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Wednesday, January 18, 2017

The doomed presidency

(((Richard Cohen))) warns that the Trump presidency is doomed:
Whether he knows it or not, the specter of Lyndon Baines Johnson haunts Donald John Trump. There are some jarring similarities — two big, fleshy men given to vulgarities and gauche behavior, boastful, thin-skinned, politically amoral, vengeful, unforgiving and, most important, considered illegitimate presidents. For Johnson, that took some time to sink in; Trump is already there....

The president-elect will take the oath with a minority of the popular vote — a substantial deficit of almost 3 million votes. He enters the Oval Office with historically dismal poll numbers, lower now than right after he won the election. He has done nothing to woo the majority of Americans who rejected his candidacy and has, instead, adhered to his schoolyard habit of tweeting his every grievance, denigrating his every critic, making cameos with vaccine and global-warming doubters and, as if to show some versatility, rascals such as Don King and Kanye West. It is a “Gong Show” with no gong in sight.

Lyndon Johnson would no doubt warn Trump that he is already on thin ice and he will plunge through it the moment Congress takes the measure of his unpopularity. Johnson was a man of huge political abilities and experience, and his achievements in civil rights entitled him to greatness. Yet, when Vietnam went sour, so did the public, and it seemed, after a while, that his personal characteristics, scathingly caricatured by artists such as David Levine and Jules Feiffer, oozed out of him so that they obscured both him and his accomplishments. He was deemed capable of anything — of lying and perversion of all kinds. This is where Trump stands now.

By the end of the week, Trump will be the president. I wish him the best; I wish him the worst. The dilemma is how to separate loathing for him from love of country. I am leaving it to time to work that out. Meanwhile, Trump will have his moment, that’s for sure, but when things go wrong he will be chased from office — just like Johnson once was. The ancient Greeks knew why: A man’s character is his fate. In that case, Trump’s presidency is doomed.
My two-word rebuttal: Bill Clinton.

Now, LBJ was, in my opinion, the very worst president the USA has ever had, with the arguable exception of Lincoln. Say what you will of Wilson and FDR, (much less trivialities such as Carter, the Bushes, and Obama) but in both cases, the nation-state not only survived their administrations, but came out of them at least temporarily stronger than before, even though various seeds for long term problems had been planted. And LBJ managed to do his mortal damage to the nation in less than two full terms.

By signing the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 and instituting the Great Society, LBJ murdered the American nation-state, which no longer exists any more than the Chickesaw nation in northern Mississippi or the Cherokee nation in Georgia do. The USA is now a multinational, multicultural, multireligious state, with less stability and worse long-term prospects than the Austro-Hungarian empire in 1900.

We should hope and pray the Trump presidency is as significant as LBJ's doomed one, although, of course, in the opposite direction. MAGA! MAWA! MAAA!

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163 Comments:

Blogger A rebel without a General January 18, 2017 5:16 AM  

Johnson was definitely a terrible president though it all started with Lincoln who eroded state rights and concentrated power in the federal government.

Anonymous JAMES January 18, 2017 5:18 AM  

I tried reading this earlier today.

Couldn't finish it. The stench of bile filled whining was too great.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 18, 2017 5:18 AM  

That's a good omen. Richard Cohen has never been known to be right about anything at all.

Blogger Stilicho January 18, 2017 5:28 AM  

MAAA! I already have the T shirt. You can have the design for Dark Lord designs if you want.

Blogger Sillon Bono January 18, 2017 5:31 AM  

The bastard care so much for the country isn't?

There's no way Trump can be a worse president than Obama, which by definition sets the bar pretty low.

I have no expectations of Trump, I only want/wish that he kills PC that's all.

I want my rights to say that something is BS and that individuals are full of BS, I want to be able to call a spade a spade.

The rest if anything is a bonus.

Two that individual (((Richard Cohen))), two words: Two days!

Blogger Sillon Bono January 18, 2017 5:32 AM  

One more thing I hope he is retorting of mental agony.

Anonymous Nick January 18, 2017 5:35 AM  

I'd squeeze FDR in between Lincoln and Johnson. He let so many communists into the government who later spilled over into academia. They laid the groundwork for "civil rights", "immigration reform" and all the other leftist projects that tore apart the fabric of American society. Not to mention he was the best friend Stalin ever had, helping him swallow of half of Europe through billions of dollars in aid. The megalomaniac died in his fourth term as president!

Blogger Gapeseed January 18, 2017 5:48 AM  

Had JFK lived, he would have likely booted LBJ from his ticket (the two men could not stand each other) and not escalated the Vietnam War. That day in Dallas was the very worst day in American history.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 18, 2017 5:50 AM  

Concur on LBJ. Many of the disastrous mistakes blamed on FDR were Johnson's fault.

As to Trump, I put no credence in reports of his unpopularity. The Propaganda Press will twist polls like a pretzel. What I do see is unreasoning hate from the Left. Bet on an attempt to kill Trump in the first 100 days. Which will give trump the justification to crack down hard, if he's got the nerve.

Blogger Stilicho January 18, 2017 5:52 AM  

@Nick, that is the conventional wisdom re: FDR, but Vox made an excellent point. While we tend to think of LBJ as a failed politician due to his having to withdraw his bid for re-election, that also tends to cause us to ignore the massive policy failures of his tenure: half-assing around in Vietnam, immigration Act of 65, Great Society welfare state, etc. So much fail concentrated in. A short time and we are witnessing the effects of those failures still growing half a century later! At least time has ameliorated some of FDR's evil. LBJ's is still expanding.

