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Wednesday, December 14, 2016

Shut down the universities

Being fully converged, they are no longer fit for their original purpose of educating the sons of the elite.
The prestigious University of Oxford wants students to replace “she” and “he” with the more gender-neutral pronoun “ze.”

The university’s behavior code states that using the wrong pronoun for a transgender person is considered an offense, and a new leaflet distributed by the student union supposedly aims to cut down on hurt feelings and discrimination by encouraging students to use “ze” instead, the Independent reports.oxford

British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell applauded the move.

“It is a positive thing to not always emphasize gender divisions and barriers,” he told the Daily Mail.

“It is good to have gender-neutral pronouns for those who want them but it shouldn’t be compulsory,” Tatchell said. “This issue isn’t about being politically correct or censoring anyone. It’s about acknowledging the fact of changing gender identities and respecting people’s right to not define themselves as male or female.”

“Giving people the ‘ze’ option is a thoughtful, considerate move,” he said.

The change suggested by the Oxford’s student union follows a trend of schools moving toward more “gender inclusive” language to describe students who don’t want to be labeled male or female.

The University of Tennessee’s Office for Diversity and Inclusion issued a list of suggested gender-neutral pronouns for students that included “ze,” as well as other terms like “xe,” “hir,” “zir,” “xem,” and “wyr” to identify transgender students that created a public firestorm, The Tennessean reports.

Officials later removed the guidance from the university’s website amid the backlash, according to EAGnews.

In England, Cambridge University is also moving toward more “inclusive” language, and student welfare officer Sophie Buck told The Sunday Times student union events there “start with a speaker introducing themselves using a gender neutral pronoun.

“It’s part of a drive to make the union intersectional,” she said.
Remember, this is all entirely predictable. It is the Impossibility of Social Justice Convergence on display: No institution can effectively serve two different functions. The more an institution converges towards the highest abstract standard of social and distributive justice, the less it is able to perform its primary function.

From SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police:

The public schools can no longer educate, so people are turning to homeschooling. The universities can no longer provide liberal arts educations, so people are becoming technology-assisted autodidacts. The banks no longer loan, the state and local governments no longer provide basic public services, the military does not defend the borders, the newspapers no longer provide news, the television networks no longer entertain, and the corporations are increasingly unable to provide employment.

Even as the institutions have been invaded and coopted in the interests of social justice, they have been rendered unable to fulfill their primary functions. This is the great internal contradiction that the SJWs will never be able to positively resolve, just as the Soviet communists were never able to resolve the contradiction of socialist calculation that brought down their economy and their empire 69 years after Ludwig von Mises first pointed it out. One might call it the Impossibility of Social Justice Convergence; no man can serve two masters and no institution can effectively serve two different functions. The more an institution converges towards the highest abstract standard of social and distributive justice, the less it is able to perform its primary function.

There is no point trying to debate about what the purpose of a university is any longer. The public should stop funding them, their assets should be seized and distributed to the public, and new institutions will rise up to take their place. Nothing of value will be lost in the process, because they're already not educating anyone anyhow.

It's fascinating to see how quickly allowing women to attend the elite universities destroyed an institution that was centuries old. One would think someone, somewhere, would eventually notice that the same pattern is playing out again, and again, and again in a wide variety of institutions, from the men's clubs to the churches.

CORRECTION: Apparently the situation at Oxford is not QUITE as bad as the article makes it look. It's only the Oxford Student Union that has adopted this policy, not the entire university. So, it's about 3-5 years less converged than the article describes it.

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71 Comments:

Blogger James Dixon December 14, 2016 4:51 AM  

> The prestigious University of Oxford wants students to replace “she” and “he” with the more gender-neutral pronoun “ze.”

As I told Meredith, the only appropriate response is: "F*** ye".

Anonymous Icicle December 14, 2016 4:59 AM  

BEST AND BRIGHTEST!

Blogger Le Regardeur December 14, 2016 5:01 AM  

The article is inaccurate. This gender pronoun stuff is not being raised by Oxford or Cambridge Universities but by their students unions, e.g. Oxford University Students Union. I don't know whether students unions exist in American universities, but in English universities they are the equivalent of student representative bodies - all students are automatically members, the university funds them an amount per student but they are autonomous bodies. Most students, including at Oxford ignore the students union because it is so SJW converged that it has no relevance whatsoever for them. The 95%+ of students who can think of no bigger waste of time than to attend a students union meeting couldn't care less what rules are enunciated regarding gender pronouns.

