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Saturday, January 28, 2017

Jews are the enemy of "Old Europe"


"We see ourselves together, fighting together, with our Muslim brothers," said the rabbi. "They are our natural allies."

That simply could not be more clear. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, is absolutely correct. Europe's Jews belong in Israel, not in Europe. They certainly deserve absolutely no protection from "their Muslim brothers" with whom they are "fighting alongside", or from anyone else, for that matter. They are, by their own declaration, the enemy of Old Europe. They hope to establish "a New Europe" with their "Muslim brothers".

There is no "Jewish question" here because there is nothing to question. To paraphrase Moshe Feiglin, if someone declares himself to be your enemy, one should do him the courtesy of taking him seriously.

I'm pro-Israel, and pro-Israeli nationalism, and I rather like Zehut's focus on identity in Israeli politics, but I am first and foremost on the side of Old Europe, America, and Western Civilization. If that makes me an enemy, so be it. Whether you are Jewish, or Israeli, or just a conservative subscriber to the mythical Judeo-Christian values, how can you possibly align yourself with these people and still consider yourself to be on the side of America, Christianity, or the West?

Whose side are you on? The Alt-Right knows. We stand for the survival of Christendom, the European nations, and the West.

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Blogger Ostar January 28, 2017 10:12 AM  

Stand with the Alt-Right, not the Ctrl-Left.

Blogger Ransom Smith January 28, 2017 10:14 AM  

Vox, do you suspect that the Jews will gradually drift to Isreal now that the west is slowly beginning to reject them?

Blogger pyrrhus January 28, 2017 10:16 AM  

All advocates for the Zeroeth Amendment should be deported....

Blogger cheddarman January 28, 2017 10:16 AM  

At least he comes out and says what people have observed all along.

Anonymous Godfrey January 28, 2017 10:16 AM  

We must begin to work with our Palestinian brothers for the restoration of Palestine.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 28, 2017 10:17 AM  

Our colonizers must go, one way or another.

Free my people

Blogger Ingot9455 January 28, 2017 10:17 AM  

The stupidity burns.
That pregnant pause as if all the rational forces in his body are trying but failing to keep him from saying, "Our Muslim....... .. brothers.."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 28, 2017 10:20 AM  

And to think the cucks were going to hold dialectical discussions with people like the Rabbi. And he is the best of the lot now imagine the usual muslim retard, how do you do thesis, antithesis with that without losing one's mind?

Blogger Cecil Henry January 28, 2017 10:31 AM  

The answer is simple: OUT.

Get OUT. The West is not property for the world.


One problem: Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for Everyone IS White Genocide.

1.White people exist.
2. White people have the RIGHT to exist.
3. White people have the RIGHT to exist AS White people in White Communities and Nations.


Freedom now!!! from this enforced, coercive, parasitic, anti-white, genocidal diversity. Its a crime, not a 'policy option'

Blogger Nick S January 28, 2017 10:31 AM  

It's interesting to note that leftists are flipping their freakin' lids over Trump implying that he will give preferential treatment to persecuted Christians in the Middle East in an interview on CBN's Brody File.

Blogger Sherwood family January 28, 2017 10:32 AM  

Jewish people have a homeland to go to now. They can run it how they want. But it is time for them to make their return to Israel and let the rest of us get to running our homelands the way we want. When everyone has their own place which they can order as they see fit there won't be any need for conflict between the groups.

But maintaining, as some do, that they are going to keep living in the West and work with the avowed enemies of the West to take it down and remake it in their own image? Well...that doesn't give those of us who are intent on the West's survival much choice.

They have to go. For our sake. And for theirs.

Blogger Student in Blue January 28, 2017 10:40 AM  

The chutzpah on this guy... sheesh. "So that they can integrate like we have been integrated."

Which is, blatantly, not integrated at all since he can't think of himself as anything but a Jew.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 28, 2017 10:42 AM  

It is quite simple I do not want to be ruled by the rabbi or his muslim allies.

It is why I like Wilder's political party's rhetoric "Freedom" let our enemies be against it and let the cucks be the traitors they are.

The rhetoric of "Freedom" beats the living shit out of the usual scam of some dipshit conservative intellectual waddling out there to hold "dialectical" discussions with crazies.

What's the difference between Milo and a conservative intellectual? Milo is honest about his love for biting the pillow.

Blogger Beowulf the Geat January 28, 2017 10:43 AM  

If the Rabbi's forefathers had truly integrated, he wouldn't be on TV defending a specific Jewish interest, let alone one that was opposed to Old Europe.

Anonymous Mark Auld January 28, 2017 10:49 AM  

Well his remarks left no room for doubt, and pay for your own ticket out!

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 10:54 AM  

One false belief I've heard from many conservatives is that the problem is liberal or secular Jews. It's another "it's not the people, it's the leftism" argument. This leads them to believe that increased orthodoxy among Jews (and their higher birth rate) is a good thing, and that we might be able to ally with them against the "bad" liberal Jews.

But when you look into it a little, you find out the more observant Jews are more openly contemptuous of Gentiles, especially Christians. The liberal Hollywood Jew just thinks Christians are beneath him; the orthodox rabbi has specific reasons to hate us from his holy books. A Christian would be much better off living in a majority secular Jewish nation than a highly devout one (though neither would be ideal, of course).

As was shown in a thread the other day, Jews of all stripes believe they have a divine or innate duty -- and a right -- to enlighten the world. Fine, let them enlighten it from Israel.

Blogger Lazarus January 28, 2017 11:01 AM  

Pinchas Goldschmidt, Chief Rabbi of Moscow

Goldschmidt was deported from Russia during September 2005, and was allowed to return to his community after three months, only after an international campaign. In 2010 by special order of Russia's president, Dmitry Medvedev, he was made a citizen of Russia.

Blogger Lazarus January 28, 2017 11:03 AM  

Goldschmidt

Blogger Lazarus January 28, 2017 11:04 AM  

the link looks good on the preview, but does not publish.

Anyway........... https://judas.watch/Pinchas_Goldschmidt

Blogger Open Carry January 28, 2017 11:06 AM  

The "brotherhood" has been somewhat strained in recent years - an article by Buchanan - and even if this particular individual doesn't get it, many do.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 11:09 AM  

The child fable by Aesop about the scorpion asking a frog to cross the river seems to aptly apply... take care not to be the frog(Even if you think Pepe is too cool)

Blogger James Jones January 28, 2017 11:12 AM  

I don't understand. Israel is surrounded by Muslim nations that would love to see them driven into the sea.

Why on earth would they want to see Muslim nations in Europe?

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 11:20 AM  

Why on earth would they want to see Muslim nations in Europe?

Because they hate Europeans and Christians even more.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 28, 2017 11:20 AM  

Why do parasites flourish?

Blogger Nick S January 28, 2017 11:23 AM  

Sherwood family wrote:class="comment-body">They have to go. For our sake. And for theirs.

It simply is not going to happen. That's the reality and the truth of it. Now what?

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 11:27 AM  

It simply is not going to happen. That's the reality and the truth of it.

Yes, it is. The Jews of France are going home. The Jews of Britain are next. The Jewish religion calls for it: "next year in Jerusalem". Christianity predicts it. The Israeli Prime Minister is calling for it.

And now their leaders have begun openly declaring themselves the enemies of Europe and Christianity, and the allies of Islam, at the very moment that Europe is gearing up to expel the Muslims.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 11:27 AM  

Why on earth would they want to see Muslim nations in Europe?

They lived well under the Moors in Spain. It's a myth that there's a natural antipathy between Muslims and Jews that prevents them from allying and working together. Sure, you can find quotes from Muslims and the Koran about Jews behind rocks and so on, but you can find the same kind of quotes from Jews and the Talmud about Christians. From the Jewish perspective taking history into account, Muslim dominance looks no worse than Christian dominance, and perhaps better. For one thing, Arab and African Muslims are lower IQ, presumably easier to manipulate.

You'd think the ideal for Jews would be to keep Europe as secular as it has become -- Christianity has been watered down and disrespected, so keep Islam out too, and continue to advance secularism and the Kingdom of Man. But I think they look around and see that churches and cathedrals still standing (even if empty), and can't help seeing white nominal Christians as Crusaders who might go on a pogrom at any time. So bring in Muslims and play the two groups against each other.

Anonymous Hesiod January 28, 2017 11:29 AM  

Jews have been expelled from hundreds of nations. Clearly, it's bigoted honkey's fault and the jews dindu nuffins.

Blogger Wanderer January 28, 2017 11:31 AM  

James Jones wrote:Why on earth would they want to see Muslim nations in Europe?

Jews prefer Muslims. They think Christianity is inherently antisemitic and was used to justify 2000 years of antisemitism. They think Islam's concept of Allah is more in line with their beliefs than the trinity.

Blogger Wanderer January 28, 2017 11:32 AM  

Also probably revenge for the Roman Empire destroying Israel in 70 AD and smashing Solomon's Temple into rubble.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 11:33 AM  

Watched your interview with Stefan earlier... you had just worked out before the interview .. you really follow your words, you always work hard... i hope others will notice and see you as inspiration... many of the next generation should be able to see that this is normal

Blogger cheddarman January 28, 2017 11:35 AM  

Rabbi B is right!

Blogger praetorian January 28, 2017 11:45 AM  

The more serious problem is not this particular Rabbi, but that rather than attacking him, other jews will attack us for pointing out what he says.

This is how the reasonable, if grating, ethnocentrism of the jews ends up supporting their radicals.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 28, 2017 11:47 AM  


The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And Jews have hated Christ and The West for 2000+ years.

That is the hate that dare not reveal itself directly.

A Powerful book: 'The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit' by E Michael Jones.

Worth every page.

Blogger David Power January 28, 2017 11:48 AM  

The awkward question no one in the (((establishment media))) will ever ask President Trump...

Mr President, considering it's GDP per capita is now higher than even Japan's, (23rd highest in the world according to the latest IMF figures) is it still appropriate for America to be handing over so much of it's annual Foreign Aid budget to Israel?

Anonymous JI January 28, 2017 11:48 AM  

Cail Corbashev wrote in #16: "...Jews of all stripes believe they have a divine or innate duty -- and a right -- to enlighten the world. Fine, let them enlighten it from Israel."

As I understand it, that was the purpose of the chosen people - to be a light to the world. And they failed miserably at it in the days of the Old Testament, hence Christ. I think the point you're getting at, not to put words in your mouth, is that they're still failing horribly because, in general, they're not acting very enlightening. Or am I misinterpreting what you're saying?

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative January 28, 2017 11:49 AM  

But....but....but...muh Judeo-Christ!

Blogger wreckage January 28, 2017 11:49 AM  

If anyone doesn't like Europe ... or anywhere else ... he can fuck off home. Jew, not Jew, I do not give one single shit.

Accept the local culture or leave! This was a choice denied Jews for centuries, but, thanks to those horrible Christians mind you, Jews have a homeland again. Hence, there is no excuse for sticking around if you don't like it.

Honestly. This guy is a complete twat.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 28, 2017 11:50 AM  

Judaizers go home!

Blogger Nick S January 28, 2017 11:50 AM  

VD wrote:Yes, it is. The Jews of France are going home. The Jews of Britain are next. The Jewish religion calls for it: "next year in Jerusalem". Christianity predicts it. The Israeli Prime Minister is calling for it.

And now their leaders have begun openly declaring themselves the enemies of Europe and Christianity, and the allies of Islam, at the very moment that Europe is gearing up to expel the Muslims.


Possibly sometime in the distant future. I don't know about other countries, but if you believe this List of Jewish American politicians are all going to pick up and move to Israel in any of our lifetimes I think you're mistaken. We'll see.

Blogger Markku January 28, 2017 11:50 AM  

I'm happy that they have decided to start going on record saying it. I've been SO tired of the pretense.

Blogger Dave January 28, 2017 11:51 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:It is quite simple I do not want to be ruled by the rabbi or his muslim allies.

It is why I like Wilder's political party's rhetoric "Freedom" let our enemies be against it and let the cucks be the traitors they are.


Unfortunately Geert's speeches still mention respect for Judeo-Christian values. His eyes are only partially opened.

Blogger James Jones January 28, 2017 11:52 AM  

Thanks for your responses.

It deosn't really make sense from a Jewish perspective to have Europe become heavily Islamised.

To have a continent that is pretty indifferent to Jews, become a continent that is hostile, seems madness.

