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Thursday, January 26, 2017

Mexico runs away

The President of Mexico doesn't dare to face the God-Emperor:
Mexico's president on Thursday scrapped a planned summit with Donald Trump in the face of insistent tweets from the U.S. president demanding Mexico pay for a border wall, a spat that threatens Mexican efforts to salvage trade ties. Taking a page out of Trump's playbook, President Enrique Pena Nieto fired the salvo on Twitter, after Trump's call for Mexico to foot the bill for his planned wall prompted a groundswell of calls in Mexico for next week's meeting to be called off.

Trump said in a Twitter message earlier on Thursday that his Mexican counterpart should cancel his scheduled visit to Washington if Mexico refuses to pay for the wall that he has ordered constructed along the border. Trump views the wall, a major part of his election campaign, as part of a package of measures to curb illegal immigration.

Trump, who took office last Friday, signed an executive order for construction of the wall on Wednesday, the same day that Mexico's foreign minister held talks with Trump aides in the White House aimed at healing ties.
I won't try to guess at the President's objectives, but what are the odds that this move on Mexico's part wasn't anticipated and doesn't play right into the God-Emperor's hands? Trump is adroit at setting up the heads-I-win, tails-you-lose play; merely showing up meant Mexico had to commit to funding the wall. If things continue on this track, Trump may well run Mexico out of NAFTA without having to talk Congress into doing anything or even having to issue an executive order.

And the Deep State is being cleaned out as well:
At least three senior U.S. diplomats at the State Department have left their posts, State Department officials told Reuters on Thursday. It was not immediately clear whether their departure was part of the normal transition process when a new administration starts or whether it was a coordinated walkout by diplomats who had served in Democrat Barack Obama’s administration.
Who cares why they left? The important thing is that they won't be in place to play their usual whispering games.

UPDATE: They were kicked out. The swamp, she is draining!

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133 Comments:

Blogger allyn71 January 26, 2017 1:06 PM  

Winning!

Anonymous Anonymous January 26, 2017 1:07 PM  

I believe that the Mexican government REALLY DOES WANT the Trump Wall? They just can't PUBLICLY support it, in much the same way that Arab governments want the US to stay in the Middle East, even while PUBLICLY condemning us, to pacify their populace. Here is history on the Great Wall of Trump:
NEW YORK – The legislation President-elect Donald Trump will need to build the promised wall along the U.S. southern border with Mexico was passed in 2006 and remains on the books, even though it was never built.
The Trump administration will only need fund the 2006 act to finally build a double-layer secure wall along the border with Mexico as Congress originally intended 10 years ago.
On Oct. 26, 2006, President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 saying: “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform.
Democrats in Congress have blocked funding, arguing the barrier is too costly and a step away from their stated goal of “comprehensive immigration reform,” a code-phrase for proposed legislation that typically includes de facto amnesty for the millions of illegal immigrants already in the United States.
The bill was introduced into the House of Representatives (H.R. 6061) on Sep. 13, 2006, by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y. The bill received overwhelming support, passing the House by a vote of 283-138 on Sept. 14, 2006, and passing the Senate by 80-19 on Sept. 29, 2006.
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 called for building some 700 miles of double-fence construction along the Mexican border, complete with vehicle barriers, checkpoints and lighting. Congress approved $1.2 billion in a separate homeland security spending bill to build the fence.
In 2006, as George W. Bush was pushing the Security and Prosperity Partnership with Mexico as a result of a tripartite summit with Mexico and Canada in Waco, Texas, the previous year, those pushing for secure borders had reason to believe the Secure Fence Act would go a long way toward solving the problem of unchecked illegal immigration from Mexico.
Where’s the Fence?
However, as WND reported in 2007 then Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, submitted an amendment to the Department of Homeland Security 2008 budget that would effectively gut the Secure Fence Act.
The Hutchison amendment read, in part, “nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location.”
By slipping the amendment into the 2008 DHS funding bill, Hutchison gave DHS total discretion to build a fence or to not build a fence in any particular location.
Hutchinson knew that if then-Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff had discretion on whether or not to build the fence, the Bush administration could always insist that negotiations at the local level along the border, including with Mexico, had resulted in solutions to border security – including cameras, drones, sensors and other technological surveillance measures – that would make the barrier unnecessary.
On Nov. 6, 2007, a DHS fact sheet documented that only 76 miles of a “pedestrian fence” had been built along the Mexican border, making it clear no double-layer barrier had been built.
On Jan. 25, 2008, then-Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the author of the double-layer fence provisions of the Secure Fence Act of 2008, complained that only five miles of the 75-mile “pedestrian fence” then built was actually double-layer, as specified in the original legislation.

Source: WorldNetDaily.com
Written By: JEROME R. CORSI

Blogger Salt January 26, 2017 1:07 PM  

and the fun start rolling

Anonymous Scintan January 26, 2017 1:11 PM  

They were let go.

