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Tuesday, January 24, 2017

Did I just hear... WALL?

Remember this. From this morning?
Undocumented Civilizationalist January 23, 2017 6:58 PM
And yet, Trump has just caved on immigration. Both Priebus yesterday and Spicer today say ending that ending the DACA amnesty--which Trump can do via executive order-- isn't a priority. Priebus strongly hinted it won't be done at all. Unfucking-believable. 4 days in and Trump stabs us in the back.
Yeah, so, about that....
U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign several executive orders on Wednesday restricting immigration from Syria and six other Middle Eastern or African countries, according to several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

In addition to Syria, Trump's orders are expected to temporarily restrict access to the United States for most refugees. Another order will block visas from being issued to Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.

Trump's restrictions on refugees are likely to include a multi-month ban on admissions from all countries until the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security can increase the intensity of the vetting process.

The Republican president was expected to sign the orders at the Washington headquarters of the Department of Homeland Security, whose responsibilities include immigration and border security.
As I mentioned in the Darkstream tonight, the God-Emperor is off to a fast start and he is exceeding expectations. He is ALREADY better than anything I'd even thought to hope for out of any other Republican candidate.

These are not merely the initial indications of a man who will be a good President. These are initial indications of a man who is striving for greatness and may actually achieve it.

UPDATE: It just keeps getting better. We're now experiencing winning squared; the God-Emperor is giving the order to Build. The. Wall.
President Trump plans to sign executive orders Wednesday enabling construction of his proposed wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and targeting cities where local leaders refuse to hand over illegal immigrants for deportation, according to White House officials familiar with the decisions.

The actions, part of a multi-day focus on immigration, are among an array of sweeping and immediate changes to the nation’s immigration system under consideration by the new president. The moves represent Trump’s first effort to deliver on perhaps the signature issue that drove his presidential campaign: his belief that illegal immigration is out of control and threatening the country’s safety and security.

Trump’s immigration blitz this week is widely seen inside the White House as a victory for the self-described populist wing of his inner circle — which includes chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, attorney general nominee Jeff Sessions and top policy adviser Stephen Miller.
The best part is this: Any immigration measures announced by the president will set up a fierce battle in Trump’s first week between the White House and advocates for immigrants, who were reacting with alarm Tuesday as word spread that immigration was on the table. 

They shouldn't be reacting with alarm. They should be reacting with fear.

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174 Comments:

Blogger Unknown January 24, 2017 7:40 PM  

Heartiste tweeted this link about why punting on DACA (for the moment) is the right move strategically. If you don't have the discipline to fold a lousy hand, you'll get wiped out quickly.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/24/no-president-trump-does-not-need-to-take-immediate-action-on-daca-heres-why/

Blogger Lovekraft January 24, 2017 7:41 PM  

Whether our side prevails is not contingent upon Trump's specific actions. Rather it is in how he wins the narrative.

So spergers complaining that he's lost because of this issue isn't of concern.

Anonymous Desert Rat January 24, 2017 7:45 PM  

Check out this posting at Conservative Treehouse regarding DACA and why President Trump is wise to slow roll this.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/24/no-president-trump-does-not-need-to-take-immediate-action-on-daca-heres-why/

Anonymous XanthanGun January 24, 2017 7:50 PM  

Feels good man

Anonymous Steve January 24, 2017 7:51 PM  

Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now. Or - God forbid - that malevolent, squirming bag of wrinkles known as Hillary Clinton.

Doesn't seem right, does it?

It's as if Donald J. Trump's been leading the United States for at least a year. Last Friday just made it official.

Prediction: Mount Rushmore will one day bear the stern, yet avuncular likeness of Donald J. Trump, the Glorious Revolution president.

Blogger John Morris January 24, 2017 7:52 PM  

Every day delayed is another day every single force in the swamp continues to pressure Trump to compromise on DACA and allowing the illegals to stay. Yes it makes sense to get the cabinet confirmed before opening up what will likely be total war, but we should probably stay uneasy until the actual executive order comes down.

And notice that the article linked says absolutely nothing about DACA and not even rumors about any of the truly important immigration issues.

Anonymous digger January 24, 2017 7:53 PM  

He is wisely stretching out these executive orders and issuing them in related groups for maximum of affect.

Anonymous Realist January 24, 2017 7:53 PM  

President Trump signed an executive order on Monday barring federal funds from organizations that promote abortion around the world, including the International Planned Parenthood Federation, in what activists say is the president’s first major pro-life action while in office.

That's a start........

Blogger SteelPalm January 24, 2017 7:54 PM  

@2 What a stupid, pathetic, weak, groveling article.

Trump strikes when his enemies are overextended, exhausted, and in disarray. They shot their wad with the protests on January 20th and 21st and foolishly spent too much time whining about the size of Trump's crowd.

They're barely even catching up to his initial executive orders, let alone this. The people are simply going to tune them out at this point. Even garden-variety Democrat voters can't take this much "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" alarmist hysteria before tuning out or even being convinced of the opposite.

Now is the PERFECT time to pass this. Not later, when the leftists have regrouped, and the public is more willing to buy into Trump hysteria and demonization.

Then again, it's no surprise we're recommended more ineffective, losing tactics from the cuckservatives.

Blogger Ingot9455 January 24, 2017 7:54 PM  

Also, there's the consideration of the 4-4 divided Supreme Court case to get into. He might want his person on the court ready for the challenges to go up.

Blogger SteelPalm January 24, 2017 7:56 PM  

@9 You do realize it takes a while for a challenge to make its way up to the Supreme Court, don't you? It might not get challenged there for a couple of years. Plenty of time for Trump to get a candidate nominated and confirmed.

Anonymous Grime Knight January 24, 2017 7:56 PM  

I swear some of these doomsayers are just gamma male basic bitches that want everything to be solved in a microsecond. Any sort of proportionality, timing, tact, etc. is seen as being a cuck.

These are the people who sit behind their keyboard and have literally nothing to contribute to Western Civilization outside of telling everyone else that they're cucked. They are the secret prophet (off-shoot of the secret king) who can see the 4D chess pieces a mile a way...or so they claim.

Blogger D. January 24, 2017 7:56 PM  

maybe get all you people in place then do the difficult?

Blogger D. January 24, 2017 7:57 PM  

you = your

Anonymous Discard January 24, 2017 7:59 PM  

O.T. The Texas Ten Most Wanted list has switched from labeling all their Mexican criminals "White" to calling them "White Hispanic". Not good enough yet, but Trump is having an impact.

Blogger Timmy3 January 24, 2017 8:04 PM  

There's an article about NAFTA negotiations coming up. Mexico is threatening to leave the table if the wall and remunerations are on the agenda. Maybe DACA is indirectly part of the negotiations.

Blogger Ezekiel January 24, 2017 8:04 PM  

Eh, give 'em some slack. They've been losing for so long that they don't know what victory feels like, and the new sensation scares them to death. Almost like a socio-political form of learned helplessness; I know I work to overcome it myself.

Blogger Dave January 24, 2017 8:05 PM  

Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits

Winning.

Anonymous Blacksmith January 24, 2017 8:07 PM  

His goal is to end up the 5th head on Mt. Rushmore.

Anonymous Tipsy January 24, 2017 8:15 PM  

Dave wrote:Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits

Winning.


Here's a good place to start. My dad, who is in his 70s, apparently isn't the only one who uses his SSN. There are a few others, and my guess is that they all have Hispanic surnames. The IRS knows who they are and where they live. Maybe someone should investigate to see if the SSNs were obtained illegally, starting with the last person on the list. If so, exact a large fine.

Do this enough, and people will start deporting themselves.

Blogger Hunsdon January 24, 2017 8:20 PM  

I don't know man. After watching Trump basically rename the rickroll into the trumproll over the last eighteen months, now that he's in office and it's been, what, like four or five days already, counting the inauguration and the weekend, and he hasn't saved us yet? We were fooled! Is it too late to get one of those "I'm with Her" t-shirts? We'll have to call him Dolchstoss Drumpf for the way he's stabbed us in the back . . .

Blogger tz January 24, 2017 8:21 PM  

On DACA, suspending amnesty (which the states/courts might do instead of Trump) just creates another few thousand to deport (do we incarcerate them in the interim?) who other than being here aren't criminals. There are 2 million violent and other felons and other criminals.

Trust Trump's 4D chess here.

More important are the unvetted Muslim refugees already here. Send them back. Now. Put them in FEMA camps with halal food if there's a delay. A refugee has no right to anything.

Blogger CynicalMan January 24, 2017 8:22 PM  

Very few presidents achieve greatness without having led the country through a war. Perhaps a victory over the war on terror will be Trump's path to greatness. Let's hope that is the only war he will have to fight except the one he is now waging with the leftists and progressive in both politics and the media.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 24, 2017 8:22 PM  

Spicer refused to clearly state that the Spanish language website would be restored. A positive hint (although the fact he is still having press conferences is itself cause for concern)

Anonymous Hesiod January 24, 2017 8:23 PM  

Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now.

