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Saturday, January 21, 2017

Pursuant to the previous

One shot at MILO event at the University of Washington:
A planned speech by controversial Breitbart.com editor Milo Yiannopoulos was delayed Friday evening before a man in the crowd outside the University of Washington venue was shot in the abdomen.

Seattle police announced an arrest in the shooting early Saturday and called the man a "person of interest" who was being questioned after turning himself into UW police. The university had tweeted a description of a possible suspect as an Asian male, 50 years old, 5-foot-7, 190 pounds, no facial hair, wearing a yellow cap and a black jacket.

Harborview Medical Center spokeswoman Susan Gregg told The Associated Press that the 32-year-old victim, previously identified as 25, arrived at the hospital at 9 p.m. and that he was in surgery. After the shooting, the university urged people to avoid that area of campus near Red Square, which had seen a large police presence much of the night. By 11 p.m., all but a few stragglers had left the large plaza.

The shooting and accompanying violence outside the Yiannopoulos event marred what had been a long day of largely peaceful protest in the streets of Seattle.

Seattle Police Chief Kathleen O'Toole told a late-night press conference that there had been "no arrests, no serious injuries, very little use of force by police and several successful demonstrations of free speech" before the UW incident.

"Seattle has a long, proud tradition of speaking up and speaking out, but we will not tolerate violence of any kind, against any person," Mayor Ed Murray said in a written statement Friday night. "Thousands of Seattleites, including myself, will speak up and march peacefully throughout this weekend."

The shooting came almost an hour after officials stopped allowing entry to people with tickets for the Kane Hall lecture by Yiannopoulos, a leading white nationalist figure who has been banned from Twitter for harassment. The event had been oversold, as Yiannopoulos's supporters and detractors scrambled to pack the speech.
Red Square. Indeed. Anyhow, as I wrote previously, be prepared. They're working themselves up to more serious violence.

Fascinating to see how MILO has been transformed into "a leading white nationalist figure".

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Icicle January 21, 2017 5:37 AM  

Is he back to being gay too?

Blogger The Kurgan January 21, 2017 5:45 AM  

Ah yes... pouncing on Milo's well-known racism I suppose. Seriously... fake news indeed.

Blogger SteelPalm January 21, 2017 5:59 AM  

An impressive number of leftist lies in that article.

"Largely peaceful." Except for the baseball bats, sharpened sticks, paintball guns, fists, and someone being shot.

Just how the BLM "protests" in Dallas were peaceful prior to 5 cops being killed.

"no arrests, no serious injuries, very little use of force by police and several successful demonstrations of free speech" before the UW incident.

Yes, because the Seattle police are worthless, leftist-controlled chickenshits who didn't do their job, and laughed at speech attendees who requested protection against the Marxist thugs.

Here is a video showing what really happened;

https://twitter.com/GabeCohenKOMO/status/822655413783003138

Also, the comments under this Breitbart article, including those of many attendees, are illuminating;

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/01/20/milo-fan-uw-appears-covered-facial-wounds-paint/

But cool, they have introduced guns into the equation. We will adjust and proceed accordingly.

Blogger Koanic January 21, 2017 6:09 AM  

I suppose that makes Hitler a leading Jewish Zionist figure.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2017 6:39 AM  

Ya know, one of the problems with Riot Control in the US is that the police, for the most part, use the Army's RC manual, which is almost utterly worthless. There was only one group in the Army that was worth a damn at RC - and, no, it was neither the MPs nor the 82d - and it's long gone now (and forgot how to do it by 1988, or so, in any case). Add to a shitty manual, vomiting a shitty doctrine, training that is shittier still, all form and no substance, in both the military and the police and, well...we're helpless. We have no valid and useful defense against a riot. We have no idea how to contain one, no idea how to train the troops to suppress one. We simply suck.

You can find the manual here: https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-FM3-19-15.pdf

I feel a column coming on.

Anonymous Jordi January 21, 2017 6:51 AM  

As Lenin said

"Peace is absence of opposition to socialism"

In those "pissfull protests", socialism is not opposed at all

Anonymous simplytimothy January 21, 2017 6:51 AM  

at least these commies will not have the powers of the fedgov behind them.

