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Sunday, January 22, 2017

Lock them up for 10 years

One of the first tests of the Trump administration's resolve will be whether his prosecutors follow through and jail the rioting SJWs for 10 years. The Left relies heavily upon the Right's lack of resolve to hold them accountable, so locking the little bastards up and making them serve the full term for their crimes will be the fastest way to dissuade other SJWs from committing similar crimes in the future.
Most of the 230 rioters arrested after violent protests erupted in Washington D.C. following Donald Trump's inauguration will be charged with felony rioting, federal prosecutors said on Saturday. The charge carries a punishment of up to ten years in jail and a $25,000 fine. Thousand of protesters launched a violent rampage just blocks away from the White House as anti-Trump demonstrators smashed store windows, set fire to cars and threw bricks at police.
The same strategy should be pursued across the country. The protesters are operating under the assumption that they will not face any serious consequences; they will have lots of expensive lawyers and all sorts of people attempting to negotiate negligible penalties on their behalf. The God-Emperor will be wise to direct his Justice Department to ignore any and all negotiations, settlements, and requests for reduced charges, throw the book at every single one of them, and lock them up for felony offenses.

And as a bonus, none of those convicted will ever be permitted to vote again.

There is a time for showing mercy. This is not one of them.


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Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 22, 2017 4:50 PM  

Criminals can apply to get their voting rights back. They have proven they are unfit to exercise their franchise. Simply serving time does not restore their fitness.

We do not allow children to vote or possess firearms. We cannot allow criminals to vote or possess firearms unless and until they can prove themselves fit again. Simply put some people are unfit to vote.

Anonymous Daniel January 22, 2017 4:54 PM  

I don't want to see rioters go away for 10 years because some day (soon) we on the alt-right will be rioting. Not that showing leniency towards these dirtbags would compel the government to show leniency towards us, but still.

Blogger SteelPalm January 22, 2017 5:26 PM  

@202

"Not that showing leniency towards these dirtbags would compel the government to show leniency towards us, but still."

No, not "still". You refuted your own argument, but then re-asserted it again, anyways.

No mercy will be shown to you. Or has been, to the few right-wing rioters. Show no mercy to the enemy.

Anonymous Man of the Atom January 22, 2017 5:26 PM  

With 200+ arrested in DC, it's not unlikely that a few are local collegiate types at local U's working to become career pols. Even better if from an upper-crusty family that has to deal with "junior" and getting him out from under a felony rap.

I side with dropping the hammer for law-and-order and risking hardening the opposition over time. We'll be hardening as well.

Blogger Kristophr January 22, 2017 5:29 PM  

Salt wrote:synp wrote:Trump has no authority over this. Rioting is a state crime.

And what State is the District? Why, it's Federal.


DC has home rule only because congress was foolish enough to give it to them.

Abolish home rule and put a senate committee back in charge. Fire the entire DC police force and replace it. Forbid section 8 payments inside the District, and let land owners gentrify the District.

Blogger SteveK January 22, 2017 5:31 PM  

A better long term strategy is to let citizens carry out the punishment legally by backing their right to punish these people on the spot. You riot and trash my car, I shoot you in the act. If some attorney attempts to drag them into court, the Fed sides with the defense or is willing to be lenient.

Blogger rumpole5 January 22, 2017 5:32 PM  

Lock 5 - 20 of them up MAX after a show trial. Then "flip" the rest of the quacking operatives to testify against whomever rented the busses, paid the operatives, and etc.b and then reflip, THOSE operatives, right up to Soros. Use RICO to seize every ill gotten, croney, left wing dime. Finally, commute the sentences of the original 5-20 down to a couple of years, so that they won't be seen as victims and heros.

Blogger rumpole5 January 22, 2017 5:32 PM  

Lock 5 - 20 of them up MAX after a show trial. Then "flip" the rest of the quacking operatives to testify against whomever rented the busses, paid the operatives, and etc.b and then reflip, THOSE operatives, right up to Soros. Use RICO to seize every ill gotten, croney, left wing dime. Finally, commute the sentences of the original 5-20 down to a couple of years, so that they won't be seen as victims and heros.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 22, 2017 5:33 PM  

@205: Concur. I live close enough to see how misgoverned DC is. They have no business with home rule, since they keep electing imbeciles and crooks.