.@eliselabottcnn reports they were sent letters by the White House that their service was no longer required

They got axed

Blogger David-2 January 26, 2017 1:13 PM  

Longtime State Dept functionary P. Kennedy was one of Clinton's fixers in her email/server debacle. He was also the one who decided to reduce security in Benghazi, the even worse Clinton debacle. He let Abedin become a full time "contractor" to the state department while holding down three other full time jobs.

But he wanted to stay on the job. Because he was so good at it, I guess.

Bye!

Blogger S1AL January 26, 2017 1:13 PM  

Trump threatened to drain the swamp. He was wrong. The swamp is so scared it's draining itself.

Blogger allyn71 January 26, 2017 1:15 PM  

I won't try to guess at the President's objectives

I will for kicks. As you said it is a "Heads I win/Tails you lose" scenario. If they show up they are paying for the wall. If they don't show up it gives Trump ability to show they won't cooperate and cover to pull out of NAFTA and put trade barriers on Mexico which has a $60 billion trade deficit with US. Mexico is already on the edge of revolt, through impact of trade war with US and the Mexican government will be in serious trouble.

This way Nieto will come on his knees to kiss the ring and Mexico will be the warning shot to the rest of the world. Trump has said he wants to pull out of multinational trade deals and conduct trade relations one on one. What better way to get out of NAFTA, get the wall paid for, and let everyone know there is a new sheriff in town. There is a reason all these companies are going out of there way to follow the Trumptrain.

On the diplomats leaving, sounds like the swamp is starting to drain.

Blogger Dirtnapninja January 26, 2017 1:16 PM  

My guess is that NAFTA will be used as chip to gain mexicos cooperation on border issues.

Blogger Timmy3 January 26, 2017 1:16 PM  

Without NAFTA, Mexico will still have to come back to the table for a trade agreement. Get them then on The Wall?

Trump needs more mass resignations. Drain the swamp. Patrick Kennedy was terrible at the State Department.

Anonymous BluePony January 26, 2017 1:18 PM  

"The swamp is so scared it's draining itself."

IF they shit enough bricks we can build the wall for free.

Blogger David-2 January 26, 2017 1:19 PM  

BTW, that article posted above on lack of progress towards the fence neglected to mention that Boeing and its subcontractors sucked down $1B - that's B for billion - for a "virtual fence" that never worked and could not be made to work.

In fact, I think there's a strong argument that the intended purpose of spending that $1B that way was to provide an appearance of "progress" while in fact delaying any progress at all for as long as possible in order to kill the project from neglect (or until Dems got into the White House). And it worked! The "virtual fence" bought 'em 6 years.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 26, 2017 1:21 PM  

As others have noted, Trump's actions are revealing just how inept were republicans across the board.

People are now aware of what's possible, and when Ryan, McStain, et.al. start to mewl about changes, their constituents will have a new metric by which to judge. Two years is a long way away, and a market dislocation would be a wild card, but voters may look past incumbency and see these spineless, appeasement-conditioned cucks for who they really are. If so, it'll be about time.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian January 26, 2017 1:26 PM  

As others have noted, Trump's actions are revealing just how inept were republicans across the board.

People are now aware of what's possible,


Em - PHA - sis

Anonymous BluePony January 26, 2017 1:27 PM  

"for a "virtual fence" that never worked and could not be made to work."

And yet every UFO nutcase who gets within telescope distance of Area 51 is detected and firmly turned away. Seems like some sort of virtual fencing methodology has existed for a while.

Blogger 4499 January 26, 2017 1:32 PM  

The local Wal-Mart is hiring cart wranglers. I mention it in case those three slack-ass bastards from the State Department decide they might want to try honest work for a change. It beats suicide by nail gun.

Blogger Elocutioner January 26, 2017 1:32 PM  

https://twitter.com/anthonycumia/status/824117356066668544

"In under a week the Trump presidency has me wondering what the [heck] we're all those other presidents doing?"

Why, it's almost like they had motives other than what's best for We The People...

Blogger Steven Williamson January 26, 2017 1:32 PM  

Peso Tumbles
http://www.businessinsider.com/fx-currency-market-update-january-26-2017-2017-1

Blogger tz January 26, 2017 1:33 PM  

Don't let Aliens here (incl. legal) send cash across the border using Western Union, or put the 50% tax, but let them take it with them personally as cash and not come back (sans visa) once the wall is up.

Blogger Orville January 26, 2017 1:33 PM  

And the Cannucks have already said to the Mexicans, "we love our friends to the south", but we're on the Trump train" and are renegotiating.

OpenID elijahrhodes January 26, 2017 1:33 PM  

Trump is proving to be a man of his word. His campaign promises were not empty rhetoric. Eat shit all you Cucks and Never Trumpers. Because Winning!

Blogger pyrrhus January 26, 2017 1:39 PM  

Is anyone getting bored with all this winning? Not I....

Blogger pyrrhus January 26, 2017 1:41 PM  

Tax all remittances, please. More winning, Carlos Slim losing...