But maybe it plays into the pathological desire for Jews to maintain their victimhood status.

Five years ago, I was sure the demographic and political movement was towards an Islamic Europe. Now, I believe Europe is awakening in time and the Left is in retreat and will be unable to prevent a reconquista.

But it struck me that it was ironic that God's chosen people would have been the ones who were a driving force in creating world conditions for the islamic antichrist to come to power.

Blogger Lazarus January 28, 2017 11:55 AM  

Wanderer wrote:Also probably revenge for the Roman Empire destroying Israel in 70 AD and smashing Solomon's Temple into rubble.

That was Herods temple. Solomon's was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar II after the Siege of Jerusalem of 587 BCE.

Blogger Hugo Smith January 28, 2017 11:59 AM  

Meanwhile, over at John C. Wright's blog:

http://www.scifiwright.com/2017/01/and-the-rage-within-me-spoke/

Read the comments. Judeophilia is pathological in some people.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 28, 2017 12:00 PM  

It begins, colonizers stopped in Cairo and JFK airport as the Trump ban begins.


Panic at the borders: Seven U.S-bound migrants stopped in Cairo and two refugees detained at JFK as Trump immigration ban takes effect while top firms like Google scramble to get Middle Eastern workers back into U.S.


The wailing from the swamp stream media only is beginning, the Silicon Sultans will rage, screams of Raysism will be heard.

We. Don't. Care.
Shut. The. Gates.

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Blogger Timmy3 January 28, 2017 12:01 PM  

Jews were fighting against Christians in America. So all the liberalism is Jew caused. It is all so clear now. Muslims must return as well. Oddly, having more Muslims in Europe forced the Jews to return. Trump will turn America more Christian. I wonder the implications.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 28, 2017 12:08 PM  

"Judeo-Muslim" makes far more sense than "Judeo-Christian".

Blogger Johnny January 28, 2017 12:08 PM  

The way things settled out in Islam land is that the non followers of Islam were required to pay a tax to the local potentate, who as secular in that he came to power through war or palace intrigue. Think about it and it explains the tolerance in the previous centuries. The thing is the potentate was getting a financial reward for having the infidel population around. Lacking that reward, and apparently it isn't happening, tolerance is unlikely. Combine that with a predictable period of zealotry if Islam comes to power, and it will be the same old thing the same old way. When the killing starts it is the low hanging fruit that goes first and that will be the Jews.

The core thinking problem most Jews have is that they focus on moral judgment instead of cause, defining cause here in why it happened, the sequence of events, not who is to blame morally. Because they habitually blame somebody else they are unable to identify how their own behavior drives events.

Blogger Nick S January 28, 2017 12:12 PM  

@46

Right, right, right, right, right. The implication is holy war. The majority won't return voluntarily. It's going to get uglier than most have imagined.

Blogger yoghi.llama January 28, 2017 12:22 PM  

Not all Jews are like that.

https://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/

Blogger Some Dude January 28, 2017 12:27 PM  

Thassss racissss.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 12:29 PM  

It's going to get uglier than most have imagined.

What do you think I have been telling everyone for years. I have nothing personal against either Jews or Muslims. Neither have ever done any harm to me. Which is why I've been telling them both, for years, that the time has come for them to go home. Before it's too late.

You'd think they would listen to an Indian. We know what the White Man can do....

Not all Jews are like that.

So what? They are their own nation and have their own national interests. Even the Jews who are not like that will defend the Jews who are, just as the moderate Muslim will defend the radical Muslim. Their nationalism is fine, so long as they pursue it from their own homelands, and not to the detriment of others in their own homelands.

Blogger Harry Cassandra January 28, 2017 12:30 PM  

Given the intellectual forebears of feminism, socialism and the sodomite rights movement, I'm convinced we're being lied to regarding the 'threat' of Islam. Though still, ultimately, an adversary we find a much closer moral and theological ally in the Turk than we do in the 'other' monotheism, who just happens to also have an inordinate amount of representation in the upper echelons of the media.

Blogger Wanderer January 28, 2017 12:33 PM  

Lazarus wrote:That was Herods temple. Solomon's was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar II after the Siege of Jerusalem of 587 BCE.

BCE? Please don't let this catch on. Referring to the year as 587 is still un-PC since it's still 587 years before Christ.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 12:37 PM  

Or am I misinterpreting what you're saying?

Yes. It doesn't matter why Jews think they have a right to bring enlightenment to the world, whether it's a devout Jew getting it from his religion or a secular Jew getting it from his mother's milk. The point is it's part of who they are, and not something they absorb as part of leftism. "Conservative" Jews in the Podhoretz or Kristol mold have exactly the same attitude, which is how we got neo-conservatism.

It also doesn't matter whether they're good at enlightening us. I'm not objecting because they're bad at it; I'm saying it's a bad idea to try to do it at all, in majority Christian nations. A guest doesn't lecture the host on how he should rearrange his furniture, unless he wants to get kicked out.

Blogger Sheila4g January 28, 2017 12:46 PM  

People who object to "ovening" memes need to be locked in a room watching an endless loop of Goldschmitt, Barbara Lerner, Susan Sontag, Chuck Schumer, etc.

Related - over at a thread at Sailer's blog a few days ago regarding Indians as the latest SJWs, a commenter noted that at least one had turned and bitten his enablers:

"My favorite here is Preet Bharara. Harvard, Columbia Law, his way paved by multi-cult fanatical Jews. Give that seat to an Indian, not some flyover white guy! And then he goes and starts investigating Jewish hedge fund managers. That’s the thanks you get!

And my favorite of all: “During his first year in office, Bharara charged 17 managers and employees of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims for defrauding Germany 42.5 million dollars by creating thousands of false benefit applications for people who have not suffered in the Holocaust. The fraud which has been going on for 16 years was related to the 400 million dollars which Germany pays out each year to Holocaust survivors.”

How many "survivors" can there be 70 years later? Do their kids and grandkids get the $ in perpetuity? Does it ever end?

Blogger Servant of the Chief January 28, 2017 12:49 PM  

"We see ourselves together, fighting together, with our Muslim brothers," said the rabbi. "They are our natural allies."

Fucking what? Jews hating Christianity and Old Europe I get, Jews seeing muslims as a useful means of destroying Europe I can understand, short sighted and stupid, but the principle of 'lets you and him fight' is as old as politics. But Jews seeing muslims as their 'brothers'? What crazed lunacy is this?

Blogger David Power January 28, 2017 12:51 PM  

Jews have been expelled from hundreds of nations. Clearly, it's bigoted honkey's fault and the jews dindu nuffins.


YEAR-- - - - - PLACE

250 -- - - - - -Carthage
415 -- - - - - -Alexandria
554 ----------Clermont (France)
561 -- - - - - -Uzès (France)
612 -- - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 -- - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 -- - - - - Italy
876 -- - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - France
1182 -- - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - -Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - England
1306 -- - - - France
1322 -- - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - HielbronnGermany
1349 -- - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - France
1420 -- - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - -- - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - France
1453 -- - - - Breslau
1454 --- - -- Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - Prague
1550 -- - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - Austria
1567 -- - --- Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - Brandenburg
1597 -- - - - Cremona
1614 -- - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - -Beylorus
1656 -- - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - Oran(North Africa)
1669 -- - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - Beylorus
1744 -- - - - Prague
1744 -- - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - Bordeaux
1775 -- - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - Alsace
1815 -- - - - Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - Russian Border
1862 -- - - - Areas in the U.S. under General Grant
1866 -- - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - Bavaria
1938-45 - - Nazi Areas
1948 -- - - - Arab Countries
???? -- - - - USA

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 12:54 PM  

But Jews seeing muslims as their 'brothers'?

It's rhetoric. No, of course he doesn't mean it; but he wants them as brothers-in-arms (or useful soldiers to direct), so close enough.

Anonymous Loki7 January 28, 2017 1:03 PM  

`Natural allies` Read the talmud with sharia and you find yourself doing more comparing than contrasting. I`ve heard the claim that Christianity was a jewish conspiracy that got away from them but I find islam makes for a better canidate.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 28, 2017 1:09 PM  

The chutzpah on this guy... sheesh. "So that they can integrate like we have..."

Damned odd way to spell "infiltrate."

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 1:10 PM  

Ya know, the testimony of one Jew may or may not be dispositive of the inclinations of all Jews.

Blogger Servant of the Chief January 28, 2017 1:10 PM  

"It's rhetoric."

I get that and I guess I should no longer be surprised. In a sane world I could've said "But who would honestly believe that?" but then realised there's hundreds of thousands of people who would just accept that at face value and millions of muslims who'd play a long for the sake of Taqqiya. Fuck me.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 28, 2017 1:11 PM  

But Jews seeing muslims as their 'brothers'? What crazed lunacy is this?

@57 Servant of the Chief
You're thinking like a Christian.

IIRC, the Japanese classify Judaism and Islam as related to each other, but Christianity as a distinctly different religion. An interesting observation considering that the Japanese qualify as impartial observers.

In North Africa, when the French overran the place in the 1830s, there was a large Jewish minority that they granted citizenship to in order to help control the place. But there were no Christians there, because the Umayyads stamped it out. This is a telling indication that Islam is more hostile to Christianity than it is to Judaism. (Granted, it's even more hostile to pagan faiths like Hinduism than it is to Christianity, as Pakistan demonstrates, but that's cold comfort.)

Anonymous Sam the Man January 28, 2017 1:12 PM  

Well I found that fellow on the video to be an idiot, and anyone who thinks like him is an idiot, hostile to the west or deluded. Any yes, he was not assimilated.

The source was RT, I do not trust them, it might be anti-Jewish propaganda. if it is not, well the guy is spitting in the face of the societies that have given them refuge.

NO Defense of that.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 1:16 PM  

Someone like Richard Spencer who doesn't mind a little unfavorable media attention needs to start asking why Jews are the only group in the United States immune from the doctrine of disparate impact.

Look at the numbers of Jews in certain industries. Why no disparate impact in college admissions? Why no affirmative action? Doesn't it violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Doesn't that violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment if disparate impact doesn't apply? Isn't that racist discrimination?

I'm serious. Are there any Spencerites here? You need to do this. Make them publicly debate you on this issue. Be nitpicking argumentative lawyers about it. Say we need a 'national conversation' about 'privilege.'

Blogger SixtusVIth January 28, 2017 1:16 PM  

Two important points need to be made about this:

1.) This is NOTHING new - The Jews were routinely accused of aiding Muslim invaders throughout the Middle Ages. According to The Jew as Ally of the Muslim: Medieval Roots of Anti-Semitism this perception was THE key factor in condensing 'prejudice' against Jews. You'll note that the 'prejudice' is actually an empirically supportable behavioral profile. Daniel Pipes reviewed the book briefly here:

http://www.danielpipes.org/33/the-jew-as-ally-of-the-muslim-medieval-roots-of-anti

Quotes:

Second - and this is the heart of the Cutlers' study - Jews were seen as close associates of Muslims. There was some justice to this view: the Hebrew language shares much with Arabic, and Judaism shares much with Islam; on the most abstract level, both are religions of law, while Christianity is a religion of faith. More specifically, they share many features such as circumcision, dietary regulations, and similar sexual codes. Further, because the Muslims were preeminent in the medieval centuries, "Jews themselves associated Jew with Muslim." When this became known among the Christians, it much harmed the Jews' position. Most damaging of all, Jews on occasion helped Muslim troops against Christians (as in the initial Arab conquest of Spain) and some Jews held prominent positions in Muslim governments at war with the Christians. Even when they did not actually take part in the fighting, "Jews usually rejoiced when Christian territory fell into Islamic hands."

Since the rise of Islam, the primary (though by no means the only) factors in the history of anti-Semitism have been the following: the association of Jew with Muslim, the longstanding European tendency to equate the Jew, of Middle Eastern origin, with the Muslim, also of Middle Eastern origin; the intensely held Christian feeling that the Jew was an ally of, and in league with, his ethnoreligious cousin the Muslim against the West; the deep-seated Christian apprehension that the Jew, the internal Semitic alien, was working hand in hand with the Muslim, the external Semitic enemy, to bring about the eventual destruction of Indo-European Christendom.



