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Wednesday, December 21, 2016

The First Act of WWIII

The great invasion of the 21st century is the first act of World War III, aided and abetted by the so-called leaders of the West. A powerful condemnation by the Dark Triad Man.
The skyrocketing instances of violent rape of Western women is a systematic, inherent method of Islamic war. This is brutally and unmistakably clear to all three parties involved in this fatally serious assault upon Western civilization.

It is clear to the invaders who deliver this infliction of sexual atrocity with deliberate and designed methodology. From the rape cages of Raqqa in the heart of the Islamic State to the formal pronouncements of Islamic leaders, it is clear that this is a design of intent.

It is foolish and stupid to pretend otherwise.

Insistence on illusion is obtuse in daily life. During time of existential war and in the face of declared mortal enemies it is both suicidal and castratingly idiotic.

It is clear to the leaders of the West who deny and spin and refuse to acknowledge the rising tide of civilization’s clash. They demand that social media outlets engage in active censorship of news and discussion of this horrific and cruel strategy. They ridiculously deny the reality that is both declared and evident.

It is unforgivable and strips them of all moral and practical authority to lead.

Their public proclamations of tolerance are bitterly degrading and empty.

It is unmistakably clear to the people of the West.

The people of the West have seen the horrific and murderous insanity of cruel invaders armed with battle rifles and explosives, butchering their way through theaters and schools and leaving behind a grotesque tapestry of blood and screaming cries to Allah.

The people of the West have seen their buildings driven into the ground in a rain of bodies and fire, the heart of our cities torn out and destroyed with foul and hideously indiscriminate murder by their mortal and terrible enemies.

The people of the West have seen the forbidding and malevolent evil of the soldiers of Islam beheading multitudes of martyrs on the beach, and aiming bloody knives at the heart of Rome while declaring that blood will run in the streets of the holy city.

The people of the West have seen children detonated with bombs and excruciatingly rutted to death by the befouled, savage followers of Mohammed. And today those legions of rapacious ideological sadists rampage unopposed through the streets of the ancient cities of the Rhine.

If you do not believe war is here today, you are blind.

If you refuse to accept that this war is existential for the West, you will die.
What are you doing to turn the tide? What are you doing to win this war? And if you're not willing to fight for the survival of the West, for the survival of your nation, who will?

Do you think you will be safe because you don't live in New York City, in San Bernadino, in St. Cloud, in Nice, or in Berlin?

You won't be.


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123 Comments:

Anonymous Icicle December 21, 2016 5:25 AM  

Deus vult!

Blogger Stilicho December 21, 2016 5:43 AM  

Among other things,I teach my fellow Americans to shoot and allow them to obtain ccw permits. There are thousands of little things one can do from simply asking questions about the invaders during polite conversations at work which may awake some colleagues to the threat, to driving home a rhetorical shiv when the inevitable SJW makes the inevitable stupid anti-western, pro-invasion comment (e.g. "Immigration wouldn't be as bad if they'd just culturally appropriate western plumbing"... much laughter ensued Btw and the SJW nearly cried and did run away).

Every little bit helps.

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes December 21, 2016 5:49 AM  

Terrorism only threatens the will of the target. To actually kill lots of people, and so truly make things "unsafe" for general members of the public like me, for that, you need war.

I don't see us at all close to war. Instead, we're just going to see terrorism at roughly the levels we see it today.

The terrorism rate is limited by the number of available terrorists. And that's roughly comparable to the natural suicide rate of the population. The terrorists can't exceed that rate; this is why you don't see an exponential increase in terrorism over the last year or so.

War is completely different. In war, the State forces the population to die for the cause. War is not limited by the population's natural suicide rate. This is why war kills millions while terrorism only kills thousands. Terrorism is rhetoric, it's about emotion, war (and demographics) is dialectic.

Blogger Felix Bellator December 21, 2016 5:58 AM  

States are not the only ones who go to war. Nations also go to war with far more decisive outcomes than States.

Blogger Felix Bellator December 21, 2016 5:59 AM  

Terrorism is 4G warfare.

Blogger Daniel December 21, 2016 6:01 AM  

Terrorism is the tip of the iceberg in the current stste of events

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 21, 2016 6:04 AM  

You know what I tire of hearing?

"Civil war is coming."

Civil war is HERE. It is already being fought. Complacency prevents people from realizing that we are already fighting, and losing, We have taken losses, dead soldiers, Policemen shot down in cold blood, children being stolen and sold into sexual slavery, infants torn from the womb and murdered, Our great cultural icons destroyed or hidden, even our written works being expunged.

Our culture has been disintegrating as enemy agents disrupt it. We look at these people as fools, as tools, as crybabies... They are not. They are enemies, enemy soldiers. They are willing to murder us to support their cult, and many of them have done so.

You can see them by their evil... Every person who supports murdering infants is a stone-cold killer, an enemy soldier. Every person that tears families apart in the interests of irresponsibility, every person that tries to turn you into a slave by claiming that 'minority rights' are more worthy than yours, Every person that 'fights' by calling the authoritarian bullies to support their right to sodomize your children. They would see you dead.

Do not be fooled by their history, their skin color being the same as yours, by the camouflage of seeming to represent you... Their goal is nothing less than the utter and total eradication of your genes, your future, your family, your culture, and your nation. Even if they are from your own family, they are your enemies. They may be a fool or a tool, but a grenade wielded by a child can be just as deadly as one thrown by a soldier.

They are evil, and the civil war is already raging. You need to fight it with every tool you have available, or die. If that means cutting yourself off from the 'progressives' in your family, you do it... it is not about opinions, it is about giving aid and succor to serial killers. they are practicing every form of evil and degradation known to man, how can you forgive them just because 'they are family'?

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 21, 2016 6:09 AM  

@3 An inaccurate theory of war, which has existed for far longer than the modern state. The key purpose of the state is organization for war, so that a people may better defend itself.

An easy counterexample: the Rwanda massacres of the mid-90s. Plenty of war, no state organization.

If war is necessary and the state refuses to provide for the common defense - or even worse, if the state assists invaders in waging war on its people - then the people will organize themselves as best as they can and war will proceed in a less organized, yet more historically familiar context.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 6:42 AM  

Leftist enabler: "Nothing to see here, now move along."

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 6:43 AM  

Leftist enabler: "Nothing to see here, now move along."

Blogger SteelPalm December 21, 2016 6:48 AM  

Question for Vox.

How far do you propose taking the war? Merely driving out the jihadi invaders from Western lands? Or directly taking the fight into their own Death Cult nations as well?

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 21, 2016 6:52 AM  

JustAnotherPairOfEyes wrote:Terrorism only threatens the will of the target. To actually kill lots of people, and so truly make things "unsafe" for general members of the public like me, for that, you need war.

I don't see us at all close to war. Instead, we're just going to see terrorism at roughly the levels we see it today.

The terrorism rate is limited by the number of available terrorists. And that's roughly comparable to the natural suicide rate of the population. The terrorists can't exceed that rate; this is why you don't see an exponential increase in terrorism over the last year or so.

War is completely different. In war, the State forces the population to die for the cause. War is not limited by the population's natural suicide rate. This is why war kills millions while terrorism only kills thousands. Terrorism is rhetoric, it's about emotion, war (and demographics) is dialectic.



You are probably also believe that mass immigration is not invasion. The Mohammedans have been waging a war against the west since their inception. Only sometimes have they resorted to naked all out aggression and usually only after the enemy land is weakened and divided by converting a sizable portion of their population to Islam through immigration.

You claim to understand war. You can go back to feudal or even biblical examples, what is the best way to conquer a fortress? Having people inside the fortress helping you.

This is the same concept except writ large involving a nation rather than just a city or fortification.

Blogger Boko Harambe December 21, 2016 6:54 AM  

@ 10 Steel Palm, idk about Vox but Crusades 3.0 (or are we up to higher increments?) sounds good to me. Nits make lice. Burn the whole plague of vermin out. However, that violates the right of people to live as they see fit, in their own lands.

So, driving them out of ours sounds like the sufficient answer.

Blogger Unknown December 21, 2016 7:01 AM  

War is completely different. In war, the State forces the population to die for the cause.

You are clueless. And historically illiterate.

Blogger Boko Harambe December 21, 2016 7:05 AM  

I'm re-reading a historical/fantasy series set in the time of the Saxon invasion of Britain. The descriptions of simple folk who merely want their lands and traditions back, to not see their lives left in ruins by the raping, pillaging Saxon hordes invited by Vortigern, and of the armies raised from the people who needed merely a leader to see them to victory, it's somewhat rousing.

Yes, and all very romantic, I understand that. But romance in the traditional sense does not arise in a vacuum or from the idle dreams of restlessness. Something is brewing that will take us to the brink. You can keep what you can hold. For too lmuch no we've been told we hold nothing, for it was all taken without legitimate claim, and therefore our penance* is to allow others to conquer us.

*penance is an evolved and Christian concept. Interesting that Churchians and SJWs who eschew the notion of wrongdoing nevertheless assign long term wearing of sack cloth and ashes to their enemies. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Blogger Phillip George December 21, 2016 7:17 AM  

The fabulous thing about the truck attack is that there is now a "man hunt underway". That's to bring the offender to justice.

They want to the driver to come to trial. Swear an oath. Solemnly tell the judge what really happened. Can you see how crazy that is?

A system of law has been designed for civilised compos men 'tis adults.
You want to take non uniformed combatants operating behind enemy lines and get them to swear to tell the truth. And reform them in a prison that respects them?

The legal systems of Europe were built by and for Christians. They are not military courts.
Your thinking has to change at a fundamental level.
Civility and civic insititutes are for the civilised. Babies, cannibals, and the bat shit crazy are not juridical persons.

Anonymous Jay Will December 21, 2016 7:20 AM  

What dark triad fails to mention is western foreign policy. Lets put the shoe on the other foot. How would patriotic Americans respond to another country or group of war mongerers "freeing" you from your dictators and killing hundreds of thousands in the process.Using an international lie factory to weave narratives defending it. You'd want a genocidal rage to be unleashed on them wouldn't you?

