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Monday, January 02, 2017

Immigration is invasion

In There Will Be War Vol. X, Martin van Creveld demonstrated that immigration is war is immigration. The idea that because immigrants are unarmed, they are not invaders is more than simply false, at this point it is observably a lie. National borders are simply being overrun and nations are being conquered; the fact that neither guns are swords are being used is irrelevant:
RIOT police fought running battles with a mob of more than a thousand migrants who tried to storm Europe's borders and force their way into the Spanish enclave of Ceuta today. At least 1,100 asylum seekers rushed the barbed wire fence protecting the tiny north African enclave, which is surrounded on all sides by Morocco, in a desperate bid to reach the EU.

Spanish and Moroccan authorities desperately fought to restore order as the migrants, most from sub-Saharan Africa, scaled the border barrier and brawled with police. Once inside the miniscule Spanish territory they would be able to claim asylum in Spain or travel onwards towards the promised lands of Germany and Sweden.

The migrants used rocks and metal bars as they battled with police officers from Spain and Morocco, who joined forces to defend the border. Television footage showed migrants perched on the top of the fence as they tried to get over. Around 55 police officers were injured in the chaos - 50 from Morocco and five from Spain. Moroccan authorities said 10 of their security personnel had been serious wounded during the fighting.
It is reprehensible that Europe's governments are assisting, rather than sinking, the invaders' ships and refusing to shoot the invaders, even those who are violently attacking those guarding the national borders. Violence is coming one way or another; better it take place on the borders than inside them.

How would it have been any less an invasion if Hitler had sent one million unarmed Hitler Jugend to cross the English channel on rafts seeking asylum? In the 1940s, the British had the courage to defend themselves. These days, virtually no one but the Saudis, the Hungarians, the Poles, and the Swiss are willing to do so.

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Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 5:00 AM  

A mate of mine served in the Vietnam War with the Royal Australian Navy. A real character, and decidedly un-pc. He told me about a function he was at not so long ago, around the time Australia was having issues with "boat people" (Tony Abbot's term) during the Rudd/Guillard/Rudd fiasco. People were expressing opinions and one lady said "I think its just horrible, these poor people just want better life and we should do all we can to help them.". Someone asked my mate what he thought and he said "Well when I was serving in Vietnam we never had an issue, we standing orders to shoot refugees in the water."
Needless to say it was a conversation stopper.

Blogger Ron January 02, 2017 5:08 AM  

How would it have been any less an invasion if Hitler had sent one million unarmed Hitler Jugend to cross the English channel on rafts seeking asylum?

Really shitty example.

That was the equivalent of saying "what if the Wehrmacht had drop bombed crates of German beer on London instead of V2 rockets, woudl that have been any better? Would it? Eh? Eh asshole?!! No more English beer! What do you say to that?!!!!"

or "What if Hitler had hooked up all Jewish males with blond Aryan geisha supermodels to bear their children?! Would that have been any less of a genocide? Well motherfucker?!!"

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 5:12 AM  

I lived in Australia for 10 years. A few of my male friends said you kick em into the ocean with a shot gun in hand and tell them to start swimming to the next country

Maybe a good idea when dealing with Muslims

It's unfortunate so many Australian women want to help the refugees

Blogger Ron January 02, 2017 5:18 AM  

How would it have been any less an invasion if Hitler had sent one million unarmed Hitler Jugend to cross the English channel on rafts seeking asylum?

All kidding aside, I think you've hit the root of the problem.

The open borders crowds are looking at the incoming Muslim hordes as tho they are unarmed, highly opinionated German youths.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 5:18 AM  

@3 Yeah the policy now is a "boat turn back policy". It has stopped the boats, combined with offshore detention. Very expensive all told, but more palatable to most than shooting them in the water.

Blogger Doug Cranmer January 02, 2017 5:18 AM  

"Really shitty example. ..."

Er, what?

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 5:26 AM  

I was a bit reserved at that time, because they were referring to anyone not born in Australia.. one of my parents was born in Australia.. I was not

But I have come to agree with them

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 5:34 AM  

I find it interesting how slogans with actions attached can really gain traction. With Tony Abbot it was Stop The Boats, for Trump, Build The Wall and Drain The Swamp. Does anyone know if Brexit had an action slogan? Can anyone think of a good one for Europe or it's constituent countries?

