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Wednesday, December 07, 2016

Not all windows are open

A reader asks about the possibility of disrupting YouTube:
I just finished Stefan's podcast with you about Capitalism. The thing that really struck me is that one always has to be on the lookout for opportunities, something my dad always told me, but you resurfaced. And the example that struck me was Gab. In hindsight, it was an obvious decision. Everything lined up perfectly for its launch.

Which brings me to Youtube. A few months ago they launched their Youtube Heroes program, which is nothing more than an attempt to censor wrong groupthink under the guise of "preventing harassment". However, alt-teching Youtube would have a much larger capital requirement than Infogalactic or Gab. I could easily see burning through $20k in hosting fees per month with no end in sight. So I was wondering:
  1. What is your opinion on such an endeavor?
  2. Technically its not too difficult, but without external VC, what would be a valid startup strategy?
  3. What happens when the SJW police deem it to be "Youtube for racists" and advertisers are bullied to pull out?
  4. From the financing side via donations do you see a donation model working with the much larger capital requirements?
I know that Vid.me made some passing comments on freedom of speech after Heroes was launched. However several high-profile accounts were suspended or shutdown this week for wrongthink. And they have yet to jump on such an opportunity.
 In answer to his questions:
  1. I think disrupting YouTube is biting off more than the Alt-Tech community can presently chew.
  2. Backers with deep pockets. This is the sort of thing that the rich Republicans who finance think tanks and political action committees should be doing, but they're not, because they fail to understand how technology and culture drive politics. For the money that was wasted on Jeb Bush's futile campaign alone, both YouTube and Facebook could have been disrupted. The reason the Right has been losing the culture war for decades is because it has been stubbornly determined to fight the Vietnam War with WWI tactics.
  3. Bully right back. Go after the competitors advertisers; it's not as if they aren't supporting pedophilia and a whole host of dyscivic and even dyscivilizational sins considerably worse than "racism". Concerns about "racism" are so 1980s, they're not even remotely relevant to a multiethnic, multicultural, multireligious society now engaged in bare knuckles identity politics.
  4. No. It's a chicken or the egg situation. Like VC, donations tend to flow most freely when they are totally unnecessary. For example, Infogalactic's donations presently run about 1/2500 that of Wikipedia. We'll beat them anyhow, thanks to the Original Galaxians, the Techstars, and the Burn Unit, but it's a bit ironic that people are least inclined to donate when the Alt-Tech organizations need it most. Once Gab and Infogalactic have successfully disrupted Twitter and Wikipedia, that will be the time bigger prey can be targeted, because more people will believe it to be possible.
Timing is everything. It's the right time to disrupt Twitter. It's the right time to disrupt Wikipedia. It's too soon to disrupt YouTube or Facebook. They're simply too big and insufficiently vulnerable to credibly take on at the moment. But, it's true, their censorious actions tend to indicate that they will be vulnerable to an alt-teching in the future.

And, of course, I would be remiss if I failed out to remind you that you, too, can be a part of the Great Disrupting by the Alt-Tech by subscribing or donating to Infogalactic. I'm informed that Infogalactic is currently at 8.5 percent of the Phase Two goal, and 15 percent of the inital goal of a 1000-strong Burn Unit. The good news is that the Techstars are getting close on the phase one speedups that Infogalactic needs to become functionally competitive with Wikipedia.

You know how everyone says "someone ought to do something?" Well, the Infogalactic team is doing just that. Be a part of it.

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53 Comments:

Blogger JACIII December 07, 2016 6:02 AM  

"It's too soon to disrupt YouTube or Facebook."

Preach. Mommy bloggers have momentum. And not just from the inertia of their big asses.

Blogger SteelPalm December 07, 2016 6:13 AM  

I hate FB with a passion, and after getting numerous 30-day bans there, they finally put my account in permanent limbo when I switched to a name of "Deplorable X", which they claimed was not a real name. (Neither was my original moniker...)

But Youtube?

As someone who makes very right-wing videos and comments there, it's quite fair at present. That may change, but I haven't seen anything egregious yet.

The single worst example I can think of is Colin Flaherty's (the "Don't Make the Black Kids Angry" and "White Girl Bleed a Lot" guy) original channel being shut down.

Still, they're light-years away from the den of SJW iniquity that Wikipedia, Facebook, and Twitter are.

Blogger Shimshon December 07, 2016 6:15 AM  

Middle-Out, dude.

