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Monday, January 16, 2017

Social media and the threat to the status quo

I don't think it is a coincidence that we're seeing a growing push against social media from the Left, as it has largely ceased to serve their social justice purposes and has now been transformed into a sword that cuts both ways:
We are learning that all of our thoughts aren’t welcome, especially by social media company investors. We are also learning that social media companies are a business. This means conversation is encouraged as long as it runs the gamut from mundane to vicious but stops at the overtly sexual or violent. Early in its life-cycle Pinterest made a big stink about actively banning porn while Instagram essentially allowed all sorts of exposition as long as it was monetizable and censored. Facebook still actively polices its photographs for even the hint of sexuality as an artist named Justyna Kiesielewicz recently discovered. She posted a staid nude and wanted to run it as an targeted advertisement. Facebook mistakenly ran the ad for a while, grabbing $50 before it banned the image. In short the latest incarnation of the expository impulse is truncated and sites like Facebook and Twitter welcome most hate groups but most draw the line at underboobs.

Further, social media is no longer protected. As careless CEOs quickly discover saying the wrong thing in a “private” chat or deleting an errant tweet does not mean someone won’t screencapture your rant. In fact social media has become an id and ego collector, a fly strip where all of our worst thoughts are captured permanently. We exhale in anger and chuff in frustration. We tell people to unfollow us if they don’t like what we’re saying and we turn neighborhood pages into political cesspools. Then, when we cross too many perceived boundaries, an army of trolls is ready to pounce and our private spaces become public very quickly.

In short social media is no longer a safe place. I don’t mean this in the politically correct sense but in the very mental and physical sense. Whereas the web was once a broadcast medium it is now a two-way or many-to-many medium. Our errant Twitter thoughts can make us targets and we often don’t know we’re being watched. Entire wars can break out online that have real-world consequences – see Pizzagate – and hoaxes flit through the memetic bloodstream like cancer, breaking down our defenses. A prominent writer and friend recently mused about what would happen if he posted some political rants. The first thing that leapt to his readers’ minds was the potential for SWATing and doxing and then an visit from the FBI. Then, as evidenced by the above CEO example, you get fired.

Social media has become a very real, very visceral, and very censorial force and it can now only worsen the human condition. It was once an experiment but that experiment is over.
That being said, this is a genie who won't be easily put back in the bottle, because it still serves too many powerful and vested interests. What we can expect is what we are starting to see; a one-sided crackdown that will ultimately fail because it necessarily sacrifices the moral level of war, and in its hypocrisy, gives up both the moral and intellectual high grounds.

The intrinsic problem that the Left faces is that in its constant attempts to destroy every Right-wing figure who surfaces, those who survive become impervious to their methods and become examples to others. Observers then learn what approaches work, such as the open antifragility pioneered by the likes of MILO and Stefan Molyneux, and which ones don't, such as the aggressive anonymity that is easily neutered by a simple doxxing.

The Left can't win on an equal playing field, so they have fought dirty for nearly a century. That was effective so long as the Right was the establishment and sensitive to accusations of fairness and violating its own standards. But now the Alt-Right is rising, and has demonstrated that it is capable of winning on an equal playing field or tilting the field, as needed. This is why their attempts to discredit, disqualify, and destroy will be more furious than ever, and why antifragility and reliable allies rather than anonymity are necessary for every Alt-Right and Alt-Lite figure, however minor.

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70 Comments:

Anonymous JAMES January 16, 2017 5:53 AM  

This wouldn't happen to be a veiled commentary on a certain loudmouth who was embarrassingly doxed recently would it?

Although I enjoyed his podcasts I must confess to a giggle over that one.

Blogger Lovekraft January 16, 2017 6:10 AM  

The left has removed our focus so far away from establishing and maintaining solid principles for a working society. Their priorities create confusion, division and resentment. How many protest marches built a factory, negotiated fair trade deal, ended overregulation?