Blogger Brian S January 26, 2017 1:41 PM  

off topic, but hilarious...

https://youtu.be/WFx7VqYuGhc

Anonymous Jon Bromfield January 26, 2017 1:49 PM  

For too many years American foreign policy worried that acting in our own interests might make other countries mad at us. Now with the God-Emperor in charge, they going to worry about making US mad.

As it should be.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 1:53 PM  

Pena Nieto shows signs of being another pretty face, but not all that smart. Trying to out-Tweet Trump, then reneging on a state visit shows short-term thinking, maybe petulance. Too short for the ride, perhaps?

The Mexican elite families that run that country via cronyism know full well how the US can make average Mexicans pay for the wall. They can't admit that in public, though, because remittances bring as much money into Mexico as oil production does.

Too bad for them. They need to run their country a bit better, and stop relying on El Norte as the pressure relief valve.

Anonymous BluePony January 26, 2017 1:54 PM  

"Is anyone getting bored with all this winning? Not I...."

At my age, I can only climax so many times a day, though. No homo.

Blogger Orville January 26, 2017 1:57 PM  

@23 For too many years American foreign policy worried that acting in our own interests might make other countries mad at us.

Watch the first clip below. Trump. Doesn't. Care.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-25/trump-redpills-abc%E2%80%99s-david-muir-%E2%80%9C-world-angry-it-gets%E2%80%9D

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 1:59 PM  


UPDATE: They were kicked out. The swamp, she is draining!


Three Wormtounge's removed? A good start. More, and faster, please.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 26, 2017 2:03 PM  

You need career diplomats, they have the expertise needed to provide terrorists with millions in cash and tons of weapons, apparently because the terrorists called up and asked.

"Sure thing," the diplomats said.

"We will send that over. Do you want a visit from a ranking senator too? You can take pictures for Facebook.

But, first you have to promise not to use the weapons or money against the United States."

Blogger Lovekraft January 26, 2017 2:03 PM  

Watching how Hollywood and the velvet mafia try to counter middle America and promote instead a pro-immigrant position.

Expect to see more of the same boring crap coming out now.

Anonymous Susan January 26, 2017 2:07 PM  

@24, Those are actually Spanish elites, who have controlled Mexico and all the wealth since the time of the conquistadors.

A case of real time apartheid just south of our border, but liberals refuse to acknowledge it.

So does anyone think it could be in the cards at some future date that Mexico City begs Trump to come in and save their sorry hides?

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 26, 2017 2:09 PM  

@Orville

Thanks for the link. I literally laughed out loud at the look on the interviewer's face at the end of the clip.

All this talk about making Muslims angrier is just appeasement dressed up to try and look respectable.

Anonymous Raymondson January 26, 2017 2:09 PM  

A majority of Canucks in the Western provinces are willing to do business with the new White House. Those provinces tend to be more American and they like Trump. Trudeau is doing town hall meetings across Canada: A lukewarm reception in Saskatchewan. Boy Wonder is having a feud with the province's premier over the carbon tax. Trudeau was booed when he appeared in Calgary, Alberta the other night.Many Albertans would like to chuck Canada all together and become a 51st state. Many here on the Canadian Plains are saying that Trump has done more for Canada (support of pipelines) in a week than "Mr. Selfie" Trudeau has done for the country in over a year that he's been PM.

Anonymous Desert Rat January 26, 2017 2:12 PM  

I have to say that in a lifetime of surprises in the political arena what with assassinations, resignations, articles of impeachment and a senate trial, BJs in the oval office and the girlfriends of mafia dons paying clandestine calls on Camelot not to mention watching a sitting president openly work to undermine and weaken the nation at home and abroad that I would never live to see anyone enter the office and do what he said he would do while campaigning or show any signs of real leadership. Of course in recent campaigns it has been promises of delivering nothing beyond tax-payer funded goodies for the downtrodden mixed with meaningless platitudes about "values", "equality" and "fairness" said horse manure being shoveled out liberally by the champions of both parties.

My president, Donald J. Trump, a man I thought of some 15 months ago as an unserious dilettante dabbling in politics to break the ennui inherent in the life of the super rich, has turned out to be very possibly the best man to hold the office, certainly in my lifetime, possibly since our first and greatest president. Some of the goofiness early on was no doubt real but President Trump shows a talent for learning quickly from his mistakes and a real genius at reducing his enemies to babbling, blustering buffoons. But the main thing is it looks like he really is keeping his word. I never thought I would live to see any president actually keep his word.

I find myself having to resist the temptation to fall into blathering hero worship. The man hasn't been in office for a week. But the energy, determination, courage and just plain integrity of the man is extraordinary. May God watch over him and his family and colleagues in the coming months.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 26, 2017 2:15 PM  

Kicked out--perfect. Thinning the herd at State and CIA is long overdue.

Not nearly tired of winning yet!

Anonymous Jack Amok January 26, 2017 2:16 PM  

So much winning...

"Hey! You can't do that!"

"I just did."

"But, you can't... HEY! You can't do that either!"

"I just did."

"But... HEY!..."