Anonymous Rocklea January 21, 2017 7:15 AM  

"largely peacefull protest" is one of the search terms Colin Flaherty uses to find incidents of black mob violence for his excellent youtube channel.

Also Milo's gayness has been revoked.

President Donald J Trump's; boy that just rolls off the tongue with smile doesn't it?; reintroduction of law and order and the alt media's support of law enforcement should encourage smarter people to join the police force, thereby forcing the idiots to quit.

Anonymous Philipp January 21, 2017 7:21 AM  

People are slowly waking up that there is a cold civil war going on and that every violent incident, every riot, every "hate crime" brings the outbreak of the second civil war closer.

Anonymous Eduardo January 21, 2017 7:23 AM  

He is too fabulous to be m8. He is a faggot. A fabulous faggot

Blogger Lazarus January 21, 2017 7:24 AM  

Tom Kratman wrote:Ya know, one of the problems with Riot Control in the US is that the police, for the most part, use the Army's RC manual, which is almost utterly worthless.

Is it that, or a lack of will, or fear of litigation?

Draconian suppression of protest led to the downfall of the Tsar and the end to the British Raj in India.

Anonymous Rocklea January 21, 2017 7:24 AM  

Why not an en masse reintroduction of deputizing, I think the strength of the Sheriff could be a pivotal thing. Decentralized and they would own the Feds.

Anonymous Eduardo January 21, 2017 7:25 AM  

Stupid typos and word-eating!!!! ò_ó

I meant he is too awesome to be gay!

Anonymous Laz January 21, 2017 7:25 AM  

"...should encourage smarter people to join the police force, thereby forcing the idiots to quit."

You don't get hired as an LEO if you're over a certain IQ. Smart people question shitty orders.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 21, 2017 7:30 AM  

@5 Tom Kratman

The Marines weren't bad at it during the Rodney King riots in LA.

There was a famous incident where a cop said to the squad that was with them, "cover me".

Two hundred rounds were instantly poured into the building they were about to breech. No one was killed or injured and after the cops stopped screaming, "cease fire!" The perps in question ran out of the building and jumped into the police cars.

But that was the incident that is credited with getting the Marines seriously looking into non-lethal weapons for a while. Of course we forgot all about that crap when we finally had a real war again.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 21, 2017 7:32 AM  

Draconian suppression of protest led to the downfall of the Tsar and the end to the British Raj in India.

No it was ineffective suppression of protest. There's a difference.

Blogger Gordon January 21, 2017 7:38 AM  

You have to understand that city police chiefs report to the mayor. Not the council, not the people (as a sheriff does). If the mayor of Seattle doesn't want violent protesters arrested, then they won't be. If the mayor wants the cops to crack down, then heads will feel the impact.

You need to remember that cops have good pay and lush pensions. They do not want to risk those things. Busting heads when the mayor does not want heads busted will cost you. Getting fired (and possibly prosecuted) for injuring a mostly peaceful protester will cost you.

But ignoring a citizen's appeal for protection from mob violence will cost you nothing at all. Police have no obligation to protect citizens. Better to stand back, ignore your conscience and think about that sweet, sweet pension.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 21, 2017 7:42 AM  

"who has been banned from Twitter for harassment"

Yep, that's just how I remember it. No question about it, no need to insert "allegedly" or "so-called," just a straightforward banning for cause. Yessiree.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2017 7:48 AM  

@11:

Whether it's Draconian or not, or needs to be, depends on the nature of the riot. We like to claim we've never gone to use of full force in riot control, but that's bullshit. Look, for example, to the 1863 New York Draft Riots and canister in the streets.

But there are just so many other things that the manual is clueless on, so many bits of needless trivia that take up space when there are more important things to worry about.

Example, hand and arm signals. Why bother? Use a handheld loudspeaker.

Example, shoulder to shoulder, "hut, hut, hut." Why bother? You're never going to have enough troops for that.

Going to enough troops, tactical ignorance. One mention of concertina (and that's all there is, just one) is not enough to cover that a) it is your primary weapon and technique in keeping clear areas that you've cleared of the riot, and b) the troops need to be drilled silly on rapid construction of concertina fences. No, the engineers are probably not going to be available.