The alt-right would be well served to not engage them on their terms but rather to demonstrate both how fundamental Christian Protestant values are better, and how marxist ideology creates things like NoBordersBarack.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 16, 2017 6:12 AM  

The pathetic retreat this actually signals is apparent in the last paragraph, where they make clear that what they really want is everybody just to be quiet, you're shaking their bubble! It could burst at any moment!

What I really want is an explanation of what the fuck this sentence means in the context of the article: "It’s happening now with the rise of beards and artisinal pickles."

Blogger Shimshon January 16, 2017 6:19 AM  

"Further, social media is no longer protected. As careless CEOs quickly discover saying the wrong thing in a “private” chat or deleting an errant tweet does not mean someone won’t screencapture your rant."

Translation: We should not be held accountable for our gamma outbursts.

In any case, sounds like a case barn, door, and horses having problems. Old media wants to restrain burgeoning new media (social media is just an epithet they use).

Assuming Trump does significantly expand the press access, it will be interesting to see how welcoming the new policy will be. I imagine some significant alt-light voices are already bigger than the likes of CNN, maybe even much bigger. They should get equal consideration. Savor the thought of the Milo News Network White House correspondent. Even someone like Cernovich is on the cusp, at roughly 100K. Imagine a White House correspondent for the alt-tech CNN (Cernovich News Network).

Blogger Wolfman at Large January 16, 2017 6:19 AM  

The Trump campaign and all that surrounded it reminds me of a stage of the Battle of the Atlantic where the Allied high command had to chose between the poorly equipped ships of the Royal Canadian Navy with their barely trained crews or no ships at all. As times were desperate and much was at stake the choice was clear as the new ships were thrown into the breach, often without even time to correct builder's defects.

It worked and was enough to save the day. However as soon as the most desperate days were over those rag tag ships had to go back into the shipyards to get properly equipped and the officers and men had to begin training, reorganizing and turning themselves into a proper fighting force that would be needed for the days ahead.

#AltRetard served its purpose but it's time for the amateurs to get their shit together. (And yes I'm including myself in that category.)

Blogger AdognamedOp January 16, 2017 6:41 AM  

Fuk em. Let them have that mound. It'll bring more clear thinking folk into our fold and we'll just take it back. One way or another.

Blogger JACIII January 16, 2017 6:51 AM  

This desire for impermanence in media is hilarious. If you can see it, it can be saved. If you can write it, it will be saved. If you say something stupid or actionable, it will outrun that lie that is half way around the world already.

The internet is a consumer's paradise, but can quickly become a casual content creator's nightmare.

Iphones should have a warning sticker: "Everything you do on this device is recorded."

Blogger VD January 16, 2017 7:02 AM  

This wouldn't happen to be a veiled commentary on a certain loudmouth who was embarrassingly doxed recently would it?

There is nothing veiled about it. The situation changes. 10 years ago, it was possible to remain anonymous. These days, it is almost impossible to do so, not only due to social media, but the way in which governments and corporations are gathering data.

These days, it's very, very easy to slip up and drop a clue, but even if you perfectly manage your own behavior, a personal friend might put a picture on Facebook, a trusted colleague might get angry and betray you, or hackers might obtain access to your Apple or Yahoo account.

What was reasonable a few years ago is no longer viable.

Anonymous Silly but True January 16, 2017 7:03 AM  

The left was the first to weaponize employment and employment law, people's livlihoods, and the internet.

Yes, use all these weapons against them. But I'd rather see evolutionary change in these tools under a Trump administration.

Blogger Phillip George January 16, 2017 7:10 AM  

Bees communicate by putting on a dance if not song and the best dancer gets the greatest following. Or something like that.

Vox, I mused that your greatest contrbution to Western Civilization is one sentence

White Nationalism does not equal White Supremecist.

It's just one sentence but it took enormous intellectual fortitude to arrive at/ conclude with and publish.

For me the biggest economic threat is global warming religion.
The greatest cultural threat is multiculturalism.
The greatest military threat is deep state.
The greatest actual enemy remains anti Christ himself.

The definite article Sentence was a big story

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 16, 2017 7:18 AM  

Lovekraft wrote:The left has removed our focus so far away from establishing and maintaining solid principles for a working society. Their priorities create confusion, division and resentment. How many protest marches built a factory, negotiated fair trade deal, ended overregulation?