In general European universities are much less SJW converged than U.S. universities, although it does vary by country and by quality of university. For example, in the past 20 years Irish universities have become much more SJW converged, wheras British universities haven't really changed. German, Swiss and Austrian universities are very non-SJW.

Anonymous Jordi December 14, 2016 5:04 AM  

Ann Coulter wrote a fantatic piece on it 2 years ago

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-01-28.html

It would be fantastic to have marxist academia reap what it sowed.

Blogger VD December 14, 2016 5:06 AM  

This gender pronoun stuff is not being raised by Oxford or Cambridge Universities but by their students unions, e.g. Oxford University Students Union.

In which case, they had better expel those students.

Blogger Reinhard Lohengramm December 14, 2016 5:19 AM  

In both universities (I have done degrees at both) the student unions are not only considered irrelevant by many but are actually unpopular. While I was at Oxford I think there was some move to try to get rid of the overall student union (OUSU) - because of the college system it actually does almost nothing. The college student unions perform what few useful functions these things provide. If such a motion had been attempted now I suspect it would have succeeded - in my day most people just didn't care enough about OUSU to go out and vote against it.

Both universities are more conservative than pretty much the rest of British academia. I don't know about the US, but certainly in Britain there is a steadfast correlation between University quality and conservatism. This is predicted by VD's principle of SJW convergence.

However, while there is less on the SJW-left in Oxford and Cambridge, they still have a wall on the Right that exists in all universities. I can't imagine there are any Western civic nationalist academics in any field there (unless there's a stray engineer or something else non-political), let alone alt-right.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 14, 2016 5:21 AM  

One would think someone, somewhere, would eventually notice that the same pattern is playing out again, and again, and again...

I wish someone would listen to this. It's like we're fighting waves of zombies, and no one believes it.

Blogger Sillon Bono December 14, 2016 5:27 AM  

Useless sacks of meat.

SJW like most forms of political cargo-cultism are completely unaware of their detachment to reality.

When the day of reckoning comes for them and they have a rope around their necks they are so stupid that they will be wondering what did they do wrong and why is the people hanging them upset.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 14, 2016 5:28 AM  

@8 When the day of reckoning comes for them and they have a rope around their necks they are so stupid that they will be wondering what did they do wrong and why is the people hanging them upset.

Hell yes.

Blogger Shimshon December 14, 2016 5:30 AM  

Spoken like the good Nazis zey are.

Blogger synp December 14, 2016 5:37 AM  

"...student union events there “start with a speaker introducing themselves using a gender neutral pronoun.""

Now if only English had a gender-neutral pronoun to introduce yourself with...

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid December 14, 2016 5:37 AM  

I'd be okay with "it" in the singular and perhaps "zit" in the plural.

Anonymous DJF December 14, 2016 5:44 AM  

"""""British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell applauded the move.

“It is a positive thing to not always emphasize gender divisions and barriers,” he told the Daily Mail."""""""

If ze is against dividing people by gender divisions why is ze defined as a gay rights activist? Both ze and the reporter need to be sent to reeducation camp.

Anonymous Steve Canyon December 14, 2016 5:49 AM  

"A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts. The point is that the process is reversible. Modern English, especially written English, is full of bad habits which spread by imitation and which can be avoided if one is willing to take the necessary trouble. If one gets rid of these habits one can think more clearly, and to think clearly is a necessary first step toward political regeneration: so that the fight against bad English is not frivolous and is not the exclusive concern of professional writers."

"Politics and the English Language" George Orwell, 1946.

It seems that the rot had started long before most of us graced the planet, and has progressed to the inculcation of the pidgin English of JarJar Binks.

Blogger Lovekraft December 14, 2016 5:54 AM  

Perhaps the latin phrase "reduxio ad absurdum" applies. The steady downward trend of absurdity and crudity, until the system corrects itself.

Blogger Lazarus December 14, 2016 5:55 AM  

Reinhard Lohengramm wrote:In both universities (I have done degrees at both) the student unions are not only considered irrelevant by many but are actually unpopular. While I was at Oxford I think there was some move to try to get rid of the overall student union (OUSU) - because of the college system it actually does almost nothing. The college student unions perform what few useful functions these things provide. If such a motion had been attempted now I suspect it would have succeeded - in my day most people just didn't care enough about OUSU to go out and vote against it.

