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Sunday, January 08, 2017

Back to 14

After watching parts of two nearly unwatchable wildcard games yesterday, I feel more strongly than ever that it is time to go back to the 14-game regular season and eight playoff teams.

I understand there is, for the time being, more money to be made from 16 games and 12 teams. But once something peaks, it either contracts sensibly in a cyclical manner or it collapses. The NFL should be thinking long term, as the demographic trends are against it, the quarterback-development breakdown in the NCAA is against it, and everything points to contraction eventually being the order of the day.

Not every move the Goodell-era NFL has been made is bad. The concussion protocol is sensible, the eight four-team divisions are great, and the emphasis on the divisional rivalries has helped maintain interest beyond the largely meaningless scramble for the last two playoff spots. Does it really matter who the two sacrificial lambs are when they only have a chance if the other team is starting its untested third-string quarterback?

If Goodell wants to really put his stamp on the game in a positive manner, he'll focus on making the game stronger rather than mindlessly chasing dollars until the entire edifice collapses. The problem is that the NFL is still thinking in terms of expansion when the situation has changed and they should be thinking in terms of maintaining what they have.

This will serve as today's wildcard-round post. One hopes the games will be better than yesterday's.

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Blogger Tank January 08, 2017 8:35 AM  

You are right, but there is no chance of them doing what you suggest, not until the money stops pouring in.

Anonymous dr kill January 08, 2017 8:35 AM  

When you're right, you're right. You're right.

Blogger David The Good January 08, 2017 8:47 AM  

Go Dolphins. That's all.

Blogger JACIII January 08, 2017 8:53 AM  

But, If it isn't growing it's dying! This is the mantra of the modern manager/ corporate officer. The NFL will seek to chase that extra dollar at all costs until it has to be restructured in some manner. Or it will become just another scripted reality show.

Anonymous J. J. January 08, 2017 9:04 AM  

"But, If it isn't growing it's dying! This is the mantra of the modern manager/ corporate officer."

I know it's OT but thank you for mocking this mantra. Where it's made me cringe most is when people say it about a church, usually just before they leave a small but sold local church in favor of the latest megachurchianity du jour.

Blogger Johnny January 08, 2017 9:05 AM  

I am still semi-boycotting it, but I have watched a couple of these final games and got all irritated by the number of white men are dorks or worse ads. In some games they are numerous enough to be easily noticeable, which is too many even on a propaganda level, and it is never good to irritate the customer. They should make the networks mindful of it and require some kind of fix. It has long been noticeable to me that the networks have staff who disdain the game and the fans. That should not be allowed to show through.

Part of the reason for flooding the market with games is to keep out competitors, and maybe justifiable for that reason. Drop teems and a startup league is ampt to form.

If something is to be cut it should be the pre season games that go first. And as a fan I liked it a lot better when there were far fewer teams.

Blogger Adm Trell January 08, 2017 9:07 AM  

Yeah, yesterday's games made it painfully obvious that more is not better, in the playoffs. Those games yesterday were just agonizing to watch

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid January 08, 2017 9:07 AM  

The last several years of NFL ball have been getting just depressing. The overemphasis on the passing game and poor quality of young QBs means most teams are just SOL anymore, as there aren't enough good QBs out there. I (mis?)remember that in the 80's/90's even a half-decent QB could be paired with a good RB and O-line and a team could be competitive.

If you can't get enough good QBs to field 32 teams, then you either need fewer teams or rule changes to make running profitable again.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 9:17 AM  

14 games. 12 teams. If the year had ended in week 14 it would've been the Chiefs at the Titans with mariota healthy. Would've been a great game.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 9:17 AM  

Carr would've still been healthy too.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 08, 2017 9:20 AM  

Yes please 14 regular season games cut it back to two preseason less play offs earlier end of season yay

And ban pink anything on the field

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 9:46 AM  

The worst thing about the pink is that it actually looks good with the Titans uniforms. And that's just so awkward

Blogger allyn71 January 08, 2017 9:48 AM  

Gay

Anonymous JAMES January 08, 2017 9:50 AM  

Still amazed Americans watch this crap.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 08, 2017 10:00 AM  

We need DC Sunsets here to remind us of manias and credit bubbles. America is a pseudo rich country which can afford its TNB, absent the "wealth" I would bet the vast majority will find TNB to be the cause of much of their wealth disappearing.

