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Sunday, December 18, 2016

The hate-filled echo chamber

It's fascinating, is it not, how the media and the SJWs - but I repeat myself - try to simultaneously dismiss the Alt-Tech alternatives as hate-filled echo chambers of racism and conspiracy theories while simultaneously celebrating the banishment of everyone who doesn't submit to the Narrative enforced by the SJW thought police on Big Social Media. Of course, if they could successfully connect consequences to actions, they wouldn't be SJWs.

A Guardian rabbit cautiously ventures, undercover, into the terrible dark abyss of GAB:
In the wake of Donald Trump’s presidential victory, it was said that Twitter had helped swing the election for the property developer, reality TV star and insatiable tweeter. But some of his more high-profile supporters on the so-called “alt-right” who have had their Twitter accounts suspended are abandoning the platform in favour of a new social network called Gab.

The self-styled cult iconoclast Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart has apparently joined the likes of Trump attack-dog Ann Coulter and the excitable Alex Jones of Infowars in signing up with Gab. There is even a parody RealPresidentTrump account that for a short while presented itself – all too convincingly – as the real thing.

And recently the white nationalist leader Richard B Spencer went so far as to claim that Twitter had sent “execution squads across the alt-right” to purge users with far-right views. He predicted that Gab would be “the place where we go next”.

The brainchild of its 25-year-old Christian conservative founder, Andrew Torba, Gab promises to guarantee free speech, no matter how offensive. It is currently in the early “beta” stage of development and there is an extensive waiting list to join. When I applied, wanting to take a look at the site, I was told there were more than 400,000 applicants in front of me, and was advised that it could take a week before I was allowed on.

Instead I used the login of a colleague in America and spent 48 hours in a strange world of Trump worship, white nationalism, racism, conspiracy theory, gun idolatry and crass humour, all of it delivered with the righteous conviction of total certainty. The effect is a little like viewing the world through a circus mirror while being constantly told that this is what reality looks like....

Twitter and Facebook are commercial enterprises that advertise themselves as neutral places of communication, which inevitably brings complications. Some of the fake news that Facebook promoted during the election is thought to have helped the Trump campaign. And Twitter, which has been used to circulate Holocaust denial and other scandalous nonsense, is slowly coming round to a more interventionist monitoring of content.
They're like bossy little children who can't bear to be left alone.

"We don't want you here! Go away! You are banished from our tree house!"

"Um, okay. Later." (goes and builds own tree house)

"Hey, hey, hey, can we come in? Why won't you let us in?" (secretly climbs tree)  "Hey, hey, you're not doing it right! This tree house sucks! Why can't we play here? I know, let's vote on some new rules about what everyone can do!"

Never think, for one single moment, that SJWs won't invade Gab, Infogalactic, and every other successful Alt-Tech site and attempt to take them over. It won't work, of course, but don't think they will simply leave them alone.

They also appear to have conveniently forgotten, already, that it is the circus mirror people who are in possession of the reliable predictive model. As Aristotle wrote, some people simply cannot be educated by mere information.

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61 Comments:

Blogger Al From Bay Shore December 18, 2016 8:08 AM  

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Blogger Rick December 18, 2016 8:10 AM  

That Guardian piece is a free ad for Gab.

Blogger William Hudson December 18, 2016 8:42 AM  

Since I've never twittered, but have read many tweets, I checked out GAB just to read the posts. I did sign up, but I'm not sure when, or if I'll be accepted.

I WOULD like to be able to read what Gabbers have to say without having to jump thru a lot of hoops. Guess I'll just wait and see how things shake out.

Anonymous Dave December 18, 2016 8:46 AM  

"Hey, hey, you're not doing it right!

Laughs> they're all californicators at heart.

Blogger SteelPalm December 18, 2016 8:46 AM  

In addition to the many lies, I'm impressed at how slovenly writer Andrew Anthony is.

He couldn't even be bothered to sign up for the waiting list and get in 2-3 days later! This, despite Gab being well-known for a month by the time (December 17, 2016) the article was published. Which also makes me think that he wrote the article very quickly, at the last moment.