2.) Jews do this because "Judaism" comes from the same time and place as Islam, and they come from the same broad ethnic stock - the religion of Judaism is NOT based on the Old Testament, but on a tradition of extremely selective commentary upon the OT that accumulated over centuries and in which the later interpreters have authority over the former. The keystone of this tradition is the Babylonian Talmud, which was codified between 500 and 700 - centuries AFTER the Crucifixtion and the later Fall of the Second Temple (70 AD) but quite near in time to the alleged lifetime of Muhammad. Also note that the region in which the Bab. Talmud was codified, roughly the heartland of contemporary Iraq, was one of the first regions to fall under Muslim rule and had previously been rife with various heretical forms of Christianity that had been condemned by the Church for errors, most of which involved denying the divinity of Jesus just as Islam does today. Islam is best thought of as a continuation of those heresies rather than a new religion - and Talmudic Judaism is a cousin to it in origin and spirit.

Everything old is new again.

Blogger Johnny January 28, 2017 1:21 PM  

Along with similarities in religion, going by race theory stuff one would also expect them to get along. Except when the word is used selectively for Jews, they are fellow semites. Two closely related populations.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 1:21 PM  

Disparate Impact is basically a conspiracy by leftist Jewish lawyers to oppress Whites and Asians and lift up their black and brown political allies.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 28, 2017 1:26 PM  

The God-Emperor's ban on visas for 7 muslim nations already having an effect. Google panicked about it's employees who are travelling not being able to get back into the US. An immigration lawyer was quoted

"No one is really sure whether a green card holder from these seven countries can return to the U.S. now. It’s fairly clear that an H-1B visa holder can’t"

Not tired of winning yet.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 1:27 PM  

Ya know, the testimony of one Jew may or may not be dispositive of the inclinations of all Jews.

Pretty much. Especially a rabbi who was allowed to appear on the rabidly anti-Israel, anti-Jewish RT. Gee...you think they might have an agenda there?!

Do you know how remarkably easy it would be to find instances of Christian priests saying the exact same thing about their Muslim "brothers"?

Oh hey, how about the most powerful Christian in the entire world?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34960971

Pope Francis: 'Christians and Muslims are brothers and sisters'

So should I logically include all Christians as enemies, to be expatriated from any nations where other religions or secular power holds sway?

Anywho, I'm not even sure what Vox is proposing. "Old Europe" only has about 1 million Jews remaining on the continent, and it grows smaller every year. Repatriation has largely been accomplished, and is continuing.

Blogger Bard January 28, 2017 1:34 PM  

He was so excited "Yes, yes, yes".
Wow.

Blogger Servant of the Chief January 28, 2017 1:36 PM  

@64 VFM #7634

I always did find that extremely odd given the savagery the Jews are treated with in the Koran and Islamic law. I know they have 'People of the Book' status but so do Christians. Is it a semitic thing though? Muslims have absolutely NO sympathies for non-arab semitics who aren't muslim so why do Jews get a pass so often when Christians don't?

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 1:38 PM  

Pretty much. Especially a rabbi who was allowed to appear on the rabidly anti-Israel, anti-Jewish RT. Gee...you think they might have an agenda there?!

Your entire comment is an attempt to change the subject. You haven't condemned or criticized the rabbi, or indicated that you regard him as an enemy in any way. Are you on his side or are you on the side of Western Civilization?

Do you know how remarkably easy it would be to find instances of Christian priests saying the exact same thing about their Muslim "brothers"?

Yes. We call them cucks and Churchians, and attack them relentlessly. We know they are the enemy. Where can we read all of your attacks on this rabbi and other Jews who share his opinion?

So should I logically include all Christians as enemies, to be expatriated from any nations where other religions or secular power holds sway?

Expatriated from their own nations? It is the nation that matters, not the "secular power" that is nothing more than the agent answerable to the nation. The amazing thing is that your reaction is to leap to the defense of this man and minimize his words. Do you really not understand that you are accomplishing EXACTLY the opposite of what you are trying to do?

Anywho, I'm not even sure what Vox is proposing.

I'm not proposing anything. I am merely observing. It is certainly informative.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 28, 2017 1:38 PM  

Do you know how remarkably easy it would be to find instances of Christian priests saying the exact same thing about their Muslim "brothers"?

@71 SteelPalm
The difference is, "Pope" Francis and other such Churchians are shitty Christians, assuming they're actually Christians at all. (Pope Urban of "Deus vult!" fame would certainly be skeptical of Francis' orthodoxy.) I'm not sure that rabbi is a shitty Jew. If orthodox rabbis talk like this fellow, we can be certain that Judaism itself believes this way.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 1:42 PM  

Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council

http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=7oJILSPwFfJSG&b=9302337&ct=14938217&notoc=1

The Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council, a new national group of leading Muslim and Jewish Americans, was launched this month at a meeting convened by the American Jewish Committee (AJC) and the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).

The Council brings together recognized business, political, and religious leaders in the Jewish and Muslim American communities to jointly advocate on issues of common concern.

The initial members of the Muslim-Jewish Advisory Council are:

Ms. Raheemah Abdulaleem, KARAMAH
Ms. Shakila Ahmad, Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati
Chaplain Tahera Ahmad, Northwestern University
Imam Shamsi Ali, Nusantara Foundation
Ms. Roberta Baruch, AJC Commission on Interreligious Affairs
Mr. Stanley M. Bergman, Henry Schein Inc.
Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, Central Synagogue
Ms. Rabia Chaudry, United States Institute of Peace
Senator Norman Coleman, Hogan Lovells
Mr. Steven Collis, AmerisourceBergen
Rabbi Joshua Davidson, Congregation Emanu-El of the City of New York
Ambassador Stuart E. Eizenstat, Covington & Burling LLP
Imam Plemon El-Amin, World Pilgrims
Mr. David Harris, AJC
Mr. S.A. Ibrahim, Radian Group
Congressman Steven Israel, United States House of Representatives
Mr. Farooq Kathwari, Ethan Allen Interiors
Mr. Suhail Khan, Microsoft Corporation
Ms. Daisy Khan, Women's Islamic Initiative for Spirituality & Equality (WISE)
Mr. Farhan Latif, El-Hibri Foundation
Mr. David Levin, McGraw Hill Education
Mr. Moses Libitzky, Libitzky Property Companies
Senator Joseph Lieberman, Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
Dr. Deborah E. Lipstadt, Emory University
Imam Mohamed Magid, All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS)
Mr. Talat Othman, Grove Financial, Inc.
Rabbi Yehuda Sarna, New York University
Rabbi Julie Schonfeld, the Rabbinical Assembly
Imam Talib M. Shareef, The Nation’s Mosque, Masjid Muhammad
Dr. Sayyid Syeed, ISNA
Rabbi David Wolpe, Sinai Temple, Los Angeles


Not just a Russian plot from RT.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 28, 2017 1:42 PM  

I always did find that extremely odd given the savagery the Jews are treated with in the Koran and Islamic law. I know they have 'People of the Book' status but so do Christians. Is it a semitic thing though? Muslims have absolutely NO sympathies for non-arab semitics who aren't muslim so why do Jews get a pass so often when Christians don't?

@73 Servant of the Chief
I think it has to do with the dogma of the Trinity. Muslims, being the low-IQ folk they are, think we worship three gods. Judaism has a higher status among Muslims than Christianity because of that.

Blogger SixtusVIth January 28, 2017 1:43 PM  

@73 Is it a semitic thing though? Muslims have absolutely NO sympathies for non-arab semitics who aren't muslim so why do Jews get a pass so often when Christians don't?

Islam regards "shirk" (roughly = "idolatry") as the worst sin, and Christian conceptions of the Trinity, and esp. the Godhood of Christ, qualify as far as they are concerned. Cf my comments about @67 about Islam's probably descent from older heresies that denied the divinity of Christ. From the Muslim POV Judaism is "mostly Islam, with a weird outdated Koran and no urge to proselytize or engage in jihad"; that's not unproblematic, but from their vantage point it is exponentially less bad than what Christianity is about.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 1:44 PM  

Ya know, the testimony of one Jew may or may not be dispositive of the inclinations of all Jews.

Pinchas Goldschmidt is the Chief Rabbi of Moscow and the President of the Conference of European Rabbis is the primary Orthodox rabbinical alliance in Europe. "It unites more than 700 religious leaders of the mainstream synagogue communities in Europe. The conference is designed to defend the religious rights of Jews in Europe, and has become the voice of Judaism for the European continent."

That is literally the voice of Judaism in Europe. It is, by its own declaration, the enemy of Europe.

Any Jew who stands with him and his Muslim brothers is your declared enemy, Tom, and the avowed enemy of Jesus Christ.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 1:50 PM  

I think it has to do with the dogma of the Trinity. Muslims, being the low-IQ folk they are, think we worship three gods.

It's not the low IQ, because many Jews agree with them, and consider Christians who believe in the Trinity to be breaking the First Commandment.

Churchians say we all worship the same God no matter what beliefs we hold about who He is; Jews and Muslims disagree.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 1:50 PM  

the guy is spitting in the face of the societies that have given them refuge. NO Defense of that.

You should explain to your fellow Jews what is likely going to happen then, and who is responsible. And tell them no more of this "dindu nuffin" bullshit, given that the voice of Judaism in Europe has openly declared it is fighting alongside Islam against Europe.

Just speak the fucking truth! How do so many of you not understand that constantly shading it based on whether the truth is "good for the Jews" or not at the moment is not, in the long run, good for you?

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 1:53 PM  

@74

Your entire comment is an attempt to change the subject. You haven't condemned or criticized the rabbi, or indicated that you regard him as an enemy in any way. Are you on his side or are you on the side of Western Civilization?

OF COURSE this rabbi is an enemy. This is so blindingly obvious it doesn't even have to be stated. Anyone with such a suicidal mentality, allying with one's worst enemy, is an enemy himself. And no, I don't share his views about Old Europe either, which I've mentioned to you at length in our e-mails as recently as a few weeks ago.

If you look at this place, there are relatively few comments criticizing or condemning Barack Obama. Way fewer than at a garden-variety conservative site. Why is that? Because it would be stating the obvious.

Yes. We call them cucks and Churchians, and attack them relentlessly. We know they are the enemy. Where can we read all of your attacks on this rabbi and other Jews who share his opinion?

Only in dozens upon dozens of instances in the comments here? Hell, I have even LINKED to writings where lots of other Jews condemn rabbis like this, both in an article and the comments.

I can link to dozens of videos where a hundred rabbis say the exact opposite of the guy in the RT video.

Apparently, none of that makes any impression, though.

The amazing thing is that your reaction is to leap to the defense of this man and minimize his words.

Except that wasn't my reaction at all. (Or do you think that was Tom Kratman's reaction, too?)

@75

I'm not sure that rabbi is a shitty Jew.

He is, very much so. But apparently this one rabbi is more indicative of the average Jew than the Pope is of the average Christian, huh?

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 1:58 PM  

82. SteelPalm

But apparently this one rabbi is more indicative of the average Jew than the Pope is of the average Christian, huh?

I thought that the average Jew voted left? That is certainly the case in the USA. Is that not the same in Europe?

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 2:04 PM  

OF COURSE this rabbi is an enemy. This is so blindingly obvious it doesn't even have to be stated. Anyone with such a suicidal mentality, allying with one's worst enemy, is an enemy himself. And no, I don't share his views about Old Europe either, which I've mentioned to you at length in our e-mails as recently as a few weeks ago.

Good. I'm glad that you're able to come right out and state that. As I said, I don't think you grasp the way your first reaction looks to the average individual who is horrified by the guy.

But apparently this one rabbi is more indicative of the average Jew than the Pope is of the average Christian, huh?

Rhetoric here, of all places? Yes, it certainly appears that way, especially in light of the way that Jews inordinately support multiculturalism and oppose nationalism. There are hundreds of comments on this blog alone attacking that idiot Argentine. John C. Wright is about the only person on this blog who is willing to defend the man.