There are not enough shields to go around, though there are probably enough for the generally incompetent (at RC) MPs. So what do you do? How about making shields in a hurry from plywood and redundant LCE and moving the protective masks in front of the crotch?

And the emphasis on law enforcement shows the origin of the manual, MPs who have never trained to or really done control of a riot.

Psychological: Never (What never? No, _fucking_ never!) capture a female rioter. Shoot the bitch if she's a clear and present danger (molotov, firearm) or push her back with loss of dignity and pain, but do NOT capture her even if she is a wanted criminal. Why? When you capture a female, it motivates the ever loving shit out of the mass of the male rioters to save their womenfolk. Yes, just like it would with us.

And do not leave to the press, which is the enemy, the sole capability of filming the riot. Have your own camera teams out there to tell the other side of the story that the press will suppress.

Just for a few.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2017 7:53 AM  

@15.

Yeah, I remember laughing my ass off about that one, CS. Note, though, that that's an example of inability to control a riot resulting from ignorance, too, because the Marines shouldn't have been issued ammunition, generally, but only 3-5 men per company. That, or ammunition enough for those 3-5 but held by the officers and senior non-coms until needed.

I saw a battalion of Marine Redlegs do a very good job, by the way, of suppressing the riots in the Haitian internment camps on GTMO, in 92. That, however, was a very permissive environment, in that a) we were not all that badly outnumbered by the Haitians in RC terms, and b) the Haitians were conditioned to / terrorized by cops who were simply vicious if balked and so folded very quickly once we demonstrated a little resolve.

Blogger pyrrhus January 21, 2017 7:54 AM  

The riot actually seems to have been pretty violent, with bricks being thrown at cops, but as others have pointed out, Seattle is very leftist and the police aren't going to risk their jobs.

Anonymous Rocklea January 21, 2017 7:55 AM  

@17 Gordon said:
"You have to understand that city police chiefs report to the mayor. Not the council, not the people (as a sheriff does). If the mayor of Seattle doesn't want violent protesters arrested, then they won't be. If the mayor wants the cops to crack down, then heads will feel the impact."

It's good point, your quite right. I wouldn't expect the 'Chocolate cities' as Colin Flaherty calls them to change that much, except of course getting worse. My point is that the towns under Sheriff's jurisdiction would highlight a stark difference to the public. Combined with a raised public awareness of jury nullification to combat over zealous prosecutors, this could create pressure from below to inspire mayors to act in the public interest, as well as pressure from above from Trumps tweets. Sorry, I mean President Trump.

"Boy these Sheriffs are doing a great job, whats wrong with inner cities? I think they need Sheriffs"

Blogger Trid January 21, 2017 8:10 AM  

Wow this made VP. I had no idea Milo was here, I was just getting UW emails about the shooting. Could the shooter be a roof Korean?

Blogger Salt January 21, 2017 8:10 AM  

Leftists, SJWs, commies... enjoying the fruits of percussion grenades in DC, perpetrating a shooting in Seattle, and generally employing mayhem of thrown Star-Bricks. Yeah, the self-described toleranti. These people need to be crusaded against.

OpenID randkoch January 21, 2017 8:24 AM  

Looks like an instance where Milo was genuinely harmed by Twitter's outrageous claims against him.

The day when any leftist can say they support freedom of speech is over.

Blogger Elocutioner January 21, 2017 9:14 AM  

If organize a riot you need to be accountable. Start going after the organizers and money men HARD and this will largely end. Round up and ID every rioter, map the networks.

Blogger tuberman January 21, 2017 9:42 AM  

#26
"If organize a riot you need to be accountable. Start going after the organizers and money men HARD and this will largely end. Round up and ID every rioter, map the networks."

Good steps!

Blogger Otto Lamp January 21, 2017 9:43 AM  

The left continues to use yesterday's playbook.

Shutting down free speech with protests, riots, and violence loses the left the moral high ground.

Anonymous Stickwick January 21, 2017 9:44 AM  

They're working themselves up to more serious violence.

Against the side that is far better armed and with much more experience with physical conflict. Either the restraint of the civilized has lulled these morons into a false sense of superiority or they are insane. Probably both.