Andrew Anthony isn't just dishonest. He is also lazy and stupid.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus December 18, 2016 8:46 AM  

A cold day in solstice, the SJW mood the color of Twitter tuned to a dead hashtag; the clocks strike 13 as a Guardian rabbit cautiously ventures, undercover, into the terrible dark abyss of GAB.

Blogger allyn71 December 18, 2016 8:56 AM  

He couldn't even be bothered to sign up for the waiting list and get in 2-3 days later!

I have been trying to get in for over a month. Waiting list # was same today as it was last time I checked.

Anonymous Espantoon December 18, 2016 9:02 AM  

#7 Ditto. I've been waiting for 6 weeks (since 10/30). Since they are still in beta, is this long a wait typical?

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2016 9:06 AM  

Check your junk mail folder. At least one of the spam groups is marking Gab emails as spam.

Anonymous jon December 18, 2016 9:07 AM  

OT, but something you usually cover -- "A blind eye to sex abuse: How USA Gymnastics failed to report cases"

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2016/08/04/usa-gymnastics-sex-abuse-protected-coaches/85829732/

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus December 18, 2016 9:09 AM  

Aww, The Guardian now has its own Patreon account-

Since you’re here…

…we have a small favour to ask. More people are reading the Guardian than ever but far fewer are paying for it. And advertising revenues across the media are falling fast. So you can see why we need to ask for your help...

If everyone who reads our reporting, who likes it, helps to pay for it our future would be much more secure.


You want a vision of the future? MSM hacks selling their Pulitzers on the street corner.

Blogger Shimshon December 18, 2016 9:17 AM  

OT converged GitHub, like Twitter, is hemorrhaging money.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is-building-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap

Blogger tz December 18, 2016 9:18 AM  

Wired shows itself to be converged

They foul their own nests, then have to look for another.

Blogger The Kurgan December 18, 2016 9:19 AM  

Hahahahha good

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 18, 2016 9:24 AM  

"Gun idolatry" I'm in.

Blogger Mighty Lou December 18, 2016 9:31 AM  

None of these hacks provide any evidence when they say fake news helped Donald Trump win. What fake news? Specific examples of articles would hen very helpful along with a commentary on how that so called peice of fake news helped him.

Anonymous JAG December 18, 2016 9:41 AM  

Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus wrote:
You want a vision of the future? MSM hacks selling their Pulitzers on the street corner.


With the jackboot of Pepe on their face... forever.

Anonymous Dave December 18, 2016 9:46 AM  

Hey tz, how about a head's up next time if you link to tor dot com. Almost five days later still no comments; gotta suck to write for tor dot com.

I went to Wired dot com looking for the first ever science fiction issue; could not find anything on the home page, did some searches; still nothing. Finally clicked the link from tor dot com.

It's on tor dot com slash content slash magazine. That's great if you know wired publishes a magazine; I still cannot find any way of getting there from wired dot com.

Anyway, its got the 2016 Hugo Award winner herself.

Blogger SteelPalm December 18, 2016 9:48 AM  

@7 and @8

Search for "GAB" in your e-mails. You probably got the beta invite (with a registration link) weeks ago.

Anonymous #8601 December 18, 2016 9:55 AM  

The fake news on Facebook helped Trump. Right.

Well, maybe it did but not in the way the Guardian thinks.

Blogger chris December 18, 2016 10:02 AM  

I like the term "Crony Media".

Also, the cool thing about facebook introducing fact checkers is with Trump opening the libel laws, facebook as it's "fact checkers" are in for a s^*t tonne of lawsuits.

Anonymous Dave December 18, 2016 10:10 AM  

https://www.wired.com/magazine/the-scifi-issue/

Some stories can be read there otherwise it appears you have to be a subscriber. It'll be interesting to see how many Wired subscribers care about a sci-fi issue.

Blogger Wanderer December 18, 2016 10:20 AM  

Never think, for one single moment, that SJWs won't invade Gab, Infogalactic, and every other successful Alt-Tech site and attempt to take them over. It won't work, of course, but don't think they will simply leave them alone.

