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Tuesday, December 20, 2016

Russia suspects NATO

The assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey has the Russians thinking conspiracy:
Today Senator Frantz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the Russian upper chamber’s defence and security committee, said: “It was a planned action,” the Mail Online reported. “Everyone knew that he was going to attend this photo exhibition. It can be ISIS, or the Kurdish army which tries to hurt Erdogan.

“But may be – and it is highly likely – that representatives of foreign NATO secret services are behind it. What has happened is a true provocation, a challenge. It is a challenge for Russia.”
Note that another Russian diplomat was shot to death in his home in Moscow the same day. The only conspiracy theory that makes any sense is that NATO and the neocons want to provoke war between Russia and Turkey while the USA is still obligated by treaty to go to war on Turkey's behalf.
A Russian diplomat has been found dead from gunshot wounds at his home, it is reported. Petr Polshikov, 56, was discovered with a bullet injury to his head at his flat in Moscow's Balaklavsky Prospekt, according to local media. The alleged shooting came just hours after the news broke of the assassination of Russian ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov. Polshikov was said to be a senior figure in the Latin American department of the Russian foreign ministry.
It's not exactly a secret that the neocons are desperate for a US-Russian war since they haven't been able to generate a US-Iranian war despite more than 10 years of beating their war drums.

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80 Comments:

Blogger Mighty Lou December 20, 2016 8:01 AM  

Didn't Obama say he'd retaliate for Russia Hacking the election?

Anonymous Eric the Red December 20, 2016 8:08 AM  

Trump will start a reduction of US resources for NATO. It's absurd that we have been funding this while the other members do next to nothing. Pulling back on US involvement will have two desirable effects:
1) European nations like Germany will start to look to their own defense, which can help change their mindset about immigration;
2) Russian and other non-NATO countries will come to see it as less powerful and so less of a threat.

Win-win all around, and only the Donald can get it done.

Blogger Student in Blue December 20, 2016 8:10 AM  

I tried finding the source for this quote and couldn't find it. Another instance of "fake news but holy crap does it sound plausible"?

Blogger Franz Lyonheart December 20, 2016 8:12 AM  

As soon as I read that the assassin was shot dead on site, instead of being overwhelmed and brought in for questioning, I thought that this setup stinks.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck December 20, 2016 8:13 AM  

Well, Turkey is a NATO country, and the killer was a government agent ...

Russia kneejerks to 'Conspracy!' like SJWs kneejerk to 'Racism!'

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 20, 2016 8:14 AM  

Makes sense, especially in light of Syrian forces finding NATO,Israeli and Saudi black ops trying to flee Aleppo with the terrorist opposition yesterday.

If Trump is legit, Jan 20th can't come soon enough.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck December 20, 2016 8:15 AM  

He was armed and threatening the news crews. There are some neat photos of the event out there.

Blogger Minecraft Chuck December 20, 2016 8:18 AM  

Russia does not take this sort of thing laying down. They do not send polite notes requesting future discussion. They send intelligence agents to find out what happened and who was involved. Then they send Spetznaz agents to kill everyone and their families.

Blogger Sherwood family December 20, 2016 8:21 AM  

Well that's just peachy. The problem with conspiracy theories is that they are non-falsifiable and will persist in the memories of people regardless of evidence that points to any other explanation. Even if the neocons are not behind it...well...if everyone believes the neocons are behind it it doesn't matter.

We avoided a war with Russia at the ballot box by voting in Trump but it looks like the neocons are interested in initiating war by other means.

Blogger ZhukovG December 20, 2016 8:24 AM  

Neocons are nothing, if not persistent.

Blogger Sherwood family December 20, 2016 8:25 AM  

This gives Trump an opportunity to 1) denounce this kind of thing in general and 2) call for U.S. exit from NATO.

Blogger Koanic December 20, 2016 8:31 AM  

"Note that another Russian ex-ambassador was shot to death in his home in Russia the same day."

First I heard of it, but that certainly shifts the balance towards NATO and Obamabitch.

