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Tuesday, December 13, 2016

Mailvox: recount and consequences

Apparently the Michigan recount is pulling back the veil on Democrat vote fraud. An email from an anonymous insider.
People have known for years that Democrat-controlled Detroit has been rigging elections. During the Bush/Kerry election they had GOP poll watchers arrested and ran up 100 percent voter turnouts. It was so bad the Federal judges had to allow voter ID laws they had been blocking for years to take effect in Michigan.

The Hillary/Jill recount didn’t help Hillary, but it has hurt the Democrats' reputations and may hurt them badly going forward. The count has been stopped but the state has now ordered an audit as to how 20 Democrat-controlled locations had a lot more Hillary votes than voters.

We use drivers license scans now for a computer record poll book, so they know how many voted. The worst location had 300 Hillary votes cast by 50 voters.
As the Alt-Right is demonstrating, all that is necessary for the Right to win is to show up and fight. Who would have imagined that anyone could come up with a strategy more effective than rolling over and playing dead?

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Blogger pyrrhus December 13, 2016 11:03 AM  

Is there anything this election can't do?

Anonymous Hugh G. Gaines December 13, 2016 11:08 AM  

"Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed." -Romans 13:7

The only thing Democrats are owed is a solid kick in their collective teeth.

Anonymous Faceless December 13, 2016 11:12 AM  

I told everyone I could find, and every Trump MAGA shop rate and disgruntled Reagan Democrat out in the sticks understood, what Roosh V repeated in all his videos up to the end: We had to overperform by at least 5-10% to have a chance of scraping by with a victory. Macomb County showed up after two decades in the wilderness.

I hope this is the beginning of the end of the tyranny and corruption that is Wayne County's Democrat machine. They are the ones who gave us the horrible Jennifer Granholm, who spent more on prisons than on schools. Those bastards always manufacture votes. Snyder has done many stupid things, but he is at least not beholden to Wayne County.

Blogger haus frau December 13, 2016 11:12 AM  

I saw a video of college students explaining why voter ID laws are racist. That was some patronizing, condescending funny shit. Black and diversity team voters are too incompetent and helpless to get some form of state ID but can register to vote and get transportation to the polls with no problem. I would love for this recount to be followed up by a full voter roll audit.

Blogger Chris Lutz December 13, 2016 11:17 AM  

Typical SJW move in not understanding scripture.

First, how is submitting to valid governing authorities rolling over?

Second, the set of verses are implicit that ruling authorities have certain duties and can actually no longer be considered legitimate authorities but just thugs with guns.

Third, we legally elect our leaders. How is demanding that laws for honest voting be obeyed or created rolling over?

Yeah, let's play and it's obvious you've already lost.

Blogger tz December 13, 2016 11:21 AM  

Detroit News Article

Blogger Phelps December 13, 2016 11:21 AM  

In Romans 1-7, Paul was speaking to the Circumcised, Hebrew Christians living in Rome. He wasn't instructing gentiles. The Roman Hebrew Christians were once again not paying their taxes, and Paul was reminding them of Mark 12:13-17.

Blogger Phelps December 13, 2016 11:22 AM  

Romans 13:1-7

Anonymous BBGKB December 13, 2016 11:23 AM  

Lew Rockwell reports they found more TRUMP votes in Wisconsin, where he won. Lew also has a story about the F-35 being grounded by fog. I took some flying lessons back n the 90s I am pretty sure that most planes are capable of flying in fog.

The count has been stopped but the state has now ordered an audit as to how 20 Democrat-controlled locations had a lot more Hillary votes than voters

It would be so sweet if TRUMP put Stein up to doing this while making the democrats pay for it. Hopefully they were also watching how the money floated into Stein's account. I think the automatic protracted donations must have been Soros.

Blogger L' Aristokrato December 13, 2016 11:24 AM  

"Who would have imagined that anyone could come up with a strategy more effective than rolling over and playing dead?" - VD

Boy, you better not tell Libertarians that! Or else, they'll give you a stern talking to, about their principles.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric December 13, 2016 11:25 AM  

Faceless wrote:I hope this is the beginning of the end of the tyranny and corruption that is Wayne County's Democrat machine. They are the ones who gave us the horrible Jennifer Granholm, who spent more on prisons than on schools. Those bastards always manufacture votes. Snyder has done many stupid things, but he is at least not beholden to Wayne County.
Bah. Of all the things to complain about with regards to Granholm, that's the least of them. Wayne County has tons of criminals that SHOULD be incarcerated (or deported) and we have among the most expensive public schools in the nation with little to show for it as it is.