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 21, 2017 10:19 AM  

Stickwick, not just restraint, though. Richard Spencer got punched yesterday because he wasn't prepared to defend himself. That is an ideological inconsistency on his part: you've got to back up your beliefs in self-determination, liberty and self-defense by actually showing some form of preparedness to defend them in public.

Not saying you'll never get punched, but you are a fool to let them catch you making the same mistake twice on camera.

A gay boy scout would have been more prepared than Spencer was yesterday. The shooter should have been shot by carriers yesterday. Laziness, not restraint has been the Right's main problem.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl January 21, 2017 10:26 AM  

I've generally had a simple rule - someone hits you, hit them back. Of course, numbers and escape plans matter and so on.

But we're getting the moral high ground now, and with media distrust at 95%, any regular person hearing the news about "peaceful protests" will know "leftist riots and attacks." A Trump guy punches a "protester" will click as "self defense".

Winning, eh?

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 21, 2017 10:43 AM  

The post-inauguaration behavior of the leftists makes their post-election behavior seem moderate. Guess we will have to do things the hard way.

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes January 21, 2017 10:44 AM  

@26,27. There are only a small number of people who organize these things. The ones who show up at riots wear black and hide their faces so that they cannot be identified. The rest don't mind.

The reason the few fear identification is that they can get charged with conspiracy across state lines. Their crime is a federal one.

With Trump running the FBI and Justice department, these clowns are going to get prosecuted. As soon as they are sufficiently attritted, by legal means or otherwise, I think that most of the destructive riots (well, at least the more or less white riots) will go away. And if the blacks riot in their own neighborhoods, well, nobody cares.

In addition, the left is going to be suffering from "compassion fatigue". They're going to get tired of rioting with zero results. So I'm guessing that a year from now most of this will be over and done.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 21, 2017 11:03 AM  

The post-inauguaration behavior of the leftists makes their post-election behavior seem moderate.

Which is how you know this is being produced and organized. We saw the organic reaction of the left immediately after the election: a tantrum followed by tears. That's when the shock really hit them and their reaction should have been the strongest.

So what's happening now is either a secondary tantrum that will fade away like the first, or it's organized sedition and criminal behavior that can be investigated and prosecuted. That means you don't just charge the dumbass who broke the store window; you find out who recruited him, and on up the chain to the real culprits.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 21, 2017 11:13 AM  

Stickwick wrote:They're working themselves up to more serious violence.

Against the side that is far better armed and with much more experience with physical conflict. Either the restraint of the civilized has lulled these morons into a false sense of superiority or they are insane. Probably both.


That may be true at the end of the day, but thus far the left has not ever had to deal with any serious threat of counterattack. Take the aftermath of the martyrdom of St. Swisher the Sweet Gentle Giant of Fergudishu. Scores of whites murdered nationwide, with cover-up by (((fake news))), aid and assistance from prosecutors and police (a number of whom were also killed). No counterattacks on dindus, BLM, (((fake news))), etc. Darren Wilson was basically forced to resign for defending his own life - last I read he works at Wal-Mart elsewhere in the country.

There's a massive swamp to be drained. As noted above, Trump will need to basically purge the FBI and DOJ, which is filled to overflowing with SJW operatives and willing accessories to all manner of actual criminal activity. Don't expect any serious prosecutions in places like Washington state, California, Illinois or the Northeast either. All are basically enemy territory.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 21, 2017 11:14 AM  

Riots are funny critters, people will do things they should never normally do and they don't know why. Back during the Rodney king Ross we had a kid throw a Molotov into a dumpster and it burned the occupied building next to the dumpster. The kid was facing serious prison time when he was asked why he did something do stupid and dangerous he said, "they beat Martin Luther king". We told him it was a different king that Martin Luther king died before he was born but he kept insisting that was who the cops beat.

Somebody said,"well go let James earl Ray out then because king isn't dead."