IMO evaporate that wealth and I would bet that the NFL becomes a prole only sport and then so much for luxury sky boxes and spending hundreds just to sit in the end zone seats. FTR I think the NFL does a good job of scrubbing away the worst excesses of TNB to make it look like the average black NFL player is a cut above the 'Murkan average.

Blogger seeingsights January 08, 2017 10:01 AM  

@8
I agree that the passing game is over-emphasized.
I'm a Bears fan and I remember the superb defense they had in the 1980s. Watching a team which a superb defense is just as fun for me as watching a star quarterback.
Nowadays a team with an average defense can win the Super Bowl if their offense is among the league leaders.

Blogger David The Good January 08, 2017 10:09 AM  

@Nate

Comment of the week. That should be a t shirt.

Anonymous Mister M January 08, 2017 10:12 AM  

What we're seeing is the difference between Rozelle and Goodell. Rozelle pissed off owners because he knew what the fledgling league needed at the time, and how to make it last. Now there seems to be no future orientation. None of the sports seem to be willing to hear bad news, as George Karl's book about what everyone knows about the NBA is getting pilloried.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 10:19 AM  

Today's matchups are intriguing. First time Big Ben, Bell, and Brown have played together in a playoff game. Miami rushed for over 220 yards against them earlier this year, but they will be starting the backup QB.

Giants much improved secondary against red-hot Rodgers. Eli Manning has won just as many playoff games at Lambeau Field as Rodgers; two each.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 10:26 AM  

I agree, with the 4 divisions, dropping two regular season games should be little problem. IIRC the reason they adopted 16 (and 1 wild-card team) was due to the 3 divisions, a home and away for each division team plus 4 non-division/conference games. If they really need the two extra games, do it like when it was 14 - six preseason that don't count in the standings with no cutdowns until after ps game 4.
To put it bluntly, the season is too damn long, before the SB era, the championship was typically right after Christmas. It's why they came up with the two week delay, to steer the SB away from the college bowl games.
As far as the Pro Bowl is concerned, make it a preseason game - either merge it into the HOF game or rotate it among northern/dome cities - Orlando in July or August sucks, as I well know.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 10:34 AM  

Also.. Vox... Goodell mate. Roger Goodell. I think auto-correct changed it to Gooden in your post

Anonymous Walter Oleg January 08, 2017 10:35 AM  

I think moving the extra point back was good. How about it become a 50 yard kick? How about 75 yards uncontested?

I once had a black teammate of mine tell me that every football game has a black team and white team.For example, in the last Superbowl Denver was the white team. The one before that NE was the white team. When New Orleans played Indianapolis NO was the black team. He always cheered for the black team.

The Patriots are always the white team.

Blogger pyrrhus January 08, 2017 10:38 AM  

I would vote for the 12 game season, and a 140 game season in MLB. Quantity and quality are two completely different things...But the players unions would probably veto such changes, until the next financial collapse makes it a moot point.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 10:48 AM  

Come to think of it, though we'd all love to blame Badell for the playoff format, it isn't his fault. Rozelle added the first wildcard team to give one of the division winners an opponent in the first round. Then the two extra wild card teams specifically to squeeze more money out of ABC. When Tagliabue realigned, he kept the six playoff teams, and the format we have now.
Not only get rid of two regular-season games, but as Vox implied, do away with the wild card teams.
First round, #1 (seed) hosts #3, #2, hosts #4 and conf. champ @ highest seeded survivor.
Feb. SB's are like Nov. World Series games, just wrong.