To Hell with that; imagine if Jeb was the president. The kids would be traumatized by his constant whipping out metallic turtles for them from him trouser pants.

Blogger Ezekiel January 24, 2017 8:24 PM  

CynicalMan wrote:Very few presidents achieve greatness without having led the country through a war. Perhaps a victory over the war on terror will be Trump's path to greatness. Let's hope that is the only war he will have to fight except the one he is now waging with the leftists and progressive in both politics and the media.
Hmm...

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/01/how-to-make-america-great-again-with.html

Blogger tz January 24, 2017 8:24 PM  

It also may be a ploy to get his cabinet approved. By freezing the EPA, and State Department, if the Senate balks, this mini government shut-down will last longer.

And please, McCuckold and Ryno, Shoehorn and Pillosos: shut the government down!

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 January 24, 2017 8:25 PM  

[i]Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now.[/i]

If Ted Cruz had been elected, and I'm saying this as a guy who wanted to vote for him, we wouldn't have gotten anything like this.

I've thrown in the towel - Cruz was not ready. Maybe in 2024 we can take another look at him.

Blogger Ezekiel January 24, 2017 8:25 PM  

Hesiod wrote:Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now.

To Hell with that; imagine if Jeb was the president. The kids would be traumatized by his constant whipping out metallic turtles for them from him trouser pants.

We'd still be reeling from the revelations of "Cuckgate" and photographic evidence of the president hiring men in Trump and Obama masks to pleasure his wife in front of him.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 24, 2017 8:26 PM  

@22 Wrong. Lincoln, Wilson, FDR and LBJ were our worst presidents and warmongers. And a third of the Mexican population within our borders qualify as a war. Foreign adventures would tank Trump's presidency.

Blogger tz January 24, 2017 8:27 PM  

Trump will tell the Generals to neutralize threats "over there", not to turn Afghanistan and what is left of Iraq and Libya into Sweden. It might take a bit to get 4GW (including new generals if needed).

So, what will Trump have left to do by May?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 24, 2017 8:28 PM  

Forget passing laws in Congress, it's all about the "temporary" Executive Orders now.

The insane Somali importation program started back in 1991, under GW Bush. It was temporary. Clinton extended it, then extended it again. 25 years later that temporary program is still haunting us. 0bama was flying more Somali's in last month. Probably more this month.

Under a temporary program that's 25 years old.

Well, fine. Just give us a temporary ban on refugees from jihadland. Then extend it temporarily into the temporary future. Then extend it again. And again. And again. Run the same policy game right back at the globalists, temporarily. Until it's permanent, or close enough.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 24, 2017 8:28 PM  

@24 Or imagine McMuffin. He makes Jeb look like a right winger. His Twitter has descended into neocon parody.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 24, 2017 8:31 PM  

@22
Very few presidents achieve greatness without having led the country through a war.

Teddy Roosevelt is on Mt. Rushmore, there were no wars during his term of office. It can be done.

Blogger tz January 24, 2017 8:32 PM  

Ted Cruz...
In an open letter to the Cruzbots, one of the points I made is I wanted to know if he would actually fight for the court, his policies, etc., or be another Jeb! excuse-maker.

I don't like everything Trump is doing, but am wildly ecstatic at his pace and keeping his promises.

I had to keep pointing out to the naysayers, "give him 100 days - in office" when they were griping about his cabinet in December.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 24, 2017 8:33 PM  

Lord please let this trigger the Left into ever greater fits of rage

Anonymous RJ January 24, 2017 8:34 PM  

People like Undocumented Civilizationalist should read 1 or 2 of Trump's books, preferably Time to Get Tough. It was published in 2011, when Trump was mulling running for president in 2012. It's a nice blueprint for what the President plans to do during his terms in office.

Anonymous Ben Cohen January 24, 2017 8:36 PM  

Trump is doing what Buchanan recommended many times: lower taxes domestically and raise them internationally.

How long before NAFTA is discarded?

Anonymous Ben Cohen January 24, 2017 8:39 PM  

Trump is moving fast on the big issues: immigration, trade, and then détente with Putin.

This is amazing to witness.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2017 8:39 PM  

I always figured the compromise would be on the dreamers. We have after all unwittingly invested in their human capital- their american funded education,their english fluency, their american identity. A good reason to hold onto them rather than surrender this human capital to a foreign country.

Blogger Unknown January 24, 2017 8:40 PM  

"What about those already here?" is the left's preferred battle space. You don't voluntarily fight in your enemy's preferred battle space. Conservatives have died in that battle space over and over and over for 40 years. This tactic has successfully prevented the primary battle of "How do we cut off the flow?" from even being enjoined.

The Left would very much like for Trump to bog down in trying to mop up before he cuts off their supply lines.

Any good general knows to cut the supply lines, then shift to mopping up.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 24, 2017 8:41 PM  

I would say, "You'd think they'd learn," but I've given up on that. They never will. If they were going to learn, they would have learned one of the previous dozen or more times they jumped all over a supposed Trump Betrayal and were disappointed.

Blogger Basil Makedon January 24, 2017 8:42 PM  

He cut of the refugees from Trashcanistan. Excellent! More winning please.

I agree, he's already exceeded expectations.

Blogger Sheila4g January 24, 2017 8:44 PM  

I had read various posts about DACA (including the Conservative Treehouse post) but had already schooled myself to give Trump at least 100 days to see what he'd actually do. Thus far, I have no complaints - and to read he may stop the refugee program (Please God, can we kill the UN and all its minions?) makes me ecstatic. I particularly want to read he's cancelled Obama's agreement to accept the various flotsam being held for trying to reach Australia by boat - mostly various Arabs.

Blogger Rob January 24, 2017 8:45 PM  

Do you remember your first job? Remember being 4 days in to that job and only getting a weak handle on it? Yeah, that's what Trump is doing right now. Give him a month, and he'll be fine.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 24, 2017 8:47 PM  

If he shuts down the refugee racket already, that'll be huge. I don't know if he even promised that, but "refugees" are one of the heartstring-pullers in immigration that I figured would be hard to go after. He'll be up against the churches that profit from it, and they'll have no trouble digging up some hard-luck cases for the cameras. If he's willing to take that on already, he's not going to back down on popular plans like the Wall and deporting illegals.

Blogger rumpole5 January 24, 2017 9:02 PM  

Keep up the pressure for him to do what he promised on illegal immigration. In any case, he has ALREADY done more than any Republican President since Reagan. Trump was the best candidate and I have no cause to repine my modest contribution to putting him right where he is. Go TRUMP!

Blogger Andrew Taylor January 24, 2017 9:03 PM  

A Cuckian on the virtues of losing:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/eidos/2017/01/coming-problem-far-right-paganism/

Anonymous shiv - destroyer of worlds January 24, 2017 9:06 PM  

After one and a half years of foreplay, Trump's now shafting the globalists in an inspiring eight year session. When he's found his stride, we'll know; the pitch of their screams will change.

Remember that his mission is saving America, big league. He intends it to be an illustration for posterity and for the world.

Tempo, as well as tone.

Blogger Samuel Nock January 24, 2017 9:10 PM  

"Trump's restrictions on refugees are likely to include a multi-month ban on admissions from all countries until the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security can increase the intensity of the vetting process."

God, how I wish instead of writing "can increase the intensity of the vetting process" they wrote "can figure out what the hell is going on."

Anonymous Hesiod January 24, 2017 9:10 PM  

Do you remember your first job?

Yep, suckering and barning tobacco. Fun job. Far more interesting than castrating piglets and burying dead, bloated sows.

Would still rather wear a tie while being an a Trump administration.

Blogger JCclimber January 24, 2017 9:16 PM  

A complete clampdown on the global warming gaians at the EPA within the first week.
Immediate action on immigration from muslim countries and an immediate moratorium on all immigration.
Cancelation of TPP.

The leftists are completely rocked back on their feet, those few who haven't fainted already.

The DACA would give the leftists a clear rallying point with plenty of photogenic morons to parade in front of the camera.

By holding off on it, like not blatantly moving forward with indictments of the Clinton machine, Trump is keeping the globalists guessing and paralyzed with fear.

The media is scrambling and unfocused because Trump has completely disrupted their Standard Operating Procedures and is ignoring all precedent of the previous cuckservatives.

It is glorious to behold.

Blogger Matt January 24, 2017 9:21 PM  

Still want a wall.

Blogger JCclimber January 24, 2017 9:21 PM  

I forgot to add his clear victory in cutting the major union leadership out of the traditional lockdown the Democratic party held on their support.

Major. He just snipped out a major support pillar of the Democratic party. They may not be Republicans but they will now hesitate to support any Democratic initiative while they wait to see what Trump can do for them.