Anonymous Elipe December 13, 2016 11:25 AM  

It's hilarious how the same people that tell Christians to blindly submit to our government (but only when it's under Democrat control) are the same people that claim we live in a democracy. You know, rule by the people. Also known as: we be da kangz n sheeeit.

Anonymous St. Cecilia December 13, 2016 11:25 AM  

OT, but Pizza Orgasmica in SF is out of business. I posted it at Sailer's and he deleted it. Hmmmm.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric December 13, 2016 11:26 AM  

Guys, let's not engage the troll, or the whole thread'll devolve into an off-topic discussion of specific scriptural interpretations.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 13, 2016 11:29 AM  

But, but Vox conservatives have been telling us for decades how smart the leftists are, it must be true.

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 13, 2016 11:32 AM  

Elipe wrote:It's hilarious how the same people that tell Christians to blindly submit to our government (but only when it's under Democrat control) are the same people that claim we live in a democracy. You know, rule by the people. Also known as: we be da kangz n sheeeit.


What's particularly comical is this is being quoted against Vox in an article about how democrats have been breaking the voting laws. I am thinking it is they who need to submit to the government.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 13, 2016 11:33 AM  

Who, until recently, was willing to dig in and sandbag their opposition to "Let's make our world 'better?'"

The progressivist cult is just today's version of Marxism. Marxist-Leninist communism put a hundred million (or more) skulls metaphorically in a pyramid yet its zealots STILL think all it needs is "better implementation" and John Lennon's "Imagine" will result.

Perhaps what made Progressivism irresistible even on the (pseudo)right was its effective masquerade as social "engineering." Until now, there simply wasn't enough willingness to call a spade a spade, to reject Harry Potter.

A social mood mania for the ages; take a step back and wrap your mind around the fact that you've lived your life immersed in it, and you're present for its long-awaited demise.

Anonymous lightbetrayer December 13, 2016 11:33 AM  

I will attempt to find link to local story when I get home but, there was a certified, sealed official ballot box, 301 hillary votes. They opened it up. 50 ballots in it. 11 for trump.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 13, 2016 11:36 AM  

" The worst location had 300 Hillary votes cast by 50 voters."

Here is what the Detroit Free Press reported on this: "In Detroit's precinct 152, recounters found 50 ballots in a container where more than 300 votes had been logged.
State Elections Director Chris Thomas said he spoke with Detroit Elections Director Daniel Baxter, who told him that the missing ballots had been left in a bin underneath a vote tabulating machine rather than being placed in the container with the other ballots."

It could be dindu incompetence rather than intent that caused this instance.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 13, 2016 11:36 AM  

@5 Black and diversity team voters are too incompetent and helpless to get some form of state ID but can buy Colt45 or Mogan David 20/20 no problem at all.

As you say, the stupid...it burns...

Blogger Chris Mallory December 13, 2016 11:36 AM  

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/10/what-if-michigan-held-key-presidential-election/95142214/

Anonymous Faceless December 13, 2016 11:43 AM  

I haven't seen anybody suggest that we should do anything against Gov. Snyder or the legislature in Lansing, so I am baffled by the Jewish scholars come to explain to us that we need to apply Romans to the idea that the governor and the legislature can't clean up one of the cities that is inferior and subordinate to them. Lansing owns Detroit because nobody will take it off their hands. Then again - why do they appeal to words from those they curse?

If we're in a separate county, we're not subject to the Wayne County board of canvassers in the slightest. They're trying to take away the authority of our own county governments, who we best serve by guarding against any such infringement.

Drain all the swamps.

Blogger Elocutioner December 13, 2016 11:46 AM  

"Yeah, we just forgot to put all those ballots into the box that we sealed and certified that it held 300 votes." Seems legit.

Mandatory prison sentences for this crap. Intentional or incompetence, this is voter fraud.

Blogger SteelPalm December 13, 2016 11:46 AM  

@16

I'm pretty sure he is just a troll at this point.

Anywho, it's hilarious how that recount backfired for the leftists, eh?