I'm glad you and Sam oppose him. I suspect Moshe Feiglin and Zehut would as well; I don't recall Moshe saying anything about Amsterdam or Moscow belonging to the Jewish nation; he limited his claims to Judea-Samaria. But I also suspect that the majority of Jews in Europe and the USA tend to agree with him.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 2:04 PM  

@83

Don't know about Europe, since we're talking about a million Jews scattered across 45 countries. I would be interested to find out, actually. (My guess is more right-wing than US Jews, but more left-wing than Israeli Jews)

But in Israel, while the media, universities, and courts are taken over by the Left, the average citizen votes reliably right-wing. That extends to their beliefs about politics outside of the country, too; http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/07/donald-trump-israel-poll/

As for you finding a Jewish-Muslim group, it's extraordinarily easy to find Christian-Muslim coalitions, too;

http://www.acommonword.com/national-muslim-christian-initiative-in-north-america-launched/

‘A Common Word’ in the News

National Muslim-Christian Initiative in North America launched

http://www.thecmcg.org/

The Christian-Muslim Consultative Group (The CMCG) was formed in 2006 to bring together Christian and Muslim communities to better understand each other and address issues of common concern. Our members represent leadership in the mainline Christian denominations and several of the largest and most influential Muslim communities and organizations in Southern California.

Anonymous Dave January 28, 2017 2:04 PM  

Old habits die hard. For the ~1800 years that the Jews did not have a homeland, they survived by kissing up to whichever non-Jew seemed most inclined to exterminate them. So their worst enemies are their best friends and vice versa. Sort of like women in the ghetto selecting the most violent men as boyfriends.

Anonymous Nazi Puncher January 28, 2017 2:12 PM  

Holy Christ, Vox, what the fuck is happening to you? You are going full on anti-Semite. In a few months we will be punching you as a Nazi...

As a wise person once said, “Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.”

You're breaking our hearts, you're going down a path I can't follow...

Read this post by John C. Wright. Then read it again. Then read it 3 times or however many times you need to cure yourself of full-on Nazism:

http://www.scifiwright.com/2017/01/and-the-rage-within-me-spoke/

The old Jew pointed at me and asked me “Why do you think this could not happen here?”
And the rage within me spoke:

Because I will rise up with my rifle and take the life of anyone who tries such a thing here…


Understand we mean it when we say Never Again.

The Bible makes it very clear that Racial prejudice, anti-Semitism, or hatred of anyone with different beliefs has no place in the human mind or heart. Hate is not a conservative value.

To quote Harry Potter, "These are dark times, there is no denying."

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 2:12 PM  

"Any Jew who stand up..."

No problem, but until they do, I am disinclined to lump them together. Oh, and grandiose titles usually carry considerably less clout or value than the de facto owners of the orgnizations bearing the titles have.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 2:14 PM  

@84

Rhetoric here, of all places? Yes, it certainly appears that way, especially in light of the way that Jews inordinately support multiculturalism and oppose nationalism.

I've noted before that Jews in the US and Jews in Israel, each numbering about 6.5 million, have evolved in utterly divergent manners, and that the multiculturalism and anti-nationalism is a quality of the former, not the latter.

I can't say anything about the views on nationalism of the remaining European Jews, especially since their communities are so small and fractured.

But I can guarantee most of them would disagree with calling the Muslims their "brothers", nor do they have such animus towards "Old Europe", as they chose to stay instead of immigrating to Israel or the US.

There are hundreds of comments on this blog alone attacking that idiot Argentine.

And how many of those comments claim his beliefs extend to all Christians?

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 2:15 PM  

@85 SteelPalm:

"But in Israel ... the average citizen votes reliably right-wing..."

So what does that prove? In their own country they're right-wing because they're voting their own national interest. When they live in someone else's country they vote reliably left-wing because they see the host society as an enemy. And again, they're voting what they see as their national self-interest. I think you've missed the point entirely.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 2:26 PM  

87. Nazi Puncher

The Bible makes it very clear that Racial prejudice, anti-Semitism, or hatred of anyone with different beliefs has no place in the human mind or heart.

'Noticing' reality does not mean hate, though it can.

As for not hating those with different beliefs in the bible.

Deuteronomy 20:18 “But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the LORD your God has commanded you, so that they may not teach you to do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 2:33 PM  

@90

So what does that prove? In their own country they're right-wing because they're voting their own national interest. When they live in someone else's country they vote reliably left-wing because they see the host society as an enemy. And again, they're voting what they see as their national self-interest. I think you've missed the point entirely.

You've missed the point, idiot. They're not the same peoples.

Would you be shocked to learn that white Russians and white Americans have different political views? Or white Swedes think differently than white Poles? No?

Then why would you be surprised to learn this is so of American Jews and Israeli Jews, especially since they have less in common racially than American whites have with Russian whites?

As for your other argument, that's why I gave an example of Israeli Jews overwhelmingly supporting a right-wing candidate (Donald Trump) from a different country, not their own.

Predictably, you didn't even click the click.

Anonymous BBGKB January 28, 2017 2:37 PM  

do you suspect that the Jews will gradually drift to Isreal now that the west is slowly beginning to reject them

I think it will take a gas that sinks in normal air that permeates their bunkers to get them out.

Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, is absolutely correct. Europe's Jews belong in Israel

Bibi said French religious jews should come as soon as possible by boat & plain, but secular jews should wait for the trains.

Not all Jews are like that. Did you see MILO arguing against whiteness so he can keep his slaves.

Vox, what the fuck is happening to you? You are going full on anti-Semite. In a few months we will be punching you as a Nazi

In Vox's story The Hobjews of Wiccam Fensboro, about Goblins protecting the Hobjews in the attic, the Slayer Slayer orks were still noble enough to knowingly go to their deaths to defend what they believed in.

"But in Israel ... the average citizen votes reliably right-wing..." So what does that prove?

That they know they can't jew other jews. All of the scams have not changed since Martin Luther wrote a book of them.

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 2:40 PM  

For anyone who thinks this discussion is just about this video, it's not. It's not just this one data point. It's years of listening to Jon Stewart and Noam Chomsky and a lot of others. Do you really need a list of names? It's a very long list. It's years of making excuses for them and saying to yourself "They're like that because they're leftist - it has nothing to do with their ethnicity." Most of us were barely even aware of their ethnicity.

But here's the problem. Leftism is just an excuse to rationalize their essentially ethnocentric viewpoint of hatred and hostility for their host society. They like stirring up hostility against white people. It's just sublimated aggression.

They think like this because they have a siege mentality; A strong sense of identity and and arrogant belief that they're 'god's chosen people.' The rest flows from this as natural human tribal psychology. They just dress up their hostility as bitchy self-righteousness. They even lie to themselves about why they do it. It's very Jewish. Look at the Old Testament prophets screeching and posturing. Other societies of that era don't act like that. There's nothing like that in The Iliad or The Odyssey. The practically invented virtue-signaling. It's just sublimated aggression. People see through it. People are sick of it. That's what we're really discussing here.

You'd think a people who lived so long as a diaspora would learn to stop antagonizing their hosts.

If you think a multi-cultural society can work, if you want it to work, we need to discuss this openly. Because widespread Jewish hostility to the rest of the culture is very real. I know it's not 100% but so what? Do I really need to point that out?

It's their cultural attitudes and identity politics and the press stirring up a sense of victimhood in a vicious feedback loop. We could get into the causes if you want. But what really matters is that the behavior stops.

Stop fucking acting like people are Nazis just for pointing this out.

Blogger Wanderer January 28, 2017 2:40 PM  

Nazi Puncher wrote:Holy Christ, Vox, what the fuck is happening to you? You are going full on anti-Semite. In a few months we will be punching you as a Nazi...

How can someone be a Nazi if they oppose atheism and socialism?

Anonymous Adam Axe January 28, 2017 2:40 PM  

"Predictably, you didn't even click the click."

Because these goys are all pussies. As Loren Feldman demonstrated, you could go up to most of these clowns on the street, slap them in the face, call them a "dumb goy" and they won't do shit. Oh, they will send you oven memes on the interwebs. But in the real world, total cowards.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 2:50 PM  

What are you doing ? This is a non intelligent strategy against people that have in group preferences and tell our women that we are the enemy ? Stop giving them ammo

Blogger Sheila4g January 28, 2017 2:53 PM  

@85 Steel Palm: "As for you finding a Jewish-Muslim group, it's extraordinarily easy to find Christian-Muslim coalitions, too . . . "

Why do you immediately resort to Tu Quoque instead of addressing the initial argument? Why do you immediately go on the defense? Is everything that, to you, is self evident, to be presumed by the entire readership?

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 28, 2017 2:54 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:
People who object to "ovening" memes need to be locked in a room watching an endless loop of Goldschmitt, Barbara Lerner, Susan Sontag, Chuck Schumer, etc.

Related - over at a thread at Sailer's blog a few days ago regarding Indians as the latest SJWs, a commenter noted that at least one had turned and bitten his enablers:

"My favorite here is Preet Bharara. Harvard, Columbia Law, his way paved by multi-cult fanatical Jews. Give that seat to an Indian, not some flyover white guy! And then he goes and starts investigating Jewish hedge fund managers. That’s the thanks you get!

And my favorite of all: “During his first year in office, Bharara charged 17 managers and employees of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims for defrauding Germany 42.5 million dollars by creating thousands of false benefit applications for people who have not suffered in the Holocaust. The fraud which has been going on for 16 years was related to the 400 million dollars which Germany pays out each year to Holocaust survivors.”

How many "survivors" can there be 70 years later? Do their kids and grandkids get the $ in perpetuity? Does it ever end?


No, it never does end. It's their nature. Hard-wired. One way or another, they will be leaving when enough of their victims wake up to what has been going on. If they had common sense (which seems to be greatly lacking in many), they'd take the hint and go make Israel great again. They can leave in planes or on boats in luxury. In the EUSSR they can even take a train (gasp) - which would be very fine indeed. That's only for some though. Stripping of citizenship, seizure of assets and forced deportation to Israel is completely justified even now. That would be the reasonable response.

Reasonable responses being rare, I expect things will deteriorate until those still around will be departing in body bags, though use as swine fodder probably would be more appropriate. The response from the Kosher quarter will be same as always (it never changes in substance - only endless variants on the same obnoxious theme): Rabbi Genocide doesn't speak for all of the tribe - just like ADL, $PLC, ACLU, Soros, Specter, Wise, Ignatiev, etc. Never hear of any of the tribe denouncing any of them - not even Soros who worked for the Nazis. As already noted, when someone consistently identifies themselves as an enemy - in words and deeds - over and over again over centuries, it's incredibly stupid not to take their word for it. But, do keep in mind VD's long-standing aphorism: MPAI. Far too many in Amurika still believe in the new improved trinity: Mother Femen, Judeo-Christ, and Golden Dindu. They would never have gotten away with half the crap they have were it not for our own sell-outs and idiots who swallow lies. Even if one accepts the one-standard deviation claim (all backed up by the best Jewish scientists and peer-reviewed by kosher kommittee) it fails to account for the sheer level of criminality. As mentioned above, they are what they are. Hard-wired. I suspect the best strategy is to the weak links in the chain of slavery - their Judeo-Christian worshippers and enablers - and more scales will fall from blinded eyes.

Anonymous Hesiod January 28, 2017 2:56 PM  

In Vox's story The Hobjews of Wiccam Fensboro, about Goblins protecting the Hobjews in the attic, the Slayer Slayer orks were still noble enough to knowingly go to their deaths to defend what they believed in.

Me thinking dat despite being me German and you being Italian, we being friends, Bextor. Me allus say if you be German, you be one damn good Nazi. So, me sorry saying me not bringing you Italians when we march tomorrow.

Anonymous A. German January 28, 2017 3:00 PM  

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 3:02 PM  

I've noted before that Jews in the US and Jews in Israel, each numbering about 6.5 million, have evolved in utterly divergent manners, and that the multiculturalism and anti-nationalism is a quality of the former, not the latter.

I have noticed that I get along great with Israelis and not at all with most diaspora Jews. I've also noticed the contempt that many Israelis have for diaspora Jews.

Holy Christ, Vox, what the fuck is happening to you? You are going full on anti-Semite. In a few months we will be punching you as a Nazi...

As a wise person once said, “Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.”

You're breaking our hearts, you're going down a path I can't follow...


If defending America, Western civilization, and Christianity is Nazi, then I'll put on the Swastika panties without hesitation. If you're opposed to America, Western civilization, and Christianity, then you're already the enemy.

Read this post by John C. Wright. Then read it again. Then read it 3 times or however many times you need to cure yourself of full-on Nazism.

I laughed out loud when I read that. John is a great writer. But John is emotional and romantic about Jews because he is married to, as he says, the daughter of one. Is John going to war for Judeo-Christ against America, Jesus, and the West? I very much doubt it.

Understand we mean it when we say Never Again.