Blogger BassmanCO January 08, 2017 10:56 AM  

Two points. 1), more than a couple of teams have won the Superbowl as a wild card in the past twenty years (Green Bay and Pittsburgh come to mind, can't remember the others off the top of my head). Those teams that get hot at the end of the year can be the most exciting.

2) I listen to some former players talk about how the NFL has changed and they say the worst thing the union did was cut down on practice time, especially contact drills. Apparently this has the most impact on the overall shitty line play (both O-line and D-line) right now.

I will also agree I am tired of all the pink/sjw/men are morons crap. I progressively watched less football this year as I found myself just not giving a crap about the NFL.

Blogger Tank January 08, 2017 10:59 AM  

@BassmanCO

The Giants, who play today, fall into that category.

Blogger BassmanCO January 08, 2017 11:00 AM  

Walter Oleg, Denver was the white team? I assume that was because of Manning? I think the defense (only one white player I can remember last year and he was a backup) who actually got them to that game and won it would disagree.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 11:00 AM  

Giants did it twice from the wildcard, Ravens too?

Blogger bearspaw January 08, 2017 11:03 AM  

The knowledgeable fan knows most of these suggestions would improve the game, but it is not about the fan. The commissioner works for the owners and his mandate is to continue to squeeze the golden goose.
Anyway, go fish!

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 11:08 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:I would vote for the 12 game season, and a 140 game season in MLB. Quantity and quality are two completely different things...But the players unions would probably veto such changes, until the next financial collapse makes it a moot point.
Actually I don't think the unions would mind at all, remember, contracts are pro-rated pay wise across the season. For example, Brady lost 4/16ths of this year's pay due to the suspension.
It's the owners and TV that would lose, which is why, as you mentioned, ain't happening.
Eventually the NFL will have to shrink somehow, either fewer games, possibly even fewer teams (MLB was considering that about 10 years ago) simply because the potential demand is beginning to overtake the supply for decent players.
The reason the XFL, then the World League/NFL Europe (as in players that moved to the NFL) had some success because they was a surplus of talent.
That's gone.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 11:10 AM  

All of the US professional leagues should reduce the number of regular season games. MBL from 162 to 142 and the NBA/NHL from 82 to 68. But they too addicted to that cha-ching.

Blogger Ryan January 08, 2017 11:16 AM  

have a 14 team premier NFL and a 1st division. You gotta get to the premier to win the superbowl. promotion/relegation of 2 teams per year. and a 3rd from top/bottom playoff for the 3rd teams to get promoted and relegated.

Blogger Amateur Brain Surgeon January 08, 2017 11:17 AM  

As a Raider Fan it must be said that the team did not have one player who performed up to his ability, but, to be fair to the Raiders, it is clear that Putin and Russia hacked their game plan.

Anonymous Henry Havelock January 08, 2017 11:19 AM  

Incidentally, what do you think of the NFL's London games? I know they are sold out here and a friend went to one this season and really enjoyed it. But it feels like a money making bridge way too far.

At this stage greed has turned the Premiership into something totally unrecognisable from what English football is. I find myself wanting my team to get relegated so I can go back to enjoying our traditional sport in its own setting: English football culture. Looks like I'll get my wish this season.

The change from the two-leg, knock-out tournament European Cup to the Champions League was also a change for the shittier.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 11:28 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:We need DC Sunsets here to remind us of manias and credit bubbles. America is a pseudo rich country which can afford its TNB, absent the "wealth" I would bet the vast majority will find TNB to be the cause of much of their wealth disappearing.

IMO evaporate that wealth and I would bet that the NFL becomes a prole only sport and then so much for luxury sky boxes and spending hundreds just to sit in the end zone seats. FTR I think the NFL does a good job of scrubbing away the worst excesses of TNB to make it look like the average black NFL player is a cut above the 'Murkan average.

To put it bluntly, ''fans in the stands'' don't really matter that much. Post-merger, it was set as home gets 55% of the gate, visitors 45%. The skyboxes, the 'first class' club seats and things like local radio, local TV during preseason, concessions and parking fees are the only things not shared among teams.
Again, that was Rozelle.