Also, I remember how astounded I was when I learned that the Republicans had signed an agreement with the Democrats promising not to challenge their voter fraud, known as the 1982 Consent Decree.

Here is a good write-up; https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

Vox's constant refrains about what losers they are undersells it, if anything.

Blogger frigger611 December 13, 2016 11:52 AM  

Yes, the claim that it is a burden to require denizens of urban areas who live CLOSEST to the state agencies who make IDs is ridiculously vacuous. The cost is nominal, but they say it's just too much a burden and therefore racist.

Notice that to sign up for Barry's Free Health Care on his billion dollar website, one needs a computer and an internet connection. But somehow this is not a similar racist burden.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 13, 2016 11:54 AM  

350% more irony than a steady liver and spinach diet.

Petard, meet hoist.

Delicious.

Blogger kurt9 December 13, 2016 11:55 AM  

Apparently the Michigan recount is pulling back the veil on Democrat vote fraud. An email from an anonymous insider.

This is the reason why Obama opposed the recount efforts and tried to get the democrats as a whole to accept Trump's victory. You see, Obama is many things but one thing he is not is the narcissist that Hillary is. Obama is trying to save the party. Hillary is too narcissistic and self-centered to think about saving the party. its all about HER and has been her entire life. Jill Stein is your typical far-left loon, who is too personality-disordered to think coherently about things like the long term future of the democratic party.

Blogger Salt December 13, 2016 11:58 AM  

Manufacturing ballots. Well, something had to replace the cars.

Anonymous VFM #7916 December 13, 2016 11:58 AM  

Need a WH 40k meme on showing up to fight.

Blogger Earl December 13, 2016 12:00 PM  

Come on, don't fall for the obvious troll

Blogger Chiva December 13, 2016 12:03 PM  

@2 Here's a teaching by Jesus for you. Matthew 7:1-6.

Blogger Jew613 December 13, 2016 12:10 PM  

Stein leads the Green Party. Maybe she is delusional enough to believe the Greens can supplant the Democrats. I hadn't believed Hillary would go ahead with the recounts and risk exposing the Detroit & Philadelphia fraud machines.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 13, 2016 12:11 PM  

Who would have imagined that anyone could come up with a strategy more effective than rolling over and playing dead?

But playing dead works so well for the cucks' wives.

OpenID elijahrhodes December 13, 2016 12:11 PM  

I'm starting to believe Jill Stein is a Republican operative. Not only did she syphon of Hillary votes, she has fleeced liberals in the name of a recount, which has only demonstrated fraud. Clearly she's controlled opposition.

Blogger S1AL December 13, 2016 12:13 PM  

Ninja'd. I'm halfway thinking Stein is playing a much longer game than first suspected.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 13, 2016 12:14 PM  

If you could get rid of all the vote fraud, the machine tricks, the felons and illegals and dead voting, the polling officials filling in ballots in back rooms, every single fraudulent vote -- would anyone be surprised if Trump's real percentage of the vote was north of 60%?

Blogger Thucydides December 13, 2016 12:16 PM  

One thing I hope for is the Trump Administration to bring Voter registration, Voter ID and Voter rolls to the standards we have enjoyed in Canada for decades.

While it has't saved us from electing Liberal governments, at least we don't worry so much about voter fraud in the Great White North.

Anonymous Wooly Phlox December 13, 2016 12:18 PM  

The people who are the direct descendants of the Frankfort School in the 19-teens are now blaming Russia, and invoking the Red Scare.

It’s all so messed up.

Isaac Azimov could never have written this.

Truth is often stranger than fiction. Witness #pizzagate. Or Solyndra. Or Bohemian Grove.

Our world is all sorts of f'd up.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 13, 2016 12:25 PM  

22. Chris Mallory December 13, 2016 11:36 AM
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/10/what-if-michigan-held-key-presidential-election/95142214/



one CRITICAL point i keep seeing in this story:
" If even one ballot in the box doesn't match the number of voters in the pollbook, the precinct can't be subject to recount."

the ballots have ALREADY been counted.

IF
the ballots are "not eligible" for recount due to discrepancies
THEN
the ineligible ballots WILL BE KEPT IN THE VOTE TOTAL

ie - the very evidence of fraud which would disqualify a ballot is the procedural measure by which the ballot is NOT permitted to be investigated.

how do we KNOW that this is the way the Michigan system is working?

