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Tuesday, January 17, 2017

The Alt-Right comes to Washington

Politico appears to be more confused than anything about what the Alt-Right is, what it represents, who is in it, or even what it is called:
Known until recently as the “alt-right,” it is a dispersed movement that encompasses a range of right-wing figures who are mostly young, mostly addicted to provocation and mostly have made their names on the internet. On the less extreme end, they include economic nationalists and “Western chauvinists” like Yiannopoulos, who wants to purge Islam from the United States and Europe; the movement also encompasses overt white nationalists, committed fascists and proponents of a host of other ideologies that were thought to have died out in American politics not long after World War II. Over the course of Trump’s campaign, these ideas came back to life in chat rooms, on Twitter and on the fringes of the internet—driven by supporters united by their loathing of progressives and their feeling of alienation from the free market Republican Party as it defined itself before Trump’s takeover.

This “new right” is now enjoying something of a moment. It’s not clear whether the movement helped fuel Trump’s rise or just rode its coattails. But energized by his success, this loose confederacy of meme-generating internet trolls, provocateurs and self-appointed custodians of Trumpism has begun making plans to move into Washington’s corridors of power, or at least shoulder their way into the general vicinity. When they look at Washington—a besuited city that moves to the rhythm of lobbying and legislative calendars and carefully worded statements—they see an opportunity for total disruption, the kind of overthrow the movement already takes credit for visiting on American politics....

For a bunch of media-driven provocateurs, members of the new nationalist right can be highly particular about their interactions with the mainstream press. Longtime bloggers Vox Day and Steve Sailer agreed to answer questions for this story only in writing. Charles Johnson agreed to an interview on the condition that he would also record it, a tactic more commonly employed by prominent politicians. He also declined to be photographed, explaining that only one photographer is allowed to take his picture for publication....

Yiannopoulos said he still talks to Bannon, but he declined to say about what. He disavowed any interest in Washington past the inaugural festivities. “Everybody in politics is a cunt,” he said. “They’re boring, untalented, unattractive people.” The real fight, he thinks, is the culture war he’s waging on college campuses. Yiannopoulos said he will leave Washington after Trump’s inauguration weekend with no desire to return.

“I’m like Cincinnatus,” he said, comparing himself to the 5th century B.C. patrician who was appointed dictator of Rome to repel an invasion and promptly returned to civilian life after the crisis passed. “I want to go do this shit and go back to my fucking farm.”
Since the guy completely wasted my time, didn't bother to quote me once - although, admittedly, doing so would have risked puncturing his prefabricated narrative about the Alt-Right going to Washington - and neglected to mention the name of Mike's "Finnish publishing house", in this case I'll provide the full set of questions and answers. I don't care if they want to ignore me, that's fine. But if you repeatedly contact me, ask me questions, and then ignore my answers, well, don't be surprised when I ignore your future requests.

This reminds me of the sports media, and the way that they constantly complain that the athletes either don't talk to them or refuse to give them anything but canned answers. Who do they think taught them to do that? The media clearly doesn't like the fact that we won't talk to them on the phone, and it won't be long before they are complaining that we don't bother responding to their emails anymore. Well, you see, Mr. Journalist Reporter, since you're obviously not going to utilize any of the answers we're giving you, there simply isn't any reason to talk to you in the first place.

This is why Stefan Molyneux doesn't bother with them at all. I may need to further alter my media policy in imitation of his. Or perhaps I'll simply tell everyone who contacts me to go talk to Milo. All they really want is quotes from him anyhow, so we might as well cut right to the chase.


Hi Vox,

Can I interview you for Politico Magazine about your plans for the next four years?

I didn't respond to that. I shouldn't have bothered responding to the next one, obviously.


 Hi Vox,

Bumping this to the top of your inbox. Can we arrange an interview?

Certainly. However, please note that I only do written interviews. We can do as many rounds of follow-up as you require.


Do you expect your writing will gain more traction in Washington during the Trump administration than it has in recent years?

I would tend to think so. Considering that I publicly predicted both the 2008 financial crisis and the Trump presidency long before they happened, it would seem to make sense to pay attention to those commentators utilizing effective predictive models rather than those that have proven repeatedly false. Regardless of what people think about it, it is increasingly obvious that the Alt-Right is the only philosophical perspective that is in line with both current science and the present historical trends.


Have you been to DC since Election Day? Are you planning to spend more time in DC during the Trump administration ? (I’m not sure where you’re based)

No, I haven't been there in years. And I have no intention of going there in the future.


Do you or other intellectuals you’re in touch with have plans for building a lasting political movement?

I have absolutely no interest in building a political movement, ephemeral or lasting. I am solely interested in writing books, designing games, and understanding what is true to the greatest extent of my ability to recognize it. While some of the people with whom I am in touch are actively involved in politics, and I support their efforts, that's just not something in which I'm interested. My parents were involved in politics and that exposure was sufficient to dissuade me from it.


What was your parents' political involvement and how did it dissuade you from pursuing politics?

They were heavily involved in Minnesota politics and were both delegates at the 1988 RNC. My father also ran Pat Robertson's presidential campaign in Minnesota and was close with Ralph Reed and the Christian Coalition. What I saw in the inner circles of the Republican Party was that with a few principled exceptions, most of the establishment figures cared about nothing but influence and money. They viewed ideology as something to keep the rubes occupied.

That's why Donald Trump smoked the GOP establishment so badly. He listened to the people and embraced their causes. The professional Republicans had been tuning them out for at least 28 years.


Plans to set up think tanks or run candidates for office or set up other political infrastructure?

None at all.


Do you have thoughts or plans on how to gain wider acceptance for ideas that are currently treated as taboo?

Reality has a way of imposing itself on societal taboos. Identity politics are upon the USA whether we like them or not. Acceptance for the Alt-Right perspective will occur due to the continued failures of liberalism and conservatism alike, as it is already obvious to anyone who is paying attention that the idea of a shiny happy multicultural, multireligious America is a complete and utter failure. How much more failure has to happen before people reluctantly abandon their false philosophical models cannot be known, but we know that sooner or later, they will.

In other words, we don't have to do anything but continue to point out the obvious to everyone, and eventually, inevitably, the sane and stable elements of the America public will come to accept it.


Who else should I talk to for this article?

Mike Cernovich, Peter Turchin, Milo Yiannopoulos, the Men of the West blog.


Do you have contact info for Molyneux?

Yes, but he won't talk to you. He never talks to the media in any form.

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153 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 17, 2017 2:09 PM  

A beautiful response, and it is now entirely apparent why they wouldn't touch the thing with a ten foot pole.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 2:10 PM  

Dude... the answers you gave him probably scared the living crap out of him.

But the whole "alt-right comes to washington" idea is false on its face. Think tanks?

I mean is this supposed to be 1978 or something?

The world is decentralized. The Alt-Right is decentralized.

To quote the old facebook lady... That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works!

