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Tuesday, December 06, 2016

This is true

Sarah Hoyt, we are pleased to report is alive, while her fellow Mad Genius wonders what, exactly, the SF-SJWs expect the Sad Puppies to do about me, and by extension, the Rabid Puppies:
Essentially as result of inactivity the Puppies left the field to Vox and “Raptor Butt invasion.”  Which was funny for a while, but after a while you realize that it’s puppy butt that’s being invaded.

OMFG. I don’t know whether to beat my head against the wall or the OP’s. That statement is not that much removed from that of the other side telling SPs they had to denounce Vox or it proved we were all cut from the same cloth. One thing those of us closely involved with the Sad Puppy movement learned in 2015 is that there is nothing anyone can do to rein in Vox. We would have had Raptor Butt no matter what. Vox will do what he wants, when he wants and he doesn’t give a flying fuck who he bumps against in the process.
That's why it's important to pursue anti-fragility if you are not inclined to submit to being thought-policed. It gives one that freedom to think, speak, and act as one sees fit. That doesn't mean I'm free of all constraint, of course, it's only that I am answerable to my supporters rather than megacorporations who could not care less about me and ideological enemies who seek to destroy my career and many of the things I value as well as many of the things in which I believe.

As for Rabid Puppies, I don't know exactly what we'll do yet next year; with the Hugo rules changes and the establishment of the Dragon Awards, new strategies are required. It's always wise to reassess the situation when it changes, and the ongoing growth of Castalia House also means that we have to reconsider and prioritize our objectives. But regardless, we'll always have "Space Raptor Butt Invasion", and we'll always sport these with pride.


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Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable December 06, 2016 8:16 AM  

Glad Sarah is alive. Dying can definitely interfere with your work.

Blogger Boko Harambe December 06, 2016 8:21 AM  

Being free of as many constraints as you can is the goal.

I garden...next year perhaps garden might be a limited term for my endeavors, as I hope to full on farm my 1/2 acre as much as I can. And I network with other growers and producers, and support local biz, and Day by day do with less. Provincial? Maybe. Old fashioned and Catholic and bourgeois as well.

Either way, no matter your field or station, you must cultivate that Thing you do well that no one can afford to leave you behind, or cultivate the Thing that makes it easy enough for you to leave them off.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 06, 2016 8:25 AM  

You are well constrained. We must stand at the gates of Decency and shout, "Please, Dark Lord, may we not enter these today!"

Anonymous Alexander December 06, 2016 8:33 AM  

I'm old enough to remember when SJWs told the sads they needed to disband. Now, it's because they aren't mobilized enough that they are problematic...

Sads, join us! They hate you no matter what but believe me, it's not puppy butts that are experiencing the butthurt.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2016 8:33 AM  

I'll assume that Sarah being a conservative has a dark abiding superstition about actually challenging the Left's ownership of the Moral level of conflict.

Blogger 1337kestrel December 06, 2016 8:35 AM  

VC Andrews' output increased significantly after her death. I want to say Tupac's did too.

Blogger Big Yehudah Chris B. -tetra- December 06, 2016 8:41 AM  

I would like a Rapid Invasion of a non-shit editor for Infogalactic such as visual editor.

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 8:43 AM  

I would like a Rapid Invasion of a non-shit editor for Infogalactic such as visual editor.

Performance is a more important issue. We'll add the visual editor in the reasonably near future.

Blogger Bill December 06, 2016 8:47 AM  

Vox will do what he wants, when he wants and he doesn’t give a flying fuck who he bumps against in the process.

Even if Vox tramples science in the process.

"Philosopher Kwame Anthony Appiah says race and nationality are social inventions being used to cause deadly divisions"

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/18/racial-identity-is-a-biological-nonsense-says-reith-lecturer

(Have you ever seen more transparent nonsense masquerading as propaganda? Guess the Alt-Right has made it into what's left of Britian)

Blogger Eric Mueller December 06, 2016 8:48 AM  

I wasn't a puppy of either kind, but this has been a lot of fun to watch from the sidelines.

I didn't think the SJWs would EVER figure this out. They'd just keep doubling down until the universe dies a heat death, since they're incapable of learning.

