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Monday, January 30, 2017

"Christians" oppose helping Christians first

This is utter madness. It's time to start aggressively expelling the Churchians from the Church. They are worse than unbelievers. Since it's not possible to assist everyone, assisting non-Christians ahead of Christians means not providing for fellow Christians. Moreover, those Christian refugees aren't Americans and therefore don't belong in the United States anyhow. Assistance does not mean moving people permanently in next door.

Is there any doubt these people also oppose the America First policy as well?
Christian leaders have said they oppose Trump's decision to prioritize Christian refugees.

'We believe in assisting all, regardless of their religious beliefs,' Bishop Joe S Vásquez, who chairs the migration committee of the US Conference Of Catholic Bishops, told the newspaper.

One of the religious leaders speaking out against the executive order was Jen Smyers, the associate director for immigration and refugee policy of Church World Service, a ministry with more than 30 denominations in its members. Smyers said that Friday, the day Trump signed the executive order setting up the immigration bans, was a 'shameful day' for the US.

'Christ calls us to care for everyone, regardless of who they are and where they come from,' World Relief's senior vice president of advocacy and policy Jenny Yang told The Atlantic. 'That has to be a core part of our witness—not just caring for our own, but caring for others as well.'
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
- 1 Timothy 5:8

As we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith.
- Galatians 6:10

What Christ is that, exactly? Judeo-Christ? Antichrist? Meanwhile, are there any doubts about the Argentine Francine being the Pope of SJWanity?
Answering questions from young people in the group this morning, the pope said, “the sickness or, you can say the sin, that Jesus condemns most is hypocrisy,” which is precisely what is happening when someone claims to be a Christian but does not live according to the teaching of Christ.

“You cannot be a Christian without living like a Christian,” he said. “You cannot be a Christian without practicing the Beatitudes. You cannot be a Christian without doing what Jesus teaches us in Matthew 25.” This is a reference to Christ’s injunction to help the needy by such works of mercy as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and welcoming the stranger.

“It’s hypocrisy to call yourself a Christian and chase away a refugee or someone seeking help, someone who is hungry or thirsty, toss out someone who is in need of my help,” he said. “If I say I am Christian, but do these things, I’m a hypocrite.”
The idea that the worst sin is "hypocrisy" is straight out of the Left's playbook. Granted, we are told that faith without works is dead, but Francine isn't even disguising the fact that he is playing works police here. And speaking of hypocrisy, if there is anyone on this planet I suspect of not being a Christian despite claiming to be one, it is Francine himself.

Here is the question: if Jesus came, as we are told, to divide us, in whose service is Francine seeking to unite us?

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Blogger S1AL January 30, 2017 8:03 AM  

Comes from the top: http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/10/13/pope-francis-you-cant-defend-christianity-by-being-against-refugees-and-other-religions/

Blogger Bruce January 30, 2017 8:05 AM  

Ha ha ha! I love the reference to Warhammer 40K.

Blogger JACIII January 30, 2017 8:10 AM  

If there are too many words in the name of a "church organization" it's usually a front for SJW bullshit. We can expect much more of this MSM hunt for "church leaders" in fringe lying SJW groups to denounce Christians for them.

If your church belongs to one of these faggot assed organizations, get them out.

Blogger wreckage January 30, 2017 8:11 AM  

"We're so Christian we're against helping Christians. Or Yazidi, or Druze, Or Zoroastrians or Jews, but MOSTLY Christians."

Pieces. Of. Shit.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch January 30, 2017 8:13 AM  

Wow. More fruits of Vatican II. FrancisChurch, full throttle.

I (and others) have a feeling that God is going to do something rather special soon.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing January 30, 2017 8:19 AM  

And they fell for the bait. The God-Emperor's mastery of leaving bait for his enemies to chomp down on is fantastic.

The man just has a whole line of hooks trailing behind him at all times for our enemies to take the bait on.

Blogger wreckage January 30, 2017 8:19 AM  

@5 It hope it invovles these bastards vomiting gallons of extreta and then choking to death on it.

Anonymous p-dawg January 30, 2017 8:20 AM  

It's like you're on a plane and the oxygen masks have deployed. You put yours on, then take care of your family, then you worry about strangers.

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 30, 2017 8:20 AM  

What does prioritising Christian refugees have to do with being against anyone?

I count a false dichotomy, a non sequitur, and a heresy, all in the one sentence.

SJWs are wrong as wrong gets. That's what marks them as the devil's.

Anonymous aaaaturkey January 30, 2017 8:20 AM  

Speaking of Warhammer 40K


Not even April Fools yet lol

Blogger Nate January 30, 2017 8:24 AM  

When you dig into these "christian" organizations you find they are actually not even remotely affiliated with the Church. Any church. Some claim ties here and there but it doesn't take much digging to find that its all lies and they are actually nothing but lobbyists working for political organizations.

Anonymous aaaaturkey January 30, 2017 8:24 AM  

Establishment Churches need to pay tax, lots of it, and they need to ban 25 year old ministers who have gone from uni to seminary to parish.....

Blogger Matt January 30, 2017 8:24 AM  

The HBO show, "The Young Pope", is meant to be scathing I guess, but the Pope behaves the way a Pope should (his alleged bisexuality and agnostic leanings notwithstanding). These lunatics are so far removed from reality.

Blogger Matt January 30, 2017 8:26 AM  

Cant wait to waych this Pope die

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 8:26 AM  

Bishop Joe S Vásquez, who chairs the migration committee of the US Conference Of Catholic Bishops

Ah, yes, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, one of the "Christian" social service agencies taking Caesar's 30 Piece of Silver to betray their neighbors, friends and countrymen.

There aren't enough trees in North America to decorate with the pieces of these Fifth Columnists.