This isn't about siding with Muslims its about establishing the truth. They blow them up over there, then send them over here. The war mongerers want war with Islam but are pretending that its the religion of peace so they can plausibly deny they are behind it all. WE are expected to respond, driven there by their strategy, and they will act as if they really tried to make it work but the people chose Hitler again. Hence they plead for tolerance while scheming for war behind closed doors.

Its not shitlib delusion its deliberate strategy to create the conditions for war that can be exploited. Are you seriously telling me this is to be explained by elite error? That western leaders and their ginormous apparatus of power have just made a mistake? That is nonsense, immivasion is a strategic weapon of evil by evil people.

Europe is due for a huge cull. That is the correct word and how THEY see it.



Anonymous John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project (now on kindle) December 21, 2016 7:21 AM  

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a White homogeneous nation must be in want of diversity.

However little known the feelings or views of such a nation when diversity first enters its neighborhood, this truth is so fixed in the minds of the browner tribes, that this White nation is considered the rightful property of some one or all of their dusky sons.

“My dear Mr. Singnet,” said his wife to him one day, “have you heard that Germany is a rich distant nation full of White people?”

Mr. Singnet replied that he had not.

“But it is,” she replied, “for Ahmed the clockmaker’s son has just returned from jihad, and his mum told me all about it.”

Mr. Singnet made no answer, but sullenly rubbed his burgeoning tool.

“Do you not want to know what sort of eloi infidels occupy it?” cried his wife in an impatiently guttural flood of ululations.

“Aloha snack bar,” grumbled the retired civil engineer.

This was invitation enough.

“Why, my dear, you must know, Mrs. Muhammad says it’s full of unescorted blonde-headed nine year olds, twins some of them, just like in Mr. Allen’s pictures, and with a large fortune of recessive genes for us to paw off our exotic duskiness upon, and a pile of ill-gotten gains stole off the backs of the Turd World, like calculus and the Symphonies of Beethoven!”

Anonymous MIG December 21, 2016 7:22 AM  

OT
Trump's latest tweet:
"Yes, it is true - Carlos Slim, the great businessman from Mexico, called me about getting together for a meeting. We met, HE IS A GREAT GUY!"

What's behind it?

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 7:27 AM  

The Church Militant needs to come alive. I am researching this issue as it arose during the earlier Mohammedan invasions of Europe, and the Catholic Church's associated call to arms. That it does not do so today means that either the Church is wrong now, or the Church was wrong then. If the latter, then I will abandon it with no regrets.

The more troubling question is, does Christianity itself provide any theological basis for its own defense via force of arms? If not, then I must consider abandoning it as well.

Anonymous Euryale December 21, 2016 7:27 AM  

France is indeed one of the key sites of this war.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit December 21, 2016 7:29 AM  

Living in EUrostan, I discuss each mooslim massacre with my family making sure they know who the aggressors are and how they are incompatible with our civilization. Risking ostracism, I refuse to let it pass when friends and colleges screech, "Not all mooslims!" and explain the barbarous ideology and why, yes all mooslims want to kill or enslave us. I teach my son to be wary in public places, to be on the look out for bearded gunmen and "trucks of peace" and I explain to my daughter the ways of the mooslim grooming gangs.

I refuse to light a candle and say a prayer after each massacre but I cross myself when passing the burka clad ninjas in the street and play Christian hymns loudly when the layabout mooslims gather beneath my balcony to gabber in their ugly, guttural tongue.

I wish I could do more but EUrostan favors the invaders and has disarmed the native populace.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 21, 2016 7:33 AM  

"What are you doing to turn the tide?"

I sent a strongly worded letter to Paul Ryan about this issue just a few months ago. I told him in no uncertain terms that someone needs to do something!

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 7:33 AM  

@7 "infants torn from the womb and murdered"

This (oh-so-rhetorical) position is going to be an ongoing problem in this "war." I am just as vitriol-filled and furious about the immvaders, rapefugees, and traitors in our nation and the intentional destruction of our people (rhetoric); and just as much "working to teach my friends and neighbors some basics of survivalism and helping them get guns and permits" (dialectic) as any Alt Righter. (And maybe more than some!)

But you folks who want to "fight the abortion wars" again are DILUTING any chance we have to save this nation! If you want to create a Christian theocracy, you are going to lose a lot of support -- including mine. I do support that (overall) Christianity is an important basis to our nation of White Euro-derived peoples. I absolutely support the 16 points. But forcing your Christian stands and beliefs on EVERYONE in this nation because you believe them fervently? Do I, then, become your enemy?

I do not agree with the "oh the murdered babies -- they are MORE important than saving this nation, our people.” Stopping abortion is flat-out UN-important in this war to save this nation! (Ever heard of triage?)

There is no chance that our White Euro-derived peoples will "out-breed" our enemies: not blacks, not mexicans/SAmericans, not moslems. We cannot "out-breed" ANY race or nation! Would you have us BECOME them!?! Women as brood-mares, rather than K-selected helpmeets to our husbands and as protective parents raising few but important children? Sign me OUT for that!

"While Black women account for 13 percent of the female population, they accounted for 30 percent of all abortions." "CDC: For whites, there were 152,673 abortions, or 37.6% of the total. ... yet 55.4% of the abortion reported by race were of black and Hispanic babies." "black women still have higher rates of abortion even when controlling for income, according to a 2008 report." "In 2013, births far surpassed abortions for white, Hispanic and Asian/Pacific Islander women. ... In 2013, black women in New York state gave birth to 36,130 babies and underwent 34,960 abortions, according to the state's health department." "69% of pregnancies among Blacks are unintended, while that number is 54% among Hispanics and 40% of pregnancies among Whites." "White women had 39 percent of abortions, black women had 28 percent, Hispanic women had 25 percent..."

These are numbers to cheer, not fight against! Do NOT interfere when your enemies are making a mistake!

I'm sorry that 39 percent of abortions were done on White women -- *IF* our nation were not so fucked up, some of those women/families might have decided/been able to have those babies. But it IS so fucked up, and so they cannot have a houseful of babies they CANNOT RAISE! (Stop being "r" -- you're not doing any favors to our nation, our people, by wanting indiscriminate breeding of children that cannot be valued and carefully raised!

I realize that, rhetorically, "murdering babies" moves you to action -- but it's a small SIDE-battle in saving our nation. STOP chasing squirrels!

And, p.s., that means birth control MUST be available to all women all the time! "Sentencing" women -- especially OUR women -- to bear and raise children they cannot or will not be able to raise as K-selected, valued, valuable, future 'wolves in our wolf-pack(s)' is acting LIKE our enemies! Leave this side battle for much much much later! Let's save our nation, before wasting time on something that cannot help,and WILL hurt, our chances of surviving AS a nation!

Blogger Michael Neal December 21, 2016 7:35 AM  

Maybe after 100 more mass killings more people will wake up, they are that thick headed

Anonymous Jay Will December 21, 2016 7:35 AM  

In the comments DTR says "if Islam was content to stay within its borders there would be possible venues for alternative outcome"

Really, the US and its allies are the biggest invader of people on the planet. This is fact. The fake news is that it was too defeat communism or some other bogey man. It was empire, power full stop.

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 7:37 AM  

@8 "An easy counterexample: the Rwanda massacres of the mid-90s. Plenty of war, no state organization."

ENTIRELY tribal organization! (Is that 2G war or 3G war? I'm still not as solid as I need to be one the 'lines.')

Why would you say that clear, strict, exact tribal organization (in the waging of war) would not be the ... less advanced version of a state organization? Or is it the difference between nation and state?

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 7:38 AM  

@15

It especially makes sense if "they" are (globalists). They can pit two of their enemies against each other, and also make a profit on top of that.

Blogger ZhukovG December 21, 2016 7:39 AM  

While we must drive the invaders out we should bear in mind, with apologies to Chancellor Bismark, that the whole of the middle east is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.

The Shia Muslims, who appear to be relatively civilized compared to the whack-a-doodle Sunnis, will happily sell oil to us.

Anonymous Ivan Throne December 21, 2016 7:39 AM  

@18 - You are correct. The Church Militant must wake, and rise, and lead men to fight.

"But then there will be no turning back!" cry the priests.

What unregenerate fools.

Do they think the followers of Mohammed will spare the Cross?

Their appeasement will not stop their heads from being hacked off on their very own altars.

Pope Francis may believe in theoretical evil, but he is blind to the reality of conscious, murderous evil giving ululating tongue as it unreservedly butchers the sheep he is responsible for leading.

It will get far worse before it gets better.

It will not get better for a long time.

But it will get better.

Men of the West best grip spears and ready for holy war. For just as the saying goes, "you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - holy war is no less inexorable when it rolls towards your doorstep.

Regards,

Ivan

Blogger Boko Harambe December 21, 2016 7:41 AM  

Short-sighted, Avalanche. Abortion is a side issue but not a wholly unimportant one. What chance does a nation have, when it strangles its prosperity before it even reaches the cradle?

The white women having abortions are exactly the ones who ought to be breeding (for the most part). Think: somewhat or highly educated and S or SD+ women who have been steeped in "a baby will ruin your glorious future" so their youthful indiscretions or failures (heh) of birth control drive them to abort so the fun times won't end. A change in culture can change their minds. Women are malleable and follow their leaders.

Blogger Phillip George December 21, 2016 7:41 AM  

Europe is a confederacy within the COMMONWEALTH of Christendom.

Muhammadansim is merely blasphemy.

Secularism has not protected atheists. Christendom did.

You cannot serve two masters. Yes its all about Jesus. It always was, always will be, hasn't changed now.

Pick a side.

Blogger Markku December 21, 2016 7:42 AM  

Badger Brigadon wrote:Civil war is HERE. It is already being fought.