OpenID troogs January 18, 2017 6:02 AM  

MAGA! MAWA! MAAA!

Great, White, American?

Blogger Shimshon January 18, 2017 6:05 AM  

They really do believe their own press releases...I mean rigged polls.

Anonymous Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:07 AM  

Truly Hitler was the greatest defender of Western Civilization. Only Robert E. Lee comes close to him in beauty and moral goodness.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 18, 2017 6:11 AM  

"...caricatured by artists such as David Levine and Jules Feiffer...".

Wow. (((Cartoonists))) drew bad things about him. I didn't know LBJ was that bad of a president. Once you've lost cartoonists, you've lost America.

Anonymous Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:14 AM  

It is hilarious that there are swaths of grown, adult men on this blog who thinks it's up to them to use special (((parentheses))) to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings, who are personally viewing all of their posts in Tel Aviv. You just have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Blogger Shimshon January 18, 2017 6:15 AM  

"...that almost any sort of behavior seems credible."

SJWAP. Cucks always project too. Credible to you, perhaps. Trump's supporters aren't buying any of it.

"Yet, when Vietnam went sour, so did the public..."

Even he is astute enough to understand it was Vietnam which did LBJ in. Is Trump going to start another war? Color me dubious.

Blogger Shimshon January 18, 2017 6:16 AM  

@15 (((I))) just want to be clear about things. No beating around the bush for (((me))).

Blogger Lazarus January 18, 2017 6:25 AM  

Epimandes wrote: to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings, who are personally viewing all of their posts in Tel Aviv.

You have to be an idiot or a liar to think that is the purpose of the exercise.

Anonymous The Washington (com)Post January 18, 2017 6:27 AM  

Suspected Russian agent and President elect Donald J Trump, may be the most hated President ever, say 98.7 percent of respondents, in a new pole from our expert panel of experts.

Anonymous Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:29 AM  

@18 You're right. Your real reason is to point out that the Jews control the world and it's up to use to kill them before they dilute our white genes through their nefarious mind control.

Look, if white people are so stupid that they can be tricked into engaging in white genocide by those Jews, then it's quite obvious that we are not the superior race. In fact, we're easier to hypnotize than a chicken.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 18, 2017 6:29 AM  

MSN is Doomed.

And Cohen has the gall to talk about character. Pfft.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 18, 2017 6:36 AM  

Hey guys, don't touch the Epimandes poop. He's too short to learn anything from this ride.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 6:46 AM  

It is hilarious that there are swaths of grown, adult men on this blog who thinks it's up to them to use special (((parentheses))) to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings, who are personally viewing all of their posts in Tel Aviv.

You know there are several long-time readers here from Tel Aviv, right? You know Castalia publishes Israeli authors, right?

Your real reason is to point out that the Jews control the world and it's up to use to kill them before they dilute our white genes through their nefarious mind control.

No, the real reason is to identify those who are trying to obscure their genuine allegiances and national interests.

Look, if white people are so stupid that they can be tricked into engaging in white genocide by those Jews, then it's quite obvious that we are not the superior race

No one said anything about superiority except you. And there is no we, kemosabe.

Anonymous Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:47 AM  

I'm sick of you right-wing extremists being so two-faced. Why don't you just say what's on your mind in clean, positivistic clauses: you think the Jews are trying to destroy the white race, so it is up to us to kill them to save ourselves?

Anonymous Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:50 AM  

@23 Why do you demand to be treated as an American when you betrayed your country by leaving her? You're no longer an American. You may not be an Italian but you sure as Hell aren't an American, anymore than Benedict Arnold is.

Blogger Wanderer January 18, 2017 6:58 AM  

Epimandes wrote:It is hilarious that there are swaths of grown, adult men on this blog who thinks it's up to them to use special (((parentheses))) to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings, who are personally viewing all of their posts in Tel Aviv. You just have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

The parentheses was meant to signal and identity a jew who's hiding behind a goy name. Nobody gives a fuck what the JIDF in Tel Aviv think. I'd wager most of them are probably promoting antisemitism online because it justifies their having a job and an Israeli ethnostate.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 7:01 AM  

Why don't you just say what's on your mind in clean, positivistic clauses: you think the Jews are trying to destroy the white race, so it is up to us to kill them to save ourselves?

First, there is no "us". Second, how would it be right to kill all Jews when only some are trying to destroy the European nations? One can't just say what one does not believe. You're attacking a figment of your imagination.

Why do you demand to be treated as an American when you betrayed your country by leaving her?

I don't. And I didn't betray anyone or anything.

Blogger Sillon Bono January 18, 2017 7:10 AM  

Epimandes wrote:It is hilarious that there are swaths of grown, adult men on this blog who thinks it's up to them to use special (((parentheses))) to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings, who are personally viewing all of their posts in Tel Aviv. You just have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Shhhhh!, be quiet the adults are talking, also when adults play name-calling what they are doing is making adult jokes.

Thought would be considerate explaining it to you.

Anonymous Philipp January 18, 2017 7:12 AM  

"The USA is now a multinational, multicultural, multireligious state, with less stability and worse long-term prospects than the Austro-Hungarian empire in 1900."