When WAS your day? Men in wigs were not allowed in Women's toilets 2 years ago. Fungus spreads rapidly.

Blogger Sherwood family December 14, 2016 5:57 AM  

Useless meat-sacks indeed. As to shutting these kinds of institutions down: I am trying to think of ways that the average joe can help shut them down.
1) Don't send your own kids there.
2) Push congressmen to cut off public funds to universities in your area.
3) Do not allow your organization to sponsor or otherwise support scholarships or fundraisers for universities.
4) Push for special taxes on educational endowments like Harvard's.

Not sure what else one can do. Ideas?

Blogger Mighty Lou December 14, 2016 5:58 AM  

This new rule at Oxford seems to be less about making the miniscule percentage if trans-whatevers feel comfortable and more about punishing the rest of the students who don't conform to this insane PC double speak.

Blogger Days of Broken Arrows December 14, 2016 6:17 AM  

Funny you should write this today. I was just reading Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate" and was unpleasantly surprised to read about the protests that went on in the '70s against biologists who came out against the idea of humans being a born "blank slates." These profs were out-and-out slandered, their words and ideas distorted, and lectures shut down by protesters shouting and throwing water (?) on them.

What today's post and Pinker's book tell me is that universities are more about pushing belief systems than educating anyone. This is why I despised the few years of religious schooling I had. I don't need people dictating to me what I can say or believe.

The fact that administrators, not just student protesters, are doing this says to me it really is the end of the line for universities.

Anonymous Mister M December 14, 2016 6:32 AM  

I think it was on the J Rogan podcast with Jordan Peterson, where Peterson said "the University has left the university'. He's right. Getting what the University used to provide, one has to go online, read books, search somewhere for what used to be on campus. The Peterson / Rogan discussion is excellent - Peterson is refusing to cave to the SJW's and Canadian gov't on being forced to use the gender pronouns.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 14, 2016 6:40 AM  

Breast and Blightist.

Blogger Phillip George December 14, 2016 6:51 AM  

Theology s king of science.
Julian Assange got Trump elected.
All Britain is a crime scene. Habeas Corpus.
These trigger fingered snow flakes should secure their future.

If the Morlocks get away with his carcass everyone else's will follow. Everyone on that chain of command should be de personned.

Anyway it is mere insanity. The same people want to celebrate desexing and the "first woman" to do what was done long ago by some unsung ordinary male just doing his job.

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 14, 2016 6:56 AM  

Public funding should be the first and easiest thing to go after. It's not hard to point to the millions - billions of dollars these universities have in their endowment funds or point out the billions in private donations they receive.

It is going to be harder to get rid of them all together though. There are too many alumni not paying attention to what is happening on campus. They are loyal to their team and culturally they have associated themselves with the university they attended. Asking them to abandon their school would be akin to asking them to abandon any other club. It's not only fondness for their experiences there, they also view it as a networking asset that helps them find employment or make business deals etc. It's going to take a whole lot of public exposure of the ridiculous SJW shenanigans at their alma matter before they start to feel embarrassed of their association with the school rather than pride.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 14, 2016 6:56 AM  

It's only the Oxford Student Union that has adopted this policy, not the entire university. So, it's about 3-5 years less converged than the article describes it.

The biggest argument there is against sending your children to universities is no longer the officially sanctioned efforts at mindcontrol and political reeducation but the student body's own efforts towards these goals.

The students themselves have formed a collective hivemind. They are their own Thought Police at this point. Send your child into their arms and you will lose that child forever.

Anonymous rienzi December 14, 2016 7:02 AM  

Just how is the ordinary SJW supposed to identify these trans-creatures, as opposed to garden variety ugly men and women? Do they wear identifying signs? Are they rock stars on campus?

Imagine using the trans pronoun, only to find that the thing you are addressing is nothing more than the usual fat, sjw womyn. Horrors!
Instantaneous trip to the sjw gulag. SJW-ness is hard.

Anonymous Beau December 14, 2016 7:04 AM  

Psalm 2

1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.


Heavenly Father, I ask you to drive away like chaff before the wind those who shamelessly lie; perverted oracles, worthless dignitaries, covering their sins in darkness, saying, "No one sees us." Terrify them with your righteousness. Break them with a rod of iron. Bring their lies to a swift end.