It's civil war when your default decision upon noticing an enemy is to kill him, unless there is very good reason to choose another course of action. In our previous civil war, we very quickly went to killing even our family just because they sided with the other side. THAT is when you know you have civil war.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore December 21, 2016 7:44 AM  

Off topic.... kinda'.

Finished reading "Cuckservative about a week ago. The ideas in that text are now in my mind and, as a result, I've been noticing them throughout different quarters of social media.

http://religionnews.com/2016/02/03/russell-moore-really-represent-southern-baptists-commentary/

Blogger Justin C December 21, 2016 7:46 AM  

"What am I doing to turn the tide?"

Im married to the mother of my three children, i practice my orthodox Catholic faith, keep my kids out of public school, yes, i know Home school or die, but i do what i can, Im in the military, Ive stored precious metals, bought a glock, Voted for Trump,
If any one has any other useful suggestions im listening

Blogger Aaron Swenson December 21, 2016 8:07 AM  

Dig by yourself for a year whenever you have free time. You'd be surprised how big a hole you can make underground in that time.

Blogger Aaron Swenson December 21, 2016 8:08 AM  

If you have land, obviously.

Blogger The Observer December 21, 2016 8:08 AM  

@29

I wouldn't bother. Reads like another concern troll. "See, you've got to compromise so that you can be accessible to the right-thinking people..." where have we heard that before?

There will always be a state religion. The fact that the US has prevented an explicit one has merely allowed an implicit one - progressivism - to take root, which is far more insidious than an explicit one.

Notice the blabbering on about r/K when it demonstrates at best a superficial understanding of the principles involved, making the basic mistake of confusing sexual with reproductive strategies.

I wouldn't pay any attention to it.

Blogger Zelezny December 21, 2016 8:11 AM  

The Turkish assasin was Israeli Mossad.

Altin Tas = Gold Stein

Blogger SteelPalm December 21, 2016 8:29 AM  

@37

...And we have our first idiot nutjob of the comment thread.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 21, 2016 8:31 AM  

Avalanche wrote:... you folks who want to "fight the abortion wars" again are DILUTING any chance we have to save this nation! If you want to create a Christian theocracy, you are going to lose a lot of support -- including mine.

Avalanche cleverly advocates for the repeal of the 19th amendment.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 21, 2016 8:35 AM  

(((War mongers)))
Invade the world, invite the world.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 21, 2016 8:39 AM  

"...the whole of the middle east is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier."

China and Japan are the largest purchasers of ME oil. How many wars have they fought there?

Blogger Shimshon December 21, 2016 8:50 AM  

@20 Shut up rabbit, not all Muslims are killers, but nearly all sympathize and even approve of their acts, and many (MANY) will actively aid and abet them if given the opportunity. So, yes, they do have to go, period.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 21, 2016 8:55 AM  

SteelPalm wrote:How far do you propose taking the war?

Whether we like it or not, this war will end when the last mohammedan is strangled with the guts of the last liberal.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 8:55 AM  

"There will always be a state religion. The fact that the US has prevented an explicit one has merely allowed an implicit one - progressivism - to take root, which is far more insidious than an explicit one."

Yes, this.

Sooner or later, in order to survive and prosper, each Western nation must proclaim itself Christian, incorporate at least the primary teachings of Christianity within their governments, and celebrate them openly in the public square. The non-religious and other religions (mohammedanism is a political ideology, not a religion) may be allowed as a tiny minority within society, but only to the extent that their adherents voluntarily defer to a Christian environment. They will not be forced to directly take part in Christian ceremonies, but neither will they ever be allowed the power to abort traditions or modify Christian principles of the government in any way. Like it or not, believe it or not, this is the only way Western Civilization can save itself and be reborn.

Blogger Hen December 21, 2016 8:56 AM  

http://archive.is/IDBh5

Of course, I don't know if this is real. Sorry to be such an amateur. Would ya'll please read and comment? Thanks.

Blogger modsquad December 21, 2016 8:58 AM  

Looks like the truck driver "dropped" his ID in the truck. Thank goodness, there should be no questions now about who to blame (not Mossad).

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/anschlag-in-berlin-polizei-sucht-tunesier-a-1126931.html

Blogger SteelPalm December 21, 2016 8:58 AM  

@43

Whether we like it or not, this war will end when the last mohammedan is strangled with the guts of the last liberal.

A fair perspective. However, I'm curious about what Vox thinks, as he defended becoming allies, partners, and even friends with Iran a few days ago.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 21, 2016 9:02 AM  

"There will always be a state religion. The fact that the US has prevented an explicit one has merely allowed an implicit one - progressivism - to take root, which is far more insidious than an explicit one."

Yes, this.

Sooner or later, in order to survive and prosper, each Western nation must proclaim itself Christian, incorporate at least the primary teachings of Christianity within their governments, and celebrate them openly in the public square. The non-religious and other religions (mohammedanism is a political ideology, not a religion) may possibly be allowed as a tiny minority within society, but only to the extent that their adherents voluntarily swear deference to a Christian environment. They will not be forced to directly take part in Christian ceremonies, but neither will they ever be allowed the power to abort traditions or modify Christian principles of the government in any way. Like it or not, believe it or not, this is the only way Western Civilization can save itself and be reborn.

Anonymous Mark Auld December 21, 2016 9:02 AM  

Sounds good,I'd recommend long guns as well.

Blogger VD December 21, 2016 9:04 AM  

How far do you propose taking the war? Merely driving out the jihadi invaders from Western lands? Or directly taking the fight into their own Death Cult nations as well?

Just driving them out of the West. That led to peace for centuries. Getting involved over there is what brought them here.

Blogger IreneAthena December 21, 2016 9:05 AM  

"What are you going to do to turn the tide?" Who could have imagined this ten years ago, a call-to-arms coming from the man-o-sphere in defending Western women against rape?

Snark aside, it was about dang time when the lid was blown off the mess in Rotherham, where oh-so politically correct officials turned a blind eye to the phenomenon of 1400 young girls being sexually assaulted over a period of years by Muslim men in "grooming gangs." Rape is bad, yes, and rapists must be stopped, but declaring war on Muslim men whether one picks them off like "nits" or goes the more humane route of mass deportation) is not going to yield much bang for the buck towards materially reducing the overall rape rate. Instead, the big change is going to be a huge increase in the rate of bucks, white and brown, dying way before their time.

Consider these statistics from The National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

One in five women has been the victim of attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.
Nearly 1 in 2 women have experienced sexual violence other than rape in their lifetime.
17.7 million women in the US have been the victim of a rape or attempted rape at some point in their lives.
The majority of both female and male victims of rape knew the person who raped them.

OK, even if declaring war on Muslims to reduce the rape rate is a no-go based on the cost-benefit analysis, what about declaring war on them to reduce the murder rate?

Here are some thoughts on that from a 2016 report from the Cato Institute, Terrorism and Immigration, a Risk Analysis. You may not agree with the conclusions, but I think you will find the analysis to be robust.

"Including those murdered in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 (9/11), the chance of an American perishing in a terrorist attack on U.S. soil that was committed by a foreigner over the 41-year period studied here [1975 - 2015] is 1 in 3.6 million per year. The hazard posed by foreigners who entered on different visa categories varies considerably. For instance, the chance of an American being murdered in a terrorist attack caused by a refugee is 1 in 3.64 billion per year while the chance of being murdered in an attack committed by an illegal immigrant is an astronomical 1 in 10.9 billion per year. By contrast, the chance of being murdered by a tourist on a B visa, the most common tourist visa, is 1 in 3.9 million per year. Any government response to terrorism must take account of the wide range of hazards posed by foreign-born terrorists who entered under various visa categories...The hazards posed by foreign-born terrorists are not large enough to warrant extreme actions like a moratorium on all immigration or tourism."

Blogger VD December 21, 2016 9:05 AM  

If you want to create a Christian theocracy, you are going to lose a lot of support -- including mine.

Even if your choice is a) Christian theocracy or b) Muslim theocracy?

Fighting a) to ensure b) strikes me as insanely stupid. I don't think you non-Christians grasp that you had your shot. Secularism failed. You brought an empty hand to a gun fight.

Blogger SteelPalm December 21, 2016 9:08 AM  

@49

Very reasonable Vox, thanks. Amusingly, your proposal is far more moderate and merciful than that of, say, Ann Barnhardt.

Anonymous Millenium December 21, 2016 9:10 AM  

@13 What is the name of the series?

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 21, 2016 9:10 AM  

@22- Avalanche

Heh. It's not a Theological opinion in the slightest. It's a simple fact... we are not going to be able to sustain our population as long as birth support, unlimited divorce, and birth control are readily available. Without a sustainable or growing birthrate, NO culture, Race, or nation can survive.

This is NOT a side issue. To be completely fair, there is a good argument that a nation that legalizes (read encourages) sacrificing it's babies to Moloch and Isis not only has no chance at survival, it does not DESERVE to survive, but that is a moral judgement... The practical one is that a population that cannot grow will be overwhelmed, and has, every single time in history. And practically, a woman that can murder her own baby in the womb is a monster that deserves neither pity nor mercy.

Do I want women in the workplace? Hell no. All signs point at 'working women' massively diluting the strength of the family and of raising children, encourages divorce and liscentiousness, encourages looking at families and children as 'conveniences', and massively encourages a lifestyle devoted to sex and cheating. Not to mention it negatively affects male wages and ability to support a family on a single income, creates a 'replaceable cogs' workplace culture, leads to horrific emotional and morale issues, and (as we have discovered) always leads to social convergence.

No, I do not consider women 'responsible adults'. I love them, I protect them, I would give my life for them, But fuck me if I am going to 'respect' an overgrown child... which is the 'default' female condition. Yes there are exceptions, but exceptions can distinguish themselves without any special requirements or rules.

And if that is a 'deal breaker' for you, too fucking bad. You are WAY too far to the left if you consider consequence-free sex a fundamental right.