Blogger Jim Carroll December 07, 2016 7:09 AM  

Alt-tech youtube: see minds.com

Blogger Timmy3 December 07, 2016 7:23 AM  

Disrupting Youtube and Facebook would seem to be a good idea for a losing tech company. I thinking of Microsoft, but it failed from one endeavor to another and can't seem to get anything right. Tech requires so much investment and effort that I'm not sure it can be done merely as a platform for alt right. It has to appeal to everyone and be profitable and privately owned.

Blogger chris December 07, 2016 7:24 AM  

Did you know that the Russian wikipedia has an article on Cultural Marxism, yet the English wikipedia does not? Proof of contradiction by the moderators that deleted the English version?

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BC

Anonymous DeplorableCodeMonkey December 07, 2016 8:01 AM  

To add to what Vox said...

Let's say Gab created "GabTube" to do precisely this and match Youtube feature for feature at the MVP (minimum viable product) stage. The moment GabTube lets you embed videos onto Facebook or Twitter, $20k/month on bandwidth alone becomes a conservative estimate. If a 20MB MP4 video stream goes viral and gets only 1,000 views that is about 19GB of bandwidth. If it gets 50k views, their bandwidth bill just for that one video is going to get jacked up really high.

YouTube is able to pull this off because they're part of Google, have deep relationships with content delivery networks, peering agreements and so much name recognition that they even have T-Mobile white listing them on preferential data delivery on their unlimited data plans.

Monetizing that content requires good video ads. The institutions that tend to put those out are easily susceptible to SJW bullying and unlike Gab or Breitbart, the loss of a few good advertisers could be catastrophic in terms of the revenue-to-resource ratio.

One thing that YouTube is really weak on, though, is their machine learning work on applying ads to content. There have been many times where my kids (4 and under) were watching shows that were appropriate for preschoolers and a TOTALLY inappropriate ad for that demographic like a horror movie or something that was blatantly sexual in advertisement came up. There is probably an opening to do some epic trolling there.

If you want a more anti-fragile GabTube type site, my suggestion would be to make one where people are happy to buy content. Let them transfer money into a credit account using a debit card ACH transaction so the cost to transfer is cheap. Then let them throw money at any video they want. Take 30-40% of the creator's revenue for the site, but make it clear to the creators that as long as the content is legal you will stay out of it and not censor them. That would probably win over a lot of Vine and YouTube creators quickly.

You could also work on creating a new advertising paradigm where ads are more about directly selling the product than just showing it off and saying "go find it at these stores."

Blogger Gareth December 07, 2016 8:07 AM  

Vox, I just subscribed. THANK YOU for all you do for the west. I've been thinking about joining the VFM for what must be years now, and I believe it's time to take the plunge. May I earn the honour of signing up?

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 07, 2016 8:13 AM  

It's too soon to worry about Youtube.

Yes, the Alt Right is going to get shut out of YouTube eventually but not in the near term.

The good news is that the start up cost of video is going to get cheaper with time. An alternative will pop right up as soon as there is a market to support it.

So lets ask ourselves the big question. What does the Alt Right want out of a YouTube clone?

A platform for our views?

A source of Alt Right news?

A venue for Alt Right Entertainment?

Alt Right Amusing Cat Videos?

I guess what I'm saying is you shouldn't even worry about putting the cart before the horse if you don't even know why you need the cart in the first place.

Blogger Ken Prescott December 07, 2016 8:14 AM  

Successfully disrupting Twitter and Wikipedia may make disrupting YouTube and Facebook unnecessary. Deterrence doesn't require much real action, just a credible threat of same.

Blogger SouthRon December 07, 2016 8:17 AM  

The money required for the bandwidth alone makes this a non-starter. The infrastructure and delivery make that look like nothing. I'd detail it by way of explanation bit it's under NDA.

You would have a much better chance of replacing the Google search engine itself.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 07, 2016 8:24 AM  

Successfully disrupting Twitter and Wikipedia may make disrupting YouTube and Facebook unnecessary. Deterrence doesn't require much real action, just a credible threat of same.

A valuable insight, Ken. I think we're already seeing that effect in Trump's proposed policies even before he has taken office.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 07, 2016 8:33 AM  

I prefer Full30 to Youtube for my gun video delivery. So it is being done on some level

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2016 8:37 AM  

> The money required for the bandwidth alone makes this a non-starter. The infrastructure and delivery make that look like nothing.