That is the most important sentence of the post. Vox is right. That LBJ signed the Hart-Celler Act of 1965 doomed the American nation. Neither Lincoln, Wilson or FDR, for all their faults and mistakes, managed to do that.

Blogger Michael Neal January 18, 2017 7:13 AM  

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Blogger FUCK GOOGLE January 18, 2017 7:15 AM  

@24
Idiot vs straw man, and I think the straw man is winning...

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 7:21 AM  

I am getting tired of the scapegoating of Jews for everything.

It's not scapegoating when a Jew is, in fact, responsible, and has been placed in that position because of Jewish nepotism. Why do you want to deny Jews human agency?

Jews are not responsible for all the evil in the world. Do you deny that they are responsible for any of it?

OpenID basementhomebrewer January 18, 2017 7:21 AM  

The flood of these types of articles show how truly scared they are. They know that Trump is going to deliver on his campaign pledges and do it at break neck speed. All the fake approval polls and articles trying to tear him down is their effort to try and get in front of the situation. They are desperately hoping they can create a narrative that will take root and flourish by the time he is up for re-lection. They are hoping that by starting early we won't believe our lying eyes when we see his successes.

Blogger Lazarus January 18, 2017 7:23 AM  

Michael Neal wrote:I am getting tired of the scapegoating of Jews for everything.

Straw men are like Whack-A-Mole. You knock one down and another pops up.

Blogger Michael Neal January 18, 2017 7:24 AM  

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Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 18, 2017 7:35 AM  

It's amazing how many commenters here are reflexively binary in their thinking.

The argument "Some Jews are manipulating the system and doing bad things to Americans" does not automatically boil down to "All Jews should be hated and killed. It is childish minds that attempt to construct such odd syllogisms.

Yes, I will grant that for a few people commenting here it may mean just that. Others are so obsessed with Jewish manipulation that they see it even where it isn't and it has become the hobby horse they will ride into the sunset. But 90% of us are not like that. We simply acknowledge truth where we find it.

An excellent solution would be for more Jews to invest their energies in Israel rather than in shaping America to their tastes.

Blogger Michael Neal January 18, 2017 7:37 AM  

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Blogger VD January 18, 2017 7:39 AM  

I just think attacking the jew is a lazy way to engage and it just makes people look like a Nazi LARPer honestly.

How is it a lazy way to engage those Jews who are looking forward to wiping out all the conservatives in the country? What would you recommend doing to defeat that kind of Jew, as well as any Jew who rises to his defense because Jew?

Blogger Epimandes January 18, 2017 7:42 AM  

Here is what Paul (a Jew and self-described Pharisee) has to say about the Jewish people.

"As far as the gospel [i.e. theology] is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarch." (Romans 11:28)

Anonymous Athor Pel January 18, 2017 7:44 AM  

In reading the warnings, (faux-prophecies), from people like Cohen here, or the one from Schumer how the CIA has many ways to hurt someone that doesn't do what they want, I get the distinct impression they aren't really warnings. They all come across as threats. And those threats create the image in my mind of a petulant child failing to get her way, readying herself to throw the biggest tantrum she is capable of.

There is no reasoning with a child, there is only discipline.

I did a search before writing this, using the term, 'warns trump'. The result was a long list of warnings. From China, Biden, McCain, Merkel, Elizabeth Warren, China again, Schumer, Office of Government Ethics, White House, Mahmoud Abbas, China again, Chinese tabloid Global Times, Iran, Panetta, CIA Director and on and on and on. Holy crap is the world having a hissy fit.

I've been reading Nehemiah. Sanballat, Tobiah and Geshem mocked and warned the returned exiles to stop rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. They did this repeatedly. In the end it was all wind. That's not to say they didn't give the returnees trouble but in the end they couldn't stop the work.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 7:45 AM  

"As far as the gospel [i.e. theology] is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarch."

Very well. If that is the metric, which of those statuses, enemy or loved, are more relevant to the secular state and public policy?

Blogger Beefy Levinson January 18, 2017 7:52 AM  

Not all Jews are perverted degenerates, but anywhere there is perverted degeneracy, a Jew is involved somewhere.

Blogger Michael Neal January 18, 2017 7:53 AM  

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Blogger Jack Ward January 18, 2017 7:56 AM  

I plan to watch my congress critter and two senators very, very closely. More than even before, which was close indeed. I already have issues with the congressman [Palmer] for not impeaching Obama, or trying to, for his not supporting the immigration and border laws, just to name one of many. His choice will be to support Trump for as long as Trump deserves it to the hilt. Otherwise, he loses my vote in the next primary and I campaign against him. Thank God for house elections every two years and recall petitions!
Two days, folks, two days. For God's sake and ours, stay alive Donald.

Anonymous Mark Auld January 18, 2017 7:56 AM  

Cohen merely proves the point to me that the Left will not make a graceful exit,and they have many neo cons and deep establishment types on their side.The first battle is won,but it's an uphill fight for the future.

Blogger Salt January 18, 2017 8:01 AM  

Gapeseed wrote:That day in Dallas was the very worst day in American history.

It was a coup d'etat, unseen by the masses.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 8:02 AM  

I would continue to point out the prejudice held by left wing Jews and their utter hypocrisy but keep it based more on ideology rather than race.

Stop cucking, cucky. Your approach has failed. The age of ideology is over. Identity politics are the order of the day, and Jews have their own rival identity.

I think a distinction should be made that its a particular group of ideological Jews not Jews in general.