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 21, 2016 9:24 AM  

Excuse me, abortion support.

Your experiment in an Atheistic nation has FAILED, and even though I am not, myself, a church goer, I am willing to support a Christian nation 100%. They share my morality and ethical standards, and have proven over thousands of years to be a long-term civilization boon... Nihilistic, Narcissistic Secularism has only proven a way to murder millions without guilt and topple civilizations.

You can reply if you wish, but I already have you marked as a secular feminist, and thus have little more than scorn for someone who will not be convinced until they feel the real pain of their foolishness.

Blogger Shimshon December 21, 2016 9:26 AM  

@46 SteelPalm, just because "we" (hello fellow white people) don't want them over here, doesn't mean we can't be congenial with them when they're over there. What on earth can they do to "us" when they're not around us? We make their weapons (which we should stop selling to them), and practically all the modern equipment and supplies (food, medicine, etc.) they use to maintain their poor excuses for national economies.

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 21, 2016 9:35 AM  

@51- Vox,

I don't think anyone wants a Theocracy... Theocracies damage the church far more than they damage a nation as a church is eaten alive by becoming an avenue for worldly and political power rather than as a way to grow closer to god.

But a nation that acknowledges god as the supreme power from which all other power flows... NOT clergy, but Christ himself, instills a sense of humility and an ethical morality that is desperately needed to maintain a civilization. I do not want a pope in charge, but I want a leader that the people demand maintain God's laws rather than caving to whatever immoral whim his voting base may demand.

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 21, 2016 9:42 AM  

"By God's Grace, President of the Christian United States of America, Commander in Chief, Defender of the Faith, Donald J Trump!" has a nice ring to it.

Of course, we are a Protestant nation, so 'defender of the Faith' might be a hard sell, but it's important.

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 10:08 AM  

@29 "Short-sighted, Avalanche. Abortion is a side issue but not a wholly unimportant one. What chance does a nation have, when it strangles its prosperity before it even reaches the cradle?"

On the contrary, I'm being long-sighted. In winning this war, abortion is wholly unimportant! There is NO "prosperity" in forcing women (most esp. Alt-Right women -- who WOULD be willing to exceed their sex and actually fight for their nation) to bear children in the midst of this war!


"The white women having abortions are exactly the ones who ought to be breeding (for the most part)."

So, if all these women are now forced to have these babies, we have to wait, what 16-17 YEARS before they (mother or putative male child?) could be useful in this fight? What forever-destroyed nation will be LEFT for these future fighters? (Who, of course, will NOT grow up to be fighters because the swamping of our nation by foreigners will prevent ANY recovery of our people!) There is no 'out-breeding' our (imported) enemies, and no waiting for a cannot-be-achieved future to start the fighting!


"Think: somewhat or highly educated and S or SD+ women who have been steeped in "a baby will ruin your glorious future"

There IS no future, glorious or otherwise, until we recover this nation! As long as NON-White Euro-derived women are and have been aborting thousands of future soldiers, -- that IS our enemy making a mistake! That our people are also making (a smaller version of) that mistake does not balance the necessity of allowing our enemies to do so!

And, in this world, a baby WILL ruin lots of women's futures, and this nation’s future. Sorry, this is the world we HAVE -- please stop trying to force future possibilities onto today's pathological world!

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 10:09 AM  

(cont.)
"so their youthful indiscretions or failures (heh) of birth control drive them to abort so the fun times won't end."

This is SUCH am idiotic "excuse" for "don't let them have abortions." FIRST we must save the nation; THEN we must undo (replace?) the propaganda that accepts (and pushes) careless and casual sex with its attendant downsides (damage to women and society, unintended / unsupportable pregnancies and children; and of course, literally hundreds of thousands of "not-us" babies growing up to be criminals and drags on our recovering nation); and only once we have recovered our nation, our people, our women from our enemy's propaganda, will we have any CHANCE of changing things.

(And, just a shot in passing at a part of the destruction of our people; those "fun times" you're blaming women for? IF we succeed, it means y'all's "hero" Roosh will be thrown the hell out of this country too! "Teaching" White men how to abuse White women is just one more version of non-Whites destroying our people! No casual sex for women means no casual sex for men! Yes? Y'all ready to sign on for that -- or is your position just about forcing the women, who "play the game" he (and you?) want them to play, to carry unintended babies to term?)


"A change in culture can change their minds. Women are malleable and follow their leaders."

Women are indeed malleable, because the evolutionary history of women has given us the need and drive – inculcated in our GENES -- to 'fit into' our milieu. Isolation means death. That is a fundamental (often unconscious) basis for everything women are and do. Until you White Euro-derived men once again lead our nation, there are no leaders we'd want women to follow, are there? Until you change the culture, there are no leaders!

Until you White Euro-derived men once again lead our nation, there are no leaders we'd want our women to follow, are there? Until you change the culture, there are no leaders! (And, if you want to lead, you must be worth following: is Roosh worth following into the future you seek to create? Dark Lord, I mostly hold to "no shooting to the right" -- but I do not see Roosh's support for free speech out-weighing his teaching our men to help the destruction of our women.)

STOP trying to insist on or implement things that CANNOT be done until after the war is won!

(Boko Harambe: love your avatar name though!)

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 10:18 AM  

@39 "Avalanche cleverly advocates for the repeal of the 19th amendment."

Avalanche supports repealing the 19th amendment! (I'd prefer it were replaced by voting requiring status as a "land- or business-owner" (as I am both...). And, no first or second generation immigrants (those we cannot send away) getting to vote at all... Not happy about the third gen getting to vote but it may be necessary?

Anonymous BBGKB December 21, 2016 10:38 AM  

The worst part is none of the moslems could survive in the west without welfare/dole that they consider due them as jizya.

Leftist enabler: "Nothing to see here, now move along."

More like "Maybe one of those strapping young didndus will be interested in my old post wall puss"

Carlos Slim, the great businessman from Mexico...What's behind it?

Remember TRUMP had Romney eating crow. I am certain TRUMP knows Slims is only rich due to a government granted monopoly( TRUMP will take the same amount of money from repatriations as Slims does to pay for the wall) & became richer than Gates when affirmative action gave him the Obamaphone contract.

"Not all mooslims!" and explain the barbarous ideology and why, yes all mooslims want to kill or enslave us.

Show them this video of moslems all raising their hand at a peace conference in Norway when asked if they believed gays & loose women should be stoned(with rocks) to death.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2013/10/31/moderate-muslims-at-norway-peace-conference-endorse-stoning-for-gays-and-adulterers/

, Ive stored precious metals, bought a glock, Voted for Trump,

Plant some fruit/nut trees, grapes, possibly a tree guild or food forest. It might be a long war.

(I'd prefer it were replaced by voting requiring status as a "land- or business-owner"

Does it matter if you paid off your mortgage in full? I would prefer "net taxpayer", someone who pays more in taxes than he gets in taxpayer paid handouts. So Elon Musk no, but a US soldier yes.

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 10:50 AM  

@51 Vox Day: "Even if your choice is a) Christian theocracy or b) Muslim theocracy?

Fighting a) to ensure b) strikes me as insanely stupid. I don't think you non-Christians grasp that you had your shot. Secularism failed. You brought an empty hand to a gun fight."

I don't fight a). I ... reluctantly ... support (some parts of?) a); I suggest that the fighting against b) MUST be concluded/successful before any discussion of the 'finer points' of the future set-up of our nation will be.

I'm not suggesting secularism; I'm HOPING for a (mostly) Christian nation that allows for non-Christian (White, Euro-derived) members to not be forced to participate in the strait-jacket that is a theocracy. (How many Christians would also prefer to avoid a theocracy?)

Was the 'original' America / U.S. a Christian theocracy? I'd say no. But it was certainly a mostly Christian nation. (Nation, not country.)

The fight against muslim political/religious state is fundamental. There is no future without winning this war.

However, as long as Christians keep pushing their desire to force all to believe as they believe, I have to resist. One fight at a time. IF we manage to save our nation, THEN we can look into how we will go forward! (Hence: abortion is an unimportant side-battle to SAVING the nation. We can fight that internal disagreement once (IF!) we save our nation!)

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl December 21, 2016 10:53 AM  

VD wrote:How far do you propose taking the war? Merely driving out the jihadi invaders from Western lands? Or directly taking the fight into their own Death Cult nations as well?

Just driving them out of the West. That led to peace for centuries. Getting involved over there is what brought them here.


The Muslim World would not last very long without Western largesse, aid, food, money, trade, medical supplies. Especially the money. A staggeringly large number of Muslims are inbred to the point where their bloodlines are going to go kaput in a couple generations. Only Western capital and medical tech keeps their birthrates so high.

Cut all that off? The Muslim world is kicked back to 1320.

Re: Christian Theocracy vs. Muslim Theocracy
European Christianity is still rooted in general Western Civilization (rule of law - common, civil, criminal, sovereign citizenship, general protections of private property and wealth). A Christian Theocracy under the likes of someone like Glenn Beck wouldn't last long and is essentially Eastern Despotism masquerading as Christianity (Churchianity, if you like).

Muslim Theocracy is...well, Arab Religious Communism. Or as someone cleverer than me said, Islam is militarism that found a religion.

Blogger VD December 21, 2016 10:58 AM  

However, as long as Christians keep pushing their desire to force all to believe as they believe, I have to resist.

Then you're on the wrong side, along with the mudsharks and the women in black. Do you not understand that your secular ideology has already failed? It has failed completely, in every way. It is parasitical and cannot survive on its own.

The only way you will have a Western and European society again is to have one that is Christian, the way it was before.

Blogger Stilicho December 21, 2016 10:59 AM  

@Jay Will. I don't care who shot first. I want them gone from my country. Period. Full stop. Now quit being a whinging pussy.

