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Tuesday, December 27, 2016

RIP Richard Adams

The author of the great novel, Watership Down, is dead at 96. As you've probably already heard, Carrie Fisher, aka Princess Leia, has also died, at 60.

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Blogger James Dixon December 27, 2016 2:08 PM  

We've lost a lot of icons in 2016. :(

Blogger Nick December 27, 2016 2:09 PM  

Read Watership Down when I was 12. Richard Adams will be remembered for that and many more (loved The Plauge Dogs, too)

Blogger Kristophr December 27, 2016 2:10 PM  

Welp, the hospital did say she was stable. This is about as stable as you can get.

Condolences to her family and friends.

Blogger Nick December 27, 2016 2:11 PM  

"Plague". Watership Down is one of the the greatest novels of our lifetime.

Blogger The Gray Man December 27, 2016 2:26 PM  

Sixty seems so young, but Fisher did not appear to be in good health for much of the late 90s and early 00s.

Blogger Kyle Searle December 27, 2016 2:27 PM  

Apparently being an alpha widow takes 20-30 years off your life.

Blogger David Hayter December 27, 2016 2:34 PM  

Fuck you, 2016, fuck you. I hope you die of a poisoned drink at your wedding.

Blogger MordWa December 27, 2016 2:37 PM  

WOMENFOLK: Please be gentle - the Menfolk are in mourning today. Please wear your Slave-Leia gold bikinis at half-mast, and we'll try to get through this, together...

- I am constitutionally unable to not be an arse about celebrity deaths. However -

I was like 10 years old when Return of the Jedi came out - Carrie was a template for defining sexy-but-takes-no-shit-from-idiot-manchild ideal for *ahem* some of usmen, and *sadly* somewhat fewer women. She was sexier in Blues Brothers, but she was the BOSS in ROTJ. I may not have chosen my wife on the basis of "would she choke out Jabba the Hutt?", however I'm quietly confident that Mrs Mords would in fact do it if required. Carrie Fisher had issues - and over a life, don't we all? But she remains, in a vastly over-used phrase - an icon. Vale, and if recent interviews are any guide, hope her dog gets a nice home...

Anonymous Han Solo December 27, 2016 2:40 PM  

Dammit. She was a good leia too, from what I remember. Hell, that was a long time ago and many women have come and gone since then, but I like to think she was above average. RIP baby.

Blogger Whisker biscuit December 27, 2016 2:42 PM  

Wow, she really hated Trump. I just Googled her name and a bunch of her recent Tweets came up. They all were bashing The God Emperor or his supporters.

Oh well. RIP. Hope she knew Jesus.

Anonymous trev006 December 27, 2016 2:45 PM  

Ah, that poor woman. Yeah, not like a Hollywood celebrity needs sympathy, but she looked like she was having a rough time even during her last movie. Here's hoping she found peace.

Losing Richard Adams is even worse. At least he never had to see the remake travesty of his work, and he got to a great old age.

It's a shame to see so many childhood icons dying, but hey, we all have our time.

Blogger Lazarus December 27, 2016 2:46 PM  

Whisker biscuit wrote:Wow, she really hated Trump. I just Googled her name and a bunch of her recent Tweets came up. They all were bashing The God Emperor or his supporters.



Constantly indulged hate is a very strong heart stressor.

Blogger Beefy Levinson December 27, 2016 2:51 PM  

Well, she did say that she didn't want to live in Trump's America.

Blogger Jourdan December 27, 2016 2:55 PM  

Good Lord, I misread that as "Rachel Adams" and my heart skipped a beat. Canadian....beauty...still....alive...hope...alive....

Blogger Baloo December 27, 2016 2:56 PM  

Love the rabbit book. I've read it many times.

Blogger Helixfreak December 27, 2016 2:59 PM  

Watership Down was more successful than any other novel I've read at transporting me to another world. I think it's the folk tales about El-Ahrairah that really do the trick.

Maybe the final script for the new Netflix miniseries is what did Mr. Adams in. This quote from the Telegraph is not encouraging:

"...the 2017 version will not just tone down the levels of on-screen violence to make it more appropriate for children, but give a boost to its female characters."

Anonymous trev006 December 27, 2016 2:59 PM  

I can't believe a celebrity death thread has a "winning" comment, but here we are.