No one - literally no one - cares what you think. Least of all Jews in general.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 8:03 AM  

Sigh. The comments lately have had more than their fair share of cucks and shills. Makes reading them tedious, and it's just embarrassing that they think that their banal statements are clever.

This Cohen is one of the ones complaining about not being hired by the Trump administration, right? Or is it a different Cohen there?

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 8:05 AM  

Michael Neal wrote:I think a distinction should be made that its a particular group of ideological Jews not Jews in general.
Sorry, man. The Jews will never like you "like that" and they probably think you're gay anyway. Stop sucking up and Next them already.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 18, 2017 8:06 AM  

I think trying to equate a real estate tycoon with an old-school machine-politician thug who was widely rumored to have had upwards of nine murders on his tally as governor is about as apples to oranges as it gets.

Blogger Doom January 18, 2017 8:06 AM  

Amen.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 18, 2017 8:13 AM  

Anyone with divided loyalty should be ignored during any discussion of politics. This automatically includes anyone who thinks in terms of a (blank)-American and Jews are at the top of that list.

Chickens shouldn't invite cats, raccoons, eagles, sloths, worms or mosquitoes to help decide policy pertaining to chickens.

For once it would be nice to see my fellow men grasp the principle of undivided loyalty.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 18, 2017 8:19 AM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:An excellent solution would be for more Jews to invest their energies in Israel rather than in shaping America to their tastes.

It would have extra excellence if they invested their energies in Israel from within Israel, rather than from within my country.

If you are going to live in my country, your nationality needs to be unhyphenated American, and your loyalties need to be undivided. Being an Israeli nationalist is laudable in an Israeli citizen, and treasonous in an American citizen.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE January 18, 2017 8:19 AM  

@43
Or we could not care about calling out the Jew(s) who attack us and not give a shit about any charges of "antisemitism". You win that game by not playing it - antisemitism is known in the rest of the world outside of the West as "common sense". Stop spending time adding caveats and explaining how you think everyone on your side should waste time assuring our enemies that we're totes not talking about identity.

We are.

Blogger allyn71 January 18, 2017 8:19 AM  

For once it would be nice to see my fellow men grasp the principle of undivided loyalty.

While I agree it would be nice, history says it is a very rare occurrence. Usually a small cadre around an exceptional reader. Probably to much to ask of the interwebz.

One can hope that the ongoing persecution of the God-Emperor elect will be the fire for the forge and create such loyalty around him in his pursuit of justice and MAGA.

Blogger Michael Neal January 18, 2017 8:19 AM  

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Blogger allyn71 January 18, 2017 8:21 AM  

@56 Good for you. We don't care.

Blogger Elocutioner January 18, 2017 8:23 AM  

"scathingly caricatured by artists"

Name the last President that wasn't.

"such as David Levine and Jules Feiffer"

It's funny how cucky, in his despair about naming the Jew, missed how the Jew author cited two leftwing born and bred NYC Jew artists (one the child of a Communist sympathizer) to warn Trump that he's done for if the artists turn on him. Like they already did 18 months ago.

Hopefully they continue to learn nothing for the next eight years.

Blogger Harsh January 18, 2017 8:23 AM  

Epimandes, the sides have already been drawn up regardless of how you feel about it or what you think of us. The question is are you going to be man enough to stand up for your side?

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 8:23 AM  

I don't care what any particular Jewish person thinks of me, I just think the way some people approaching it railing against the jew plays into their hands.

We don't care what you think about this or anything else. More pertinently, we know the way you would prefer everyone else to address it is a guarantee of failure. Now, stop cucking and leave the discussion to those who aren't afraid of reality.

No one asked for your opinion. So stop sharing it.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE January 18, 2017 8:29 AM  

@56 For the last time, stop playing their game. Bigot Olympics doesn't favor you - most Jews have mastered the "crying out in pain as he strikes you" game. Reject the frame itself. Bigotry makes sense if there is a good reason for it.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 18, 2017 8:31 AM  

Harsh wrote:Epimandes, the sides have already been drawn up regardless of how you feel about it or what you think of us. The question is are you going to be man enough to stand up for your side?

The prior question is: What is Epimandes side? I doubt it's ours.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2017 8:37 AM  

> You have to be an idiot or a liar to think that is the purpose of the exercise.

This is not an either/or situation. Of course he's probably just a paid troll.

> ...so it is up to us to kill them to save ourselves?

Us? Really? I know which side of that bet my money would go on.

> I am getting tired of the scapegoating of Jews for everything. It's the left that is the enemy and everyone that makes up the left.

So it would be OK if those same people instead were urging us to kill all the leftists? Or would that bother you too?

> I think by attacking people as jews only plays into their hands of being victims and they will use that to discredit and dismiss any critics of their views.

They'll do that anyway. How many times have the readers and posters on this blog been called Nazi's?

> I think a distinction should be made that its a particular group of ideological Jews not Jews in general.

"The American Jewish vote for President Barack Obama fell from 78 percent to 69 percent in 2012." A minimum of 69% is a rather large particular group.

So that makes three ways your wrong. Do you want to keep trying?

Blogger Joshua_D January 18, 2017 8:37 AM  

I always laugh when (((pundits))) claim Trump is thin-skinned just because he is hitting back. It's almost as if they expect to be able to lie about anyone with impunity.

Anonymous karsten January 18, 2017 8:41 AM  

Most deleterious President to the U.S.: LBJ by far.