Anonymous BBGKB December 21, 2016 11:21 AM  

The Tranny Cannibal Biker Rape gangs might not be a joking matter anymore for post apocalypse prepers.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/liberals-are-buying-guns/

"a 28-year-old nursing student, grew up in the Mid-West, where “the folks that had guns were seen as hicks” or were just “culturally different”, she says…

As a transgender woman, she does not fear for her personal safety in the Californian city where she now lives but she says she knows people in rural areas"

Blogger Elizabeth December 21, 2016 11:44 AM  

The Tranny Cannibal Biker Rape gangs might not be a joking matter anymore for post apocalypse prepers.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/liberals-are-buying-guns/

"a 28-year-old nursing student, grew up in the Mid-West, where “the folks that had guns were seen as hicks” or were just “culturally different”, she says…

As a transgender woman, she does not fear for her personal safety in the Californian city where she now lives but she says she knows people in rural areas"

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Not too long ago, liberals didn't have a problem with guns. A now-deceased friend of mine brought his .22 (unloaded, of course) onto the subway in New York City (he graduated from high school in 1964). Someone else told me that high schools routinely included basement rifle ranges until about 1970.

Blogger flyingtiger December 21, 2016 11:49 AM  

Take away their welfare. You will see how quickly the jihad collapses.

Anonymous Desert Rat December 21, 2016 12:10 PM  

Having read the well written, capably argued and rather passionate postings from Avalanche my initial reaction was, and remains: Fuck you. Go ahead and join the enemy. You are already more in their camp than mine as it is. It is precisely the abandonment of Christian belief and culture that has opened the flood gates to every horrific ideology and alien pathology under the sun and led us to the place we now find ourselves. If you can't bring yourself to support a Christian west then you belong somewhere else.

Blogger Shimshon December 21, 2016 12:19 PM  

I thought this short Israel National News article was interesting. Just wait until Moshe Feiglin is PM. Never heard of this guy before. Anyone here with insight into Belgian politics (beyond the Flemish/Walloon split)?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/222059

"Populist wave in US, Europe is great for Israel"

Founder of Belgian People's Party tells Arutz Sheva wave of populism sweeping across West is a boon for Israel.

"But then you have all these movements that are combatting the mainstream media and the mainstream parties that are made up of your citizens that are tending to the right but do not consider themselves right-wing or extremist and so on, that are rising in Europe... and they are, for many reasons, sympathetic to Israel. Because they see an example... Israel as a kind of example - if I may quote a religious word - a kind of 'light unto the nations'."

"What Israel is doing - up on its feet, fighting radical Islam, controlling its border, and being strong on its values and history and so on... is a kind of example, Israel."

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 12:21 PM  

@54 "Heh. It's not a Theological opinion in the slightest. It's a simple fact... we are not going to be able to sustain our population as long as birth support, unlimited divorce, and birth control are readily available. Without a sustainable or growing birthrate, NO culture, Race, or nation can survive."

Hey Badger, until we win the war of hundreds of thousands of unassimilable aliens swamping us, "sustaining our population" is impossible.

Does NO one see the *priority* here? Ever heard of triage? Concentrating on a broken wrist when the patient in bleeding out is a waste of time and skill! Until we save the LIFE of our nation, any other alleged priority is secondary, a SIDE issue! That may uncomfortable for you Christians, but it is necessary!

This is the r/K flaw in Christianity: I doubt to a(n actual) K species that any/every "baby" is valued/valuable: ONLY our own offspring are valued! You don't see wolves taking in antelope calves to raise them. Christianity blurs the line of "kith and kind": we are to protect and raise OUR offspring, not everyone's! I would happily make abortion FREE for non-White Euro-derived women living in our country. Whether or not we decide in some post-WAR future to outlaw it for White women made pregnant by White men will need to be decided IF we win the war.)


"This is NOT a side issue. ...."

See para. above: triage requires saving the NATION before figuring out how the nation will live on. I realize this is a hugely important (emotional) issue to many people; but ANYthing other than winning our nation back is a side issue.


"Do I want women in the workplace? Hell no. All signs point at 'working women' massively diluting the strength of the family..."

And for women without that family? Look back to Victorian England – you would have ... wait, never mind; we're once again getting caught up in SIDE issues!! Trying to enlist support (from men and women in the current day) by arguing what you see as your desired END point will not work. Look, you're concentrating on the far far away future. We FIRST need to keep this nation from ending! ("SQUIRREL!!")

Fight the war we are IN; stop planning for the future peace because need to GET there, FIRST!


"and of raising children, encourages divorce and liscentiousness, encourages looking at families and children as 'conveniences', and massively encourages a lifestyle devoted to sex and cheating. Not to mention it negatively affects male wages and ability to support a family on a single income, creates a 'replaceable cogs' workplace culture, leads to horrific emotional and morale issues, and (as we have discovered) always leads to social convergence."

And do ANY of these have anything to do with saving our nation?! With 60 million invaders we know of, and another 30 or 40 million Coulter suggests are not even counted... WHAT DIFFERENCE does it make if we disagree about working women or licentiousness (how about all those imported rapists -- licentious enough for you?! Your Roosh urges licentiousness on OUR MEN to destroy our women?) What difference does it make in trying to figure out how to get to supporting a family or any of your perfectly fine points?! Stop dreaming of how you want to structure the future and concentrate on getting there!! ("SQUIRREL!!")

Blogger Avalanche December 21, 2016 12:21 PM  

(cont.)
"No, I do not consider women 'responsible adults'. I love them, I protect them, I would give my life for them, But fuck me if I am going to 'respect' an overgrown child... which is the 'default' female condition. Yes there are exceptions, but exceptions can distinguish themselves without any special requirements or rules."

I agree to a degree; but as long as you view women with such vitriol, why would they ever listen to you or think you're worth following? I'd suggest that women give men respect, and men cherish women -- not snarl at them as "overgrown children," but ACCEPT that their purpose, mission, and decisions are based on something other than men's purpose, mission, and decisions. (Do you think women were "degraded and misled" all by themselves? What were you White men doing all that while? I used to tease the wonderful men at our "hate dinners" for letting their thumbs up off their women, till I realized it was inappropriate for me to be teasing them.) WOMEN did not do this to our society -- so step up and take responsibility for MEN'S contributions!

As long as you are concentrating on "how I want to fix (limit, restrict, control, 'lock back into their houses') all women" -- you're ignoring the actual first battle/war. Until you win that first war -- WHY would women want to follow you?

Consider this: in an all-WHITE society, women's innate, natural, genetic desire and urge to care for children serves as an amazing strength, part of what MAKES our nations so strong and exceptional. Just as your heart speeds up and you get a half-erection on seeing some fantastic weapon (or a gorgeous woman), so our hearts melt and we are drawn instinctually towards babies and children -- of ANY species (puppies? kitties?). (You go "wow, hot!"; we go "aaawwww, cute." Biological difference, yes?) WHO let into our nations child races that women are biologically drawn to help and nurture? It wasn't the women without the vote! Who did NOT forcibly remove those child races when slavery ended and we had a chance to remove the infection that is killing us (see "triage" above)? It wasn't the women without the vote!

So, instead of blaming WOMEN for the destruction of our nation, look to see who removed the entirely appropriate "brakes" on their actions. Biology is destiny: I'll grant it was women's biology that led us here, if YOU will grant that it was you men who took off the biological brakes!


"And if that is a 'deal breaker' for you, too fucking bad. You are WAY too far to the left if you consider consequence-free sex a fundamental right."

Ha! I am SO completely NOT left I make most of you "rightists" look like Commies! I try to color within the lines here so as not to offend my host, and to be allowed to continue participating. There is no such thing as consequence-free sex -- anyone gonna mention that to Roosh?! Or are you too pissed at women to ... what did you write? "I love them, I protect them, I would give my life for them," to address those consequences?

Blogger dc.sunsets December 21, 2016 12:22 PM  

This is 4GW, and as such the most important thing is to win at the moral level. The West can no longer afford to finance its "Invade the World" program, and so acts of terror will increasingly tip the moral level in favor of the West.

Then, and only then will the will to win arise among our neighbors.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 21, 2016 12:32 PM  

Even if your choice is a) Christian theocracy or b) Muslim theocracy?

Fighting a) to ensure b) strikes me as insanely stupid. I don't think you non-Christians grasp that you had your shot. Secularism failed. You brought an empty hand to a gun fight.

Even I can see that devotion matters. Islam is a simple religion for simple, warfare prone people. Its zealots make even the most zealous SJW look ridiculously spineless.

Westerners who think soldiers will stand and fight for abstract principles (or unfettered access to iPhones, abortions & no-fault divorce) are idiots.

Blogger Robert Scottson December 21, 2016 12:42 PM  

How should we make our society Christian again? Remove the no fault divorce laws so our families won't fall apart and more children can be raised Christian? Restrict abortion?

Anonymous Just another commenter December 21, 2016 12:46 PM  

I've tried to convince people. They call me paranoid, hateful. They twist my words or say "they are not ALL like that!" They simply refuse to believe that it could happen to them, that their world-view could be so wrong. It gets exhausting after a while. When I bump into someone that already understands, they light up with an "thank GOD, I thought I was the only one!" expression of relief. And that gives me a recharge, too. Keep on, keepin' on.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 21, 2016 12:50 PM  

However, as long as Christians keep pushing their desire to force all to believe as they believe

What does this strawman or your paranoia about "theocracy" have to do with the necessity of removing incompatible religions and cultures from predominately Christian nations?

And abortion is an integral part of the left's plan to tear down civilization. It goes hand-in-hand with the rest of their zero-population and population replacement incentives.

You don't get to keep abortion and an anti-Christian secularism, along with the benefits of Christian civilization. Not for long, anyway. Americans were able to "enjoy" both for a few generations thanks to a large amount of wealth and cultural inertia that was built up by Christendom over the centuries, but that's used up now. If you want the benefits of living in a Christian society, you'll have to live in a Christian society, not a secular one with some Christian side-dressing that doesn't affect anyone's life.