Blogger lowercaseb January 02, 2017 5:37 AM  

Dolan's War Nerd wrote about this back in 2008


The Green March (green for Islam, not recycling) was an unarmed invasion of what used to be the Spanish Sahara on Morocco’s southern border. It was a classic lebensraum push, but without weapons. The Moroccan government, facing the pretty obvious fact that it couldn’t take a coffee break by force of arms, thought up a brilliant new strategy: They sent a huge crowd of unarmed citizens across the border and dared the few demoralized Spanish soldiers in their way to open fire. The Spaniards held their fire, no doubt causing Cortez and Pizarro to revolve in their graves at lathe speed, but these aren’t those Spaniards, these are sad Euros with no birthrate. Whereas the Moroccans had a healthy birthrate and wanted everyone to know it: They sent exactly the number of people over the border as there were born in Morocco the year of the march. That’s the way to elbow yourself some lebensraum.

I called it the most important battle of the late 20th century, and I still think it’s the model for most future conquests.


The ironic thing is Dolan is a hard core lefty...but he has this very prescient quote.

Even the older colonial powers, Britain and France, finished the century in big trouble, without the will to resist the new kind of unarmed invasion by immigrants from the colonies they’d once ruled. We’re at a very strange moment militarily: our weapons still work but our will is gone.

Anonymous Matthew McConnagay January 02, 2017 5:37 AM  

...if Hitler had sent one million unarmed Hitler Jugend to cross the English channel on rafts seeking asylum...

Now that's an interesting set-up. Fiction writers, get to it!

Blogger VD January 02, 2017 5:39 AM  

I was a bit reserved at that time, because they were referring to anyone not born in Australia.. one of my parents was born in Australia.. I was not.

Of course. All immigrants are self-serving and care less about the interests of the nation to which they have immigrated than they do about themselves, their families, and whatever they see as their own kind. Your very reaction proves why they have to be kept out, and why second- and third-generation immigrants should not be permitted to vote.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 5:42 AM  

Actually, stupid of me... Brexit fits the pattern of course, British exit. Perhaps something related to both in country refugees and those still on the way.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 5:43 AM  

I was young at that time. 100 % agree and completely respect you. Looking forward to your paper back novels

Blogger VD January 02, 2017 5:54 AM  

I was young at that time. 100 % agree and completely respect you.

It wasn't a criticism, you understand. It's based on my own experience and observations. I know many people in the same situation. We've raised our children to commit entirely to their adopted nation, but most immigrant parents do the precise opposite because they fear their children losing their connection to their friends and relatives left behind.

That's why you see all the mealy-mouthed posturing about "I'm both X and Y". Well, no, you're not. You're X living in Y.

Blogger American Spartan January 02, 2017 5:59 AM  

Rocklea wrote:I find it interesting how slogans with actions attached can really gain traction. With Tony Abbot it was Stop The Boats, for Trump, Build The Wall and Drain The Swamp. Does anyone know if Brexit had an action slogan? Can anyone think of a good one for Europe or it's constituent countries?


The reason why the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union can be expressed in three words: 'Take Back Control'. The Leave side used the alluring slogan repeatedly and relentlessly whereas the Remain side never coined a simple and affective slogan.

Blogger Salt January 02, 2017 6:00 AM  

American Spartan wrote:the Remain side never coined a simple and affective slogan.

Remain slaves doesn't have that suave ring to it.

Blogger wreckage January 02, 2017 6:14 AM  

Historically the main purpose of war has been to enable immigration. Which in turn has been to displace and supplant other people-groups.

These days, most countries that are "better" are so because of the people, institutions, and ideas they foster, but the old instinct to take over the Nice Place is still overwhelming.


Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:16 AM  

Oh I reread, you think of me hostile as many Asians are, like the Chinese that have racial supremacy ingraded in them over thousands of years, because in previous posts I hint I understand Asian cultures. The Chinese language is not difficult to learn, only about 5000 characters to be considered average Chinese. It really is not that difficult - maybe a year of study. And for living in Australia, I learnt blue eyed and blonde haired boys are aryans and therefore as bad as Nazis - taught by Australian teachers. Maybe just for you to test what I am, good for all of you.