Imagine if these kiddy fuckers didn't have to rush.

Blogger Mighty Lou December 20, 2016 8:39 AM  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/15/obama-says-we-will-retaliate-against-russia-for-election-hacking/?utm_term=.a67721ce1190

Blogger FALPhil December 20, 2016 8:40 AM  

The USA cannot get out of NATO soon enough.

Blogger Mighty Lou December 20, 2016 8:41 AM  

Obama from NPR interview :

“I think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections . . . we need to take action,” the president said. “And we will — at a time and place of our own choosing. Some of it may be explicit and publicized; some of it may not be.”

Anonymous VFMUltra December 20, 2016 8:42 AM  

Has the time come for the US to have its Night of the Long Knives and rid themselves of the neocon threat? Hopefully all the Russian sleeper agents who voted for Trump and threw the election (that's the story, right?) will also raise up and take care of this issue.

Blogger Gordon December 20, 2016 8:44 AM  

He didn't drop the gun and surrender. That will get one shot by security.

Still, anything, anything, is possible in Turkey right now. I'm not buying the idea of neocons thrilling at the idea of US-Russia war. Diplomatic incompetence is the norm, rather than the exception, I think. But we seem to have hit the jackpot for peak incompetence lately.

Blogger AdognamedOp December 20, 2016 8:45 AM  

While it's easy to laugh at leftist butthurt over the Trumpenslide, there's the real danger that they might try and burn it all down.

Blogger Gordon December 20, 2016 8:49 AM  

Actually, as far as a war, what are we going to fight it with? What can we deploy in Europe? A couple of battalions? Two or three squadrons of fighters? I know the Russian army is a shadow of the Red Army at its peak, but they've still got more on hand than we do by an order of magnitude, if not two orders.

Of course, we can count on our NATO allies. The Brits would send a company. The rest, a platoon each of support troops, to be withdrawn the first time a bullet flies.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 20, 2016 8:50 AM  

AdognamedOp wrote:While it's easy to laugh at leftist butthurt over the Trumpenslide, there's the real danger that they might try and burn it all down.

Burn it all down was one of our possible victory conditions, wasn't it? Like everything else the neo-cons/liberals try, that's likely to backfire.

Blogger James Dixon December 20, 2016 8:58 AM  

> Russia kneejerks to 'Conspracy!' like SJWs kneejerk to 'Racism!'

With their history, they have good reason for doing so.

> While it's easy to laugh at leftist butthurt over the Trumpenslide, there's the real danger that they might try and burn it all down.

Doing our job for us, huh? One would think we were playing Xanatos Gambit, wouldn't one?

Blogger Off The Wall December 20, 2016 8:59 AM  

The Russians suspect everyone.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer December 20, 2016 9:12 AM  


#14

There was some idiot on FNC the other day declaring that if another country "hacks" the US then we must punish them so that they do not do so again. She was practically crying about it. You would think she was discussing someone breaking into her apartment. It was ridiculous. I have no doubt that the Russians probe and attack various computer networks in the US, as does every other country with the capability do so. And we do the same to Russia and other countries. Considering our superior resources I would like to think we a better at it. But, probably not since our government is run by credentialed idiots.

Blogger VD December 20, 2016 9:12 AM  

I'm not buying the idea of neocons thrilling at the idea of US-Russia war.

You're a moron. They've been openly calling for it for months. Who do you think was behind the coup in Ukraine in the first place? Who has been pushing for the expansion of NATO since 2007?

Blogger James Dixon December 20, 2016 9:15 AM  

> Actually, as far as a war, what are we going to fight it with?

Details, details. The neo-cons are the master planners. They leave things like that to rank and file. They'll think of something.

The scene in Atlas Shrugged where someone says that to Hank Rearden comes to mind.

Anonymous #8601 December 20, 2016 9:16 AM  

(((NATO)))

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer December 20, 2016 9:17 AM  

Who has been pushing for the expansion of NATO since 2007?