What systems are in place to prevent social justice convergence? Remember that SJWs are like muslim immigrants and, while still a tiny minority, will hibernate and not begin to spread their cancer until they sense safety in numbers. Don't be surprised if Infogalatic or Gab or Brave already have SJWs staffers still in hibernation mode waiting to strike.

Blogger Timmy3 December 18, 2016 10:21 AM  

Makes me wonder why they conveniently forgot about Journolist where the MSM makes up their Fake News.

Anonymous Hieronymous Hamad December 18, 2016 10:32 AM  

From Gab:
Top posts on Gab: multiple prayer requests.

Top post on Twitter: Trump makes a spelling error.

You can just feel the hate can't you?

Blogger SteelPalm December 18, 2016 10:38 AM  

@23

Vox addresses this in SJWs Always Lie at length. Even being on the lookout for SJW entryists and expelling them as soon as they show their hand zaps most of them.

Anonymous Sevatar December 18, 2016 10:39 AM  

"The self-styled cult iconoclast Milo Yiannopoulos"

They can't help but project can they. Considering sjws resemble the red guard shouldn't it be them which are the iconoclasts?

Blogger pyrrhus December 18, 2016 10:41 AM  

"And Twitter, which has been used to circulate Holocaust denial and other scandalous nonsense, is slowly coming round to a more interventionist monitoring of content."
We noticed. We also noticed that Twitter lost billions in value in the process...SJWs never learn.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 18, 2016 10:53 AM  

"The effect is a little like viewing the world through a circus mirror while being constantly told that this is what reality looks like....

I felt the same way when I was listening to NPR on the way home from work this morning. It was the only slightly amusing thing on.

Anonymous Dave December 18, 2016 11:02 AM  

Milo has posted twice on Gab in the last month and a total of 51 times since joining; not exactly a major influence on Gab. His posts do average over 460 upvotes, however.

Also Ann Coulter is not on Gab. Some of her people from her website are posting as a placeholder.

Alex Jones/Infowars: not even sure they're on Gab?

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 18, 2016 11:03 AM  

It never ceases to amaze me just how arrogant these people are. So lacking in self-reflection and humility.

I will admit that the certainty with which some (myself included) on the right state their positions sometimes bothers me.

But the difference is that I think "we" are much more likely to examine those positions much more objectively and with circumspection.

I think that is reflected in the apparent fact that people are much, much more likely to move from the left to the right than the opposite (though I have no data it appears to be so). And that's after having had some experience which opens their eyes and makes them examine the world anew.

But I still regularly go thru this re-examination of my views, especially when I feel quite certain about something.

Blogger Nate December 18, 2016 11:06 AM  

the Alt-Right advocates adopting the tactics of the left using them harder.

Yet we never use entryism.

I very much look forward to the day when conservative moms infiltrate the girl scouts and take it back from the psycho lesbian child rapists.

Blogger Reinhard Lohengramm December 18, 2016 11:16 AM  

@11

Not only are they begging for donations, they beg in such a whiny way. They won't get many donations:

"More people are reading the Guardian than ever but far fewer are paying for it."

i.e. few people are giving us money. Bad social proofing.

"If everyone who reads our reporting, who likes it, helps to pay for it our future would be much more secure."

i.e. our future is not secure. We are not a reliable investment.

"But we do it because we believe our perspective matters – because it might well be your perspective, too."

i.e. The only thing justifying our position is that you may share it. We have no real principles.

Anonymous #8601 December 18, 2016 11:22 AM  

Nate, in my area, Scouts went f-ing co-ed!

Anonymous BBGKB December 18, 2016 11:30 AM  

spent 48 hours in a strange world of Trump worship, white nationalism, racism, conspiracy theory, gun idolatry and crass humour

Didn't anyone tell him that even gays are starting to buy guns, but as the following shows it doesn't always work out right http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/15/potd-fight-got-ikea-chest-rig/

Top post on Twitter: Trump makes a spelling error.

A spelling error or a crack at Obama not being an effective president? He actually drew more attention to Obama's failure.

Anonymous Galactic Starfleets of Deplorable Spartacus December 18, 2016 11:30 AM  

Hieronymous Hamad wrote:You can just feel the hate can't you?