That idiot kid was typical. The rioters neither knew nor cared why they were rioting. But they acted even stupider in groups. I've had to put down several riots, some you can fight and some you cannot. Now it's been twenty something years since I've done something like that but I bet rioters haven't changed. Stupid, violent, and only force or the absolute certainty of force in their minds will stop them.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 21, 2017 11:27 AM  

We've changed over the years how we handle a riot. The reason we generally cannot handle them properly is that the rioters are actually working towards the same interests as the people in charge. If a group formed a mob to say, take a pedophile from police custody and lynch him it would be met with deadly force. If the right was protesting Milo because he really was a 'fabulous faggot' and his tour was celebrating getting sodomized by black men they would end the protests before they started and prosecute the organizers.

It is all who-whom just look at the Malheur peaceful sit ins. The government worked hard to radicalize it so they could justify lethal force (however flimsily). And they shot a guy at a traffic stop.

As long as the left is in control of institutions riots from the left will be 'mostly peaceful protests'. Group action on the right will be dangerous insurrection and treated as such. That needs to change or we'll never take back our country.

Blogger Kevin Smith January 21, 2017 11:33 AM  

The left can smash windows and burn cars, and in the end it's always a "largely peaceful protest".

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 21, 2017 11:42 AM  

The left can shoot and kill people and it is still a 'largely peaceful protest'. The violent ones have 'hijacked the protest' or are 'lone actors' with no connection to the peaceful, legitimate protest and their patriotic organizers.

I was a kid during the looting back in the sixties. My grandfather heard about the looting and was grimly happy he thought they would shoot the looters thus bringing the riots to an end. When that didn't happen he knew things had changed.

Blogger Ezekiel January 21, 2017 12:11 PM  

Self-defense is well and good, but I wonder if "retaliate and escalate" might be called for at this point. They bust the nose on one of our leaders, we bust the kneecaps on one of theirs. They put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of theirs in the morgue. If they want violence we'll give 'em violence, because we're a lot better at it than they'll ever be.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 21, 2017 12:21 PM  

*** Turning into ultras intensifies ***

Blogger Avalanche January 21, 2017 12:50 PM  

@2 "pouncing on Milo's well-known racism I suppose."

of course he's gay - he apparently doesn't (or rarely?) sleep with WHITE men!

Blogger Avalanche January 21, 2017 12:50 PM  

oops. meant: "racist"

Blogger Cecil Henry January 21, 2017 1:34 PM  

'A leading white nationalist'.

The media discredit themselves on so many levels.

They are laughably inept at their own narratives, transparent in their pleading for a lie they can't even execute.

Anonymous BBGKB January 21, 2017 1:40 PM  

The university had tweeted a description of a possible suspect as an Asian male, 50 years old, 5-foot-7, 190

Don't tell me (((they))) are using Asian for desert didndu like the UK does.

Just how the BLM "protests" in Dallas were peaceful prior to 5 cops being killed.

They were still said to be peaceful protests even after it, funny it was for a convicted child sex offender with a gun.

Blogger Kristophr January 21, 2017 1:41 PM  

The Democrats wore out "Racist", so now they are calling everyone they hate "Nazi".

My bet is that the shooter was attacked by some Black Bloc trog with a rock.

Blogger Kristophr January 21, 2017 1:42 PM  

Icicle wrote:Is he back to being gay too?

All your Queers are belong to us.

Blogger Kristophr January 21, 2017 1:48 PM  

Steelpalm " ... But cool, they have introduced guns into the equation. We will adjust and proceed accordingly."

The fact that the shooter turned himself in leads me to think this was a self defense shoot vs. an armed leftist troglodyte. A dumbass leftard brought a rock to a gunfight.

Blogger Kristophr January 21, 2017 1:53 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:Ya know, one of the problems with Riot Control in the US is that the police, for the most part, use the Army's RC manual, which is almost utterly worthless.

...


I vaguely recall a description of a riot in India, where the riot act was read, and then a political official spent the next few minutes with a sniper and spotter, carefully ordering the shooting of each leader and loudmouth, until the riot dispersed itself.

Blogger lowercaseb January 21, 2017 2:14 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Stickwick, not just restraint, though. Richard Spencer got punched yesterday because he wasn't prepared to defend himself.

Whereas Gavin McInnes punched back hard.

Granted, the videos I saw with Spencer cut off after he got punched, so we don't know if he jumped back up and went after the suckerpuncher. That's the important part. The antifas are doing it because they see that they can. Now if that clip of Spencer showed him getting sucker punched and then the fruit ninja doing it getting a boot party after...people might think twice.