BECAUSE Hillary is NOT shedding thousands of votes due to entire boxes of ballots being disqualified from urban areas.

Michigan voter law and procedure was written TO PROTECT voter fraud.

OpenID elijahrhodes December 13, 2016 12:26 PM  

Fixing the voter fraud issue would be rather simple:

- Paper ballots only. No electronic machines.

- Ballots all have a printed mark that indicates which precinct they are being issued to. The number of ballots issued are logged, and each precinct must return exactly the number of ballots they were given.

- Voters must present an ID and proof of US citizenship.

- Each step of the process is monitored by observers provided from all parties, including the transport and handling of ballots.

- Anyone engaging in voter fraud is hit with a very stiff penalty--stiff enough to make even the most dishonest partisans think twice.

Blogger VD December 13, 2016 12:28 PM  

To A Troll

First you pretend to be Christian,
Now you feign to be a Jew.
But in the end it is one and the same,
Into the ovens with you!

Love,
The Alt-Right

Blogger WTF December 13, 2016 12:29 PM  

"...all that is necessary for the Right to win is to show up and fight. Who would have imagined that anyone could come up with a strategy more effective than rolling over and playing dead?"


Once upon a time a guy named Reagan took down the Soviet Union with that strategy.

and he also won 49 states in his re-election.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy December 13, 2016 12:33 PM  

"all that is necessary for the Right to win is to show up and fight." This is 100% correct, and don't back down.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 13, 2016 12:34 PM  

I remain skeptical of anonymous sources but if this is true in Michigan, which has elected Republicans to statewide offices, imagine what could be happening in California, much of which has no Republican presence worth mentioning.

California is still counting votes but who can assure that they are actual legitimate votes, especially since Trump has no reason to challenge anything in that state?

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot December 13, 2016 12:35 PM  

Well, obviously the Russians were loading the ballot boxes so that Killary and Kompany would be discredited ...

[snort] :-)

Blogger haus frau December 13, 2016 12:40 PM  

@9 "Who would have imagined that anyone could come up with a strategy more effective than rolling over and playing dead?" - VD

Boy, you better not tell Libertarians that! Or else, they'll give you a stern talking to, about their principles."

Especially stateless society anarcho-libertarians that lecture minarchist type libertarians about the evil pointlessness of voting. I have been assured that it's ridiculous to think the economic collapse will be made bloodier by the addition of massive numbers of welfare dependent third world immigrants and that overburdening the welfare state with said immigrants in order to collapse the whole system is a good thing. Apparently it can only and ever lead to a freer society like the peaceful collapse of the Soviet Union because everyone will see the anarcho-libertarian light.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 13, 2016 12:42 PM  

Reminds me of the scene in Erik the Viking when Erik confronts Halfdan the Black's men and they cower before him. When Halfdan asks why they aren't fighting back, one of his minions states that no one's ever fought back before because they were usually too scared to do so.

Blogger The Kurgan December 13, 2016 12:42 PM  

And jail. Lots of jail time for all involved.

Blogger William Hudson December 13, 2016 12:43 PM  

@34 Cail, I think it would be closer to 75%, but then, I am an eternal optimist.

Blogger GracieLou December 13, 2016 12:47 PM  

"I'm pretty sure he is just a troll at this point."

I think we're supposed to feel bad about ourselves. Hold on, let me check the latest edition of the victim hierarchy. Ok, looks like "Jew" has dropped to 50th position after Dakota pipeline made being "Injun" cool again. "Handicap" still looks good, as long as Down's isn't included (too fetus-y).

So I'm ok what with the epilepsy and that Ancestry DNA test where we found out the husband, adopted at birth, is only barely a European white man. That was a shock. Pretty much half Native American, no Iberian or nothing ...total casino. Explains a lot.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 13, 2016 1:01 PM  

Leftists aren't smart, but they are energized by neurosis. Rightists aren't dumb, but they are complacent and will use any excuse to do nothing (except complain).

Blogger Sagramore December 13, 2016 1:03 PM  

All is fair in love, war, and politics.

But the greatest of these is love.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 13, 2016 1:06 PM  

@46 - Nah. Crucifixions and impalement are cheaper and more worthy of pay-per-view.