Remove from the West the endless parade of lies and snares of the ctrl-left. Let them see their power is broken. Let all see. Let them know today is their time to repent and forsake their sins.

Let all acclaim the Heaven-born Prince of Peace risen with healing in his wings.

Blogger Ceerilan December 14, 2016 7:14 AM  

Forcing you to use the word "ze" effectively makes your dialect illegal. It ignores your native language rights.

Blogger Jack Morrow December 14, 2016 7:24 AM  

It's getting to be just as bad in Trudeaupia (formerly Canada):

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-jordan-peterson-a-real-professor-at-last

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/jordan-peterson-the-right-to-be-politically-incorrect

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-if-gender-identity-debate-at-u-of-t-was-about-free-speech-then-the-battle-is-truly-lost

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-ubc-prof-who-denounced-u-of-t-colleague-in-gender-debate-has-skeletons-in-her-own-classroom

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/marni-soupcoff-universities-lose-the-thread-on-reasoned-discourse

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-truth-is-universities-have-never-been-champions-of-free-speech

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-incident-behind-ryerson-anti-racism-protests-hardly-black-and-white

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/christie-blatchford-falling-victim-to-schools-obligatory-blah-blah-to-human-rights-a-classic-of-modern-canadian-university-soft-think

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-b-c-teacher-fired-for-having-the-wrong-opinion

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-posh-vancouver-school-places-staff-under-gag-order-after-teacher-fired

Blogger Salt December 14, 2016 7:47 AM  

“It is good to have gender-neutral pronouns for those who want them but it shouldn’t be compulsory,”

How would one know with whom to use such? Perhaps a symbol, readily identifiable, sewn onto their garments?

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 14, 2016 7:57 AM  

I can't wait for this to be declared transphobic because most transgenders use the pronoun associated with the gender they transitioned into.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 14, 2016 8:08 AM  

Only in an era of perceived unlimited resources could human organizations so turn from their intended purposes.

When this long illusion dispels, such counterproductive institutions will suffer the dinosaurs' fate.

Blogger Ken Prescott December 14, 2016 8:15 AM  

I propose the ultimate gender neutral pronoun: s/he/it, pronounced "She-yit."

Blogger daddynichol December 14, 2016 8:16 AM  

CORRECTION: Apparently the situation at Oxford is not QUITE as bad as the article makes it look. It's only the Oxford Student Union that has adopted this policy, not the entire university.

Entryism.

Blogger praetorian December 14, 2016 8:34 AM  

This is fantastic black knighting material.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 14, 2016 8:47 AM  

What do the other darlings of the Left, the muslims think of this pronoun silliness?

The Left should police itself

Blogger Sillon Bono December 14, 2016 8:48 AM  

@29

“It is good to have gender-neutral pronouns for those who want them but it shouldn’t be compulsory,”

How would one know with whom to use such? Perhaps a symbol, readily identifiable, sewn onto their garments?


I see what you did here, Harambe nods in approval.

Praise KEK!

Anonymous RabidRatel December 14, 2016 8:53 AM  

Salt wrote:Perhaps a symbol, readily identifiable, sewn onto their garments?

I prefer a nose ring, the type you use on a bull. It will serve a dual purpose, allowing you to identify the gender-confused, as well as giving a new meaning to "leading around by the nose". What is not to like?

Blogger Johnny December 14, 2016 8:59 AM  

The universities could be done in, but it would require the power of the state to do it. As it is the social sciences that are problem the focus would be there. The method would be to kill the status of the graduates by completing what they have already started. That would be turning them into full bore seminaries.

See Alinsky for the methods. In a hundred different ways make them live up to their own doctrines. Make the scholarly community live up to their own race and sex norming ideas. Dramatically increase the exposure to poor people, perhaps with outreach programs. Hold them to account as racist if minority groups do less well. Treat every difference as racist or sexist or whatever. And do that on all levels, undergraduate, graduate, and so on.

In other words, finish the job they have already started, which is making the place a screwed up mess.

Blogger Elkanah Haon December 14, 2016 9:04 AM  

Disgusting idiocy, of course. But disappointed to see Peter Tatchell supporting this. He's a far-left 'gay rights' crusader BUT of the old school, and old enough to have been such at a time when that actually took some guts and required one to face genuine threats of physical violence - and in fairness to him he did put his body on the line for his cause, back in the day; even rushing Robert Mugabe in an attempt to put him under "citizen's arrest".