However, the one good thing that came out of it. I can't speak for anyone else...but I am getting lazy and complacent after the election. We were ready to fight right after, but the serious riots never showed...at least in my area. We had riots, but they were about the same level as what you get when the Raiders lose or win a game in Oakland.

Looks like its time to hit the gym again.

Blogger lowercaseb January 21, 2017 2:29 PM  

BTW... Col Kratman, Please write a new article about riots and urban unrest. that would even make a great series. I'd have no problem backing that request up with funds if you have a tip jar. I put my money where my mouth is when I ask for something I can't do myself.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2017 2:31 PM  

@50:

NO worries, I get paid well for my columns. And, yes, I think a bit of that is in order, right after Monday's "Free at last. Free at last. Praise God Almighty, I'm free at last."

Blogger Jed Mask January 21, 2017 2:40 PM  

... Ouch. Gotta pray. Amen.

Blogger Sagramore January 21, 2017 2:42 PM  

@12 Why not an en masse reintroduction of deputizing

Expense. Ask New Brunswick, Canada what happened when they were forced to deputies all 911 operators and how much it cost them.

Blogger Geir Balderson January 21, 2017 3:08 PM  

Notice how the 'tolerant' left always,, I mean ALWAYS, is so frickin' violent!!

Makes me want to go out and melt a snowflake!

Anonymous Rolf January 21, 2017 3:14 PM  

@20 - I'd love to see a "proper" riot control manual, or even a good bullet-point list of principles to follow. It could be the basis of any number of good mil S/F stories. I'm assuming "fix bayonets" has it's place, as do pikes and weapon-cams.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 21, 2017 3:38 PM  

Don't tell me (((they))) are using Asian for desert didndu like the UK does.

It's Seattle. 'Asian' almost certainly means 'Oriental.'

And I agree with the folks speculating it might have been self-defense. Here is a picture of the guy who got shot being helped away. Note the two Black Bloc medics (with the red crosses).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 21, 2017 3:39 PM  

Sagramore wrote:@12 Why not an en masse reintroduction of deputizing

Expense. Ask New Brunswick, Canada what happened when they were forced to deputies all 911 operators and how much it cost them.

Deputies can be paid, or they can be volunteer.
Some years ago your sheriff got in a dustup with the county commission. They tried to threaten him with cutting off funds if he didn't fire someone they didn't like. He went into the commission meeting the next week and introduced his posse. 16 citizen volunteers he had sworn in as deputies that morning. He also informed them he had another couple hundred volunteers, but since they were not known to him personally, he had held off on them unless the matter was not resolved.
The posse is a tradition as old as law enforcement in the English speaking world, far older than the idea of policement. In my state you can even be drafted into a posse at the option of the county sheriff.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 21, 2017 3:39 PM  

our sheriff, not yours

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2017 3:41 PM  

@55:

Just one example of how badly the thing is understood, Rolf; fixing bayonets IS use of deadly force, which requires some very high authorizations. Yes, it has a place, unless you're using batons and shields, but it's a lot more limited than people think.

Anonymous BBGKB January 21, 2017 4:26 PM  

Now if that clip of Spencer showed him getting sucker punched and then the fruit ninja doing it getting a boot party after

Carlos Slims and 5 Jews News would rather show video of "Gentle Mike" beating up an Asian liquor store clerk, 10 min before he was shot.

have been self-defense. Here is a picture of the guy who got shot being helped away.

Ugly enough to have a black girlfriend.

Yes, it has a place, unless you're using batons and shields,

Its been years since I saw one of those stun gun incorporated shields that DieVerseCity ERs have.

Anonymous Rolf January 21, 2017 4:48 PM  

@59 - I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, and I realize that actively using them would constitute deadly force, but it didn't occur to me that just fixing them would constitute DF. I suppose that makes some sense. Something to consider, for sure. Which is why I'd love to see a proper manual, or bullet-point list - I've got a lot of half-baked ideas, and some of what are likely good ideas, and a load of "love to see it deployed by 'my' side, but...." ideas, and as you say the existing manuals are horrible. I'd like to know what really good riot control should look like - God knows I've seen / read about enough bad riot control in the last twenty years or so.