Um hmm. Feel the hatred, smell the fear-

... far fewer are paying for it. And advertising revenues across the media are falling fast.

[if you help us out] our future would be much more secure.

Blogger Nate December 18, 2016 11:42 AM  

"Nate, in my area, Scouts went f-ing co-ed!"

exactly. Its classic over reach and its precisely the sort of thing that right wingers could use to black knight themselves back into power.

Blogger VD December 18, 2016 11:42 AM  

The result is 14 stories from N.K. Jemisin, Charlie Jane Anders, James S.A. Corey, John Rogers, and others.

The same SF-SJWs as usual. How very exciting. Talk about a way to turn people off to science fiction.

Blogger VD December 18, 2016 11:44 AM  

Don't be surprised if Infogalatic or Gab or Brave already have SJWs staffers still in hibernation mode waiting to strike.

You do realize I literally wrote the book on the subject, right? Do you REALLY think any of us are likely to be surprised by anything in that regard?

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 18, 2016 11:48 AM  

Well, today the WaPo came out against the Virgin Mary, for setting to high an example. So, in case had any doubt, you should be disabused of it by now. The Left is demonic.

Like the angry crowd gathering outside Lot's door, they will demand entry, to infect and spread.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 18, 2016 12:03 PM  

It never ceases to amaze me just how arrogant these people are. So lacking in self-reflection and humility.

I will admit that the certainty with which some (myself included) on the right state their positions sometimes bothers me.

But the difference is that I think "we" are much more likely to examine those positions much more objectively and with circumspection.

I think that is reflected in the apparent fact that people are much, much more likely to move from the left to the right than the opposite (though I have no data it appears to be so). And that's after having had some experience which opens their eyes and makes them examine the world anew.


It goes both ways. Disillusionment with the GOPe caused me to go through a questing sojourn as a left-libertarian agnostic, in which I discovered some things.

One was that left-libertarianism is a lie; you only end up empowering left-authoritarians. The other is that God exists, His angels protect me, and His law is written on my heart.

But I still regularly go thru this re-examination of my views, especially when I feel quite certain about something.

Any fool can doubt someone else. Rational skepticism is self-skepticism.

It's true that I brought back a habit of stating my opinions confidently, because that's more persuasive. But instead of waiting for correction by the rabbit warren, I'm waiting to pivot on contradictory evidence.

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 18, 2016 12:17 PM  

32. Nate December 18, 2016 11:06 AM
I very much look forward to the day when conservative moms infiltrate the girl scouts and take it back from the psycho lesbian child rapists.



two major problems for those of the Right attempting entryism:
1 - disgust is a thing for us; we actually avoid those things which disgust us. Leftists revel in those things which are disgusting, to themselves as well as ( especially ) us

2 - those of the Right are going to be required to participate in various of the Leftist perversions and shit tests ... and we're not going to be willing to go along with it.

consider the kind of crap you'd have to do in order to be accepted into something like the Stephen Universe 'creative' team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38aX4JxINQ


this is not to say that it cannot be done, obviously O'Keefe and Daleiden have been very successful.

the very perversity of the Left functions as a useful shield against us.

Blogger Dirtnapninja December 18, 2016 1:05 PM  

bob kek mando ( NABTY ) wrote:two major problems for those of the Right attempting entryism:

1 - disgust is a thing for us; we actually avoid those things which disgust us. Leftists revel in those things which are disgusting, to themselves as well as ( especially ) us

2 - those of the Right are going to be required to participate in various of the Leftist perversions and shit tests ... and we're not going to be willing to go along with it.


The left is a beast that is evolved for subversion. Natural selection has made them superb at entryism and subversion. That's why converged organizations so often fail..with nothing left to subvert the organization cannibalizes itself.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2016 1:05 PM  

You know...absolutely know, that they are going to go after the Dragon Awards this year.

Not sure what tactic they will try but they are going to go after them.

Blogger Phelps December 18, 2016 1:20 PM  

The effect is a little like viewing the world through a circus mirror while being constantly told that this is what reality looks like.