The alt-right would be well served to not engage them on their terms but rather to demonstrate both how fundamental Christian Protestant values are better, and how marxist ideology creates things like NoBordersBarack.


Are you still afraid to talk politics in mixed company? Are you worried that if you say the wrong thing in front of your liberal cousin/aunt/niece/nephew etc. that a holiday will be ruined? Have you noticed that the left is afraid of the same things or do they still vomit their opinions freely? Once the left is just as afraid to talk politics in mixed company as the right is, then it will be time to put away the knives and demonstrate proper values. Until then, we loose if we let up, because they control the public conversations.

Anonymous Greg January 16, 2017 7:19 AM  

" What we can expect is what we are starting to see; a one-sided crackdown that will ultimately fail because it necessarily sacrifices the moral level of war, and in its hypocrisy, gives up both the moral and intellectual high grounds."

Vox, I know, and you know that I know, that you don't actually believe this, and that violating this so called principle is a bedrock of your own tactics.

But I did find your brazen condemning of something so fundamental to your own practice amusing to read, so thanks for that.

Now you can delete this comment.....3.....2.......1

Blogger Horn of the Mark January 16, 2017 7:20 AM  

Warning: Over-prescribing the antibiotics of leftist hostility may lead to the development of Alt-Right superbugs resistant to all known treatments.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 16, 2017 7:21 AM  

@1 James
I must have missed it- who are you referring to?

Blogger VD January 16, 2017 7:22 AM  

Vox, I know, and you know that I know, that you don't actually believe this, and that violating this so called principle is a bedrock of your own tactics.

You're wrong. You clearly didn't understand what I wrote at all.

Now you can delete this comment.....3.....2.......1

And you're wrong again.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 16, 2017 7:28 AM  

@Adognamedop

It's not a mound any more. Trump nuked it last week and all they have now is a smoking crater.

Blogger Kenny January 16, 2017 7:30 AM  

You casually mention "a simple doxxing" and then the very next sentence you say that the Left is the one who was "fought dirty"

Anonymous Vin January 16, 2017 7:32 AM  

I've always been baffled by the Milo critics who fail to notice that a flamboyantly gay 'Jew' (practicing Catholic) who dates black men exclusively is completely impervious to their attacks. The perfect shield.

Vids from previous years show him toning all of that down, mostly making no mention of any of it.

I can do without the gay/black lover camp but it's easy enough to ignore when you see how effective he is vs PC, feminism & Islam and calls out anti-Whites.

Stefan = well sourced 'hate facts' delivered with a smile. Equally effective.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 16, 2017 7:32 AM  

There's some inside baseball that I'm not getting here - but what's new. :-)

Blogger #6277 Hammer January 16, 2017 7:42 AM  

Greg wrote: "Now you can delete this comment.....3.....2.......1"

No, he'll just leave it here for everyone to observe your stupidity....for ever

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 16, 2017 7:50 AM  

VD wrote:Now you can delete this comment.....3.....2.......1

And you're wrong again.


B...b...but Vox, you didn't condemn every single leftist tactic, that makes you a leftist and you are therefore obliged to suppress every dissenting comment just like they do...

Blogger Worlds Edge January 16, 2017 7:52 AM  

Meh, this article is a slightly more upscale version of some obese dangerhair screeching on Twitter about how they're leaving the platform. Which they never do. Also, notice that the author of the piece was unwilling to say exactly what social media they were giving up, or even planning on using less often.

Blogger Sillon Bono January 16, 2017 8:00 AM  

@VD

I have to admit that you were right all along.

This war cannot be won with shortcuts.

Blogger BassmanCO January 16, 2017 8:04 AM  

@Kenny,

And who started that doxxing? Vox mentions it casually because the left brought it into the level of war. Don't start shit/use a tactic and not expect to have it used against you.

Ask the Germans why they stopped using mustard gas. It wasn't for humanitarian reasons. It was because the British and French used their own and the Germans realized they no longer had an advantage.