I wish I could ask a simple question of those who choose to earn their living importing aliens: "Are you so certain you'll never be held to account for importing Jihadists, general welfare parasites and those who will attempt to turn this land into THEIR land? Will you duck responsibility for what is to come? Don't count on it."

Blogger SouthRon January 30, 2017 8:28 AM  

As Paul says in Romans and Philippians, "mark them".

The Greek word is skopio and refers to spy-craft and marking or painting a target at a distance. Probably why I love that graphic so much.

Anonymous Viidad January 30, 2017 8:31 AM  

Nate wrote:When you dig into these "christian" organizations you find they are actually not even remotely affiliated with the Church. Any church. Some claim ties here and there but it doesn't take much digging to find that its all lies and they are actually nothing but lobbyists working for political organizations.



Agreed. Many of the "para-church" organizations are BS from top to bottom. No accountability to the actual church. Self-perpetuating donation harvesting machines, as I once wrote to the head of a non-profit ministry when I resigned years back.

Blogger The Kurgan January 30, 2017 8:31 AM  

My strong sympathies with the Catholic Sede Privationists is precisely because they call Bergoglio what he is: an impostor. Regardless of the argued validity of the post of Pope, Bergoglio is most assuredly an anti-Christian. Personally I think he is quite likely to be the herald of the anti-Christ mentioned in revelation.

He needs burning at the stake.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 8:34 AM  

The constitution was supposed to prohibit the establishment of a State Church, but that was a dead letter by 1943 or so, when Progressivism jettisoned its belief in God in favor of belief in the Omnipotent State.

Ever since then, the Left/Progressive Cult has been a de facto State Religion, and all mainline Christian denominations prostrated themselves before it. They all take Caesar's coin in tax exemptions, and most also take their 30 pieces of silver directly by becoming a tax-paid arm of the State Welfarist Charity (yes, that's an oxymoron.)

You can't have it both ways, if you take a dime from Caesar, you're Caesar's bitch, Caesar's whore, Caesar's concubine. A penny or a billion dollars, once the whoring starts, the rest is just price negotiation.

In the West today, there's no boundary between the political system, the Catholic Church, all Protestant denominations and all charities. They are all one Big Tent. Such are conditions here, at the apogee of Political Organization of Society.

Blogger John rockwell January 30, 2017 8:35 AM  

As surely as they bow to their women. They bow to our enemies as well.

Blogger The Kurgan January 30, 2017 8:35 AM  

It should involve a skyriding guy on a white horse by my estimation.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch January 30, 2017 8:37 AM  

@7 wreckage: I hope it involves these bastards vomiting gallons of extreta and then choking to death on it."

I think it's more along the lines of: we're all gonna die.

@ 18 I don't know if I'm prepared to go that far, or even as far as Ann Barhardt. However, that being said, I am prepared to elevate discussion of the idea that Pope Benedict XVI was blackmailed out of power, and that Pope Francis is an anti-pope. I believe that is an idea that will be in mainstream discussions in a year or two--or sooner.

After all, if Pope Francis truly is the pope, then how is it that nothing at all seems to be halting the heresy that comes from him? Where's the Holy Spirit? Is it not possible that the Holy Spirit is absent, due to the fact that he is an impostor put in by the St. Gallen Mafia and other Freemasonic forces?

Blogger John rockwell January 30, 2017 8:38 AM  

When a state ceases to have a state church. Progressivism fills the void. Its impossible for a state to not have state religion.

As some neoreactionaries diagnose the problem as.

Anonymous northern refugee January 30, 2017 8:38 AM  

Can't help but notice that once it started to look like the Quebec shooters were muslim, story disappears. No longer trending on twitter.

Blogger Basil Makedon January 30, 2017 8:39 AM  

Forget it Jake, it's the First Universalist Church of Judeo-Chrislam.

Blogger The Chortling January 30, 2017 8:39 AM  

one thing I've noticed about the last 10 years of Liberal Tears is that much of it is fueled by "Love your Enemies". At the same time these are the very people who will shriek, howl, cry and cuss at anyone who would dare to identify *anyone* as their enemy. They don't even know who their enemy is.

If anything, God's given a good part of Christianity over to confusion.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch January 30, 2017 8:40 AM  

@19 It is an unnatural state of affairs for a nation to have no kind of a national religion. Therefore, what you shall get is the parasites--Leftists in our case--subverting and slithering their way into power to create their own kind of religion. Because they will fill the hole that the "neutral State" refuses to fill.

So enjoy it.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 8:40 AM  

Today's Universal Cult beliefs include:
1. We can create wealth out of thin air by borrowing.
2. Because of #1, resources are unlimited.
3. Earthly limits (natural laws) are thus repealed.
4. Each person is responsible for helping to eliminate want, hardship, meanness, or any bad feelz of any kind.
5. Those who do not believe the first 4 above are the embodiment of evil and must be converted or destroyed.
6. Since #5 (conversion) is uncertain, destruction is preferred.
7. Belief in this catechism is demonstrated by winning a contest for the loudest, shrillest recitation of the sacraments of the cult.

Truly, There Will Be War.

Blogger SouthRon January 30, 2017 8:44 AM  

Viidad - Para-church and Judeo-Christ they go together like lesbians and Doritos.

I worked for one of the "good ones" years ago. They canned me for unspecified reasons and then lied to the people I worked with making up the story that I'd knocked up my girlfriend.

I marked them too.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 30, 2017 8:50 AM  

How stupid are these people? Yes, flood your country with Muslims and see how much they care about your Judeo-Christ while they are sawing off your head.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 30, 2017 8:54 AM  

I am starting to think the breakup of the united states is going to be accelerated by DJT. The left thought they had one and can not handle not getting their way on any one policy issue. When the cries from their side are raised for secession most of the right is saying "go-ahead and leave".