Blogger Salt December 06, 2016 8:52 AM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:Glad Sarah is alive.

#PortugalMatters

Anonymous LurkingPuppy December 06, 2016 8:52 AM  

Vox wrote:
As for Rabid Puppies, I don't know exactly what we'll do yet next year;
Is there enough finished material ready for RTRH vol. 2 that you could publish some mil-SF anthology this year?

Alexander wrote:I'm old enough to remember when SJWs told the sads they needed to disband.
How can this be!? I thought you were born yesterday!

Anonymous Tony Clemens December 06, 2016 8:53 AM  

Social Justice means you stand against evil

http://verysmartbrothas.com/joe-mcknight-is-dead-and-his-killer-is-free-because-his-life-didnt-matter-enough-for-him-to-be-alive/

How can anyone with a heart not agree with the link above?

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 8:54 AM  

Is there enough finished material ready for RTRH vol. 2 that you could publish some mil-SF anthology this year?

No. We'll get TWBW Vol. XI out in 2017.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 06, 2016 8:58 AM  

I assumed the Sad Puppies had faded into irrelevance, for the same reasons the Never Trumpers have begun to.

Blogger Johnny December 06, 2016 9:02 AM  

That's why it's important to pursue anti-fragility if you are not inclined to submit to being thought-policed. It gives one that freedom to think, speak, and act as one sees fit.

Just thought it was worth repeating. Something I noticed a long time ago is that you don't get truth or information out of a lot of people until after you piss them off. Then they respond.

Anonymous Gecko December 06, 2016 9:06 AM  

there is nothing anyone can do to rein in Vox

This is complete crap. The question is not whether Vox will listen to reason, but whether the forces opposing him are reasonable. Vox strikes me as one of the more likely people to admit when he has made a mistake and correct himself if - and this is a big if - the criticism is actually sound.

Antifragility gives one the freedom to judge whether a force is legitimate and to resist it if not. When you're fragile, your only option is to hope and pray that your masters will be kind.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 06, 2016 9:07 AM  

#13 Mcknight was prime evidence in the corruption of football a wasted 4th round pick by that caste whore Rex Ryan who maintained a roster spot while Danny Woodhead was waived.

Blogger MisesMat December 06, 2016 9:09 AM  

Vox, I just went to John C. Wright's Amazon page and his latest Castalia book does not appear!
https://www.amazon.com/John-C.-Wright/e/B001IR1FZS/ref=pd_sim_351_bl_4?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=NB3H9DVSCK6SP56BB1H5

Is there some way to get "The Swan Knight's Sword" up there?

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 9:14 AM  

Is there some way to get "The Swan Knight's Sword" up there?

He has to do it, since he controls his author page. Let him know.

Blogger Bill December 06, 2016 9:23 AM  

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Anonymous Just another commenter December 06, 2016 9:23 AM  

I've got my shirt. Most common reaction so far is some variation of "what's a Hugo?"

The "Trumpslide" tee just just clenched teeth and signs of suppressed rage.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 06, 2016 9:26 AM  

@1 - for most of us, yeah, that's true. But around 2K years ago, dying sort of established a movement of sorts for the die-ee :-)

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 9:28 AM  

I've yet to see him admit that the Iraq war of 2003 was a legal war, with a legal declaration of war and all that.

Because it wasn't. And you're not going to derail the thread with a discussion of it either.

Blogger Bill December 06, 2016 9:30 AM  

OK

Anonymous ChildofOldLeech December 06, 2016 9:33 AM  

You do realize that the author of "Space Raptor" is now working with Zoe Quinn? That he basically used you and your followers for profit, all the while making you look bad?
It's remarkable that you are still presenting anything related to that affair as your own victory. You were trolled, used, bamboozled.

Blogger Gordon December 06, 2016 9:35 AM  

Boko Harambe wrote:Being free of as many constraints as you can is the goal.

I garden...next year perhaps garden might be a limited term for my endeavors, as I hope to full on farm my 1/2 acre as much as I can. And I network with other growers and producers, and support local biz, and Day by day do with less. Provincial? Maybe. Old fashioned and Catholic and bourgeois as well.