In recent years he's assumed the same kind of role as Germaine Greer or Camille Paglia - a veteran 'sexual politics' campaigner who has been openly critical of the madness of their younger millenial successors and defended the right of their oponents to express their opinions.

For example he's spoken unequivocally in support of Christian bakers in Northern Ireland who have been sued, dragged through the courts, and lost over their right to refuse obnoxious politically motivated orders by homosexuals due to their faith. So to see him nodding along with this transgender pronoun nonsense is a bit surprising.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 14, 2016 9:20 AM  

My only thought on these stories of converged organizations considering a further dive into SJW nonsense is one I learned from campaign memes: "Do it, faggots."

Blogger pyrrhus December 14, 2016 9:23 AM  

I just reread Kornbluth's story about this future, 'The Marching Morons.'

Anonymous MendoScot December 14, 2016 9:33 AM  

What the non-Brits here might be missing is that both the OSU and CSU are stepping stones into national politics. This is where the next generation of leaders is being incubated. This is what is coming down the road.

30 years ago I could see what was coming for precisely this reason, and decided to leave the UK.

Blogger pyrrhus December 14, 2016 9:46 AM  

Eastern Michigan U.--http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/11/this-taxpayer-funded-university-schemes-to-make-every-major-teach-black-studies/

Blogger jaericho December 14, 2016 9:51 AM  

Nearly a thousand years old, outlasting some civilizations on the American continents and it's nearly brought down in a couple decades of SJWism.

This is madness.

Anonymous Philalethes December 14, 2016 10:22 AM  

Some 40 years ago I came across a proposal (in a prospectus for an intentional community in New Zealand, and by a woman) to use the pronoun e-es-em in cases where gender is indeterminate (where English traditionally uses he). Made sense to me, and as the one complaint I've heard where I must acknowledge the feminists have a point, I've been using it since.

Occurs to me this pronoun would be appropriate for the "transgendered", as these unfortunate, deluded people have in most cases surgically removed their genitalia, so in fact they have no sex at all. That the pronoun e-es-em is formed by removing the sex-identifying portion of the regular pronouns seems fitting.

(Hmm. Couldn't post a comment in Brave or in Safari; had to go to Chrome. Blogger needs a little updating?)

Anonymous M. December 14, 2016 10:52 AM  

"...in English universities [student unions] are the equivalent of student representative bodies - all students are automatically members, the university funds them an amount per student but they are autonomous bodies. Most students... ignore the students union because ...it has no relevance whatsoever for them."

I've heard that Australian universities are no longer permitted to fund the union without a student's permission, and I don't recall seeing quite so much madness coming from Australian campuses. Perhaps this is an effective way to fight back in the UK: force the student unions to justify their funding to the people who are actually funding them, i.e. the students. Or the taxpayers.

"It's fascinating to see how quickly allowing women to attend the elite universities destroyed an institution that was centuries old. One would think someone, somewhere, would eventually notice that the same pattern is playing out again, and again, and again in a wide variety of institutions, from the men's clubs to the churches."

Is that a cause or a symptom of something else? And where would I go to read more on that topic?

Blogger Undocumented Pharmacist December 14, 2016 10:53 AM  

For example he's spoken unequivocally in support of Christian bakers in Northern Ireland who have been sued, dragged through the courts, and lost over their right to refuse obnoxious politically motivated orders by homosexuals due to their faith.

For these cases, I would just bake the cake, take the money and avoid the hassle. It's just that the cake may not taste great, even though it looks perfectly fine. Maybe I just use a little less sugar, or chocolate or whatever. Not every cake is gonna be great after all. Its edible, just not delicious. Don't care if they never even taste it. It wasn't about the cake anyway was it. This is not the hill you want to die on.

Anonymous John VI December 14, 2016 11:03 AM  

This isn't done to aid the transgendered. Nor any group the SJWs are purporting to help.

