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Monday, December 19, 2016

Russian ambassador assassinated

Shot dead in Turkey. This situation could get ugly fast.
Russian ambassador to Turkey dead after being shot in 'assassination attempt in revenge for Aleppo'
Those unfamiliar with Russian or Turkish history may not realize that Russo-Turkish war used to be a fairly regular phenomenon. The assassination is also a powerful argument against Muslim immigration in the West. After all, what does a Turk care about internal Syrian affairs?

Interesting times. And could it be the Alt-Right's meme magic bringing these events to pass?

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114 Comments:

Blogger Sillon Bono December 19, 2016 11:34 AM  

Shit! Link?

Anonymous Carlos Danger December 19, 2016 11:38 AM  

It is Orthodox prophecy that Russia will destroy Turkey and return Asia Minor to Greece with Constantinople.

Blogger Salt December 19, 2016 11:39 AM  

@1 Front and center at Drudge.

Blogger The Kurgan December 19, 2016 11:39 AM  

With any luck Turkey can return to western civilisation after Saint Putin clears it of Saracens.
I'd like to lay claim to the ancient city of Ilium of my ancestors now, so there's no arguing later.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 19, 2016 11:39 AM  

US out of NATO NOW! Before one of these tin-pot tyrants gets the USA dragged into another quagmire.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 19, 2016 11:42 AM  

I was just thinking I want something spectacular to break out. I'm tired of incrementalism, gradualism, uniformitarianism. Have you ever secretly craved a denouement, for all hell to break loose?

Anonymous Hugh G. Gaines December 19, 2016 11:42 AM  

Do it, Putin. Become wrath.

Blogger l' Américain December 19, 2016 11:43 AM  

Yuri, get the gulag.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 19, 2016 11:44 AM  

Time for Trump to recognize an independent Kurdistan including those parts of Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Time to punish Erdogan for his orthodox Mohammedanism and brinkmanship.

Blogger Sillon Bono December 19, 2016 11:44 AM  

@7

Hugh G. Gaines wrote:Do it, Putin. Become wrath.

Yes, but not before the NATO and USA nukes have been taken out of Turkey please.

Pretty please.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 19, 2016 11:45 AM  

Make Turkey Greece Again

Anonymous DJF December 19, 2016 11:51 AM  

How soon before the NYT and Washington Post put out a fake news story that Putin ordered the hit? After all, Putin is responsible for everything else.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 19, 2016 11:53 AM  

@9..
And move Incirlik Air Base to Kurdistan.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 19, 2016 11:55 AM  

UK Daily mirror simply notes Russian ambassador was shot while at an art exhibition in Ankara. Could be sudden Jihad syndrome.

OpenID kbswift December 19, 2016 11:59 AM  

CNN Turk also adds that the man who shot the ambassador shouted about Aleppo.

Sounds like another false flag.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 19, 2016 12:01 PM  

It would be great if any remaining elements of the Turkish army who are faithful to Ataturk could coordinate with Putin to depose Erdogan in an actual coup attempt.

Anonymous trev006 December 19, 2016 12:02 PM  

Wasn't Putin just planning to increase co-operation between Russia and Turkey? I don't usually talk about false flags, not even after Sandy Hook, but this looks suspicious as hell.

Whoever is really responsible had better watch their asses. Putin doesn't take attacks on his ambassadors like Hillary Clinton. It's entirely possible some high profile American will be a warning in response.

Anonymous Bukulu December 19, 2016 12:02 PM  

Sillion @ #1:

GIYF.

Anonymous Bukulu December 19, 2016 12:06 PM  

Eric @ 6:

Secretly, and not-so-secretly too. Any sane person will have the occasional bout of Oh Just Get It The Fuck Over With now and then.

Blogger Agrijon December 19, 2016 12:08 PM  

What difference at this time does this make.

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 19, 2016 12:09 PM  

When Trump is confirmed today, what do you want to bet Obama tries to drag us into a Russo-Turkish war in order to keep control?