Anonymous A Texan January 16, 2017 8:09 AM  

Yep, those leftist can't handle any real truth ever. I love Al Gore's invention of the internet so you can find other like minded people or research what you always suspected was true.

Here is a link to a fun Youtube video. The left needs to invade Mexico and send this Mexican citizen to a concentration camp.

https://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2017/01/11/africans-in-mexico-refuse-to-work/#comment-45258

Blogger Rabbi B January 16, 2017 8:23 AM  

Our errant Twitter thoughts can make us targets and we often don’t know we’re being watched.

Yes, just imagine what a different world this might be if people were more acutely aware of the watching eye, the hearing ear, and the writing hand that is above, recording everything we say and do in a Book before whose Author we will all give an account some day. Social media is the least of our worries.

But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” (Cf. Matthew 12)

Anonymous old man in a villa January 16, 2017 8:35 AM  

"In short social media is no longer a safe place."

The world is not a safe place, that is what makes life so exciting, so worthwhile.

This is an entire generation of infants in plus sized bodies desperately craving what has never been and will never be and demanding it all at the expense of everyone else.

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 16, 2017 8:39 AM  

I heard a clip the other day of, I think it's "Seth Myers"or someone, on his late nite show and he was saying something like, "Ok, we have to retire the term 'fake news' because now it's being used [in a way we don't like, as in against us]"

It had the ring of the class Alpha/Team Captain getting mercilessly taunted about his pink shirt by the band nerds who wear them to mock him and talk about it, and then he has to stand up at lunch and declare that "pink shirts ok...they are no longer considered cool...ok, so, no one wear pink shirts...that will be all".

dorks. they lost the narrative and the damn internet/social meme horse ran off out of the barn.

Anonymous Sigfader January 16, 2017 8:44 AM  

Hey VD,

What do you think about this "tweetstorm"?
When I read it I immediately thought of you and 4GW. It fits this post as well so it's not really off topic.

https://storify.com/sphenoid/days-of-rage-pt-5-finale-what-does-it-portend

I recommend that parts 1-4 are read as well to get the context. The book that prompted these tweets is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Underground-Forgotten-Revolutionary/dp/1594204292/

We could learn a lot about our enemy by studying what they did during the 70's in both Europe and the US.

Anonymous Well fudge January 16, 2017 8:44 AM  

Vox,

I guess you couldn't have spelled it out any more clearly, but does this mean I should give up trolling anonymously?

I don't have any traditional social media accounts, except the automatic Google Plus page, which I have never used.

I do use Disqus extensively, but I (think) I have good opsec. I have no "trusted colleagues" and I occasionally google myself (real name and online name(s))...

However I have no grasp on the risks of being hacked.

Blogger VD January 16, 2017 9:02 AM  

I guess you couldn't have spelled it out any more clearly, but does this mean I should give up trolling anonymously?

If you aren't willing to pay the price of being outed, yes. The only thing presently protecting you is your irrelevance. If you become effective, they will focus on finding out who you are.

If you genuinely have no reason to care about being outed, then you're fine.

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot January 16, 2017 9:03 AM  

I once was married to a Jew
Assuming that nobody knew
I created a shoah
And the hot air did floah
But the truth left me nothing to do.

Anonymous BBGKB January 16, 2017 9:15 AM  

justice purposes and has now been transformed into a sword that cuts both ways:

Cuckburg has been censoring fakebook just as well as twitter, if shitlibs are shocked at what gets thru they would really hate reality.

but stops at the overtly sexual or violent. Like news of black/brown/immigrant crime.

Entire wars can break out online that have real-world consequences – see Pizzagate

They cry for the 48th most powerful Feman in DC, but relished memories pizza for not catering a wedding.

veiled commentary on a certain loudmouth who was embarrassingly doxed recently would it?

You are pretending that someone showing his face on videos is hiding.

flamboyantly gay 'Jew' (practicing Catholic) who dates black men exclusively is completely impervious to their attacks. The perfect shield.