It is done so the SJWs can preen about their superior morality and give them good feels about their brave actions. If it didn't give them feels they wouldn't do it for anyone. It is a purely selfish activity by the SJWs and it serves no purpose beyond that. They attack others for not following their rules for the same reason. Feels. That's it. They will move from group to group finding reasons to elevate their plight simply because they are incapable of seeing beyond their feels. They are almost literally zombies including this regard. Shambling about from "victim" to "victim" desperate to feed their feels since they are hollow people that have never learned to function with their reason or logic in charge.

Blogger Reinhard Lohengramm December 14, 2016 11:04 AM  

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Blogger Reinhard Lohengramm December 14, 2016 11:08 AM  

Lazarus wrote:When WAS your day? Men in wigs were not allowed in Women's toilets 2 years ago. Fungus spreads rapidly.

Not that long ago, but good point. However, even if they have moved left in actual policy positions, I think that the resentment against the left will probably have increased. SJWism wasn't really a known thing until my last year there.

Anonymous ogunsiron December 14, 2016 11:20 AM  

Le Regardeur wrote:The article is inaccurate. This gender pronoun stuff is not being raised by Oxford or Cambridge Universities but by their students unions, e.g. Oxford University Students Union. I don't know whether students unions exist in American universities, but in English universities they are the equivalent of student representative bodies - all students are automatically members, the university funds them an amount per student ...

In general European universities are much less SJW converged than U.S. universities, although it does vary by country and by quality of university. ... German, Swiss and Austrian universities are very non-SJW.


I don't know if that's still possible but when I attended a canadian university, each student could opt out of paying for the student union. I opted out.

Any reason why the universities in the german world are still SJW free ? Is it because there is still a tradition of rightwing intellectualism there ?

I know that in France, the situation is such that there are whole universities that are known to be leftwing or rightwing.

I've heard awesome things about rightwing student clubs in the austrian universities (Men duelling with actual swords and stuff like that!)

Blogger tz December 14, 2016 11:22 AM  

ESR finds the Democrat party converged
Bit doesn't realize his Rx can't work.

Anonymous Poppa December 14, 2016 11:24 AM  

Comment wouldn't post from Pale Moon. Let's try with IE.

"...in English universities [student unions] are the equivalent of student representative bodies - all students are automatically members, the university funds them an amount per student but they are autonomous bodies. Most students... ignore the students union because ...it has no relevance whatsoever for them."

I've heard that Australian universities are no longer permitted to fund the union without a student's permission, and I don't recall seeing quite so much madness coming from Australian campuses. Perhaps this is an effective way to fight back in the UK: force the student unions to justify their funding to the people who are actually funding them, i.e. the students. Or the taxpayers.

"It's fascinating to see how quickly allowing women to attend the elite universities destroyed an institution that was centuries old. One would think someone, somewhere, would eventually notice that the same pattern is playing out again, and again, and again in a wide variety of institutions, from the men's clubs to the churches."

Is that a cause or a symptom of something else? And where would I go to read more on that topic?

Anonymous BBGKB December 14, 2016 11:38 AM  

I propose the ultimate gender neutral pronoun: s/he/it, pronounced "She-yit."

We can already use IT for it.

Blogger justaguy December 14, 2016 11:40 AM  

Cut the government stranglehold on the university through research money. How much of the academic career is controlled by the need to receive government grant funds? Government funding is likely the major reason higher research went off the rails and is no longer useful. End it-- let the market fund research as it needs and see what happens.

Blogger JRR December 14, 2016 11:46 AM  

I will give their wish and use nonstandard pronouns. I will use, he, she, and deranged idiot.

Blogger Servant December 14, 2016 12:34 PM  

Oh man I thought he was one of the good ones.

Silly how many stories we read about refugees raping and people being surprised that stupidity/betrayal from Sodomites would surprise us.

Frog, meet scorpion.

Blogger tz December 14, 2016 1:12 PM  

Steven King's "It" was a tranny?

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 14, 2016 1:15 PM  

There is no point trying to debate about what the purpose of a university is any longer.

I'm not convinced anyone had a clear vision of this in the first place.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 14, 2016 1:16 PM  

tz wrote:Steven King's "It" was a tranny?

There is something similar about trannies and clowns, maybe it's the combination of makeup and the uncanny valley.

Anonymous Andrew December 14, 2016 2:01 PM  

If Trump brings back jobs that don't require University education, and actually stops illegal immigration - that could be a massive blow.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative December 14, 2016 2:36 PM  

Defund the humanities and social science departments. Everything outside of STEM is corrupted beyond redemption with SJWs and PC Marxists. People getting degrees in that politicized bullshit do no good for society. Bankers and professional leftists are the only ones who profit.