I'm learning gardening also. More every year; investing in solid, 2X8 cedar for the raised beds instead of the cheap stuff. Last night I dug up the last of the harvest, a couple of potato plants that volunteered from the year before. About five pounds of Purple Viking spuds came up. Have you ever had a baked potato that was in the ground 2 hours before you ate it? You don't need salt, pepper, butter or sour cream--it is amazingly good plain. Well, I did add some salt, pepper and butter, later, but still.

Catholic stuff: I'm not Catholic. But some of my best friends are, really. One family I know, six daughters, bought a hobby farm. They raise goats for meat, and they garden big time. One year, they decided not to buy anything new, for a year, other than some perishable groceries. They managed it.

Anonymous O.C. December 06, 2016 9:35 AM  

> there is nothing anyone can do to rein in Vox. [...] Vox will do what he wants, when he wants and he doesn’t give a flying fuck who he bumps against in the process.

Sigh. I told them all that years ago, when this whole SFWA/Tor/Hugo thing started. No one listened.

Blogger Bill December 06, 2016 9:37 AM  

You do realize that the author of "Space Raptor" is now working with Zoe Quinn? That he basically used you and your followers for profit, all the while making you look bad?
It's remarkable that you are still presenting anything related to that affair as your own victory. You were trolled, used, bamboozled.


Clearly you don't understand this whole 4D chess thing. Zoe Quinn? BWA-HA-HA! Birds of a feather and all that.

Blogger Gordon December 06, 2016 9:40 AM  

"You do realize that the author of "Space Raptor" is now working with Zoe Quinn? . . . You were trolled, used, bamboozled."

You just keep on believin' that, lil fella. But just in case you are capable of learning, try to understand this: We Don't Care. Just having that nomination read out loud at the dinner was worth the money we all spent for memberships.

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 9:45 AM  

You do realize that the author of "Space Raptor" is now working with Zoe Quinn? That he basically used you and your followers for profit, all the while making you look bad?

I think it's amusing that you think Zoe Quinn's games make any profit. They barely have revenue.

It's remarkable that you are still presenting anything related to that affair as your own victory. You were trolled, used, bamboozled.

I think it's amusing you think Chuck Tingle sold more books than I did. I sell more paperbacks of SJWAL in a single day than Tingle sells of everything in a month. Your revisionist version was always nonsense, which is why Space Raptor didn't win the Hugo.

I can't wait to hear your explanation of events when Castalia's sales eventually surpass Tor's, which is going to happen sooner than anyone imagines possible.

Blogger VD December 06, 2016 9:46 AM  

Sigh. I told them all that years ago, when this whole SFWA/Tor/Hugo thing started. No one listened.

You did. You really did.

Anonymous Eumaios December 06, 2016 10:06 AM  

@Tony Clemens

Normal justice would sort out the problems evident in the link you provided. But that is not good enough for the SJWs (like you), because justice as conceived in the Western doctrine is designed to apply across all races, ethnicities, and indeed across the full spectrum of "intersectionality".

I now find myself on the alt-right, because people like you have convinced me that you, and those like you, will NEVER be in a position to defend the liberal/ libertarian principles I believe in. Western justice can clearly only work in a situation in which single racial and ethnic groups live within a defined geo-political ambit, because otherwise the spectre of intersectionality (identity-division), will emerge again and again until Westerners like myself are spent or bred out, and our concepts of decency, justice, and culture will cease to exist.

People like you actively work against Western individualist justice, and will never stand for the cultural products that will link me to my progeny. You also may outnumber those like me in the West, and you and your kin certainly have the upper-hand regarding institutional representation. Thus, only two options are available to those like me. I can either resign myself to being one of the last Western classical liberal individualists (with a love for Western/European culture and tradition), or I can join with the only ideological group actively fighting against those who would make me one of the last generations of liberal Westerners. To any person taking responsibility for the world they leave to their children, the correct, if imperfect, choice is clear.

Social justice does not oppose evil, it is the evil that needs to be opposed. Articles like the one you sent me just remind me how urgent it is that this opposition picks up speed and grows.

Blogger SteelPalm December 06, 2016 10:15 AM  

I originally thought the link of @13 was a slick parody of black culture written by a raging white supremacist that thought Calvin Candy was the hero of Django Unchained. "Man, he sure makes blacks look terrible with this parody!"