Actually, I'm starting to think Spicer is a very benevolent gift from the God-Emperor to his MSM anklebiters. If they didn't have poo to chase, they'd have to try and grapple with all of what he is doing and I think their heads might explode

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 26, 2017 2:20 PM  

Now if only the beltway left and the Manhattan set fall into the trap of making martyrdom for the snakes being chased out of DC. If you are going to be out of touch, then be way out of touch.

Blogger Orville January 26, 2017 2:26 PM  

The Gorebots at the EPA are committing Seppuku by "anonymously" tweeting their hissy fit against Trump's ban on the EPA. All Trump can get a quick report from Gen. Flynn as to who those people are and fire their asses. Or better yet, gut the EPA just like the State dept.

Blogger Sagramore January 26, 2017 2:26 PM  

Here are some of the Wikileaks emails related.

Blogger Dave January 26, 2017 2:26 PM  

But, first you have to promise not to use the weapons or money against the United States."

No, the first step was donating to the Clinton Foundation.

Longtime State Dept functionary P. Kennedy was one of Clinton's fixers in her email/server debacle. He was also the one who decided to reduce security in Benghazi,

Now his defense attorneys will be on him.

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 26, 2017 2:28 PM  

Wow, Ace has some great comments over there.
#ImWiththeBlackMuslim

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 26, 2017 2:31 PM  

Dave: Bingo.

Not tired of winning either.

Just sign me
#ImWithBlackMuslimKeithEllison

Blogger Ingot9455 January 26, 2017 2:31 PM  

And it's not like Trump didn't give Mexico loads of negotiating room. He made it very clear that while we will start paying for the wall, eventually, one way or another, 'and the deal may be very complex', Mexico will pay for it.

There's all kinds of ways we could get paid by Mexico very rationally in all kinds of deals and the payments could be small and spread out and add up.

For example, in addition to all the obvious things like taxing remittances, Mexico's refineries are old, breaking down, and inefficient. Mexico is shipping their heavy, tough-to-refine oil up to the US to cover their slack while they try to fix the problem, while we ship them back gas of higher quality than Pemex's. A little nip there in that deal, a fee here, a charge for sending them some of our refinery know-how and a long-term contract, and now you got it going on.

Just as Vox said, it's obvious that Trump has read his Sun Tzu. He always gives his enemies an escape if they choose to take it so that they don't fight like cornered rats in the crushing.

Anonymous old man in a villa January 26, 2017 2:37 PM  

"To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."

Sun Tzu it is then.

Blogger The Wraith January 26, 2017 2:45 PM  

@ 10...BluePony wins the Internet.

Blogger The Wraith January 26, 2017 2:45 PM  

@ 10...BluePony wins the Internet.

Blogger YIH January 26, 2017 2:53 PM  

BTW, God Emperor takes his first ride aboard Air Force 1.
Or as he might call it, ''flying coach'' ;)

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 2:54 PM  

When Spain expelled the Jews in 1492, they were allowed to take everything but their gold and silver. A collection of bling at the deporation stations could pay for a lot of concrete....

Blogger tz January 26, 2017 2:56 PM  

The chihuahua bites the ankle that feeds it and will run out into the snow instead of staying in its warm yard.

Blogger Elizabeth January 26, 2017 2:58 PM  

I have an idea for someone to manufacture a "Donald Trump A Day" box desk calendar for 2018 and on. On January 26, he did this, on January 27, he did that, through the year. Day-by-day, keeping his promise to make America great again.

According to Amazon, someone already created a 2018 Donald Trump Out of Office Calendar:

https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Trump-Office-Countdown-Calendar/dp/1492657786/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1485460390&sr=1-2

Blogger Johnny January 26, 2017 3:00 PM  

My preference is that we pay for the wall, mainly because I think pushing it on Mexico will generate more animosity than it is worth. I also think it only became an issue because the other side kept complaining about the cost.

The other side of it is that right now Mexico benefits more than we do in the relationship between our countries. If they have a hissy fit with Trump the side that gets burned will be Mexico. Given Trump's character he may want the confrontation. If so, well, so be it. Trust in the God Emperor to do the right thing.

Blogger Salt January 26, 2017 3:07 PM  

Of course WaPo's headline ... https://archive.is/sYpsR

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 3:35 PM  

It doesn't matter in the long run whether Mexico pays for the Wall. The load off our infrastructure will likely pay for it anyway. It matters because it tells people Trump keeps his word -- even the things he says that people assumed were campaign boasting. That puts his enemies further on their heels: "Holy crap, he meant all that stuff? What else did he promise off-hand? Did anyone keep track?"

That doesn't mean he won't eventually sit down with the Mexican president and work something out that looks good from both sides.

Blogger Happy LP9 January 26, 2017 3:36 PM  

Mexico and Islam don't get along either so Mexico will submit to/cooperate with POTUS Trump forever, for the next 50 years, Mesico and the Trumps will become very close as Mexico CANNOT accept the La Raza issue is not only too late and but but now stupid. As irrational as it reads the terrorism will have to spread into Mexico if Mexico continues to not cooperate.