Hey, jackass, go look at the election results -- Gab is reality. Twitter is the funhouse mirror.

Anonymous Elipe December 18, 2016 1:37 PM  

The Right doesn't perform entryism or subversion because we're the immune system. The Left are the pathogens, and pathogens frequently must evolve ways to subvert the immune system or avoid detection.

You know what the immune system does to pathogens it does get its hands on, right?

Anonymous Beau December 18, 2016 2:38 PM  

OT

Therefore having be justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 5:1

Merry Christmas!

Blogger Happy LP9 December 18, 2016 2:56 PM  

What a wonderful thread!

42 and 43 Much agreed thank you for speaking for some of us with a very small voice. ++

30 and 46 (everyone) Merry Christmas and Merry Christmas to everyone! I am so thankful, happy and elated with this post! Gab is so happy, so real and so great! I adore Gab @ LP9. Earlier today I even asked at Gab if Ann Coulter, our dear Annie to arrive to Gab along with Katie Hopkins. We also have Spacebunny at Gab, another amazing caring rational woman of honor whom is an "another adorable."

46; Sure the immune system targets and ends the threat or the invasion of that which ruins good health.


Hate filled post of Vox's? Nope, not at all. There is no hate here or at Gab or at AJ - its the pple whom don't agree with others as their complete bizaaro world level of thinking has hollowed them into the untenable.

I no longer know how to define it; stupid pple or delusional.

Vox is correct when he notates/documents the childish to sophomoric behaviors or the, Thee Case Book study that is SJWAL.

Torba to Baby Adorable Nero or Milo to Cerno to other GenXers listed here are neither impressed with nor sanctioning the insane globalist or whatever we'all call policies that have led to a rejection of thinking in exchange for feelings, ending cursive writing for printing and finally no more rational thought in exchange for feelinz and social studies - this will all die out as economics to history dictates reality. The Alt Tech is something we must celebrate and honor!

In fact those listed including Vox to Milo to Andrew Torba are great men worthy reading and worthy of our gratitude.Let us celebrate the patriarchy from the past to now.

Some are concerned that the election will be stolen or hyjacked from Trump to another's hands as they are anti never Trumpers as they are suicidal, Bernie and Fricking HRC are NOT the answer. Our POTUS will be Trump and then his kids that is a dynasty I can live with; normal pple.

Blogger Timmy3 December 18, 2016 3:14 PM  

Entryism doesn't work for the Right because they kick us out. Anything worth being in becomes less so.

Blogger Happy LP9 December 18, 2016 3:16 PM  

Again, I do not understand this talk of hate filled talk here to Gab. Vox Day's blog to Cerno's and other genxers even our young'uns like Milo to Mr. Torba are not hateful. But rational, joyful, family centric, great folk whom I am happy to encourage and support - not that they need me but still count on my support and the support of WV's youth ages 18 to 48.

Gab is a place where there is such joy, happiness and fellowship. (A special hearts and hugs to Beau, I'm praying for you. I am happy you are alright, robust and reaching others for Jesus please pray about my dads wishes to pass on and be with mom, our wife.

I ask that all our dear boomers and elderly are robust, healthy and safe from any evil. I ask our Lord to deliver us all from evil and our Jesus is Right There helping, fighting our Battles and placing our lives into His Will and His Timing. I with deep gratitude tell everyone how much our family (mom, dad and I) have grown from reading here and other ally outlets. Thank you from the Polverini's!

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot December 18, 2016 3:40 PM  

"But, but ... we demand equal access to everything!"

"Including our SECRET MEETING ROOM in the basement? Right this way!"

"Amazing ... they're taking us to their SECRET MEETING ROOM!"

"Right through this door, ladies and gents ..."

[closing sound of a well-armoured door with a very small aperture]

"WAIT ... YOU'VE LOCKED US IN A DUNGEON?!?!"

"Quite rightly, in fact ... it's what you lot try to do to us, given half a chance."