I'm sure a lot of it isn't sexy, things like going after funders, FB organizers, monitoring phones and social media to identify and lean on central figures, while deploying lawyers to make sure protocols are followed and you don't open yourself to lawsuits, etc. But things like deploying sniper teams with weapon-cameras to document they were only shooting people hurling Molotoves: good idea or horrible (assuming they succeed in just and only shooting the throwers)? I mean, it may well deter such things in the moment, but can the blowback be managed, etc? Or would it lead to dramatic escalation that is much worse? I can see appealing arguments on both sides. I assume that doing a lot of groundwork ahead of time if you can, to minimize the event by short-circuiting the radicals before they show up is best, precisely because it isn't flashy and likely to become a video spectacle... but maybe there is a time and place for some very high-profile uses of lethal force, like first-rate footage of a repeat Molotov-thrower getting dropped and immolated by their own weapon. I could write a story either way.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 21, 2017 5:44 PM  

Anonymous apparently found the guy who sucker punched Spencer - and its #NSFW -
Check the comments for more if u can stomach it.
He is a literal sh*t eating cuck
https://twitter.com/BakedNorwegian/status/822894113473392641

Blogger Anthony January 21, 2017 5:51 PM  

The guy in that picture looks like Lenin. If black-bloc medics were helping him, he's probably on the left side, and it's probably self-defense.

Also, all of you, especially those seriously considering violence, even just retaliatory violence: READ THIS. Then find a good lawyer. Then form an organization that can keep that lawyer paid. *Then* go out and smite thine enemies. The left knows how this shit works. Learn how, if you don't want to be an early casualty.


Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 21, 2017 6:14 PM  

@29 They're working themselves up to more serious violence.

Against the side that is far better armed and with much more experience with physical conflict. Either the restraint of the civilized has lulled these morons into a false sense of superiority or they are insane. Probably both.


They are using 4GW tactics and using them well, attacking an opponent with superior armaments and relying on the dissemination of propaganda to help them win at the moral level.

Thus it is vital that, when the right has to use deadly force to defend against the left's increasingly vicious attacks, we spread our story through alternative media channels. Also, the mainstream media is more susceptible to be shut down than alternative media.

Blogger HMS Defiant January 21, 2017 6:32 PM  

It wasn't until now that I noticed you listed Charles Oman on the right. He was, in my opinion, one of the best historians to write books. He and Julian Corbett had a way with words.

Anonymous Anonymous January 21, 2017 7:18 PM  

I always thought the Occupy movement was designed to create an organized core of dedicated violent radicals. It had no other apparent purpose.

Blogger Cloudswrest January 21, 2017 9:28 PM  

From this video of the shooting it looks like the guy in the yellow had was being set upon by the mob and trying to escape when he starting shooting.

https://vid.me/V3JL

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes January 22, 2017 2:19 AM  

The only reason these riots happened so much during the Obama administration is that it was supported by the leftist Federal government and the leftist city governments. Without that support, these guys would be in long jail terms. With Trump this is going to change, I hope.

During the Obama administration the Justice Department investigated cities which may have treated minorities unequally.

Okay. During the Trump administration, shouldn't the Justice Department investigate cities which aid and abet rioting? That's a matter of failing to protect the people living in the city and their property. The politicians and the police departments are violating equal rights to citizen safety. (Or somesuch.)

Blogger MycroftJones January 22, 2017 3:36 AM  

@63 holy smokes man, awesome read. I had no idea the 70's were so whacky. That article is a great epilogue to Rockwell's "White Power".

Blogger JohnnyRidden January 23, 2017 4:11 AM  

I feel like a variation of that oft-used phrase of post-GG /pol/ users is going to be uttered one day when he suddenly finds himself as UKIP press secretary.
"All I wanted to do was defend those who played vidya and sell a book about it!"
What an amazing wave these culture wars are. Surfs up, dudes!!!

Blogger JohnnyRidden January 23, 2017 4:12 AM  

(I should mention I'm not originally from the US so I don't know if he could do that job in the WH or not)

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