Anonymous Rather, Not January 17, 2017 2:14 PM  

I would propose that Vox continues to talk to the media, with one modification. Continue to do it in written form, but for each question they ask you, they have to answer one of yours.

Blogger JWM in SD January 17, 2017 2:17 PM  

How did they not know where you're based out of? That is not hard to find out. No wonder they still don't get it. That's a real sign of insular thought.

Blogger JWM in SD January 17, 2017 2:19 PM  

That would be interesting and revealing but I doubt they would agree to it.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 2:19 PM  

I would propose that Vox continues to talk to the media, with one modification. Continue to do it in written form, but for each question they ask you, they have to answer one of yours.

That makes no sense. I don't even know who these people are, much less have any questions for them. The thing is, I know how the game is played and I don't expect them to quote everything I say. But you're supposed to quote something, otherwise, what the fuck is the interviewee even talking to you for?

Blogger dc.sunsets January 17, 2017 2:19 PM  

You've written it often; they already know what their column will contain before they contact you.

If you don't give them the words they want, they'll put them in your mouth (if they believe no other copies exist) or else they'll get someone else (if necessary, a completely fictional character) to do so.

"Anonymous Sources" is always a reliable contributor.

Anonymous Damn Crackers January 17, 2017 2:21 PM  

Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 17, 2017 2:21 PM  

Vox is just a check box on a list of people to provoke evil badthink comments from they can shriek at and use to generate click bait. Actual intelligent engagement and learning about him or any of the alt-right is not on their radar.

They don't agree, they don't understand. Well done Vox.

Anonymous Daniel H January 17, 2017 2:22 PM  

>>Plans to set up think tanks .....

Could have said, yeah, I already have one: voxday.blogspot.com

Blogger dc.sunsets January 17, 2017 2:22 PM  

You can't explain "being wet" to a fish. It's nearly impossible for most people to accept deep down that "news programs," articles and such are pseudo-reality, not actual reality.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 17, 2017 2:24 PM  

Wow, that was very interesting. A clear example of the article was already written, I will just do my due diligence in contacting the folks so I can say I did research.

The main stream media is a bunch of clowns.

I also find it odd that groups that have gotten ahead by having an in-group identity preference, hate the idea of other groups doing the same, in particular the white majority that formed this very nice place to live in the first place.

Blogger Ingot9455 January 17, 2017 2:24 PM  

You write too clearly and tell too much truth. No way can they publish you.

And you'd think that if you were going to interview someone, you'd get their general, unhidden location.

Blogger Student in Blue January 17, 2017 2:24 PM  

Even though you may not enjoy spending time answering these people, Vox, I think you're doing a great work by posting up these posts. It lands another blow on the media's credibility the more it's displayed just how two-faced they are with interviews.

And we all know that the media lives and dies on credibility.

Anonymous Philipp January 17, 2017 2:29 PM  

From his questions you can see he that he only thinks in terms of setting up think tanks, running candidates for office, building a political movement.

He is not able to grasp that a guy with a blog/website/youtube channel can have more influence these days than an entire political movement with think tanks and candidates, as long as this guy has the right ideas and is able to identify the prevailing trends in history, science and identity politics.

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 17, 2017 2:29 PM  

JWM in SD wrote:How did they not know where you're based out of? That is not hard to find out. No wonder they still don't get it. That's a real sign of insular thought.

I think in this case it's more like learned laziness. They are used to people jumping at the chance to talk to them and tell them everything. Why bother doing a lot of research if you can just get the interviewee to answer your every question and you only plan on using 1 or 2 quotes from them at most?

Anonymous VFM #7916 January 17, 2017 2:29 PM  

It's amazing that the SJW left is predictable. They want to trick the Alt-West into entering the coveted corridors of power and influence, where they can be seduced and corrupted.

It really emphasizes two points:

1. The left/progressive/SJW/globalist/elite still does not get why they lost.

2. Don't try to front-run Trump.

Anonymous Tipsy January 17, 2017 2:31 PM  

Driving to work today I listened to widely syndicated radio talk show hosts Armstrong and Getty interview a reporter (Emily Somethingorother) from the Washington Post. The interview was funny and lively, but at one point Emily made an off-hand comment that essentially the Alt-Right and White Nationalists are one in the same. Armstrong and Getty immediately pushed back and Emily hemmed and hawed for about 30 seconds before she found her footing again. It wasn't long after that the interview was over. After the interview, A&G ranted that the interview was going great until that false equivalence was made. (The downloadable podcast should be available tomorrow, this interview happened around 8:30 AM).

I bring this up because the Leftist media is pushing the following narrative hard, namely Trump = Alt-Right = White Nationalist = Nazi.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 17, 2017 2:32 PM  

That's a real sign of insular thought.

That's a sign of complete uninterest in the answers.

Blogger Jose January 17, 2017 2:35 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:And we all know that the media lives and dies on credibility.

Say what?

Media live and die on their adherence to the narrative their patrons pay for. "Credibility" assumes that the audience has any relevance to the decision-making of those in charge.

Media follow the golden rule: those with the gold make the rules!

Anonymous Rather, Not January 17, 2017 2:43 PM  

Vox, I would have thought it could have made it amusing for you, or at least dragged interesting information about their bias and slimy methods out of them, especially if you mirror some of the worst questions.

Reporter question: "Where are you based?" Italy. Followed by a link to the google search "Vox Day" "Lives in" Hypothetical Vox question: "How would you describe your skill in using google, or any alternative search engines?" or "When doing preparatory work for your interviews, how do you decide what questions are interesting enough to ask, as opposed to just looking up?" or asking a NYT/WaPo reporter "How do you feel about working for a Mexican Billionaires/Bezos' Hardcopy Blog?"

If you're bored with them, so be it, but I thought the cat could enjoy playing with the mice. Even if it isn't amusing to you, I am sure you could create tremendous amusement among the VFM and Ilk, although I appreciate that is not your objective. It might even create an incentive for a reporter interviewing you to be sharp, on point, and ask good questions, and avoid being humiliated when you publish the full thing. Anyway, that is how I thought it could make sense.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 17, 2017 2:45 PM  

Their description of the Alt-Right is actually one of the better ones I've seen, except when they went out of their way to stick in pot-shots like "media-driven provocateurs." At least it's in the ballpark; they didn't call us an extremist branch of conservatism.

"Can I interview you ..."

"I don't know, can you?" Where do these people learn English?

Blogger Beau January 17, 2017 2:50 PM  

"I don't know, can you?"

laughed, I did.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 2:51 PM  

"Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now? "

no no... if we ever start a party... its going to have some kind of booze in the name. like the old bourbon democrats.

We'd be like... Wild Turkey Republicans.

Think about it. There's the normal every day nice guy republican... then there is the republican you run into that's toting a bottle of Wild Turkey 101.

He's not so nice.


Blogger The Rev January 17, 2017 2:51 PM  

@14 Agreed. The only reason to keep doing it is to keep dressing them down.