I have considered lying and saying I dated blacks before but can't bring myself to do it, except from the few times I have gotten a wrong number asking for an ethnic name.

This is an entire generation of infants in plus sized bodies

At least the spinster bubble might cause some of the women to rethink feminism.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 16, 2017 9:17 AM  

@Slllon bono

Of course we can't use shortcuts. Only full-fledged symbolic links are up to to the task.

Anonymous BBGKB January 16, 2017 9:54 AM  

Related to doxing http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/15/breaking-cali-doj-releases-personal-information-firearms-trainers-unknown-party/

Blogger Cail Corishev January 16, 2017 10:21 AM  

"Whereas the web was once a broadcast medium it is now a two-way or many-to-many medium."

The web was never really a broadcast medium, so their first mistake was thinking they could control it that way. Corporations, especially old media, tried to turn it into one, but that's not what it's suited for. The difference is inherent in the protocol: you don't just "turn on" a web site the way you turn on the TV, and absorb whatever it chooses to send you. Your web browser requests a specific resource by name -- and then if you click on something, it requests that one, and so on. Even TV itself, as it's moved online, has gone away from the broadcast model to a watch-what-and-when-you-want model.

They're pining for something that was an aberration, and they don't even know it, because they grew up with the aberration and think it's the norm.

Blogger SteelPalm January 16, 2017 10:41 AM  

@29

A good read, although I hope most readers of this blog knew most of those points already.

Anonymous Sigfader January 16, 2017 10:46 AM  

@37

Agreed, but it never hurts to read it from a different perspective.

Anonymous WK January 16, 2017 11:01 AM  

"and why antifragility and reliable allies rather than anonymity are necessary for every Alt-Right and Alt-Lite figure, however minor."

That's right baby. www.redtraitor.com

Blogger SteelPalm January 16, 2017 11:25 AM  

@38

Oh, completely agree.

Too many people, even on here, underestimate the leftist enemy, and how many structural advantages they have over us.

The sets of Tweets by David Hines was a great sanity check, among other things.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 16, 2017 12:17 PM  

If you aren't willing to pay the price of being outed, yes. The only thing presently protecting you is your irrelevance. If you become effective, they will focus on finding out who you are.

Fair enough. First priority would be to get an income flow that doesn't depend upon the good will of SJWs.

Of course, for many if not most of us, that's the hard part...

Anonymous Rocklea January 16, 2017 12:33 PM  

"What we can expect is what we are starting to see; a one-sided crackdown that will ultimately fail because it necessarily sacrifices the moral level of war, and in its hypocrisy, gives up both the moral and intellectual high grounds."

Let's hope it remains intellectual, but the termites do love chewing wood and keep inviting new and diverse house guests for dinner.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 16, 2017 12:39 PM  

For years the Great Firewall of China has been a thing. Now China takes this one step further, requiring internet App stores to register with the government. It is always worth watching what the central Chinese government is up to in terms of net control.

Blogger Kenny January 16, 2017 12:59 PM  

Citations needed on doxxing invented by the left

And it never takes the "alt-right" long to bring up Germany, does it

Blogger Austin Ballast January 16, 2017 1:02 PM  

VD,

You had noted to do our interactions via an alias in the past. Is that still valuable? It would at least keep us from easy Google matching.

Though is it worth doing that building a personal brand. That is where I see things being trickier. How do you build a longer term anti fragile with an alias and then tie that to you personally when you reach a large enough "size"?

Is it better to just blog in your own name (for example) and live with the risk, quickly building your personal brand to an antifragile state?

Blogger seeingsights January 16, 2017 1:03 PM  

It sounds like an Alinsky rule: use the weapons that your opponents created against them. So sue left liberal institution so. Reveal on the Internet the identity of left wing criminal wrong doers. Boycott the products of SJW converged organizations.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope January 16, 2017 1:03 PM  

still chuckling at their notion of the web as a broadcast medium.
Showing, once again, that lefties have zero concept of history. I'd suggest they google Arpanet but then they would find out that Al Gore didn't invent the internet.

I prefer the hard core lefties stew in their ignorance, it makes them much less effective enemies.