Blogger haus frau December 21, 2016 1:01 PM  

Avalanche
Hmm so you think encouraging white women to have children in our society's current state of decline and possiblet warfare is unwise and should be held off until the war is won. Are you under the impression that this war will only last a few years? It took 700 years for Spain to expel the parasites. You, with your abortion fetish, advocate a sure path to defeat. Spanish christians would have rightfully burned you at the stake as an enemy of their civilization.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 1:36 PM  

@55 "Your experiment in an Atheistic nation has FAILED, and even though I am not, myself, a church goer, I am willing to support a Christian nation 100%."

100%? No drinking, no dancing? (I was raised northern Baptist.) 100% tithe, no matter if you agree with how that money is used? How about all the Christians (not all are Churchians!) who put water in the desert so the illegals can drink on their way here? How about the churches providing sanctuary? Sanctuary may have made sense when it was Whites fighting Whites... Sanctuary for illegals? Terrorists? Child rapists?

It is not so easy to "support a Christian nation 100%"!!


"They share my morality and ethical standards, and have proven over thousands of years to be a long-term civilization boon."

Boon to the Cathars? Catholics against Protestants? Protestants against Evangelicals? Korean Christians against White Euro-derived Christians? African "Christians" against White Christians?

These share your mortality? Or you meant SOME of them share SOME of your morality, and without careful thought (and a seeing glass into the future, if there is a future), you do not know if you could honorably or willingly share 100% of whichever Christian theocracy requires of you!

(And, again -- unless an until we win TODAY'S war, none of this matters!)


"You can reply if you wish, but I already have you marked as a secular feminist, and thus have little more than scorn for someone who will not be convinced until they feel the real pain of their foolishness."

Secular... mostly. But, I accept, albeit with reservations, that we must have a Christian nation. As I wrote: the 16 points suit me fine. (I would prefer a more harsh version of them, while acknowledging they would not suit most folks. Women, you may not know, have no "off" switch: a male wolf who surrenders is not torn to pieces by his superior; when he surrenders, the other male quits. Women don't have that. If we're in a fight and the opponent surrenders, we're just as likely to tear their throat out as allow them to quit. Another biological "switch" in one sex missing in the other. )

Feminist? Not for the past 30+ years! In my deluded youth, I took the brainwashing, for which I apologize to the men of my race! But, K-selected, so reality always mattered. I have the "lioness protecting her cubs" thing just fine. I also have the mammalian: "kill the cubs of my enemies! Kill them ALL! Do not let them grow up to fight your own cubs!" How is it that you do not have that?

There are perfectly good reasons to "murder" the potential offspring of your enemies (And then burn their farms and salt the earth!!) (It’s NOT "save all the babies": "save OUR babies!!"

Your Christianity has (apparently) been feminized / domesticated away from the Church Militant! Where are the Christian warriors ready and willing to murder (to use the rhetoric) our enemies? Has your Christianity become so milk-sop that you would rather let them stay than kill them all? ("Oooooh, we can export them...." "No. No, we can’t, because they won't go.")

Blogger Boko Harambe December 21, 2016 1:44 PM  

Is this the return of WildMan?

Obvs Avalanche has the right of it so we can all go to nap time and not bother.

Blogger Feather Blade December 21, 2016 1:47 PM  

Avalanche wrote:On the contrary, I'm being long-sighted. In winning this war, abortion is wholly unimportant! There is NO "prosperity" in forcing women (most esp. Alt-Right women -- who WOULD be willing to exceed their sex and actually fight for their nation) to bear children in the midst of this war!

Such a Communist.

If your women are out on the barricades with rifles, it means that all your men are dead, and the women are the last defense standing between the children and the invader.

Do you not realize that having children is how women fight? And it gives double benefit: women having children fights abortion, and provides your culture with its next generation.

Do you not understand that that is why there is less support for abortion in society? Because the anti-abortioners had kids, and the pro-abortioners killed all of theirs!

Besides, telling women "Fight now, babies later!" will have the exact same effect as the "Career now, babies later!" that the Left preaches.

The fight never ends. Do you know what one calls people who wait for the "perfect time" to have kids?

"Childless".

The future belongs to those who show up.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 2:00 PM  

@65 "However, as long as Christians keep pushing their desire to force all to believe as they believe, I have to resist.

Then you're on the wrong side, along with the mudsharks and the women in black. Do you not understand that your secular ideology has already failed? It has failed completely, in every way. It is parasitical and cannot survive on its own.

The only way you will have a Western and European society again is to have one that is Christian, the way it was before."

Which one? Which way before? Do I have to become a mennonite and wear long skirts and hair nets? Must I give up my manufacturing company, control of my money and my house and my life? The way it was before means -- no matter how smart I am -- I am reduced to penury; to relying on (to hoping and PRAYING for?!) some man to take me on as a burden? (No brothers, husband died, no children -- WHERE do I live and how?!)

Early America Christian or medieval European Christian? Women should not speak in church Christian?

I am brought back to: unless and until we win the war on our enemies, these are details that are more likely to lead smart White women to resist where we need to go! If you want me to support our fight to return our nation, my people, to a White Euro-derived country, then telling me that I will lose everything is not going to motivate me (or most other women).

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 21, 2016 2:21 PM  

You make some interesting points, Avalanche. However, as our host has frequently noted, most women (and gamma enablers) can only see things solipsistically.

Which is essentially what you're saying here: "Me. Me. Me. How will this affect me?"

Um, we don't care. Because we don't even know how it will affect US. Any of us. Some of us will probably be dead by the time this thing gets resolved.

The thing is, nobody knows what will happen and which elements of the Right will rise to power. It may be Vox's gang. It may be Richard Spencer's bunch. It may be someone way worse, and that becomes more likely the longer people like you resist getting on the right side. So you pitch in and do your best to get the dyscivilizational elements out of the West -- and then you've got to live with a situation you will not control. That's true for everyone, not just women in manufacturing who currently have control of your money. And good for you, in a society made safe for you by the blood of men.

If it's ever safe again, I guarantee it will be made safe by more blood shed by even more Western men. Or it will not, and you won't be manufacturing anything. You'll be wearing a burkha or in a brothel, if you're young and hot enough.

What you don't grasp is we don't need to motivate you. If you don't like the fact that we hate abortion, tough luck. Common sense and self preservation should be enough motivation for you.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 2:23 PM  

@70 "Having read the well written, capably argued and rather passionate postings from Avalanche my initial reaction was, and remains: Fuck you. Go ahead and join the enemy. You are already more in their camp than mine as it is. It is precisely the abandonment of Christian belief and culture that has opened the flood gates to every horrific ideology and alien pathology under the sun and led us to the place we now find ourselves. If you can't bring yourself to support a Christian west then you belong somewhere else."

Well, thanks for the compliments.

I will not join the enemy. I might urge the men of my race and nation to toughen up, but I am not even slightly in the enemy camp! I would build a wall across the top of africa, throw all the africans AND all the miscengenators over it -- let them do what they will there, not here. I would force all the moslems back into their sand pits and wall them in as well. I would return to an America as it was founded and use the might and weaponry of this nation to hold off all "not-us" peoples from our lands.

I completely deny the "horrific ideology and alien pathology" -- but I also deny the restrictions and waste of Christian/early western women that disallowed a full life to women. (How can I do other? I AM a woman! Would you accept chattel slavery as an desired end goal?) When I was married to my amazing husband I was a (very happy) kept wife, but then he died. I inherited (and recovered and am successfully running) his manufacturing co. Should I be forced to give that up? To whom? Why?

You good Christian men seem quite happy to insist that women give everything up in order to return to "a Christian nation." What for widows? Shall we be forced to suttee!? Or am I to live out my days as a poor widow-lady living in the church dorm?

I ABSOLUTELY agree this nation has been destroyed (and NOT solely by women's doing!) -- but what do you offer me in return for my help and support? The country I grew up in (I'm 61, it was a GREAT growing up!) was wonderful and MOSTLY Christian. THAT Christian west I can mostly support -- and have said multiple times I DO support the 16 points: I DO want a *mostly* Christian nation. But just as the current "country" is horrific and alien; I don't want to go back to a time where my life has no meaning or purpose.

Let's take it BACK from the aliens controlling and destroying it; let's find a way to NOT waste my life and the lives of women like me: smart and capable, but also not "under the control" of a man. (I have said that I would trade ten YEARS of my life for another 20 with my husband, but no one is making that offer.) Otherwise, why should I support you in destroying my life?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 21, 2016 2:32 PM  

Okay, so burkha it is then. Clearly you're a little older.

I have a feeling there is always room, even in a patriarchal society, for a smart single woman with the right ideas. I wouldn't fear what the folks here are shooting for.

There isn't that sort of option in a muslim society.

Blogger Feather Blade December 21, 2016 2:42 PM  

@85

You are stunningly ignorant. Stop listening to feminists teach history. They know nothing.

Women of the west have always worked and most have run businesses of some sort, with or without husbands.

There have even been non-religious collectives where single women with no other family live and work, either until they die or until they get married.

"Women stay in the home and are never seen outside it!" is the Islamist way, not they way of the west or of Christendom.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 21, 2016 2:45 PM  

Rape is an existential act of occupation. Primitive tribes get that, the Soviets knew that in 1945, Islamic colonizers get that, but feminists would rather screech about some mythical "rape culture" on college campuses. That is why rape is part of war.

The libtards with their "safe spaces" are closer to a 5th column than anything else. Sooner or later they will have to choose.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 2:54 PM  

@78 "However, as long as Christians keep pushing their desire to force all to believe as they believe
What does this strawman or your paranoia about "theocracy" have to do with the necessity of removing incompatible religions and cultures from predominately Christian nations?"

Nothing. I am (trying to keep) stressing and stressing -- the WAR is to clear out our country, then our nation. All the "we must outlaw this and change that and force women to this or the other" ... are SIDE issues!