You morons have already laid the groundwork to ENSURE it will happen again. And it will happen again and again because you are hard-hearted and refuse to humble yourselves before the Son of God. I suggest you read Revelation if you think it won't happen again.

The Bible makes it very clear that Racial prejudice, anti-Semitism, or hatred of anyone with different beliefs has no place in the human mind or heart. Hate is not a conservative value.

You're a terrible liar. "The fear of the LORD is to hate evil."

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian January 28, 2017 3:03 PM  

Vox Day is always stalking me. If this doesn't stop I am going to need a court order /s:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/no-more-cucking-cucky/#comment-206977

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian January 28, 2017 3:05 PM  

For @87 ( original from https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/no-more-cucking-cucky/ )

And, who, has historically been accused of opening the gates in Spain to allow the Muslim Moors into the cities to conquer the Spanish?

Was the Spanish Inquisition just another bout of crazy antisemites being crazy? Or, perhaps, were there traitors among the Spanish that needed to sought out to protect their country from enemies within?

No, no, no goys, do not be fooled into being an antisemite. It is never the Jews responsible for people having negative feelings about them. Whites are just a bunch or racists.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian January 28, 2017 3:07 PM  

@87 continued

They really hate you and your kin that much. So much so, they will stand in solidarity with muslims to flood your countries and the countries of your peoples with an alien invasion force that wishes to destroy your religion, your (muh) constitution (R.I.P.), rape your wife and daughters, and kill you after you watch.

WTF? is wrong with these people. They claim it is the white, christian, heterosexual, man that hates. We offered them sanctuary in our country, from all of the other 109 countries that kicked them out. Our fathers/grandfathers liberated them from the death (or just work?) camps. And now this is how they see us. They teach hate through how they feel about us and what they do to us.

“My grandfathers did not fight the Nazis so that they could call me Nazi for thinking and believing like my grandfathers.”

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 28, 2017 3:15 PM  

Vermithrax Pejorative wrote:
Someone like Richard Spencer who doesn't mind a little unfavorable media attention needs to start asking why Jews are the only group in the United States immune from the doctrine of disparate impact.


I don't claim to be a Spencerite, and he clearly does not have the skill set needed to handle the media. That's just a cold observation of reality as I see it. Nevertheless, any characterizations of Spencer as a Nazi - or even someone who just hates Jews in general - is false. I note with interest that InfoGalactic refers to him as a "white-supremacist" - which strikes me as a propaganda term rather than a description of his positions. As far as I know he does not favor whites re-establishing their colonial empires from over a century ago (which would be actual white supremacism), just endorses the 14 words. That's the trouble with SJW and Marxoid taking over definitions of terms.

At any rate, the infamous NPI "Nazi" event featured at least one Jewish speaker (Paul Gottfried), and Spencer's Radix site recently ran a very interesting QA interview with a couple of Jews who might serve as a kind of Jewish alt-right. Radix has seen some improvement in the quality of articles in the past few months, so maybe that's a direction Spencer should be thinking of. He could probably stand to get some Dark-Lord consulting too.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 3:16 PM  

@94

They think like this because they have a siege mentality; A strong sense of identity and and arrogant belief that they're 'god's chosen people.' The rest flows from this as natural human tribal psychology. They just dress up their hostility as bitchy self-righteousness. They even lie to themselves about why they do it. It's very Jewish.

It's funny when those too stupid to even differentiate between American Jews and Israeli Jews are such experts on the inner psychology and motivation of all Jews. A race famous for squabbling and disagreeing among themselves about every social, political, and religious issue imaginable. (Even slightly moreso than whites)

You know what you sound like? A dindu from the ghetto ranting about white people.

Look at the Old Testament prophets screeching and posturing.

Great data point. I guess you hate the Bible, then?

@102 VD I have noticed that I get along great with Israelis and not at all with most diaspora Jews. I've also noticed the contempt that many Israelis have for diaspora Jews.

EXACTLY the same for me. I have written as much here several times. I feel like I have nothing in common with the vast majority of American Jews and get along very poorly with them. However, I have a lot in common with, and am good friends with many fellow Russian Jews as well as Israeli Jews.

Anonymous Hesiod January 28, 2017 3:25 PM  

But John is emotional and romantic about Jews because he is married to, as he says, the daughter of one.

Which is why Mr. Wright allowed a certain Portuguese take a big ol' steaming dump at the end of Forbidden Thoughts. A fine collection of tales ruined by the turd at the end.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 3:31 PM  

The war effected my family negatively. Thank you (as a non-Jew)

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 3:32 PM  

@99

Never hear of any of the tribe denouncing any of them

So I guess literally HUNDREDS of articles on FrontPageMagazine and Breitbart (nevermind all the major Israeli newspapers) denouncing Soros, the ACLU, the ADL, etc. don't count?

You're either a liar or an idiot. Probably both.

Stripping of citizenship, seizure of assets and forced deportation to Israel is completely justified even now.

Yeah, Iraq did that in 1951. How did that work out for them?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-expulsion-that-backfired-when-iraq-kicked-out-its-jews/

How has it worked out for any country in history that has tried it? Exceptionally poorly, and it seems to get worse and worse each time.

I agree with Vox that "never again" is wrong; it will happen again and again in one form or another.

But it's a double-edged sword every single time. Recall that about 55 million whites were killed during WW2, many European countries were utterly devastated, and it caused the long-term decline of Europe lasting until the present.

How any self-respecting white can support that, just on the basis of self-preservation, is beyond me.

But many actually cheer the mass extermination of their own white people and white civilization, in exchange for managing to kill a far smaller number of Jews.

Jews are self-destructive in many ways. But so too are whites.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 3:34 PM  

107. SteelPalm

A race famous for squabbling and disagreeing among themselves about every social, political, and religious issue imaginable.

Muslims do that too.

That doesn't translate to the various groups being our friend.

I like Israelis a lot better than overseas Jews as well. They tend to look out for themselves on their own ground and I am fine with that.

I think a large part of the animosity to the Jews is the Jewish/leftist undermining and hostility to the west being returned. There is also a lot of hostility from leftists themselves towards Jews as their alliance with the Muslims grows. Some of that hostility or suspicion is transferred to Israel itself for obvious reasons. There is also the leftist sympathy towards the historic Muslim animosity towards Jews in general and Israel in particular.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 3:40 PM  

How has it worked out for any country in history that has tried it? Exceptionally poorly, and it seems to get worse and worse each time.

That's not true. It worked out great for Spain, England, and most of the European countries on that long list of expulsions. Spain became the wealthiest power in the world after expelling the Jews.

Recall that about 55 million whites were killed during WW2, many European countries were utterly devastated, and it caused the long-term decline of Europe lasting until the present.

That has very little to do with the Jews. There were a LOT of problems with German supremacism beyond their anti-Semitism. It's not as if Japan invaded China, or Italy invaded Ethiopia, because they hated Jews.

But many actually cheer the mass extermination of their own white people and white civilization, in exchange for managing to kill a far smaller number of Jews.

That's ludicrously solipsistic. The Franks and Germans were killing each other even before the sons and brothers of Charlemagne were disputing the imperial inheritance.

Most events really don't concern a small nation of 12-15 million people at all.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 28, 2017 3:41 PM  

@SixtusVIth
Everything old is new again.

So it is. And those who fail to learn history are likewise condemned to repeat the errors of their ancestors. I wonder just how many of the millions of good Christian folk out in the hinterlands of the USA who voted for Trump would even have a clue as to what your post was about? 2% if that? As I failed to state completely in my previous post. The weakest bricks in this whole massive kosher castle of pure coprolite which looms over the earth like the Tower of Babel are the vast herds of clueless victims who help the evil ones every day by digging their own graves as instructed from (((fake media))) and (((other sources))). All lies - 24 x 7 x 365. They lie about the past, the present and the future. There is no truth in them, as it was written long ago.

For those who've not yet read it, there's a great story someone posted at a blog like Spencer's or a similar place (can't remember where I picked it up now), but the interesting thing about the story is that's it's not so much about Jews as it is about the gullible goy's typical response to their endless stream of lies:

I once asked [Grandma], when she came on a visit, what her problem with Jews was. Her answer struck me as Old Lady ranting then, but I have realized since that it is so true as to almost be a mystical Truth.



She said: 

“The Jew will look at a pile of shit and say ‘That’s gold!’ Then, he’ll look at a pile of gold and say ‘That’s shit!’ And then he’ll find ten other Jews to rewrite every book and newspaper within reach until YOU and your kids look at the shit and agree that ‘Yes, shit is gold and gold is shit!’ Then, while you are putting shit in your pockets, he’ll take all the gold and share it with his ten other Jews. It’s their NATURE.”



Her statement is true on so many levels that it blows my mind…. Criminals are victims, victims are criminals, truth is a lie, immoral is moral, shit is gold.

 Oy vey.


What will it take to remove the scales from your eyes, YT?

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 3:43 PM  

110. SteelPalm

How has it worked out for any country in history that has tried it? Exceptionally poorly

The English Edict of Expulsion in 1290 didn't seem to do much harm to England and that lasted for hundreds of years. England did OK.

The Spanish expulsion of 1492 was followed by Spain's rise to predominance.

Not seeing the connections you seem to see.

Do you think that a nation needs Jews to prosper, or is it something else?

Blogger Lazarus January 28, 2017 3:44 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Yeah, Iraq did that in 1951. How did that work out for them?

I believe it worked out the way God intended.



Jeremiah 16:

God will Restore Israel
…15but, 'As the LORD lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them.' For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers. 16"Behold, I am going to send for many fishermen," declares the LORD, "and they will fish for them; and afterwards I will send for many hunters, and they will hunt them from every mountain and every hill and from the clefts of the rocks. 17"For My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their iniquity concealed from My eyes.…

Blogger Silly But True January 28, 2017 3:47 PM  

Jews embrace their historical right to Israel. Let them also embrace their historical right to be more in common with Egyptians and Syrians than Americans or the French: https://infogalactic.com/info/Semitic_people

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 3:52 PM  

When the Spanish took their country back and kicked out the Muslims, they let many Jews stay. That wasn't out of any great feeling of brotherhood; Judeo-Christ wouldn't be invented for many years. In fact, there were strict limits on their actions -- officially -- as was taught by the popes.

The reason was that the kings and nobles of the Reconquista had used Jewish financing and tax-collecting in their centuries-long struggle, so by the time they regained their kingdoms, they were used to depending on Jewish financing and assistance, so they weren't looking to get rid of that. So they soon began to circumvent the rules for the sake of their own Jewish connections. That eventually led to the Spanish Inquisition, and it wasn't until Ferdinand and Isabella finished taking back the peninsula that they realized that wasn't going to work, and the Jews had to go too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar pattern in the US. The expulsion of Muslims from the US began with Trump's order, whether people realize it now or not. There may be no widespread sentiment for expelling Jews, just as there wasn't in Spain at first, but that doesn't mean it's not coming. If it does, I hope we don't have to go through an Inquisition first.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 28, 2017 3:55 PM  

Ok, a few comments here from someone who is by no means neutral on this topic:

1) The more I look into this Rabbi's statement the worse it is. He is in a position of power within Russia's orthodox- conservative community. The very community Putin defends. The very community the Muslims would kill if they had the chance. Dumb, dumb, foolish, biting the hand that protects you or a Russian plant. Something is not right about this.

2) Any Jew or mixed blood in America who is hostile to US Christians is a fellow who has forgotten nothing and learned nothing in all. There has not been a pogrom here in American anytime in 350 years. Jews in America should be loyal citizens of the US and Jewish, that opportunity exists here.

3) VD may say things that at time make me think : A-HHH got you , you Jew hatter...until I analyze his statement at depth and get over the emotional reaction. He is not, he speaks truths that somehow a lot of Jews cannot face. To work for policies that are detrimental to the domestic population but for some vague pro Jewish utopian or utilitarian reason is the height of stupidity and shows lack of maturity or gratefulness.

4) Jews are by no means united in this stupidity: VD once told me to cut this out, and I did but it needs to be said (only once more), Jews all disagree with each other, if you get 2 Jews together, they will have 3 deeply help opinions, all mutually exclusive.