I think that may be the best solution. They are going to end up flooding their "country" with Muslims who will seize power, but at least they will have cleared out all the bleeding hearts. It will be much easier to mobilize our side against a hostile Muslim nation next door to us.

Blogger wreckage January 30, 2017 8:54 AM  

@30 That's what they want. To be subjugated and destroyed is their highest aspiration.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 30, 2017 8:54 AM  

"As we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith." (Galatians 6:10)

These people don't even read the New Testament and they are supposed to be church leaders. The Christian priority is our fellow believers.

Blogger Martin January 30, 2017 8:57 AM  

For me who is not christian this is very interesting to read.
Are the Mormons as cucky? I seem to recall that they fought wars in order to forge their church?

Anonymous JAG January 30, 2017 8:57 AM  

Going forward, the Catholic Church needs to codify rules to impeach bad Popes like the current shit head before he helps ignite WW3.

Blogger Cash January 30, 2017 8:58 AM  

Act like a Christian? This from the people who think whole countries are Catholic because some explorer said so 500 years ago.

Isn't the Catholics here that say all those countries don't need missionaries?

I'm sure our Russle Moore will or has already said something stupid.

Anonymous JAG January 30, 2017 8:59 AM  

I would also like to suggest that all these suicidal idiots that love the Muslims so much should move to any Islamic country of their choice. If you want to be suicidal I won't stand in your way. Try to get me killed due to your suicidal stupidity and we got big problems.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler January 30, 2017 9:04 AM  

"Are the Mormons that cucky?" is the question.

YES! They are multiculturalists as well as the Seventh Day Adventists.

All the Popes since Pope Pius the XII have been heretics; they have all adopted Babelism. Pope Pius in one encyclical furthered the Judeo-Masonic idea of unity of the human race. Vatican II documents do the same. "Saint" Pope JohnPaul II was a globalist as well. He is not a saint.

Liberalism is a form of Gnosticism. Gnosticism, the hatred of particularity, history and nature, especially of nature, is a very ancient Christian heresy. The modern Church, both Catholic and Protestant are heavily infected with Gnosticism and Babelism is a sign of that. The whole of the Christian Church is heretical now.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 30, 2017 9:06 AM  

VD
but Francine isn't even disguising the fact that he is playing works police here.



i'll start taking Francine's "works" seriously once he starts devoting himself to expunging practicing faggots from the ranks of the priesthood. he's got plenty of them to choose from.

a righteous pope would start by going to Mexico and holding a press conference. in which he appeared before the cameras in sackcloth and ashes, apologized to the nation of Mexico for the crimes and abominations of Marcial Maciel ( marrying women, fathering children, raping the children he fathered, in addition to being a raging homosexualist ) and announced the abolition of the Legion of Christ, with most members of the LoC being defrocked and/or expelled from the Church for collusion with and enablement of Maciel in his crimes.

of course, Francine is merely following in the footsteps of Benedict and John Paul 2 in refusing to take minimal ( much less righteous ) actions against the LoC.

because there is no righteousness in the Papacy.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2017 9:06 AM  

"The Morality of Everyday Life" by Thomas Fleming was interesting, a devout Catholic goes back to the ancient traditions of pre-Christian Greece to answer the crazies like Pope Francine.

Is the rumor true that the pope wants to transition to become the first woman pope?

Blogger Cash January 30, 2017 9:06 AM  

@35

Catholics seem to like him

The Alt-Righties who converted because they fell for same historical narrative don't like him.

Anonymous JAG January 30, 2017 9:08 AM  

Cash wrote:@35

Catholics seem to like him

The Alt-Righties who converted because they fell for same historical narrative don't like him.


Ask Malta their opinion of this "Pope".

Blogger Paul, Dammit! January 30, 2017 9:12 AM  

The mask slipped off Antipope Red Francis Perrone I as soon as he admitted to his affinity for Liberation theology. Refusing to submit to questioning for his heretical encyclical 'Amoris Laetitia' was a slap in the Church's face, which I suspect was a red line he knowingly crossed.
Downstream effects remain to be seen.

Blogger Johnny January 30, 2017 9:12 AM  

People in general are not very thoughtful and when it comes to padding notions of vanity they become even less thoughtful. It is virtue signaling at somebody else's expense without an idea in there head with regard to outcomes.

Blogger Cash January 30, 2017 9:12 AM  

@42 I'm sure there are a lot of Catholics that don't like him and I understand that the official position is always more liberal than what the group holds to.

In the Southern Baptist we get these mushy, ooey gooey statements.... It's the freaking Southern Baptist! You couldn't find a group that supported Trump more.

Yet look at who are "leaders" are.

That's the problem with these group non-profit things; the beta-cucks are the ones interested in running the things.

OpenID boardroomal January 30, 2017 9:12 AM  

In the Catholic church it will have to be the laity that raises up. I had been memeing, fighting & trolling Catholics all weekend including the USCCB, various "Celebrity Priests" & some U.S Cardinals for the statements you pointed too Vox.

There is no backbone with orthodox clergy in the Catholic faith. The Christian church in the west has been totally cucked. We can't clean up the west without the churches....Francine just nuked the 600 year old? Order of Hospitilars (Order of Malta) even though they are a sovereign nation because some orthodox Catholics & cardinal burke were trying to enforce orthodoxy.

They did not put up much of a fight despite being "Knights".

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 9:13 AM  

No, Pope Frank isn't a Christian, unless you stick with the Churchian definition of "Someone who likes Jesus and tries to be nice to people." He's certainly not Catholic. He likes nothing better than attacking Catholics and tearing down the Church. He has all the theological sophistication of a 14-year-old who doesn't want to get up early on Sunday mornings anymore.