Imagine my amusement when I found out that it was in fact a genuine site written by actual blacks visited by a great many other blacks.

Anonymous Avalanche December 06, 2016 10:18 AM  

@13 "How can anyone with a heart not agree with the link above?"

Easily. Blacks do not LIVE in America -- they make up free-floating colonies **of Africa**, planted in soil where they do not grow. (No Magic Dirt here!)

Until blacks (esp. middle- and upper-class blacks!) quit whining and complaining that WHITES are not doing enough for "the black community" -- and start to fix their OWN people (if that's even possible!) -- I have no sympathy, no empathy, no interest AT ALL in blacks being murdered. (Or for them not being hired or being fired or not being allowed to move into White neighborhoods to benefit from what WHITES make of their neighborhoods and workplaces and blacks never do with their own!)

Only 4% of black "murders" are by cops (very often justified!): yet the lying racial-spoils violent activist group calling itself BLM raises high-holy-hell; disrupts working people's movement; burns neighborhoods (usually their own, and how stupid is THAT?!); and attacks and harms WHITES (even when their 'cause' is a black cop who killed a black male). They're hysterical (and violent!) over that 4% -- and they pretend the NINETY-SIX PERCENT (black-on-black murders) does not exist! (And never bothers with black on WHITE murders! "Dog bites man.") Fuck 'em!

Following is just a tidbit from here: http://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.


There is *no way* I will be moved to give a damn about 'black people' as long as they are lying, violent, disruptive, destructive, and murderous! (Oh, and rapey -- very very rapey -- of White women AND men!) Make your people WORTHY of my consideration and I might reconsider. Otherwise? No chance in hell.

Anonymous BGKB December 06, 2016 10:19 AM  

Which was funny for a while, but after a while you realize that it’s puppy butt that’s being invaded

It turns out leftists do think this way http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/bestiality-as-a-sign-of-r-selection/

#PortugalMatters TransPortugalMatters

You do realize that the author of "Space Raptor" is now working with Zoe Quinn?

Zoe has blown a lot of guys since gamer gate I hope he uses protection. I guess if you only have one talent.

Imagine my amusement when I found out that it was in fact a genuine site written by actual blacks visited by a great many other blacks.

I believed in equality until I encountered enough reality.

Blogger James Dixon December 06, 2016 10:19 AM  

> As for Rabid Puppies, I don't know exactly what we'll do yet next year; with the Hugo rules changes and the establishment of the Dragon Awards, new strategies are required.

As long as we can keep the no awards flowing, it's worth it.

Blogger SteelPalm December 06, 2016 10:23 AM  

If we're posting amren links about the realities of black thugs and savagery, the following is an absolute favorite. It's more rhetoric than dialectic, and thus more persuasive;

http://www.amren.com/features/2014/05/confessions-of-a-public-defender/

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 06, 2016 10:24 AM  

@34, verysmartbruthas is a very ironic name.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 06, 2016 10:45 AM  

A definition of Alpha from one of my favorite sites for, say, those a priori more inclined to ratiocination:

"""
Being an alpha has to do with one's involvement in a group. More specifically, it's about the helping develop and maintaining a group dynamic, hierarchy and the functionality of the group. And this not just for your own benefit.

Being an alpha is about leadership and taking care of others...

Before you can understand what an alpha is, you first need to understand something about the nature of power. Namely: Power is granted to you by the group. You don't have power unless other people give it to you.

Here's the catch, the group gives you power on the condition that you look out for their needs. That's the deal. You get extra power to serve them. If you violate this trust then you will be stripped of your power by the group.

That simple point is the biggest stumbling block for people who want to be leaders but are not cut out for it. Such people are incapable (or unwilling) to look out for anyone's interest except their own.
"""

http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/alphabehavior.htm

Blogger Johnny December 06, 2016 10:49 AM  

Only 4% of black "murders" are by cops

You can get a current running tally of shootings in Chicago at HeyJackass.com

Currently it is 670 shot and killed, with 11 shot and killed by cops. Cop killings are a little under 2%, and of course some of the cop shooters are going to be black.