But NATO was created at the start of the Cold War to check Soviet expansion! Therefore it must continue to exist and expand! Changing circumstances are irrelevant!

Blogger Gordon December 20, 2016 9:19 AM  

Mah mama sez moron is as moron does.

The consequences of a full-on war with Russia are incalculable. Even neocons know this; they are not ignorant of the history of the 20th century.

I would buy that they're hoping to intimidate, bluff, whatever the Russians--but I don't think even they want an actual hot war. A proxy war, perhaps, thinking it could be contained.

Blogger Mountain Man December 20, 2016 9:20 AM  

"The USA cannot get out of NATO soon enough."

NATO is the US, as is the the UN.
They do the bidding of the Deep State using a window dressing of "world community".

Blogger VD December 20, 2016 9:21 AM  

I would buy that they're hoping to intimidate, bluff, whatever the Russians--but I don't think even they want an actual hot war. A proxy war, perhaps, thinking it could be contained.

You're wrong. They don't give a damn about all the Americans and Europeans and Russians who would die. That's a feature, not a bug, as far as they are concerned.

Blogger Mountain Man December 20, 2016 9:25 AM  

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Blogger BCD December 20, 2016 9:25 AM  

Likely a Gulenist. Gulen has many supporters in the police and military. Many Turks suspect he was also behind the shoot-down of the Russian jet. Of course, they also wonder why the US has been sheltering him all these years.

Anonymous Didas Kalos December 20, 2016 9:27 AM  

Then you obviously don't know these people. (((They))) are not normal. Lulling human beings is not a deterrent as you think it should be. (((They))) relish it.

Anonymous Didas Kalos December 20, 2016 9:28 AM  

Killing.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer December 20, 2016 9:30 AM  

Just think, if we reassessed the international situation and adjusted our strategies and organizations because circumstances had changed then we would not have had the League of Nations to stop that Hitler fellow.

Blogger Mountain Man December 20, 2016 9:30 AM  

"While it's easy to laugh at leftist butthurt over the Trumpenslide"

Most of them are useful idiots who just add a voice of "democracy" to the machinations of the neocon globalists. The puppeteers are the ones who we need to be wary of . They are the shadowy characters fully ensconced in all levels of the Deep State - from national security to banking - and pulling all sorts of levers in an effort to institute a coup.
The average leftist rabbit bloviating about "trump being hitler" is a pathetic specimen. Similar in many ways to the drunk mentally ill, homeless guy stumbling down the sidewalk. . Nothing you want to interact with - but easily avoidable and relatively harmless.

Blogger praetorian December 20, 2016 9:53 AM  

I'm not buying the idea of neocons thrilling at the idea of US-Russia war. Diplomatic incompetence is the norm, rather than the exception, I think. But we seem to have hit the jackpot for peak incompetence lately.

Reading the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit currently:

https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Revolutionary-Spirit-Impact-History/dp/0929891074

In the chapter on The Inquisition, it is claimed that the conversos (jews pretending to be Christians) had the sympathy of the pope and a significant amount of the people and nobles until they overstepped and assassinated Pedro de Arbués

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Arbu%C3%A9s

This is the pattern, again and again: push, push, push, then the horrific backlash. I'm not sure if, at the socio-spiritual level, they can help it.

Anonymous TheSmokingMan#3424 December 20, 2016 9:54 AM  

Its a good thing that the NSA has all of these neo-cons emails. When the God-Emperor Ascends, he will have all the information he needs to root out this corruption. perhaps he can even force their "right of return"

Anonymous genericviews December 20, 2016 9:57 AM  

"...while the USA is still obligated by treaty to go to war on Turkey's behalf."

That's not as "binding" as it sounds. We can meet that obligation by sending a few military advisors, or we can simply delay sending a response until it is moot. It's not as if anyone would force us to participate or hold it against us if we fail. It would be perfectly acceptable if we backed Turkey with the same exact level of effort as Luxembourg or Greece.