And most of the Obama's accomplishments were done by Executive fiat, easily overturned, which has got to have the globalists in absolute vapor lock terror.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 9:22 PM  

@31:

To quote Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, there is nothing more permanent than a temporary refugee.

I'm ecstatic the refugee programs will be "suspended." Something tells me nothing is more permanent with President Donald John Trump at the helm than a suspended Muslim refugee program.

Blogger Unknown January 24, 2017 9:22 PM  

Trump's lifestyle inside Trump Tower has either made him (A) Soft or (B) given him high expectations. I say (b).

I think having young children at his age, too (Barron) has helped him focus on the priorities for the future. A Third World bazaar of New York chaos, is probably not what the President wants for his little tousled-haired kid.

I can easily imagine Barron growing up with the words Trump whispers in his ears, and taking up the baton for whatever program DJT has planned.

The biggest impediment, Trump envisions, is the MSM media. But he has allies there too, if he can but reach out and find them ... The same orthodoxy that tyrannizes ordinary citizens also stifles men of the media machine who want to protest the left-wing and stand, stand with the right ...

-- Sorserigod

www.sorserigod.wordpress.com

Anonymous Laz January 24, 2017 9:22 PM  

"Far more interesting than castrating piglets..."

That's saying a lot. The one time I had to hold the piglets was also my uncle's first time and nobody told us that they squeal at just the right frequency to make your diaphragm vibrate until you vomit.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 24, 2017 9:22 PM  

Don't worry about those immigrants or refugees they come from vibrant, diverse and tolerant cultures they will be fine, and probably better off than if they left those amazing countries with amazing cultures

Anonymous Sorserigod January 24, 2017 9:24 PM  

It's impressive how swiftly Trump is settling into the Oval Office and the office, like he had been practicing for this all his life.

One thought: Maybe he should send Pence, his lapdog, to deal with missions/errands to Congress, back and forth, rather than handling it himself. Or he can talk to his son-in-law, who seems to be his chief advisor, about doing it for him.

The king can't be seen budging from his throne.

-- Sorserigod

www.sorserigod.wordpress.com

Anonymous Hesiod January 24, 2017 9:30 PM  

That's saying a lot. The one time I had to hold the piglets was also my uncle's first time and nobody told us that they squeal at just the right frequency to make your diaphragm vibrate until you vomit.

Keeping their hooves still while covered in mud and shit was quite a task. Not everyone.

Anonymous Hesiod January 24, 2017 9:31 PM  

"Not for everyone."

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist January 24, 2017 9:32 PM  

This article says absolutely NOTHING about DACA! Nothing. So how is this a fail? The Dreamers get to keep getting their work permits. DACA was an executive order from Obama that can be immediately suspended by Trump. He doesn't even need to cancel the permits that have been issued. They can naturally expire. He just has to simply say stop issuing any more permits.

Dick Durbin says Trump told him he would find a way for the DACA people to stay:

"And after Sen. Dick Durbin thanked Trump at Friday’s inaugural lunch for his warm comments about Dreamers, Trump told the Illinois Democrat that he would find a way to accommodate the DACA recipients that was “fair” to them, Durbin recounted Tuesday."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-immigration-dreamers-234126

That is breaking a campaign promise. And it pisses me off. 800 each day get to stay and get work permits.

And Ann Coulter is even retweeting Krikorian on this, so I guess she must be a concern troll too.

Blogger Lazarus January 24, 2017 9:35 PM  

Trump is making every other politician from time immemorial look like the timid slackers that they are. Setting the bar pretty high.

I am even watching the press briefings everyday. I have never done that before.

They should let Bill Belichick do one as a Guest Host, like SNL.

Blogger weka January 24, 2017 9:36 PM  

@52. Oh yes. The temp. solution is rapidly usual procedure. The suspension of the usual procedure allows the enabling regulations to hit expiration date... and be too unimportant to bother legislating for.

The rage of the Left is hilarious. Particularly in NZ: the Labour activists screaming about Trump are making their chances of getting power in November much, much lower.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 24, 2017 9:38 PM  

To quote Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, there is nothing more permanent than a temporary refugee.

I'm ecstatic the refugee programs will be "suspended." Something tells me nothing is more permanent with President Donald John Trump at the helm than a suspended Muslim refugee program.


The next step, of course, is to repeal the Refugee Act of 1980 and cut the nuts off all the refugee resettlement rackets like LIARS, HIAS, "Catholic" Charities, etc. etc.

Anonymous Jonathan January 24, 2017 9:39 PM  

Trump has done more in four days than republicans have done in twenty five years.

Blogger Daetrin January 24, 2017 9:40 PM  

@50

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824083821889015809

Blogger VFM #7634 January 24, 2017 9:40 PM  

Forget passing laws in Congress, it's all about the "temporary" Executive Orders now.

The insane Somali importation program started back in 1991, under GW Bush. It was temporary. Clinton extended it, then extended it again. 25 years later that temporary program is still haunting us. 0bama was flying more Somali's in last month. Probably more this month.

Under a temporary program that's 25 years old.


That's another thing: countries like Somalia and Afghanistan that stay anarchic no-mans-land for decades and, because of their lapine birth rates, produce new refugees the whole time.

Refugee policy was built around post-WW2 European refugees. These hajjis make a complete mockery of the whole thing.

Blogger Lazarus January 24, 2017 9:49 PM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:And Ann Coulter is even retweeting Krikorian on this, so I guess she must be a concern troll too.

You forgot to do (((Krikorian))), like he does to his own tweets.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 9:50 PM  

@58:

Serious question: is suspension of all refugee admissions less of a priority than ending DACA? If on his third full day in office President Trump stops the flow of Muslims into the United States, introduces technology to crack down on visa overstays, and curtails benefits for illegals, I'm happy.

DACA should be reversed, and likely will be rather soon. I don't see it getting lower priority as a broken campaign promise, though. A memo to USCIS will stop the issuance of work visas instantly. Trump might do it between breakfast and lunch Thursday.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 9:59 PM  

61:

The next step, of course, is to repeal the Refugee Act of 1980 and cut the nuts off all the refugee resettlement rackets like LIARS, HIAS, "Catholic" Charities, etc. etc.

The long, probably very, very long, time out to figure what the hell is going on will castrate the refugee pimps. No product, no business.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 24, 2017 9:59 PM  

Something tells me nothing is more permanent with President Donald John Trump at the helm than a suspended Muslim refugee program.

Also, I don't think many Americans are going to look around six months from now and say, "Hey, I'm not seeing enough Mulsims lately. Isn't it about time to start hauling in those Somali refugees again?" It's one of those programs that the usual suspects will scream about ending, but once it's been gone a while and the profiteers have found something else to do, not many will miss it.

Blogger JCclimber January 24, 2017 10:00 PM  

He will resolve the DACA issue in a way that is "fair" to them?

I suppose letting them finish their "dream education" and then deporting their sorry asses back to the country they came from illegally would be quite fair.
Except to the fools who gave them a student loan which will never be repaid, of course. But a refusal to backstop any student loan to someone here illegally should quickly dry up that funding source as well.

Then they can take their "educated" butts back to culturally enrich their homelands. What a dream.

Anonymous Reen January 24, 2017 10:00 PM  

Box, I know you are excited about Trump, but DACA and middle eastern refugees are two different things

Anonymous BBGKB January 24, 2017 10:04 PM  

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" alarmist hysteria before tuning out or even being convinced of the opposite

The Gheys still think TRUMP will have roving gangs of electro shock therapy.

Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now.To Hell with that; imagine if Jeb was the president

Rubio foam parties.

I always figured the compromise would be on the dreamers. We have after all unwittingly invested in their human capital- their

As I tried to post on Cathleen's blog post about the lack of doctors, black/brown people are a lot more medically needy than east Asians and Whites.

Blogger Lazarus January 24, 2017 10:05 PM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:And Ann Coulter is even retweeting Krikorian on this, so I guess she must be a concern troll too.

I went to Anne's twitter feed and ctrl-F-ed "daca" and "krikorian and got nada

Sure you are not supplying alternate facts?

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 10:06 PM  

@68:

Right. The program repulses the public as it is. There will be no clamor to bring back more Muslim refugees. All the televised images of dusty, bleeding, blondish Syrian children didn't crank up a public outcry to import them or bomb Damascus. PR won't gin up support to re-implement the refugee programs, either. Out of sight, out of mind, out of here. I give the outcry three days, max.

Anonymous BBGKB January 24, 2017 10:10 PM  

"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824083821889015809"

For a group that believes he can be xher or They, they are really cucking about amoung being the old English spelling like theatre. Maybe he is bringing out the Shakes spear, Chaucer version of cuckold.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 24, 2017 10:13 PM  

The Progs must declare the refugee program a die in the ditch for program, and then go die in a ditch

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 10:15 PM  

@74:

The Wall tomorrow, too, eh? No buyer's remorse at all.