For those of you who still have the illusion that your leftie colleagues at work and your liberal friends will stand by you, I hope you never find out differently but am confident that you will.

Unless you are spineless and never willing to speak up and keep your head down at all times and continue to lick the boots of your masters. Then I guess you'll be safe.

Blogger Kenny January 16, 2017 1:03 PM  

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Blogger J Van Stry January 16, 2017 1:06 PM  

I gave up being anonymous on the internet many years ago. And I had an anonymous handle that could not be tracked (I've been here since the darpa days, I'm dug in deep). Why did I give it up?

Because I just don't care. I'm not afraid of what any of these people may do. Whatever it is, I can guarantee you that I've already been through worse.

And it's very liberating once you stop caring. Yes, I'm getting older and I don't engage in the epic flame wars and other such activities of my youth. But you have to understand, these people are cowards. They will not face you, the light of day hurts them far more than it hurts you. When your response to a doxing attempt is to give them your home address, it scares the hell out of them.

'unfragility' really is the best way to go in your life. When you look a bully in the eye and laugh, when you tell them you just don't care, you rob them of all power in their life.
They hate that.

Blogger J Van Stry January 16, 2017 1:08 PM  

@48 - they're not confusing, they're trying to run a disinformation campaign. They're lying, and they know it.

Blogger Kenny January 16, 2017 1:10 PM  

@32 Man why are they always confusing the alt-right with neo nazis???!?!

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl January 16, 2017 1:10 PM  

One of the big problems with the Left's Antifragility is that it depends on coerced payments (taxes and subsidies). The fastest way to get them violent, a la David Hines's astute analysis, is to shut off the free money.

They are a house of cards that depends on non-Leftist funding. Take that funding away, and the house of cards collapses. It will be a violent collapse, however. Also note that Hines's analysis also depends on trust of media and institutions, which is at about 5% these days. I'm more optimistic than he is, overall, that we'd win in an all-out knuckle fight, but it would be awful.

OpenID troogs January 16, 2017 2:05 PM  

@VD, Sigfader's comment @29 is intriguing.

I second Sigfader's request for you to comment on Hines' tweetsorm,, since Hines' tweetstorm seems to all over the blogosphere at the moment.

That's what I'm really scared of. Killing like that, on repeat. It's my nightmare scenario. I know it's unlikely. But.

The shadowy group that unleashed carnage on Pablo Escobar's Institutions had a name.

They were known as Los Pepes.

https://storify.com/sphenoid/days-of-rage-pt-5-finale-what-does-it-portend

@VD, You seem to see the left's capability for violence through a contemptuous lens. But do you disagree with Hines' 1)-4) four phase take on how things would pan out, if it comes to Pablos and Pepes?

Blogger SteelPalm January 16, 2017 2:10 PM  

@52

I actually didn't view Hines' analysis as particularly pessimistic.

We all know the huge structural advantages the Left has over us. Being honest and realistic with oneself is the first step towards victory.

Nevertheless, the Right HAS won this same uneven battle on many occasions, and will win it again. That's not even getting into the new technology, which is a deathblow to the Left's traditional stranglehold on the Media, or that this new permutation of the Right will be particularly effective in combating Leftist tactics.

Victory is very possible. But it will indeed be "awful", at the very least.

Blogger J Van Stry January 16, 2017 3:03 PM  

@52 I have no idea who Hines is, or what his experience is. Browsing through that bunch of tweets, I think he is comparing apples to oranges, that his understanding of the underlying times and cultures involved now versus those in the past are just incorrect.

The Clintons spent eight years going after and dismantling 'right wing' organizations that were capable of violence, and which had been around for some time, and which were very successful. Sure, they hadn't done any violence in a very long time, but that was because there was no longer a need.

Just because those organizations are no longer visible, doesn't mean they won't quickly reappear, should the need arise.
Just because you can't see them, it doesn't mean that they aren't there. Many of them have been hiding in plain sight after all.