Anonymous TheSmokingMan#3424 December 20, 2016 9:59 AM  

Why do you blaspheme our Dark Lord with links to Wikipedia?

Do you not know of the font of all human knowledge known as InfoGalactic ?

Blogger praetorian December 20, 2016 10:07 AM  

Consider the current campaign against Richard Spencer's mom. Jews went after her and forced her to sell her property in Montana, and then literally cry out in pain when people start hitting back. It's almost comic confirmation of what every 'crazy anti-semite' I've ignored and dismissed over the last decade has been talking about.

Since they have no solidarity with the European truth-orientation (derived from our highly cooperative, high trust societies) they don't understand that there is nothing more devastating, or anger provoking, to us than to find out someone is a liar. This makes us easy suckers, and, with a christian overlay, patient, forgiving suckers.

But then, finally, the backlash.

Blogger praetorian December 20, 2016 10:09 AM  

Why do you blaspheme our Dark Lord with links to Wikipedia?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Pedro_de_Arbu%C3%A9s

Muscle memory is a hell of a drug.

Anonymous rienzi December 20, 2016 10:09 AM  

While it is easy to conceive of NATO offing the diplomat in Moscow, I would throw a different possibility out there.

The dude was part of their Latin American section. If I was betting my own money it, I would guess that he got on the wrong side of people involved in the drug trade. The Russian mob can be pretty merciless.

The two diplomats being killed on the same day just being a coincidence.

Blogger Mountain Man December 20, 2016 10:10 AM  

" perhaps he can even force their "right of return"'

...Not likely considering half his inlaws are Jewish

Blogger Alexandros December 20, 2016 10:11 AM  

VD wrote:You're wrong. They don't give a damn about all the Americans and Europeans and Russians who would die. That's a feature, not a bug, as far as they are concerned.

Jesus Christ, are they really as big as a monster as that? That makes a lot of things make sudden sense, but wow that is cold blooded.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III December 20, 2016 10:14 AM  

But, it is only the elites.

NAJALT

In fucking Montana.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 20, 2016 10:15 AM  

" perhaps he can even force their "right of return"'

...Not likely considering half his inlaws are Jewish


You don't always have to solve all of a problem. Often, if you solve a part of it, clearly and convincingly, the rest of the problem will quietly stop being a problem.

Blogger Shimshon December 20, 2016 10:21 AM  

@44 Alexandros, yes, they are that monstrous. Madeleine "500000 deaths is worth it" Albright is perhaps the most convenient exhibit. Hillary "we came; we saw; he died" Clinton is another. They all think like that though. They literally have no problem destroying entire countries and snuffing out millions of lives in pursuit of their agendas.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 20, 2016 10:24 AM  

While it's easy to laugh at leftist butthurt over the Trumpenslide, there's the real danger that they might try and burn it all down.

You mean "burn it down faster." They were already burning it down, just slowly enough that most people didn't object. That's why we started calling Trump the Xanatos Candidate many months ago: win or lose, his campaign flushed the enemies of civilization (especially those pretending to be on the right) out into the open, and forced them to press harder toward their goals and make more mistakes.

Anonymous Steveo December 20, 2016 10:27 AM  

Putin's magic put the exit of US from NATO & it's ridiculous cost in $ - ON THE TABLE. Trump will do it b/c it's the sane thing to do. It's long been a joke. Let's see.

Blogger pyrrhus December 20, 2016 10:28 AM  

@44 Neocons would destroy half the planet and put their opponents in concentration camps if they thought they could get away with it, as long as it kept them in power.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair December 20, 2016 10:29 AM  

"Likely a Gulenist. Gulen has many supporters in the police and military. Many Turks suspect he was also behind the shoot-down of the Russian jet. Of course, they also wonder why the US has been sheltering him all these years."

@31 Gulen denied involvement with the offing of Karlov. Whether or not that's true is anyone's guess.

With regards to the former ambassador to Bolivia being offed, who knows?

Hell, the assassination of Archiduke Ferdinand was carried out by a patsy of Russian intelligence. Stranger things have happened.

