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Wednesday, January 25, 2017

Everyone is fair game

An unusual liberal takes the time to think through the consequences of identity-justified violence:
It was an eye-opening reaction. The reason I penned the tweet was because I thought the liberal consensus that serves as the bedrock of the American society was intact. I had this whole spiel planned about how if we as a society endorse violence against one Nazi, we’re responsible if it leads to worse violence, maybe even murder, where do you draw the line, blah blah blah. I thought it was more or less self-evident that you don’t murder people on the street for expressing views you don’t like. I thought we were all the same page, and I was wrong.

What was most depressing is that the pro-violence responses came almost uniformly from liberals. I suppose that isn’t that shocking: 51% of modern Democrats believe the government should ban hateful speech entirely. The more intelligent responses phrased it this way: Nazis are so violent, so dangerous, so outside the mainstream, they don’t deserve the usual protections afforded to political speech, including protection from violence. Still, it is sad to see so many liberal Americans abandoning one of the founding suppositions of liberalism at the dawn of an administration where it will be more necessary than ever before.

The hypocrisy is blinding. Nazis, you see, are fascist, jackbooted thugs who suppress others’ liberties and murder those they find despicable. To stop this threat, we must become fascist, jackbooted thugs who suppress others’ liberties and murder those we find despicable. The cure isn’t worse than the disease, it is the disease. (And yes, this all comes after Donald Trump was rightfully savaged by the same people for openly calling for violence against protesters)

Even if you buy the lesser notion that Nazis deserved to be punched in the face, who decides who the Nazis are? Spencer swears up and down that he’s not a Nazi. That’s obviously a questionable claim. But the number of people in American politics who are called Nazis or racists and protest that they aren’t is… well, everyone at this point.

Going by many people’s judgment, Donald Trump is a Nazi. Before he was a Nazi, Obama and Bush were the Nazis, Reagan was a Nazi, William F. Buckley was a crypto-fascist as I recall. Today, dozens of people have called me a Nazi.
This is just the dawn of open identity-driven violence. Today, the hypocritical Left believes violence is justified so long as the target can be accused of being a Nazi, which includes everyone from Tomorrow, it will believe violence is justified so long as the target appears white.

And that's when the responsive violence begins, and the Saxon begins to hate. This is why the rise of the Alt-Right is inevitable. Neither conservatives nor the Alt-Lite have any conceptual means of even beginning to deal with this inevitable situation. Their entire strategy, such as it is, relies upon hoping that what always happens in multiethnic states doesn't happen here, because Melting Pot, Constitution, and Magic Dirt.

But the demographic and socionomic trends could not be more clear.

The irony is that despite their awareness of the intractability of the situation in the Middle East, and their own 200-year failure to successfully integrate Africans, most Americans, even those nominally on the Right, still believe it is possible to be invaded by 65 million+ foreigners without the state collapsing amidst violence. And the idea that magic interracial relationships are somehow going to make this transformation possible is exceptionally stupid. All the television shows and broadcast commercials notwithstanding, there is probably not much more interracial procreation taking place now than there was prior to the 20th century. Sounds hard to believe? Remember, depending upon the study, black Americans are between one-fifth and one-quarter European.

All of this means Round Two is almost certainly going to be more vicious than Round One. And only the Alt-Right has the conceptual model to predict and make sense of these events as they develop.

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Anonymous Baseball Savant January 25, 2017 7:24 AM  

And that's when the responsive violence begins, and the Saxon begins to hate.

I can't speak for everyone but in Indiana I am seeming to notice a visceral change in white people to hatred towards other races. Admittedly I tend to hang out with a bunch of meatheads away from my profession, but sometimes these people will openly antagonize people of color. The gym is typically the worse. Monkeys, Niggers, Towelheads, Wetbacks and what have you are terms oftentimes used in the vicinity of those around them. There are more than a few 6'0/260lbs white guys who are strong as ox hoping for violence. It's interesting.

Blogger Reno Chris January 25, 2017 7:26 AM  

The anti-Trump violence is the dawn of the extremist liberal Kristallnacht. Yes, its not just against Jews as the Nazis did, but its a form of violent intimidation of your enemies - and Vox is right that it will get worse and liberals decide violence and intimidation are good and acceptable against your enemies.

Blogger SteelPalm January 25, 2017 7:30 AM  

I find the Leftist's suddenly open embrace of terrorism and political violence to be endlessly funny at the same time I realize it portends an awful, bloody future.

Do these frail feminists and transgenders REALLY think they can survive a violent environment like the one they're helping create, regardless of which side wins?

Do they think they can protect themselves? Who do they anticipate saving/protecting them?!

These lemmings can't even think half a step ahead.

Anonymous Rocklea January 25, 2017 7:32 AM  

The Magic Dirt in Australia is apparently still functional and possibly transferable if you need a loan. The 2017 Australian Of The Year nominees have been announced and some were even born here. My favourite would have to be Deng Adut. He's a former Child soldier from Sudan, now turned criminal lawyer who works tirelessly for the Sudanese community in wait for it... Blacktown NSW AUSTRALIA. Perhaps he brought the dirt with him.

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2017 7:34 AM  

It is easy now, while reading the comments on the article, to identify those who cannot be taught.

only the Alt-Right has the conceptual model to predict and make sense of these events

Some lefties are beginning to clue in (but not the politicos). English musician Brian Eno recently stated:

My feeling about Brexit was not anger at anybody else, it was anger at myself for not realising what was going on. I thought that all those Ukip people and those National Fronty people were in a little bubble. Then I thought: ‘Fuck, it was us, we were in the bubble, we didn’t notice it.’ There was a revolution brewing and we didn’t spot it because we didn’t make it. We expected we were going to be the revolution.”