The bandwidth is a recurring cost. The infrastructure is a one time cost (though probably spread over time, and the upkeep is non-negligible). I'm not sure what you mean by delivery in this context.

Youtube is part of the Google behemoth. As such, while they are SJW infested, they are not yet fully converged. And as Ken notes the examples provided by Twitter and Wikipedia may convince them it's not a good idea to go further in that direction.

Facebook is probably a lost cause, but I'm not certain they're essential to replace.

Blogger Beowulf the Geat December 07, 2016 8:47 AM  

Thank you for your work on Infogalactic, its a great resource. Donated.

Blogger ZaijiaN December 07, 2016 9:12 AM  

Given the way that Reddit has dispensed with any pretense of nonpartisanship, I think they could be the next target of opportunity for alt-tech.

Granted, there is currently the wild-west of 4chan, but as we've seen it's either too wild or too spammable, and has a low signal-noise ratio. However, there are more than a handful of competitors in this space, but none come to mind that specifically emphasize a lack of censorship;

Bandwidth is not worrisome - most of it is text, and images can be hosted on a 3rd-party like imgur.

The design is well understood and doesn't pose any significant challenges.

The challenge is in the sale - is Reddit sufficiently disgraced enough that a free-speech challenger can gain a foothold?

Blogger bearspaw December 07, 2016 9:22 AM  

Alt-tech's hand may be forced sooner than later. Power to censor recently changed hands with sites like Infowars claiming they are on a hit list by the new PTB. If true, many sites will face disruption.

Blogger plishman December 07, 2016 9:35 AM  

You only need to provide alternative coverage for youtube for videos they refuse to host. So you can write an addon for the browser which 'mashes-in' videos from alt-vid.com (or wherever) to your youtube feed and search results.

That way, you can ramp up your alt youtube provision slowly, rather than having to do it all at once.

Mashing in twitter with gab.ai, and facebook with seen.life, will was the transition for people looking to switch to the alternative platforms.

I've had an early go at this with a similar idea, disqus-everything, an addon for Firefox which mashes in a disqus comments thread on pages which don't have them, or have had them removed - as the daily telegraph did.

If you want to try it, you can install it at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/disqus-everything/ - no spam, ads or malware guaranteed (the code is viewable by anyone).

Blogger plishman December 07, 2016 9:37 AM  

Will was? Wtf. Will aid. Windows phone / fat finger strikes again...

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 10:14 AM  

I like to disrupt and cause emotional and mental pain to the mainstream sometimes but my problem in the past was is I get too into it, and sometimes I hurt them too much and I start feeling guilty, and I also I lose control of my own life. I have to figure out a way to fit in disrupting and bothering them, without hurting them too bad such that I feel guilty, and without losing control of my own life.

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 10:22 AM  

but truth be told I should probably just leave them alone for my own good and their own good

Blogger Esmar Tuek December 07, 2016 10:26 AM  

agree with Ken, the combination of IG & Gab will ensure a course correction for YouTube et al.

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 10:29 AM  

re 21: but the problem with that, they inevitably take cheap shots and they always draw me back in with their dirty honorless ways, so its kind of a never ending war bc I refuse to let them get away with anything. not a single thing will they get away with while im on the earth

Anonymous Revan December 07, 2016 10:35 AM  

I teach history at a public school and I recently had our tech guy install the browser add-on to redirect wiki pages to Infogalactic pages. Thank you for the great work that you all do, we appreciate it!

Anonymous serious but morphing into humor , maybe December 07, 2016 10:38 AM  

re 23: but then I think fatigue becomes more and more of a problem for me, I don't have the energy I used to I will likely just have to leave them alone, but you see, its not that I am choosing to -not be there eternal enemy-, I would if I could, but I am too tired

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 10:42 AM  

re 25: but then reason rears its reasonable head again, and I think, let me just leave them alone and shut up

Blogger Eric Slate December 07, 2016 10:42 AM  

Minds.com is a Facebook YouTube hybrid whose creators are focused on free speech. Many of the YouTube sceptic community (like Sargon of Akkad and Computing forever) are currently migrating their fanbase over to that platform.

Blogger Jonathan Bennett December 07, 2016 10:48 AM  

I present for your consideration, www.full30.com. There are quite a few gun guys making videos on Youtube, and they were having problems a couple years ago. Several of them are hedging their bets by also uploading to full30.com, a youtube alternative that is just for gun related content. I don't know much about their funding or business model, but it's an interesting example of the possibilities.