Anonymous Rien December 20, 2016 10:30 AM  

While I am sure the Russians can spin this in a way that makes the NATO responsible I do not think that the NATO operates this way.
However with all the accusations flying over the pond in the direction of Russia, I am not surprised that they take advantage of this situation and push back.

Blogger JWM in SD December 20, 2016 10:31 AM  

Yes, it would.

Anonymous LES December 20, 2016 10:31 AM  

Who are the neocons?

Blogger Basil Makedon December 20, 2016 10:37 AM  

The would be assassin was an "off duty police officer." Regardless of the truth (and I have no idea), there is no way that the Russian people will not consider it a Turkish conspiracy.

I doubt that "off duty police officer" man could get a gun into any event with a foreign ambassador in Russia. In the US, I'm not so sure. Off duty cops often moonlight as security and I could see a museum hiring one for an event.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 20, 2016 10:39 AM  

Jesus Christ, are they really as big as a monster as that?

If you play computer strategy games, do you feel bad when you send wave after wave of pixels to die against enemy fire? Let's say a scenario calls for you to send a thousand soldiers -- out of millions that you have -- against one well-fortified wall so that a single spy can sneak through the opposite gate. Do you hesitate over the loss of life?

I hope they aren't that inhuman. But I can't prove it by the evidence.

Blogger Koanic December 20, 2016 10:57 AM  

> Jesus Christ, are they really as big as a monster as that?

Jesus Christ said their father is the Devil.

> If you play computer strategy games, do you feel bad when you send wave after wave of pixels to die against enemy fire?

Yes.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft December 20, 2016 10:59 AM  

@56. You're right. Humans have more hate than that, especially these humans.

Anonymous BBGKB December 20, 2016 11:06 AM  

Didn't Obama say he'd retaliate for Russia Hacking the election?

He stopped serving caviar to male hookers.

> Actually, as far as a war, what are we going to fight it with?

If we go full Weimar dropping pallets of money will be cheaper than bombs.

Jesus Christ, are they really as big as a monster as that? That makes a lot of things make sudden sense, but wow that is cold blooded.

The map is not the terrain but what would they do different if they actually were lizard people with tiny PPs, who wished learned helplessness on all humans?

Anonymous BBGKB December 20, 2016 11:19 AM  

Dear Mr Trump. Please do not make heads roll at the CIA. It would be much better to have a traitors week on "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than A Faggot"
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/donald-trump-will-ruthlessly-decimate-cia-turning-against-him/ri18205

Anonymous Bob December 20, 2016 11:31 AM  

Pretty smooth if you ask me. Suddenly Erdogan finds himself in a spot where he now has to allow an entire cohort of FSB investigators access in the name of cooperation. Putin now exerts political control, and of course this "joint investigation force" will no doubt link the incident with Turkish traitors not picked off in the recent pseudo-coup. Erdogan just got an offer he can't refuse.

Definitely not JV players here...

Anonymous Azimus December 20, 2016 11:46 AM  

So if the players in the area are NATO, Russia, Erdogan, anti-Erdogan Turks (whether or not the coup was a false flag this faction exists in numbers), the "Syrian rebels", Kurds, Assad, and Iran, who benefits?

The Turk claimed to be acting on behalf of Syrian rebels. The Syrian rebels would benefit from strained relations between Russia and Turkey IF Turkish material support for the rebels was drying up. The northern rebels are certainly being supplied through Turkey, and if Tayyip gets mad at Russia again, the rebels would see an influx of supplies, money, and men.

NATO would benefit for obvious reasons that have been discussed, particularly a war party. There may also be real fear that Tayyip will take Turkey out of NATO - heck he just took them out of the EU (sort of).

I can see no benefit for Russia to assassinate their own ambassador.