Blogger Kona Commuter January 25, 2017 7:35 AM  

My local government is holding a multicultural festival in lieu of Australia Day.


I firmly believe that men should, if they are not already doing so, be getting fit and strong ASAP. I read the comments at the link and whilst everyone is tough on the internet I believe that things are going to come to head sooner rather than later

Blogger Kona Commuter January 25, 2017 7:36 AM  

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/malcolm-turnbull-calls-out-racial-and-religious-discrimination-after-recent-poll-on-muslims/ar-BBxdUuq?li=AA4RE4&ocid=spartanntp

"Mr Shorten also noted the level of diversity in Parliament, saying that all but five politicians "are exclusively migrants or the descendants of migrants"."

Blogger Stilicho January 25, 2017 7:44 AM  

@steelpalm they do think they will survive it because they think it will be one-sided and without repercussions or consequences-- the way it has been all of their lives. They think... poorly.

Anonymous L.S. January 25, 2017 7:59 AM  

Kona Commuter said:

"I firmly believe that men should, if they are not already doing so, be getting fit and strong ASAP. I read the comments at the link and whilst everyone is tough on the internet I believe that things are going to come to head sooner rather than later."

Agreed. As I've said before, 5x5 stronglifts, or Starting Strength. All fitness starts with strength. Convict Conditioning and The Naked Warrior, if you're a bodyweight guy..

Rory Miller, and Marc MacYoung. These two will teach you what violence REALLY is, and how to both avoid, and prepare for it.

Sykes and Fairborne- they were the first, and probably STILL the best, instinctive shooting trainers.

Get started shooting. Get coaching, and practice what you learn. Dry fire, and do holster drills. (See Sykes and Fairborne, above.) Do adrenaline drills- your heart should be pounding when you practice-
and do retention, as well as off hand training too.

And get your CCW.

We ARE at war, whether we want it or not.
Next time someone gets Spencered, it'll be with a knife or a gun.

And that next time might be you, or your family.

Anonymous Rocklea January 25, 2017 8:03 AM  

Trump's in the zone, K selection is coming and he's riding the crest of a wave. I'd be surprised if he wasn't aware of it. He may want to be a civic nationalist, but he truly will be the God Emperor if he can pull that off.

Blogger Casher O'Neill January 25, 2017 8:04 AM  

Does anyone know when the English became the Saxon?

http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_beginnings.htm

Blogger Cail Corishev January 25, 2017 8:08 AM  

The new ability to cheaply learn your genetic ancestry may help speed things along. It's becoming a trope for some white person who has always cherished the idea that he's part-ethnic, to send off his DNA and find out nope, just plain boring white person. That's going to change how much of a bond they can feel, when they know there's no secret kinship after all.

Anonymous Mark Auld January 25, 2017 8:13 AM  

"They"are acting as if bummer was still in charge and would bring the power of the state to their side in the fight...wrong and wrongly.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2017 8:16 AM  

> And get your CCW.

If you live in one of those benighted areas where they're still required, yes.

> Does anyone know when the English became the Saxon?

They were Saxon before they were English. The Saxons were there when the Normans invaded. The Normans are the Anglo part of Anglo-Saxon.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 25, 2017 8:25 AM  

14. James Dixon January 25, 2017 8:16 AM
They were Saxon before they were English.



that's not what he's asking.

the original Kipling poem is called "When the English began to hate".

he's asking when ( and who ) changed "English" to "Saxon". 'why' would also be useful to know, although we can probably infer that if we answer the first two questions.

Blogger Casher O'Neill January 25, 2017 8:26 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> Does anyone know when the English became the Saxon?

They were Saxon before they were English. The Saxons were there when the Normans invaded. The Normans are the Anglo part of Anglo-Saxon.


I was referring to the poem that Vox alluded to(I provided a link).

It is "The English" in A Diversity of Creatures where it was apparently first published.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 25, 2017 8:32 AM  

The Angles preceded the Saxons. They came from near Juteland.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy January 25, 2017 8:39 AM  

bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) wrote:the original Kipling poem is called "When the English began to hate".

he's asking when ( and who ) changed "English" to "Saxon".

The original title was “The Beginnings”. The version that contains “Saxon” is also retitled to “The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon”; that's probably a better clue as to who did it.

Blogger N Matheson January 25, 2017 8:43 AM  

# 17
As Dirk says the Angles were a separate tribe from the Saxons. Nearly all the Angles moved to England (and Southern Scotland) while many Saxons stayed on the mainland. Jutes also colonised parts of the UK.
Find Stephen Pollington for more or check out any of the excellent "Anglo Saxon" books.

Rory Miller, good choice, Tony Blauer, Fairbairns, Richard Grannon is also excellent but is coming from a UK perspective.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 8:50 AM  

"The Normans are the Anglo part of Anglo-Saxon."

Although some of the Normans started out a bit Angled, the English were Anglish before they were Norman. The Saxons came from the lower part of Jutland, the Angles from the upper part, each staking out territory in Britain during the same rough period.

Blame the Danes.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2017 8:51 AM  

The Left is resurrecting their 1960's strategies much like we're told armies often train to fight the last war.

When NYC lost power in 1977 and in 2003 the results were polar opposites. '77 was a bear market (negative social mood), '03 was a rising tide and still close enough to the peak (positive social mood.)