"And abortion is an integral part of the left's plan to tear down civilization. It goes hand-in-hand with the rest of their zero-population and population replacement incentives."

Side issue. AT THE MOMENT it is helping us way more than it is hurting us. As long as many thousands and thousands of NON-White Euro-derived women are aborting their future NON-White fighters and drags on our nation's financial health -- good FOR US! This is the (apparent) short circuit I keep seeing in all you good Christians. Your position seems to be that your Number 1 priority is: ANY abortion is bad-horrible-must-be-stopped. That IS. NOT. SO. As long as our ENEMIES are doing so to their people, it is to our benefit! Let's help them along!!

And, as long as this country is taxing the shit out of the White Euro-derived families you WANT to have many babies, then those families will continue to make the (intelligent White) choice that they must keep their family smaller than would be best for our race/nation. If you're forcing White families to pay for illegal families with 6 or 8 kids, then they will naturally choose to limit themselves.


"You don't get to keep abortion and an anti-Christian secularism, along with the benefits of Christian civilization."

Are those two inextricably entwined? I do NOT have anti-Christian secularism; I have cautious pro-Christian secularism. Would you FORCE everyone in our race and nation to be a Christian? This is not the place (or time) to argue abortion -- and that makes it a SIDE issue to the war of trying to recover our nation. What we do AFTER we recover our nation will be a matter for a future White Euro-derived nation! NOT the (non-White) one we're drowning in right now!


"Not for long, anyway. Americans were able to "enjoy" both for a few generations thanks to a large amount of wealth and cultural inertia that was built up by Christendom over the centuries, but that's used up now. If you want the benefits of living in a Christian society, you'll have to live in a Christian society, not a secular one with some Christian side-dressing that doesn't affect anyone's life."

Is there no counterpart to that? A Christian society that allows some SECULAR side-dressing? That was the country I grew up in. THAT is the country I hope to return to.

A "wholly Christian society, we and only we set the rules" IS a theocracy.... and then what? Catholics allowed to stay or driven out? How about all the various sects of Protestantism? Mormons? Do the evangelicals outrank the old-time Presbyterians? What about Methodists? WHO decides?

And can NONE of you fighting this see that these details are NOT the main issue!? SAVING THIS NATION comes first. ALL else are side issues! Which KIND of Christianity eventually "rules" (oh, that worries me!) over the nation we HOPE to be saving today is for the future. For right now?! FIGHT THE WAR WE'RE IN, dammit!

Quit planning the celebration party and get focused on the WAR!

Blogger Resident Moron™ December 21, 2016 3:02 PM  

@Eric the Red

There's varying interpretations. You knew that was coming, huh?

If you take a reasonable Christian position that the OT cannot be separated from the NT, then there is plenty of scriptural examples of God's people defending themselves by force of arms. They didn't conquer by dint of martial superiority but still they took up the sword and wielded it well.

Even in the NT when Christ advises his followers to flee the coming destruction of Jerusalem, he does so in a mirror of the same injunction against fighting the Babylonian invasion; because it was ordained by God and not men it would be sacrilegious to resist it.

There is no universal injunction in OT or NT for believers to lay down and die.

On the contrary, the strong believer is told repeatedly that the very purpose of his existence is to defend the weak against evil.

Does the King bear a sword for nought?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 21, 2016 3:05 PM  

Badger, understand that even a ban on abortion and maybe the pill won't result in a population boom.

We have a counter example with Japan where it reached su-replacement fertility before abortion (2.0 in the 1950's) and ultra low fertility with only condoms (the pill wasn't in Japan till 1991) and somewhat restricted abortion (1.5 in 1990!)

Its going to require some economic changes and some means by which men have a decent steady enough income to support a family otherwise they will not cooperate

Despite what people think, a huge enough religious revival to cause smarter people to act against their own interests and subject their children to poverty may not happen.

This means ultimately not ignoring the economic consequences of technology

And note its not a new problem, the Catholic Church served this role in the Middle Ages along side guilds . It was designed to keep the economy steady and promote human dignity and well being

We will have to do the same thing because VR, Automation and the like are as big a threat to the West as Islam and Globalism

Blogger Sevron December 21, 2016 3:09 PM  

Why is anybody talking to Avalanche? It's just a woman talking about her feeeeeeelings.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 3:10 PM  

@79 "Hmm so you think encouraging white women to have children in our society's current state of decline and possible warfare is unwise and should be held off until the war is won."

I don't see anyone encouraging White women to have kids -- I see them haranguing about outlawing abortion and FORCING women to bear kids, will they, nil they! AND before we even win the war! (Hell, before we even begin FIGHTING the war!) (AND before we manage to recover most of our women to reality and sense!)


"Are you under the impression that this war will only last a few years?"

Alas, no. But there is a HUGE difference between forcing women to bear kids they may not be able to raise; and working to support women who CAN and should have children.


"It took 700 years for Spain to expel the parasites."

So, if you force several thousand White women who are liberal fools (and many thousands MORE non-White women) to have and raise babies as still MORE liberal fools -- HOW will that help you to win ANY war against parasites?


"You, with your abortion fetish,"

Nice rhetoric. I do NOT have an abortion fetish, but I also do not have the anti-abortion fetish that seems all too common here!


"advocate a sure path to defeat."

By draining off a HUGE amount of the energy and work and ability and money and and and ... that COULD go to fighting our enemies in order to try to force women to bear children they're not capable or interested in raising? Diluting the fighting forces onto side issues somehow is going to help prevent defeat?


"Spanish christians would have rightfully burned you at the stake as an enemy of their civilization."

So, now you think (actual) 12th century CHRISTIANS are way, way better than (today's) 12th century moslems?! Really? How, then, do you differ from today's moslems, if you hold up as an exemplar the Christians from the 12th century?

(I thought Christianity when through some sort of enlightenment and reform? No?)

Blogger Boko Harambe December 21, 2016 3:15 PM  

avalanche = insanitybytes

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 21, 2016 3:19 PM  

Avalanche wrote:(I thought Christianity when through some sort of enlightenment and reform? No?)

It did and there's half the problem right there.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 3:25 PM  

@82 "Such a Communist."

Ad hominem. Wasted space.


"If your women are out on the barricades with rifles, it means that all your men are dead, and the women are the last defense standing between the children and the invader."

I don't 'have' women, I AM a woman! MY man is dead. He died 6 years ago. I am 61 -- and I do NOT see a whole lot of men standing between me and the invader.


"Do you not realize that having children is how women fight? And it gives double benefit: women having children fights abortion, and provides your culture with its next generation."

No, I don't realize that the only use you see for women is having children! I did not have children (met my husband when I was 41), however, I have converted several White males to the Alt Right. I count that as a success that actually carries on beyond childbearing years. Do you? (Do you actually over-simplify everything this far?)


"Do you not understand that that is why there is less support for abortion in society? Because the anti-abortioners had kids, and the pro-abortioners killed all of theirs!
Besides, telling women "Fight now, babies later!" will have the exact same effect as the "Career now, babies later!" that the Left preaches.
The fight never ends. Do you know what one calls people who wait for the "perfect time" to have kids? "Childless"."

Do you not understand (as I keep pointing out): this is not the time or place to argue the abortion issue. If we do NOT save this nation, our people, then there is no point in trying to come to ANY sort of agreement on how we will go on later! (If there IS no later, what's the point in wasting time and energy making plans for how it will go?)


"The future belongs to those who show up."

No, the future belongs to those whose SIDE WINS! Right now? The blacks and the moslems are showing up AND winning, and the White males aren't making a very good showing at all. But boy, you've sure got a LOT of energy and heat to expend on complaining about abortion!

Anonymous Tipsy December 21, 2016 3:35 PM  

Feather Blade wrote:
Women of the west have always worked and most have run businesses of some sort, with or without husbands.


Your right. It's amply documented in historian Regine Pernoud's book: "Women in the Days of the Cathedral".

Blogger VFM #7634 December 21, 2016 3:36 PM  

Alas, no. But there is a HUGE difference between forcing women to bear kids they may not be able to raise; and working to support women who CAN and should have children.

Brown people are fully able to raise and support kids despite being flat broke, so why can't we?

OpenID originalh December 21, 2016 4:06 PM  

@94 said: "avalanche = insanitybytes"

No. Clearly not. Both are opinionated women with verbal diarrhea, but clearly not the same person.

Anonymous Tipsy December 21, 2016 4:12 PM  

Tipsy wrote:

Your right.
Stupid mistake. It's "You're right". Obviously.

Blogger haus frau December 21, 2016 4:23 PM  

" I see them haranguing about outlawing abortion and FORCING women to bear kids, will they, nil they! AND before we even win the war! (Hell, before we even begin FIGHTING the war!) (AND before we manage to recover most of our women to reality and sense!)"

Spot the tired old feminist rhetoric. No one is advocating "forcing" western women to bear children. Removing the ability of women to dismember their unborn child at will and restricting the use of birth control does remove the incentive for women to open their legs for any and all men who happen to take their fancy. So yeah, it will have a huge impact on the anti-civilizational choices young women make that undermine the western family. Sex is fundamentally the reproductive act and the good feelings and fun associated with sex is just the carrot that lures people into making babies. Don't want to be "forced" to bear a child? Then choose to keep your legs closed or find a better man you do want a child with.

""It took 700 years for Spain to expel the parasites."

So, if you force several thousand White women who are liberal fools (and many thousands MORE non-White women) to have and raise babies as still MORE liberal fools -- HOW will that help you to win ANY war against parasites?"
Yeah see, they couldn't afford to be so liberal if there were consequences to their actions. Remove the welfare state and their ability to flush that one night stand down the toilette and they would quickly see the light.