Erdogan personally could benefit from the assassination if he was trying to start a war with Russia. He is an ambitious a-hole, seems to have dreams of reviving the Ottoman Empire. Well, that would include former Ottoman territory still part of Russia - and hey! Why not let the Russo-phobic west do all the fighting for him? All he needs to do is to provoke Russia into getting angry/doing something stupid, and Captain America comes to turn back the Russian hordes...

The Anti-Erdogan Turks could benefit from keeping Erdogan isolated and friendless in the world. NATO has cooled on him, Russia was recently cozying up to fill the void - to repel Russia would leave him very unpopular globally.

I'm not terribly familiar with the Kurdish situation. I know they've been cooperating with SAA/Assad in Aleppo, so that may mean they've been receiving support from Russia? IIRC Putin turned to them to retaliate for the Su24 incident, so they may have been enjoying support from Russia that MAY be drying up as well? The Kurds do a pretty decent job on their own, and though they do the assassination/terrorism thing its usually focused on the Turks themselves.

Similarly I can't see a way Assad or Iran benefit from this attack.

An Erdogan-initiated move with the implicit backing of NATO is probably the right conclusion.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 20, 2016 11:55 AM  

If Russian suspicions are true it makes sense either for Edrogan or the Neo-Cons to have done this.

With Trump coming into power in what 3 weeks the ability to use this to leverage NATO/The US into a war hot or proxy war is fading fast.

Thus it becomes use it or lose it.

My guess is Russians being crafty will respond carefully and not be provoked into a war with the US though

Anonymous Pennywise December 20, 2016 12:03 PM  

Suppose Putin gets hot-headed and seeks to put the U.S. on the spot. I say let the neo-cons run us into the ground. By 2033, America will be no more as a nation. Let's drain the swamp now by beginning the dawn of a new era. Dare Russia into dropping nukes. Let's see who blinks. And if it's war they want, then give it to them. Stop posturing for the love of God.

Blogger Nick S December 20, 2016 12:05 PM  

Regardless of the truth, I would have thought Putin would take the opportunity to publically insinuate Obama may have been following through on his threat to retaliate against Russia for hacking the election.

Blogger Scott Birch December 20, 2016 12:20 PM  

There's a photograph of the killer straightening a picture on the wall immediately after he killed the ambassador. I'm fascinated by it. What kind of compartmentalization is that? How does that kind of id takeover work?

Blogger William Hudson December 20, 2016 12:50 PM  

@64 Pennywise, WTF is WRONG with you? Are you a butthurt negro or something? You certainly don't seem to give two shits about your fellow humans, White or otherwise.

Blogger John P December 20, 2016 1:42 PM  

No NATO would never do anything illegal......how about this - Operation Gladio.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Swiss historian Daniele Ganser in his 2005 book, NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe, accused Gladio of trying to influence policies through the means of "false flag" operations and a "strategy of tension". Ganser alleges that on various occasions, stay-behind movements became linked to right-wing terrorism, crime and attempted coups d'état.[8] In NATO's Secret Armies Ganser states that Gladio units closely cooperated with NATO and the CIA and that Gladio in Italy was responsible for terrorist attacks against its own civilian population.[63]

Operation Gladio (Italian: Operazione Gladio) is the codename for a clandestine North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) "stay-behind" operation in Italy during the Cold War. Its purpose was to prepare for, and implement, armed resistance in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion and conquest. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organizations, "Operation Gladio" is used as an informal name for all of them. The name Gladio is the Italian form of gladius, a type of Roman shortsword. Stay-behind operations were prepared in many NATO member countries, and some neutral countries.[1]

The role of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Gladio and the extent of its activities during the Cold War era, and any relationship to terrorist attacks perpetrated in Italy during the "Years of Lead" (late 1960s to early 1980s) is the subject of debate. Switzerland and Belgium have had parliamentary inquiries into the matter.[2]

Anonymous Discard December 20, 2016 3:32 PM  

67. William Hudson: Pennywise is like a dog turd on the sidewalk. Don't talk to it, just walk around it.

Anonymous Discard December 20, 2016 3:37 PM  

Given the future that the neocons would face if justice were established in this country, there's nothing they wouldn't do to stay in power. If it's destroy half the world or swing from a lamp post, they'll destroy half the world.