Fortunately, he's not very bright -- maybe not even a midwit -- so he's not very good at hiding it. He's also the first Vatican occupant to be fully formed by Vatican II. So while his Vatican II predecessors had some knowledge of and respect for Tradition and wanted to ease Catholics from Catholicism to the new religion, Frank just wants to throw everything prior to 1967 on a bonfire and dance around it while it burns (perhaps in an inter-faith ceremony with some witches, if he can find some).

He's really a nasty piece of work. If you don't follow him closely, you probably only see the smilin' Frankie who just wants everyone to get along and take care of the poor. You probably don't see the way he treats Catholics who care about their faith. He downplays the power of the papacy -- he wouldn't even wear the crown when elected -- and wants to turn it into a figurehead and put the power in a system of quasi-democratic synods (committees). But when anyone crosses him or even questions his program, he slaps them down as imperiously as any monarch.

Take Obama, replace the "my black daddy left me" chip on his shoulder with 1960s hippie nonsense, subtract 10-20 IQ points, add even more narcissism and touchiness, layer on a vague understanding of Liberation Theology, and you have Pope Frank. He's a gift from God, really.

Blogger Dave January 30, 2017 9:14 AM  

The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats is Jesus' _direct_ instruction on this matter.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 9:18 AM  

@28 dc.sunsets

8. All religions are equally valid. Especially Islam. After all, those who think Islam is the malignant tumor of religions are bigoted poopyheads.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 9:21 AM  

Catholics seem to like him

The Alt-Righties who converted because they fell for same historical narrative don't like him.


@41 Cash
Most "Catholics" are only called that because they come from Catholic families. They usually don't believe in their own religion at all. Over half think gay marriage is just wonderful, for pete's sake.

Catholicism is a special case because its hierarchy is under the complete and apparently irrevocable control of its enemies.

Anonymous Faceless January 30, 2017 9:26 AM  

Why did the Western church sanction the Crusades instead of inviting in the Saracen to Europe?

Why did the pope crown Charlemagne emperor for stopping the Muslim invasion?

Why did the Byzantine patriarch not respond to the Eastern Emperor that it was his obligation to admit the Seljuk and Ottoman Turks?

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 9:26 AM  

'We believe in assisting all, regardless of their religious beliefs,' Bishop Joe S Vásquez

The really stupid thing about this is that the Catholic Church is universal -- that's what "catholic" means. Thanks to centuries of martyrs and missionaries, it has a truly global reach. So the Catholic Church can save souls in their home nations, and has no excuse for trying to import people to where it's more comfortable to preach to them.

Jesus said to take the gospel to all peoples, not to bring all peoples to your air-conditioned cathedral so you can tell them the gospel.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir January 30, 2017 9:33 AM  

There is nothing Christian about the Vatican II church. It's not Catholic--it's not Christian. Trouble is, most folks are ignorant of what the true Catholic Church taught prior to the usurpation of the Church's hierarchy by Marxists prior to the Second Vatican Council in 1962. The true Catholic Church taught that a violation of a nation's sovereignty was egregiously sinful and should be repelled by whatever means necessary. Compare that position with the one being advocated by the wussies at the helm in Rome right now--diametrically opposed!

Anonymous John VI January 30, 2017 9:34 AM  

Yeah. Cause these church leaders rake in hundreds of millions of dollars for doing thier "good works" with refugees. No chance of bias there. Just good Christian boys doing good Christian things from their good Christian hearts.

Anonymous Dan January 30, 2017 9:34 AM  

Nowadays with the exception of some branches of orthodox christianity, I see all churches as being the enemy. These motherfuckers have been infiltrated, all of them. And I believe the same happened with the muslim mosques.

Blogger Student in Blue January 30, 2017 9:35 AM  

@51. Faceless

That was old times and backwards thinking back then, duh. Clearly the modern times are far more enlightened and correct, because it's newer. And, uh, because it's newer.

We don't need that old and busted teaching of our ancestors! Don't trust any source over 30! That, uh, apparently includes the Bible. But not the Pope!

/s

Anonymous kh January 30, 2017 9:38 AM  

Excellent post. In addition to that, the church isn't even supposed to be burdened with caring for those of their own number who can care for themselves. I Tim 5:16

Don't let the SJW's tell you what Jesus came to do. If Jesus came to rid the world of poverty and all known diseases... He failed miserably. Instead, He said that "you have the poor with you always". And the hospitals are still filled with sick people.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 30, 2017 9:42 AM  

As a Catholic convert, I pray for God to deliver us from this pope and from the infiltrators of the church.

Blogger Student in Blue January 30, 2017 9:42 AM  

@15. dc.sunsets
Ah, yes, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, one of the "Christian" social service agencies taking Caesar's 30 Piece of Silver to betray their neighbors, friends and countrymen.

As an aside, I'm pretty sure it was the Sanhedrin who gave Judas his thirty pieces of silver, not Caesar. And they were still effectively the "government" in the area, so your reference would still be valid.

Anonymous Jack January 30, 2017 9:52 AM  

Sede vacante

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 10:01 AM  

Going forward, the Catholic Church needs to codify rules to impeach bad Popes like the current shit head before he helps ignite WW3.

It's simpler than that: there are two requirements for being pope: 1) male, 2) Catholic. Since he's clearly not Catholic, the cardinals can say, "Oops, we elected a non-Catholic, so we don't have a pope after all, so it's time to elect one." Then they just have to get the keys to the popemobile back from Frank.

There's no procedure for that, because we've never been here before. They'd have to improvise.

That's not going to happen, though, because the entire hierarchy is on board with Vatican II; they just want Frank to slow the revolution back down to a JPII/Benedict pace and stop spooking the flock. They were simmering the frog, and he's turned it up to high boil.

Anonymous aristocrat January 30, 2017 10:12 AM  

"All the Popes since Pope Pius the XII have been heretics; they have all adopted Babelism."