Blogger Peter Parker January 24, 2017 10:24 PM  

Lemme get this straight...

Trump has been Prez for all of 5 days, of which the first day was his inauguration, the next 2 were a weekend...and in his 1st two actual workdays he has already stopped international funding of the murder of the unborn with US tax dollars, allowed the non-enforcement of the unconstitutional obamacare socialist power grab, AND reversed the disaster of TPP....

and people are claiming he is going back on his campaign promises because he hasn't yet overturned DACA?

It took the anti-American elite (of BOTH parties) decades - admittedly greatly accelerated during the last 8 years - to screw the mechanical pooch of our national engine up this badly. It's been 2 damned workdays...give Trump time to fix things...damn...

Blogger Chris Lutz January 24, 2017 10:31 PM  

Repealing DACA is an easy media/Democrat point for them to trot out those valedictorian sob stories. My bet is he waits until he gets his people confirmed and then doesn't repeal it but modifies it in some way. No more blanket approvals but serious vetting, some revocations, and long delays in processing everything.

No, I'm not going to feel betrayed because everything I want doesn't happen immediately. DACA was always at the low end of my list because it was the biggest political hot potato. Let's say Trump cripples the refugee scam, gets illegal immigration down to a trickle, and gets the internal enforcement ball rolling. Does DACA mean that much then?

Blogger Mountain Man January 24, 2017 10:31 PM  

His executive orders regarding the EPA have been simply amazing. He's also talking about rescinding a number of their mod recent water regulations. Regulations that have imposed tremendous costs on both the farming community and the natural resource extraction businesses of this country. while accomplishing imperceptible improvement(s) to water quality.
The Donald is by far the most common sense and practical president this country has seen in over 150 years. The guy understands the plagues of excessive regulations and actually gives a shit about stopping them

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 24, 2017 10:33 PM  

Sounds like "not a priority" means overturning the DACA amnesty will have to wait until next week. Damn.

Blogger Lazarus January 24, 2017 10:37 PM  

When he gets a chance, Trump needs something enacted like the Canadian Bill C-309, that amends the Criminal Code to make it an offence to wear a mask or other disguise to conceal one’s identity while taking part in a riot or an unlawful assembly.

It is sold as a means of protecting peaceful demonstrators from being hijacked by masked thugs, like the inauguration riots.

Steve Sailer has an item about it.

Anonymous Ilk#10,191 January 24, 2017 10:41 PM  

Y'all remember that the Don is mortal, that there's only 24 hours in a day and that the folks typing up the executive orders can only work so fast. It'll take more than a few days to undo eight years of the affirmative action president's anti-American crap. The Don has done more good for the USA in two days than the Democrats have done in living memory.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 24, 2017 10:56 PM  

Y'all remember that the Don is mortal

...not so fast.

Anonymous BBGKB January 24, 2017 11:01 PM  

Well who would have guessed the advice for gays in a TRUMP admin was to have lots of sex? I guess breathing is a good plan also.
http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/gay-pep-talk/

Blogger Lazarus January 24, 2017 11:04 PM  

Ilk#10,191 wrote:The Don has done more good for the USA in two days than the Democrats have done in living memory.

And more than any Republican as well.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2017 11:15 PM  

Laz wrote:. The one time I had to hold the piglets was also my uncle's first time and nobody told us that they squeal at just the right frequency to make your diaphragm vibrate until you vomit.

Elastrators.

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:... Trump told the Illinois Democrat that he would find a way to accommodate the DACA recipients that was “fair” to them, Durbin recounted Tuesday."

Anything other than a bullet in the head is fair, in the sense of incredibly merciful. ``Fair'' treatment leaves Trump a great deal of latitude. ``Fair'' treatment is far from betrayal.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 24, 2017 11:19 PM  

and people are claiming he is going back on his campaign promises because he hasn't yet overturned DACA?

It's just ankle-biting, trying to discourage us, same as the last several months.

Some people are so invested in the narrative they built up during the campaign that they'd rather see Trump fail or turn against us -- no matter what it costs the nation -- than admit the Trumpkins were right about him all along.

Anonymous FP January 24, 2017 11:21 PM  

@78 Exactly. The best play with DACA is to use it against them, a bargaining chip.

The only area that has me a bit nervous is Trump's pick for healthcare. Denninger is sperging out about it on his blog lately.

Tis expected that the cucks are crying out of the gate and getting people riled up. It is all they have. The establishment gave Obama more of a break in his first 100 days.

Blogger 1337kestrel January 24, 2017 11:35 PM  

Related, someone on twitter referred to this massive barrage of executive actions as a Zerg Rush, overwhelming the defenses of Democrats who can't create a focused propaganda response to all of them. I thought that was a pretty entertaining analogy. Though, I don't know that it was really intended to work that way...

Anonymous krymneth January 24, 2017 11:42 PM  

It is difficult to distinguish between "Trump doing a Zerg Rush" and "Trump just getting down to business". Perhaps there is no daylight between those two things.

Anonymous FP January 24, 2017 11:49 PM  

Trump throws down the gauntlet with Chicongo:

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/01/breaking-president-donald-trump-tells-rahm-emanuel-fix-your-citys-carnage-or-i-will-be-invading-and-occupying-chicago-with-federal-troops/

Blogger Baldwin IV January 24, 2017 11:50 PM  

If I were Trump I wouldn't repeal DACA until all my cabinet nominees were confirmed by congress. Primarily, Jeff Sessions

Blogger Keith January 24, 2017 11:59 PM  

Do you think Karl Denninger has been concern trolling about healthcare the last few months?

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 25, 2017 12:00 AM  

DACA isn't even a major problem and if those people had to be horse traded away for something better so long as numbers go down, its all good.

Blogger tz January 25, 2017 12:01 AM  

Not only a wall, but a glass ceiling.

Blogger tz January 25, 2017 12:03 AM  

@93
Denninger is technically correct, but I don't think he applied to be a member of the Trump administration (even I have, though don't expect to serve).
What can't go on forever won't. It might take that crash to fix things, but first see what Trump does. The monopolies are another symptom of the crony corruption of the swamp.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair January 25, 2017 12:12 AM  

"Whether our side prevails is not contingent upon Trump's specific actions. Rather it is in how he wins the narrative.

So spergers complaining that he's lost because of this issue isn't of concern."

@1 Exactly. Have people forgotten that the media LIED repeatedly about the man during the campaign? What do they think they'll do come post inauguration? Limbaugh pointed it out correctly today that the media is going to keep hammering away.

"Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now. Or - God forbid - that malevolent, squirming bag of wrinkles known as Hillary Clinton."

@4 Cruz...what a buffoon. It's a shame too. When I was at A&M, I remember him doing solid work.

With regards to the article, commenters on ZeroHedge were complaining KSA was not included. At least this is better than no ban at all.

"@9 You do realize it takes a while for a challenge to make its way up to the Supreme Court, don't you? It might not get challenged there for a couple of years. Plenty of time for Trump to get a candidate nominated and confirmed."

@10 IIRC 90% of case brought before SCOTUS are never actually taken up.

"I swear some of these doomsayers are just gamma male basic bitches that want everything to be solved in a microsecond. Any sort of proportionality, timing, tact, etc. is seen as being a cuck."

@11 Exactly

"Eh, give 'em some slack. They've been losing for so long that they don't know what victory feels like, and the new sensation scares them to death. Almost like a socio-political form of learned helplessness; I know I work to overcome it myself."

@16 It was a strange sensation too for me. That's why I was staring at the TV at 3 am dumbfounded on that Wednesday morning.

"Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits

Winning."

@17 Don't you mean #winning! ? That's a great idea, the biometric stuff being finished. Every country I've ever visited has an exit system, and several have exit taxes. Why don't we?

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair January 25, 2017 12:12 AM  

Here's a good place to start. My dad, who is in his 70s, apparently isn't the only one who uses his SSN. There are a few others, and my guess is that they all have Hispanic surnames. The IRS knows who they are and where they live. Maybe someone should investigate to see if the SSNs were obtained illegally, starting with the last person on the list. If so, exact a large fine. "

@19 There was a book written years ago by a Catholic priest called The Immorality of Illegal Immigration. If someone's SSN stolen, a letter (a, b, etc.) is placed at the end of their SSN in their social security file at the SSA. If they enquire to the SSA about if their SSN has been stolen, the SSA can not tell them. It is due to the Privacy Act of 74. Imagine that! My question would be what about those with ITPNs? I'd say they are more likely to be a) resident aliens or b) illegal aliens. That'd be the place to start.

@20 Douche meet bag.

@25 What we need to do is to look to space. There's that meteor that NASA is sending a probe to. It has enough gold that if the gold were brought back, it would crash the world's economy.

"Or imagine McMuffin. He makes Jeb look like a right winger. His Twitter has descended into neocon parody."