Blogger Tina December 20, 2016 3:56 PM  

@47 Shimshon Thank you for pointing out the women behind the millennium chaos. Madeleine Albright, Hillary Clinton, the unrelated Rices, Samantha Power, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Angela Merkel, on and on. They told us if women ran the world it would be a peaceful place, but it is worse - what we are dealing with now is a consequence of women's influence in too-high corridors of militar ypower. Margaret Mead was correct:
"But the evidence of history and comparative studies of other species suggest that women as a fighting body might be far less amenable to the rules that prevent warfare from becoming a massacre and, with the use of modern weapons, that protect the survival of all humanity."

@63 A.B. Prosper wrote "My guess is Russians being crafty will respond carefully and not be provoked into a war with the US though"
Yes, I agree. I'm also confident President Trump is the man we elected, that he and Mattis and Putin will all do everything in their power to assure US & Russia only war with genuine enemies and only when necessary. They only have to make it through next 30 days. Out here in the workaday world, we continue to pray and fast and do the part given for small hands and small voices. So far, so Good, praise Jesus.

Blogger Kona Commuter December 20, 2016 5:00 PM  

Minecraft Chuck wrote:Russia does not take this sort of thing laying down. They do not send polite notes requesting future discussion. They send intelligence agents to find out what happened and who was involved. Then they send Spetznaz agents to kill everyone and their families.

That was the old days.

Perhaps this time around Russian agents will identify those responsible and sic a mob of invaders ("refugees") to attack them first? That'd have a lot of impact. Powerful people directly attacked by the invaders would make a nice change from the ordinary citizen bearing the brunt

Blogger Ezekiel December 20, 2016 5:28 PM  

"But may be – and it is highly likely – that representatives of foreign NATO secret services are behind it."

I was talking with some of the others at work and they all pretty much agreed that this *felt* like a professional hit and not the act of a Dorner-style nutcase cop. How often can normal beat cops fire multiple rounds at one target and hit only that target?

Weird that he was willing to die afterwards if that's the case, and he clearly knew that he would. Do hitmen usually sign up for suicide missions?

Lastly, I probably shouldn't be making light of an innocent man's death, especially a death that may well lead to World War III, but...

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/201/754/b8f.jpg

Blogger Ezekiel December 20, 2016 5:29 PM  

The guy even *looks* like a spook, not a cop.

Blogger wreckage December 20, 2016 6:47 PM  

Putting aside all larger theories, consider this:

Cluster fucks like this are why you do NOT make Big Swinging Dick but vague and open-ended threats, against a nuclear power, just because you're having a teenage-girl snit over someone reading your diary.

Consider, that if this were to lead to war, it would be in part because of Hillary and Obama's bullshit egoism.

In fact, I wonder if this isn't an opportunistic play provoked by exactly that diplomatic weakness.

Blogger Eric Slate December 21, 2016 1:06 AM  

Russia suspecting US leftist involvement will move quickly. They know the US is politically fractured right now. That implies the correct move is to gather evidence, then hand it to the Lefts enemies here to be deployed when it will hurt them the most.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 21, 2016 2:31 AM  

So if the players in the area are NATO, Russia, Erdogan, anti-Erdogan Turks (whether or not the coup was a false flag this faction exists in numbers), the "Syrian rebels", Kurds, Assad, and Iran, who benefits?

You left out (((one player))) that benefits from chaos directly, and whose likely goal is extending the conflict indefinitely.

Anonymous Laz December 21, 2016 5:12 AM  

Woke up and turned on the TV this morning. The first thing I see is, "Russia, Turkey united in assassination; Both believe this was done to drive a wedge between them". This was an MSM channel.

Anonymous Sixth largest island December 21, 2016 6:44 AM  

@Praetorian Now they're smearing Spencer's wife with their vile filth. I don't even need to look at the (((bylines))) anymore.

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