Also, info on the frustrations of cops is routinely presented at the Second City Cop website. Somewhat biased, but you know it is there side of the story.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 06, 2016 10:51 AM  

I found some interesting language in that article that inspires a thought:

"""
It is perhaps here that the absolute worst misconception about alpha behavior is made. It is also one of the fastest ways to spot a beta trying to ape an alpha. One version of this attitude is "I'm the alpha, I get the best, you get the scraps." Another version is "Everything is mine and you have no place." [Ed: Emphasis mine.]
"""

This gives me another idea for how to break down the four main male ranks:

Alpha: Natural leader acting like a leader
Beta: Natural leader acting like a follower
Delta: Natural follower acting like a follower
Gamma: Natural follower acting like a leader

Blogger Austin Ballast December 06, 2016 10:51 AM  

As long as we can keep the no awards flowing, it's worth it.

I think the new rules are supposed to guarantee a Tor nominee in each category. Thus the SJWs will always have a choice they support.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 06, 2016 10:52 AM  

Sigh. I told them all that years ago, when this whole SFWA/Tor/Hugo thing started. No one listened.

This is why I don't believe in time travel. Not because of the challenging physics, but because even if an insightful fellow with a certainty about historic events could travel back in time with proof of the future, absolutely no one would pay attention to him.

Sorry to hear of your Cassandra Syndrome, O.C. Get well soon.

Anonymous fish December 06, 2016 10:58 AM  

Way way OT for this thread but looks like somebody has done an excellent job of fleshing out the Pizzagate story over at unz.com!


http://www.unz.com/article/pizzagate/

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 06, 2016 10:59 AM  

I think the new rules are supposed to guarantee a Tor nominee in each category. Thus the SJWs will always have a choice they support.

That tenuous SJW alliance couldn't hold together long enough to vote in a Clinton. I wonder if they'll be able to slate themselves past Finland.

Besides, does Tor publish SF anymore? I thought they were just a browser now.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 11:00 AM  

13. Tony Clemens December 06, 2016 8:53 AM
How can anyone with a heart not agree with the link above?



the fact that someone is dead has no bearing on whether or not they needed killing.

and, given that once again, the Niggers are lying ( shocking, i know, who could have predicted this? )

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/12/ronald_gasser_joe_mcknight_sho.html
"The information contradicts a witness account given at the scene of McKnight's death Thursday at a Terrytown intersection. The witness had said she saw Gasser shoot McKnight twice, then stand on top of McKnight and fire once more.
"Mr. Gasser was in his vehicle when he fired three shots
,""

we really don't know what happened.

although it would be really bizarre for it to have been the Honky escalating this, given that it was the Porch Monkey who was out of his car and at the window of the Honky's car.

VeryStoopidBrothas starts from the assumption that 'unarmed' Black means, somehow, "no physical threat". which is absurd on it's face. people get beaten to death fairly regularly.

Porch Monkeys occasionally kill Polar Bears entirely by 'accident', whilst hunting them.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 11:05 AM  

26. ChildofOldLeech December 06, 2016 9:33 AM
It's remarkable that you are still presenting anything related to that affair as your own victory. You were trolled, used, bamboozled.



it's remarkable that we are still presenting anything related to the presidential election as our own victory. we were trolled, used, bamboozled.

nope, never seen that artificial narrative before.

Anonymous 4388 December 06, 2016 11:07 AM  

@Aeoli Pera
Close, but rough. Beta = Natural Lieutenant. He's not acting like a follower. He is a follower. And at the same time a leader.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 11:21 AM  

https://madgeniusclub.com/2016/11/22/really-2/
Amanda
The OP also seems to have forgotten that Vox Day and his Rabid Puppies made their appearance in 2015, hijacking much of the movement and muddying the waters for so many who weren’t intimately familiar with what the SPs were after, leading people to think the two groups were basically the same.


if they weren't so Low Energy, Rapid Puppies wouldn't be where all the excitement is.

Anonymous BigGayKoranBurner December 06, 2016 11:21 AM  

If we're posting amren links about the realities of black thugs and savagery,

Even the faggots here post stuff from http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/

Porch Monkeys occasionally kill Polar Bears entirely by 'accident', whilst hunting them.