Wheeler rises...

Anonymous CC January 30, 2017 10:22 AM  

I have to say this pope is the best head of an NGO there's ever been. Nobody else has gotten their point across so clearly and consistently.

Anonymous instasetting January 30, 2017 10:24 AM  

One of the arguments that persuaded me into accepting Assad was that he protected Christians. Trump's prioritization is correct, and the quoted spokesman for the CWS is clearly incorrect, and messed up.

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 30, 2017 10:31 AM  

Well, Wheeler's done me a favour; he's shown me what it looks like when people from outside a denomination pretend to know what's inside it.

I apologise to my Catholic brethren. I'll keep my mouth shut in future and let you speak for yourselves.

Blogger Durandel January 30, 2017 10:44 AM  

@52 Cail: The really stupid thing about this is that the Catholic Church is universal -- that's what "catholic" means. Thanks to centuries of martyrs and missionaries, it has a truly global reach. So the Catholic Church can save souls in their home nations, and has no excuse for trying to import people to where it's more comfortable to preach to them.

Jesus said to take the gospel to all peoples, not to bring all peoples to your air-conditioned cathedral so you can tell them the gospel."

A thousand times this. To annoy the liberals in my congregation, I say something similar. That the pro-immigrantionistas are nothing more than lazy cowards, too afraid and too lazy to go to Muslim lands and proclaim the Gospel.

I want military orders and the inquisition back. And another crusade. We still owe the Eastern lung the loss of Constantinople. I say we help them take Eastern Thrace back, along with Anatolia.

Too bad Cardinals like George and Sarah are not willing to fight hard, like Trump. A good chunk of the hierarchy and the sheep need to be excommunicated in order to clean up the mess of Vatican II.

Blogger Out of Nod January 30, 2017 10:45 AM  

This has been a rough weekend on this front; even the sermon I heard yesterday was rhetoric aimed at helping the refugees and the pastor of the church all but told us it was our duty as Christians to do so.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 30, 2017 10:49 AM  

I'm in charge of writing our prayers of the faithful every Sunday. Our priest, from South America, felt the need to insert a prayer for all immigrants, legal or illegal. My wife looked at me and rolled her eyes and we both kept our mouths shut at the expected reply of "Lord hear our prayer."

Our Venezuelan parishioners also find this obnoxious, Same with the Polish, and the Greek. Hmmm, what seems consistent among those three I wonder?

Blogger Matthew Davis January 30, 2017 10:55 AM  

I am seeing Leviticus 19:33-34 being used by churchians and especially non-Christians as an argument that Christians who support the ban are hypocrites.

The response I am using is to ask them if they really want Christians to stop being hypocrites and follow old testament law and and showing them this verse also from Leviticus.

Leviticus 25:44-45

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

Anonymous rob January 30, 2017 10:59 AM  

2017 marks the beginning of the final countdown to the return of Christ as the scriptures suggest.

If Jesus continues the pattern he started in the cross event he will return Sept 30 2027 (Jerusalem time - it would be 10:36 pm Sept 29 EST).

Between now and then things are going to get really ugly - as Jesus suggests:

"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Or as Daniel suggests:

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

Michael stood up in 1952 for those who are unaware.

For those that might have been told or believe that "no man knows the day or the hour," fail to understand that the word "know" is in the present indicative form, which means it was true when Jesus said it but was not true in an absolute all future sense, but if and when new information (knowing) came to be understood (from signs given) then the statement is no longer true - Jesus gave us the signs to look for - the first occurred in 1948 - thus even by Matt 24 Jesus has to return before 2029 (a generation is 70 years or 80 to the strong- PS 90:10)

Daniel 12 specifically gives us the year Christ will return as Daniel 9 gave us specific information regarding the beginning of Christ's coming and specifically the beginning of his earthly ministry 490 years after Artixerxes 1 had reigned for 20 years - all very well documented in history.

I suggest we prepare as Jesus suggests - be prepared to provide meat in due season for our household - "meat" has the meaning of things required to survive which are stock piled - "in due season" simply means when the time presents itself - the time is on our doorstep - there is little time left to prepare.

Just to be clear - I am not predicting anything - I am passing on what the scriptures suggest - I don't particularly care exactly when Jesus will return - that will take care of itself - I am concerned about what leads up to his return and being prepared for it. Without knowing at least the approximate time of his return we would not know when to prepare.

Tragically Jesus also suggests that few will prepare - as those in the days of Noah. They had a 120 year warning a flood was coming thus they needed to prepare for it - they watched Noah build a boat for 100 years. More than eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage was required for human flourishing - they needed to build boats - apparently few did - Noah was simply given the extra responsibility to build a boat for the animals God wanted preserved. You can argue over whether the flood was regional, worldwide, or happened at all, but in the meantime you will get "ginoskoed" as those in the days of Noah if you do not prepare for what is coming. Ginosko means to come to know something by experience and in the case of the flood it cost them their lives - Jesus suggests it will happen again leading up to his return if we do not prepare.

A word to the wise is sufficient
Blessings
Rob
The Feast

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 30, 2017 11:01 AM  

@52 Cail Corishev
"Jesus said to take the gospel to all peoples, not to bring all peoples to your air-conditioned cathedral so you can tell them the gospel."

And in doing so, deputizing your neighbors as missionaries and martyrs against their will... without telling them that's what you're doing... lying to them about what you're doing so they don't dare express any misgivings... attacking anybody who dares to suggest anything bad might happen... slandering anybody who notices that the rape rate went up...

Satanic from start to finish.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 11:05 AM  

Well, Wheeler's done me a favour; he's shown me what it looks like when people from outside a denomination pretend to know what's inside it.

I apologise to my Catholic brethren. I'll keep my mouth shut in future and let you speak for yourselves.