@32 Knowing one former and one current member of the IC, they (the ones I know) are the exception. Anyone who has ever had access to the class side of things knows things are dicey out there. One thing to keep in mind is that once you no longer have a need to know, your knowledge on the most current of intel is like the rest of us: minimal! Sorry McMuffin.

"People like Undocumented Civilizationalist should read 1 or 2 of Trump's books, preferably Time to Get Tough. It was published in 2011, when Trump was mulling running for president in 2012. It's a nice blueprint for what the President plans to do during his terms in office."

@36 Give them a year. They'll be comparing it to Mein Kampf. Asshats.

"If he shuts down the refugee racket already, that'll be huge. I don't know if he even promised that, but "refugees" are one of the heartstring-pullers in immigration that I figured would be hard to go after. He'll be up against the churches that profit from it, and they'll have no trouble digging up some hard-luck cases for the cameras. If he's willing to take that on already, he's not going to back down on popular plans like the Wall and deporting illegals."

@43 Though her blog is down (possibly permanently) Vanishing American had on her first blog (which was discarded, though I saved all her posts) that something like 93% of refugee cases are fraudulent and that's known to the feds (the stat was from 03).

"God, how I wish instead of writing "can increase the intensity of the vetting process" they wrote "can figure out what the hell is going on.""

@47 Having been on the forefront of that screening when I was in graduate school (interned at one of our embassies, best 10 weeks of work EVAH!), there's only so much State and DHS can do. I take it as a positive sign meaning that the ban will be indefinite.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair January 25, 2017 12:13 AM  

"Do you remember your first job?

Yep, suckering and barning tobacco. Fun job. Far more interesting than castrating piglets and burying dead, bloated sows.

Would still rather wear a tie while being an a Trump administration."

@48 Check out the 2016 Plum List at the GPO's web site. There's 4k jobs they need to fill. Now granted, a lot of the EOFPOTUS jobs have been filled. There's still plenty of fun to be had in the other areas.

"Still want a wall."

@50 Patience grasshopper. Also, good name. That's my name too.

"One thought: Maybe he should send Pence, his lapdog, to deal with missions/errands to Congress, back and forth, rather than handling it himself. "

@56 Like Udina in ME2, Pence knows the diplomatic niceties of Congress having served the 5th District for some time.

"The next step, of course, is to repeal the Refugee Act of 1980 and cut the nuts off all the refugee resettlement rackets like LIARS, HIAS, "Catholic" Charities, etc. etc."

@61 Catholic charities is why I do not tithe to my archdiocese. That money stays in my parish. Charity begins at home, after all.

"Trump has done more in four days than republicans have done in twenty five years."

@62 Damn right. It's proof that most Republicans are, and never were, serious about doing anything.

"That's another thing: countries like Somalia and Afghanistan that stay anarchic no-mans-land for decades and, because of their lapine birth rates, produce new refugees the whole time."

@64 Another reason to keep dictators/monarchs in check. Somalia has been a craphole since Barre was ousted, not that it was a shining beacon beforehand. Afghanistan as well; Iran is a real tragedy, pre-79 it was legit (so I'm told, born in '86).

"When he gets a chance, Trump needs something enacted like the Canadian Bill C-309, that amends the Criminal Code to make it an offence to wear a mask or other disguise to conceal one’s identity while taking part in a riot or an unlawful assembly."

@81 But but muh First Amendment rights!!!!

"Y'all remember that the Don is mortal, that there's only 24 hours in a day and that the folks typing up the executive orders can only work so fast. It'll take more than a few days to undo eight years of the affirmative action president's anti-American crap."

@83 Well ten to one the majority of these EOs were ready before he took office. He's just strategically implementing them using salami tactics.

"Trump throws down the gauntlet with Chicongo:

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/01/breaking-president-donald-trump-tells-rahm-emanuel-fix-your-citys-carnage-or-i-will-be-invading-and-occupying-chicago-with-federal-troops/"

@91 I am NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET!

Also, the Dutch have a good marketing idea department. Grab'em by the pony!

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 25, 2017 12:52 AM  

Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that once you no longer have a need to know, your knowledge on the most current of intel is like the rest of us: minimal! Sorry McMuffin.
Unless someone keeps him up to date at the ‘pizza’ joint. We know that Kuru-ked Hillary and her coven were obtaining and sharing classified information outside the system.

Blogger Phil Mann January 25, 2017 12:53 AM  

Four days and STILL no wall. Failure to wall! Failure to wall! (I'm so disappointed.)

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 25, 2017 1:05 AM  

Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow, It'll Soon Be Here

Trump to issue Exec Orders Wednesday authorizing building border wall and targeting sanctuary cities

Blogger Student in Blue January 25, 2017 1:25 AM  

@81. Lazarus

You posted the exact same thing in the other thread.

So I'll post my response:

No, please.

The flipside of said law is that you can't protest, peacefully or not, against certain organizations if they're very unscrupulous, track down who you are and where you live, and start harassing you at your house and work.

This is exactly what Scientology does its very best to do to protesters, especially persistent ones.


Quite literally what you're proposing is handing in a bit of liberty for a little bit of security.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 25, 2017 2:35 AM  

Student in Blue wrote:The flipside of said law is that you can't protest, peacefully or not, against certain organizations if they're very unscrupulous, track down who you are and where you live, and start harassing you at your house and work.
(a) He only wants a law against wearing masks ‘while taking part in a riot or an unlawful assembly’, i.e. while committing another serious crime. (b) The District of Columbia already has a law (§ 22-3312.03) against wearing masks in public for any of several purposes, one of which is concealing one's identity during the commission of a crime or tort. That law should be enforced mercilessly against the Left. (c) Organizations which do what you describe (i.e. act like SJWs) should be prosecuted under the RICO act. Maybe now they will be.

Student in Blue wrote:This is exactly what Scientology does its very best to do to protesters, especially persistent ones.
I expect they'll be rolled up with (the rest of) the pizza cult anyway.

Student in Blue wrote:Quite literally what you're proposing is handing in a bit of liberty for a little bit of security.
The Left wants to exterminate us; the only question now is who gets wiped out. The other side has reduced the law to merely a tool to be used by the party in power; now it's our turn to point it at them.

Anonymous Garrulus January 25, 2017 3:17 AM  

The ban doesn't seem as much muslim related, but enemy of usa/saud/israel related. I guess it's a start. I hope this human garbage now doesn't come to fortress Europa instead.

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes January 25, 2017 4:57 AM  

"Another order will block visas from being issued to Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified."

Presuming this includes student visas, the biggest news for academia is a ban on Iranian student visas. Student visas are valid for only 2 years so most students need to reapply at least once.

Back before the Iranian revolution, Iran supplied more college students to the US than any other country. Recently they've been out of the top 10. Right now they're about 10,000 out of a total foreign student population of about a million which is about 1%. Foreign students are about 4% of total students in the US. So this about 1%x4% = .04% of students.

But Iranian students are heavily represented in the STEM disciplines and grad school, especially engineering. Most of them want to stay in the US after graduation. Here's a somewhat informative infographic:
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/infographic-iranian-students-in-the-united-states

Blogger #7139 January 25, 2017 5:03 AM  

The God Emperor says Build. The. Wall. Hail the God Emperor! Hail! Hail! Hail!
May fear and terror consume our enemies!
May they drown in the sea of their own confusion!

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2017 5:10 AM  

Garrulus wrote:The ban doesn't seem as much muslim related, but enemy of usa/saud/israel related. I guess it's a start. I hope this human garbage now doesn't come to fortress Europa instead.

Hope don't cut it Garrulus. Get yourself a Trump.

Anonymous llsepher January 25, 2017 5:18 AM  

The precedent this sets is absolutely delectable. Even if the U.S. is never able to send back the post-1965 and is destroyed demographically in the long run, perhaps Europe will be able to reverse course in time because of this. Either way, all hail the God Emperor, and may overcome my tempered expectations and save the U.S.!

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2017 5:18 AM  

Student in Blue wrote:The flipside of said law is that you can't protest, peacefully or not, against certain organizations if they're very unscrupulous, track down who you are and where you live, and start harassing you at your house and work.

It specifically refers to riot or unlawful assembly. You can protest against scientology in a mascot outfit if you want as long as it is done lawfully and without rioting.

Anonymous MIG January 25, 2017 5:21 AM  

It has now been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama's birth certificate, the one he presented, is a forgery. It doesn't mean that Obama was born in another country, but it means that for some reason he wanted to conceal something on his real birth certificate. Why doesn't Trump pursue this? It could be reasonably claimed that because of forgery, Obama was not a valid president, and thus his Supreme Court appointments, Sotomayor and Kagan, can be rolled back legally, leaving two more vacancies.

What am I missing here? Is my reasoning flawed?

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti January 25, 2017 5:35 AM  

What am I missing here? Is my reasoning flawed?