Anonymous JustAnotherPairOfEyes January 17, 2017 2:52 PM  

After I become extremely famous and the MSM wants me to answer questions, I'll tell them that they can contact me only in the comments on my blog. And that they must agree that anything they write there is available to all on one of those free use licenses that the left likes so much for software (Gnu Free Documentation License). Then their crap will be visible to all.

Blogger Clint January 17, 2017 2:54 PM  

Nate wrote:"Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now? "

no no... if we ever start a party... its going to have some kind of booze in the name. like the old bourbon democrats.

We'd be like... Wild Turkey Republicans.

Think about it. There's the normal every day nice guy republican... then there is the republican you run into that's toting a bottle of Wild Turkey 101.

He's not so nice.


That plan is so crazy, it might just work.

Blogger Bard January 17, 2017 2:58 PM  

Nothing there to use against you. Next time, charge by the question.

Anonymous /pol/ is always right January 17, 2017 2:58 PM  

Ironic reply considering the rumor Jared Kushner is working with Mike Cernovich and a few others to destroy the Alt-Right from within.

This is why Cernovich helped doxx The Right Stuff and other shitlords...

The Alt-Right were just like the Sturmabteilung... useful right until they were not, then it's purge time.

For good or ill, Trump used the Alt-Right as pawns. Now Trump is working through his Jewish son-in-law to crush the Alt-Right totally. It could be a smart move.

PS: The next one to get doxxed will be Ricky Vaughn. Watch and see.

Blogger lowercaseb January 17, 2017 3:01 PM  

They way the article turned out is just as laughable...

(...)proponents of a host of other ideologies that were thought to have died out in American politics not long after World War II.

Specifically, long dead ideas such as dignity, masculinity and self-respect. Like polio, the left had thought that they had eradicated these ideas by inoculating the youth against them.

I'm sorry folks...but you all have been outed as carriers.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 17, 2017 3:05 PM  

@23 Cail Corishev

"I don't know, can you?" Where do these people learn English?


In Journo-list school, of course, and from their Boomer editors.


Josey Wales demonstrates proper etiquette towards the press.
"How's it work on stains?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sh0wr7HH8Y

Blogger slarrow January 17, 2017 3:05 PM  

I actually thought this article was decent. It captured several of the inner movements and tensions going on among the Right these days. I think it benefited from the reporter not seeming to really understand what he was studying, so he ended up passing along more unvarnished perspective from his interviewees than normal (if he had understood more, I think he would have fit more into his pre-chosen categories--he did enough of that as it was.)

Of course, for an article purporting to be about how the "alt-right is coming to Washington", it actually included little about those who consider themselves alt-right and less about figures trying to set up shop in Washington. And the swipe at VD for only responding in writing and then not including any of the answers was cowardly. But I've seen worse.

Anonymous Donald Trump January 17, 2017 3:06 PM  

Plans to set up think tanks or run candidates for office or set up other political infrastructure?

Thinks tanks have tanked due to lack of thinking! I learn more from YouTube and blogs! When we drain the swamp that includes them. We need fresh ideas!

Blogger SteelPalm January 17, 2017 3:08 PM  

The really hilarious part of that exchange is the reporter's "(I’m not sure where you’re based)".

For fuck's sake, one would think even a lazy leftist idiot could be bothered to spend a minute or two searching the Internet, or this blog, for such basic information.

And then we wonder why they legitimately don't understand the Alt Right, even when they're not being dishonest.

Well, understanding the Alt-Right is a far more difficult task than finding out what country Vox lives in.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 17, 2017 3:10 PM  

Nate wrote:"Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now? "

no no... if we ever start a party... its going to have some kind of booze in the name. like the old bourbon democrats.

We'd be like... Wild Turkey Republicans.

Think about it. There's the normal every day nice guy republican... then there is the republican you run into that's toting a bottle of Wild Turkey 101.

He's not so nice.



Mpst of those guys drink rodeo Crown.

Anonymous Kryst January 17, 2017 3:10 PM  

That's rich.

Some (((british))) poser faggot pretending he's some sort of Roman hero ala Cincinnatus.

You've become everything you used to blog about hating, you fucking lameass. Of course you used to work for (((WND))) you fawking zio cuck lameass.

You have zero grasp of American politics, as all you posers and shills larp as lolbertarians in your EuroCuckCaves.

The only notion of American politics you have is whatever fawking (((breitbart LA))) is feeding you. I knew who you work for. You fucking fake.

Your friend Mike is a fawking poser, larping as an afftha maleth. He isn't a fucking author. He isn't a fucking filmmaker. He's a social media boob that rode OUR movement and ideas to a full time shill spot- only to denounce it all happened. LOL. But you team up with shills and remnants of neocon past, and you shill more with your zionist media buddies.

You're a shell of your former self. If your beady eyed little un-american la raza supporting azz was remotely close to the frontline, you'd know what a joke you are. Your father is an un-american crook, and cheated Americans out of money. You are an un-american fraud living in a EuroCuckCave fantasy world in your head.

You have no "allies". Just shill business partners.

What the fuck did you do to yourself?

You were smart enough to stand on your own. But you allow anything to attach itself to you for fawking shekels, as you sit in your EuroCuckCave and pretend like your some sort of brain. You cared more about your platform, and dare i say it, shekels...than any movement or idea. Your words are hollow and empty. You are a self serving underling.

Do you know who you work for? Did you know that going in you zio cuck fraud?

Keep shilling for Andrew's dead body. Maybe if you all keep beating his dead body, you'll get more shekels. Go suck Thiel's AIDS you homosexual retards. Anything for shekels or perceived power, right faggots?

You're a fucking sellout Voxxy.


Anonymous Rather, Not January 17, 2017 3:12 PM  

Another interesting question could be "Which of the 16 points (link) do you disagree with?"

Blogger Rusty Fife January 17, 2017 3:16 PM  

Kryst wrote:

You're a fucking sellout Voxxy.



Compelling argument. The mispelling really adds to the emotion. You should start a blog.

Blogger lowercaseb January 17, 2017 3:19 PM  

Rather, Not wrote:Another interesting question could be "Which of the 16 points (link) do you disagree with?"

That's a good point. Has any in the MSM even attempted to address the 16 points or do they just pointedly ignore them?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 17, 2017 3:24 PM  

Kryst what a larping nazi drama queen.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 17, 2017 3:24 PM  

8. Damn Crackers January 17, 2017 2:21 PM
Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now?



ahhhh, the Know Nothings.

from back in the day when American men still remembered that REPUBLICANISM was a founding principle of the nation.

sad to think that this may have been ( generally ) forgotten for over 150 years now.



12. Sam the Man January 17, 2017 2:24 PM
I also find it odd that groups that have gotten ahead by having an in-group identity preference, hate the idea of other groups doing the same



wut?

you aren't thinking this through.