I have seen you play Filipinos over their loser culture which is a very cheap copy of the americas. I wish not to be a competitor. I don't come from a cheap culture, I just want to read your content. I am still in my 20s with my own family. It matters to no one how many of my family have been in African or German camps during various wars

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:18 AM  

Fuck em

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 6:18 AM  

Take Back Control, it's very centring statement, both in-group inclusive and othering and personal, all at the same time. Good slogans take on a life of their own, though usually after someone prominent promotes them. A fella I was speaking with a few weeks ago, after the election, said to me in parting regarding Europe,
"You can't build Mosques on ice"
I liked it. He was Aussie of Viking descent and a pagan, reminded me of Heinric at RedIce.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:19 AM  

I mean, they can be converted to be pro western

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:30 AM  

As a Christian, I see you as much more advanced and a big brother. All the best and a merry Christmas to you

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:41 AM  

You are correct. If you did not know more than me, then I would not read your blogs

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 6:41 AM  

@21 I was talking to guy who supplies plant and equipment to the baking industry all over the country the other day. One particular Vietnamese family/tribe he deals with runs half the bakeries in, i wanna say Australia but maybe it was just Queensland. Anyway they nominated one young guy to deal with all the business decisions, they trust him implicitly and he is good at what he does. These type of communities are heavily in-group and highly organised to their own ends. I do like a nice steak bacon n cheese pie though.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 6:42 AM  

Look, I wouldn't follow your site if I didn't learn from it, I completely agree.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 6:48 AM  

Salt said:
"Remain slaves doesn't have that suave ring to it."

Could be 'catchy' in Saudi Arabia.

Blogger Phillip George January 02, 2017 6:55 AM  

There was a 4.1 Richter scale in Castel Riteldi today. Did you feel it?
Vox a substantial portion of your readers a Christian. Some eschatologists will pass these words. Once more in Haggai, He would shake the Heavens and the Earth. Suggest the nations in turmoil running to and fro is one sign of the imminent conflagration.

Renee Moses has just completed her last bit of conjecture on this conflagration. It is original, a world first, unique. Possibly, just right.

Anyway Vox, The nations are only in turmoil because they multicultic'd them. Brown and or dumb would still not be so bad if they were useful, helpful willing worker bees, eager to 'work ethic' help their hosts. Nil respect for history's number one name did them in.

Blogger Phillip George January 02, 2017 6:58 AM  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RWNIOL4GgNU
The nations are stuffed for a reason. Very clever, very original.

Blogger Stilicho January 02, 2017 6:59 AM  

@8 such a slogan may differ by nation due to language and culture: e.g. Restore the Republic (France), Free. Germany, etc.

Blogger AdognamedOp January 02, 2017 7:08 AM  

I got fam in Europe. And while some of them may be subject to leftist propaganda most wont hesitate to speak out on the darkening of their Continent. But I fear it's going to take a lot of spilled blood before they come around completely.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 7:11 AM  

Don't try with my aus friends. The one that said shotgun and start swimming was arrested for cracking another mans skull on camera.. security guards at 6,2 and +200lbs... try it out, they punch very hard

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 7:16 AM  

@30 Agreed, nation specific, but implied action as well, I don't know if their is something simple that would translate well in all the countries though. "Stop the boats" gained popularity through Abbot using it frequently and referring to the refugees as "boat people" (still makes me laugh). But at the same time it was very "Aussie" for some reason. Metallica's 1983 album title aint gunna work yet though.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 02, 2017 7:21 AM  

"Bomb the boats and feed the fish." Pretty sure it was an eighties Forgotten Rebels song.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 7:25 AM  

@35 "Bit a berley for the sharks" would be the Aussie translation.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 7:30 AM  

sorry last comment @33 "Bit a berley for the sharks" would be the Aussie translation.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 02, 2017 7:43 AM  

@24 Rocklea..

Asians are tribal to the extent they are essentially oblivious to anyone outside their family. This ethos is meritocratic only in a very limited sense. The business thrives or fails on the chance that someone in the family actually knows what the hell they are doing. If some non-family member comes along who would be excellent for the business, s/he would find it impossible to even be considered for the position unless first marrying into the family. Even then, more immediate family members would get higher priority.

Asian values are not Western values even with respect to business, although they are qualitatively more so than, for example, somebody from Cameroon.

Anonymous Teutscher January 02, 2017 7:46 AM  

VD nails it -- again! I'm a full-blooded German complete with Bierbauch and Lederhosen who will make Bratwurst out of these invaders.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 02, 2017 7:46 AM  

@Doug Cramer
Which is worse, a Saxon invasion? Or a Somalian and Pakistani one?

Blogger VD January 02, 2017 7:55 AM  

That's enough, Kant. Drop it.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 02, 2017 7:56 AM  

@ Eric the Red
"Asians are tribal to the extent they are essentially oblivious to anyone outside their family."