I've heard about the press release from Sheriff Joe, but I'm disinclined to accept the claim that the birth certificate was a forgery as fact, without some other kind of verification. Do you have sources?

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) January 25, 2017 5:42 AM  

WALL

Anonymous MIG January 25, 2017 5:49 AM  

@112

I don't know what you mean by sources, but they used two independent consulting companies, one in the U.S. and one in Europe, to prove that the document was a forgery. They even found the original document that was used as the blueprint. Here is the press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuhF-Ok3djI

I find this very convincing.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2017 6:12 AM  

> but I'm disinclined to accept the claim that the birth certificate was a forgery as fact,

They put the document out where you could download it. Simply open it in one of the appropriate Adobe programs and look at all the editting that was done. Its an obvious Photoshop.

Anonymous aegis-1080 January 25, 2017 6:31 AM  

So, people can't wait until Sessions gets the job before saying that Trump "caved in". Idiots.

Anonymous simplytimothy January 25, 2017 6:49 AM  

Mount Trump will tower over mnt Rushmore. It Wii be yuge.

Blogger John rockwell January 25, 2017 6:50 AM  

Trump's fight with the federal bureaucracy and dealing with the fed and their associated fiat currencies and money as debt would be a tough one. Since so much of that is foundational to the globalist's power.

And I think academia needs purging as well if we are to stop the production of new leftists en masse.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2017 6:52 AM  

This is what winning looks like.

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 25, 2017 6:54 AM  

"journalist" rioters are discovering that the rules of the game have changed US news is squealing already

They are whining that while participating in a mob they were detained and then not immediately let go when showing their press pass. I wonder what these journalists were wearing? Was it all black and masks? That detail seems to be missing from the story. Also they are making a flimsy argument that only the people who committed the vandalism should be charged. Never mind that they were actively providing cover for the perpetrators. The best past is the whining that they are being charged with felonies rather than the same old misdemeanors. A new Sheriff is in town and he is done with your crap.

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 25, 2017 6:55 AM  

The construction of the wall will be completed with tons of Hispanics including Mexican-Americans (over half the BP agents are the same), which will have a profound psychological impact as they close off others trying to board their life-raft. Plus, it will be a jobs program, let's be honest. This will generate lots of jobs, lots of money, contracts, etc.

We will never land a man on Mars until there is a Wall.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2017 6:57 AM  

Academics just need to be cut off. Trump can do this in a political way by sponsoring alternative credentials for career entry (online courses, open courseware with standardized testing, 2-year degrees with difficult entry requirements, credentialed psychometric testing for HR departments, etc.).

Why are geniuses going hungry in this country? Our economy needs their brainpower! Repeal Duke Power vs. Griggs now!

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 25, 2017 6:58 AM  

To be fair, His First Hundred Seconds have been less productive than any other President's First Hundred Days, since maybe as far back as the 2nd Obama administration.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2017 7:00 AM  

JustAnotherPairOfEyes wrote:"Another order will block visas from being issued to Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified."

Presuming this includes student visas, the biggest news for academia is a ban on Iranian student visas. Student visas are valid for only 2 years so most students need to reapply at least once.

Back before the Iranian revolution, Iran supplied more college students to the US than any other country. Recently they've been out of the top 10. Right now they're about 10,000 out of a total foreign student population of about a million which is about 1%. Foreign students are about 4% of total students in the US. So this about 1%x4% = .04% of students.

But Iranian students are heavily represented in the STEM disciplines and grad school, especially engineering. Most of them want to stay in the US after graduation. Here's a somewhat informative infographic:

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/infographic-iranian-students-in-the-united-states


Is this good for White Children?

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 25, 2017 7:02 AM  

related to a prior topic, that precious white snowflake from Idaho was running for Chair of the DNC, and she put her email out there, I am surprised if she doesn't receive tons of double-blue pill emails from trolls..

"Yes, we need you to lead us, to shut down the white voices in the DNC...you are not being heard loud and hard enough."

Their slogan could be "Quiet the white voices, loud the Tapestry" Maya Angelou would be proud.

Alternative: "Hamilton was black!"

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 25, 2017 7:02 AM  

JustAnotherPairOfEyes wrote:some totally irrelevant crap

If your definition of "STEM" and "engineering" is anything like your grasp of genetics in the previous thread you are probably talking about wimmins studies and remedial pottery classes here.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 25, 2017 7:08 AM  

Having a de facto dictator means we're finally taking this cold civil war seriously. It hurts my curmudgeon cred to say it, but there might actually be hope.

Also, fuck Mars.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 25, 2017 7:09 AM  

Making us in EUrostan a little bit jealous...

Now its clear why the political classes were against him - he's shown them up for doing absolutely nothing except eating free lunches and taking tax payer funded holidays will they "debate" policy - a true basket of despicables.

Anonymous Luke January 25, 2017 7:24 AM  

27. White Knight Leo #0368 January 24, 2017 8:25 PM
Imagine if Ted Cruz was president now.

If Ted Cruz had been elected, and I'm saying this as a guy who wanted to vote for him, we wouldn't have gotten anything like this.

I've thrown in the towel - Cruz was not ready. Maybe in 2024 we can take another look at him."


No. Cruz will never be "ready", never belonging in the White House. A Hispanic can never be trusted to be hard-core enough on immigration, one of the top issues of our generation.

Anonymous Homesteader January 25, 2017 7:31 AM  

Laz wrote:. The one time I had to hold the piglets was also my uncle's first time and nobody told us that they squeal at just the right frequency to make your diaphragm vibrate until you vomit.

Ominous Cowherd wrote-
Elastrators

Can't use elastrators on piglets. Gotta slice and squeeze.

The fun part is doing half grown boars. Ask me how I know.

Anonymous Luke January 25, 2017 7:33 AM  

06. JustAnotherPairOfEyes January 25, 2017 4:57 AM

"But Iranian students are heavily represented in the STEM disciplines and grad school, especially engineering. Most of them want to stay in the US after graduation."

More places for AMERICAN students in grad schools, more Teaching Assistant and Research Assistant openings, more job openings in the business world post-graduation, more openings in Ph.D. teaching positions, all for the "cost" of fewer Muslims here, and IRANIAN Muslims at that. It's win-win-win every where you look.

Blogger Avalanche January 25, 2017 7:57 AM  

@58 "Dick Durbin says Trump told him he would find a way for the DACA people to stay:

"... Trump ... he would find a way to accommodate the DACA recipients that was “fair” to them, Durbin recounted Tuesday.""

FAIR might also include: "finish college then get the hell out of 'not-your' country!" Allowing one tidbit out of hundreds (he even gave us a LIST of a hundred!) of things President Trump (still love writin' that!) intended to do to affect your mood is silly. He's only been in office 4 days!!

Blogger Cail Corishev January 25, 2017 7:58 AM  

The fun part is doing half grown boars. Ask me how I know.

When they're big enough it takes two men to throw them and hold them still while a third cuts them? Yeah.

While I liked the idea of Trump having a stack of EOs ready to go and signing them in a blitz on day one, I admit there's good strategy in spreading them out over the first week or more. It doesn't give the Fake News a chance to organize around a narrative. It takes more than a day to build a narrative and get a head of steam behind it, but if they're still bitching about Monday's acts today, they can't bitch about today's. If they try to keep up, nothing gets traction. So they're disorganized and ineffective, and can't slow down his momentum.

Blogger Avalanche January 25, 2017 8:41 AM  

@107 "The God Emperor says Build. The. Wall. Hail the God Emperor! Hail! Hail! Hail!"

Hey, you, audience-member! Putchyer damned arm down. We DON'T use that salute anymore, right? Sheesh!

Blogger Dirk Manly January 25, 2017 8:45 AM  

No halal food for the rapefugees.They can get their haalal food when they get to a Muslim country. Until then, sushi and pork. Beggars must never be allowed to be choosers.

Anonymous BBGKB January 25, 2017 9:19 AM  

Repealing DACA is an easy media/Democrat point for them to trot out those valedictorian sob stories

Steve Sailor proved most of the valedictorians were fake, and those that were not graduated from schools that valedictorian didn't matter because someone had to be it.

Not only a wall, but a glass ceiling.

We already have that for affirmative action NASA we can't make it to the space station on our own.

Obama was not a valid president, and thus his Supreme Court appointments, Sotomayor and Kagan, can be rolled back legally

All 3 who performed gay marriages before not recusing themselves on the vote can be impeached.

No halal food for the rapefugees. That makes makework jobs for moslems.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 25, 2017 9:34 AM  

BBGKB wrote:That makes makework jobs for moslems.
Not necessarily. It's the same as kosher, a rabbi can sanctify the slaughter just as well.

Anonymous genericviews January 25, 2017 9:51 AM  

The Washington Post Express edition headline this morning is, "The president's fixation on asserting his legitimacy of his victory has sucked momentum from his first days in office."