OpenID ar10308 December 27, 2016 3:04 PM  

I guess they killed off the wrong character in A Force Awakens. Here's hoping that they can add a little more life to her in CGI in the next one than she had in VII

Anonymous Silly but True December 27, 2016 3:09 PM  

Watership Down is the Prince of children's literature. It's received countless accolades and every single one of them deserving.

In my circle of friends and family, the Bible is likely the only other book as widely read. Literally everyone I know can give an experience they had and all of them positive. (Arguably, many of them could be recounting memories of the cartoon movie.)

But I'm quite certain the impact of the work will never fully be known, and it's likely greater than any who would try to estimate.

Anonymous Anonymous December 27, 2016 3:15 PM  

"O Mighty Tolkien! Prince of Fantasists! . . . I have just been reveling in one of the greatest literary privileges and experiences of my life . . . The Silmarillion . . . greater and more satisfying than both The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings!" — Richard Adams, author of Watership Down

Blogger Retrenched December 27, 2016 3:22 PM  

Apparently being an alpha widow takes 20-30 years off your life.

Reminds me of the tragic life of Mindy McCready, alpha widow of Roger Clemens. In her case it was about 40 years.

Re: Carrie Fisher, it's been said that she described herself as an "enthusiastic agnostic who would be happy to be shown that there is a God." I guess she got her wish today.

RIP.

Blogger William Hudson December 27, 2016 3:24 PM  

@19 Silly but True, I'm not trying to be a troll-butt here, but do you think "Watership Down" will have more worldwide impact than the original "Star Wars" trilogy?

Though I never read the book, I did see the original animated film of "Watership Down", and was quite blown away by that work. I'm very glad that we were all somewhat graced by Richard Adams' work.

Blogger William Hudson December 27, 2016 3:26 PM  

@ Retranched, I don't think Miss Carrie will be too happy with her latest discovery!

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 27, 2016 3:32 PM  

see, i can feel bad about Richard Adams ... cause he's not a Boomer.

Fisher *could* have lasted a lot longer. she just needed not to toke so much coke.

Blogger John Cunningham December 27, 2016 3:36 PM  

Watership Down is an all-time classic. I have read it 7 or 8 times over the years. Time for another glorious read.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 27, 2016 3:37 PM  

I did not know that Carrie Fisher was quietly one of Hollywood's top script doctors. Lucas relied upon her quite a bit during the original Star Wars trilogy, but not for the prequels. She was even writing short stories for Alec Guinness to help him feel the role (he hated Star Wars). I wonder if she's the difference between the quality of the trilogy vs. the prequels.

I wonder if even the historic in medias res opening of Episode IV was her idea. I can't accept that it came from the same mind that produced those awful prequels.

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 27, 2016 3:38 PM  

17. trev006 December 27, 2016 2:59 PM
I can't believe a celebrity death thread has a "winning" comment, but here we are.



ALWAYS be trolling.

Anonymous Res Ipsa December 27, 2016 3:43 PM  

Carrie Fisher dead at 60.

That's one way to avoid the new Star Wars movies.

Blogger Dave December 27, 2016 3:44 PM  

@trev006 fyi the reply function is only anchored to a specific comment in the mobile version. In the web version we are left guessing which comment is being referenced.

OpenID malcolmthecynic December 27, 2016 3:48 PM  

Oh, man. I'm much more upset about this than Carrie Fisher. "Watership Down" is absolutely brilliant.

Blogger James Dixon December 27, 2016 3:51 PM  

> Watership Down was more successful than any other novel I've read at transporting me to another world. I think it's the folk tales about El-Ahrairah that really do the trick.

I read it much later in life, but I've always ranked it as on par with Jonathon Livingston Seagull.

> Silly but True, I'm not trying to be a troll-butt here, but do you think "Watership Down" will have more worldwide impact than the original "Star Wars" trilogy?

By far. I don't really think there's a comparison.

Blogger rumpole5 December 27, 2016 3:51 PM  

As my wife's great uncle Eslie used to say in filling us in on the local news when we would get back to Cayman Brac for a visit: "A lot of people died that never died before!"

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 27, 2016 3:52 PM  

@Dave, trev006 referenced Beefy Levinson's post.

Well, she did say that she didn't want to live in Trump's America.

Blogger Daniel December 27, 2016 4:01 PM  

I don't think I know the guy. And I have read a lot. Definitively will read. Must be in spanish

OpenID aew51183 December 27, 2016 4:13 PM  

In other news, cernovich has been purging his trump victory party of anyone the neocon establishment points at and calls "racist".