"So, now you think (actual) 12th century CHRISTIANS are way, way better than (today's) 12th century moslems?! Really? How, then, do you differ from today's moslems, if you hold up as an exemplar the Christians from the 12th century? "

But you would be happy to destroy millions of blacks and browns for the sake of the alt-right? Aren't you so enlightened. You support the murder of innocents because, golly, some women might get stuck barefoot in the kitchen if they couldn't flush away that indiscretion. You are a proponent of murder. You are a proponent of an act that undermines family formation and stability. People who advocate for abortion like you, are every bit as anti-western civilization as the Moor and should be treated as such. 12th century Christian may have been more barbarous by our standards but they saw far more clearly who the enemy was and if it wasn't for them you wouldn't be here spouting off such idiocy.


"The future belongs to those who show up."

No, the future belongs to those whose SIDE WINS! Right now

sigh...the stupid hurts. In multi-generational warfare, the side that shows up is pretty damn important. Even if they lose battles they can still when ultimately.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 21, 2016 4:28 PM  

@Avalanche;
How many of your children have been killed in the womb. How many of those did you insist on killing and even pay for their murder?

Blogger Orville December 21, 2016 4:33 PM  

@56 Exactly Shimshon. Give their home countries the NORK treatment. Not a dime, not even a grain of rice. Let them have their 5th century paradise.

Blogger Feather Blade December 21, 2016 4:35 PM  

@Avalanche

Being against abortion is part and parcel of reclaiming western civilization from those who would destroy it.

If a woman does not wish to have children, then let her remain celibate, or let her marry a man equally opposed to having someone to care for him in his old age.

And yes, if a woman is foolish or unlucky enough to get pregnant by someone to whom she is not married, she must at least carry the child to term and give birth, as a matter of justice. She doesn't have to raise it: that's what adoption and foundling hospital are for.

It's not a matter of either/or. It's a matter of both/and.

Now. Stop being insecure and start behaving with the dignity appropriate to a widow of your age.

Blogger haus frau December 21, 2016 4:35 PM  

@96 I don't know who brought up abortion, whether it was avalanche or someone else but you are clearly the one preoccupied with the issue on this thread. Your verbal incontinence comes off as one big concern troll of the Christian alt-right; "cater to my pet issue or no one will like you!"
No one gives a crap about you, your opinions, your dead husband and his business. Likewise no one is the least bit surprised that you didn't manage to reproduce. The Christian alt-right will do quite well without your approval as it is the modern representative of the Christianity that made the west great.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 21, 2016 4:40 PM  

I do agree that your depiction of women through the ages, Avalanche, is too influenced by today's feminism. The story of women in the Christian west is not one of despair and deprivation. Far from it. Just yesterday I saw a drama play out along these lines on Tucker Carlson's excellent new show, when he had a feminist guest claiming that the old Christmas standard, "Baby, It's Cold Outside" need to go because it was date rapey.

Central to her argument was that women of the 1940s lacked "social agency" and independence. Which is flatly untrue. Human nature has not changed, and then, just as now, women hold all the cards in deciding if a man gets laid or not. Arranged marriages happened, sure, but this has never been the typical way of things in America (nor in the Christian west discounting the aristocracy -- look to the East for that). This view of women in the 1940s as simpering, over-socialized automatons lacking free will and agency strikes me as incredibly absurd.

Rita Hayworth, no shrinking violet, adorned the fuselage of the Memphis Belle over Hamburg. Meanwhile her sister-in-arms in Hollywood, Heddy Lamar, was writing mathematical proofs for the war effort still used and studied today in cryptography. This was the age of Rosie The Riveter, the very icon of female empowerment, as women rolled up their sleeves. All of them had just lived through the Great Depression.

Having lived through dual nightmares, global depression followed by global war, they greeted the boys coming home with great joy. That famous photo of the sailor and the dame in Times Square was not staged, and as great as it is it yet fails to capture the overwhelming exuberance of, "Baby, thank God you made it home!" and the epic waves of baby-making that ignited, gleefully, by these amazing dames.

They were tough as nails. Every one of my female relatives from that generation are tough as nails, fiercely independent, at least, so unlike their granddaughters who are now out there explaining, wrongly and incredibly, what "Baby, It's Cold Outside" now means and searching to take offense for all these micro-aggressions. Today's women are the ones I feel sorry for. What has happened to them? They are victims of feminism, they are not empowered by it.

Feminism is near the top of the list of things that have to go. It's holding women back and infantilizing them, if you ask me.

Blogger Elder Son December 21, 2016 5:25 PM  

The war started the day Franklin said: If you can keep it, and Jefferson said: The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 21, 2016 5:37 PM  

(I thought Christianity when through some sort of enlightenment and reform? No?)

No. People who share your way of thinking have tried to neuter it and water it down, and succeeded in convincing many people that Christianity is nothing more than a charitable society of people who put their faith in Jesus (as long as He doesn't demand too much in return) and try to be nice to others. But that's not what Christianity is, ever was, or ever will be.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 21, 2016 5:49 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Alas, no. But there is a HUGE difference between forcing women to bear kids they may not be able to raise; and working to support women who CAN and should have children.

Brown people are fully able to raise and support kids despite being flat broke, so why can't we?


Why should we ? I'm not going to (paraphrase Everlast) subject my children to the joys of a welfare Christmas for "Christendom" , "The West" "America" or the "White Race"

I would for a tribe if I had one but a tribe unlike those abstraction is family and it will do something for me.

No matter what comes about, if the West is to survive it will have to have an economy that works and it will like it or not have to deal with wealth distribution

Give and take.

If we are too busy shrieking about Communism , bragging about replacing people with machines or truculently refusing to change, we deserve the consequences

Those of us West of the Haijnal line tend to K selection and K selection is expensive.

Anonymous Avalanche December 21, 2016 5:56 PM  

@102 "How many of your children have been killed in the womb. How many of those did you insist on killing and even pay for their murder?"

Not one. I am actually ANTI-abortion. But I'm also reasonable (well, "for a girl") an accept Mother Nature's rules. I was a good girl and never got pregnant. Not saying I was a virgin till marriage (at age 41), but I was raised well, and went to college at the very early beginning of the 'sexual revolution' -- so was not damaged like so many young women today.

My advice list specialized in teaching young women how to *gracefully* say NO to sexual requests by men -- the theory being that religious girls could say "No,I won't: God wouldn't like it." but the non-religious girls couldn't even any longer say: "No,I won't: 'cause my daddy wouldn't like it." NO one had ever TAUGHT these young women how to say no!


However, I'm guessing from the ... recent ... comments, that I have way overstayed my participation on this thread. I am dismayed that there is such vitriol towards young women who are only doing what "their" society tells them is the right way to act.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 21, 2016 6:26 PM  

I am dismayed that there is such vitriol towards young women who are only doing what "their" society tells them is the right way to act.

Ah, I'm not sure that's what it is. Everybody knows both sexes are to blame. But nobody knows what to do about it that's not pretty much what the Muslims do.

I think there's probably a better way, but it definitely doesn't involve abortion.

Anonymous The Observer December 21, 2016 7:09 PM  

I am dismayed that there is such vitriol towards young women who are only doing what "their" society tells them is the right way to act.

If women are so easily bamboozled and manipulated by others into doing evil and have no agency of their own, they should not be making any decision more important than what to cook for dinner, let alone vote or make their own reproductive choices.

The vast majority of them have proven themselves as much.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 21, 2016 9:28 PM  

Boko Harambe wrote:Nits make lice. Burn the whole plague of vermin out. However, that violates the right of people to live as they see fit, in their own lands.
They lost that right when they sent their hordes into ours.  Now they must pay.  We must extract a sufficient price that the survivors carry a cultural memory that prevents them from doing it again... if there are any.

@15  We can get rid of the war mongers and lie factories on our side much more efficiently than they can.  Obviously they are on the same side and deserve the same fate, only more so.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2016 12:35 AM  

Avalanche wrote:Avalanche supports repealing the 19th amendment! (I'd prefer it were replaced by voting requiring status as a "land- or business-owner" (as I am both...).

It's really all about you, isn't it?

Your position on abortion is a cartoonish demonstration of why women are generally unfit for suffrage, and is an abomination to God.

We have heard you tell us, over and over, what you think is good for you. You are foolishly, sinfully wrong, and we really don't care about how you feel.

Blogger Badger Brigadon December 22, 2016 12:40 AM  

married (at 41)

someone please get this worthless cunt out of here.

Anonymous Discard December 22, 2016 3:09 AM  

Avalanche: We can keep women barefoot and pregnant, and beat the invaders too. Ignoring sexual revolutionaries in order to fight the foreigners is like shooting at the armored knights and ignoring the sappers undermining your walls. In fact, restoring sexual balance to society is more important that deporting post 1965 iminvaders. A sexually healthy nation would have no problem expelling the unwanted.

Anonymous John December 22, 2016 5:32 AM  

I for one do agree with Avalanche. Every black or other nonwhite aborted is one less to steal my money via welfare or burglary. Imagine how many of them we would have, how bad the percentages would be against us, were it not for how many of them were killed in the womb.

The problem with this arises when Moslems are added to the equation, as now we have a subversive minority who is not destroying their future numbers and now the white abortions are a proportional crisis instead of a proportional advantage.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction December 22, 2016 1:00 PM  

"Only a fool worries about his beard getting cut to short when his head is on the chopping block"

Blogger Matamoros December 22, 2016 3:29 PM  

64. DemonicProfessorEl

We, Christians, need to quit sending aid, food, clothing, medicines, etc. to the 3rd world of Islam and Africa. Neither have ever proven able to develop or sustain a civilization other than at the mud hut level. (And Moslem civilization is an oxymoron. They took over the civilization of the conquered and flourished while they bled it to death, then back to the mud hut).

Very good overall, but Christendom needs to be restored under the understanding of the Two Swords which the Catholic Church developed to create Western Civilization (Christendom).

Blogger Matamoros December 22, 2016 3:48 PM  

I would strongly recommend that everyone read Rodney Stark's book, God's Battalions: The Case for the Crusades
https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Battalions-Crusades-Rodney-Stark/dp/0061582603

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