When (not if) the Left dusts off the "Riot 'til they capitulate" model, what will likely occur is that they'll drive Middle America dramatically to the RIGHT, and public consent will favor crushing the protests and protesters.

Leftists sincerely believe if they can destroy Trump's administration (e.g., if the debt-volcano erupts on his watch or if they can disrupt commerce) that they'll get "their" gal or guy back in charge.

They simply aren't wired to grasp that something fundamental shifted these past 17 years, and that what's coming will invert the product of their efforts.

Regardless of how Trump's administration performs, what comes after him will almost certainly go FURTHER right, not back to the left.

Blogger Gaiseric January 25, 2017 8:53 AM  

James Dixon wrote:They were Saxon before they were English. The Saxons were there when the Normans invaded. The Normans are the Anglo part of Anglo-Saxon.
Normans have nothing to do with the Angles. The Angles were a tribe from Jutland who were neighbors to the Saxons, who spoke a similar dialect, and who basically saw themselves as the same people as the Saxons—hence the adjective Anglo-Saxon, which was the former label for Old English, which refers to the period BEFORE the Normans arrived. The Normans were french-fried former Vikings from Normandy.

It is curious that the Kipling poem had English changed to Saxon and the title changed. I can't seem to find anything at all about who did it or why. It's also curious that it changes very little, of course, of the meaning or intent of the work.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 25, 2017 8:55 AM  

A poster is worth a thousand rationalization:


Translation: We hate White people. (((Nothing new there)))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C294_K0WIAA46Ek.jpg:large


Make the West Great again.

Anonymous Roundtine January 25, 2017 9:07 AM  

Nobody expects the Jute uprising!

Blogger Avalanche January 25, 2017 9:07 AM  

@9 "Rory Miller, and Marc MacYoung. These two will teach you what violence REALLY is, and how to both avoid, and prepare for it."

Second, third, and fourth this!

Yes, it's education, not training (thanks, Mas Ayoob, for the distinction) but the mental prep is also fundamental!

Blogger Hacker January 25, 2017 9:09 AM  

I have Dupuytren's contracture on my left hand so I know I am descende from Vikings.

Anonymous Michael Maier January 25, 2017 9:11 AM  

@Baseball Savant:

Don't know where you are, but Indianapolis is swamped with foreigners of all kinds. In all sides of town I feel like I minority in public.

INDIANAPOLIS. The "Hick City". (And a nice religion of pieces terror training center just outside of it.)

Yeah. When it comes, it's going to be very ugly.

Blogger Johnny January 25, 2017 9:16 AM  

When (not if) the Left dusts off the "Riot 'til they capitulate" model, what will likely occur is that they'll drive Middle America dramatically to the RIGHT, and public consent will favor crushing the protests and protesters.

Yeah. They lack imagination and are behind the times with some consistency. Trying to project fear of the USSR on to Russia is another example of this. Hardly progressive Progressives.

Considering the kind of person Trump is, it being a major campaign promise, and he may not even need congress to do it, building the wall is a dun deal.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 9:19 AM  

" . . . it's education, not training (thanks, Mas Ayoob, for the distinction) . . ."

Practice and rehearsal are also two distinct things. You practice fundamental skills, like how to throw a punch or squeeze a trigger. You rehearse the application of those skills applied to a scenario.

Anonymous Philipp January 25, 2017 9:23 AM  

Today in my local paper I read that in my village, at the station late night, a 25 year old man attacked a 19 year old woman and sexually assaulted her.

The man is from Sudan.

There is no magic dirt. There are no multi-racial societies that work. There will be war.

Anonymous Casey January 25, 2017 9:23 AM  

Most of the Antifa wannabees I see are emotionally immature shallow people who think that their activities are a game.

Even so, they seem to understand that it's not a good idea to bring their violence into the heartland of America.

Nobody that I know is hoping that it comes here, but they're certainly ready if it does.

It would be bad. I hope the officials can get a handle on it before it comes to that.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt January 25, 2017 9:28 AM  

I didn't know that "Saxon" wasn't the original word. Maybe Kipling revised it himself. "Saxon" is better for recitation purposes; "the English" reads awkwardly aloud, because of the 2 "e"s next to each other. "The Saxon" flows beautifully.

Blogger Felix Bellator January 25, 2017 9:28 AM  

"The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." - Kosh, Babylon 5

Blogger Robert Divinity January 25, 2017 9:31 AM  

Round Two is fully here. The violence directed against Trump supporters and voters was a significant ratchet upwards. The Left, still dazed that white America has struck back and is getting more radicalized daily, will become even more violent...and remain in shock as the European Americans continue to fight back. The cold civil war heated up while the numbers still favored white people. I don't claim to know what will happen but what is happening now is readily apparent.

I suspect we'll have the first full-blown skirmishes when ICE descends on sanctuary cities or attempts are made to disrupt construction of The Wall. We need to stay focused on the white leftists. They enjoy participation in the violence but the non-white communists don't trust them. We've seen the snowflakes frozen out of participation more than a few times (thank you, Black Lives Matter, etc.). Infrequently they have been targeted along with the normies. White identity will be forced on them. While the white left-wingers never will be allies, they will be neutralized rather soon.

Blogger Casher O'Neill January 25, 2017 9:35 AM  

Gaiseric wrote:It is curious that the Kipling poem had English changed to Saxon and the title changed. I can't seem to find anything at all about who did it or why. It's also curious that it changes very little, of course, of the meaning or intent of the work.