He is now being patted on the head and being called the next William Buckley.

Anonymous paradox December 27, 2016 4:14 PM  

@Res Ipsa

I wouldn't be so certain of that.

Blogger Cinco December 27, 2016 4:16 PM  

I took my daughter to see Rogue One yesterday and seeing Miss Fisher on the big screen one last time was nice. I am glad she went out on top, so to speak.

RIP

Anonymous Princess Leia December 27, 2016 4:18 PM  

Even in death you misogynistic bastards refuse to grant me the top billing I deserve. How dare you stash me here as a mere afterthought? I demand my name in lights in the title of my own post.

Blogger Deplorable December 27, 2016 4:20 PM  

> Well, she did say that she didn't want to live in Trump's America.

Another sacrifice for the God-Emperor Ascendant.

Blogger Dexter December 27, 2016 4:26 PM  

She used up 30 years of heartbeats in 5 years when she did all that coke in the late 70s.

Blogger lowercaseb December 27, 2016 4:27 PM  

96 years is a long full life and he deserved every one of those years.

They put this on the death announcement, but I think it is appropriate here as well...

“It seemed to Hazel that he would not be needing his body any more, so he left it lying on the edge of the ditch, but stopped for a moment to watch his rabbits and to try to get used to the extraordinary feeling that strength and speed were flowing inexhaustibly out of him into their sleek young bodies and healthy senses.

“‘You needn’t worry about them,’ said his companion. ‘They’ll be alright – and thousands like them.”’

Blogger lowercaseb December 27, 2016 4:29 PM  

...although, I think it needs to be said that Richard Adams was the farthest thing from being a Rabbit in the r/K world.

Anonymous RID: Random Internet "Douchebag" December 27, 2016 4:32 PM  

> Carrie Fisher, aka Princess Leia, has also died, at 60.

Good. Hopefully this will prevent her ascent to mega-ultra-super general / president of everything in the next movie. Which is still somehow higher of a post than princess... which is elected.

Blogger CCubed December 27, 2016 4:34 PM  

Watership Down is a great book. How many times is our current society compared to Cowslip's Warren?

But another book of his I liked was Shardik. A simple hunter comes across a great bear wounded in a forest fire and sees it as the incarnation of his tribe's chief god, Shardik. His discovery changes his life and that of his tribe.

Go to https://www.amazon.com/Shardik-Richard-Adams/dp/1585671827/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482874072&sr=8-1&keywords=shardik

and read the 1st couple of pages and you'll recognize what a great writer Adams was.

Anonymous trev006 December 27, 2016 4:34 PM  

@Dave @Arthur @Beefy,

Sorry about that. Good to know the difference.

Blogger lowercaseb December 27, 2016 4:38 PM  

CCubed wrote:and read the 1st couple of pages and you'll recognize what a great writer Adams was.

Thank you for this! I took a peek and now I have this story prepped for the commute home.

Anonymous BBGKB December 27, 2016 4:39 PM  

Well, she did say that she didn't want to live in Trump's America.

Janet Reno said TRUMP would be president over her dead body.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook December 27, 2016 4:51 PM  

2016 is one hell of a blood gorged year from celebs to terrorist attacks but a years gotta eat i guess.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer December 27, 2016 5:02 PM  

I hope they 3d scanned Carrie Fisher for the Peter Cushing treatment.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 27, 2016 5:22 PM  

The Gray Man @5: "Sixty seems so young, but Fisher did not appear to be in good health for much of the late 90s and early 00s."

I'm wondering if it might be related to the long flight...blood clots can be a problem from prolonged sitting like that, especially if her system was already compromised.

RIP, Ms. Fisher and Mr. Adams.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 27, 2016 5:28 PM  

ghostfromplanetspook : "2016 is one hell of a blood gorged year"

CNN is calling it The Year The Music Died.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 27, 2016 5:36 PM  

James Dixon @1: "We've lost a lot of icons in 2016."

Should Death have been Time's Person of the Year?

Anonymous Jack Amok December 27, 2016 5:47 PM  

CNN is calling it The Year The Music Died.

Bullshit. The guys from Tikiyaki Orchestra are still alive.

Well, at least Carrie Fisher outlived the franchise she helped launch, if not it's reanimated zombie corpse.