Are they watching the same country we live in? They are a full 4 days behind. It is no wonder no one listens to them any more.

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 9:58 AM  

In other areas of winning, Gov. Abbott is gearing up to take down Sheriff Hernandez, the Travis Co Sheriff who refuses to help ICE. Take down as in remove her from office. Dunno if it will work, but even if it doesn't she may prefer cooperation to fighting for her political life.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/abbott-seek-law-remove-texas-sheriffs-who-don-help-immigration-officials/B3KdvqZqi8XclXg7VvKg9I/

Her predecessor was raked over the coals by LULAC (not La RAza, LULAC, the Chamber of Commerce Hispanics) for letting ICE have a DESK in the county jail. Literally, all he did was let them have a place to sit. I don't even know if they got a phone.

It was a big red pill for me when the moderate Hispanic group opposed even the slightest cooperation with ICE for dealing with people in custody for other crimes. A wall is what they deserve.

Blogger Student in Blue January 25, 2017 11:43 AM  

@LurkingPuppy
(a) He only wants a law against wearing masks ‘while taking part in a riot or an unlawful assembly’, i.e. while committing another serious crime. (b) The District of Columbia already has a law (§ 22-3312.03) against wearing masks in public for any of several purposes, one of which is concealing one's identity during the commission of a crime or tort. That law should be enforced mercilessly against the Left. (c) Organizations which do what you describe (i.e. act like SJWs) should be prosecuted under the RICO act. Maybe now they will be.

a) Oh, so a silly crime is alright? I kid, I kid.

Regardless, if taking part in a riot or an unlawful assembly is already illegal... why the hell do you need another law penalizing masks while breaking the law as well? What eventuality does it cover that isn't covered already?

b) And so this law's on the books for DC, how much good is it actually doing? What is it actually changing? From here, it doesn't look like it's changed a damn thing.

c) They should be investigated and prosecuted for a lot of things. However, even if there were a said RICO crackdown, there will always be someone breaking the law. Laws do not prevent criminals from breaking them, after all. So there'll always be someone who acts like them.

The Left wants to exterminate us; the only question now is who gets wiped out. The other side has reduced the law to merely a tool to be used by the party in power; now it's our turn to point it at them.

It's fine using what's on the books already to put the screws to them. Not adding more laws, because to my recollection that always seems to backfire eventually.

@Lazarus
It specifically refers to riot or unlawful assembly. You can protest against scientology in a mascot outfit if you want as long as it is done lawfully and without rioting.

If rioting and unlawful assembly is already not allowed, why penalize masks as well? Do you think that if someone is going to commit arson, they're suddenly going to follow the "don't wear masks" law?

Seriously, if it's only during crimes... then what's the point? To prevent people from merging back into the crowd? That doesn't discourage people from wearing masks in the first place. The only way you could do that is if you banned masks during protests to begin with, which leads back to my original point.

It's completely pointless.

Blogger Robert What? January 25, 2017 12:19 PM  

I voted for Trump and am increasingly pleased with my choice. But I have mixed feelings about the wall. I think it eventually could be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 12:37 PM  

@139 The AntiFas do two things reliably, 1) show up in masks, 2) assault people from behind and in packs. If you see a bunch of AntiFas, it's a safe assumption they are not there to assemble peacefully and that they aren't trying to keep their noses warm.

An anti-mask law gives cops the power to arrest the AntiFas before trouble starts, which will help keep assemblies peaceful. Without their masks, they will be less prone to start violence because they know they can be identified & prosecuted.

The tricky part is getting enforcement. Trump can't prosecute them all from the Oval Office. You need cops, prosecutors and judges across the land to stand up to the AntiFas attempt to undermine First Amendment/civil society/res publica by violence.

Could it backfire, not really. The Left is already committed to punishing us for being white, for failing to elect their Lizard Queen, and other forms of lese majaesty. We're already nazi scum in their eyes and if they get in power they will not stop at mask laws in suppressing us.

Blogger Student in Blue January 25, 2017 1:23 PM  

@Culture War Draftee
If you see a bunch of AntiFas, it's a safe assumption they are not there to assemble peacefully and that they aren't trying to keep their noses warm.

Do you really want police to start attempting to engage in mind-reading to judge who is or who is not antifa and arrest them only on their instincts, or for police to simply arrest the people starting fights?

Which of the two do you think is actually plausible for the police to accomplish?

Now turn it around and put yourself as a peaceful protestor, and the police as corrupt. Which of the two do you want now?

An anti-mask law gives cops the power to arrest the AntiFas before trouble starts, which will help keep assemblies peaceful.

A strictly anti-mask law with no conditions of "while committing a crime" then runs into the original objection I raised:

The flipside of said law is that you can't protest, peacefully or not, against certain organizations if they're very unscrupulous, track down who you are and where you live, and start harassing you at your house and work.

This has already happened before.

Without their masks, they will be less prone to start violence because they know they can be identified & prosecuted.

That's like saying we should ban anonymity on the Internet, so that criminals will be less prone to hack computers because they know they can be identified & prosecuted.

Why are you posting under a pseudonym, sir? Do you have... something to hide?

The tricky part is getting enforcement.

That's the stupid damn point in the first place. We don't need more laws, we need better enforcement of the laws we have already!

Could it backfire, not really.

If these kind of anti-anonymity laws were on books and enforced uniformly, do you think Trump's campaign could've gotten anywhere near as much traction online? Anonymous twitter trolls did yeoman's work, and practically everyone in the beginning took to pseudonyms to protect themselves. Trump very likely would not have gotten elected, as he wouldn't have gotten the nomination in the first place.

Think not of the next election 7 years from now, but instead of the next 50 years when the citizens may have to attempt to upset the fat government status quo yet again.

Good heavens man, it's clear as day how corrupt the system is already, stop trying to give it more power to use once Trump is gone! There's plenty of power in it already.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 1:28 PM  

@23 Bobby Farr
Spicer refused to clearly state that the Spanish language website would be restored. A positive hint (although the fact he is still having press conferences is itself cause for concern)
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They are using the press conferences to throw rabbits out for the slobbering hounds of the press to chase after. It's working bigly, don't you think?

I'm starting to hear from a few non political relatives, and the consensus so far is "Trumps really kicking ass, isn't he!"

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 1:31 PM  

With the God Emperor, 1 day is as 100 days

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 1:36 PM  

@49 JCclimber
A complete clampdown on the global warming gaians at the EPA within the first week.
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Winning - it took the watermelons decades to get that where it is.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 1:42 PM  

@58 Undocumented Civilizationalist

Dick Durbin says
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Never believe anything Dick Turban says, ever.


And Ann Coulter is even retweeting Krikorian on this, so I guess she must be a concern troll too.
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Ann Coulter is not always right, and we can be guaranteed she will stay on this issue like a ferocious honey badger.

I'm not worried about DACA yet, it's only day 4 FFS!

I'm seeing the outlines of Trumps strategy, which is throwing out inconsequential rabbits every couple days for the media to chase around.

Let's give him a little time before crying about betrayal.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 1:43 PM  

@59 Lazarus
Trump is making every other politician from time immemorial look like the timid slackers that they are. Setting the bar pretty high.
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Saw a tweet yesterday believe it was Celente - paraphrase "Watching this guy makes me wonder WTF all these other presidents were doing " :P

Blogger Feather Blade January 25, 2017 2:07 PM  

JustAnotherPairOfEyes wrote:But Iranian students are heavily represented in the STEM disciplines and grad school, especially engineering. Most of them want to stay in the US after graduation.

Of course they want to stay. The problem (...yes, one among many) with that is that then their home country never gets the benefit of the skills and knowledge they've acquired here.

Which means that there's no point in letting them in to study in the first place.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 2:29 PM  

@91 FP
Trump throws down the gauntlet with Chicongo:

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/01/breaking-president-donald-trump-tells-rahm-emanuel-fix-your-citys-carnage-or-i-will-be-invading-and-occupying-chicago-with-federal-troops/
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Damn! Now he's trolling the sheeiiit out of them!

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 2:40 PM  

@140 Robert What?

I voted for Trump and am increasingly pleased with my choice. But I have mixed feelings about the wall. I think it eventually could be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.
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We can chase and corner all the libtards against the wall

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 2:41 PM  

@142 I've been to plenty of protests and never wore a mask.

The police don't need to be mind readers, they just need tools to crush the AntiFas. If they don't we need to bring to bear state and Federal power to bring the locals to heel.

The Constitution only ever functioned when the political body (the American people) was healthy. Right now we've got a tumor called leftist violence. It has to be removed, effectively and decisively, or everything dies, the Constitution, the American people, the whole shebang. I'd like to keep my Constitution, but I need to save my life first.

Blogger Student in Blue January 25, 2017 3:00 PM  

@Culture War Draftee
I've been to plenty of protests and never wore a mask.