Anonymous Eduardo the Magnificent January 08, 2017 12:01 PM  

The eight 4-team divisions is great for the league because it makes for a wonderfully tight schedule. The format is simple: you play each of your division opponents twice, then each division plays an entire other division (ex. NFC East played AFC North this year) on a rotating basis, so every team is guaranteed to play each other at least every seven years. To fill the remaining six games, you play a team from each remaining division, based on last year's standings. Division winners play each other, last place teams play each other, etc. This creates the parity Goodell wants, because every year someone goes from worst-to-first, usually because of the cupcake schedule (Cowboys), and some team goes first to worst for the same reason (Panthers).

As it stands right now, it wouldn't quite be fair to eliminate wild-card teams and keep only division winners, since there is so often a team that won their division solely off of schedule. If you want to reduce wild-card teams, you have to reduce divisions, which means contracting teams. A 30-team league with 6 5-team divisions and a 14 or 15 game schedule would probably work. Let the playoffs be the division winners and one wild-card. This shortens the season (or gives an extra bye week), shortens the playoff schedule a week, and gives us quality playoff games across the board.

The problem with doing that is that most new football fans (read: women) don't care about quality football. They only like their team, or their boyfriend/husband's team, or a particular player, or just gobs of touchdowns. They won't watch if their team doesn't have a shot. They won't watch a defensive struggle, either. The league will have to fall back down to earth before anything changes, which won't happen until the women leave. Sports Guy is right again.

Anonymous Eduardo the Magnificent January 08, 2017 12:13 PM  

To put it bluntly, ''fans in the stands'' don't really matter that much. Post-merger, it was set as home gets 55% of the gate, visitors 45%. The skyboxes, the 'first class' club seats and things like local radio, local TV during preseason, concessions and parking fees are the only things not shared among teams.

That's why you're seeing new stadiums being built left-and-right. I think the format now is home teams gets 2/3, and the rest is split evenly amongst all the other 31 teams. Luxury boxes and suites don't count toward that total. Every stadium now is packed to the gills with luxury boxes, while bowl seating has remained flat or been reduced. And since they can get the taxpayer to cover the expense of building, why wouldn't you get a new stadium every ten years? Socialism at its finest.

Blogger BassmanCO January 08, 2017 12:18 PM  

I think Bill Simmons suggested an extra bye week to coincide with the Thursday night games, so teams weren't playing two games within four days. I can't remember the logistics, but it made sense. Stuff like that is the only thing the league would be willing to roll back, since they could do it without losing $.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 12:28 PM  

Randy Moss is such a redneck

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 08, 2017 12:32 PM  

Leave the rednecks alone, Nate. They are grossly under-represented on the NFL Network.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 12:38 PM  

I mean it S a compliment.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 12:44 PM  

@34. Henry Havelock January 08, 2017 11:19 AM

Incidentally, what do you think of the NFL's London games?
Not a problem. The NFL is trying to make the best of a bad situation. Green Bay WI is the smallest NFL market. Although Green Bay is by far the smallest professional sports market in North America, its local fan and media base extends 120 miles south into Milwaukee, where it played selected home games between 1933 and 1994.
That's what the Jags are doing. They do about as well as the LA Lambs in their current home, so, like the Packers they need to go where more fans are.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 1:05 PM  

I really can't stand watching the Steeler D this year. Undersized all over the field... just getting manhandled in the run game.

Its blasphemy.

I am not even a steelers fan. I hate the steelers. And seeing teams do this to them is killing me.

I can't imagine how old school steeler fan is dealing with this. I assume booze.

Blogger James Dixon January 08, 2017 1:12 PM  

> I can't imagine how old school steeler fan is dealing with this. I assume booze.