Blogger Seal Of Lion December 19, 2016 12:10 PM  

Well I'm going to check to make sure my bomb shelter is fully stocked....

Blogger Viisaus December 19, 2016 12:12 PM  

Back in 1829, angry Muslim mob lynched the Russian ambassador in Persia, who was a friend of the poet Alexander Puhskin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Griboyedov

"In the aftermath of the war and the humiliating Treaty of Turkmenchay, there was strong anti-Russian sentiment in Persia. Soon after Griboyedov's arrival in Tehran, a mob stormed the Russian embassy.

The incident began when an Armenian eunuch escaped from the harem of Persian shah, and two Armenian women escaped from that of his son-in-law. All three sought refuge at the Russian legation. As agreed in the Treaty of Turkmenchay, Georgians and Armenians living in Persia were permitted to return to Georgia and Eastern Armenia.[4] However, the Shah demanded that Griboyedov return the three. Griboyedov refused. This caused an uproar throughout the city and several thousand Persians encircled the Russian compound demanding their release.
Griboyedov then decided to offer to return the escaped eunuch and Armenian women. But it was too late. Moments later, urged on by the mullahs, the mob stormed the building."[5] A high ranking Muslim scholar with the title of Mojtahed, Mirza Masih Astarabadi known as Mirza Masih Mojtahed, issued a fatwa saying freeing Muslim women from the claws of unbelievers is allowed.[6]
Griboyedov and other members of his mission had prepared for a siege and sealed all the windows and doors. Armed and in full uniform, they were resolved to defend to the last drop of blood. Although small in number, the Cossack detachment assigned to protect the legation held off the mob for over an hour until finally being driven back to Griboyedov's office. There, Griboyedov and the Cossacks resisted until the mob broke through the roof of the building, and then through the ceiling, to slaughter them. The escaped eunuch and Griboyedov, who fought with his sword, were among the first to be shot to death; the fate of the two Armenian women remains unknown.[4][7] Second secretary of the mission Karl Adelung and, in particular, a young doctor whose name is not known, fought hard, but soon the scene was one of butchered, decapitated corpses.
Griboyedov's body, thrown from a window, was decapitated by a kebab vendor who displayed the head on his stall.[6] The mob dragged the uniformed corpse through the city's streets and bazaars, to cries of celebration. It was eventually abandoned on a garbage heap after three days of ill-treatment by the mob, such that in the end it could be identified only by a duelling injury to a finger. The following June, Griboyedov's friend Alexander Pushkin, travelling through the southern Caucasus, encountered some men from Teheran leading an oxcart. The men told Pushkin they were conveying the ambassador's remains to Tiflis (now Tbilisi). Griboyedov was buried there, in the monastery of St David (Mtatsminda Pantheon).[6]"

Blogger tz December 19, 2016 12:12 PM  

100 years ago it was an arch-duke assassination that caused WW1

Blogger Whisker biscuit December 19, 2016 12:12 PM  

So if Russia attacks Turkey from behind, would Greece help?

That's all folks!

Blogger Ingemar December 19, 2016 12:12 PM  

Constantinople to return to the Christians in 3... 2... 1...

Blogger Salt December 19, 2016 12:15 PM  

Now reported he died.

Blogger praetorian December 19, 2016 12:17 PM  

HAVE MEMES GONE TOO FAR?

Blogger rumpole5 December 19, 2016 12:18 PM  

If there is a war I certainly hope that the Turks get tossed out of Europe. Otherwise, this is not our problem or affair. Neither party has our best interests in mind.

Blogger SemiSpook37 December 19, 2016 12:22 PM  

Possibly related: the blood relic of San Gennaro (Saint Januarius) failed to liquefy on Friday (16 Dec, the anniversary of his patronage to Naples). Last time that didn't happen was 1980, which was considered a precursor to the Irpina earthquake. It should also be noted that it didn't liquefy in 1939 (start of WWII) or 1940 (Italy entered WWII), so there is some significance to this miracle.

I truly hope this isn't an omen for that, but then again, anything is possible.