Anonymous Grinder January 22, 2017 5:37 PM  

Agree with @96 and @168. I wouldn't go double digit prison sentences for these idiots unless they are not citizens or they have lengthy criminal records. Their punishment should be proportional to the damage caused by them to the American people, which is very minor. Trump can win over many Bernie supporters who are angry with the globalist elites and cement his support from ordinary white working families by going after those who aid immivaders to infiltrate the country. Proportional punishment for the damage they have caused will amount to more than what some anarchist setting fires on garbage cans and smashing windows did. Many people are still uncertain by Trump and suspect that he is just another 1% elite who is interested in keeping the status quo but with a few America First superficial gestures in keeping with his winning sales pitch. Locking up employers of illegals and confiscation of assets of those who aid and abet illegal infiltrators would go a long way to assuage their fears. Removing traitors in government would do even more.

Blogger Avalanche January 22, 2017 5:38 PM  

@8 "The first days of any presidency set the tone, and Trump should send an early message"

President Trump (how lovely that sounds!) has already said that we will stop the American carnage! Arrested carnage causers? MEET YOUR DOOM!

Blogger Garrett Patterson January 22, 2017 5:40 PM  

If they are charged / prosecuted under the federal system, they will indeed do the full time. There is no good behavior; there is no parole.

Anonymous JAG January 22, 2017 5:41 PM  

It amazes me how many people, even on the Alt-Right, that instinctively want to cuck out when it comes to legal punishment for shitlibs.

We had people on here trying to rationalize letting Dyke Clinton skate on all her felonies during the campaign, and now we have many trying to rationalize letting the left get away with rioting and anarchy.

No more mercy. These fucks wouldn't hesitate to do it to us were the roles reversed. I don't give a fuck about martyrs or other such bullshit. Make it hurt, and hurt bad.

Anonymous BBigGayKoranBurner January 22, 2017 5:47 PM  

The only way you can deny sufferage to felons is if you're also willing to deny them citizenship.

Sounds like a plan, but we will have to be sure to send the whites to a separate desolate location if we want another Australia to pop up with non whites begging its not fair to let them in a few years later. Felons have proved they can't abide by society and would vote for felonies to be legalized. I say this as someone who got away with buggery.

I am perfectly willing to restore their voting rights after they'v been crucified, shot, hanged, drowned, burned at the stake, buried alive

As long as they are not buried in Chicongo or Phillysmelphia for the dead vote.

"Not that showing leniency towards these dirtbags would compel the government to show leniency towards us

In the UK a mother on a train was thrown in jail for speaking truthfully about 3rd world immigration while child rapists get community service.

I live close enough to see how misgoverned DC is. They have no business with home rule, since they keep electing imbeciles

You would think getting caught with a dead tranny crack whore would have damaged Marian Barry's career.

Blogger Quicksilver75 January 22, 2017 5:57 PM  

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Blogger Quicksilver75 January 22, 2017 5:59 PM  

The Antifa Commies are backed by part of the elite. It wouldn't be that hard to trace their money stream & puppetmasters back to the same wellspring that feeds the ACLU, SPLC & so forth. There is hundreds of millions of dollars, legions of lefty lawyers ready to defend them. The ACLU long ago discarded the pretense of being a neutral defender of free speech. They have ring fenced off "hate speech" as a crime they won't defend. Rather, they are likely to prosecute it. This is going to to be a long battle given all the lefty sympathizers the Antifa have in the judiciary. It will take a decade to really break the back of this elite & their judicial backstop

Anonymous Godfrey January 22, 2017 6:06 PM  

Lock them up?

Cut off their paycheck instead by arresting Soros and seizing his assets.

When the Soros money is gone just watch how quickly "The Left" disappears.

Blogger Kristophr January 22, 2017 6:08 PM  

Looks like one of the goons featured in the Project Veriatas videos got gigged:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/20/police-arrested-activist-scott-ryan-charney-featur/

Blogger Cail Corishev January 22, 2017 6:09 PM  

Here's a thought: if 230 people were arrested, that means the police (whether it was Secret Service, Park Police, D.C. locals, or whoever) have already taken a completely different stance than they would have up to three days ago when the orders were coming down from Obama. You'd expect those organizations to be fairly converged by now, but perhaps they still have enough members who want to do their jobs. If so, that could bode well for other branches of the cops, like the FBI, who have an investigation or two lying around that they might want to pick up again.