I have, and I've had to, when I protested Scientology for all the good that did. The Church of Scientology has a long history of hiring private investigators (before facebook was a thing) to find out who protestors are, so they can literally harass them at home and at work. I've said this before, already.

Just because you haven't run into a situation where you haven't felt the need to use it, does not mean that it does not exist.

The way you state that line as if there's no way any good person would have to hide their identity really pisses me off because it's ignorant and it sounds very self-righteous.

Please tell me exactly what tools the police are missing that they need to crush the antifas. Please, tell me exactly what you think is missing, because I believe you don't have a clue to the specifics on ground and only have fee-fees instead. Prove me wrong.

The police don't need to be mind readers, they just need tools to crush the AntiFas. If they don't we need to bring to bear state and Federal power to bring the locals to heel.

They have all the tools they need already. They just need to actually enforce them. Are you reading what I'm typing? I made that point already.

The Constitution only ever functioned when the political body (the American people) was healthy.

Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. I was never advocating against removing leftist violence.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 25, 2017 3:37 PM  

I don't have to prove you wrong. The rioters who are wearing the masks and getting away with crimes prove you wrong. If it didn't work for the violent rioters they wouldn't do it.

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 3:48 PM  

@152 I don't have facts? Lol. Like you do. So tell us, what is your exact plan to deal with people who are openly and visibly organized to commit violence while waiting very patiently for them to commit violence? It may not be as easy as you think, but do provide us your riot-control plans. A CV of your experience in the area is not required.

In any case, your so worried about "muh mask" if the Leftists get power again. Like they won't just let you get beaten to a pulp by whatever commie thug, masked or not, while the authorities stand by watching. Like they'll hesitate to crush dissent if they get power. We'll all be standing by, weeping, if only we hadn't advocated for MASK LAWS.

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2017 3:57 PM  

I agree with Student in Blue. We may need, at times, to wear masks for our own safety. Most of us here conceal our identities on-line lest we be de-employed for our opinions. Don't doubt that there are plenty of SJWs ready to destroy you for WrongThink.

Anonymous Discard January 25, 2017 4:00 PM  

Aeoli Pera: Keep slugging. Overturning Griggs vs Duke Power would deal a mortal blow to the university monopoly.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2017 4:05 PM  

> I think it eventually could be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

There's this thing called a northern border. Or do you have something against Canada?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 4:09 PM  

Iran is a real tragedy, pre-79 it was legit (so I'm told, born in '86).
Back in the 70s, I had an Irani roommate. The pattern then was that the Shah's government would recruit the best students in matha nd science and give them a 4-year free ride to a STEM degree at an American university, on the condition that they return to Iran for at least 5 years after graduation, with 1 year in military service, either before or after college. Failure to return was treated legally as a debt in default. Most people went back, the loss rate was something like 10%, and the returnees were making Iran an engineering, industrial and science powerhouse in the region.
Then the revolution happened.
A great many were sent back before completing their degree. The ones who remained were mostly secularized and Westernized. Their connections to home were more or less severed due to the difficulty of travel. When they could get back, the Iran they returned to was not the Iran they had left. Most of them are still here. My former roommate owns a bar and pizza joint in Seattle.
A large minority were radicalized. Forced to choose between the West and Islam, they chose Islam. They are who have spent the last 35 years building mosques.
The Carter administration bungled the handling of the Iranian revolution terribly, creating enormous problems not just for the US but for Iran as well.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 4:14 PM  

Culture War Draftee wrote:, what is your exact plan to deal with people who are openly and visibly organized to commit violence while waiting very patiently for them to commit violence?
How about not prosecuting people who act in self defence? Make the wearing of a mask de facto admission of initiation of violence in such a case.
Any local police try to bring charges against someone resisting the Antifas? Slap them with civil rights charges, the same way the Lefties have been doing to any police department that shoots a Black.

Blogger Sagramore January 25, 2017 5:01 PM  

@19 @98 Reissue all of them. Require photo ID and a state birth certificate. Implement 100% E-Verify as part of this. It's not hard. It's just that the political will hasn't been there.

Look at Canadian immigration. You may laugh about the weedman but he knows that the open door policy is mostly virtue signalling. We tightened up immigration years ago.

Blogger maniacprovost January 25, 2017 5:03 PM  

The mask status quo is fine. Someone wearing a mask and burning a trash can is generally worse than someone just burning a trash can; this allows you to punish them twice as hard, and makes it easier to use the mere possession of a mask as circumstantial evidence for prosecution of the trash can burning.

Blogger Student in Blue January 25, 2017 5:55 PM  

@Culture War Draftee
I don't have facts? Lol. Like you do. So tell us, what is your exact plan to deal with people who are openly and visibly organized to commit violence while waiting very patiently for them to commit violence? It may not be as easy as you think, but do provide us your riot-control plans. A CV of your experience in the area is not required.

Now you're just avoiding the question I posed to you, while throwing in snark. Weak.

By the way, "waiting very patiently for them to commit violence" is part of a basic American thing called "innocent until proven guilty".

It's pretty odd you want to abandon a core American legal concept that has been there for a looong time. Like you're spitting on it.

In any case, your so worried about "muh mask" if the Leftists get power again. Like they won't just let you get beaten to a pulp by whatever commie thug, masked or not, while the authorities stand by watching. Like they'll hesitate to crush dissent if they get power. We'll all be standing by, weeping, if only we hadn't advocated for MASK LAWS.

The only thing I'm worried about is your ignorance, advocating for core concepts that are at odds with both how we arrived where we're at, and that which is our strength.

And if masks don't matter, why are you pushing so hard for such a law especially when it probably won't even accomplish what you're hoping it would?

Which, by the way, I pointed out already. But you ignored that.

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 8:06 PM  

@162 RE: snark. "Fee-fees"? How old are you?

AS I've said, if you see a bunch of trouble-makers, fixed up in trouble-maker gear, it's a sound idea to deal with them before they cause trouble. Now about your CV in riot control...

I thought VP was full of stone-cold helicopter pilots, but apparently suggesting masked anarchists need some stern correction is beyond the pale.

Blogger Culture War Draftee January 25, 2017 8:19 PM  

@159 I wonder if that is part of what happened at the shooting in Seattle. It's unusual for a shooter to be released so quickly. There's video of the incident, which helps the shooter's case. Describing the victim as some sort of "white supremacist" (he had a swastika tattoo, for real!) is sort of icing on the cake. The swastika was crossed out, but still. Industrial strength lulz.

Mask laws are a tactic, and tactics always shift with circumstances. The ultra-left is desperate to ratchet up the violence, so anything that damps them down is good. Supporting counter-attacks makes sense. Putting pressure on left-converged police commands is very good.

Blogger Student in Blue January 26, 2017 12:30 AM  

@163. Culture War Draftee
RE: snark. "Fee-fees"? How old are you?

For a "Culture War Draftee", you sure are miserable at recognizing basic tools used in the culture war so far, including the "fee-fees" meme. Moron.

Now please, continue to prove just how tough you are when you get so uptight about slightly mean words that you continue to duck my points. It's really making you out like a champ.

AS I've said, if you see a bunch of trouble-makers, fixed up in trouble-maker gear, it's a sound idea to deal with them before they cause trouble. Now about your CV in riot control...

There's already plenty that the police have available to deal with them, you mouth-breather. They just don't for various reasons.

Again, since you asserted that the police don't have the tools to deal with them:

Please tell me exactly what tools the police are missing that they need to crush the antifas. Please, tell me exactly what you think is missing, because I believe you don't have a clue to the specifics on ground and only have fee-fees instead. Prove me wrong.

Prove me wrong in my opinion about you. Please. I wish to have a better opinion about you.

And you're going to look like a complete moron if you try to play a game around "well let me know about ur CV in riots loll". Because it's not my expertise being called into question, it's yours.

I thought VP was full of stone-cold helicopter pilots, but apparently suggesting masked anarchists need some stern correction is beyond the pale.

How are you this stupid that from everything I've typed, this is what you've interpreted it as? You're so far off the mark, I'm wondering if you're a Culture War Double-Agent instead.

Anonymous Mathias January 26, 2017 3:42 AM  

@150

The difference between a prison and a fortress is what side of the door the lock is on.

The wall is just a tool, what matters is the intent of it's master.

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 27, 2017 11:36 AM  

Discard wrote:Overturning Griggs vs Duke Power would deal a mortal blow to the university monopoly.
You need to repeal the CRA on which it's based.  That's harder.

Repealing Title IX would work wonders.  Also very hard.

As for declaring the entire Obama administration illegitimate and its acts null and void, I've been pushing that for a while.  However, this has to be done AFTER Trump has his cabinet in place, and probably investigated on the quiet to try to prevent any (further) destruction of evidence.

Anonymous Discard January 28, 2017 2:29 PM  

168. Mr Rational: CRA?

Anonymous Mr. Rational January 30, 2017 9:07 PM  

Civil Rights Act.

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