Exactly. Morally good = good for the family. Morally bad = bad for the family. Larger society doesn't enter into it.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 7:59 AM  

@37 "will make Bratwurst out of these invaders."

I think you just invented the very first 'halal' Bratwurst.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 02, 2017 7:59 AM  

After Trump puts up a wall to prevent further invasion, he must also come down hard on business hiring practices to prevent them from hiring non-citizens, along with high taxes placed directly on those companies like Western Union and Moneygram which allow invaders to send funds back to their homeland. Self-deportation is the key.

Then after that, any half-way measures on legal immigration vetting are too little too late at this point. There must be at least a 10-year moratorium imposed on ALL immigration without exception.

I hope Trump finds the political will to ram this through the inevitable opposition. I now believe Trump is an expert at deal making which is good for one-offs, but I wonder whether that can encompass any structural reform. He's highly intelligent and self-aware, so there's a good chance we'll get at least some lasting changes.

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 8:04 AM  

How about "hug a Muslim before he rapes you"

Anonymous Rocklea January 02, 2017 8:13 AM  

Eric the Red said:
"There must be at least a 10-year moratorium imposed on ALL immigration without exception."

Why not 50 years, all across the West. The pendulum is swinging, but it's still early in the game. For that sort of change their needs to be a widespread reflexive public distrust of outsiders. That won't happen through argument, only through experience.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 8:21 AM  

❤️

Anonymous Marvin Boggs January 02, 2017 8:23 AM  

You get more of the behaviour you reward, and less of the behaviour you punish.

If you really want to stop migrants crossing the Med in boats, punish all involved:
1. Tow the boats back to Africa, along with the passengers.
2. Once back in Africa, blow up the boats.
3. Lock the captain and crew up in prison for 10 years.
4. If the boat owner is someone other than the captain, put out a warrant for his arrest.

As far as Ceuta goes, Spain needs to pass a law that asylum cannot be claimed from Ceuta.

Blogger Rob January 02, 2017 8:23 AM  

Throughout history, mass-migrations have always preceded the downfall of civilizations.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 02, 2017 8:37 AM  

It's fine. I am a Caucasian male, none of your readers would ever care

Blogger Ron January 02, 2017 9:23 AM  

@Doug Cranmer

It was a very bad attempt at a joke.

I meant that the average German during WW2 was for whatever other flaws not a complete lunatic who would engage in random stabbings, and had the Nazi high command adopted a policy of sending one million of their young men into England unarmed, they probably would have ended up building new cities, starting bakeries, good bars and dating the young english women.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 9:29 AM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:@ Eric the Red

"Asians are tribal to the extent they are essentially oblivious to anyone outside their family."

Exactly. Morally good = good for the family. Morally bad = bad for the family. Larger society doesn't enter into it.


There's a term for this kind of thinking: amoral famialism.

https://infogalactic.com/info/The_Moral_Basis_of_a_Backward_Society

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 9:51 AM  

After Trump puts up a wall to prevent further invasion, he must also come down hard on business hiring practices to prevent them from hiring non-citizens, along with high taxes placed directly on those companies like Western Union and Moneygram which allow invaders to send funds back to their homeland. Self-deportation is the key.

Then after that, any half-way measures on legal immigration vetting are too little too late at this point. There must be at least a 10-year moratorium imposed on ALL immigration without exception.

I hope Trump finds the political will to ram this through the inevitable opposition. I now believe Trump is an expert at deal making which is good for one-offs, but I wonder whether that can encompass any structural reform. He's highly intelligent and self-aware, so there's a good chance we'll get at least some lasting changes.

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Why do we need immigrants? Do we have a vast frontier that needs settlers (at the expense of the hapless Indians)? Is there a labor shortage? I would shut down immigration except for marriage.

At one time, even refugees needed sponsors who would be financially responsible for them. A former co-worker told me that her father fled Hungary in the wake of the failed Hungarian revolt of 1956 and was admitted into the US under the sponsorship of a Hungarian church. He was warned that if he would be deported back to Hungary if he ever became a public charge and they didn't care what happened to him at that point. Now, even illegals are eligible for a whole basket of benefits such as EBT.

Around the corner from where I live is a paper store owned and operated by Indians (at least one of whom is a Hindu who loathes Moslems, but that's another story). Occasionally, I go there and see Hispanic-looking men holding a wad of cash and wiring money somewhere via Moneygram.



Anonymous the management January 02, 2017 9:51 AM  

The first time an official border unit in Europe fires on and lethally repels a violent assault like this one, with real guns and operating under orders from a local commander, the entire chain of civilian authorities who have enabled this disaster will be instantly de-legitimized.