One last thing: Most Jews on a site like this will not attack fellow Jews , not because we agree, but because the entire world seems to hate Jews. If you grow up with that identity, it is hard to look past it on some level, the history of the Jews is not a comfortable one. I very much doubt any Jewish person does not go through an identity crisis at some point in young adulthood where you doubt your place in diaspora nations and ability to become part of the wider world vs. immersion into a totally Jewish sub culture. So one tends not to pile on, even if you are shaking your head, because deep in your heart you suspect the rest of mankind will do it for you.


P.S. I do not claim to speak for any group, just myself and my perception based on my personal observation.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 4:01 PM  

The Spanish expulsion of 1492 was followed by Spain's rise to predominance.

It probably also accounts for how lightly they were affected by the Enlightenment and Reformation. Many of the Jews they expelled went north.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 4:02 PM  

@112 That's not true. It worked out great for Spain, England, and most of the European countries on that long list of expulsions. Spain became the wealthiest power in the world after expelling the Jews.

Disagree strongly about Spain (more below). England is debatable. During the time that they kept Jews expelled, they

-Lost the Hundred Years' War to France.
-Fought a long series of bloody civil wars in the 1400s.
-Had a long series of bloody successions in the 1500s.
-Fought a long series of bloody civil wars in the 1600s and became the first major European nation to behead a king.

Interestingly, when Cromwell invited back the Jews in 1657, they had no more violent civil wars, became the most powerful nation in the world (France was still more powerful in 1657), and built an Empire lasting well until the 20th century. I think most would agree that the high point of English civilization was the 1700s and 1800s.

Again, I don't believe their success was directly the result of Jews. (And I'm an Anglophile, too) Nor am I religious.

Still, simply observing history, the idea that countries/empires are punished for such actions against Jews has merit.

England is, at the very least, debatable on that score.

That has very little to do with the Jews. There were a LOT of problems with German supremacism beyond their anti-Semitism.

Yes and no. It wasn't directly because of the Jews, certainly. However, the other countries of Europe were blinded to the problems of German supremacism since they were so happy that Hitler was finally going to take care of the Jewish problem. Thus, their response was greatly delayed.

That's ludicrously solipsistic.

I was referring to the people today who think Hitler was a great leader to be admired.

@114

The Spanish expulsion of 1492 was followed by Spain's rise to predominance.

Spain was likely the most powerful Empire in the world in 1492. Less than a century later the Armada was destroyed and they entered into a long, sustained period of decline lasting until the present day.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 4:05 PM  

119. Cail Corishev

The Spanish expulsion of 1492 was followed by Spain's rise to predominance.

It probably also accounts for how lightly they were affected by the Enlightenment and Reformation. Many of the Jews they expelled went north.

What an interesting thought. I wonder how much of the Enlightenment we owe to Jewish influence?

Anonymous Germanic January 28, 2017 4:06 PM  

Still, simply observing history, the idea that countries/empires are punished for such actions against Jews has merit.

The Devil takes care of his own. John 8:44

Blogger Avalanche January 28, 2017 4:13 PM  

@57 "But Jews seeing muslims as their 'brothers'? What crazed lunacy is this?"

Well he could hardly have said out loud: "Jews seeing muslims as their weapon against Whites/Christians, as the negro used to be."

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 4:16 PM  

120. SteelPalm

Your attempt to connect the fortunes of nations with the presence of Jews is silly. Nations rise and fall and if you are fine with a hundred year gap before any effect is seen then any connection can be made.

How on earth did the Spanish Armada defeat in 1580 have any connection to the Jewish expulsion and by a nation (England) who ALSO expelled Jews?

Poland had a large Jewish community for a very long time, but has usually been the punching bag of history. Why didn't the magical Jewish effect work there?

Blogger Avalanche January 28, 2017 4:16 PM  

@62 Kratman: "Ya know, the testimony of one Jew may or may not be dispositive of the inclinations of all Jews."

It kinda-sorta IS if not a one of them disclaims it!

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 4:20 PM  

@106 Gen Kong:

RE: Spencer

Yeah I know he's not a Nazi. But anyone who brings these issues up is going to get that label. So why not them since they're stuck with that label anyway?

Blogger praetorian January 28, 2017 4:22 PM  

If you can suck it up, E. Michael Jones' "Jewish Revolutionary Spirit" is a very good read, examining the problem from a spiritual perspective (rather than Kevin MacDonald's group darwininan focus). It's an interesting (heavily catholic) and plausible enough narrative that provides a good counterweight to the whig history we are all taught in the states.

1400 pages. The freemasonry section drags a bit, but it's still interesting.

I wonder how much of the Enlightenment we owe to Jewish influence?

Well, according to E. Michael Jones, quite a bit. And he doesn't mean that in a good way.

Blogger praetorian January 28, 2017 4:24 PM  

How on earth did the Spanish Armada defeat in 1580 have any connection to the Jewish expulsion and by a nation (England) who ALSO expelled Jews?

Enthnocentrism is a hell of a drug...

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 4:27 PM  

127. praetorian

Well, according to E. Michael Jones, quite a bit. And he doesn't mean that in a good way.

I think I am going to put that on my reading list.

Blogger Shimshon January 28, 2017 4:33 PM  

Regarding accusations of anti-Semitism on Vox's part...At this point, I'm surprised no one is accusing him of philo-Semitism. Or, at least, of being philo-Israeli. For all we know, he has his own secret underwear.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 4:34 PM  

@124 Your attempt to connect the fortunes of nations with the presence of Jews is silly.

It's not "my attempt". Do you know who believes the hardest in God punishing those who raise their hands against the Jews? Not Jews, but American Christian friends of mine, including several that read this site regularly, and are the furthest thing from Churchians imaginable.

It has nothing to do with the presence of Jews, either. Japan and China are doing great without any. But their interactions with them have been minimal either way. (A great many, maybe even most Jews would be perfectly happy with such "minimal contact", incidentally)

Also, history moved a lot slower 500 years ago. A century then might be the equivalent of 40 years now.

Expelling/fighting Jews, or allying with various forces that do (whether Germany or the Muslims), never ends well for a nation.

Why else do you think Jews have survived so many thousands of years, despite so many nations and empires (including the most powerful ones in the world at various points) trying to exterminate them? At the same time that many of the peoples once persecuting them have long since died off?

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 4:36 PM  

@107 SteelPalm:

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond to you, but here it goes:

"You know what you sound like? A dindu from the ghetto ranting about white people."

No. I see you. I see you better than you see yourself.

"I guess you hate the Bible, then?"

I'm not religious. Christianity is part of our cultural heritage. What I hate are legalistic attempts by people who hate us to use our Western moral code against us as a weapon.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 4:37 PM  

This thread seems to be about a rabbi being anti Europe... any thought that disagrees must be "ethnocentrism is a hell of a drug"

Good to clear that up

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 4:37 PM  

Spain was likely the most powerful Empire in the world in 1492. Less than a century later the Armada was destroyed and they entered into a long, sustained period of decline lasting until the present day.

You don't know your Spanish history at all. That's utterly absurd. 1492 was the very beginning of the Spanish Empire and it didn't reach its peak until the 17th century. And the Ottoman Empire was clearly the most powerful empire in the world, with the Safavid Empire also being more powerful than the Spanish at the time.

Your premise is not only absurdly solipsistic, it's utterly silly. You should be embarrassed to have even articulated it.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 28, 2017 4:39 PM  

I wonder how much of the Enlightenment we owe to Jewish influence?

I don't know; it's something I've seen hints of but haven't researched yet. It first came up in a discussion of why some evangelican Protestants hold to an odd notion of dispensationalism that turns support of the modern nation of Israel into a dogma. A historian (I'll have to track down the source again) theorized that this was because the Juws who were expelled from Spain were influential in Northern Europe right when the Reformation came along. As I recall, the Puritans were especially influenced by them. But like I said, it's something I need to read more about.

In contrast, Judeo-Christ worship took much longer to infiltrate the Vatican, not taking over until the 1960s with Vatican II.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 4:40 PM  

Expelling/fighting Jews, or allying with various forces that do (whether Germany or the Muslims), never ends well for a nation.

Again, that obviously is not true. See the long list above. Switzerland has not suffered as a result of expelling the Jews in 1348. Nor did Spain, which benefited greatly from expelling them. Nor did England. Nor did Italy.

Your narrative is historically false. It's not even remotely true.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 4:41 PM  

131. SteelPalm

It's not "my attempt". Do you know who believes the hardest in God punishing those who raise their hands against the Jews? Not Jews, but American Christian friends of mine, including several that read this site regularly, and are the furthest thing from Churchians imaginable.

Talmudic Judaism is NOT the faith of the Israelites of the Old Testament.

I don't care if Churchians believe something or not.

It is still silly.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 4:41 PM  

@132

No. I see you. I see you better than you see yourself.

So does the dindu who wants to bash your head in with a brick. He's got whitey all figured out, too.

What I hate are legalistic attempts by people who hate us to use our Western moral code against us as a weapon.

Like Merkel, Theresa May, Stefan Lofven, Hollande, Pope Francis, Justin Trudeau, Obama, and the Clintons, to name a few?

Hmm...seems like a collection of whites, no? Some of whom virulently hate Jews to boot.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 28, 2017 4:42 PM  

Nazi Puncher wrote:Read this post by John C. Wright. Then read it again. Then read it 3 times or however many times you need to cure yourself of full-on Nazism:

Pure, blatant and obvious emotional manipulation. Sorry you're so ruled by your emotions that you think emotional manipulation is an argument. Sad!

Understand we mean it when we say Never Again.

Understand that you're not the only ones who can say that Magic Phrase. Many people have many things they will never tolerate again. Some of those things have even been done, are being done, to our own people.

The Bible makes it very clear that Racial prejudice, anti-Semitism, or hatred of anyone with different beliefs has no place in the human mind or heart.

Chapter and verse, please. Which you won't know, because you're likely not even Christian.
Hate is not a conservative value.
Hate is not itself evil. The Lord, God of Hosts, hates. Scripture tells us so. Christ preached repentance, Judeo Christ preaches equality and niceness.

Blogger Shimshon January 28, 2017 4:43 PM  

@131 SteelPalm, I have heard it said that the Japanese received astonishing blessing post-war due to the merit of giving safe harbor to the Mirrer Yeshiva refugees in Shanghai. But that merit has perhaps dried up.

On the subject, nations may attain great heights from abusing the Jews in their midst, but as you say, it never ends well.

Ultimately, I don't think the voice of some fringe rabbi I have never heard of before (and, solipsistically, I might add, I have a number of European neighbors, so I must poll them to see if they have heard of him and what they think) is going to matter too much to the Jews of Europe. The forces sweeping the continent are MUCH bigger than 1M Jews, mostly scared and not feeling particularly brotherly towards Muslims, wouldn't you say? They might flee, but I have a hard time believing it will be because of government edict. More likely, they'll be unable to protect the Jews, who will flee the increasing threat of violence.

Anonymous surly January 28, 2017 4:47 PM  

Understand we mean it when we say Never Again.

You morons have already laid the groundwork to ENSURE it will happen again. And it will happen again and again because you are hard-hearted and refuse to humble yourselves before the Son of God. I suggest you read Revelation if you think it won't happen again.

That might be a fix if it were possible, but it is not the root of the issue. It will happen because jews have racial narcissistic personality disorder. Highly altruistic and empathetic Europeans are natural targets. Whenever they finally get out from under it, the NPD is adept at hoovering them back in and gaslighting them.

Blogger Avalanche January 28, 2017 4:49 PM  

@130 "For all we know, he has his own secret underwear."

Vox is a Mormon?!

Anonymous Vermithrax Pejorative January 28, 2017 4:50 PM  

@138

"Like Merkel, Theresa May, Stefan Lofven, Hollande, Pope Francis, Justin Trudeau, Obama, and the Clintons, to name a few?"

Yes that's another problem.

And yes, I still see you better than you see yourself.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 28, 2017 4:53 PM  

Switzerland has not suffered as a result of expelling the Jews in 1348. Nor did Spain, which benefited greatly from expelling them. Nor did England. Nor did Italy.

Can we make a subtle distinction between "expelling" Jews and putting them in ovens? I doubt very much if God is horribly offended at the expulsion of Jews who have mucked in the business of sovereign nations (however sticky in practice that process may become), whereas I suspect he is quite offended at mass murder.

Perhaps that little distinction in methodology explains the anomalies Vox points out.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 4:59 PM  

Vox-

I will give you Switzerland. As for the rest, I guess we have a great test case now, don't we? Europe's population of Jews has continuously decreased since 1938, down to a million and still decreasing, so it effectively works the same as expulsion.