1 - a strong in group preference, by default, indicates a strong out group DISpreference. otherwise there would be no basis for the in group or a preference for it

2 - IF you prefer the success of your ingroup over the outgroup THEN you will try to implement policies and social norms which hobble the outgroup against which you are competing

3 - when you are the foreigner and tiny minority, this means implementing policies and norms harmful to the majority and native culture



30. /pol/ is always right January 17, 2017 2:58 PM
Ironic reply considering the rumor Jared Kushner is working with Mike Cernovich and a few others to destroy the Alt-Right from within.



except Cernovich isn't INSIDE the Alt-Right. he's not even a part of it.

also, how does exposing a Jew posturing as a Nazi do anything to discredit the Alt-Right?

i mean, maybe we can point and laugh at the Alt-White ( Alt-Reich? )for a few minutes ... but even THEY are being strengthened by the removal of false and treasonous actors from nominal positions of leadership within their movement.

Anonymous Philipp January 17, 2017 3:26 PM  

@39: of course, the MSM ignores the 16 points. The media wants to accuse the Alt-Right of racism and call them nazis and fascists. Talking about the 16 points would defeat that purpose. Better write another article about Spencer and his conference and the Roman/Nazi salute.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 3:27 PM  

Your friend Mike is a fawking poser, larping as an afftha maleth. He isn't a fucking author. He isn't a fucking filmmaker. He's a social media boob that rode OUR movement and ideas to a full time shill spot- only to denounce it all happened. LOL. But you team up with shills and remnants of neocon past, and you shill more with your zionist media buddies.

Kyrst? That name sounds familiar. Oh, now I recall. Mike Enoch's Jewish wife, right?

It's amusing how the hard-core Alt-White didn't realize that the Alt-West and the Alt-Lite are the genuine item, not the Swastika Panty Crew. But my read on them was correct, they weren't real Nazis at all.

Anonymous /pol/ is always right January 17, 2017 3:27 PM  

You can point and laugh at the Alt-White (including guys like Ricky Vaughn) but then you go and steal their shit and claim it as your own. For the shekels.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 3:29 PM  

Has any in the MSM even attempted to address the 16 points or do they just pointedly ignore them?

They completely ignore them.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 17, 2017 3:29 PM  

Note that both Vox and iSteve would only respond to written questions, and neither were really mentioned in the article. Also note the question put to Cernovich where his Persian "partner" did the Googling - what, journo-lists don't have smart phones, or they don't know how to use a search engine, or they are too lazy, or something else?

Bear in mind these are supposed to be the smarter journo-lists.

Blogger Natalie January 17, 2017 3:29 PM  

Nate wrote:"Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now? "

no no... if we ever start a party... its going to have some kind of booze in the name. like the old bourbon democrats.

We'd be like... Wild Turkey Republicans.

Think about it. There's the normal every day nice guy republican... then there is the republican you run into that's toting a bottle of Wild Turkey 101.

He's not so nice.



Woodford Republicans

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 3:31 PM  

You can point and laugh at the Alt-White (including guys like Ricky Vaughn) but then you go and steal their shit and claim it as your own. For the shekels.

We don't steal any of their shit. Or their Jewish wives. They're frauds, sport. They're as genuine as the guys saluting at the NPI conference. Have you not figured that out yet?

Blogger Doom January 17, 2017 3:31 PM  

On the good side, the media needs you far more than you need it. If you would just play ball. Is there much left to the media? They continue as they were, while advertising and billionaire bailouts cease. Eventually they will have to produce truth, or add more in.

Tipsy,

As alt-west (as I understand things), and previously anti-alt-white, I am... opening up to that, to a degree. All said and done, they are better than the (other) options. Then again, the Democrat party is a perfect example of what can go so very wrong with 'alt-white'.

They are dangerous but could be useful. Pure ideology, or pure greed as it is now with the original white-solution party, dooms anything. Purity itself is a false notion, at least in a fallen world.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 17, 2017 3:33 PM  

/pol/ is always right wrote:...but then you go and steal their shit...

The 14 words?

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 3:33 PM  

I love it when Alt-Retard shows up.

Blogger Sagramore January 17, 2017 3:35 PM  

Bumping this to the top of your inbox.

People really try this shit? Really? If I don't get a reply I just assume someone is busy or not interested. This is like those read receipts.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 17, 2017 3:36 PM  

@44 /pol/
You can point and laugh at the Alt-White

OoooOOOoooh, permission to laugh at LARPy nitwits?
Thanks!

Blogger liberranter January 17, 2017 3:36 PM  

Vox, I think adopting Stefan's position is a good idea for one very important reason: your stance on any given issue (or range of them) can easily be gleaned from your collective body of written work. Any TRUTH SEEKING (key qualifier) journalist can refer to such and find the answers to any questions (s)he has about where you stand. Never gonna happen, though.

The fact notwithstanding that truthseeking journalists among the MSM are as extinct as pterodactyls, mainstream journalists set world records and the lowest bars for intellectual and professional laziness, even without a failed ideological encumbrance. This is why the talentless schlub to whom you deigned to respond didn't bother to quote you and certainly never had any intention of doing so.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 17, 2017 3:36 PM  

44. /pol/ is always right January 17, 2017 3:27 PM
For the shekels.



uh-waaaaaaah?

Vox stopped Ricky Vaughn from publishing a book?

you know another term Vox stole? the "Great Depression". he should totally give back all the royalties on that.

because only the person who invented the term can use it or profit from it.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 17, 2017 3:38 PM  

There there Kryst, show us on the Ernst Rohm doll where the bad man touched you.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 17, 2017 3:39 PM  

VD wrote:You can point and laugh at the Alt-White (including guys like Ricky Vaughn) but then you go and steal their shit and claim it as your own. For the shekels.

We don't steal any of their shit. Or their Jewish wives. They're frauds, sport. They're as genuine as the guys saluting at the NPI conference. Have you not figured that out yet?


Now is a good time to remind the alt-white that a full 25% of those who surrounded and encouraged the Bundy's at Malheur were informers.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 17, 2017 3:39 PM  

Crap, I guess "Four Roses" or "Ardbeg" Republicans doesn't have the same ring to it.

Wild Turkey it is.

Anonymous /pol/ is always right January 17, 2017 3:40 PM  

Ricky Vaughn is a "fraud" with a "Jewish wife" ?

Don't bother deleting the claim. We have the screenshot.

Blogger Shimshon January 17, 2017 3:41 PM  

I see the alt-white trolls are out in force.

It's amusing that for such a lengthy article, he couldn't do more than barely give you a mention. And to not even mention Castalia House by name? The arrogant prick should burn. At least he gave Cernovich and Milo some decent coverage. The ongoing obfuscation as to what PizzaGate is really about is also telling. No matter. Heads will roll. Best for it to be considered irrelevant until Friday.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 3:42 PM  

Ricky Vaughn is a "fraud" with a "Jewish wife" ?