Blogger Sam Lively December 19, 2016 12:23 PM  

@24

Sodom & Gomorrah.

Blogger VD December 19, 2016 12:27 PM  

Otherwise, this is not our problem or affair. Neither party has our best interests in mind.

It is as long as the USA is a member of NATO.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric December 19, 2016 12:28 PM  

Noah B The MacroAggressor wrote:Make Turkey Greece Again
Works better as Make Anatolia Greek Again.

Blogger Lew Rand December 19, 2016 12:28 PM  

I'm hoping Russia is patient enough to find out is this really ISIS related and if they had any help from any foreign services.

And to punish those truly responsible.

Hell drag em to the world court. (Yes I believe its a joke, but it would be a hell of a black knight op)

Anonymous trev006 December 19, 2016 12:50 PM  

Confirmed dead at RT.

Well, shit.

Anonymous Mark Dietzler December 19, 2016 12:51 PM  

I just watched a video of it, the Ambassador did not have a detail with him, the assassin just shoots the guy and stands there shouting for a good 30 seconds.

If Russia wants to blame someone, they can look in the mirror, you don't let VIPs go anywhere alone in that area of the world. You would not see the US Ambassador to Turkey give a speech somewhere without a PPD.

Anonymous Bigbadwolf December 19, 2016 12:52 PM  

I think that's a likely possibility. Putin hasn't exactly been eager for a third world war.

Anonymous yoppeh December 19, 2016 12:53 PM  

Say what you want about Putin, but he doesn't strike me as being the rash type.

Anonymous VFM #7916 December 19, 2016 12:58 PM  

@22

No bet.

Blogger Jonathan Bennett December 19, 2016 12:58 PM  

Looking at the few pictures and video of this, I can't help but notice the gunman's finger. Finger discipline is the mark of someone that has a clue how to handle a firearm. In the picture, his trigger finger is straight, just like he was trained. It will be interesting to find out who trained this guy. I wouldn't expect ISIS to drill finger discipline into their troops.

Blogger Anthony Fox December 19, 2016 1:00 PM  

How long until I can celebrate Mass in the Hagia Sophia?

Anonymous FP December 19, 2016 1:00 PM  

Just saw on WSA that @TurkeyUntold claims it was an Ankara police officer that shot the ambassador.

Blogger Lew Rand December 19, 2016 1:00 PM  

I hAve seen evidence he is a member of the equivalent of a SWAT unit in the Turkish police.

Thus his ability to enter the building armed using police ID.

(The last part is speculation on my part. The prior seems to be confirmed).

Blogger Assyrian Nationalist December 19, 2016 1:04 PM  

Eric the Red wrote:Time for Trump to recognize an independent Kurdistan including those parts of Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Time to punish Erdogan for his orthodox Mohammedanism and brinkmanship.

Let's not do that.

Anonymous Bodo December 19, 2016 1:07 PM  

@34 Looks like the shooter was the protection.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MohamedHemish/status/810905729804673024

Blogger Koanic December 19, 2016 1:09 PM  

Pretty sure Trump and Putin will divvy the bitches like gentleman pimps.

Both men have learned patience the hard way.

Blogger Nick S December 19, 2016 1:13 PM  

Curiouser and curiouser since the Nascent Sanhedrin openly asked Putin and Trump to work together to precipitate rebuilding the third temple. Interesting times indeed. I can't wait to see what happens next.

Blogger Rory Porth December 19, 2016 1:17 PM  

what youtube video was he mad at?

Anonymous kfg December 19, 2016 1:20 PM  

The last time I said it, even though I was really only talking about the European sector, the idea was met with a certain amount of consternation. Now the tide seems to have turned:

Next year in Constantinople.

"Works better as Make Anatolia Greek Again."

The Arabs for Arabia, the Turks for the Asian Steppe, although the latter might not be what Russia is looking for these days either. Well, there's always Mongolia.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 19, 2016 1:26 PM  

Huh.
I suppose it could get exciting, but what are the odds? I mean, we all know how laid-back the Russians are about things like this, and it's not like there are any extremists in Turkey or Syria who might take it the wrong way.