Blogger Zundfolge December 07, 2016 10:52 AM  

Its too soon to think about taking down Facebook and YouTube.

Once they start pissing off the normies, THEN they'll be ripe for destruction.

So give it a year.

Blogger Student in Blue December 07, 2016 10:56 AM  

@16. ZaijiaN
Granted, there is currently the wild-west of 4chan, but as we've seen it's either too wild or too spammable, and has a low signal-noise ratio.

4chan isn't even the wild west anymore, and hasn't been for years. Plus, unless that broke Japanese owner changed janitors and mods from moot's time in power, it's still infected at the top by SJWs and can be controlled from the top.

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 11:02 AM  

re 25: that's nonsense, whats closer to the truth maybe, is that I wouldn't mind being their friend, but its just that I feel like such an ass for all the things I have said for the past 11 years, I would have trouble looking people in the eye.... peace

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 11:09 AM  

re 31: in summary there is a commercial out now that I think best describes my relationship to the mainsteam,..... I forget what the product is, but at the end of it this person dives into multiple feet of snow and all you see sticking out is his thumbs up hand signal as if to say, -its all good*, but I just cant /wont show my face -

*at least from my perspective

Blogger The Other Robot December 07, 2016 11:29 AM  

At what point, though, will Google/YouTube decide they want to eliminate the so-called #FakeNews channels like Mark Dice, though?

I guess we have to wait and see.

Anonymous Viking December 07, 2016 11:31 AM  

It may not be time yet to sail against Youtube and Facebook but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be building the boats.

Today, Twitter and Wikipedia.
Tomorrow, Youtube and Facebook.
Someday, Google and Amazon.

It can be done.

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 11:57 AM  

re 23: its wrong for me to characterize their ways as -dirty and honorless- shame on me for that any many other things,... they take a few cheap shots once in a while maybe, but I have taken a few cheap shots too, like today (not my best day so far)... maybe when you attain a certain level of stature you earn the right to take some cheap shots and I just have to live with that

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 07, 2016 12:00 PM  

Alternatives exist for YouTube, they just aren't used because moving platforms bleeds audience. At this point I'm more worried about the physical infrastructure of the internet, hubs and switches and whatnot. Our main defense has been that technology is low status, but this stereotype won't afflict the gen x upper class.

Anonymous serious December 07, 2016 12:06 PM  

but you see, its not that I am choosing to -not be there eternal enemy-, I would if I could, but I am too tired, God, I am such a dick sometimes,

anyway, the good news is that I will be extra nice to everyone for a while now to make up for it

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 07, 2016 12:19 PM  

I'm quite in favor of destroying all big tech, including Google, Apple and Microsoft. All are thoroughly converged. Their owners are genocidal SJWs. Don't fall into the error that the system is not rigged or that the SJWs who inhabit these places are going to play by anything resembling honorable rules though. As SJWs, their behavior is completely predictable.

For example, even a thoroughly cucked site like Repukin' Rim-Job's laughably named Free Republic has faced repeated threats of legal action for copyright infringement for quoting stories from the (((gaslight media))) such as the Carlos Slim Blog. Really old stories from before 1978 are subject to copyright protection for 95 years from publication, while those after 1977 are protected for life plus 70 years of the last surviving contributor.

To give another example, Google and YouTube (being owned by goodthinkers) really don't have to abide by copyright laws. Any moron can upload any recording (and nearly all sound recordings are potentially under copyright in the United States until 2067 - even wax cylinder recordings from the 1890s) and nothing is taken down unless a complaint is filed in writing to Google's copyright office. Only parties with standing (copyright owners) are eligible to file such complaints. You think you can open up an alternative to Google and enjoy similar de-facto immunity?

Those connected with the counterfeiting cartel really don't have to worry very much about making a profit, while those not connected it will have a much harder time. Along with building the boats, we need to think of ways to Cloward-Piven them. Insist that Google only hire dindu programmers, for example. The more their system becomes dysfunctional, the more the herds will be looking for a better alternative. Consider who owns the backbone too. As a number of of have mentioned before, this war is just getting started. It's a serious error to think the enemy is defeated.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 07, 2016 12:27 PM  

The great thing about SJW convergence: if a leftist organization is too strong to take down now, just go do something else until it's weakened itself enough.