Blogger Gordon December 13, 2016 1:07 PM  

St. Cecilia wrote:OT, but Pizza Orgasmica in SF is out of business. I posted it at Sailer's and he deleted it. Hmmmm.I ate there, once. It was good, but no emissions followed.

Blogger Gordon December 13, 2016 1:21 PM  

Having worked as an election judge for 30 years, the last few in a very vibrant precinct, I can say that in some parts of Minneapolis, the fraud is wide and deep. I watched it happen and could do nothing, because all they had to do was affirm that they were legal voters. Bingo, given a ballot, ballot goes into counter, irreversible.

Anonymous vfm #0202 December 13, 2016 1:49 PM  

I need a new sarcometer. My old one has developed a Cerenkov glow.

Blogger horsewithnonick December 13, 2016 1:59 PM  

Still better poetry than Audre Lorde's dreck.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 13, 2016 2:34 PM  

"Michigan voter law and procedure was written TO PROTECT voter fraud"

That's what I thought originally, too. But to be fair to the Michigan legislature, I suspect the original intent was that the totals are supposed to be verified/ double checked on the day of the original count, so that any discrepancies are taken as evidence of ballot tampering AFTER the original count.

If the original certification is done properly, this actually makes sense. Of course, if one party completely controls an area. it also creates a perverse incentive to deliberately screw up the initial verification, even if fraud is carried out by means that wouldn't ordinarily create a mismatch between the actual number of ballots and the total logged.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 13, 2016 2:42 PM  

I'm sure CA is fine. Everyone knows that Mexicans have a long tradition of honest government.

More seriously, Detroit has even fewer Republicans than California. Looks like the state legislature just passed a voter ID law, though I'm not sure how much good that will do with the same people checking ID's as were counting votes.

Blogger Matthew December 13, 2016 3:27 PM  

bob, you're just storing up a world of hurt for yourself.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 13, 2016 3:30 PM  

56. Francis Parker Yockey December 13, 2016 2:34 PM
so that any discrepancies are taken as evidence of ballot tampering AFTER the original count.



that's not the issue.

the issue is that ONCE discrepancies have been found THEN they need to be investigated to identify why they are happening and to find which specific votes are invalid.

they are simply marking entire boxes of votes as not eligible for recount.

and,
THE CRITICAL THING,
i'm not hearing any news about Michigans vote totals being significantly REDUCED.

remember, according to their own reporting, most of the discrepancies are IN DETROIT. which would have gone heavily Demoncrat.

ballot boxes are being "invalidated" by a single stray ballot, and we know that individual ballot boxes contain several hundreds of ballots, at a minimum
"In Detroit's precinct 152, recounters found 50 ballots in a container where more than 300 votes had been logged."

this means that
IF all votes in invalid boxes are being removed from the count
THEN Hillary's Michigan total should be plummeting by the thousands, possibly by tens of thousands.

Donald's should as well but, you know, competency seems to be one of those White Privilege things.

they are not, Hillary is actually reported as GAINING votes.

and this has nothing to do with voting machines or computers, this is a problem exclusively with the paper ballots AND THE PROCEDURES FOR DEALING WITH THEM and would exist regardless of the method of generating those paper ballots.


a further weakness in this system IF the entire box of votes actually got disqualified from the election total:
send a Demoncrat election operative around to Republican heavy areas and simply, oops, drop an extra ballot into each box.

now, many thousands of Republican ballots would be disqualified through no fault of the uninvolved election staff.

right now this isn't an issue, i'm just pointing out the absurd stupidity ( if it wasn't intentional ) of the current situation.

if it was intentional it's still absurdly stupid, it's just that it then becomes Republican stupidity for allowing this system to exist for 50 years.


and, oh gosh, look at that, most Michigan recount law comes subsequent to TWO recount elections which were won by a ... wait for it ... Demoncrat.

"Rozell said that most of the state's election code was adopted in the 1950s after two gubernatorial races were recounted. Gov. G. Mennen (Soapy) Williams retained his office in 1950 and 1952 after recounts. The 1950 recount turned what had been a narrow loss to a win for Williams."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Mennen_Williams

Blogger Feather Blade December 13, 2016 4:40 PM  

haus frau wrote:I saw a video of college students explaining why voter ID laws are racist. That was some patronizing, condescending funny shit. Black and diversity team voters are too incompetent and helpless to get some form of state ID but can register to vote and get transportation to the polls with no problem.