:-)

Anonymous Brick Hardslab December 18, 2016 3:44 PM  

Bob k,
When I saw Steven universe I forbid my kids from watching it. I was not aware of any of the fuse crap our the lesbian junk. It just rubbed me the wrong way. No wonder decent people can't have anything to do with these perverts.

Anonymous Trent Denton December 18, 2016 4:39 PM  

No matter what, the Democratic Party isn’t going to back down from aggressively defending minority rights. It just can’t. That’s because in the near future, the Democratic Party is going to be in the opposition, which means it will inevitably be striking a posture of resistance to much of what President Trump and congressional Republicans do. That agenda is likely to feature a major assault on various constituencies that will simply require Democrats to mount an aggressive, sustained defense of them.

Biggest problem is white racists get offended if you call them racist. But no one is supposed to be offended by their

Anonymous Stryker4570 December 18, 2016 4:56 PM  

This whole Syria thing pisses me off. The situation is as bad as it is because we funded, armed and trained the so called 'moderate rebels.' The whole affair would have been over in a few months with minimal civilian casualties if we had not thrown gas on that fire. Now we have to endure scolding harangues from the Left about how brutal Syria and it's ally (Russia) are in putting down a rebellion and civil war funded by us. It would also be over if Obama had the balls to act after that false flag poison gas attack, the infamous 'Red Line' Leftist's live in a fantasy land where they are always morally and intellectually superior everyone else.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 18, 2016 4:56 PM  

Trent Denton wrote:Biggest problem is white racists get offended if you call them racist.
The bigger problem is that 80% of the country is, by your account, racist. Hard to get people to vote for you when you spend all your time and energy attacking and maligning them.

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 18, 2016 5:22 PM  

52. Brick Hardslab December 18, 2016 3:44 PM
When I saw Steven universe I forbid my kids from watching it. I was not aware of any of the fuse crap our the lesbian junk.



*shrugs*

hey, you know more than me. until i saw that video i had never even heard of the show.

i just figured people ought to know what the ((( producer / writer ))) was.

Blogger bob kek mando ( NABTY ) December 18, 2016 5:26 PM  

53. Trent Denton December 18, 2016 4:39 PM
No matter what, the Democratic Party isn’t going to back down from aggressively defending minority rights.



how much longer til Whites are a minority in their own nation again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGhyFHnuv8

so then, Whites will be a minority?

so then, the Democrat party will start fighting to defend White rights? again?

you know, like how they used too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WbLGlIzW88

Blogger Thucydides December 18, 2016 6:10 PM  

That post looks like it was transmitted from some alternate universe.

Is it going to be nominated for a Hugo? Chuck Tingle will need to up his game if so.

Blogger ant becker December 18, 2016 7:24 PM  

I ignore the cunts and go and play Rust.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 18, 2016 7:56 PM  

Brexit is stalled, the Italians want a vote on ItExit.

GerExit vote next year?

NEARLY half of all Germans want to hold a referendum on their nations EU membership – with a survey suggesting almost two-thirds of Germans are unhappy and want change in the crumbling Brussels bloc.

Blogger Happy LP9 December 19, 2016 1:45 AM  

60 German natives cannot bear with the rape and the invasions they are exereicing, its only breeding nationalism and hard core young pple whom dont want their lives turned upside down over these bullsh-t refugees whom are not youths or children but grown non Christian militant scary-barrys.

We have to pray about Italy, there is a idiot woman whom wants natives or locals in Italy to house refugees IN THEIR homes with their white children and on their dime in spite of the EU financially raped Italy enough! Who the hell let this filth anywhere near political power?!

NO NO AND NEIN, this is untenable and dangerous. I pray Italy will and are fighting this. Also the story about this woman trying to force Italians or natives to house totally suspect DANGEROUS strangers in their home is gone from the web or at infowars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-funsv5mhg

This is not compassion, this is an invasion against natives to house and let occupy their homes and their resources, this is sick and insane. Nationalism will rise and bubble into what it was always meant to be Italy for Italians, Russia for Russians, Finland for Finnish, etc., the social engineering and crying about failed nation states is not the EU's fault, its the fault of retarded, regressive war like races fighting with each other, BFD, white pple are not to blame and NOT at fault.

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