Blogger Sam Lively December 19, 2016 1:27 PM  

@36

Looks like the shooter WAS the detail. Stinks like a set-up for the ambassador.

Anonymous BluePony December 19, 2016 1:56 PM  

"Make Turkey Greece Again"

If they push him, Putin will make Turkey grease.

Blogger Joe Doakes December 19, 2016 2:00 PM  

When Obama said there would be severe consequences for hacking the DNC's emails, he wasn't kidding. Putin's just lucky Obama decided to settle for an ambassador; he could have HALO'd into Moscow and crawled into through sewers of the Kremlin to knife Putin personally and on Go-Pro video, the way he did Bid Laden.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 19, 2016 2:00 PM  

OT: a compilation of quotes from a very smart guy:
http://www.garretthardinsociety.org/info/quotes.html

He died in 2003, but we could republish his works now and they'd read like they were composed last night.

Blogger Unknown December 19, 2016 2:03 PM  

Anatoly Karlin's comment on that meme was great:

"One can always dream."

Blogger Jack Ward December 19, 2016 2:06 PM  

Just in case the Russian retaliation goes extreme, if I were Trump I would have my most trusted confidant on a jet to Moscow right now. Meet with Putin and ask him to wait until after Jan 20 to lower the hammer on Turkey. Let us get out of NATO first. Putin would probably go along. Hell, he would be ecstatic.

Blogger D. Bay December 19, 2016 2:08 PM  

Better quality video of assassination:

Russian Assassination Video

The "religion of peace" strikes again! What crap.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 19, 2016 2:10 PM  

It is Orthodox prophecy that Russia will destroy Turkey and return Asia Minor to Greece with Constantinople.

@2 Carlos Danger
I wouldn't put too much stock in that, unless there's a full-scale genocide of 70 million Muslim Turks.

Anonymous No December 19, 2016 2:10 PM  

@56 trump is putin's puppet, not the other way around

Blogger B.J. December 19, 2016 2:10 PM  

Who benefits from this? Not Turkey and certainly not Syria. This whole thing stinks.

If the media openly calls it a terror attack, you know the fix is in. They only call things terrorism when they aren't.

Blogger 罗臻 December 19, 2016 2:13 PM  

The chart of the Turkish ETF points to losses of more than 90 percent. I picked out Turkey as a potential hot spot in late 2015 based on this, and the forecast remains in effect. It might begin if Trump publicly asks, "Why is Turkey in NATO?"
2017 Will Be Worse for Turkey

Blogger VFM #7634 December 19, 2016 2:14 PM  

Meanwhile... it's happening, without a hitch:

By late Monday morning, six states won by Trump had already cast their electoral votes — Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Indiana, West Virginia and Mississippi — and all 46 went to Trump. Four Democrats in New Hampshire cast their votes for Hillary Clinton as well, as expected.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-electoral-college-win-democrats-infighting-232814

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 19, 2016 2:15 PM  

Looks like shooter was maybe part of security team, off-duty police. How can Turkey get this cleaned up with Russia. After the shoot down and "coup-attempt" I suspect Putin is looking for ways to retaliate. Any thoughts on what that may look like?

Blogger VFM #7634 December 19, 2016 2:16 PM  

And:

Already, there are six electors — five Democrats and one Republican — who insist they’re going to buck their party’s nominee on Monday. The most recent, David Bright of Maine, was reported by the Bangor Daily News to be casting his vote for Bernie Sanders.

Har har har. Hillary has more faithless electors than Trump.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 19, 2016 2:16 PM  

I wouldn't put too much stock in that, unless there's a full-scale genocide of 70 million Muslim Turks.

Sounds like a damn good start.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III December 19, 2016 2:17 PM  

"I wouldn't put too much stock in that, unless there's a full-scale genocide of 70 million Muslim Turks."

Deus Vult!!