@65 Resident Moron
Well... he does have a point. Vatican II and the wholesale reforms of every single one of the sacraments was essentially the Catholic Church hierarchy taking a gun and pointing it at its head, and pulling the trigger.

Is any other Catholic here willing to argue that Vatican II was good for Catholicism?

Yet SJWs always double down... including those running our Church's offices. More Vatican II!

Anonymous FP January 30, 2017 11:06 AM  

Francis has killed the classic line... is the Pope Catholic? No, he's an Argentine communist.

Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.

Blogger Matthew Davis January 30, 2017 11:15 AM  

@70

Why do you seem to think that preparing for it to happen again means taking the defensive? Would you rather stand by and watch your culture and your loved ones be destroyed while they huddle around canned preserves in a basement or take the fight to the enemy?

Anonymous t.c. January 30, 2017 11:16 AM  

So out of legitimate curiosity, and not trolling, I have a question:

Say that I agree with you that these refugees pose a serious risk to safety, that we need to not allow them, and we need to protect ourselves and our safety, securing ourselves as a Christian nation -

How then are we to safely and responsibly follow Christ's orders of making believers of men and trying to win the souls of people elsewhere, believing that God loves all His children?

Again, not trolling, or even disagreeing with you. I'm curious as to how you think the best, safest, and sanest way to try and reach these foreign non-believers would be? You may have answered that question already but I am not here that often. Thanks.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 30, 2017 11:19 AM  

@73, FP - very true, he really has ruined that phrase. Now I have to use the "does not a bear in the woods" or "is not the sky blue" variants.

Perhaps we should make a new variant. "Does not the God-Emperor drink his enemies tears?" "Does not the God-Emperor drain the swamp?"

Blogger Timmy3 January 30, 2017 11:19 AM  

Christians are helping Christians in America by affirming their beliefs, not allowing the Muslims to enter. It's bad enough to say Christians are not Christians. Directing Christian firepower towards fellow Christians suggests one is not Christian and it is always the accuser.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 30, 2017 11:20 AM  

@75 - By doing so in their countries or in countries that are similar in culture to theirs where they should be relocated if they are true refugees.

We can help 12 of them there for every 1 here. Do you hate the other 11 that much?

Blogger Timmy3 January 30, 2017 11:21 AM  

"How then are we to safely and responsibly follow Christ's orders of making believers of men and trying to win the souls of people elsewhere, believing that God loves all His children?"

Maybe its time to stop waging war in the Middle East and let their people return to live in peace or create the society they so desperately want.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 30, 2017 11:28 AM  

@75 Same way we've always done it. Go over there, risking your own life to preach the Gospel.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 30, 2017 11:38 AM  

Wheeler:
All the Popes since Pope Pius the XII have been heretics; they have all adopted Babelism. Pope Pius in one encyclical furthered the Judeo-Masonic idea of unity of the human race. Vatican II documents do the same. "Saint" Pope JohnPaul II was a globalist as well. He is not a saint.

Didn't know Pius XII imbibed the globalist Kool-Aid that much. Barnhardt has most of it right, but does not understand that Vatican II was not Heresy, but an Apostasy. Any pope who failed to oppose and repudiate it is illegitimate. The Cathedra of Rome has been empty since John XXIII (ironically, given the history of that title). That's how we witnessed JP II kissing the Koran - he might as well have kissed Crowley's manual of Satanism. High-Fellatin' Franny is merely the dancing monkey of (((Soros))). Catholicism has been circling the drain since Vatican II was imposed. Looks like the hierarchy is basically owned by the enemy.

Blogger Rob January 30, 2017 11:43 AM  

As a Catholic Convert, I'm starting to believe that the SSPX has been 100% right all along.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 11:45 AM  

How then are we to safely and responsibly follow Christ's orders of making believers of men and trying to win the souls of people elsewhere

Jesus told us how: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Matthew 28:19)

That's how Christians have done it for two millennia. If Muslims chop your head off, or Africans boil you for dinner, well, your reward will be waiting for you in Heaven.

No, that may not be "safe," but Jesus didn't promise it would be. If it's too risky, share the gospel with your family and neighbors instead, and hope that's enough. Don't try to do an end-run around the risk of following Christ by importing all nations into a safe space.

Blogger Justin C January 30, 2017 11:54 AM  

According to Father Z's Blog, it is perfectly lawful to pray for the end of a pontificate, leaving it to God to decide how that end is accomplished.(I'm paraphrasing.) Pope Francis isn't the worst Pope we've ever had. Sometimes we get the leadership we deserve.

Pope Bennedict XVI before he was poor said the Church of the future will be smaller and more pure. Pope Francis and his ilk may be God's agents to accomplish that weather they are aware of it or not. Their shoddy catechisms have surely helped to drive the people out of the Church for 60 plus years. But remember the Arian heresy went on for a while two and almost 3/4 of the clergy got caught up with it.

Don't loose hope. As Vox has said, this whole thing started with 11 scared men. Don't loose hope, double down, pray for and ignore the heterodox clergy. Keep yourself and yours edifyied by scripture and the sacraments.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 12:16 PM  

Fr. Z. is one of those trads who tries to have it both ways, paying homage to Francis while ignoring everything he says. That's not how it works. He'd probably change his tune if Francis ever decided to shut down his use of the Latin Mass, the way he has some other groups.

We've had popes who were bad men, fornicators and the like, but they didn't teach outright heresy and attack Church doctrine in numerous ways. That's new since Vatican II, and Francis is blatant about it.

No, that's not a reason to lose hope. We Catholics believe that the gates of Hell shall not prevail against the Church. Being without a pope for a longer time than usual doesn't mean the gates of Hell have prevailed. For the Church to lose the Faith and replace it with Churchian nonsense and the worldly worship of Man would.