Wanda Sherratt wrote:I didn't know that "Saxon" wasn't the original word. Maybe Kipling revised it himself. "Saxon" is better for recitation purposes; "the English" reads awkwardly aloud, because of the 2 "e"s next to each other. "The Saxon" flows beautifully.

I crowdsourced that here because I couldn't find anything on it myself. Since I haven't seen any book versions of the Saxon (not that I've looked that hard), my impression is that some anonymous internet guy rewrote it because barbarian "Saxons" sound more-universal-in-appeal and tougher than a bunch of tea-drinking limeys. The latter actually works better with the spirit of the poem in my opinion. I'm guessing that once it caught on the new version got re-attributed to Kipling.

Anonymous BBGKB January 25, 2017 9:35 AM  

Do these frail feminists and transgenders REALLY think they can survive a violent environment like the one they're helping create, regardless of which side wins?

They think the low IQ savage cowardly moslems will attack armed white Christians instead of easy targets like gay bars.

Do they think they can protect themselves? Who do they anticipate saving/protecting them?!

If they don't eat lions then lions won't eat them. They are happy to have taxpayers pay jizya

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 9:36 AM  

"White identity will be forced on them."

Some of the pebbles are going to be very surprised that they don't even get to vote on which side they are on.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2017 9:37 AM  

Where I live there was always a "bad side of town," populated by derelict buildings and derelict people. For three decades they largely stayed in their ghetto when producing corpses.

Now, their shootings, robberies and home invasions are spilling out in concentric circles around that ghetto. Something fundamental has changed. It may be that it's the same clowns (drug dealers, gang members, etc.) hunting their usual adversaries on new turf, but the mayhem is now close enough that Middle Class people are awakening to the music of magazine dumps.

Re: training. Realistic training for H2H comes with real injuries (ask Rory Miller, who required knee surgery from an injury sustained in training) and convalescing from injury is hardly a safe state in which to enter a period of greater danger. Trade-offs abound.

Blogger William Meisheid January 25, 2017 9:40 AM  

Felix Bellator: "The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." - Kosh, Babylon 5

Such a great line about the point of no return.

Anonymous ENthePeasant January 25, 2017 9:46 AM  

"The Left mistakes our forbearance, patience and, yes, tolerance for weakness, because they are none of those things, and utterly fail to comprehend us. But they should not poke in the eye too many times millions of people who make a hobby out of going into the woods and shooting and gutting 200 lb. mammals. Seriously, they shouldn’t." Matt Bracken

Blogger GracieLou January 25, 2017 9:49 AM  

Watched a video on Twitter yesterday of a man punching some Antifa who were blocking an intersection. He looked like your average millennial marshmallow guy but cold-cocked a girl. You know there has to be monstrous amounts of pent up frustration in that generation. Millennials won Florida for Trump.

Another thing about that video, the Antifa gang, if you listen to them, they're little kids play-acting, like cowboys and Indians. God help me, I felt sorry for them; they don't have a clue.

Also, on rhetoric. We could turn "deplorables" and "fake news" because Trump supporters are clearly not deplorable and "real" news is fake. All those women trying to de-fang "nasty woman" are only cementing the idea. You see a skank in a vagina costume with nasty woman written on her cheeks and you're like, yeah exactly. Total rhetoric fail.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 25, 2017 9:58 AM  

There will be no warning when the Poseidon Adventure begins in earnest. Warning Leftists (or threatening them) is counter-productive (and we all know it.)

I imagine myself asking someone if I look like someone they really want to antagonize. Then I realize they just can't grasp the situation, in AC's words, they lack the amygdala development. They would slap a man open-carrying like a savage counting coup might literally finger-poke a Brown Bear.

Their Timothy Treadwell/Amy Biehl/David Ruenzel days are coming, the latter two via the "pets" they use as sacred totems.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 25, 2017 10:00 AM  

41:

He looked like your average millennial marshmallow guy but cold-cocked a girl. You know there has to be monstrous amounts of pent up frustration in that generation. Millennials won Florida for Trump.

The Millenials who aren't expendible communist pawns--the vast majority--are filled with pent-up rage. They are a cause for hope.

Unrelated but fun: the Fox cucks appear ready to cry as border security and immigration enforcement becomes reality.

Anonymous Bob January 25, 2017 10:01 AM  

The thought entered my mind is that all this "Nazi" stuff is the Jews playing their last and final card in the holocaust game, the Semite getting their last ounce of white guilt squeezed out.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 25, 2017 10:01 AM  

What has changed is this:

In the 60's the WWII vets i dulged their petulant brats, while Generation X watched all of it play out in abject disgust since the time before we were even in kindergarten.

Generation X will sooner die fighting than to allow the hundreds of bombings/year of the early 70's to go unpunished against the ENTIRETY of the movement responsible for stirri g up violence again.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 25, 2017 10:06 AM  

Don't know where you are, but Indianapolis is swamped with foreigners of all kinds.

They made a big mistake when they started dumping "refugees" into the heartland. It not only gave many whites their first experience with non-whites to counters the happy TV portrayal; it also warned whites that moving to a neighborhood with "good schools" won't be allowed anymore. Move to a Norman Rockwell town, and they might yank it right out from under you.

Had they kept them on the coasts and in the cities, they might have been able to keep the Nice White People in flyover country clueless a lot longer.

Blogger James Higham January 25, 2017 10:14 AM  

I'm getting a most positive feeling - the mood is changing, women are rising in droves to write scathing pieces about the snowflakes, the Donald is playing a great inside game with the left, Europe is about to fall to populism - it's looking immensely reassuring. Fight to the death - yes - but still reassuring.