You're clearly too short for the ride. Go away now.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 17, 2017 3:42 PM  

Crap, I guess "Four Roses" or "Ardbeg" Republicans doesn't have the same ring to it.

Well, I dunno. Old Crow Republicans has something going for it. But Ben Franklin liked turkeys. On the other hand, a lot of what the alt Right has learned isn't new, our ancestors knew it.

So how about Old Grandad Republicans?

Blogger Silly But True January 17, 2017 3:47 PM  

"Quid pro quo, Politico, quid pro quo. No no no you were doing fine, you had been courteous and receptive to courtesy, you had established trust with the embarrassing truth about Milo, and now this ham-handed segue into your questionnaire tut-tut-tut it won't do."

Blogger BassmanCO January 17, 2017 3:47 PM  

@59 /pol/ is always right, a little reading comprehension for you. You conflating Ricky Vaughn with the alt-retard (sorry, alt-white), does not mean Vox included him in your response. You asked about the alt-retard generally and threw in in Ricky Vaughn after the fact. Vox responded to your question as it read. Anyone with an above 70 IQ would see that, but I guess we'll cut you some slack.

Anonymous craig January 17, 2017 3:48 PM  

6. VD "...you're supposed to quote something, otherwise, what the f*** is the interviewee even talking to you for?"

It reads to me like the interviewer is fishing for ambitious types trying to worm their way into the corridors of DC, in order to exploit these people as a future source of insider info. The media establishment has, for decades, cultivated sources from both parties among the usual establishment suspects. Now they are panicked over the fact that none of their usual sources are on Trump's team.

Blogger Cerdic Ricing January 17, 2017 3:49 PM  

VD,

/pol/ had the same intuition distrusting these people as well, which makes the /pol/ is always right troll ironically funny. Something was (and still is) off with most of the Alt-Retard.

I tend to like the Alt-Lite people even better than most of the Alt-'tard. They make their position as different noticeable, whereas the others are snakes, liars attempting to lead astray. I can work with people that aren't of the same ideology, but attempts to infiltrate are obviously malevolent.

Every single one of their leaders has panned out to be a snake. It'd be foolish to not notice the pattern and to not suspect their remaining associates.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 17, 2017 3:49 PM  

You've become everything you used to blog about hating, you fucking lameass.

Wrong place, wrong time, and gay to boot. Three strikes!

Anonymous WaterBoy January 17, 2017 3:49 PM  

"Plans to set up think tanks"

Isn't that what Brainstorm already is?

Blogger James Dixon January 17, 2017 3:50 PM  

> Ironic reply considering the rumor Jared Kushner is working with Mike Cernovich and a few others to destroy the Alt-Right from within.

Sure he is. And even if he was, what good is doxxing a handful of the better know people in the movement going to accomplish?

> You have zero grasp of American politics...

How many people predicted Trump was going to win? Vox had the Trumpslide shirts all ready to go.

Blogger JDC January 17, 2017 3:53 PM  

Compelling argument. The mispelling really adds to the emotion. You should start a blog.

She did, it was called Pox Vay.

Anonymous Tony Drucker January 17, 2017 3:57 PM  

The White assholes with small penises who have to degrade someone based on their skin color already have a place in DC, it's called the GOP.

These people are frightening. Call it whatever you want - alt. right, new right, european identitarianism - it's still about white supremacy. "Peaceful ethnic cleansing"??? Making movies that promote their agenda? They are talking about all the things Hitler did during Nazi Germany. Trump may not be one of their accolytes, but he certainly made their cause more overt and even legitimate by aligning with them during the campaign, helping spread their message about Muslims in America, and with picking Steve Bannon as a close advisor. Their way of using propaganda - by repeating the same message so often it becomes a sort of truth as people believe - has ALWAYS been a Trump tactic, stolen directly from Nazi Germany. Frightening. Damn frightening. This is NOT the America of our forefathers.

Blogger Student in Blue January 17, 2017 4:00 PM  

@20. Jose
Media live and die on their adherence to the narrative their patrons pay for. "Credibility" assumes that the audience has any relevance to the decision-making of those in charge.

If the media has no credibility with anyone, then their patrons have zero incentive to continue funding them. There's a reason why Bezos spends large amounts of money propping up the NYT, versus taking that same amount of money and hiring hobos to angrily shout his viewpoints.

They only get the money because eyeballs are on them. Chipping away at credibility chips away at the number of eyeballs. The vast majority of people ignore that homeless man, after all.

Blogger pyrrhus January 17, 2017 4:01 PM  

@24 We'd be like... Wild Turkey Republicans.

Maybe there could be a Jack division too?!

Anonymous Sharrukin January 17, 2017 4:04 PM  

71. Tony Drucker

These people are frightening.

This is NOT the America of our forefathers.


https://infogalactic.com/info/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character.

Blogger Shimshon January 17, 2017 4:06 PM  

@71 They are talking about all the things Hitler did during Nazi Germany.

You know who else made movies? Hitler! Hitler, that's who!!! (yemach shmo)

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 17, 2017 4:06 PM  

74. Sharrukin January 17, 2017 4:04 PM
This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character.



those aren't Tony's forefathers ...

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 4:10 PM  

This is NOT the America of our forefathers.

No, it's not. But thanks to the Alt-Right, it will be again.

Blogger lowercaseb January 17, 2017 4:12 PM  

Nate wrote:I love it when Alt-Retard shows up.

to be honest...I was trying to make polite conversation while the poor fellow @36 be-shat himself in public. It didn't occur to me that he would do it on purpose and then be proud of the result.

Blogger Bob Loblaw January 17, 2017 4:13 PM  

Known until recently as the “alt-right,” it is a dispersed movement that encompasses a range of right-wing figures who are mostly young, mostly addicted to provocation...

How lazy. Apparently if you don't roll over and accept their framing you're "addicted to provocation".

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 17, 2017 4:14 PM  

71. Tony Drucker January 17, 2017 3:57 PM
These people are frightening.



if my people frighten you Tony, then you should cease living with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKS6xy87ewk

you should move some place more hospitable and to your liking. Rwanda, maybe?

Blogger maniacprovost January 17, 2017 4:18 PM  

Um, Vox, they can't use your answers because you used vocabulary and sentence structure above the 6th grade level.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 17, 2017 4:21 PM  

Tony Drucker wrote: {removed name calling : evil racist nazi bad-thinking stinky poopy-heads etc.}

Skerd rabbit should go back to his safe-space.

Anonymous It's 2015+2 January 17, 2017 4:24 PM  

The commies are likely going to step up their attempts to divide n' fracture. I suspect these seemingly crazed commenters might be of that persuasion.

Not to say the alt-white doesn't have it's crazies, but on the chans and elsewhere there have been an increasing amount of similar themed messages.