Anonymous 6184 December 27, 2016 5:58 PM  

Gone with the Black Rabbit and his Owsla.

Blogger Johnny December 27, 2016 6:20 PM  

She was not a good Leia, she was a great Leia. But by reputation a difficult personality. For some reason the best creative talents often have difficulty running their private lives.

Blogger L. Beau December 27, 2016 7:50 PM  

Gone with the Black Rabbit and his Owsla. Well said, 6184!

Blogger Bobo #117 December 27, 2016 8:26 PM  

Her greatest role, that of the therapist leading the group with Dr. Evil and Scott, will always be riveted in my mind...

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 27, 2016 8:44 PM  

This has been the deadliest year for celebrities I can recollect. Some well-known, others not so much. I'll miss some of the latter greatly.

Anonymous Discard December 27, 2016 8:47 PM  

As long as we're talking about dead writers, there is a newly discovered George MacDonald Fraser novel in print, "Captain in Calico". It's not Flashman, but it's got pirates.

Blogger ace December 27, 2016 9:13 PM  

The crew in Watership Down is based on the squad Adams served in during WWII, and Hazel is based on his squad leader. That's why they're all bucks.

Boys especially need to read books with heroes like Hazel and his team. I suspect that eventually even Hazel himself will be recast as a girl in some misguided adaptation.

One of the few children's books that suffers nothing from being read as an adult.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 28, 2016 1:21 AM  

This has been the deadliest year for celebrities I can recollect.

The cult of celebrity didn't explode until the 50's and 60's, and all those folks are old now, so it's no surprise they're dying in record numbers.

20 years ago, how many grey haired celebs were there, compared to today? More are dying cause there are more old ones. And the drinking and drug use ages 'em faster.

Except for the Rolling Stones. Whatever they use must be soaked in preservatives.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare December 28, 2016 1:24 AM  

@Dave
Oh! I didn't know that. I'll have to remember that in the future, because I'm pretty much always on mobile when I comment here (or most anywhere else, really). Thanks! :-)

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 28, 2016 1:30 AM  

60. Jack Amok December 28, 2016 1:21 AM
The cult of celebrity didn't explode until the 50's and 60's



Fatty Arbuckle and Rudolph Valentino would like a word with you.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 28, 2016 6:57 AM  

"there is a newly discovered George MacDonald Fraser novel in print, "Captain in Calico". It's not Flashman, but it's got pirates."

Thanks. "The Light's on at Signpost" wasn't bad, either, for an old man rant.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 28, 2016 8:17 AM  

I'll really have to re-read WD in honor of his passing. I really did like it, oh so long ago now. And for some reason I never read anything else he's written, so I'll have to check that out as well.

Oh God, I loathe the idea of what Hollywood types might do to this classic with a new interpretation in film. You just know they're gonna ruin it, in so many ways.

Blogger William Hudson December 28, 2016 10:54 AM  

@62 bob kek mando:
Sure, Fatty & Rudolph were genuine celebrities, but I have to agree with Jack about the "explosion" in the 50's & 60's. Jewlywood and the music moguls manufactured many many icons during those decades. I would also add the 70's to the mix. Those folks are getting a bit long in the tooth also.

Blogger Jed Mask December 28, 2016 12:40 PM  

Sad, sad, SAD... Grew up knowing Ms. Fisher as "Princess Leia" of Star Wars series as kid growing up.

In the end, like some here have said, only hoped she knew JESUS before her death.

Let's keep her family, friends and loved ones in *PRAYER* and solace. Amen.

~ Bro. Jed

Anonymous Jack Amok December 28, 2016 6:28 PM  

Fatty Arbuckle and Rudolph Valentino would like a word with you.

William Hudson got it. I used the word "explosion" deliberately. Celebs existed for a long time (even before Hollywood!), but we had a relatively limited number until the middle of last century. Plus, we only really paid attention to the mega-celebrities until recently. George Michael? Glenn Fry? Nothing against either one or their music, but if they'd died 50 years ago, most people never would have even heard about it.

Anonymous kfg December 29, 2016 5:42 PM  

"Carrie Fisher, aka Princess Leia, has also died"

I'm gonna miss her mom. She was a sexy little firecracker in her day. Smart as a whip too, and funnier ad lib than most comedians written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMvGUCTpCIY

And remember children, first they must catch you.

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