Blogger seeingsights January 02, 2017 10:17 AM  

A couple of months ago the world's biggest tsunami machine was created:
https://www.rt.com/news/317737-dutch-biggest-tsunami-machine/



Countries bordering the Med could put these machines on their shores and have them run 24 hours a day. The big water waves will block migrant boats.

Anonymous rienzi January 02, 2017 10:34 AM  

46. Marvin Boggs "If you really want to stop migrants crossing the Med in boats, punish all involved:
1. Tow the boats back to Africa, along with the passengers.
2. Once back in Africa, blow up the boats.
3. Lock the captain and crew up in prison for 10 years.
4. If the boat owner is someone other than the captain, put out a warrant for his arrest."


From what relatives in Spain have told me,they are hearing from local fishermen that numbers one and two are happening on an under the table basis. The "refugees" being dumped ashore along the Morocco/Algeria border.

When it suits their purposes, the Spanish have a long history of "expediting" matters with only a casual regard for the letter of the law.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 10:37 AM  

I have in front of me a reprint of a book entitled "The Old World in the New" by progressive Edward Alsworth Ross, originally published in 1914. He wrote about the various immigrant groups coming to America at the time. According to him, we had less trouble Americanizing immigrants from advanced areas of Europe such as Germany or northern Italy and more trouble with immigrants from jerkwater areas such as southern Italy and Poland. He was particularly concerned about Slavic immigration, which was predominately Polish at the time. The terms he used to describe Polish culture included "medieval" or "middle ages." Sending children to Catholic schools was one way Catholic parents resisted Americanization. Ross also had the temerity to criticize Jews (oh, my gosh).

Of course, we can debate how "Americanized" immigrants and their offspring from Germany and northern Italy really were, how much they maintained their old country values into the US and was that a good or bad thing.

Now, we're getting large numbers of violent, stupid, arrogant and welfare-seeking immigrants (Africans and Moslems) from countries where most of the population would find 19th Century southern Italy a more advanced society.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 02, 2017 10:43 AM  

Elizabeth wrote:I would shut down immigration except for marriage.

Why allow even that? If you want to marry a wog, go live in Wogland. Don't bring your trash to my country.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 11:02 AM  

Chris Mallory wrote:Elizabeth wrote:I would shut down immigration except for marriage.

Why allow even that? If you want to marry a wog, go live in Wogland. Don't bring your trash to my country.


Any offspring will have one American parent. Plus, many of the immigrant spouses will be from Europe. Over the years, many servicemen brought back local girls they married. It's an American tradition.

If we don't seek to send troops and impose "democracy" on Wogland, we won't have troops bringing home spouses from Wogland.

Now, men order "mail-order brides" via international romance websites. That has to be carefully vetted by Immigration and Naturalization because many of the spouses are only looking for a green card.

It's not like a million people a year are marrying Americans and seek admission to the US.

Anonymous Fed Up Aussie January 02, 2017 11:14 AM  

Take Back Control, it's very centring statement, both in-group inclusive and othering and personal, all at the same time.

I prefer the simple; "Fuck off, we're full."

Anonymous Fed Up Aussie January 02, 2017 11:22 AM  

Now, men order "mail-order brides" via international romance websites. That has to be carefully vetted by Immigration and Naturalization because many of the spouses are only looking for a green card.

I can't speak for America but for Australia restrict immigration via marriage to only those of purely English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, German, Austrian and maybe the uncucked parts of France, Scandanavia and the whitest parts of Eastern Europe. The first 6 ethnicities make up the majority of founding stock of Australia (pre-Federation) and the latter 3 are closely related enough to maybe pass muster. For the rest, if you want a foreign spouse then move to a foreign land.

I can only recommend Americans adopt a similar policy but since America is not my country its not my business. America though is our largest ally and all that stands between us and being overrun by China.

Anonymous Bob Just January 02, 2017 11:22 AM  

2016: The year the butter knife was weaponized

http://www.thelocal.at/20161230/bible-reader-stabbed-by-asylum-seeker

Anonymous Marvin Boggs January 02, 2017 11:41 AM  

Re deportations and the wall:

If we a) cut off all government benefits (school, medical, driver's license, etc) and make it very unpleasant for companies that wittingly hire illegals, many illegals will leave because the benefits of being illegals will have ceased.