A Steelers fan doesn't need an excuse for booze. Seeing their defense like this calls for the hard stuff.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 1:13 PM  

BassmanCO wrote:I think the only Thursday games should be the Lions and Cowboys night on Thanksgiving.
The NFL (like the rest of capitalism) has adopted the mantra ''Quantity has a quality all its own''
As Europe is learning the hard way, Quantity is not quality.

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 08, 2017 1:15 PM  

Nate wrote:I mean it S a compliment.

I know. I was just screwing around. I'd DVR Randy Moss spitting marijuana chaw with his buddies from Marshall while fishing and talking football. I can't remember the last time I watched the usual chatty cathies for anything but post-game stats. They don't even run the right replays anymore.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 1:21 PM  

you know the concept of a redneck black dude is completely alien to northern people.

I once had a guy from new jersey try to tell me that Forrest Gump was a dumb movie because Bubba's family was black and black people don't fish.

I just sat there looking at him.

Then realized it was all my fault for talking to someone from New Jersey.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 08, 2017 1:23 PM  

The NFL should be thinking long term

Lol, don't put any money on it.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 08, 2017 1:25 PM  

The league will have to fall back down to earth before anything changes, which won't happen until the women leave. Sports Guy is right again.

Yes. For various reasons, some not even of the league's doing, the NFL has gained a huge customer base of people who don't particularly like football; they just like the things that go along with it. Now the league is trying to keep those customers, which means appealing to them in various ways having little to do with the game. What changes they do make to the game are designed to promote big plays and drama (including replays) over good fundamental football that bores the casual fan.

Looks like the Chiefs can start getting ready for the Steelers.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 1:28 PM  

you know the concept of a redneck black dude is completely alien to northern people.

The Mailman, Karl Malone. From Louisiana.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 08, 2017 1:32 PM  

Nate wrote:The worst thing about the pink is that it actually looks good with the Titans uniforms. And that's just so awkward

It makes that blue just...pop.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 08, 2017 1:33 PM  

The biggest looming problem the NFL has is that it gets most of it's money from a dying industry.

They have to figure out how to get out of the middle of the dino-media's attempt to survive or they'll go down into the tar pits with them. The local NBC affiliate has taken to social media trying to whip up a mob - their contract with a cable company is up and the cable company doesn't want to pay what the station is asking. Turns out the only content the station has anyone really cares about are Seahawk's games, something the local station adds zero value to - they're just useless overhead.

Right now the NFL can make a lot of money pandering to the cable, satellite and broadcast industries fears of cable cutters, but by doing that, they're also limiting their audience and antagonizing fans.

The most important forward thinking the NFL needs to do is figure out an end-run around the networks.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 08, 2017 1:46 PM  

@43 @44

I feel for Carnell Lake. He's got the toughest job on that coaching staff right now, since parts of that secondary are hot flaming garbage. The rookies have potential, but when your lead CB is William "I was cut for a reason" Gay, it's rough.

It also doesn't help when you make draft picks in areas that don't really need help, like when they drafted Ryan Shazier. I still feel that was a waste of a first round pick.

This is where I think Terry Bradshaw was right in calling out Mike Tomlin as a cheerleader and not a great coach. I mean, he's got a decent record, but a lot of personnel decisions and tactical moves just tend to be mind blowingly stupid at times.

Of course, it looks as if resting Rothelisberger, Bell, and Brown was a good move last week. They seem to be firing on all cylinders just fine today. 2 TDs so far, and Bell's already at 70 yards at the start of the 2nd quarter.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 08, 2017 1:48 PM  

Of course, just as I hit enter, Bell breaks the century mark with that TD run, depending on if the officiating crew wants to get involved on that review.

Blogger Skyler the Weird January 08, 2017 1:50 PM  

It's only a matter of time before the TV money runs out. Massive importation of Central Americans and Kebab grillers is going to hurt as they like the other football.

I guess we'll soon learn if the conspiracy theory is true that a Giants/Patriots Super Bowl is assured. After last year's small market championship they need New York and Boston to increase ratings.