Blogger Dave January 26, 2017 3:36 PM  

My preference is that we pay for the wall, mainly because I think pushing it on Mexico will generate more animosity than it is worth.

Uncuck thyself, Johnny. I just might be able to work up a wee bit of sympathy for Mexicans only after we start treating our veterans as well or better than Mexican illegals.

You want to put Mexicans on a pedestal? Oh mustn't do anything that would turn them off. Hell, Mexicans have been expecting a wall for decades. They disrespect us for not building the wall.

If Mexicans aren't smart enough to get onboard the Trump Train they deserve whatever they get.

Anonymous Homesteader January 26, 2017 3:47 PM  

Johnny said: My preference is that we pay for the wall, mainly because I think pushing it on Mexico will generate more animosity than it is worth. I also think it only became an issue because the other side kept complaining about the cost.

Art of the deal- take an extreme position( wall COST) then negotiate from there, so that your CORE position ( wall CONSTRUCTION) is accepted and accomplished.

Already, we've gone from "the wall will NEVER happen" to Mexico will NEVER pay for it".
Next will be "Mexico will only pay for PART of it" to

"Welcome to the El Norte Friendship Monument and National Park-Good Fences Make Good Neighbors."

Don't concern troll the God -Emperor.

Anonymous Publilius Syrus January 26, 2017 3:53 PM  

@Raymondson

"Many Albertans would like to chuck Canada all together and become a 51st state."

It depends on how much harder Nanny Notley and her 40 Thieves push their socialist/green/LGBTQWERTY agenda, as well.

Blogger pdwalker January 26, 2017 3:56 PM  

...and the week is not over...

@48 Johnny, we don't care.

For decades, Mexican nationals have been flowing across the border, taking the largess of the American workers - freely given to them by the powers that be - and it's time for that gravy train to stop dead.

Not only that, but they've brought high levels of crime, diseases and all kinds of other problems into the country while the rest of America had to suck it up.

Well, time's a changin and if they don't like it, it's just too damn bad.

Blogger Ransom Smith January 26, 2017 4:12 PM  

Part of me, wants to go full Dos a Cero and force Mexico to tear down Azteca stadium and provide it as building materials.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 26, 2017 4:17 PM  

I have to start reading Trump's tweets. I find it hilarious that he'd run a barrage of tweets telling Mexico that they're paying for the wall. I don't know how any of this is going to work out in the long run, but I will admit he's easily the most amusing president ever, IMHO. The thought of Mexico seeing a bunch of tweets basically saying "pay for this wall" is just funny. What a difference from the stodgy, ultra-serious, do-nothing cuck politicians.

Anonymous Fundude January 26, 2017 4:20 PM  

I was a bit annoyed that Saudi Arabia wasn't on the list of countries where immigration would be restricted, but as a practical matter the State Department has to be cleansed of all its KSA moles before meaningful restriction could be pursued.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 4:27 PM  

I'd guess most people, even his supporters, assumed that he'd stop tweeting after he took office, maybe turn it over to an Office of Social Media Engagement or something. The fact that he's kept tweeting, with the same attitude, was one way we knew well before the inauguration that he wasn't going to turn moderate.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 26, 2017 4:39 PM  

@58 Trump doesn't give a damn about what his enemies say the rules are. It's so refreshing.

Blogger Robert What? January 26, 2017 5:52 PM  

I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

Blogger Avalanche January 26, 2017 5:52 PM  

@32 "Many Albertans would like to chuck Canada all together and become a 51st state."

I'd vote for that! Still gonna build the pipeline with American steel though.

Blogger Silly But True January 26, 2017 6:00 PM  

And unlike every politician (Hillary and Cruz, et. al.) his tweets are (most likely) by his own hand.

At this time in media history, his tweeting is one of his greatest weapons.

There's no reason to modify or moderate its use.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 6:02 PM  

@60
I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.



If we don't control the border, the country ceases to exist and you'll wind up having to move anyway. Maybe on short notice with just what you can carry.

Stop cucking.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 6:12 PM  

I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

No it can't. That's just silly.

Anonymous Loki7 January 26, 2017 6:23 PM  

No more NAFTA = no more Modalo.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 6:27 PM  

@64 Loki7
Dude, I'm sure that Mexican beer was imported before the 1990's. It might cost a few cents more, that's all.

@60
I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

If we don't control the borders, the country dissolves, and you'll wind up moving anyway. Maybe on short notice with what you can carry.

Stop cucking.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 26, 2017 6:38 PM  

Robert What? wrote:I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

The solution is not ``no wall,'' but ``no tyrants.'' We must keep the left from power. Building the wall will help with that.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 26, 2017 7:05 PM  

@Desert Rat Amen, every bit of what you wrote I have been thinking myself. It's truly extraordinary. And amazing that there are still those on the right (and certain libertarians) who should see this themselves now, but are still stuck on the same old "Trump is a clown" and similar.

Open your f'ing eyes people!

Blogger John rockwell January 26, 2017 7:09 PM  

The cartels wouldn't be so powerful without the drug money pouring over the border. Not only would the wall reduce their power but force mexicans into a corner provided they have guns and they will fight like crazy against the cartels and maybe even the government.