Anonymous BBGKB January 25, 2017 10:15 AM  

Antifa who were blocking an intersection. He looked like your average millennial marshmallow guy but cold-cocked a girl.

He beat up more than just the "girl" and it didn't look like a girl.

Blogger Antony January 25, 2017 10:40 AM  

Mention has been made of various self-protection measures, Rory Miller and Marc "Animal" McYoung are good, another good one to check out is Lee Morrisson's "Urban Combatives", and Kelly McCann.s "Kembatives" classes and vids on youtube etc, both the latter have trained SF ; https://www.facebook.com/groups/urbancombatives/

OpenID elijahrhodes January 25, 2017 10:42 AM  

If you are on the right and you are not actively preparing for the coming violence then you are going to become a casualty. What does preparing mean? It means significantly more than buying a handgun and learning to put holes in a paper target. There are many aspects to being prepared, from provisioning and planning to strategy, mindset and tactics.

I also suggest that if you struggle to do a couple pushups, or you've never been in a real fight or felt what it's like to be punched in the face or dominated by a bigger, stronger man, or if you've never felt your heart ready to explode from exertion and had to force yourself to keep going, then you have a lot of work to do.

As Vox has said: It's time to get hard.

Anonymous Baseball Savant January 25, 2017 10:49 AM  

@Michael Maier

I'm in Indy. It's ridiculous. We live in Wanamaker so we are somewhat isolate, but we never do anything actually inside Indianapolis. If anything we wind up in Greenwood, but never actually in Indianapolis. I go to a gym in Southport and that's bad enough.

Blogger Joseph January 25, 2017 10:50 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:They made a big mistake when they started dumping "refugees" into the heartland.

I am almost starting to believe in the whole "Obama as the right wing sleeper agent" line of thinking. His destruction of the Democrat's hold on power, greatest gun salesman in history, and the above point as well.

Blogger tz January 25, 2017 10:58 AM  

But, can't just handing out pocket constitutions to the antifas and pussyhats fix everything?
I think "pussyhat" might become the next "mangina".
The left has been content to use coercion like Brendan Eich and Sweet Cakes, but at the bottom is the threat of violence.

Since "racist" has lost its power, they now say "Nazi". Spencer isn't one but the next version of the meme will feature dead Nazis along with a dead alt-west member (we're all Nazis now).

The cold civil war is becoming hot.

It will be more interesting in places like Silicon Valley - Whites and Christians should move to safer spaces. I don't say that because I want it, but because the left is going to get violent.

They forget that communist thuggery in Germany begat the actual Nazis. The new left's version isn't creating Nazis but the allies against Stalin.

Anonymous BBGKB January 25, 2017 11:06 AM  

I am almost starting to believe in the whole "Obama as the right wing sleeper agent" line of thinking.

No they just drank too much of their own free kool aid. Those that didn't figured they would punish whitey by profiting from the changes in real estate value.

OT: Speaking of fair game: Oy Vey, Ohio divorce lawyer uses hypnotism to sexually assault clients during billable hours. https://www.yahoo.com/news/creep-lawyer-accused-using-hypnosis-215100573.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/creep-lawyer-accused-using-hypnosis-215100573.html

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis January 25, 2017 11:18 AM  

Check out the PS90. It is the civilian version of the P90. 50 round magazine. You can get the SBR version by paying the federal tax stamp. See: https://infogalactic.com/info/FN_P90#Variants

Anonymous Vin January 25, 2017 11:28 AM  

To his credit, Cenk of the Young Turks expressed similar disapproval of the Punch A Nazi theme on a recent broadcast. Not a surprise, he also spoke out about attacksvon Trump supporters & was one of the few on the Left that warned that Trump had good chance of winning during the general election.

The Left does have a few sane (relatively) voices but not many.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 25, 2017 11:36 AM  

I believe that VD and a number of us stated long ago (before Trump's winning the nomination) that a Trump win would merely be a grace to buy those who are just starting to awaken to reality some time to prepare for what is really coming. Trump (who has been very impressive) will not restore the country once known as the United States to its pre-1965 status. He has the deep-state and both party establishments working against him, not to mention the elite who still control the institutions. (((Griswold))) either demonstrates a level of idiocy and historical illiteracy that is all too typical of even the smarter believers in magic-dirt, sacred constitutions, melting pots, and the Judeo Christ or he's deliberately lying. Communists have been even more willing to kill than the German National Socialists. Who's he trying to fool? The left, whether BLM or Soros-paid antifas, have never hesitated to use violence and have already been waging a one-sided war against whites. Spencer is no Nazi and it was his belief in some sort of shadow of one or more of the above myths which left him open to the attack - which likely would not have happened with someone more aware of the enemy and what they are capable of.

Blogger GracieLou January 25, 2017 11:45 AM  

"He beat up more than just the "girl" and it didn't look like a girl."

That's true. I had to watch three, four times to tell. One of them said, "You hit a girl!" which was very patriarchal of him really.

Marshmallow Millennial held her to her own standards, no mansplaining.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 25, 2017 11:57 AM  

@57:

Additionally, the early days of the grace period have shown how vulnerable the entrenched Deep State is to disruption. It's probably safe to assume the Deep State is learning at least as much as we are, though. It's still nice to see so many glass jaws protect the Banana Empire.

Blogger Marsh January 25, 2017 12:02 PM  

I'm hoping that President Trump will bring back law and order and then these thugs will feel the pain of the law. Let's not forget the left had a free reign under Obama. It looks like he's going to punish the rioters from inauguration night w/ the full extent of the law.