Most deleterious to the world, for siding with the bad guys: FDR

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 8:42 AM  

Michael Neal wrote:I don't care what any particular Jewish person thinks of me, I just think the way some people approaching it railing against the jew plays into their hands. I prefer to point out how bigoted they are, and also defend my own cultural heritage and to be proud of it.
That's nice. Keep doing that. And then stop virtue signaling to us about how polite and precise you are.

Anonymous omar's running shoes January 18, 2017 8:42 AM  

I am a tradesman in a virtually all White part of the US. Over the years I have had numerous dealings with virtually every religious permutation you can think of- Presbyterians, Catholics, Baptists, Jews, Methodists, Seventh Day Adventists, Amish, Mennonites, Jehovah's Witnesses, LDS, etc. I have a very good reputation as a craftsman, charge fairly, am dependable, know other skilled and dependable tradesmen I recommend when I can't do the work, etc. Our family is well-regarded as genial and trustworthy and in all ways we have a very solid life.

Saying that how do I square the fact that I have never once had any interaction with a self-identified Jew that hasn't gone sour? Every single time I tell myself to treat each person as an individual, not to use past experience as future guarantee, to be fair and hope for the best and yet every single burn, every complaint, every post contract renegotiation, every delayed payment or failure to settle, every projected harm or insult where none existed falls squarely in that one camp, time after time after time. It may happen on occasion with a Protestant or an atheist, but there is no pattern. There are always some bad apples, but again in general my experiences with most people run to the 90%+ positive. With the Jews it is 100% negative no matter how it starts out. I wish I could tell you that I am the only one, that it must be something in my voice or my demeanor but no every other tradesman who I am acquainted with shares the same story.

How does one continue to un-notice the 2,000 pound Cohen in the room?

Blogger Epimandes January 18, 2017 8:50 AM  

@59 I don't get involved in political action, either from the extreme right or the extreme left. I will be safe.

"The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen." (2 Timothy 4:18)

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 8:52 AM  

Sigh. At least Porky and Tiny Tim offered some entertainment and amusement, at times. Epimandes (((hello fellow Bible-quoting white male conservative!))) routine doesn't rise to that level.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2017 9:09 AM  

> Epimandes (((hello fellow Bible-quoting white male conservative!)))

You think? :)

Blogger pyrrhus January 18, 2017 9:13 AM  

FDR did more structural damage than any other president so I'd make him the worst, but LBJ, Lincoln, and Wilson all deserve consideration....

Blogger Rusty Fife January 18, 2017 9:17 AM  

Deplorable Gaiseric wrote:Sigh. At least Porky and Tiny Tim offered some entertainment and amusement, at

Good thinking.

Epimandes wrote:@59 I don't get involved in political action, either from the extreme right or the extreme left. I will be safe.

Epimandes, please tell us about your KBAR collection or Glocks. I'd really like to hear about the last time you used one in ernest.

Blogger Rabbi B January 18, 2017 9:20 AM  

@68 Epimandes

Like the legs of the lame that hang limp is a proverb in the mouth of fools. (Proverbs 26)

Blogger pyrrhus January 18, 2017 9:25 AM  

@8 "Had JFK lived, he would have likely booted LBJ from his ticket (the two men could not stand each other) and not escalated the Vietnam War. That day in Dallas was the very worst day in American history."

LBJ was also implicated in the salad oil scandal, in which a Federal inspector was murdered. Pretty good motive for calling off the Texas Rangers perimeter patrol that morning....

Blogger seeingsights January 18, 2017 9:31 AM  

Richard Cohen's editorial shows what is wrong with about 90 percent of our pundit class. His piece conveys no useful information. He ought to well know that the game is to attain 270 electoral college votes, not the popular vote. If the election was decided by popular vote, Trump would have campaigned differently. Also, in an election with at least 140 million voters, the percentage difference between the two candidates was around 2 percent.
As to his claim that Trump will have a broken Presidency, that is something that can be put to the empirical test. The claim will likely be shown false. With tax cuts and coming cheap energy, the economy is going to do quite well. Trump by his statements also shows that he is not a war monger. Wars that don't go well have broken presidencies
(Lyndon Johnson and Bush II) .

Blogger pyrrhus January 18, 2017 9:33 AM  

Trump considers going full Warren G. Harding with massive cuts...http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-eyes-10-spending-cuts-20-slash-of-federal-workers/article/2612037

Blogger Epimandes January 18, 2017 9:38 AM  

@73 "Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him." (Proverbs 26:12)

Blogger Cail Corishev January 18, 2017 9:44 AM  

"[B]ig, fleshy men"? I love how the haters keep telling us more about themselves than they do about Trump.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 18, 2017 9:45 AM  

Is anyone familiar with the genetic history of the modern Jewish people? We know that the Talmudic Judaism, the Judaism of the last two millenia is not the same religion as that of the Ancient Israelites, but I've seen some speculation that suggests many modern Jews may not necessarily be their genetic descendents either. Maybe it was Lame Cherry who said that Central Asian Ashkenaz had infiltrated the gene pool through deliberate intermarriage soon after the Jews went into Diaspora and so it's become debatable to what extent modern Jews have the lineage to lay claim to the land of Ancient Israel. Has anyone else heard of this?

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 9:50 AM  

I've seen some speculation that suggests many modern Jews may not necessarily be their genetic descendents either.