Blogger Kristophr January 22, 2017 6:10 PM  

And they let him off with a misdemeanor.

Looks like the courts need clearing as well.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 22, 2017 6:15 PM  

#Blackshirts

Blogger SteelPalm January 22, 2017 6:25 PM  

@213 It amazes me how many people, even on the Alt-Right, that instinctively want to cuck out when it comes to legal punishment for shitlibs.

Exactly correct. It's only the realities of 4GW that prevent me from advocating vastly more extreme punishments for the Marxist thugs than 10 years in federal, pound me in the ass prison.

Morally, I have zero qualms with such an utterly disproportionate response, however.

And I'm not even that bloody-minded; I want to inflict as little violence as possible in restoring sanity and avert a Civil War if at all possible.

We clearly have work to do in awakening people to the realities of the political landscape.

@220 Didn't hear about the letting him off with a misdemeanor. Source?

Blogger Martin January 22, 2017 6:28 PM  

Vox is totally correct. This is Trumps watch now. It will not do to let it begin with disorder. At least some people voted for Trump to put an end to BLMs et als chenenigans.

Blogger VD January 22, 2017 6:50 PM  

It amazes me how many people, even on the Alt-Right, that instinctively want to cuck out when it comes to legal punishment for shitlibs.

They're not Alt-Right, not yet. They're either Alt-Lite or straight conservatives.

Anonymous Father January 22, 2017 6:53 PM  

Science shows that Thomas Hobbes, not Rousseau, was right.

Blogger James Dixon January 22, 2017 7:17 PM  

> So it follows that once the sentence has been served, so has the debt.

That ship sailed a long time ago. Sexual predator registries are just one example of same.

Anonymous Athor Pel January 22, 2017 7:21 PM  

"182. Father January 22, 2017 3:13 PM

If a felon breaks a law, it is fair to deny them the right to vote while they are serving their sentence. But once they're released, it is unjust to deny them the right to vote given that they paid their debt to society. And if their debt has been paid, they should be reinstituted as signatories of the social contract.
"


Voting is a privilege. It is not a right, citizen or not. Criminals vote for criminals. Why do you want criminals to rule you?

What social contract? Please, give us the origin of this contract. Who wrote it, what does it say and who signed on to it?

Blogger Dave January 22, 2017 7:34 PM  

We do not allow children to vote or possess firearms.

You're only half right there, bucko.

Anonymous Father January 22, 2017 7:36 PM  

Voting is a privilege. It is not a right, citizen or not.

Ancient Rome would disagree with you. Ius suffragiorum was one of the principle rights of a Roman citizen.

Please, give us the origin of this contract.

Ancient Rome and its predecessor Athenian Democracy

Who wrote it

The founders of the Roman republic, with Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus playing a pivotal role.

what does it say

All citizens are equal and there are to be no noblemen.

who signed on to it?

Like filial obligations, it is an obligation that you have but you didn't consent to.

Felons have proved they can't abide by society and would vote for felonies to be legalized.

All political expression should be granted, even for bad ideas.

Anonymous Luke January 22, 2017 7:39 PM  

35. Mighty Lou January 22, 2017 9:14 AM
"The chant of "get em out" will become "lock em up". At least they can get thier free education. I've heard many prisons offer college courses these days."

Only if Col. DuBois ("Starship Troopers" book reference), Kratman, or Bill Lind taught the class. All we need is for yet another black Muslim or buzz-cut SJW lesbian recruiter for national treason to make them even harder-core and more effective subversives.

Blogger Ingot9455 January 22, 2017 8:09 PM  

Simply, when a felon is released from prison they have not 'paid their debt to society' as the phrase goes. They must still contact their parole officer regularly and notify them if leaving town or changing addresses, and so forth.
If they wish to recover their voting or firearm rights, all they have to do is petition the state to have those rights returned. All states have a process for it, but generally they have to have kept their nose clean for 10-15 years.

Blogger seeingsights January 22, 2017 8:18 PM  

The front page of my local paper--The Chicago Sun Times--has a picture of the women rally.

But I don't expect to see a front page story about the violence from the anti-Trump protestors.