Anonymous Baseball Savant January 25, 2017 12:07 PM  

The left, whether BLM or Soros-paid antifas, have never hesitated to use violence and have already been waging a one-sided war against whites.

Certain kinds of whites. As VD pointed out once, I don't think anyone is gearing up to take a punch at him. Hitting Richard Spencer is one thing. But hitting Vox or Baseball Savant is going to be an entirely different matter. You might hit me. That's fine. But I'll hit you too. We'll see which one knocks the other down.

The BLM or Soros guys can cherry pick for now. At some point they won't be able to.

Blogger tz January 25, 2017 12:08 PM  

No one has mentioned all the broken glass the night of the Deploraball - Kristallnacht anyone?

Blogger Antony January 25, 2017 12:08 PM  

Further to my earlier post on self protection, another couple of sites you may like to check out are the Libre Fighting ones ; https://www.facebook.com/pg/edsmanifesto/posts/?ref=page_internal
and ; https://www.facebook.com/pg/Libre-Fighting-110491305646163/posts/?ref=page_internal

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2017 12:11 PM  

corrections to my statements about the Saxons noted and hopefully remembered.

However it seems likely to me that Kipling made the change himself. See his other poem dealing with the differences between the Normans and the Saxons:

http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/norman_and_saxon.html

OpenID elijahrhodes January 25, 2017 12:17 PM  

Re: training. Realistic training for H2H comes with real injuries (ask Rory Miller, who required knee surgery from an injury sustained in training) and convalescing from injury is hardly a safe state in which to enter a period of greater danger. Trade-offs abound.

You're not actually making the case that someone untrained in H2H will fare better than someone trained but injured? Because that's just silly. Look, I like Rory Miller and have read his books, but honestly, you're much better off joining a kickboxing/bjj gym. Real capability comes from consistent, long-term training. Taking the occasional seminar, as enjoyable as it may be, will not prepare you in any significant way. You can't shortcut it. The reality is it takes a long time and a lot of practice to become skilled at any martial art. And yes, I also consider gun skills to be a martial art.


Check out the PS90. It is the civilian version of the P90. 50 round magazine. You can get the SBR version by paying the federal tax stamp

The ballistics are shitty, ammo is hard to find, and the platoform is uncommon. I'll stick with the AR-15. They are ubiquitous, ammo and parts are plentiful, you can configure it endlessly, guys know how to mill them in their garage, and converting one to full auto is trivial if it comes to that. I don't love the ballistics of the 5.57, but all other things considered, it will get the job done.

OpenID notebuyer January 25, 2017 12:42 PM  

When they changed the rules to "it's ok to hit/shoot Nazis" they gave permission for us to treat that as fighting words and hit first. Hit, then loudly criticize the one calling you a Nazi for doing so. Result? a lot of witnesses who see you in the right.

Anonymous Anonymous January 25, 2017 12:59 PM  

>their own 200-year failure to successfully integrate Africans

Half a century of rule by Democrat poverty pimps, condescending institutional favoritism and encouraged victim mentality, cultural corruption courtesy of the (((recording industry))), and now monied (((interests))) purposefully weaponizing them into a communist insurgency to destablize the country might have something to do with it. I'm hesitant to attribute what's going on to African genetics and desegration.

>And that's when the responsive violence begins, and the Saxon begins to hate.

Its natural to not like minorities that are being used as a weapon against you. Please gives some thought to who is really working to turn race relations to shit in this country and why.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 1:01 PM  

"I don't love the ballistics of the 5.57, but all other things considered, it will get the job done."

Especially for the zombie poodle apocalypse, but the 7.62x51R might do just as well, or better.

OpenID elijahrhodes January 25, 2017 1:14 PM  

the 7.62x51R might do just as well, or better.

Much better, without a doubt, especially at distance, but it comes with a significant weight/mag capacity penalty. Not practical as an urban tactical gun. Now if you want to pick off a bad guy at 500 yards, I'll take the 7.62x51/.308 over a 5.56x45 any day of the week.

Blogger Boko Harambe January 25, 2017 1:15 PM  

@ 5 pride goeth before a fall

Blogger Boko Harambe January 25, 2017 1:21 PM  

@ 9 there are excellent free apps for your phone for these programs if you're the app type.

Ample free info on the web. Jim Wendlers books on his 5/3/1 program are excellent but you don't have to buy them, he's written extensively about it for free.

Dan John's blog is also indispensable if you're looking to get strong - after all, he wrote Starting Strength.

Don't get too bogged down in specifics. Pick a simple program, push play, and go. I will add that you should consider HIIT training two to three days a week. You have to have stamina in a fight, and sometimes, you have to run and live to fight another day. So run, or row, or hike with a weighted vest, whatever. Moving quick is great, but you need endurance too.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 1:22 PM  

@68:

7.62x51Rimmed is French for "thirty thirty."

Blogger praetorian January 25, 2017 1:30 PM  

I'm sorry, but violence against Nazis is justified. After all, Commies, er, Nazis explicitly advocate violence and, therefore, must be shut down by any means necessary. Commies, er, Nazis I mean, killed 100 million people and therefore CANNOT be given a platform, or allowed to be normalized. Literally Commi-er-Nazis cannot be reasoned with, they can only be stopped. This is existential: the commies would have us and our children killed.

So, you see, violence against Commies is justified.