The Khazar theory is mostly false, but modern Ashkenazi are actually around half-Hebrew, half-Italian on average, genetically speaking. Sephardics are more genetically Hebrew.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 18, 2017 9:53 AM  

Cohen's hatred for everyone outside the respectable (((beltway))), including respected leaders of the black community such as King and West, is truly shocking.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 9:57 AM  

Most deleterious to the world, for siding with the bad guys: FDR

Wilson was much worse in that regard.

I don't get involved in political action, either from the extreme right or the extreme left. I will be safe.

You showed up here with the express purpose of shooting off your mouth and telling others what to do. So, the chances you'll be safe in real life are negligible.

Blogger JDC January 18, 2017 9:57 AM  

Drudge's headline, "Party's Over" contains a photo I may print out and frame on my wall. The tears...the anger...the angst...the fear...it's going to be a good year.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 18, 2017 9:59 AM  

@68. “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” -James 4:17.

"Then the people of Israel cried out to the Lord, and the Lord raised up for them a deliverer, Ehud, the son of Gera, the Benjaminite, a left-handed man. The people of Israel sent tribute by him to Eglon the king of Moab. And Ehud made for himself a sword with two edges, a cubit[a] in length, and he bound it on his right thigh under his clothes. And he presented the tribute to Eglon king of Moab. Now Eglon was a very fat man. And when Ehud had finished presenting the tribute, he sent away the people who carried the tribute. But he himself turned back at the idols near Gilgal and said, “I have a secret message for you, O king.” And he commanded, “Silence.” And all his attendants went out from his presence. And Ehud came to him as he was sitting alone in his cool roof chamber. And Ehud said, “I have a message from God for you.” And he arose from his seat. And Ehud reached with his left hand, took the sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly. And the hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade, for he did not pull the sword out of his belly; and the dung came out." -Judges 3:15-22.

Hmmmn.

Hmmnn.

Hmmmn.

You're a limp-wristed self-righteous lying sack.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 18, 2017 10:01 AM  

@77. Wow so you can quote things applicable to yourself without noticing. Good job, or something.

Blogger Rabbi B January 18, 2017 10:08 AM  

@77 Epimandes

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 10:31 AM  

25. Epimandes January 18, 2017 6:50 AM
Why do you demand to be treated as an American when you betrayed your country by leaving her?



moving to another country is Treason? Fred Reed is going to be quite surprised.

for comparison, here's what a real Traitor looks like:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Jonathan_Pollard

Vox demands to be treated as an American? wha?

i've never seen him say those words. i'm not even sure how such a situation would arise. "treated as an American" in what way? what does that even mean?

Obama established the 'principle' that the POTUS could order the death of an American citizen anywhere on the planet, if the president designated that person a 'terrorist' first.

Vox demands the right to have Obama drone him to death?




38. VD January 18, 2017 7:39 AM
How is it a lazy way to engage those Jews who are looking forward to wiping out all the conservatives in the country?


it's a bit more serious than that.


all a ((( Harvard professor ))) wants for Christmas is a White Genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOyBO-ts20c



48. Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 8:03 AM
This Cohen is one of the ones complaining about not being hired by the Trump administration, right?



All Cohens Are Like That.



54. FUCK GOOGLE January 18, 2017 8:19 AM
Stop spending time adding caveats and explaining how you think everyone on your side should waste time assuring our enemies that we're totes not talking about identity.

We are.



too be fair, the Jews are. only some of us are playing the same game.



77. Epimandes January 18, 2017 9:38 AM
"Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes?



quoted at us by a poster who, of course, is NOT "wise is his own eyes".

*drums fingers on table*

Blogger Open Carry January 18, 2017 10:35 AM  

VD wrote:The age of ideology is over. Identity politics are the order of the day, and Jews have their own rival identity.

Googling around for Jewish intermarriage rate, one learns that, "Overall, the intermarriage rate is at 58 percent, up from 43 percent in 1990 and 17 percent in 1970. Among non-Orthodox Jews, the intermarriage rate is 71 percent."

It seems odd that a tribe with a serious "rival identity" would intermarry at the rate of 58%.

Anonymous To Mock a Killingbird January 18, 2017 10:38 AM  

More masturbation masquerading as political opining.

I'd love to see if Cohen dismissed Trump as a candidate, in the primary and the general election, I just won't go into the dumpster to find it.


@8.

The counterfactual could have just as easily been that the Camelot myth was exploded and JFK lost in 1964. Honestly, given that the Kennedy's are loathsome creatures of the left; I'll never get the nostalgia for them. They are repugnant, and the only good thing about them is the fact that if the political value of the name was some sort of traded financial instrument, it would be near worthless today-in large part because son Ted helped engineer the transformation of the electorate.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 10:41 AM  

82. VD January 18, 2017 9:57 AM
You showed up here with the express purpose of shooting off your mouth and telling others what to do. So, the chances you'll be safe in real life are negligible.


in this specific case, i actually agree with Epimandes.

i'm sure he's too chickenshit to engage in these sorts of discussions in real life.

whereas, i have almost fully Black pilled my engineer buddy. five years ago he was saying things like, "Someday in the future we'll all be the same tan color and there won't be any racism."

i've pointed out to him that as an engineer, he knows what a bell curve distribution is ... and the implication this has for a 120 iq voter.

and i've also pointed out that there are African nations whose average IQ is <70.

it's getting so bad, he's starting to read Constitutional Amendments for himself, as i have suggested he do on multiple occassions.