Blogger Sevron December 07, 2016 1:43 PM  

Donated. It's a great cause and the first serious contender that can knock Wikipedia out.

Anonymous Kryst the Conqueror December 07, 2016 2:00 PM  

Fagbook deleted me in early 2009.



The fact yall are still talking about it, how you "despise" it...but yall are still fawking on it.

Fawking losers.


Anyone in the alt-right that is encouraging our minds and bodies to sit at home in a basement on socialszz mediaazz is a fawking loser also.


Anyone reading 4chan is a fawking loser. Anyone reading 4chan over the age of 21? Please stay the fuck away from my children, their mind, and go back to your basement hovel. Self professed "leaders" that read 4chan? LOLOLOLZOLZOLZOL why not just tell us all how furious you masturbate to child porn nightly?


The alt-right is sperging out of tech. Instead of beating twatter into submission, yall let them off the mat. What, so you can virtue signal in your own private empty rooms together?

If I didn't know that whole operation was just a cheap shatty chance at shekels and not actual shivving of silicon valley et all...


Yall can fight for shekels on the intereeweeewbzz. Meanwhile the (((left))) is amazed you are letting them off the mat. (((They))) are all laughing at you sperg, and lose sight of the big picture. (((They))) will just shut the whole thing off. Can't fight a war on your phone screen, sorry to inform yall. Time wasted on socialzlzlzl meddiaizzz is time that should be spent at a gym, running around our neighborhoods with others, reading classical literature, doing multiplication tables, solving long division, learning how to do some woodshop, planting food, change your oil, learn a trade....etc, etc..

Sitting on sociacllzz meddiazazz is not winning, and it is not helping western civilization.


Some of us are actually into fucking winning. Some of us went to jail, and some died for this 2016 election. I don't expect a bunch of 4chan socialzlzlz medaiziziz idiots to understand.




p.s....Christianity does increase IQ.
Look at the jewbastard/mor_ons you know. I happen to know a dude who claims to be both. As Cail mentioned upthread- there is such a thing as intellectual darkness. These people live in the darkness. All those jewbastards/mor_ons, the methnazis, the muh germanic nordicists, and all the others in between- the second they drop the bullshieet and pick up the true cross (the one i got on my back motherfcukers), the light washes away their darkness and clarity begins. That clarity increases their IQ instantly. So many jewbastards/mor_ons and other idiots are running around confused. Many are even blinded. But the light changes all that. I've seen the clarity bring change for the better in all cases.



-that one recruit barry's dark army lost out on in 2010...

Blogger Dan Wolfgang December 07, 2016 2:25 PM  

I disagree that disrupting YouTube would be too hard for us to do. Plenty of alternatives exist, such as FunnyJunk and Mixtape.moe and Endchan. All we have to do is wait for YouTube to pull another video for worngthink, then upload it to one of the alternatives as an Exclusive. The Streisand Effect will help promote the site, eventually helping it to overtake YouTube.

Blogger Martin December 07, 2016 2:50 PM  

This may still be a bit big, but not as big as most people think. To pull off a Youtube competitor, there are three chief costs: Transcoding, Storage, and Bandwidth.

Transcoding is CPU intensive, and for a large site to be efficient it requires massive server farms, and lots of automation. In other words - megabucks.

But it occurs to me that this problem can be distributed using the same computation model that seti@home invented: Distributing discrete work units to a network of volunteer peer nodes. Does a distributed encoding system like this currently exist? Not yet. But the encoding technology is all open source (ffmpeg and others). I see no technical road blocks for this happening.

The second issue is the cost of storage. P2P distribution of video is difficult, but not impossible. But it's not fast, and I don't see it ever getting fast. There is no way around this one, but storage prices are dropping constantly.

The third issue is bandwidth, which is similar to the storage problem in that if there were a feasible and fast P2P system, this problem would be solved as well.

Blogger Matthew Davis December 07, 2016 4:12 PM  

I have two thought and a question.

1. I suspect that there are quite a few people already in gab taking advantage of what seems to be a mostly conservative user base. Some are just looking to snatch a large number of followers to promote their brand, but there are also going to be people trying to disrupt the site by baiting followers to upvote content that the MSM will use as evidence that Gab is some kind of racist hell hole.

2. The only way that Infogalactic is going to become anything more than a Wikipedia fork is if academia can be drawn to it.