I saw a video like that where (after they talked to the white college students) they asked the same questions of actual blacks in the city. Every single one of them knew where to get ID, had ID already, and were flabbergasted that anyone could believe that they wouldn't be able to get ID.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 13, 2016 5:18 PM  

bkm @59: "IF all votes in invalid boxes are being removed from the count
THEN Hillary's Michigan total should be plummeting by the thousands, possibly by tens of thousands.
"


Incorrect assumption in your IF -- they aren't being removed from the total count, they are only being rejected from the subsequent RE-count. Hence, the original numbers for those precincts stand as first reported.

Hillary's gains came from those precincts where the recount actually did proceed.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 13, 2016 5:36 PM  

61. WaterBoy December 13, 2016 5:18 PM
Hence, the original numbers for those precincts stand as first reported.



yes, that was my original point:
the very evidence which indicates vote tampering triggers procedural systems WHICH PREVENT THE VOTES FROM BEING INVESTIGATED AND REMOVED FROM THE COUNT.

that's fucking absurd.

and has nothing to do with computers or Russian hacking.

hey, yo, i've got a box of 5000 ballots which indicates that 4998 of them went for Hillary. one of the Trump ones doesn't match up with the voter roll though and there are only 2500 voters registered in the district.

put them back in storage, don't look at any of them, keep them in the original count, it's against the law to question any of these votes in a recount!

explain how this makes any sense ... in a way that doesn't make you look like a complete fucking retard.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 13, 2016 5:45 PM  

bkm @62: "that's fucking absurd."

Agreed. But that's not the point to which I was responding:

"and, THE CRITICAL THING,i'm not hearing any news about Michigans vote totals being significantly REDUCED.
.
.
.
IF all votes in invalid boxes are being removed from the count
THEN Hillary's Michigan total should be plummeting by the thousands, possibly by tens of thousands.
"


That's the incorrect assumption -- you WOULDN'T hear about vote totals dropping significantly, because under current rules THEY AREN'T.

IS ≠ OUGHT

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 13, 2016 5:55 PM  

I'll say it again - you can only get lazy Section8ers and lazy, overweight Democrats to get out of their hovels twice a year. Anything after December 1st (beginning of Winter Vacation) is going to be too much for them.

Also, no surprise on Michigan voter fraud. I mentioned to someone that if you did the math between the night of Nov. 8, when Michigan was reporting at 99% and God Emperor was winning by about 150k, and the morning of Nov. 9, when Hillary magically got an extra 140k votes. Amazing!

Except, the math doesn't fit. For even 100k to be 1%, there would need to be 10 million registered voters in Michigan, which has a population of about 9 million. Hence, the 37% average extra turnout.

Some of the districts (Washtenaw, Wayne, Oakland, Genessee, Lansing, Marquette, Kalamazoo) all had this interesting population increase where the number of voters magically hovered around their total populations.

My estimate was about 500k votes were Demofraud in Michigan.

Blogger horsewithnonick December 13, 2016 6:52 PM  

That's the perverse thing about the election law: invalid ballot boxes that aren't explained or otherwise reconciled can't be recounted, and must therefore be accepted as-is. Brilliant, right?

Blogger horsewithnonick December 13, 2016 7:00 PM  

The laws regarding recounts are meant to keep the RECOUNT honest, by, for example, preventing ballot-stuffing between the original tally and the recount. Recounts aren't really meant to uncover or correct outright fraud in the original election.

Blogger Reed Schrichte December 13, 2016 9:26 PM  

How sad does your life have to be when Russia is your only friend and your primary active ally?

Blogger Lazarus December 13, 2016 9:39 PM  

Reed Schrichte wrote:How sad does your life have to be when Russia is your only friend and your primary active ally?

What previous decade have you just arrived from? You know it is 2017 now, yes?

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 13, 2016 10:13 PM  

how sad does your life have to be when your candidate has been selling American nuclear assets and technology to Communist nations for literally decades?

and now you pretend to believe her when she claims that Putin, to whom she directly sold USA domestic uranium assets, is her enemy?

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 13, 2016 10:25 PM  

Ah, Reed, welcome comrade!

We hear you Americans have great fear of animals such as bears and tigers. That only the forest land you know is park in middle of New York. That Amerikan men fear businessman who makes buildings. So sad.