Anonymous Rather, Not January 17, 2017 4:25 PM  

Vox, I would like to amend my earlier question for question interview suggestion, to be that reporters have to agree, or disagree (with explanation) in writing for online publication for each of the 16 points prior to you answering their questions. I think that would make their head explode, and at a minimum, it would ensure they are misrepresenting from malice rather than pure ignorance. Plus they would have to contort themselves into pretzels to avoid being ignorant tools, or victims of their SJW allies. And we all know, the standards for acceptable behavior are always fluid on the left.

Not sure if 'agree/disagree with explanation' or 'support/oppose with explanation' is the better construct.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 17, 2017 4:26 PM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:....
So how about Old Grandad Republicans?

Or Bad Grandpa Republicans.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 4:38 PM  

"Maybe there could be a Jack division too?!"

80 proof vs 101.

would tat be like alt-lite?

Blogger Fenris Wulf January 17, 2017 4:38 PM  

VD wrote:Swastika Panty Crew.
16-page thread on Stormfront: What to do when your mom goes through your stuff and finds your swastika underpants.
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t937610/?s=12fa3f8f55d50d85849fa9b6a5e36634

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 4:40 PM  

"Frightening. Damn frightening. "

That's a feature.

Not a bug.

Blogger cheddarman January 17, 2017 4:41 PM  

Kryst, you cant even take a page from Mein Kampf and cultivate useful allies. Purges come after you come to power, moron.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2017 4:42 PM  

" Purges come after you come to power, moron."

#REKT

Anonymous Eric the Red January 17, 2017 4:45 PM  

Great answers. The only thing I would have done differently is to preface each one with "Well, Mr. lying cunt of the leftist propaganda arm, ...".

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 17, 2017 4:49 PM  

This is NOT the America of our forefathers.

Tony, dude, we understand you have two mommies and maybe even four fathers, but that's just not relevant. OK?

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 17, 2017 4:50 PM  

I love the smell of LARPing in the morning...it smells like...Reichstag.

And no, I have no idea if I am referring to the media or to the nazis.

I honestly can't tell them apart. Today's (((Daily Shoah))) was indistinguishable from (((NPR)))... complete with whisper voices of arrogant shame.

Anonymous Mathias January 17, 2017 4:54 PM  

@93

Indistinguishable? The latter is a parody of the former, so an identical aesthetic is to be expected. Not that I am really a fan, but last I checked those guys wouldn't last 5 min on air on a (((real network))).

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 17, 2017 4:59 PM  

I know Vox has more self-control than I do, but I really did feel an "I live in Italy, you dumb fucking cunt!" moment approaching when I got to that DC visits question.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 17, 2017 5:03 PM  

@71 Tony
The White assholes with small penises who have to degrade someone based on their skin color already have a place in DC, it's called the GOP.

Dude, that whole "small penis" thing is between you and your "friends" from DC Grindr, ok?

We. Don't. Care.

Blogger Thomas Henderson January 17, 2017 5:13 PM  

The right is about restoration. The left is about revolution.
The right is about authority. The left is about social control through technocracy.
The right is about hierarchy and stratification. The left is about equality and inclusion.
The right is about duty. The left is about rights.
The right is productive. The left is parasitic.
The right builds. The left tears down.

These divisions are not cosmetic; they run deep into how we view Man and civilization.

Stefan Molyneaux's approach is best: passivism - do not engage. The press is converged and leftist. As Moldbug says: become worthy, accept power, rule. Once the right is again in the ascendancy we can talk then. Until then, let them alone to babble in their echo chambers.

Blogger Nathan Wright January 17, 2017 5:14 PM  

Why refer them to Cernovich, given that he said explicitly he's not Alt Right (after previously saying he was)?

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 17, 2017 5:21 PM  

Mathias, apparently (((Enoch))) couldn't last on theirs, either...

Blogger Cail Corishev January 17, 2017 5:29 PM  

I love it when Alt-Retard shows up.

It's like a gang of Harold Lauders, only less personable.

Blogger VFM #7191 January 17, 2017 5:31 PM  

Enoch isn't going anywhere. He's still going to be co-hosting the show, to the dismay of all the LARPing purists.

Blogger pyrrhus January 17, 2017 5:33 PM  

@86. "Maybe there could be a Jack division too?!"

80 proof vs 101.

would tat be like alt-lite?

Could be the women's division....
The heavyweight division could be Bacardi 151....

Anonymous Trimegistus January 17, 2017 5:43 PM  

Every moron knows the only real drink for the right is Val-U-Rite.

Blogger JACIII January 17, 2017 5:45 PM  

Barrel Proof Republicans for those geographically deprived of the Turkey.



Russell Republicans.

Blogger John Wright January 17, 2017 5:47 PM  

@49
" Eventually they will have to produce truth, or add more in."

You are more sanguine than I. The press in a democracy is what a courtier is in a monarchy: a corrupt buffon tasked with flattering those in power with the lies he is paid to tell.

I speak as a newspaperman from way back.

Anonymous Trumpety January 17, 2017 5:49 PM  

It's smart that the Alt Righties not do voice interviews. My experience is that when people speak, they tend to say what they really think. And that's not good for the Alt Righties.

But you know what the funny part is? The media gets it right oftentimes: "this loose confederacy of meme-generating internet trolls"

Awesome.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 17, 2017 5:56 PM  

86. Nate January 17, 2017 4:38 PM
would tat be like alt-lite?


Alky-Lite




97. Thomas Henderson January 17, 2017 5:13 PM
The left is about rights.



no, the Left is about Privileges.

based on Race, Sex, Sexual Orientation and Religion.

all designed to disadvantage the White Man.

Anonymous 3000Feet&Climbing January 17, 2017 6:12 PM  

At first glance, Molyneaux's position seems petulant or prideful, but it is now obvious to me why it is the correct one. First, to paraphrase Vox, the interviews are essentially an invitation to half oneself smeared, or snarked at. Not to be portrayed with any balance or depth. Second, there is no need for an interview when the volume of material on freedomainradio is so vast as to capture thoughts on almost every conceivable topic of politics. The journalists can look through it, and go from there. Otherwise, they are just being lazy and going for the 'gotcha' optic, to fill in the pre-written narrative.

As for 'purges' discussed on this thread, I wouldn't pay them any heed. If a person or idea has merit, they will have staying power. The web is working pretty well in since 2015 as a marketplace of ideas, and hopefully (censorious Merkel/Soros-types notwithstanding), it should continue to do so in the USA going fwd.

Anonymous Trumpety January 17, 2017 6:21 PM  

" If a person or idea has merit, they will have staying power. The web is working pretty well in since 2015 as a marketplace of ideas, and hopefully (censorious Merkel/Soros-types notwithstanding), it should continue to do so in the USA going fwd."

Indeed. Like civil rights, same sex marriage, progressive taxation, due process, healthcare as a social program, social security, women's suffrage.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 6:28 PM  

Why refer them to Cernovich, given that he said explicitly he's not Alt Right (after previously saying he was)?

I don't answer loaded questions from the media, and I certainly don't answer them here.