Blogger Edwin January 18, 2017 10:45 AM  

I'm guessing that Cohen guy also predicted Trump would lose the primary nomination...

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 18, 2017 10:50 AM  

It would have extra excellence if they invested their energies in Israel from within Israel, rather than from within my country.

What I meant. Thanks for putting it more clearly.

Blogger tz January 18, 2017 10:52 AM  

The ancient Greeks knew why: A man’s character is his fate. In that case, Trump’s presidency is doomed.

Trump's character is to fight for what he wants to accomplish and do so early and under budget.

He will be the most successful President because he doesn't care about the cocktail parties or the presstitutes.

He won because of his MAGA character, any boorishness is irrelevant.

Cuckservative Inc. - the never succeed GOP - is what is doomed.

Oh, and the WaPoll was fake, but Congress' unpopularity was over 90% last time I checked.

Blogger modsquad January 18, 2017 10:56 AM  

Woodrow Wilson wins the race for worst president by a long shot, having allowed the Federal Reserve Act to exist. People really don't understand the absolute horrors caused by having a privately owned central bank rule the roost. If there's no Federal Reserve, a guy like LBJ doesn't even make to office.

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 10:59 AM  

to prevent the all-seeing Jews from catching on to their writings Its to highlight jewish accomplishment

you think the Jews are trying to destroy the white race, so it is up to us to kill them to save ourselves?

Even worse send them to Israel were other jews will outjew them.

Epimandes (((hello fellow Bible-quoting white male conservative!)))You think? :)

I was worried he was another faggot that would try to take my gay card.

Trump considers going full Warren G. Harding with massive cuts

Obama is trying to fill federal positions before the 20th, like these $200,000 jobs translating mexicant http://www.vdare.com/letters/a-reader-notes-the-fdic-is-recruiting-spanish-speaking-i-e-hispanic-civil-servants

It seems odd that a tribe with a serious "rival identity" would intermarry at the rate of 58%.

Have you ever talked to a jewish woman? Its no wonder so many jews turn gay.

Blogger tz January 18, 2017 11:03 AM  

Pure cuckistry and virtue signalling.

Lewis is one of the last of the great civil rights-era heroes. He marched. He protested. He had his head cracked at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala. It was 1965 and the Alabama police nearly beat him to death. He is a man of immense courage and morality, so much greater than Trump in those respects.

Yes, Trump won in the electoral college, and that, alas, is all that matters. But on the larger point, Lewis is right. Trump conducted a dirty, dishonest campaign that sullied the very presidency he won. He questioned Barack Obama’s legitimacy, trafficked in racism and demagoguery, and seems to have had poll workers in far-off Moscow. Still, he’ll be the president.

But Trump ought to pay attention to Lewis and what he represents.


Another looney lefty. Trump derangement accelerates.

Lewis fought 50 years ago, and won a seat with the elite while Selma and his district look like some 3rd world country and the blacks have the worst "content of their character" and are sliding even lower.

Blogger Timmy3 January 18, 2017 11:07 AM  

"My two-word rebuttal: Bill Clinton."

Are you comparing or contrasting Trump to Bill? There are enough comparisons and contrasts to make me think Trump will do quite well as a President.

Blogger BassmanCO January 18, 2017 11:17 AM  

Just guessing here, but is Epimandes Greek for "raging douchebag"?

Blogger Bruce January 18, 2017 11:48 AM  

"MAGA! MAWA! MAAA!" and don't forget "WAAAAAGH!!!"

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 11:54 AM  

OT: Rodger Stone survives https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/trump-operative-roger-stone-survives-assassination-attempt/

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 18, 2017 12:13 PM  

Richard Cohen of the Jeff Bezos blog is an aging liberal who stopped learning years ago. He's wishing really, really hard for failure, just as he wished really, really hard for someone other than Trump to get the nomination.

It's Beltway masturbation, pretty much, and no doubt how a lot of the parasites in DC are feeling right now. The fact that the whole world looks different from 1964 means nothing to the nostalgic libtard. More tears for us to bathe in.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 18, 2017 12:15 PM  

@96. On that note, Obama is literally illegitimate by most standards. (That are actually filters and not pumps.)

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 12:21 PM  

Could (((they))) be more obvious? http://lawofficer.com/news/aclu-demands-that-body-cams-are-turned-off-during-inauguration-while-they-intend-to-record-police/

even funnier http://www.vocativ.com/390175/liberal-preppers-stock-up-on-guns-food/

"posts on the Liberal Prepper seem to veer close to parody. One debate thread last week centered around the merits of stocking up on recycled toilet paper rolls versus buying Angel Soft, a brand produced by Koch industries, a notorious climate change foe. And in another discussion, vegetarian and vegan members talked about the best meat- and dairy-free food supplies to have during a sustained crisis."

Blogger Dexter January 18, 2017 12:22 PM  

I am reading the new bio of Hitler by Volker Ullrich, and it is actually scaring me how much I agree with what H said about (((them))).

Blogger praetorian January 18, 2017 12:58 PM  

Look, if white people are so stupid that they can be tricked into engaging in white genocide by those Jews, then it's quite obvious that we are not the superior race. In fact, we're easier to hypnotize than a chicken.

How do you do, fellow white person?