Per Google, the US-Mexico border is just under 2000 miles. Per Google, remittances to Mexico from Mexicans in the US run about $2B per month. If the wall costs about $1M per mile, one month of remittances pays for the wall. thank-you Mexico.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 12:05 PM  

Fed Up Aussie wrote: Now, men order "mail-order brides" via international romance websites. That has to be carefully vetted by Immigration and Naturalization because many of the spouses are only looking for a green card.

I can't speak for America but for Australia restrict immigration via marriage to only those of purely English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, German, Austrian and maybe the uncucked parts of France, Scandanavia and the whitest parts of Eastern Europe. The first 6 ethnicities make up the majority of founding stock of Australia (pre-Federation) and the latter 3 are closely related enough to maybe pass muster. For the rest, if you want a foreign spouse then move to a foreign land.

I can only recommend Americans adopt a similar policy but since America is not my country its not my business. America though is our largest ally and all that stands between us and being overrun by China.


Wow, I didn't know that. Good idea. From a practical standpoint, Australia limits immigration via marriage from closely-related ethnically, culturally and religiously nations. They are easier and more likely to fit in. Plus, except for someone from the most backward and impoverished parts of Europe, they will not be marrying for the money.

It's important for the host society, whether Australia or the US, to believe in itself and insist on assimilation. We did at one time - even liberals did - but, we don't know. Quite the contrary.

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'” January 02, 2017 12:16 PM  

@Marvin Boggs / comment 46,

Tow the boats back where they came from and release the invaders so they can try again one day?

Tuez les tous, dieu reconnaîtra les siens.

That way you ensure the invaders never get a re-try, the businessman loses his whole boat (and we didn't waste any time trying to discover his identity), and relatives learn the lesson that the crossing is deadly.

Related to the silly discussion of whether to imprison drug-USERS (who steal my stuff) or drug-DEALERS who sell the product that make people want to steal my stuff. Throw them ALL in jail. Or follow the Presidente Duarte plan, which would be my preference.

TLDR: "I want you to be nice until it's time to not be nice." (ROAD HOUSE!). The time to be nice passed a long, long time ago.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 12:19 PM  

One fact that is often overlooked in the discussion of immigration is that some groups possess what I call "an attitude problem." It's a myth that all immigrants from Europe kissed the ground when they arrived in America and eagerly leapt into "the melting pot." Eastern and southern Europeans were particularly resistant to assimilation. But, with one exception, no European immigrant community had a grudge against America, Western Civilization, Christians or Christianity. That one exception was the Jews, especially the eastern European Jews. They were the first group to demand that society had to change in order to reflect their values, serve their interests and gratify their ancient spite against Christians and even more ancient spite against Gentiles in general. The war against Christianity didn't start with the atheists - they simply followed the well-trodden paths of the Jews.

Blogger DrAndroSF January 02, 2017 1:21 PM  

Perhaps it's because I've never fought in a war, but I am utterly at a loss to understand why Western nations never even allow the thought of armed firepower at the border, used against invaders, to enter their hyper-civilized minds. What the F is a military good for if you will not use it to prevent masses of alien males from entering your territory? This, if we survive, will be one of the great puzzles of history. PS Were I, inexperienced in war, to Rise To Power, there'd be piles of bloody bodies at the border on the next day, and on the following day, the invasion would stop. (Am I wrong about this?)

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 02, 2017 1:36 PM  

Can anyone think of a good one for Europe or it's constituent countries?

Save The Native Europeans

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 1:42 PM  

DrAndroSF wrote:Perhaps it's because I've never fought in a war, but I am utterly at a loss to understand why Western nations never even allow the thought of armed firepower at the border, used against invaders, to enter their hyper-civilized minds. What the F is a military good for if you will not use it to prevent masses of alien males from entering your territory? This, if we survive, will be one of the great puzzles of history. PS Were I, inexperienced in war, to Rise To Power, there'd be piles of bloody bodies at the border on the next day, and on the following day, the invasion would stop. (Am I wrong about this?)



No, you're not wrong about this.

Anonymous BBGKB January 02, 2017 1:51 PM  

So let me get this STR8, if I beat up a cop to get past a barrier I am legally entitled to free stuff?

"what if the Wehrmacht had drop bombed crates of German beer on London instead of V2 rockets, woudl that have been any better

England would have surrendered after the first bombing.

It has stopped the boats, combined with offshore detention. Very expensive all told, but more palatable to most than shooting them in the water.

A single 50 call bullet can sink their boats, I know the ammo is not cheap but it will be well worth it.