Its a sign of the patheticness of the main stream media in the US that one has to find out important news from non US news outlets.

Anonymous Athor Pel January 22, 2017 8:19 PM  

"229. Father January 22, 2017 7:36 PM
...
Ancient Rome would disagree with you. Ius suffragiorum was one of the principle rights of a Roman citizen.
...
Ancient Rome and its predecessor Athenian Democracy
...
All citizens are equal and there are to be no noblemen.
...
Like filial obligations, it is an obligation that you have but you didn't consent to.
...
"



You're talking about Cives Romani optimo iure.

But then there's the Cives Romani non optimo iure, the Latini, the Socii, the Provinciales and the Peregrini. You didn't mention them.

Then you talk about obligations we don't consent to. That's funny. I thought consent was a prerequisite for modern government. You know, the whole consent of the governed thing.


We're not Romans.

We're Americans.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar January 22, 2017 8:29 PM  

Apply RICO. Tie the organizers up in litigation for a few years.

Anonymous Athor Pel January 22, 2017 8:29 PM  

"229. Father January 22, 2017 7:36 PM
...
Ancient Rome would disagree with you. Ius suffragiorum was one of the principle rights of a Roman citizen.
...
Ancient Rome and its predecessor Athenian Democracy
...
All citizens are equal and there are to be no noblemen.
...
Like filial obligations, it is an obligation that you have but you didn't consent to.
...
"



You're talking about Cives Romani optimo iure.

But then there's the Cives Romani non optimo iure, the Latini, the Socii, the Provinciales and the Peregrini. You didn't mention them.

Then you talk about obligations we don't consent to. That's funny. I thought consent was a prerequisite for modern government. You know, the whole consent of the governed thing.


We're not Romans.

We're Americans.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 22, 2017 8:53 PM  

Athor Pel wrote:"229. Father January 22, 2017 7:36 PM

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Ancient Rome would disagree with you. Ius suffragiorum was one of the principle rights of a Roman citizen.

...

Ancient Rome and its predecessor Athenian Democracy

...

All citizens are equal and there are to be no noblemen.

...

Like filial obligations, it is an obligation that you have but you didn't consent to.

...

"


You're talking about Cives Romani optimo iure.

But then there's the Cives Romani non optimo iure, the Latini, the Socii, the Provinciales and the Peregrini. You didn't mention them.

Then you talk about obligations we don't consent to. That's funny. I thought consent was a prerequisite for modern government. You know, the whole consent of the governed thing.

We're not Romans.

We're Americans.



We aren't Romans but we won't be Americans much longer.

I'm in favor of automatic restoration as well but I also favor restricting the franchise to landowners so there is that.

The reason is to prevent political BS, felons in California can vote but can own arms legally which is stupid.

Also if someone is really so bad they can't function in society or won't defend the community , we can always hang or shoot them.

Now re: consent of the governed. That's the idea but in practiced its nonsense . No one consented to the immigrants flooding the west or to have their culture ripped from them.

Also in this world, power is the deciding factor above all else. Have enough power,, consent is irrelevant

Blogger Sweet One January 22, 2017 9:55 PM  

They'll cry fascism at the top of their lungs if you lock them up. Wait, they're already doing that...

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar January 22, 2017 9:59 PM  

@236
Exactly. We are wide open.

Blogger Mountain Man January 22, 2017 10:28 PM  

The winning is priceless..best vote I've ever cast

Anonymous BBigGayKoranBurner January 22, 2017 10:30 PM  

Ancient Rome would disagree with you. Ius suffragiorum was one of the principle rights of a Roman citizen

Rome would be having apes fight to the death in the coliseum, instead of jumping on top of cop cars in Baltimore.

All citizens are equal and there are to be no noblemen

But you don't know what that word equal means. In the founders day only those who contributed positively to taxes by being property owners were able to vote.

All political expression should be granted, even for bad ideas.

You really should defend Holo cost deniers because the opposite end of the spectrum are people who understand why they germans did it ;)

Simply, when a felon is released from prison they have not 'paid their debt to society' as the phrase goes.

If anything their debt to society is increased by the cost of imprisoning them & giving them sex change operations. You will be glad to know that since I knew a friend of an ex that threw underage drug/sex parties had a roommate on probation, I managed to get a parole inspection for the morning after a party.