Blogger praetorian January 25, 2017 1:32 PM  

And the idea that magic interracial relationships are somehow going to make this transformation possible is exceptionally stupid. All the television shows and broadcast commercials notwithstanding, there is probably not much more interracial procreation taking place now than there was prior to the 20th century

If race mixing worked, south america would be the stable, prosperous leader of the free world.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 1:34 PM  

Violence is Golden

Blogger PoseidonAwoke January 25, 2017 1:44 PM  

Can someone tell me what VD meant by 'Round One' and 'Round Two'?

Anonymous Fran January 25, 2017 2:17 PM  

@75
He is referring to American Civil war.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 2:18 PM  

The end of Round One:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/11/14/opinion/14disunion-img/14disunion-img-blog480.jpg

The beginning of Round Two:

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20140823_USP001_1.jpg

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 2:46 PM  

@1 Baseball Savant
There are more than a few 6'0/260lbs white guys who are strong as ox hoping for violence. It's interesting.
--

Befriend these gentle giants

Blogger Were-Puppy January 25, 2017 3:24 PM  

@41 GracieLou
Also, on rhetoric. We could turn "deplorables" and "fake news" because Trump supporters are clearly not deplorable and "real" news is fake. All those women trying to de-fang "nasty woman" are only cementing the idea. You see a skank in a vagina costume with nasty woman written on her cheeks and you're like, yeah exactly. Total rhetoric fail.
--

it is a rhetoric fail. And there are dumb lefties on twitter trying to equate the nasty woman same as hillary calling us deplorables with useless pseudo-dialectic. It's not working.

OpenID elijahrhodes January 25, 2017 3:50 PM  

7.62x51Rimmed is French for "thirty thirty."

You learn something new every day. I assumed that anything in a 7.62x51 was a Win .308. Looks like there are a few variants in that family.

Anonymous BBGKB January 25, 2017 3:50 PM  

The ballistics are shitty, ammo is hard to find, and the platoform is uncommon. I'll stick with the AR-15. They are ubiquitous,

You don't want to be the only one in your county ordering 5.7 rounds from Belgium when blue helmets get hit with them.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2017 3:58 PM  

> I'll take the 7.62x51/.308

The .308 is a great round/rifle, but I'm still partial to the .30-06.

Blogger GracieLou January 25, 2017 4:38 PM  

@79 Rhetoric fail:

They're badly outgunned. They've been asleep these last eight years, and all that time Charlie's in the bush gettin' stronger.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 4:52 PM  

"I assumed that anything in a 7.62x51 was a Win .308."

Well, yes, here's the thing - the .30-.30 is a Win .308, with a rimmed cartridge and a 30 grain load.

And while it doesn't hold much mall ninja cache, the 1894 is still a very good "street sweeper" and forest ninja arm, where things happen at relatively close range. Downside, while it's a cartridge in good supply, you won't be scavenging much of it from the Blue Helmets and firing from prone is, as the kids these days say, "problematic."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 5:25 PM  

re: Saxons
The original population of the island of Britain was various Celtic tribes, including the Picts, Iceni, Pretanni, Cornubii, Dubonnii, etc. When the Romans conquered Gaul, some of the more anti-Roman Gauls relocated to Britain.
When the Romans arrived in Britain, they had a hard slog of at first, until the economic advantages of the Roman villa system gave them a structural advantage in recruitment and logistics, and eventually most of the Celtic tribes adopted the Roman way of life, and are referred to as Roman-British.
The Romans were never able to extend their conquest into Wales or Scotland (Scotland means Pirateland, which would make a great theme park), so those areas retained their traditional way of life.
After the Roman armies left, there was a period of great social dislocation, in which many of attributes of civilization were lost. The Latin language virtually disappeared, except among the Catholic priesthood, which was quite small. Vast areas of the country lost even the knowledge of how to make useful pottery.
At the same time, the Huns were moving into Central Europe, displacing many Germanic tribes. Two of them , the Jutes and the Angles relocated more or less entirely to Britain. Another tribe, the Saxons also sent a large number of people.
With advanced military tactics and better social organization than the Celto-Romano-British farmers and landowners, they more or less took the place of of the Roman Army. They formed an overclass of interrelated families that became the nobility of Anglo-Saxon England, ruling the Celtic underclasses. They also, unlike the Romans, imposed their language on the country, the combination of Germanic words with Celtic grammar eventually becoming English. Like the Romans, they ignored Wales and the highlands of Scotland, as not being worth conquering.
Eventually the Vikings arrived, conquering the lowlands and islands of the east of Scotland and most of eastern England. After hundreds of years of raids and wars between various Anglo-Saxons and Danish kings, another Germanic king, William, arrived with his Norman army. The Normans were essentially Vikings who had settled in northern France and adopted French as their language. They were closely related to the Danes who were more-or-less dominant in England at the time, and intermarried with Anglo-Saxon nobility.
When William arrived, he dispossessed both the Anglo-Saxon and Danish nobles, placing his own people in charge of their estates and foeffs. He regularized property ownership (the Domesday Book). and began a building program of fortresses designed to provide protection from invasion by foreign armies.
So the term Anglo-Saxon (or just Saxon) absorbed the Danes, the Jutes, the Vikings, etc and came to mean the ordinary people of England, the tenant farmers, tradespeople, and servants, as opposed to the Norman upper class. Genetically, there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two, and there are no genetic markers that can be used to distinguish between them, but we all know that identity trumps politics.
This usage was used for political effect in the Regency through Victorian eras with the rise of Parliamentary politics and universal suffrage. Which is what Kipling was writing about, the resentment of the farmers over the Enclosure acts that forced them out of land that had been the home of their people from prehistory, the resentment of factory workers and miners of their exploitation by rich capitalists, and the resentment of a people impoverished by changes in the economic and social systems.
And now, resentment of the ordinary people over their replacement in the land of their fathers and grandfathers by a different people.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 25, 2017 5:27 PM  

James Dixon wrote:The .308 is a great round/rifle, but I'm still partial to the .30-06.