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 19, 2016 2:17 PM  

I wouldn't put too much stock in that, unless there's a full-scale genocide of 70 million Muslim Turks.

Asia Minor is the land of genocide.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 19, 2016 2:19 PM  

Shooter with American ties maybe? Of course that would be terrorism. That would be the only acceptable narrative.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric December 19, 2016 2:22 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote:Shooter with American ties maybe? Of course that would be terrorism. That would be the only acceptable narrative.
I'm not sure Mevlut Mert Altintas is white enough to be a true terrorist in the eyes of the media. Maybe they'll call him a "white turk", kind of like they did with George Zimmerman?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook December 19, 2016 2:22 PM  

http://eaworldview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/RUSSIA-EMBASSY-ANTI-TURK-POSTER-680x365_c.jpg

pic very much related

Blogger Flyover Pilgrim December 19, 2016 2:23 PM  

@41 That would be "Divine Liturgy."
@2 It was St. Paisios.

Anonymous Hrw-500 December 19, 2016 2:28 PM  

@59 VFM#7634

I won't either, there's that video on Youtube who talk of that prophecy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQBVJUWUU5M&t=90s. It could be interesting to compare it with the prophecies of Baba vanga and Nicolaas (Siener) Van Rensburg.

Anonymous Man of the Atom December 19, 2016 2:29 PM  

Sarajevo, 1914. World has as many or more foreign entanglements (mutual defense pacts) as then.

How'd that work out for us?

Blogger Chris Mallory December 19, 2016 2:30 PM  

Of course it pushes Dreher into super cuck mode:

"I fear that we are in a clash of civilizations whether we want one or not. If liberal democracies in Europe cannot defend European security and liberty from Islamism and Islamic terrorism, Europeans may well choose governments and political systems that will. Voters among our European allies may soon be asking themselves who is more trustworthy on security issues: leaders in the Angela Merkel mold, or the Vladimir Putin one?" http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/jihadi-christendom-russia/

Blogger Doom December 19, 2016 2:42 PM  

One can hope this is part of the Brexit and Trumpeting. Besides, I want to see Turkey, or more Ergoden, or both if they have become the same, fall. If nothing else, some very cold days await them, and for a very long time. In giving up on being Western they have moved back to being feral.

Anonymous Ronnie speaks December 19, 2016 2:44 PM  

Not everything is false flag, you idiot.

Anonymous Daniel H December 19, 2016 2:44 PM  

Conveniently, the assassin himself was killed by the police. That's how an experienced hand does it my friends.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 19, 2016 2:57 PM  

They can't have this land in 0bamas lap. He's going to need to be a Syrian freedom fighter, I guess.

Anonymous Philipp December 19, 2016 2:57 PM  

Lorry ploughs into Berlin market. Unclear yet if it was an accident or a terror attack

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38373867

Anonymous Urban II December 19, 2016 2:59 PM  

Tenth Crusade.

Blogger Salt December 19, 2016 3:05 PM  

So what video caused the shooter to kill the Ambassador?

Anonymous Cheddarman December 19, 2016 3:06 PM  

The neocons and their big money puppet masters may still get their war with Russia.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 19, 2016 3:08 PM  

What was the Russian ambassador doing with an off duty Turkish cop in his inner security detail in the first place? Someone like that should be outer ring security only, out in the street keeping the door clear. The close in security should have been a Russian national. Russian Foreign Ministry security is probably going through a shakeup right now.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 19, 2016 3:13 PM  

What was an off duty Turkish cop doing that close to the principal? His job should have been in the outer security circle, watching the car or keeping the door clear. The Russian ambassador should have had a Russian national as his close in, inner security guard. For sure there is a shakeup happening in the Russian Foreign Ministry security service right about now .

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair December 19, 2016 3:15 PM  

"If Russia wants to blame someone, they can look in the mirror, you don't let VIPs go anywhere alone in that area of the world. You would not see the US Ambassador to Turkey give a speech somewhere without a PPD.
"

@36 EXACTLY! Just talked to a friend who guards Kerry. He had the same reaction as I did: what the hell were the Russians thinking?!?