Walt I don't know why your friend chose Denver as the White Team aside from Manning. Carolina's stars were mostly Caucasian save for Norman and Newton. I guess he fell for Cam Newton's Superman spiel.

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin January 08, 2017 1:54 PM  

"The NFL should be thinking long term, as the demographic trends are against it, the quarterback-development breakdown in the NCAA is against it . . ."


A few years ago when former Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel admitted publicly that his best best offensive play was to "snap the ball to Terrelle Pryor and then sit back watch what he does," I though it was a shocking admission, but it was true. College football = little league: put your best athlete at quarterback and let him ad lib. As with Tim TeBow it works, but does nothing to prepare anyone to play QB in the NFL.

Another ominous trend--speaking from a major geographic headwater of the NFL--is that I suspect the best young athletes are no longer playing football but are instead opting for basketball. Think about it, if your kid was a LeBron James, a physical prodigy, destined by age 13 or 14 to be a pro athlete, would you let him anywhere near a football field?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 08, 2017 1:56 PM  

Nowadays a team with an average defense can win the Super Bowl if their offense is among the league leaders.

The last three SB winners all had top-10 defenses. In fact, of the last 6 teams to play in the SB, the only one without a top-10 defense was Peyton Manning's Broncos in SB48. Y'know, the greatest offense the league has ever seen, that got turned into a pile of dust by the LoB.

I think there was a time, 5 to 10 years ago, when the rule changes favoring the offense were still new some bad defensive teams like the Manning Brother's Colts and Giants could win, but that was before coaches figured out how to defend the new rules.

Blogger Cinco January 08, 2017 2:08 PM  

The Dolphins QB... Ouch.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 08, 2017 2:29 PM  

Nate, when the Redskins signed Josh Norman, I think a lot of people were surprised to hear he was going to need a place to stable his horses.

Anonymous Smile Of The Shadow January 08, 2017 2:34 PM  

I was just posting yesterday that these pre-postseason games are really a chore and they should get rid of them.

Anonymous logprof January 08, 2017 2:50 PM  

One positive trend I've seen is that quietly, subtly, the opposition has grown to a majority against the foolhardiness of expansion into Europe. What a stupid idea.

Anonymous logprof January 08, 2017 2:58 PM  

I'll play devil's advocate and point out that last year all the wild card teams won on the road in the first round.

The Chiefs blew out the Texans. The Steelers won mostly thanks to dumb penalties at the end by the Bengals. Seattle won in Minnesota thanks to a missed field goal. The Packers won handily at Washington, although it was not a blowout.

If the games thus far seem blah, it's partially due to the comparison with last year's anomalous results.

Anonymous The OASF January 08, 2017 3:02 PM  

You.

Me.

Bud Dupree.

Nuff said.

Blogger ArtH January 08, 2017 3:09 PM  

With the overt effort to make an obviously rough and tumble game safe for anyone to participate in, NFL football is gradually turning its players into stage actors looking for penalty calls after each play, faking being hurt when they were out-played, and in general, becoming like whiny soccer players who have long perfected the art of looking like they've just been crushed by a bulldozer when someone out-maneuvers them.

Blogger Rambam January 08, 2017 3:12 PM  

Show them how to make mo money. Always have to make mo money this year than last year and next year to this year or why give raises and have an annual meeting?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 08, 2017 3:29 PM  

In 1980 the Raiders were the first wild-card team to win the Superbowl they were an 11-5 team tho

Worst record division winner recently to win the Superbowl was the 2011 Giants 9 + 7 defeated the up till then undefeated Patriots.

Not sure what that means just sharing trivia. I'd still like less regular and postseason games

Anonymous logprof January 08, 2017 3:33 PM  

patrick kelly wrote:In 1980 the Raiders were the first wild-card team to win the Superbowl they were an 11-5 team tho



Worst record division winner recently to win the Superbowl was the 2011 Giants 9 + 7 defeated the up till then undefeated Patriots.