Now see why so many of the women become the men in America, because men have left.

Blogger bob kek mando: i can't be racist. why, some of my best friends are ((( Literally Hitler ))). { Vox Gayness intensifies } December 13, 2016 11:21 PM  

63. WaterBoy December 13, 2016 5:45 PM
That's the incorrect assumption -- you WOULDN'T hear about vote totals dropping significantly, because under current rules THEY AREN'T.



which is what my posts have been proving.

here, i'd like you to think about this very slowly:
Michigan has rules which prevent the counts from being amended IF discrepancies are found in the ballot boxes.

we are told that the assumption is that the ballot boxes have been tampered with if they don't exactly match the box log.

WHY in the ever living FUCK would you tamper with votes which, according the rules, can NEVER be re/counted?

face it: the entire Michigan election system is a criminal organization from top to bottom, specifically designed to permit voter fraud.

Blogger John M December 13, 2016 11:29 PM  

Am I the only one who is convinced that Jill Stein is a closet Trump supporter who is demanding the recounts just to make the Democrats look bad? Can't be that she didn't realize how all these recounts would end up looking like.

Blogger John M December 13, 2016 11:30 PM  

Am I the only one who is convinced that Jill Stein is a closet Trump supporter who is demanding the recounts just to make the Democrats look bad? Can't be that she didn't realize how all these recounts would end up looking like.

Blogger chris December 13, 2016 11:40 PM  

Use this Detroit vote fraud to push the meme that the Democrats are "The bad guys". And if you support them,, "you're the bad guys too." Might be super effective against the virtue signallers who like to think themselves so moral for voting left/Democrats/Hillary. It would destroy their ego to conceive of themselves as "the bad guys" or "the villains".

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 14, 2016 2:49 AM  

Reed Schrichte wrote:How sad does your life have to be when Russia is your only friend and your primary active ally?

The trolls are disappoint. Previously their nonsense at least conformed to some twisted logic of self-hatred; nowadays they can't even make one phrase make sense. They can't even be bothered to point out their hand-fed assumptions to their potential audience.

Reed Schrichte: 1/10. Find another pastime. (the "1" is for at least keeping the brain fart nice and short)

Blogger heyjames4 December 14, 2016 8:04 PM  

Is the Green party subject to the 1982 consent agreement? Could Ms. Steins organization file suit against corrupt wards and pollworkers nationwide?

Anonymous Dick Hertz December 14, 2016 9:18 PM  

@74
I've been trying that so far in various online fora, and gotten reactions from "that's fake news, all lies, LIES" to "racist Republicans illegally suppress ten votes for every one the Democrats 'steal,' actually they're just trying to get even for hundreds of years of oppression," etc. The latter is so bizarre that I am not sure any response I can formulate could be more damning than the shameless admission that they don't really care about the law or about honest vote counts so long as they win.

Anonymous Lawyer Guy December 15, 2016 11:00 AM  

It's getting interesting, the State SOS is going forward with the audit, and the story for the misvoting is changing. The first one was that the machines were bad and Detroit needs millions to replace them all, that has grown to training failures for the poll workers.

It is unclear if they also will keep trying to get money for new machines.

Chris Thomas the state elections director, and was appointed by a Democratic SoS. The state elections board is eqaully split GOP and Dem. Thomas is an Obama appointee to the Federal Election Administration Committee. That is why the SoS is handling the recount. Thomas states there were minor accidents caused by training failures and machine issues.

Local TV is trying to gloss over the story, summary reporting with minimizing quotes from Chris Thomas. The right wing paper (News) has run some stories, but it actually owned by the left sided paper (Free Press), and the Freep has already ordered the News' editorial staff downsized.

The single worst location had 300 votes recorded for 50 ballots. The current story proffered is that the other ballots were left in the machine by mistake and everything will be cleared up.

I think this is the tipping point for the story. If the Dem party can show ballot numbers paired with ID card scans in the poll book, and they have the removed ballot numbers from the ballots that will turn up next week, they can put the story away with promises of doing better.

Otherwise it will be Cold in the D

Anonymous Lawyer Guy December 16, 2016 1:30 PM  

5 poll books ended up disappearing. That means in five of the locations there is no way to how many voters actually went to the location and signed in.

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