Anonymous 11B January 26, 2017 7:36 PM  

Vincente Fox is, and has been, going off on Trump on Twitter. I think this will make Trump that much more determined to follow through. I don't see how Trump can give an inch now that Fox has made this so personal.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 7:39 PM  

The solution is not ``no wall,'' but ``no tyrants.''

Bingo. If America ever reaches a level of tyranny where people are trying to escape and can't, it won't be because of a 2500-mile wall on one border.

Blogger Buybuydandavis January 26, 2017 7:44 PM  

UPDATE: They were kicked out.

Give up their position in the landed aristocracy voluntarily?

Sounded very unlikely to me. Particularly with the true Ruling Reptiles. They're not the Outer Party dupes. They just want power and ease. You have to crow bar them off their vested sinecures.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 26, 2017 7:52 PM  

Loki7 wrote:No more NAFTA = no more Modalo.
Stop being a pussyand learn to make beer. It's easy. You grandfathers 10,000 years ago made beer with nothing but barley, water, clay pots and hot stones.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 26, 2017 7:53 PM  

Buybuydandavis wrote:UPDATE: They were kicked out.

Give up their position in the landed aristocracy voluntarily?

Sounded very unlikely to me.

Tillerson visited in the morning. In the afternoon, every damn one of them hands in his resignation.
Not a coincidence. And no, not voluntary.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 26, 2017 7:54 PM  

Obama kept giving speeches after he took office. Why would the G-E stop tweeting? It's his communication mefium5

Blogger Buybuydandavis January 26, 2017 8:03 PM  

YIH wrote:BTW, God Emperor takes his first ride aboard Air Force 1.

Or as he might call it, ''flying coach'' ;)


Bumper sticker on Air Force One:
My other Ride is
Trump Force One

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 8:06 PM  

@69
Vincente Fox is, and has been, going off on Trump on Twitter.

Yeah, he's the one who angrily said "We won't pay for that fucking wall" last year. Oh, yeah. Has-been Presidente, who robbed the Mexican people while in office, trying to gum on Trump's ankles like an aging Pekenese waddling out from under the sofa?

Excellent. Moar lulz on the way!

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2017 8:10 PM  

Oh, and Mean Mr. Market smacked the Peso around for a while today after the Mexican Presidente had his snit fit. Down 1% may not sound like much, but that was in a few hours.

It's not amateur hour anymore.

Anonymous Mathias January 26, 2017 8:31 PM  

@72

You forgot the Yeast. No booze without Yeast.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 26, 2017 8:44 PM  

@Brian S
"off topic, but hilarious..."

It's almost as if, when you put up the equivalent of a sign that says "lolcow here," with an arrow, people are going to troll the f4ck out of you, until you crack. Or something. The fact that LaBeouf's breakdown came in the form of attacking one of his own supporters is just the icing on the cake.

Blogger Lazarus January 26, 2017 9:02 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Tillerson visited in the morning. In the afternoon, every damn one of them hands in his resignation.

A diagram of the carnage

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 26, 2017 9:05 PM  

Mathias wrote:You forgot the Yeast. No booze without Yeast.
Yeast is naturally occurring. Literally, just put your wort out to cool with no cover, and 95% of the time you'll get a yeast growing within 24 hours. That's where Belgian beers come from.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 26, 2017 9:07 PM  

Down 1% may not sound like much, but that was in a few hours.

While the US economy is just starting a post-Obama bounce. The big globalist corporations may not be happy, and who knows what they'll do with the stock market, and we're still buried in debt. But small businesses are breathing a sigh of relief, knowing that they won't have an enemy in the White House for the first time in 8 years -- maybe 20-30 years. Some might even start to think it's safe to consider hiring and expansion again.

Blogger Steven MqCueen January 26, 2017 9:11 PM  

While I support the President in his effort to get Mexico to pay for the wall, I hope he doesn't so antagonize the Mexican public as to create long-lasting hostility.

The Mexicans will always be our neighbors. We shouldn't want them to be be angry ones.

Blogger CynicalMan January 26, 2017 9:15 PM  

NAFTA is Trump's hole card for getting Mexico to pay for the wall. If Mexico wants favorable trade they will have to stop the illegal immigration and the only way they will be able to do that is by paying for the wall.

Blogger American Spartan January 26, 2017 9:46 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:The solution is not ``no wall,'' but ``no tyrants.'' We must keep the left from power. Building the wall will help with that.

This, if the left is allowed to mint these illegals into welfare voters its game over, walls, deportations, ending birthright citzenship, limit legal immigration. We will have the Senate and Congress after 2018 then 2 years of total control.

Never mind stacking the court of maybe 3 more judges.

Blogger American Spartan January 26, 2017 9:48 PM  

Steven MqCueen wrote:While I support the President in his effort to get Mexico to pay for the wall, I hope he doesn't so antagonize the Mexican public as to create long-lasting hostility.

The Mexicans will always be our neighbors. We shouldn't want them to be be angry ones.