Not sure what that means just sharing trivia. I'd still like less regular and postseason games



The 18-0 Patriots team was in 2007, not 2011.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 08, 2017 3:39 PM  

"The 18-0 Patriots team was in 2007, not 2011."

Yeah, your'e right, got the seasons mixed up.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 3:42 PM  

Miami vs. cold weather city. I live in FL, I knew what would happen.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 08, 2017 4:54 PM  

Reducing the length of the season, for any sports league, is not really going to address the ominous problem the future presents: the sea change in how young people consume sports. Few in the smart phone generation have the patience or desire to sit through an entire 2- or 3-hour game. They'd rather fuck off with social media or video games or what have you, and just watch the highlights.

I'm a generation or two older, and that's already how I consume European football (where a worrying dip in live viewing figures, especially overseas, has been noted). The likely response in American sports is more teams and games, to "capture more markets" and "increase revenues" with an expansion in volume rather than quality (known as the central bank method), especially in light of the prevailing perception, perhaps not openly expressed, is that only leagues that are dying reduce their schedules.

Blogger YIH January 08, 2017 5:01 PM  

Nate wrote:I really can't stand watching the
Gator D this year. Undersized all over the field... just getting manhandled in the run game.

Its blasphemy.

I am not even a Gators fan. I hate the Gators. And seeing teams do this to them is killing me.

I can't imagine how old school Gator fan is dealing with this. I assume booze.

https://infogalactic.com/info/2016_Alabama_Crimson_Tide_football_team
It does help.

Anonymous JAG January 08, 2017 5:12 PM  

I'm fine with a 16 game schedule.

Eliminate all but two preseason games for each team with the exception of the combined Hall of Fame game and Pro Bowl (as mentioned above, and would be the first exhibition game to start each new season). I'd go back to NFC vs AFC, with the winning conference getting home jersey choice for the Super Bowl so there is some kind of meek incentive to actually try in the game.

I'd like to prune the league back to 28, or even 24 teams. Teams like the Browns can be eliminated as they suck in perpetuity, and aren't even the real Cleveland Browns. The real Browns are now called the Baltimore Ravens.

Cut down to 6 playoff teams per conference.

Go back to Dallas and Detroit on Thanksgiving Thursday. Those two games are plenty, and if they are the only Thursday games in the season they will go back to being somewhat special games late in the year.

Get rid of all pink as well as eliminate the politics. Players like Kaepernick should be fined till they go broke or stop shoving their politics down everyone's throats on company time. Likewise, warn the networks that they will lose their deals if they don't shut the Bob Costas left wing assholes the hell up about politics during games.

Cut down on commercials. Most TV shows in my lifetime follow a 1/3 to 2/3 commercial to show time. The NFL needs to get back to this ratio.

All teams must have hot chick cheerleader squads. No tranny cheerleaders (you just know that at some point the NFL will try this crap).

There's more I would do, but this is a good start.

Anonymous JAG January 08, 2017 5:16 PM  

logprof wrote:patrick kelly wrote:In 1980 the Raiders were the first wild-card team to win the Superbowl they were an 11-5 team tho

Worst record division winner recently to win the Superbowl was the 2011 Giants 9 + 7 defeated the up till then undefeated Patriots.

Not sure what that means just sharing trivia. I'd still like less regular and postseason games



The 18-0 Patriots team was in 2007, not 2011.


18-1. Not a fan of the Giants at all, but was so glad they ended the Patriots' bid for an undefeated season.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 08, 2017 6:06 PM  

The Giants-Packers game has been good. First-rate defensive contest.

Blogger Cinco January 08, 2017 6:13 PM  

Fuck Rodgers and his stupid hat.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 6:14 PM  

The most pathetic Hail Mary defense maybe in the history of football.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 6:18 PM  

All Rodgers did is heave the ball up for grabs but now he's the greatest Hail Mary QB of all time. Fuckimg idiots.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 08, 2017 6:43 PM  

All Rodgers did is heave the ball up for grabs but now he's the greatest Hail Mary QB of all time.

