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Sunday, January 08, 2017

Mailvox: the slow death of Mozilla

Brendan Eich is going to outlast the company that pushed him out.
Got an email at work today saying that Arena the software we use for document tracking is no longer supporting Firefox going forward due to a lack of use by users. So it would seem the terminal deathside is beginning in earnest. 
No doubt it will be particularly satisfying for Mr. Eich when companies like this start adopting Brave as their browser of choice. 

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39 Comments:

Blogger Cecil Henry January 08, 2017 6:42 PM  

Too bad. I love Firefox and its features.

Don't like to give it up.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 6:45 PM  

Are you beginning to see anything from Brave Payments? I've been tossing around the idea of giving it test run.

Would your preference right now be supporting sites such as VP & IG via Brave, Brainstorm, or upping my donation to IG?

Anonymous Just another commenter January 08, 2017 6:47 PM  

But will the SJWs learn anything from it? Wait, I mean, learn anything factually true, honest, or useful to them while interacting with the real world?

I'd bet not. They'll think the problem was that they didn't double down sooner, harder, and with better messaging.

Blogger The Chortling January 08, 2017 6:48 PM  

Brave on Windows still a bit of a hog. three or four tabs in with Gab as one and it starts to really gum it up... noticeable especially in Gab when trying to reply or create an entry. the editor slows to a crawl...

I like the idea of Brace and Eich's new start ... hope it flourishes. has some technical challenges to overcome.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 6:55 PM  

Which windows? Win10 on a laptop typically with 20+ tabs open haven't noticed performance issues. I attribute issues I see on Gab still in beta and ramping up users.

Blogger SirHamster January 08, 2017 6:58 PM  

Dave wrote:Are you beginning to see anything from Brave Payments? I've been tossing around the idea of giving it test run.

Would your preference right now be supporting sites such as VP & IG via Brave, Brainstorm, or upping my donation to IG?


I suggest that if you want to support IG, support them directly instead of indirectly through Brave.

Use Brave payments if you think the Internet is better off using their micropayment model.

Personally, I do both. IG Burn Unit to destroy wikipedia. Brave Payments because ads ruin the Internet.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 08, 2017 7:00 PM  

Good to know that Mozilla is surely putting maximal resources into virtue signalling rather than workable, useful software.

Opportunity? That abandonedsoftware could be forked off now easily, perhaps made to work better.

Blogger Dave January 08, 2017 7:12 PM  

@SirH I'm in the Burn Unit now. Does Brave Payments let you choose who and how much?

Anonymous Faceless January 08, 2017 7:24 PM  

Would that the various people who manufactured the ousting of Eich for a non-job-related political view would not be able to find employment once Mozilla Foundation fully syncs into oblivion!

They are going to be hiding that on their resumes like they hide working in the Clinton campaign.

Blogger SirHamster January 08, 2017 7:35 PM  

Dave wrote:@SirH I'm in the Burn Unit now. Does Brave Payments let you choose who and how much?

To a certain degree. You choose the funds you want to tip monthly ($5-20), and that amount is allocated based on time/frequency you spend at each site.

Websites can be excluded. I exclude MSM, wikipedia, Google, etc.

Further details can be dug up on Brave's blog. FAQ here.

Blogger Daniel January 08, 2017 7:39 PM  

I hate chrome. I am trying to adapt to brave but the weird behaviors upset me... Hope they sort them out

Anonymous The OASF January 08, 2017 7:43 PM  

I gave up on Firefox a couple years ago. But I also hate Chrome. I'm really not sure what to go with.

Blogger Daniel January 08, 2017 7:44 PM  

W7 64bits brave perf is very good with many tabs opened

Blogger Tim January 08, 2017 7:44 PM  

I'm cheering for brave but it's still hella flakey on Linux.

Blogger Jimmy Glover January 08, 2017 7:53 PM  

I am an engineer who uses a lot of cad sites. Brave exhibits a lot of the same behavior as Firefox on these sites. I'm using brave for non work related browsing but have to have chrome for about half of work usage. I hope it catches up but Firefox never did while I had it. I actually went to opera for a while.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart January 08, 2017 7:53 PM  

+1

That is all.

Blogger Beau January 08, 2017 7:54 PM  

Mozilla? I haven't given Firefox a thought since I can't remember when. Dumped them when they dumped Eich. It'll be a good day when they fold.

Blogger Wraith January 08, 2017 8:02 PM  

@3: "But will the SJWs learn anything from it? Wait, I mean, learn anything factually true, honest, or useful to them while interacting with the real world?

I'd bet not. They'll think the problem was that they didn't double down sooner, harder, and with better messaging."

I'll bet vital parts of my body that it happens exactly as you've described.

Blogger James Dixon January 08, 2017 8:07 PM  

I saw on LXer that Mozilla just hired a "VP of Advocacy". A woman, of course.

> Too bad. I love Firefox and its features.