I love the Garand and the 30-06, but I'm spending more and more time with my FAL in .308.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 5:44 PM  

kfg wrote:And while it doesn't hold much mall ninja cache, the 1894 is still a very good "street sweeper" and forest ninja arm, where things happen at relatively close range. Downside, while it's a cartridge in good supply, you won't be scavenging much of it from the Blue Helmets and firing from prone is, as the kids these days say, "problematic."
With the introduction of spitzer profiled polymer tipped .30-30 a few years ago, the accuracy has improved greatly out to 300 yds or so. Cycling while prone is indeed slow and difficult, but kneeling it's fine, better, IMO than bolt-action. Andy anybody who ever watched "The Rifleman" with Chuck Connors knows that it's easily the fastest non-semiauto action.
The real problem is reloading. It takes 1-3 seconds per round, depending on practice, and there's no fastloader or stripper clip equivalent, that I'm aware of, anyway. And with only 8 rounds, you're not really in the street sweeper category.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 5:50 PM  

"They were closely related to the Danes . . ."

Jutelanders once removed, from the island of Zeeland. They won the family squabble in the homeland and so Copenhagen became the capital and they all merged into Danes, just as in their British colonies they all eventually merged into English.

Although from here it just looks like a bunch of Germans fighting amongst themselves while making trouble for everybody else.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 5:58 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:I love the Garand and the 30-06, but I'm spending more and more time with my FAL in .308.
My favorite gun is my war prize K-98 rechambered in .30-06. Not quite "Shoot a flea off a dog's back at 500 yards", but far more accurate than I am, and I can hit a paper plate at 200 yards with just the iron sights with it.
I do find I'm spending more time with handguns lately, which never interested me before. Ever since the wife got her CCW.

Anonymous kfg January 25, 2017 6:01 PM  

" . . . there's no fastloader or stripper clip equivalent . . ."

On the other hand, you don't have to automatically triple tap to make sure you're getting the job done and you can add a round or three to the magazine anytime you get the breathing space.

Pluses and minuses. Ya pays yer money, ya takes yer choice, and no matter what you do in some situation the choice will turn out to be the wrong one.

"anybody who ever watched "The Rifleman" with Chuck Connors knows that it's easily the fastest non-semiauto action."

To be fair, his was "tuned" a might.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 25, 2017 6:03 PM  

kfg wrote:Although from here it just looks like a bunch of Germans fighting amongst themselves while making trouble for everybody else.
As serviceable a description of English history as I've ever heard.

Blogger Bob Loblaw January 25, 2017 6:08 PM  

> And get your CCW.

If you live in one of those benighted areas where they're still required, yes.


Where I live in Commiefornia they're both required and impossible to get unless you're doing security for someone important. Unless there's a complete breakdown of social order it's not going to be easy to discern the point at which you're safer carrying illegally than not carrying.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 25, 2017 6:18 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:... I can hit a paper plate at 200 yards with just the iron sights with it.

Your eyes must be younger than mine. Even with the very decent peep sights on the Garand, I'm hard pressed to see the paper plate at 200 yards, let alone hit it.

A Leupold 1-4 power on the FAL helps a great deal with that.

Blogger The Aardvark January 25, 2017 6:43 PM  

"William F. Buckley was a crypto-fascist as I recall."

Well, he WAS called a crypto-Nazi once....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

Anonymous Ain January 25, 2017 6:52 PM  

I still believe they're intentionally trying to instigate a race war. If it happens while Trump is in office, they will naturally blame it all on him, but it's main purpose will be to (try to) grab guns.

Anonymous Soylent_Green January 25, 2017 7:02 PM  

KFC & Snidely: Actually, you can make a speedloader for lever action rifles. I've seen them used at Appleseed shoots and they do with practice: http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/rubiconspeedloader.htm They aren't easy to carry, but one gent was using an arrow quiver to carry several.

Another solution is using speed loader strips from Bianchi: http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/gun-accessories/speed-loaders-and-trays/revolver/speed-strips---pair-10851.html These aren't as quick, but much easier to carry.


Blogger Jose January 26, 2017 12:07 AM  

I'm a little confused, so perhaps someone can explain: are there really, in America in 2017, card-carrying members of the National Socialist Worker's Party of Germany, dedicating their life to the pursuit of The Thousand-Year Reich (under German authority), having personally sworn loyalty to Adolf Hitler or Herman Göering?

Inquiring minds wish to know...

(I currently self-identify as Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1915; my pronouns are Stahl und Feuer; correctly address me as "Herrscher von ganz Europa.")

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Blogger Thucydides January 27, 2017 11:34 PM  

Civil War Two can be quickly and easily over and done with if/when the "Blue" city infrastructure is crippled and the roads blocked. Really, that is about all it will take. As Jerry Pournelle once said, American cities are only there days away from rioting (that being roughy the on hand supply of food and potable water).

The various "identity" groups will be savagely fighting it out among themselves for what food and water is available, and the collateral casualties and damage will be staggering. I'm sure the special snowflakes, bureaucrats and "educators" will be very astonished as they are being dragged out of their homes for rape and mutilation, wondering all the while how this could have happened: *they* were supposed to be the ones in charge....

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