I guess we will see how things go, especially for those European nations (France, Sweden) and their globalist organizations (EU, UN) utterly obsessed with condemning and meddling with Israel's sovereign affairs, won't we?

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 28, 2017 5:02 PM  

Very glad to see than Netanyahu, once a vocal critic of Trump's Wall, has come around.

So much winning.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 5:04 PM  

Should also mention that I think there is no future for Jews in Europe. (Since apparently, if the blindingly obvious isn't stated...)

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 28, 2017 5:04 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Yes and no. It wasn't directly because of the Jews, certainly. However, the other countries of Europe were blinded to the problems of German supremacism since they were so happy that Hitler was finally going to take care of the Jewish problem. Thus, their response was greatly delayed.
Speaking of solipcism. Do you even believe this, or are you just throwing it out there to bait the hook? I mean, I always thought you came across as more or less intelligent.

Russia allied with and then made war on Germany because they were going to kill the Jews? Britain, which was terribly under-armed in 1938, and damn near lost their army because of it, delayed war because Germany was going to decide, secretly, some years in the future, to kill Jews?
Franco, desperate for arms and air support allied himself with the only country willing to provide them, because Hitler hated Jews?

Do you even hear yourself talking? That's the straight-up narcissism that people observe in Jews, that you so vociferously deny.
If you can't hear that, it's because you're deaf to it.

Blogger Johnny January 28, 2017 5:06 PM  

Alas, there is some seriously confused history on this board. The actions against Jews came after the Spanish United Monarchy had expelled the Arabs. Part of the reason, no doubt, was that they were deeply in debt from the war. Running Jews off was easier than paying them off, and a not uncommon reason for Jewish expulsions in feudal Europe. On a local level it happened a lot. Plus of course there was support from the Church.

The Jews had to either leave or convert to Christianity. That edict created a large number of phony converts, and that in turn triggered the inquisition. Its purpose being the discovery of the false converts.

On balance the running off of the Jews hurt Spain, not in the formation of the empire, but in the running of it. Jewish bankers in England made it possible for letters of credit (somewhat like a check, only personal to the holder) to be widely used in commerce, thus unlike the Spanish they were not burdened with having to ship precious metals around for payment. It was more or less impossible to benefit from stealing a letter of credit, but gold and silver coinage was welcomed everywhere.

Blogger Kant Leerus January 28, 2017 5:06 PM  

Eh really ? Sweden and French foreign policy set by Moslems and for Moslem interest... so sorry that anti-Israel is something your Moslem brothers desire

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 5:07 PM  

Europe's population of Jews has continuously decreased since 1938, down to a million and still decreasing, so it effectively works the same as expulsion.

We'll see. I tend to think Europe's future depends upon expelling Jews, Muslims, and Africans alike. But I don't think you can count it as an expulsion until a government actually, you know, expels them.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 28, 2017 5:09 PM  

@25 Nick S
It simply is not going to happen. That's the reality and the truth of it. Now what?
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I'm reading a book about the Spanish Inquisition. People find a way to remove agitating influences from their societies.

Blogger Hugo Smith January 28, 2017 5:19 PM  

Well at least SteelPalm defeated the stereotype that all Jews are smart, so there's that.

Anonymous Dan January 28, 2017 5:19 PM  

Most jews believe the Ottoman Empire was their best host, ofc they see muslims as allies.

Blogger Matthew January 28, 2017 5:25 PM  

Do unto others as their holy books tell them to do unto you.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 5:29 PM  

@148

Hate to break it to you, but neither the Soviet Union (not "Russia") nor even Britain was particularly broken up about the plight of the Jews. At best, they didn't give a damn and didn't think it affected them in any way.

For Britain it was more a case of out of sight out of mind, doesn't concern us, although there were no shortage of Nazi supporters. (Edward VIII ring a bell?)

Ergo, aside from Churchill, who was mocked for it, most Britains didn't see a threat from Germany. Neville Chamberlain is unfairly reviled in that regard.

In the Soviet Union's case, I can confirm it was a deeply Jew-hating society and Stalin would later try to set up his own version of the Final Solution. (The Doctors' Plot) So with Stalin it was more than shrugging his soldiers; he was happy about it.

Anywho, there is nothing "narcissistic" in pointing out that Europe didn't see a threat in Hitler because they didn't see anything threatening or wrong in what Hitler was doing to the Jews.

Blogger Johnny January 28, 2017 5:31 PM  

Dan wrote:Most jews believe the Ottoman Empire was their best host, ofc they see muslims as allies.

What surprises me about Jews is that they do not have more of a sense of danger. Arabia is an area where the losers of a war were likely to be annihilated if they did not run off quickly enough. That no doubt is the reason so many of the people who are now called Palestinians fled when the Jews won. Plus there is the normal zealitory of the winning side against the losing side. Long term tolerance does no good unless you get there.

I personally would be modesty surprised if there would be anything but mass killing following a military loss by Israel. That is, most of the population put to the knife. That is, except for the sweet young babes, slave captives, and so on.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 28, 2017 5:32 PM  

@70 Jack Amok

"No one is really sure whether a green card holder from these seven countries can return to the U.S. now. It’s fairly clear that an H-1B visa holder can’t"
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*Breaks out into a Daniel Bryan*
Yes! Yes! Yes!

Blogger Cerdic Ricing January 28, 2017 5:32 PM  

Keeping Jews in my land has led to an invasion of historic proportions and the attempted genocide of my people.

I don't see how any of those proposed terriblep outcomes even remotely compares to the consequence of letting them here.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 28, 2017 5:34 PM  

@71 SteelPalm
So should I logically include all Christians as enemies, to be expatriated from any nations where other religions or secular power holds sway?
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Do you logically conclude that all Christians are Catholics?

Blogger Doom January 28, 2017 5:43 PM  

Not natural allies. He lies even there, dirty secrets and all. The truth is they are kin, and Jews are some of the most nepotistic people on the face of the planet. All people hate their bastard kin, some of them hate them less or a lot less than they hate all the rest is all.

Anonymous BBGKB January 28, 2017 5:50 PM  

If defending America, Western civilization, and Christianity is Nazi, then I'll put on the Swastika panties without hesitation.

Go for the Hugo Boss for style or brownshirts for camouflage

A race famous for squabbling and disagreeing among themselves about every social, political, and religious issue imaginable

I always thought it was just controlled opposition. Have the rightjew argue a strawman argument instead of someone actually wanting to win. I realized long ago that if the Westboro Baptist church was struck down by lighting that Soros would have to hire actors to replace them.

How on earth did the Spanish Armada defeat in 1580 have any connection to the Jewish expulsion and by a nation (England) who ALSO expelled Jews?

(Insert jew downing seamen/semen joke.)

At this point, I'm surprised no one is accusing him of philo-Semitism. Or, at least, of

He wants jews to go to Israel, talk about calling for a pox upon their houses.

Do you even hear yourself talking? That's the straight-up narcissism that people observe in Jews, that you so vociferously deny.If you can't hear that, it's because you're deaf to it.

They shouldn't have make their kool aid and juuuice in the same containers.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 28, 2017 5:51 PM  

Homeland Confirms Trump Immigration Ban Will Include Green-Card Holders & Dual-Nationalities

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/homeland-confirms-trump-immigration-ban-will-include-green-card-holders

Anonymous Gart Williams January 28, 2017 6:03 PM  

These are our lands, not yours. Your people don't belong in Europe. They never did. If Jews and Muslims want to work together, they can do so in the Middle East.

OpenID 6eb4663a-f39a-11e3-aed0-d7d38ec8d6cd January 28, 2017 6:08 PM  

Steelpalm: "In the Soviet Union's case, I can confirm it was a deeply Jew-hating society and Stalin would later try to set up his own version of the Final Solution. (The Doctors' Plot) So with Stalin it was more than shrugging his soldiers; he was happy about it."

"Jews in Russia and the Soviet Union", Andrey Iv. Diky, 1967 includes an extensive table listing hundreds of Politburo members in the 1930's. A large majority (80-90%) are noted as jews (jews comprised 2% of the population btw). It's common knowledge that the Bolshevik revolution was a jewish enterprise both in funding and action. Rosa Luxemberg et al were attempting a similar revolutionary coup in Germany. When the German people resisted being kulaked, world Jewry declared war upon them. With jewish run papers in the US, including the NYT, giving glowing reviews to Theodore Newman Kaufman's "Germany Must Perish".

Yes eventually the Russians tired of the Talmudic noose upon their necks, and purges occurred. Apparently the causative purging of 10's of millions of goyim by the jewish run (brutally so) NKVD prior to that bother you little. Apparently the jews who founded Israel still thought positively about their Russian project. Workers on kibbutz during the 40s and 50s used to openly call for the Red Army to march south for a family reunion.

Never again cuts both ways btw.....

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 6:10 PM  

@125

Are you asking for one to disclaim it? Are you claiming that you know for a certainty that none have? Can you produce however many millions of affadavits it would take to cover all of them? Is your house big enough to hold that many?

I am pretty sure we have at least one Jew here who will. As for the others, how many even know what this loonie said?

Blogger Carl Burgeson January 28, 2017 6:15 PM  

That is succint and awesome. May I borrow that?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 28, 2017 6:22 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Anywho, there is nothing "narcissistic" in pointing out that Europe didn't see a threat in Hitler because they didn't see anything threatening or wrong in what Hitler was doing to the Jews.
Which was not the original assertion:
SteelPalm wrote:However, the other countries of Europe were blinded to the problems of German supremacism since they were so happy that Hitler was finally going to take care of the Jewish problem. Thus, their response was greatly delayed.

"Goys were so overjoyed at Hitler killing Jews they ignored their own interests" is very different from "Goys didn't give a shit about Jews in another country." Even if you believe that we are somehow obligated to give a shit about you, when you wouldn't even defend yourselves.

Not to mention the patently ahistorical assertion that Europe did not see a threat in Hitler. False on it's face and utterly belied by historical events. France, Britain, Poland, Russia, the Low Countries, and Scandinavia all saw the threat, long before the punitive laws against Jews were enacted.
There's also the implied assertion that the threat to other nations in Europe was somehow to be inferred from the threat Hitler posed to Jews in Germany, which is frankly ridiculous. Did Turkey pose a threat to Europe because they killed the Armenians?
Yes, it's narcissism.

Anonymous ReluctantMessiah January 28, 2017 6:26 PM  

Europe and the US make up roughly 20% of the world's population. Open borders would overwhelm the white population.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 6:26 PM  

One notes, parenthetically, that, if the Israelis have two brain cells to rub together between them, they would be very selective indeed about which American or European Jews they let in.

They won't, of course, but the influx of that many liberal Jews, Jews living in a lefty fantasyland, would destroy Israel in a way the Arabs, on their own, are most unlikely to succeed at.

OpenID 6eb4663a-f39a-11e3-aed0-d7d38ec8d6cd January 28, 2017 6:33 PM  

#170 - Tom Kratman
1. See: "dual morality"
2. I can only speak for myself, but my ability to muster concern for my executioner's plight is....hmm....rather low.

Blogger Markku January 28, 2017 6:39 PM  

Regarding The Slogan, if two people are arguing three positions, it means that one of them is talking from both sides of his mouth. I'm unsure how exactly this is expected to put me at ease.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 28, 2017 6:45 PM  

Sam the Man:
One last thing: Most Jews on a site like this will not attack fellow Jews, not because we agree, but because the entire world seems to hate Jews. If you grow up with that identity, it is hard to look past it on some level, the history of the Jews is not a comfortable one. I very much doubt any Jewish person does not go through an identity crisis at some point in young adulthood where you doubt your place in diaspora nations and ability to become part of the wider world vs. immersion into a totally Jewish sub culture. So one tends not to pile on, even if you are shaking your head, because deep in your heart you suspect the rest of mankind will do it for you.

Most of us can kind of understand that. It's certainly a shortcoming but understandable - kind of the downside of tribalism. Israel could do a great favor to restore the rapidly plunging reputations of Jews in general if they put out a warrant for Soros' arrest for collaboration with the Nazis and sued to take all his assets on behalf of Israel. They'd even have folks at Spencer's in amazement. So, while Israel is quite willing to carry out a thoroughly illegal operation to kidnap and execute Eichmann from a sovereign country (Argentina), they'll not even put up any serious opposition to Soros - who is nothing if not the very poster-boy for Bills of Attainder and Letters of Marque and Reprisal. Same old double-standard, as always. Of course when you start to think about it, it's not really a double-standard but a single-standard, which is that YT must die. As noted above, apparently a significant majority hate whites and Christians more than they do either Muslims or traitors amongst their own. Does it apply to every single Jew? Not any more than any general observation applies to every single individual of any given group. The general pattern stands nevertheless.