Also, you have to appreciate the morbid humor here. Karlov was giving remarks on an art gallery of how the Turks view the Russians...and he gets offed by an off duty Turk police officer

Anonymous coyote December 19, 2016 3:18 PM  

Putin asked the security question a little while ago- his comments regarding his conversation with Ergodan, etc are extremely interesting: video on RT.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III December 19, 2016 3:22 PM  

Police saying Berlin truck/lorry deal looks like terror attack ("initial indications pointed to a terror attack")

Reporting 9 dead so far.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crashes-into-christmas-market

Anonymous Philipp December 19, 2016 3:37 PM  

Police in Berlin confirms 9 people dead, up to 50 people injured, driver of the truck on the run.

Blogger Chris Miles December 19, 2016 3:41 PM  

We all know what Putin is having for Christmas dinner

Anonymous Philipp December 19, 2016 3:42 PM  

According to a police spokesman, one person was found in the truck, most likely dead. Another arrest was made, possibly the driver.

(FYI: My comments are translated from German media).

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 19, 2016 3:47 PM  

Deplorable Gaiseric wrote:Noah B The MacroAggressor wrote:Make Turkey Greece Again

Works better as Make Anatolia Greek Again.


Hehe! This, for sure! Meme the hell out of this one.

Also, this could be a very good chance for Putin to rectify the mistakes of 1829 and 1877, when Russia stood close to enveloping Constantinople.

Western intervention (Britain, France, later Germany) helped reach deals and compromises.

Two takeaways - Putin is not a Tsar interested in "balance of power." "Western" political leaders are not always friends. Trump, at minimum, will hopefully turn a blind eye to what's about to happen.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III December 19, 2016 4:01 PM  

Putin has spoken...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGRZspUHg08

Anonymous TLM December 19, 2016 4:33 PM  

This is serious and could escalate. The Russians have a history of not f*cking around when it comes to diplomats etc. We did nothing in the 80's when LTC Higgins was kidnapped, tortured, & murdered. I believe the jihadis then kidnapped a KGB agent and they found the terrorists brother/ relative, some relation, and cut the guys ears or hands off I don't remember. But they quit messing with the Russians after that.

Anonymous Sixth largest island December 19, 2016 4:43 PM  

Altintas in Turkish means Goldrock --> Goldstein

Blogger Lazarus December 19, 2016 5:02 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote:Shooter with American ties maybe? Of course that would be terrorism. That would be the only acceptable narrative.

Debka reports he was part of the Al Nusra front. Al-Nusra created by the CIA and supported with US money.

Putin knows this, that is why he would like to know where the orders came from.
If he can prove CIA, that would be interesting.

Blogger tim December 19, 2016 5:11 PM  

Ha!

Anonymous Azimus December 19, 2016 5:13 PM  

TLM December 19, 2016 4:33 PM
This is serious and could escalate. The Russians have a history of not f*cking around when it comes to diplomats etc


Are ambassadorships taken more seriously in Russia than they are in the US? I.E., this guy was an actual diplomat and not a political crony/donor?

Anonymous BiigGayKoranBurner December 19, 2016 5:19 PM  

Sodom & Gomorrah NYC takes steps to make sure there are always at least 10 STR8 guys in Manhattan.

"I wouldn't put too much stock in that, unless there's a full-scale genocide of 70 million Muslim Turks."

Dear Vladimir Putin, If TRUMP doesn't pick up my "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than a Faggot" live game show would RT be interested in "Garrote Greater Groups of Moslems Than a Gay"? I might even be able to get my Armenian ex in on the deal.

Anonymous Loki7 December 19, 2016 5:33 PM  

One of the pics has a cop wearing blue jeans. Was it Casual Monday?

Anonymous RA December 19, 2016 5:33 PM  

Debka reports he was part of the Al Nusra front. Al-Nusra created by the CIA and supported with US money.