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Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 30, 2017 12:23 PM  

No, Pope Frank isn't a Christian, unless you stick with the Churchian definition of "Someone who likes Judeo-Christ and tries to be nice to people."

Fixed that for ya.

Blogger Durandel Almiras January 30, 2017 12:27 PM  

@85 I agree with Cail. Fr. Z plays the moderate. If you have lurked at this blog long enough, you know the problem of moderates. He spills more electronic ink defending Francine and massaging his statements than he does pointing out how this man is hurting the Church. He shoots the good guys rather than fire his words at the proper enemy.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 30, 2017 12:27 PM  

In the last week, how many of us have been told by a pastor, or an elder, or a bishop, or a priest "Jesus was a refugee when his family went down to Egypt"? It's an obvious talking point, just wondering how far it has spread.

It's not dialectic at all. Not very good rhetoric, either, but apparently good enough to convince the midwits. So we need a rhetorical counter.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 12:36 PM  

So we need a rhetorical counter.

"Okay, new refugee program: all Sons of God born of a virgin and their immediate families get in; everyone else stays out."

Comparing the Holy Family to people who are working the political system so they can live somewhere nicer approaches blasphemy.

Blogger Stilicho January 30, 2017 12:50 PM  

Jose Vasquez doesn't care if Christians die because moslems were given preference; he assumes God will know his own and thinks he might convert a mohammedan with welfare. Of course, this would conflict with Jose's prime directive of flooding the U.S. with third world Catholics if the Christians in question followed the Church of Rome. Since they appear to be mostly Orthodox, oh well, some eggs will get broken to make his neo-Babelian omelet. In the meantime, it looks like the children's bread will be given to the dogs courtesy of Francine & co. I wonder what the proscribed punishment is for an openly heretical Roman priest?

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 30, 2017 12:57 PM  

@89 "And then they left. Do you want these 'refugees' to leave after a short while? No? Then even making the comparison is you LYING to me. How dare you pervert the Gospel into cheap political propaganda!"

Blogger John Wright January 30, 2017 12:58 PM  

Are we all ready to admit that, after all, the Inquisition, and the habit of burning heretics at the stake, was perhaps not so bad after all?

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 30, 2017 1:05 PM  

@93
Amen.

Blogger S1AL January 30, 2017 1:13 PM  

"Are we all ready to admit that, after all, the Inquisition, and the habit of burning heretics at the stake, was perhaps not so bad after all?"

Well that depends on who gets to define heresy, now doesn't it? Of course, the more important question is: do you like Hussites? Cause this is how you get more Hussites.

Alternatively, a quick study of history would demonstrate that exile is consistently more effective than execution.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 1:15 PM  

he assumes God will know his own and thinks he might convert a mohammedan with welfare.

It's unlikely that he would try to convert him at all. More likely he would, in agreement with Pope Frank and Mother Teresa, encourage the Muslim to be a better Muslim.

Anonymous Camilla Cameo January 30, 2017 1:26 PM  

@93

Is Mr. Wright now seeing it's not mistranslation or out-of-context reporting; we do in fact have a heretic (anti)pope? I hope so.

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner January 30, 2017 1:35 PM  

Moslem refusegees will never be grateful for the charity as they consider welfare to be a form of jizya, the tax non moslems must pay to support moslems

in agreement with Pope Frank and Mother Teresa, encourage the Muslim to be a better Muslim.

I didn't know they wanted moslems dead.

OpenID frankluke January 30, 2017 1:37 PM  

@93

A fellow pastor tried to tell me my apologetics work was unfruitful because I was labeling a bad doctrine with clear implications in soteriology as heresy and pointing out the bad fruits of same. He cited Christ's parable of the wheat and tares; saying we are obviously to let the heretics inside the church because removing them will cause damage. "Jesus will take care of that in the Final Judgment."

I pointed out where 1) Jesus instructs the church to take care of itself, even excommunicating trouble makers. 2) Paul's instructions on ceasing to have contact with the unfaithful.

He had no reply but to repeat himself. "Jesus will take care of that in the Final Judgment."

I walked away, shaking my head. So, obviously, in his mind, the Holy Spirit erred when inspiring Paul to write those words on church discipline and Jesus messed up worse (thus sinning by giving bad instructions)? Or did Matthew mishear the Spirit? I should have asked him what then of those led astray by the heresy and therefore never taste salvation?

That was at least 4 years ago, long before we met. I began thinking that day that the Inquisition had merit.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 30, 2017 1:45 PM  

@99
And these nonsensical lies are always to avoid conflict.
Sure, we were told to excommunicate troublemakers and unrepentant sinners... but wait! This parable about Final Judgment didn't specifically mention anybody pulling up weeds beforehand, so we can just sweep it under the rug. Phew!

Anonymous Sharrukin January 30, 2017 1:58 PM  

89. A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

"Jesus was a refugee when his family went down to Egypt"?

So we need a rhetorical counter.


So send them to Egypt!

That is pretty much Trump's plan in any case.

Anonymous t.c. January 30, 2017 2:11 PM  

Thanks everyone for your replies. It was the point of view I was looking for.

@95 - I agree with another post - who gets to define heresy? If I, as an atheist, wishes to live in civilized society without trying to de-civilize said society, do I get a pass?

Blogger jonw January 30, 2017 2:14 PM  

Women shouldn't be allowed leadership positions in the church

Blogger S1AL January 30, 2017 2:16 PM  

Also, I just freaking love all of the "torture is always wrong" folks advocating for *burning purple at the stake*. Just love it. And, also, "I want to burn you and your entire family alive" is really, really, really bad rhetoric.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 2:58 PM  

As a Catholic Convert, I'm starting to believe that the SSPX has been 100% right all along.