Either grow up and learn to ask honest and straightforward questions or don't bother asking them at all.

Tells: "given" and "explicitly".

Do try to keep in mind that I am much smarter than you are.

Anonymous BBGKB January 17, 2017 6:29 PM  

CIA director stands on dead bodies and pretends they died to protect America instead of serving Israel & the House of Saud.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/john-brennan-cia-trump-dossier-leak-233674

Anonymous ink1 January 17, 2017 6:35 PM  

i think the reason is simple. You cant lose a fight you dont join.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 17, 2017 6:38 PM  

Tiny Duck is back as Tony Drucker I see.

Style has changed just a bit though its still recognizable.

No idea why he keep showing up but I guess the Soros check still cashes. Man's/Woman/Other gotta eat I guess.

In any case who cares about the .Alt White , they aren't going to be in charge of anything and when the .Alt West is in power, they won't be a problem anyway. They'll have enough to carp about to stay busy but it will be White enough to keep them placid.

Blogger RobertT January 17, 2017 6:40 PM  

" ...and that exposure was sufficient to dissuade me from it. "

smart guy

Blogger SteelPalm January 17, 2017 6:44 PM  

@87 Fenris Wulf 16-page thread on Stormfront: What to do when your mom goes through your stuff and finds your swastika underpants.
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t937610/?s=12fa3f8f55d50d85849fa9b6a5e36634


Slightly off-topic, but this is the funniest forum topic I have read in months. Even as someone who uses the term "swastika panties" (credit to Vox), I would have thought this was a parody or you were pulling my leg before visiting the link.

It's just too much, including the admission that the resident adult Stormfag lives with a mother who goes through his underwear.

To be fair to the idiot who founded TSR, (which I considered at least as imbecilic for their pan-Europeanism as much as for their Jew-obsession), a great many Jew-haters had/have Jewish wives. A lot of German officers under the Third Reich had Jewish lovers, too.

Hell, a lot of famous Jew-haters were themselves Jews. Torquemada, for instance, who was the head of the Spanish Inquisition and expelled the Jews from the country with the 1492 Alhambra Decree, had heavily Jewish ancestry.

So it's a drearily typical contradiction, although still hilarious.

Anonymous 3000Feet&Climbing January 17, 2017 6:48 PM  

Smart alec eh? Those ideas will be reformed going fwd. There was NOT a marketplace of ideas for much of the 20th Century due to institutional bias, gatekeeping, cherry picking & omission. Things will improve, but not overnight. It took decades to eff things up. It will probably take 15-20 yrs to fix things, at least partially.

Anonymous A true /pol/ack January 17, 2017 6:52 PM  

"/pol/ is always right" is a shill here to try and discredit /pol/ and create a schism between the readers of this blog and /pol/. The Kushner as puppet master theme was a shill tactic the d&c brigade tried on /pol/ and were laughed off the board.

D&C is really the only tactic they have left and its good to see they have ramped it up to 11. It means they are scared.

Blogger praetorian January 17, 2017 6:52 PM  

Enoch isn't going anywhere. He's still going to be co-hosting the show, to the dismay of all the LARPing purists.

It's a fucking shame that an obvious D&C op is working this well the week of The God Emperor's ascendency to The Golden Throne.

Sad!

Blogger Lazarus January 17, 2017 6:53 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Hell, a lot of famous Jew-haters were themselves Jews.

Add this guy to the list, he invented Shia Islam:

ABDALLAH IBN SABA

A Jew of Yemen, Arabia, of the seventh century, who settled in Medina and embraced Islam. Having adversely criticized Calif Othman's administration, he was banished from the town. Thence he went to Egypt, where he founded an antiothmanian sect, to promote the interests of Ali. On account of his learning he obtained great influence there, and formulated the doctrine that, just as every prophet had an assistant who afterward succeeded him, Mohammed's vizier was Ali, who had therefore been kept out of the califate by deceit.

Blogger Mountain Man January 17, 2017 6:53 PM  

@36
Somewhere there is a padded room missing its nutcase.

Blogger James Dixon January 17, 2017 6:54 PM  

> This is NOT the America of our forefathers.

Give us time. We're working on it.

Blogger Mountain Man January 17, 2017 6:57 PM  

"Now is a good time to remind the alt-white that a full 25% of those who surrounded and encouraged the Bundy's at Malheur were informers."

Bingo !

Blogger SteelPalm January 17, 2017 7:01 PM  

@119

Interesting, didn't even know about him.

It's depressing when I think of how many Jews ally with ideologies (or even help create the ideologies) that end up destroying them.

Him being from Medina is an even sadder note; it used to be a Jewish city in the early 7th century. Muhammed appeared at the gates one day, and begged the Jews to let him in. They did, and within a few years, he had either massacred or enslaved all of them.

Now of course Medina is in Saudi Arabia and the second holiest city for the Death Cult.

Admittedly, this is a problem Greek, Roman, and now white Western civilizations suffer from, too. Probably not to the degree Jews do, though.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 17, 2017 7:18 PM  

God this is all so pointless

Blogger CynicalMan January 17, 2017 7:23 PM  

With so many terrifying people out there how in the hell do people like Tony Drucker make it out of bed? Or do they just stay in bed all day masturbate and troll?

Blogger Lazarus January 17, 2017 7:23 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Interesting, didn't even know about him.

Neither did I till 2 days ago. I saved the link. Knew it would come in handy somehow.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 17, 2017 7:33 PM  

Trump's alpha maleness cannot be resisted, apparently.

FEMEN engages in "grab back" in Spain as wax model of Trump unveiled and may I say that the French FEMEN chicks are much easier on the eyes than this Spanish model. No indication how much realism goes into the average wax statue, or if this lesbian-looking chick would know if anything was missing.

C'mon FEMEN, screen your topless dancers better than this.

Blogger rycamor January 17, 2017 7:35 PM  

Nate wrote:"Anybody using the "Know Nothing" party name now? "
no no... if we ever start a party... its going to have some kind of booze in the name. like the old bourbon democrats.


The Alt-retards are the Mad Dog 20/20 Republicans.

Blogger praetorian January 17, 2017 7:41 PM  

God this is all so pointless

Truer words have rarely been typed into a small text box on the internet.

Blogger VD January 17, 2017 7:56 PM  

Having adversely criticized Calif Othman's administration, he was banished from the town.

I'll admit it, I laughed.

Blogger Sweetbeak greatest fan January 17, 2017 8:03 PM  

The unCivil Right

Anonymous Quicksilver75 January 17, 2017 8:09 PM  

Agreed. Comment of the month. Libs have 100s of millions sloshing around to pay soboteurs & agitators. These Alt Wht orgs are like fly paper for malcontents, ego maniacs & the naive

Anonymous Vin January 17, 2017 8:09 PM  

Any male who tries the 'small penis' insult is either:

A) low T gamma under his fat, bitchy wife's control

B) is really a chick

'Frightening. Damn frightening' is the tell.