The Leave side used the alluring slogan repeatedly and relentlessly whereas the Remain side never coined a simple and affective slogan

Didn't you hear the "We would rather be raped than be racist, vote stay"

I mean, they can be converted to be pro western

The only thing the 3rd world likes about the 1st is the benefits office. Anything else they could copy in their homeland.

, there'd be piles of bloody bodies at the border on the next day, and on the following day, the invasion would stop. (Am I wrong about this?)

Since there was a recent post asking for reviews of Throne of Bone/Sea Of Skulls- Offer a silver piece for ever 3rd world scrotum turned in.

Blogger JWM in SD January 02, 2017 2:02 PM  

Elizabeth wrote:After Trump puts up a wall to prevent further invasion, he must also come down hard on business hiring practices to prevent them from hiring non-citizens, along with high taxes placed directly on those companies like Western Union and Moneygram which allow invaders to send funds back to their homeland. Self-deportation is the key.

Then after that, any half-way measures on legal immigration vetting are too little too late at this point. There must be at least a 10-year moratorium imposed on ALL immigration without exception.

I hope Trump finds the political will to ram this through the inevitable opposition. I now believe Trump is an expert at deal making which is good for one-offs, but I wonder whether that can encompass any structural reform. He's highly intelligent and self-aware, so there's a good chance we'll get at least some lasting changes.

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Why do we need immigrants? Do we have a vast frontier that needs settlers (at the expense of the hapless Indians)? Is there a labor shortage? I would shut down immigration except for marriage.

At one time, even refugees needed sponsors who would be financially responsible for them. A former co-worker told me that her father fled Hungary in the wake of the failed Hungarian revolt of 1956 and was admitted into the US under the sponsorship of a Hungarian church. He was warned that if he would be deported back to Hungary if he ever became a public charge and they didn't care what happened to him at that point. Now, even illegals are eligible for a whole basket of benefits such as EBT.

Around the corner from where I live is a paper store owned and operated by Indians (at least one of whom is a Hindu who loathes Moslems, but that's another story). Occasionally, I go there and see Hispanic-looking men holding a wad of cash and wiring money somewhere via Moneygram.



Elizabeth,

The refugees coming here to the US have been sponsored by certain non-profits / NGO's that claim to be Christian predicated on the destabilizing of the ME. That's how it got started here primarily after the Arab Spring that Hitlery kicked off in 2009 / 10.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 2:13 PM  

@69 -

Yup, I know.

https://capitalresearch.org/article/refugee-resettlement-the-lucrative-business-of-serving-immigrants/

Anonymous VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'” January 02, 2017 2:33 PM  

@Elizabeth /comment 64:

Thanks for that comment--let's not forget that although you can be mortified at a pit bull for going after your kid, and then shoot the pit bull so he never goes after another kid...the real vengeance should be wrought onto the (((people))) who invited all the pit bulls to come live in our collective neighborhood.

It's like (((they))) are incapable of any self-realization that the common denominator in all their failed relationships with host nations is...(((them))).

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 3:26 PM  

VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'” wrote:@Elizabeth /comment 64:

Thanks for that comment--let's not forget that although you can be mortified at a pit bull for going after your kid, and then shoot the pit bull so he never goes after another kid...the real vengeance should be wrought onto the (((people))) who invited all the pit bulls to come live in our collective neighborhood.

It's like (((they))) are incapable of any self-realization that the common denominator in all their failed relationships with host nations is...(((them))).


Ha ha! Brings to mind a saying: "If I don't like you, that's my problem. If no one likes you, that's your problem." This (((group))) has been kicked from pillar to post for centuries - is it always the host nation's fault or do they make themselves unpopular? The official narrative is that the envious, bigoted Christians are to blame. This (((group))) is blameless.

What really frosts me is when Westerners bash their own kind and toady to this (((group))). They spit on their own people and, no doubt, and feel morally superior doing it. The religious ones no doubt figure that they are earning brownie points with the almighty.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

@42 Eric the Red
There must be at least a 10-year moratorium imposed on ALL immigration without exception.
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I'm really curious why people think this way. Why only 10 years? Why not 1000 years?