That's what Pale Moon is for. The Firefox codebase without all the convergence.

Blogger pyrrhus January 08, 2017 8:24 PM  

I used to run Firefox all the time. Now I can't remember the last time I used it...

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 08, 2017 8:33 PM  

If someone can figure out smart card integration (either via the native reader in Windows or ActivClient) with Brave on Windows, I would definitely utilize Brave more. Unfortunately, that's not an option at present. Also, my coding skills suck, else I'd attempt to do it myself.

Blogger tz January 08, 2017 8:34 PM  

@19 And the new board members
They say it is about keeping the internet open, but instead it appears more about virtue-signalling.

Brave is coming along nicely, but I still need sync (if it was cross platform I'd be there today), along with formfill - password import.

Anonymous BBGKB January 08, 2017 9:13 PM  

All of the celebrating when he lost his CEO position at the company he created over a $2000 donation to a winning campaign by people who wont admit that we couldn't even win gay marriage/divorce by vote in CA. A lot of people probably got red pilled by it.

Blogger weka January 08, 2017 9:20 PM  

@23. BGKB, if you want a meltdown, check out Libreboot. Which stunk so much that Richard Freaking Stallman himself kicked Libreboot out of GNU.

Leah Rowe has a huge amount of ranty against RMS and GNU and FSF on the Libreboot home page. Unprofessional, but standard SJWism

Blogger pdwalker January 08, 2017 9:44 PM  

consider vivaldi then. these guys also know how to make usable browsers.

Anonymous hoots January 08, 2017 9:46 PM  

Brave on Ubuntu 16.04 has been running flawlessly for me. The Android version could use some work performance-wise, however. Love the micropayment idea and hope it catches on bigly.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 08, 2017 11:12 PM  

@4 The Chortling
Brave on Windows still a bit of a hog. three or four tabs in with Gab as one and it starts to really gum it up... noticeable especially in Gab when trying to reply or create an entry. the editor slows to a crawl...
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Same here. Winders 7 on an old machine.

Anonymous Will January 08, 2017 11:31 PM  

What do you all suggest to replace Firefox? I've given up previously on IE, Chrome and now apparently Firefox. What's next? Brave?

Anonymous FP January 09, 2017 12:06 AM  

Brave or a fork of Firefox like Palemoon. Most browsers these days have issues, its getting rather annoying.

Blogger The Other Robot January 09, 2017 1:02 AM  

I see that Firefox is not trying to claim that they don't give your secrets away or some shit. I see ads from them all the time now.

Screw them.

Anonymous Luke January 09, 2017 2:06 AM  

I want to eventually see Brendan Eich's new company buy Mozilla for a song, fire all the libtards/diversities, especially queers or Democrats. (All women who have short hair, any tattoos/extra piercings, have any bastards, frivorce history, or who are over age 25 and currently unmarried WRT hetero marriages should be among them), and then fold the remnants (would be mainly American white men with STEM degrees) into his new company, all while saying virtually nothing about it until long after it was a fait accompli.

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid January 09, 2017 6:00 AM  

I'm happy Brave has a regular Android browser now--no more bubbles!

Blogger Eric Mueller January 09, 2017 8:02 AM  

Even when it would benefit me, I will not use Firefox. Chrome hasn't been working well lately. Brave is nice, but not ready to be used daily. Pale Moon isn't yet ready for Mac, and Safari sucks. But since Mozilla is far more concerned about gay feelings than writing good code, I'm not using their browser.

Anonymous lmgtfy January 09, 2017 9:26 AM  

Firefox will die eventually, but it's gonna take longer than your source thinks.

FF trend over last 2 years

Blogger Student in Blue January 09, 2017 10:30 AM  

Firefox will die eventually, but it's gonna take longer than your source thinks.

I mean, to be fair, once a company hits a certain size it can take forever for them to die out despite being hilariously irrelevant.

Case in point, AOL. I didn't even realize they were still in business, but apparently they are.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 09, 2017 5:56 PM  

Yeah, but at least I can still get Firefox to run on Windows XP ...

What? You actually gave Microsoft more money?

I'd rather sit through a new CentOS install with a subsequent manual loading of commercial OpenGL drivers, newer Java, newer browser packages, and several kernel package rebuilds than give Microsoft more cash.

Which is why my Windows XP runs inside VirtualBox. :-)

Blogger tz January 09, 2017 6:16 PM  

And a new book, Death by HR (Tom Woods Podcast) echoes the problem

Blogger ayy lmao January 10, 2017 6:58 PM  

The main reason why I abandoned Firefox was because their crappy web browser kept freezing up on all my devices. I also hated how the sync function would only sync automatically once every 10 minutes or so, unlike with chrome which syncs constantly.

Blogger ayy lmao January 10, 2017 7:01 PM  

I really like the concept behind the brave web browser however it's not yet complete. The day they add sync functionality and the ability to install extensions is the day I'll switch to brave as my primary browser.

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