Ever know a mexican that was not mad over something small and meaningless?

What are they going to do? Riot? They can do nothing after the wall is built, they are mad about it because they KNOW it is going to work.

Blogger Johnny January 26, 2017 9:51 PM  

Mexico is close to being a failed state. If we start pushing them around what could easily happen is that the country will be so easy to push over and become so internally screwed up that it will turn into a blowback embarrassment for us. That is part of what happened to our occupation of the Philippines.

And you can say you don't give a rip all you want, but if the public at large in the US doesn't like it, that is called losing political support. Not a good thing.

Blogger SirHamster January 26, 2017 10:29 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:I'm a Trump supporter but I have mixed feelings about the wall. As others have observed, it can someday be used just as easily to keep Americans from leaving.

No it can't. That's just silly.


If your best escape from America is Mexico, the presence or lack of a Southern border wall won't change all that much.

Blogger Lazarus January 26, 2017 11:27 PM  

Johnny wrote:Mexico is close to being a failed state.

All the more reason to wall it off, Agent Johnny. Otherwise the US of A will be a failed state as well.

Blogger Lazarus January 26, 2017 11:33 PM  

Steven MqCueen wrote:While I support the President in his effort to get Mexico to pay for the wall, I hope he doesn't so antagonize the Mexican public as to create long-lasting hostility.

Yah, right. These are the same people that have a monument in Guadalajara to commemorate the glorious victory of the Mexican forces at the Alamo. They are still pissed about the invasion of US forces in the Mexican-American War.

Grow.teh.f4ck.up.

Anonymous Jack January 26, 2017 11:34 PM  

"We won't have columns. Do you understand that?"

Blogger Lazarus January 26, 2017 11:37 PM  

Lotta OSF agents out tonight.

Anonymous Jack January 26, 2017 11:46 PM  

The LA Times is running an article about what happened when they built a wall between El Paso and Juarez: "... protesters complained that building the barrier was like cutting off circulation to America's own limb. It was no surprise ... when the city on the Mexican side of the border fence began to wither and die. As Juarez descended into years of drug-fueled violence, El Paso thrived, ranking among the safest cities in the U.S."

The press doesn't even understand the significance of the facts they report, when they bother to report facts at all. Apparently it was not circulation to America's limb that was cut off by the wall.

But obviously we can't build the wall, because we wouldn't want the American side to thrive and become safe. That would be wrong.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el-paso-and-juarez-know-what-happens-when-a-wall-divides-two-cities/ar-AAmgVDM

Blogger Lazarus January 27, 2017 12:00 AM  

It is quite simple. The Wall is part of an immune system. Combats disease. Public safety and economic issue.

Let the beaners sort out their own shit. Have another revolution or whatever. Just do it on your own turf.

Blogger Johnny January 27, 2017 12:05 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Johnny wrote:Mexico is close to being a failed state.

All the more reason to wall it off, Agent Johnny. Otherwise the US of A will be a failed state as well.


When you assume to expand my comments beyond what I actually said you end up talking past me. Which is your privilege, but not actually a rebuttal of my comments Agent Lazarus.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 27, 2017 12:21 AM  

If Mexico's economy is failing, it needs all the ambitious, hard-working, Christian, family-oriented, natural conservatives it can get. We have 10-20 million Mexicans by that description in the US, so the sooner we help them get home and save their nation, the better, right?

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 12:54 AM  

I'm not as wise as you guys... but I have cremated a few...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqdL6bTiMhE

Girls will be girls...

On the other hand... a promise made is promise said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNZwuamwj0

Blogger Johnny January 27, 2017 12:54 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:If Mexico's economy is failing, it needs all the ambitious, hard-working, Christian, family-oriented, natural conservatives it can get. We have 10-20 million Mexicans by that description in the US, so the sooner we help them get home and save their nation, the better, right?

If Mexico goes over we should avoid the appearance that we have pushed them over. Or at the least avoid the appearance that we did it for reasons that are vengeful or mean spirited.

Lets see,

As (apparently) we are funding the wall up front, we can build the wall and put off demanding payment into the future. That is, we leave our options open.

Surely we can stop or greatly slow the influx of illegal aliens.(The wall along with enforcement.)

Surely we can deport Mexicans who have committed criminal acts.

Now still pretty politically safe,

Deport Mexicans that are living at our expense.

See to it that jobs go first to Americans and legal immigrants, effectively causing a lot of Mexicans to self deport for want of employment.

Call this the low hanging fruit policy. Do what is easy and obvious first and then progress depending on the future circumstance.

Also (I agree) it may will be that we can not come to terms with Mexico, and if we can't then the reasons for accommodation are minimal.

And if Trump wants to take an initial hard line, which is his tendency, I leave that to him. That is tactics rather than the anticipated outcome.

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 12:57 AM  

Women had to look good... or else...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqdL6bTiMhE

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:00 AM  

Girls will be girls...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50PE5EZrruY

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:02 AM  

No spot of ground....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxa-YpsXyQg

ride boldly ride....