Online alternatives are starting to appear, but we should accelerate the process. Maybe use the SJWs tools against them. Use the EEOC against employers that don't hire enough online certificate holders? Surely there's disparate impact - less poor and minorities can afford college. So there's already a precedent in place for doing this. Something along those lines. If the left opposes it, just ask "why do you hate minorities? Why are you helping bankers prey on helpless minorities?"

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 14, 2016 10:37 PM  

Exactly.

Anonymous JS December 14, 2016 11:19 PM  

I have shared this with Steve Sailer and posted in comments, but the answer lies in the DoE's financial aid to students and Title IX. White privilege is overtly racist material that can be found proliferating syllabi. The syllabus represents a legal contract between the school, professor and student with respect to the course. The discrimination laws are already in place and an equal reading of them is all that is needed to cut a several hundred billion dollar annual chunk out of the post-secondary education system.

Anonymous JS December 14, 2016 11:26 PM  

I will add that the problem is much worse than anyone appreciates. You might believe that the cancer is only in the humanities, but STEM can also fall under the college of arts and sciences and its administrators. The administration at all of the post secondary institutions is toxic and will actively align with instructors and senior faculty to cover their tracks even when they have clearly violated clear policies.

What's even worse is the fact that almost all of the legal field is cuckolded and something approximating 100% of the political science graduates have been pozzed with progressive indoctrination. Trump is a short game victory, but the long game is looking bad unless extraordinary surgery is done to course correct.

Blogger Carl Burgeson December 15, 2016 2:20 AM  

Ridiculous. A person is either born a man or a woman. Binary solution set.

Blogger Carl Burgeson December 15, 2016 2:21 AM  

Ridiculous. A person is either born a man or a woman. Binary solution set.

Anonymous Brian Brain December 15, 2016 6:45 AM  

I attended one of the two universities being disparaged here. It was a couple of decades ago, but things haven't changed that fast. Particularly at Oxford and Cambridge.

The article is describing OUSU, and there is a quote at the end from someone representing CUSU. These are the two respective Student Unions. Student Unions are largely ignored by most students in the UK. It's not unusual to have a 5% - 10% turnout for Student Union elections and that's why you see such crazy politics coming out of them. They represent a tiny fraction of very weird politically active students.

And that's SUs at normal universities in the UK. Oxford and Cambridge are both collegiate universities. You are a member of your college, your faculty, and the wider university. The colleges are financially independent institutions and are the main defining feature in the life of the student. The SU doesn't even have a building at Oxford or Cambridge.

So at Oxford and Cambridge the main avenue for student politics relevant to the lives of the students is through the colleges. The colleges tend to be pretty far to the right of the SU, and it's not unusual for the traditional right wing colleges (Oriel, Peterhouse, Christ Church, Trinity, etc) to be unaffiliated to the SU for years at a time.

The idea that Oxford or Cambridge are American-style havens of campus insanity is laughable nonsense.

Anonymous Brian Brain December 15, 2016 6:50 AM  

Also @42... the OUSU and CUSU are NOT stepping stones into UK politics.

The Oxford UNION and the Cambridge UNION are debating societies and ARE stepping stones into UK politics. Look at the list of former presidents of both. But those two private clubs are not in any way related to OUSU and CUSU and in fact predate them by about 150 years.

Anonymous Pennywise December 15, 2016 9:06 AM  

The universities aren't going to be shut down, nor are public schools going to be decimated by the home schooling movement. Parents make their own educational decisions for their children. Whole scale convergence is another Fake News Story.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 16, 2016 12:55 PM  

I can't quite summon a single fuck to give over Oxford or Cambridge.

However, in the US, no student aid, neither loans nor grants nor guarantees, should be given to any student to pay for attendance, books or lab fees, or living expenses at any school, public or private, that infringes the right of free speech, to include attempted linguistic matricide in the form of mandatory PC-speech, bearing of arms, or provides safe spaces from which other students are barred based on their race, creed (except for Islam, of course) or color, or fails to give equal protection and opportunity in admissions to anyone based on those criteria (that means no more affirmative action).

I wonder what percent of school would go under before the rest wised up. I wonder how many lefty profs would spontaneously combust or otherwise die.

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