What would be the good of stopping it for 10 years, then here they come again? As soon as another toxic lefty gets in power after that 10 years, you know they will begin whittling away at whatever solution we come up with.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

Eric, I ask because I have seen that similar sentiment a lot of times on Twitter and other blogs, nothing personal :P

Blogger Were-Puppy January 02, 2017 4:15 PM  

@63 VFM 3061 “Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'”
Or follow the Presidente Duarte plan, which would be my preference.
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That guy is ahead of the curve in dealing with his drug war. Making it so costly to do business there, I wonder if it will work in the end ?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 02, 2017 4:17 PM  

@65 DrAndroSF
Perhaps it's because I've never fought in a war, but I am utterly at a loss to understand why Western nations never even allow the thought of armed firepower at the border, used against invaders, to enter their hyper-civilized minds.
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It's because (((someone))) are experts at opening the city gates to invaders

Blogger Were-Puppy January 02, 2017 4:23 PM  

@72 Elizabeth
What really frosts me is when Westerners bash their own kind and toady to this (((group))). They spit on their own people and, no doubt, and feel morally superior doing it. The religious ones no doubt figure that they are earning brownie points with the almighty.
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Part of this problem is (((hello fellow white guys))) have convinced a lot of whiteys that (((they))) are white guys.

That's where people accuse them of self loathing, etc. Which I find hilarious and just let it slide, as the one time I pointed out, for instance, that dumb professor who recently called for white genocide as being ((())). A response from somebody was "same shit" :P

I just cracked open a copy of The Spanish Inquisition and it is detailing the society of those days. Very interesting, and very familiar to what we see happening these days.

Blogger Elizabeth January 02, 2017 4:41 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:@72 Elizabeth

What really frosts me is when Westerners bash their own kind and toady to this (((group))). They spit on their own people and, no doubt, and feel morally superior doing it. The religious ones no doubt figure that they are earning brownie points with the almighty.

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Part of this problem is (((hello fellow white guys))) have convinced a lot of whiteys that (((they))) are white guys.

That's where people accuse them of self loathing, etc. Which I find hilarious and just let it slide, as the one time I pointed out, for instance, that dumb professor who recently called for white genocide as being ((())). A response from somebody was "same shit" :P

I just cracked open a copy of The Spanish Inquisition and it is detailing the society of those days. Very interesting, and very familiar to what we see happening these days.


The fair-mindedness that is a characteristic of northern European people, the giving of even the Devil his due, is used against us by ethnocentric groups.

I don't think liberal guilt exists. Liberals don't feel guilty; quite the contrary, they're very proud of themselves and feel morally superior to those nasty bigoted deplorables who voted for Donald Trump. If anyone feels guilty, its some of the conservatives because conservatives are more likely to actually possess a moral conscience.

The Drexel professor is a member of the (((tribe)))? Didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. It goes without saying that he isn't calling for genocide of his (((people))).

What happened in Spain that led up to the Spanish Inquisition? I know about the choice that Jews and Moslems were given: to either convert to Catholicism or leave. Centuries of battling the Moslems for their very existence created a very aggressive, intolerant form of Catholicism.

Blogger rumpole5 January 02, 2017 6:50 PM  

Our forefathers made dealing with invasion one of the exceptions to the prohibition of a state militia, so they understood the importance of repelling the same:

"Article I Section 10...

No State shall... keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of peace ...or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

I am surprized that the states are not using this exception to repel the actual invasion taking place right now.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 02, 2017 6:51 PM  

I'm really curious why people think this way. Why only 10 years?

I talk about a 10-year moratorium for two reasons.

1. Laws can be overturned, and presidents last for 8 years at most. If a pro-invasion president/Congress are elected 4 or 8 years from now, they can overturn any moratorium passed today, whether it's for 10 years or 1000.

2. Rhetorically, it's more persuasive. Many people, even Trump supporters, are still attached to the melting pot myth. You can convince them the pot has been overfilled in recent decades and needs time to catch up, but they'll dig in their heels and refuse to consider anything that sounds permanent. Get them on board with a short-term moratorium now; work on making it long-term tomorrow.

Anonymous T and A man January 02, 2017 8:40 PM  

"Stop the rapes"

Anonymous Discard January 03, 2017 1:51 PM  

57. Elizabeth: I know a lesbian who "married" three Mexicans in succession to get them legal status. Easy money for her.
If you leave a path, they will take it.

Blogger maurice January 06, 2017 7:42 AM  

If they are coming to steal your shit it matters not. And if they are coming uninvited, against your wishes you have every right to use as much force as it takes to stop an invasion. They have no rights in this case.

Blogger maurice January 06, 2017 7:50 AM  

The politicians and leaders who have backed this mass immigration need to be arrested, charged, and punished as traitors. They should be made an example of, in the harshest way possible according to the law. They are traitors to their nation and people.

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