Is there any other skill set involved in a QB throwing a Hail Mary>

Anonymous Walter Oleg January 08, 2017 6:55 PM  

BassmanCO wrote:Walter Oleg, Denver was the white team? I assume that was because of Manning? I think the defense (only one white player I can remember last year and he was a backup) who actually got them to that game and won it would disagree.

It's mostly Manning and the city of Denver. If Seattle played Carolina the White team would be Seattle. They're from Seattle and they act less Ghetto. This is an art, not exact science.

Blogger Lazarus January 08, 2017 7:17 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Is there any other skill set involved in a QB throwing a Hail Mary>

ooh!ooh! pick me!

Ability to avoid the rush for the time it takes for the receivers to get in position without room for being led, superior distance and height WITH accuracy.

Other than that....

I think Rodgers is the only one to do it in 2 playoff games?

Blogger Skyler the Weird January 08, 2017 7:34 PM  

I guess that's one conspiracy theory that was all set.

Blogger Lazarus January 08, 2017 7:35 PM  

Play til the whistle, boys.

Blogger AdognamedOp January 08, 2017 7:37 PM  

Worst Wildcard weekend ever!

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 7:49 PM  

Ability to avoid the rush for the time it takes for the receivers to get in position without room for being led, superior distance and height WITH accuracy.

Nah, the most important thing is not to sail the ball out of the end zone. Neither of his Hail Mary's were particularly long, he's throwing to an area, and the ball is in the air before the receivers hit the end zone.

So Packers @ Cowboys next Sunday night...who would've thunk it 6 weeks ago?

Blogger Lazarus January 08, 2017 7:54 PM  

Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club wrote:They'd rather fuck off with social media or video games or what have you, and just watch the highlights.

Superficial attachment to life. Easier to commit suicide.

Can't know a game by the highlights.

Blogger Lazarus January 08, 2017 7:56 PM  

Dave wrote:Nah, the most important thing is not to sail the ball out of the end zone.

You're right! Nothing to do with accuracy at all.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 08, 2017 8:04 PM  

Well, it was 30 minutes of a good game.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 8:06 PM  

Rodgers is one of the most accurate QB's in the game; I just don't judge accuracy by throwing up a ball for grabs. You're not Joe Buck are you?

Anonymous Napoleon 12 pdr January 08, 2017 8:08 PM  

The real headache is that the NFL is too big. Were it possible, I'd have NO interconference play. Three divisions per conference. Each team plays the other teams in the division at home and away, all the teams in another division away, all the teams in the other division at home. Which means every team in a division plays the same schedule. Keeps things fair. But this would take going to 30 teams...or possibly 36.

Blogger Lazarus January 08, 2017 8:25 PM  

Dave wrote:You're not Joe Buck are you?

You are not a very nice man, Dave. Not a very nice man at all.

I can see you are very upset about this....


Just what do you think you are doing , Dave?

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 8:40 PM  

Just what do you think you are doing , Dave?

Is your mind going? Can you feel it?


@Napolean definitely not more teams, if anything we need less

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 9:31 PM  

" I just don't judge accuracy by throwing up a ball for grabs. You're not Joe Buck are you?"

The point Dave... is that Rogers completes that pass more than any other NFL QB. Any other QB it seems like a 1 in a million shot. Rogers back there and it feels like a coin flip.

Blogger Nate January 08, 2017 9:32 PM  

Because.. as we saw today....

Rogers is the devil.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 08, 2017 10:30 PM  

Can't know a game by the highlights.

Yes and . . . ?

Anonymous BBGKB January 08, 2017 10:58 PM  

http://pamelageller.com/2017/01/abc-enrages-nfl-viewers-anti-trump-promo.html/

I will actually watch the show to enjoy just like I did the view for the week after the election. Just have to watch I don't get elbowed like when I laughed in Marvel Civil War when it talked about a smart black who died doing charity work in the white nation flying city from the last avengers movie.

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