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:03 AM  

While you're napping...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BefliMlEzZ8

Anonymous Discard January 27, 2017 1:06 AM  

He should make the Mexicans pay because he said he'd make the Mexicans pay. Next time, they'll believe him.

Anonymous Discard January 27, 2017 1:09 AM  

A professional Foreign Service officer who abandons his country because he doesn't like the new President isn't worth having. Traitor. Fuck his dead ass.

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:10 AM  

The scarlet stains of commies left...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4iqBU3X4Ro

Princes be princes.

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:19 AM  

Come on... expose yourself...

The Tyger
William Blake, 1757 - 1827

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare sieze the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:21 AM  

Dead men... they are just dead...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFd3Dvofxyw

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 27, 2017 1:22 AM  

@87 Johnny

Mexico is close to being a failed state.

Only by first world standards. By Latin American standards, i.e. compared to Venezuela, or Argentina, or Paraguay, it's doing fine.

Stop cucking. You aren't being paid enough, for sure.

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:25 AM  

You've been gone... come home...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a6A6oTFdcw

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:29 AM  

Trump... THE KILLER!... Montezuma's Zuma's revenge...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijrkKNZRIfM

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:31 AM  

Sail away... dead man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-S9lrnLZ8

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:35 AM  

Rape in the arroyo... some call it heavenly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgssdCS8VpU

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:47 AM  

Dirty gals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDixDqAUh0

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:53 AM  

No girls allowed at our bus stop...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXp11XZcs08&list=PL5wyObsctUuiDYONriUWF341WY1m6YAXw

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 1:56 AM  

A man of knowlege is screwed... a child is better... weigh it... knowlege is bad bad bad...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJoNopvr_E


Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 2:03 AM  

Aztecs are indeed sly devils... and their women are bad bad bad... you gringos... oh boy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbdhZZKvA5c

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 2:06 AM  

Those women will fuck you up! First with one hand... then with the other. Pressure and vibes begin.

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 2:09 AM  

Well duh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9mQheLc70

Blogger Bosefus January 27, 2017 2:14 AM  

Duh... the left just don't fit in... life has a jolly good laugh on them... they just dont fit in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9mQheLc70

Anonymous TS January 27, 2017 3:01 AM  

"Mexico is close to being a failed state. If we start pushing them around what could easily happen is that the country will be so easy to push over and become so internally screwed up that it will turn into a blowback embarrassment for us. That is part of what happened to our occupation of the Philippines."

Uhhh no. Bad comparison. The US is not occupying Mexico. What do you have against brown people? You sound racist. Can't brown people take care of their own societies without the white mans help?

Anonymous TS January 27, 2017 3:07 AM  

Cue the White Man's Burden apologists...

Anonymous TS January 27, 2017 3:09 AM  

"That is part of what happened to our occupation of the Philippines."

LOL. Where the White Man's Burden "idea" was hatched.

Anonymous jacopo January 27, 2017 6:38 AM  

What does the State Department news mean for the Kaganate of Nuland?

Blogger Lazarus January 27, 2017 7:07 AM  

Johnny wrote:If Mexico goes over we should avoid the appearance that we have pushed them over. Or at the least avoid the appearance that we did it for reasons that are vengeful or mean spirited.

Trump already covered that. Said it is a public safety, economic and sovereignty issue. Nothing mean-spirited about that. As far as APPEARING mean-spirited, one could help an old lady across the street and his enemies could make it APPEAR mean-spirited. Keeping up appearances is no way to make serious public policy.

Blogger wreckage January 27, 2017 9:38 AM  

@97, politically, doing the easy first then dribbling out ever-harder policies is suicide. If difficult policies are to be pursued they must be pursued early and aggressively.

Blogger Johnny January 27, 2017 10:30 AM  

Thinking about us getting in a fight with Mexico reminds me of a local incident. This guy went out with his drinking buddy who happened to be a midget. Later they got in an argument while imbibed and he pushed the midget. Anyway, the midget fell over and then went and died on him. (true story)

Now where do you go with this? Nobody wants to lose a fight with a midget. Who knows, maybe they are given to low blows. On the other side of it, you can't actually brag that you killed a midget with one blow. So, you know, your basic no win situation.

Blogger Johnny January 27, 2017 10:38 AM  

Mexico is a perennially corrupt Latin country that has considerable difficulty dealing with the narco gangs. Currently parts of the country are being policed with military units owing to the ineffective local police. There is a increase in violence in most areas and unsafe areas for foreigners are now commonplace, which surely must hurt the expat community and the tourist trade. Plus the government is not putting enough money into its nationalized oil industry, and thus losing revenue both from both lack of production and the now lower price for oil.

Surely we should keep that culture from spreading into the US, but there is not going to be anything heroic about any dispute we might have with them. You know, no proof of virility, etc..

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 27, 2017 11:50 AM  

@jacopo

"What does the State Department news mean for the Kaganate of Nuland?"

It's been reported, but not confirmed, that the primary architect of the Ukraine coup is one of the casualties.

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