Go away woman.

Blogger Lazarus January 17, 2017 8:15 PM  

VD wrote:Having adversely criticized Calif Othman's administration, he was banished from the town.

I'll admit it, I laughed.


Yah, its like "This Coke thing is killing it. Let's make a knockoff and horn in on some market share".

Blogger JWM in SD January 17, 2017 8:31 PM  

Why do I doubt the that the trolls in this thread are in fact genuine? CTR?

Blogger The Kurgan January 17, 2017 8:50 PM  

I think Moonshine Republicans would be better

Blogger The Kurgan January 17, 2017 8:56 PM  

Kryst,
Would you, parchance, have brightly coloured flags in your basement dwelling of a red/white/black colour scheme?
Just a wild guess, mind.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 17, 2017 9:10 PM  

Why do I doubt the that the trolls in this thread are in fact genuine?

Because the idea that people would routinely go where they aren't wanted and embarrass themselves like that for free is like the first act of the saddest after-school special ever.

Anonymous Man of the Atom January 17, 2017 9:18 PM  

John Wright wrote:@49

" Eventually they will have to produce truth, or add more in."

You are more sanguine than I. The press in a democracy is what a courtier is in a monarchy: a corrupt buffon tasked with flattering those in power with the lies he is paid to tell.

I speak as a newspaperman from way back.


Only the Jester could tell a Truth to the King.

Blogger Kona Commuter January 17, 2017 10:10 PM  

This article has a very prominent disclaimer - Microsoft and MSN don't want to get on the Trumps bad side

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/comment-trump%E2%80%99s-presidency-is-doomed/ar-AAlXd3h?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartanntp

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 17, 2017 10:45 PM  

Yeah, butthurt Commie refuses to say the pissgate communique is false and it's all Trumps fault that he and is fellows are dishonest, gullible clowns.

Yawn.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 17, 2017 11:21 PM  

Thinktank? Really? Are you really that ignorant, Mr. "reporter?" Or just that lazy? I mean, holy cow, did they send a journalism school drop-out out on his first cub assignment, and he hasn't unlocked his first achievement for the intertubes search-engine badge? The dude needs training wheels on his mental roller skates.

"Where are you based?" Ummm.. The real world? Christianity? "Yeah, dude, I'm, like, totally based, man!" Lots of targets for your inner smart-ass. If they are not going to be honest and take the interview seriously, I agree that you should not, either. Or maybe you can charge per question/answer, with a rebate for each accurately represented quote of yours they have, make their cheap side war with their "smear-em" side.

I do like the interview in comments idea. "Sure, post the interview questions on this new ans shiny thread. We can crowd-source the answers!"

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 18, 2017 3:46 AM  

praetorian wrote:God this is all so pointless

Truer words have rarely been typed into a small text box on the internet.


Literally LOL

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 18, 2017 9:01 AM  

Shit level trolling here. I mean @Trumpety sounds like a middle-aged, diabetic divorcee giving it a go at this trolling lark with all her free time now that the kids have moved out to their father's place because of the smell of cat piss in her undersized apartment.

I demand better trolls at VP!

Blogger Nathan Wright January 18, 2017 11:31 AM  

VD wrote:Why refer them to Cernovich, given that he said explicitly he's not Alt Right (after previously saying he was)?

I don't answer loaded questions from the media, and I certainly don't answer them here.

Either grow up and learn to ask honest and straightforward questions or don't bother asking them at all.

Tells: "given" and "explicitly".

Do try to keep in mind that I am much smarter than you are.


"muh IQ". I don't think the "loaded" premises are disputable, are they? He's repeatedly denied being Alt Right.

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3ACernovich%20%22not%20alt-right%22&src=typd

And you send a journalist who's looking for Alt-Righters to him? Are there really no better choices? Peter Brimelow? Jared Taylor?

I'm just saying. I'm sure you have your reasons.

Blogger Nathan Wright January 18, 2017 12:10 PM  

If by "loaded" you meant my intention in asking the question, well yes, I did mean to criticize you. I'm a fan of yours, but not Cernovich, and Cernovich oozes seediness to me. I understand you're loyal to him, and I have no problem with that. My criticism is restricted to just that point -- why promote someone as an Alt-Right thought leader who himself disavows the label?

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros January 18, 2017 1:50 PM  

... Or Cernovich was being promoted as somebody who understands both the Alt-Right and reporters well enough to say something intelligent on the subject.

Blogger Serge_Tomiko January 18, 2017 5:10 PM  

Vox, if you have any sense of decency, you will disassociate yourself from Cernovich for his doxing of Mike Enoch. You have been at this for my entire adult life. He is a freak who has barely been on the scene and has caused enormous damage. Now, he wants to change the name of the very movement the fraud seized upon to promote himself.

Blogger somercet January 18, 2017 8:25 PM  

Hey, look at this:
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/699761058605469696

>I'm friendly with alt-right, but am not part of it, as there's stuff I don't agree with. But I'd rather fight SJWs than snip at alt-right.

Date says... Feb 2016.

The "Alt-Right" is apparently full of lying eunuchs trying to stir shit up.

Gas 'em.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 9:03 PM  

My criticism is restricted to just that point -- why promote someone as an Alt-Right thought leader who himself disavows the label?

I'm not. Who said anything about promotion or "Alt Right thought leaders"? Are you really THAT stupid? The question was "who else should I talk to about this article?" The reporter didn't even ask once about the Alt-Right.

Mike Cernovich is vastly more influential in Washington among the broad-spectrum alternative Right than anyone in the Alt-Right, including me.

"muh IQ".

My IQ being higher than yours is obviously relevant, given that you can't even read the fucking questions and are wondering why I didn't answer that weren't even asked the way you would have.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 9:14 PM  

Vox, if you have any sense of decency, you will disassociate yourself from Cernovich for his doxing of Mike Enoch. You have been at this for my entire adult life. He is a freak who has barely been on the scene and has caused enormous damage. Now, he wants to change the name of the very movement the fraud seized upon to promote himself.

No. I don't give a quantum of a damn about Enoch or any of the Swastika Panties. Also, Mike didn't doxx him. If he had, he would have done it on Twitter and bragged about it. Mike isn't exactly subtle.

Who gives a damn about them anyhow? I warned them to leave Mike and Milo alone, but they decided to "declare war" on Milo. Now they've suffered "enormous damage" without Mike and Milo even trying.

How about doing what I suggested from the start and learning from the people who actually know what they're doing? Instead of, you know, attacking them? Everyone in the Alt-Right should buy MAGA Mindset and read it, not bitch about Cernovich and shekels. They would be MUCH better off.

Blogger Carl Burgeson January 21, 2017 12:36 PM  

Will Everclear be the super heavyweight class?

Blogger Carl Burgeson January 21, 2017 12:37 PM  

Will Everclear be the super heavyweight class?

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