Blogger VD January 16, 2017 3:15 PM  

And it never takes the "alt-right" long to bring up Germany, does it

Citation needed.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 16, 2017 3:17 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:We all know the huge structural advantages the Left has over us. Being honest and realistic with oneself is the first step towards victory.

Nevertheless, the Right HAS won this same uneven battle on many occasions, and will win it again.


The difference is that the Left is entirely driven by emotion, and their White and (((White))) foot soldiers are, almost universally, mentally ill. Once actual physical danger comes into the equation, their reactions are entirely predictable. They will break down, shriek, cry and demand that Mommy (never Daddy) come make the bad people stop resisting. No one will care anymore.

Their Black foot soldiers are far more reality-based, and far more dangerous, but the natural and obvious race aspect will, as noted above, turn it into a race war fairly quickly. The major mode of combat will be inner-city riots, accompanied by assassination of rival leaders on the Black side. That bodes extremely ill for the Left.

Most people don't really care and will just want the violence to stop. They will try to fob off the Blacks with reparations, but once the cost is known, that idea will die a horrible death. There will be a lot of pressure on the "Talented Tenth", the middle and upper-middle class Blacks that have made a success on their own merits, outside the hothouse of government and academia, to distance themselves from the rioters and mobs. Mostly they won't, which will lead to an emotional distancing from ordinary White people.

There are a lot of Commies that have been lusting after an actual civil war for decades. They are a small cadre, but they are in deadly earnest. If the Left drives it hard enough to force people to take sides, these people will die swiftly and mercilessly.

Blogger Dave January 16, 2017 3:22 PM  

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Blogger JWM in SD January 16, 2017 4:06 PM  

Yeah, who is it? Rogan?

Anonymous Sigfader January 16, 2017 6:00 PM  

@57

I think you are significantly underestimating the hard core of the left. It is very dangerous to wave them away with "they will break down in tears." Even if they would break down, they are still in charge of institutions, control funds and such things. We MUST consider them.

Just because we don't respect their ability to reason doesn't mean we should discount them as enemies.

Anonymous Painter January 16, 2017 6:24 PM  

"But now the Alt-Right is rising,.."

I keep looking for this rising up of the Alt Right. I don't see them anywhere in politics. And the only one who tried to run, David Duke, got his ass kicked.

How long does the claim get to hang around without confirmation before we call it wishful thinking?

Blogger Kenny January 16, 2017 6:49 PM  

@56 see @24 that I was responding to but didn't know how the system worked yet

Anonymous BBGKB January 16, 2017 8:52 PM  

And it never takes the "alt-right" long to bring up Germany, does it

Oy vey they have good strudel and wurst there.

Blogger Thucydides January 16, 2017 10:25 PM  

Still need to build and extend alternatives, especially replacements for FaceBook, YouTube and other social media. Indeed, I would go so far to say the Ctrl-Left may even attempt to seize the network infrastructure, so *we* should be prepared to establish mesh networks and alternative infrastructures to be able to carry on if needed.

Attacking them in other ways can use old forms of media, including using the buying power of the people to take over small community radio stations, community cable networks, community newspapers and other small scale enterprises. IF the customer base sees that these venues are producing and broadcasting items of interest (i.e. real local news), then they take away market share from the Fake News media.

In heavily "Blue" areas, where this might not be a viable option, Samizdat can be used, for example small posters and bumper sticker sized items pasted to high traffic areas to distribute memes, simple rhetorical messages and links to real news items. This will be incredibly difficult for the Ctrl-Left to police, stop or counter.

This is essentially information war with the Alt-Right currently having the sort of position and resources that, say, Latvia has against the PSYOPS and Info War capabilities of Russia. The scale and scope of the resource mismatch are incredible (media conglomerates are billion dollar industries), but bypassing them and hitting weak spots can be done.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl January 16, 2017 10:42 PM  

@63 Thucydides

I was just thinking of the street level stuff too - fliers, stickers, notices, booklets, etc. are pretty difficult to control overall. Dressed up as zines or like old punk rock fliers sends a subconscious message as well. Half of punk/alternative allure is fashion and in the current zeitgeist, who are the real rebels?