@82 Rob
Too bad the SSPX proper is run by the Gamma cuck Bp. Fellay. Although fortunately a large number (including Bp. Williamson) have gone independent.

Blogger Elder Son January 30, 2017 3:15 PM  

Jesus didn't say bring all nations to Jerusalem/Israel that you may preach the gospel to them, now did he?

Likewise, while you may preach the gospel in your own nation, Jesus never said, "Yo dudes! Open your borders! Call all nations into your own! Flood your country with pagans! Displace yourselves with foreigners! That you may preach the gospel to them and save a few!

Blogger Elder Son January 30, 2017 3:26 PM  

In the last week, how many of us have been told by a pastor, or an elder, or a bishop, or a priest "Jesus was a refugee when his family went down to Egypt"?

And you can bet that Joseph and Mary knew they were guests in Egypt, and didn't flip the finger at Pharaoh.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler January 30, 2017 3:47 PM  

The SSPX has also adopted Political Correctness. Anyone who uses the term, "That's racist" as a billy-club to shame/silence people is a Cultural Marxist. Anyone who says that all humans are one--are Cultural Marxists/Gnostics. All things are construed of a universal and a Particular. Particularity has meaning and significance. Thomas Jefferson's saying "All men are created equal" is a Masonic statement--is a Gnostic statement. Race matters, there are differences of race. If any Christian adopts the opposite or Thomas Jefferson's statement is a Gnostic.

All these protests, the Marxist/SJW Christian movement, are all Gnostic.

The Gates of Hell are pretty much throughout the Church. There are only maybe 1% of Traditional Orthodox Catholic Christians left. The rest is Gnostic. American Protestantism is thoroughly Gnostic. The hatred of tradition or of the past is a Gnostic.

Blogger VD January 30, 2017 4:16 PM  

Are we all ready to admit that, after all, the Inquisition, and the habit of burning heretics at the stake, was perhaps not so bad after all?

Perhaps you have forgotten that I wrote one of the definitive defenses of the Inquisition back in 2008, and proved that it was less lethal on an annual basis than children's bicycles in the USA.

You'd do better to take that one up with the Jews, John. They're the chief anti-Inquisitionists these days.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 30, 2017 4:44 PM  

Our enemies are so stupid that they are now biting the hooks WITHOUT Trump or anyone ekse having bothered to bait said hooks.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch January 30, 2017 6:11 PM  

Many prophecies for the last 2,000 years have foretold of this corruption that would happen within Christ's Church.

Blogger Basil Makedon January 30, 2017 6:20 PM  

@89 I'm sure someone could do better, but when an individual tried to use that on me, my response was: "No, Jesus was not a refugee, he never set foot outside the Roman Empire. That's like saying that I am a refugee from Virginia."

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 30, 2017 8:20 PM  

@105

Bp. Fellay has had his moments, but given the fact that he's insisted that should the Vatican regularize the SSPX that the Vatican leaves them alone, I think he's been slowly growing a pair. It remains to be seen how it will pan out, but that gives some of us hope. Getting that prelature recognized is game over for the Modernists, and given that Bergolio has had a bit of a positive relationship with the SSPX in Argentina, it's going to be hilarious to watch him torpedo all of the Modernists because he had a soft spot for those that have been working to keep the traditional Church afloat this whole time.

Not that I don't appreciate Bp. Williamson and his efforts, but he's been more inept when it comes on particular hills he's decided to die on (i.e. challenging the legislation against criticizing the Holocaust in Europe).

Blogger Vic Veritas January 30, 2017 8:55 PM  

I really do wonder if some or many of the prot/evangelical "leaders" are getting dough from ((((un-named sources))) They m ust be. They can't be naturally suicidal, can they? Irrespective of what Obango claimed, America is still a Christian country. Only immigrants who also are, should be welcomed. Send money there to help, if necessary, but don't bring them here. They want to kill us. They have wanted to for centuries. Now they're being invited inside what should be a gate? Insane.

Anonymous AmericanGraffiti January 30, 2017 10:32 PM  

Catholic charities receives millions in refugee resettlement money

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/29/unholy-alliance-christian-charities-profit-1-billion-fed-program-resettle-refugees-40-percent-muslim/

Anonymous AmericanGraffiti January 30, 2017 10:36 PM  

From the article linked above:

As Refugee Resettlement Watch reported recently after examining FY 2012 annual reports of these five Christian non-profits, they would all be hurt severely if the $1 billion refugee resettlement gravy train ended for them:

98 percent ($69 million) of Catholic Charities $70 million refugee resettlement budget comes from the federal government.

60 percent ($45 million) of Church World Service’s entire $76 million budget comes from the federal government.

97 percent ($42 million) of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service’s $43 million budget comes from the federal government.

68 percent ($38 million) of World Relief’s $56 million budget comes from the federal government.

Blogger JP January 31, 2017 1:41 AM  

Lol, I tried to comment but it was closed. Here's what I wanted to write:

"Those killed for their fur typically first endure a bleak life inside a tiny, filthy wire cage before being electrocuted, drowned, or even skinned alive. Or they may be in the wild, minding their own business, when they get caught in a horrific bone-crushing steel-jaw trap – often languishing for days before eventually dying from starvation, dehydration, or blood loss."

Bad ass! They should write that into the lore of the Flayed Ones, who wear the skin of their opponents to gain their powers. Maybe have an army of the Flayed Beasts...

Blogger Student in Blue January 31, 2017 10:41 AM  

@89
It's not dialectic at all. Not very good rhetoric, either, but apparently good enough to convince the midwits. So we need a rhetorical counter.

"And Jesus eventually went back of his own will. None of these so-called 'refugees' ever return if they can help it. They aren't refugees, they're able-bodied invaders, the vast majority 20-ish and male."

Still too dialectic heavy though, probably.

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