Anonymous BBGKB January 28, 2017 6:49 PM  

the influx of that many liberal Jews, Jews living in a lefty fantasyland, would destroy Israel in a way the Arabs, on their own, are most unlikely to succeed at

How many of the lefty new Israelis will die off because picking up arab rent boys will be more deadly than NYC homeless? The leftist jews wont be breeding any more than they do in host nations.

Blogger SteelPalm January 28, 2017 6:49 PM  

@168 France, Britain, Poland, Russia, the Low Countries, and Scandinavia all saw the threat, long before the punitive laws against Jews were enacted.

This is false, ahistorical bullshit. And likely a point on that era of history which Vox and I would agree upon.

Again, one need only observe Churchill's stock when he warned about Germany starting in 1933. Parliament laughed at him.

@170

Interesting perspective. On the flip side, a combination of being smacked in the face by reality and secular, leftist Jews having few children while Orthodox, right-wing Jews have many offspring turned a once socialist Israel circa 1950 into the heavily right-wing nation it is today.

But in principle, I agree. Left-wing, globalist American/European Jews should be denied entry to Israel and be forced to suffer the world they favored.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 6:57 PM  

Well...some places that's going to mean gas. And that's why Israel will probably let them in, no matter how suicidal.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 7:01 PM  

"How many of the lefty new Israelis will die off because picking up arab rent boys will be more deadly than NYC homeless?"

Probably not enough to matter, Steve.

Blogger John Williams January 28, 2017 7:06 PM  

Jews & Arabs are both semites.

Anonymous HairyPalm January 28, 2017 7:06 PM  

"Can you produce however many millions of affadavits it would take to cover all of them? Is your house big enough to hold that many?"

Talmudic reply.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 28, 2017 7:09 PM  

Snidely:
Did Turkey pose a threat to Europe because they killed the Armenians?

Hell, Sindely, a century after the fact nobody can even officially refer to what was done to the Armenians (Christians nearly all) at the hands of the Ottoman Musloids as a genocide. Once again, it all comes back to the two-millenia hate. Just a couple of years ago some Armenians tried to get congress to pass a resolution condemning the Armenian genocide but a certain non-existent lobby which cannot be named managed to stop it (as they always do) - because genocides only happen to one ethnic group, apparently. Even in the description of a historical event from a century ago, the statement of the Rabbi above is proved true. It never stops.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 7:37 PM  

"Talmudic reply."

Really? In what way?

Anonymous Ben Cohen January 28, 2017 7:56 PM  

The rabbi should be stripped of citizenship and deported to Muslim countries.

To side with invaders is treason.

Anonymous the management January 28, 2017 8:12 PM  

SixtusVIth wrote:1.) This is NOTHING new - The Jews were routinely accused of aiding Muslim invaders throughout the Middle Ages. According to The Jew as Ally of the Muslim: Medieval Roots of Anti-Semitism this perception was THE key factor in condensing 'prejudice' against Jews. You'll note that the 'prejudice' is actually an empirically supportable behavioral profile. Daniel Pipes reviewed the book briefly here:

Superb and informative comment, thank you Sextus Vith. Post more often.

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 8:17 PM  

Most Jews on a site like this will not attack fellow Jews, not because we agree, but because the entire world seems to hate Jews.

Understandable, but not acceptable. How can you possibly expect anyone to see you as an ally when you will not even stand against self-declared enemies who are fighting a war against us?

And if your identity is tied to the enemy, how do you think it will even be possible to stay out of the conflict?

Blogger VD January 28, 2017 8:18 PM  

So one tends not to pile on, even if you are shaking your head, because deep in your heart you suspect the rest of mankind will do it for you.

All you manage to accomplish is to prevent anyone from trusting you, because you will not even call the enemy what he is, by his own declaration.

Anonymous Quicksilver75 January 28, 2017 8:30 PM  

At least it is clearer now what is/was deeper in the psyche of Laurie Penny, Peter Mandelson, & Barbara Lerner Spectre. Roughly: Europe must be transformed by mass immigration to atone for the Holocaust, and to atone for being too homogeneous.

If you look at polls, voting patterns & one's own experience, I'd say that 40% of Jews are of this "Europe must perish" mindset. 30% are of the opposite mindset, while about 30% are somewhere in the middle. The big problem is that 40% who have the anti-Euro animus are extremely influential, motivated & well connected in the media. They must be confronted and forcefully rebutted consistently until their malevolent intentions are exposed, and they are shown to be manipulative scumbags.

Anonymous the management January 28, 2017 8:33 PM  

Sam the Man, Steel Palm, and other righteous Jews here (other than the inestimable Rabbi B) - you're here with your brothers on the Alt-Right, your hearts beat on the right (versus the left as the fool), and these your brothers are almost all Christians. I say this as a friend: Reconsider your loyalty to Judaism. Jesus was a true Jew by flesh and descent; but he would be considered an anti-Semite by deed and word. Maybe there's a reason you guys keep coming here to see the Judaizers get hammered with the Truth. We want you fully in our camp. (Note bene: Pope Faggot may view Muslims as the same as Christians, but he's not exactly trying to form an alliance against the Jews).

Tom Kratman and John C. Wright, both excellent men, fine wordsmiths, and probably pretty good neighbors, you've got to drop the Composition Fallacy in your arguments.



Besides,

OpenID 6eb4663a-f39a-11e3-aed0-d7d38ec8d6cd January 28, 2017 8:34 PM  

@182/Ben Cohen - diaspora Jewish groups and Israeli groups have been aiding the "refugees" - medically, legally, politically, and tactically since the invasion began, going so far as forming welcoming committees at landing points in Greece and Italy. Here they dispense medical aid, information, food, maps, etc. These efforts have been reported widely in the jewish press....but not in the jewish-owned press aimed at goyim consumption. How very odd! Lest anyone think US jews and Israeli jews don't get along, they are working together to poz the evil White goyim. Very inspirational.

Pre-Trump, the vaunted ADL was similarly engaged in working to flood the USA with same, utilizing the threadbare tactic of getting a couple dozen of 100's of jewish front groups. who's job is to simulate the appearance of popular support.

Did you see Israel *finally* took in some Syrian refugees? There's only 100 of them, and they're children, and they aren't being allowed to stay permanently. Oh well, they can go home after the news cycle right? But who will pay for your pensions?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook January 28, 2017 8:35 PM  

As bad as they are now wait till they reconstruct the temple and start the sacrifices again.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 28, 2017 8:35 PM  

I think you have it inverted, tm. I am refuting, not adopting, the composition fallacy. Others here have adopted it.

Anonymous Hediod January 28, 2017 9:13 PM  

Oh, fudge, I thought I could criticize Jews!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goy

Anonymous Ben Cohen January 28, 2017 9:19 PM  

188: There are many Jewish traitors that need to be called out on their treason.

A lot of Jews justify these actions because of Jewish refugees in WWII. The fact is that no country is obligated to take anyone, anytime, for any reason and they should be grateful that they haven't been thrown out for advocating the importation of non-compatible people at the best, and utter savages at the worst.

Blogger YJLAW January 28, 2017 9:30 PM  

I don't understand this at all and I am Jewish. But this is reflective of the split in Judaism as well. Conservative Judaism is fighting the same left vs right culture war as most Western populations are. I look at statements like these the same way I look at the statements from groups like "queers for Palestine", if you get what you want, you're dead.

Anonymous BBGKB January 28, 2017 10:08 PM  

I have found out why liberal jews are not breeding, warning pics of very ugly people.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/25/sundance-attendees-warn-of-global-warming-impacts-it-affects-our-ability-to-reproduce-warn-criminal-deniers-we-are-coming-for-you/

picking up arab rent boys will be more deadly...Probably not enough to matter, Steve.

You don't understand every gay film festival has yet another movie of an older jewish guy falling in love with a young arab, its unbelievable how many movies they made with the same theme. They have been drinking their own kool aid because it's free.

because deep in your heart you suspect the rest of mankind will do it for you

I am willing to throw the bad in my "community" under the bus, & even burned a few bridges. But then again those arguing for the right to have sex on little league fields and grave yards just so happen to be gay jews. I have meet people who brag about trying to spread AIDS thru the blood supply & would rather legalize teen prostitution than try to do something about the homeless.

Anonymous the management January 28, 2017 10:25 PM  

Markku wrote:Regarding The Slogan, if two people are arguing three positions, it means that one of them is talking from both sides of his mouth. I'm unsure how exactly this is expected to put me at ease.

Markku, Jews apparently pride themselves on being both dishonest and antagonistic. Take them at their word, I suppose.

Blogger wreckage January 28, 2017 10:30 PM  

You'll find that "I'm an X, and I still think this guy is an idiot" is a very powerful bit of rhetoric.

Works for any identity group and gets you respect 9/10 times. It's not a betrayal of kin to point out when they're being idiots, especially when the idiocy is likely to being down wrath.

Anonymous the management January 28, 2017 10:40 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:I think you have it inverted, tm. I am refuting, not adopting, the composition fallacy. Others here have adopted it.

You might be right, TK. Perhaps slothful induction would have been more accurate, but it's late and the wine is good tonight.

Maybe I should stick with plain English: Missing the forest for the trees.

OpenID 6eb4663a-f39a-11e3-aed0-d7d38ec8d6cd January 28, 2017 10:51 PM  

Ben Cohen - I'm going with "Revenge/hate/racism" for 600 shekels Alex:

"Israeli rabbi, Baruch Efrati, who “welcomes the phenomenon” of Islamization in Europe." According to the rabbi, Jews should “rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years [we] were in exile there.” The rabbi declared that Europe’s Christians should never be forgiven for allegedly “slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity.”

“Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for,” Efrati concluded in an address to his Israeli Yeshiva students. Another rabbi said that in order for the Jewish Messiah to return to earth that “Europe, Christianity” must be totally destroyed. “So I ask you: is it good news that Islam invades Europe?” he asked. “It’s excellent news! It means the coming of the messiah

Echoing this Jewish supremacist revenge fantasy, Jewish writer Jack Engelhard wrote in an op-ed for Arutz Sheva:

“Germany (though now hesitant) still wants these people [Syrian refugees] and has already sent out a formal invitation for 800,000, which, as we wrote earlier here, will raise the total number of Muslims living within Germany to six million, the same number of Jews that the Germans sent to the gas chambers merely a generation ago. We called it karma and a trade, Muslims for Jews, that Germany will rue.”

The Jewish revenge narrative, which leans heavily on false and embellished Zionist propaganda stories about the Holocaust, comes up time and again when Jews are preaching in favour of mass non-White immigration into Europe. Recently, a German-Jewish far-left politician, Gregor Gysi, made a bizarre public plea in favour of Syrian refugees seeking asylum in Germany, trumpeting the slogan “Live better without Nazis – Diversity is our future.”[18] “Because of our [German] history between 1933-1945 [the Nazi period] we are obliged to treat refugees properly,” Gysi said, calling for a lifting of restrictions on refugees. “Every year more native Germans die than are born,” Gysi said with a smirk, welcoming the phenomenon as “very fortunate.” “Nazis are not very good at having offspring,” Gysi added with glee, thus implying that all native Germans are “Nazis” deserving of extinction. Perhaps Gysi took inspiration from his co-religionist Theodore Kaufman, an American Jew who wrote a manic tome in 1941, titled Germany Must Perish!, advocating the genocide of all Germans through a forced sterilization program as punishment for electing Adolf Hitler.”

Now, I am merely a humble goy, not up to the intellectual brilliance of the tribe. Perhaps (((someone))) can explain to me why jewish religious leaders are cheering on genocide? They pose as our moral betters. But this is clearly not the case. They make Richard Spencer look like a SWPL on the race war front. Why is "Shoah 2 - Electric Boogaloo” not a perfectly logical response?

Anonymous IronFist January 29, 2017 1:00 AM  

Europe's population of Jews has continuously decreased since 1938, down to a million

Still a million too many.

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