A prong to think about, anyway.

@57 Snidely

I was also thinking of this in regards to the Left's violence. Vox has brought this up consistently with the issue of Identitarianism - when it comes to actual violence, it will be based on "white" vs. "Hispanic" or "black" lines (I use scare quotes because the terms can be fungible to the Left for their purposes).

If violence does occur (and I would bet it about 85% likely this summer), it will be along racial lines - the Left will gather up their pet brown peoples for major PR purposes. Any white people (or whitey lovers) who fight back would be blasted by the media. Of course, when MSM trust rates are at about 5%, it doesn't really matter, I say.

But yes, I think the violence of the left will become pretty real by the summer.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl January 16, 2017 10:57 PM  

As per the Left, its institutional advantage, and social media though - it is 4GW. The strength of the AltRight is its decentralized nature. It doesn't rely on subsidized wealth as do SJW institutions.

It's a hydra - a formidable beast for sure, but it's weaknesses are still there.

As per the final says of institutions (colleges, media, etc.) - they all end up in the hands of Congress and the Supreme Court, and in the US, we know where that's heading.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 16, 2017 11:44 PM  

44. Kenny January 16, 2017 12:59 PM
Citations needed on doxxing invented by the left



citations needed that the Left *didn't* invent doxxing, bitch.


51. Kenny January 16, 2017 1:10 PM
Man why are they always confusing the alt-right with neo nazis???!?!



man, why are feeble minded retards always confusing racism with nazis? the Jews have been getting their dumb asses pogrommed out of countries for over a thousand years before Nazis even existed ACCORDING TO THE TALMUD.


but, let's take the assertion that "Racism == Literally Hitler" as a given. guess what?

we've got four Nigger Nazis in Chicago torturing a White retard. don't even get started on the Nigger Nazis in the Nation of Islam or Nigger Jew Street Nazis who tell normal Jews that they .. aren't Jewish. it's fucking hilarious to watch a Nigger Jew Nazi street preacher tell a regular light skinned Jew that the Holocaust never existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afpJorKCRzM

we've got tenured Kike Nazis teaching at Harvard asking for a White Genocide for Christmas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90kmUbEv7c

we've got Wetback Nazis forming Treasonous organizations within the United States ( La Raza, Spanish for "The Race" ) who's goal is the secession of the Southwest and the recreation of an Aztec ethnostate.

but, you know only Honkies be racist, yo.

being a Nazi, that's like White Privilege.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 16, 2017 11:52 PM  

the Black Israelites break it, who all the twelve tribes of the Jews became in the modern world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aowh6t7B14

Ashkenazi, Sephardim? makes no never mind. they're all imposters.

*snicker*

Blogger ViciousCreep January 17, 2017 2:26 AM  

SteelPalm wrote:That's not even getting into the new technology, which is a deathblow to the Left's traditional stranglehold on the Media,

Don't be too sure about that. The control of large scale technological infrastructure still poses a serious threat which will be even more difficult to counter than the Legacy "news' Media.

Breitbart may be trouncing CNN, but I still see google widgets on almost every website. The legacy media tipped it's hand in blatantly leveraging it's position. The far more sophisticated telecommunications organizations are formidably quiet. Notice that we essentially infer the scale of their monitoring based on the presence of monitoring technology. They give very few specifics about their proprietary capacity to use it, let alone their intentions.

Finding out will be a matter of careful investigation. More imaginative people could find any number of uses. Let me take one obvious instance: decrementing a search result by a page or two. Very hard to prove without the underlying data and algorithms, which are not accessible to the public.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 17, 2017 11:23 PM  

@63 Thucydides

In heavily "Blue" areas, where this might not be a viable option, Samizdat can be used, for example small posters and bumper sticker sized items pasted to high traffic areas to distribute memes, simple rhetorical messages and links to real news items. This will be incredibly difficult for the Ctrl-Left to police, stop or counter.
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This reminds me of something related to Pizza Gate. Someone posted that they are writing #PizzaGate on their various paper dollars. That's an idea, you can put a meme or w/e on the money and people might notice it.

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