The winning is priceless..best vote I've ever cast It was $40 less than the Hugo

Blogger weka January 22, 2017 10:31 PM  

They'll cry fascism at the top of their lungs if you lock them up. Wait, they're already doing that...

They are against a corner. They cannot think of anything nastier than the NSDAP. I can. Starting with Stalin and Ivan and ending with Genghis, Tamurlaine and Titus Caesar.

Blogger Mountain Man January 22, 2017 10:39 PM  

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Blogger Mountain Man January 22, 2017 10:43 PM  

@79
Bingo...that along with the aforementioned - no voting and to add to the list, no legal ownership of firearms. Talk about winning !

Anonymous FP January 22, 2017 10:52 PM  

"Felons have proved they can't abide by society and would vote for felonies to be legalized."

If they've served their time are they not free men again? Otherwise, why were they let out of jail? Given how easy it is to be a felon these days, I'm hesitant to deny voting to those who have paid their debt to society, let alone the ability to defend yourself with arms.

Blogger wreckage January 23, 2017 12:28 AM  

@219, the Left just spent 8 years working REALLY hard to get the cops as far off-side as possible.

Cops are probably one of the only institutional groups Trump could very nearly own if he puts his mind to it.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 23, 2017 2:02 AM  

This is one of those areas where I instinctively agree with you...and yet still don't fully trust my instincts.

You should trust your instincts. You aren't wrong. Letting them run wild as an example, then crucifying them, would be perfect.

But I'm reliably informed that I'm neuroatypical, so you have to take that with a grain of salt.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 23, 2017 2:17 AM  

They are against a corner. They cannot think of anything nastier than the NSDAP. I can. Starting with Stalin and Ivan and ending with Genghis, Tamurlaine and Titus Caesar.

Do they understand why they're probably descended from Genghis Khan, and why they should oppose mass migration?

Blogger Feather Blade January 23, 2017 2:26 AM  

@243 Not necessarily. If a criminal is out of prison before his full sentence is up, then he is on probation.

Ex. If the sentence was 10 years, and the convict is released after 8 he still has 2 years probation before he is a free man.

During probation, he has to check in with his parole officer, abstain from alcohol, and avoid anyone else with a criminal record, among other possible restrictions.

Hypothetically, this reduces the recidivism rate

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 23, 2017 4:45 AM  

@Father
The only way you can deny sufferage to felons is if you're also willing to deny them citizenship.
So?

Anonymous Discard January 23, 2017 5:33 AM  

182. Father: What is this "debt" you write of? If a man is wrongly convicted and serves 20 years for arson, does he, upon release have the right to go burn a house, having paid for the crime already?
People are jailed as a warning to others and as a means to keep them away from the public, not to turn them into better people. There is no moral calculus that determines that beating an unoffending passerby warrants five years and not ten. If I had a crack at the unknown subhuman who once knocked my mother down for amusement, he'd be dead.
And why would any sane man want a human predator to have an equal say in how the society ought to be run?

Blogger Stilicho January 23, 2017 6:28 AM  

@discard he isn't sane. Sperg gonna Sperg, naturally, but he may have a societal death wish lurking in there as well. It's why big L libertarianism cannot work. Amusing for a post or two followed by a rapid descent into boring.

Blogger Todd Brown January 23, 2017 8:21 AM  

So where are the names and mugshots of these people? Isn't that public information? If they had been "racists", the media would be plastering their photos all over the place.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 23, 2017 9:16 AM  

Speaking of George Will, Fox News fired his treasonous ass.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 23, 2017 10:38 AM  

"Father", my ass. This nut is an argumentative, petulent lefty brat.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 23, 2017 6:00 PM  

@114
Elizabeth, shortly after the hardhat riot, Mad Magazine put up a parody song I still remember:

Off we go into the peace group yonder
Looking for hippies to chase.
There's a creep tearing our flag asunder.
At 'im boys! Step on his face!
Raise the flag over this land of freedom.
We'll preserve liberty's way.
Those filthy reds, we'll break their heads;
Yeah, nothing can stop the hard hats today!

Blogger Matthew January 23, 2017 6:22 PM  

You can detect the incontinent fagwits who comment here solely by their choice of commenter name: Father, Obvious, Question, Truth, etc.

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