My question is, how can I help Infogalactic succeed if I cannot afford to donate?

( On an unrelated note, brace yourselves for the left to begin bringing up the fact that Hitler was made Time's "Person of the Year" )

Blogger Brook Harty December 07, 2016 6:48 PM  

I've been thinking about this much in the last year. Looking for content seems to be hidden from the top suggested channels. Alternate media via youtube and podcasts are forming their own networks. Compoundmedia.com shows like (The Gavin McInnes Show, Anthony Cumia) and Louder With Crowder joining crtv.com (Formerly Mark Levin TV).

Youtube goes out of its way to hide content from right wing, and you have to actually know who you want to watch. Google filters its guide to push TYT while hiding PragerU, Peter Schiff, Milo, Sargon, Rebel Media, Aaron Clarey, etc.

I'd say the infrastructure already exists what doesn't exist is the directory for people to FIND the content. Just need to use a site like Vimeo, Veoh, Dailymotion from your personal web site.

Now if someone would design a directory for conservative content including premium content, instead of letting the left leaning facebook/google actively fight against it. Better happen soon, Google will just start removing search results because "fake news".

Evn Google news is sorely lacking. It pushes washington post and cnn as the top results. Google play newsstand only offers 2 conservative magazines, National Review and The Weekly Standard.

Blogger VD December 07, 2016 7:24 PM  

I suspect that there are quite a few people already in gab taking advantage of what seems to be a mostly conservative user base. Some are just looking to snatch a large number of followers to promote their brand, but there are also going to be people trying to disrupt the site by baiting followers to upvote content that the MSM will use as evidence that Gab is some kind of racist hell hole.

Leave the strategic level to the strategists. Settle down and stop worrying about nothing.

The only way that Infogalactic is going to become anything more than a Wikipedia fork is if academia can be drawn to it.

Again, leave the strategy to the strategists. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

My question is, how can I help Infogalactic succeed if I cannot afford to donate?

Become an active editor and edit just two pages every day. That would be extremely helpful.

Anonymous #5454 December 07, 2016 7:28 PM  

I noticed dramatic improvement in speed today on InfoGalactic

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2016 7:29 PM  

@49 Matthew Davis
My question is, how can I help Infogalactic succeed if I cannot afford to donate?
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Tweet it, facebook it, advertise it on social media.
I got a tweet I send out every so often on twitter, something like this :

Join alt-tech, evade the censors:
Gab > Twitter
Infogalactic > Wikipedia
Brave > IE, FFox, Chrome
Voat > Reddit

Just send out something like this and you will be surprised how many people retweet it.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 07, 2016 7:31 PM  

@50 Brook Harty

duckduckgo > Google search

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 08, 2016 12:47 AM  

@serious
I'm pretty sure Vox banned you under the name mature craig.
Now fuck off, no one wants your emotional incontinence.

Anonymous RabidRatel December 08, 2016 1:19 AM  

Martin wrote:But it occurs to me that this problem can be distributed using the same computation model that seti@home invented: Distributing discrete work units to a network of volunteer peer nodes. Does a distributed encoding system like this currently exist? Not yet. But the encoding technology is all open source (ffmpeg and others). I see no technical road blocks for this happening.

The second issue is the cost of storage. P2P distribution of video is difficult, but not impossible. But it's not fast, and I don't see it ever getting fast. There is no way around this one, but storage prices are dropping constantly.

The third issue is bandwidth, which is similar to the storage problem in that if there were a feasible and fast P2P system, this problem would be solved as well.


A couple of thoughts: Raspberry Pi competitors are now getting cheap enough that building a server from a stack of them is very feasible, and the technology is quite mature. If someone were to publish a how-to for the adventurous, you can have quite a lot of cheap computing power on your hands.

One good thing, as technology improves, is that bandwidth is becoming the lesser problem. It is getting cheap and fast. So volunteers with extra bandwidth can help a lot.

This rant should not be seen as volunteering to do this all on my own. I will need people with knowledge of setting up clusters and Arm processors, as well as generous donations of Orange Pi's to volunteer.

Blogger VD December 08, 2016 4:55 AM  

Go away and stay away, Craig/serious. You're banned. And now you're spammed.

Anonymous paulus December 09, 2016 8:27 PM  

A way to upload and exchange politically incorrect speech of any sort, like an easier to use version of Tor, would sure be nice, at first maybe text only.

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