Putin knows this, that is why he would like to know where the orders came from.
If he can prove CIA, that would be interesting.

I've taken Debka's credibility to be not much better than the National Enquirer for years now. They get something right now and then, but one shouldn't automatically accept what they say.

That said, if the smoking gun CIA connection to the shooter was actually shown to be true, I wouldn't be too surprised.

For kicks, watch the recent Anonymous video regarding the electoral college coup conspiracy against Trump that was killed by the judges.

Blogger Kona Commuter December 19, 2016 5:46 PM  

Well, I for one am concerned. Twice in one year Turkey has killed Russian officials. The first was shooting down their bomber and now this.

NATO members need to seriously reconsider their membership.

Anonymous kfg December 19, 2016 6:48 PM  

" . . . credibility to be not much better than the National Enquirer . . ."

The National Enquirer has been put to the test more times than any other journal, and the last time I looked they had only failed to stand up to the test once, for publishing a single short paragraph taking a poke at Carol Burnett.

Which they had retracted at equal placement and length to the original "story" before Burnett filed suit.

I think if you look into to it you will find that although the Enquirer trades on the unsavory side of the "news," they have a more substantial record for credibility than any of the so called "real" news rags.

Blogger Skyler the Weird December 19, 2016 7:08 PM  

Make Istanbul Constantinople again.

Blogger Michael Deloatch December 19, 2016 7:11 PM  

have an eggroll mr goldstone

Anonymous Wyrd December 19, 2016 8:14 PM  

I can haz a birth record?

Blogger Ken Prescott December 19, 2016 8:24 PM  

If I remember my history classes correctly, we are now living in a "factors leading to" paragraph that precedes a chapter where the maps get covered in flags, arrows, and (in advanced courses) NATO operational graphics symbology.

Blogger Scott Birch December 19, 2016 10:53 PM  

Shot dead in a gallery. Edgy, but is it art?

Blogger Ken Prescott December 19, 2016 11:36 PM  

Scott Birch wrote:Shot dead in a gallery. Edgy, but is it art?

It's . . . (snort of derision) . . . derivative. (Sips pretentious wine)

Blogger theFirstMonkey December 20, 2016 1:11 AM  

This was an intended provocation on someone's behalf to cause some yuuuuge US MSM issue when the Russians flip out.....

...except that Russia is in the East. They know the games of would-be "sophisticates" better than Machiavelli. I would be very surprised if the shooter's family is still to be found? Russia knows how to get answers. And they don't have any "safe spaces" in Russia; in Russia you find only coldness, and the weather is quite chilly as well.

Anonymous Discard December 20, 2016 4:20 AM  

90. TLM: It was in Beirut in the 1980's. Some raghead killed a Soviet diplomat, and the Russians found out who did it and cut his brother's nuts off.

Blogger peter blandings December 20, 2016 7:29 AM  

somebody mentioned it at the beginning and i saw the same thing. what immediately jumped out at me when i saw the pic of the shooter (after the murder) his trigger finger is in the correct place for gun handling. that struck me as very odd. first, obviously the guy is trained, and not by terrorists. but considering the adrenalin factor and the knowledge that he's going to be dead in minutes or possibly seconds, is he really going to be exercising the discipline of proper gun safety techniques? i find that very hard to believe. something else is going on here. maybe he knows he's NOT going to be dead imminently. this is some kind of set-up. something's wrong with this picture.

Blogger wreckage December 20, 2016 7:34 AM  

@94 the cronyism is WHY Russia takes it more seriously. Russians do not like other people killing their cronies.

Blogger wreckage December 20, 2016 7:35 AM  

@108 would anyone be surprised if Erdogan had something to do with this? Spoiler: no.

Blogger peter blandings December 20, 2016 8:53 AM  

@110 yes, i would be surprised. erdogan was on his knees begging putin for forgiveness about the plane incident a year ago. why would he do a 180 now and pull this. the order came from a more obvious place. or less obvious if you think the u.s. is an honorable nation.

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