They wont start anything less than 5-1 odds without a sucker punch.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 11:49 AM  

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2016/12/his-name-is-john-dow-73-year-old-white.html

13. Tony Clemens December 06, 2016 8:53 AM
How can anyone with a heart not agree with the link above?



i mean, come ON! clearly, that Honky deserved to die. that's what you get for voting Trump.

Blogger William Hudson December 06, 2016 12:08 PM  

@50 & 51: Private Hudson approves of these SBPDL links!

Blogger RobertT December 06, 2016 12:09 PM  

"Vox will do what he wants, when he wants and he doesn’t give a flying fuck who he bumps against in the process."

Greater words were never spoke. Ringing endorsement as far as I'm concerned. Truth is truth. Dark is dark. No sense pretending otherwise.

Blogger RobertT December 06, 2016 12:18 PM  

?? " Too many engines. insufficient injuns. Good thing Vox Day was the little engine that could ..." ??

Vox isn't pulling anybody's trains. He is providing the intellectual underpinnings in ways that others can't. While others have noticed the movement and are rushing to the front & elbowing others out of their way because "I am their leader" Vox is filling in the gaps that have been overlooked in the rapid rise of the Altright. Vox is the Marx & Engels of this movement.

You can always tell a man's stripes by how quickly

Blogger RobertT December 06, 2016 12:22 PM  

... he morphs into one of those who are more interested in publicity and getting their opinions on the record, than they care about the movement itself ... These people are talking, but they aren't listening. Vox listens.
Spencer? / Certainly not Vox.

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 12:49 PM  

your train is fine, BobT, your train is fine.

{ Vox Gayness intensifies }

Blogger Thucydides December 06, 2016 1:22 PM  

Frankly, the Hugos are no longer relevant. Keep your focus on the Dragon Awards and make sure you publicize them. The SJW's can continue to award themselves gold stars, but have no way to force people to buy and read their crap, especially now that more platform like the Dragons and Castellia House exist to provide alternatives.

I suspect that announcing the Rabid and Sad Puppies are focusing their attention of the Dragon awards in search of quality work to support will be an interesting Aikido move against the Hugos, SFWA and the SJW's in general. They will feel compelled to crow loudly about it, but will still be providing publicity to the very things they profess to hate......

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash December 06, 2016 2:35 PM  

Gecko wrote:there is nothing anyone can do to rein in Vox

This is complete crap. The question is not whether Vox will listen to reason, but whether the forces opposing him are reasonable. Vox strikes me as one of the more likely people to admit when he has made a mistake and correct himself if - and this is a big if - the criticism is actually sound.

By "rein in", she doesn't mean "convince through sound observation and logical argument to change his approach", she means "through assertion of authority or appeals to emotion, get him to give up his own goals for the good of the movement."

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 3:32 PM  

58. Snidely Whiplash December 06, 2016 2:35 PM
to emotion, get him to give up his own goals for the good of the movement."



notice that she assumes that she is the one who gets to define "the good of the movement."

Blogger SteelPalm December 06, 2016 4:07 PM  

@50

Well yeah, I imagine everyone here is aware of SBPDL and the excellent Paul Kersey. Goes without saying.

Blogger J Carlton December 06, 2016 4:38 PM  

I suppose that that's what you get for trying to honestly air your views.
https://theartsmechanical.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/the-sad-puppies-should-have-done-better/
Frankly the effort for Sad puppies was mostly "not there" last year and in spit of what Amanda thinks it was not personal and if I forgot anything, I could always check my running series of blog posts about the whole kerfluffle. Strategies going forward? Push authors that we like and mock the Torlings mercilessly.

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 07, 2016 12:29 AM  

4388 wrote:@Aeoli Pera

Close, but rough. Beta = Natural Lieutenant. He's not acting like a follower. He is a follower. And at the same time a leader.


Yeah, that one doesn't feel right.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 07, 2016 10:22 AM  

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Blogger Tom Kratman December 07, 2016 10:23 AM  

The enemy is too stupid to realize it, but you have the initiative in the Hugo Campaign. They have been on the defensive since SP I. It would be a pity to give up that initiative, which would allow them to leave off the defensive and take up the attack, possibly targeting the Dragons. My initial impression, at least, of the rules changes are they really don't change anything.

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