And this is why high trust societies must be guarded against outsiders and must punish cheaters far out of proportion to their crime, fam.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 18, 2017 1:19 PM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:

An excellent solution would be for more Jews to invest their energies in Israel rather than in shaping America to their tastes.


That's an eminently reasonable position. Israel isn't going away, regardless of what Musloids may dream of at night between virgins 68 and 69 (they have more nukes than the French and UK okrugs combined. The free gibsmedats from the hapless US tax drones will come to an end one day, so why not take the plunge and pitch in to make it a fine Jewish ethno-state which any nationalist can point to as an example of how it can be done? Being an eminently reasonable position, it sadly has little appeal to folks like Cohen, who are increasingly shrill in their slimy imitation of French aristocrats ca.1788.

Anonymous Vin January 18, 2017 1:23 PM  

I was a painting contractor through most of the 90's with most work in the wealthy NYC 'burbs. Jews made up maybe 40% of my customers and I did not have a single problem/stress free encounter with them even though I always came referred from one of their Jewy friends. Many times they wouldn't even let us use their bathroom (never happened with non Jew).

Non Jew customers were nearly always either friendly & easy to please or simply let us do the work, paid on time and gave no grief.

Yet I've had several Jew girlfriends and platonic friendships and they were/are just fine.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 18, 2017 1:48 PM  

Vox: "MAGA! MAWA! MAAA!"

What, no MACA?

Blogger Dexter January 18, 2017 1:48 PM  

@45,

Cohen merely proves the point to me that the Left will not make a graceful exit

Insert Helicopter Meme here...

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 2:07 PM  

# 67 and 107, your comments pain me on some level, but here is my explanation of it.

Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated. its why a lot of folks will employ a Jewish lawyer, even though they do not like him or his style, they are more like pit-bulls than any other lawyer type. Of course not all Jewish folks are like that, but in business it is a matter of pride one might say, how good a deal can one get.

A second reason, but related to the above is the definition of success. Much of success for non-orthodox is related to financial success and along with that here is a certain propensity to show it. Of course making generalizations is dangerous, but I think from observation that in a lot of families financial success is related to righteousness, or something akin to this. From external observation, there are some sects of Christians who behave in a similar manner such as the "prosperity gospel" types, it is not only Jews who do this. In any case getting the most for you money is part of that ethos, even though at the same times there is a real measure of charity as well, which you might not see on a business dealing level.

107: If you married a Jewish women you would find the former "fine" relationship to be suddenly subject to a lot of renegotiation. I have seen a lot of bright gentiles who upon marrying their carefree secular Jewish girlfriend fins in 5 years she, once with child, suddenly reverts to being a devote member of the Hadassah, (just like her mother). They revert to type, they will become their mother, typically at the level of devotion. Such women are perpetual re-negotiators and the reason so many guys who are essentially atheist marry outside of the faith (of course that comment is a huge oversimplification).

Richard Cohen is and has been an embarrassment for decades, a one sided liberal hack who if he was not employed by the Washington compost would never have been syndicated. The 29% that voted for Trump do not hold him in high regard, at least in general.

Anonymous Discard January 18, 2017 2:14 PM  

58. Elocotioner: The last President that wasn't scathingly caricatured by artists was BHO. Excepting alt-right artists.

Anonymous Discard January 18, 2017 2:18 PM  

103. BBGKB: The liberal peppers will soon enough find that their new guns will keep rioting Dindus at bay. In a few years time they will be doing everything they can to scrub their political history and telling everyone, "I was racist before racism was cool".

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 2:23 PM  

@110: tl;dr Jews are not Americans in cultural outlook, and no matter how many generations they live here, they show no signs whatsoever of integration. Ergo, all the more reason to see them off to their own ethno-state, which already exists and is doing quite well on its own.

Once they're gone, it'll be a lot easier to start doing to same to the googles, wetbacks, "refugees" and H1-B abusers.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 18, 2017 2:32 PM  

@110 Sam the Man
Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated.

This makes sense for those whose genotype goes back to Middle Eastern traders, where each shipment of goods may have a different price tag due to shifting political winds, etc. It makes sense to a race of traders who can always move on to a different port city, to a different island.

But Sam, those of us whose genotype comes from west of the Hajnal line harken back to a different world. A world where giving your word to deliver part of the harvest means the difference between life and starvation. A world where giving your word to bring your sons, your tenants and their sons all bearing arms down to the field of battle means the difference between stopping a Viking raid or army of Huns, and perishing.

A land of people who had no where else to go, who would die or live where they stand, with brothers at their back. So there is no place in our ethos for renegotiation after a certain point: to us, it is betrayal. Treachery. Treason.

To get this at the emotional level: Go and view Return of the King, paying particular attention to the lighting of the beacons and what Rohan does in response.

"Remember your Vows!" has a powerful resonance to us, it speaks almost at the molecular level. It's where "death before dishonor" comes from, maybe. We are all human. But you and we are different in some very important ways.

Richard Cohen is and has been an embarrassment for decades, a one sided liberal hack who if he was not employed by the Washington compost would never have been syndicated.

As I said before, there is a man who stopped learning decades ago. He's become one of those guys who just phones it in. A self-caricature.

Blogger Danby January 18, 2017 2:38 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated.

This is why multiculturalism and diversity are inherently and overwhelmingly bad for social cohesion. To a White American, once a deal is struck, it is struck and the tiresome, enervating process of negotiation is over. There is no such thing as "renegotiation". That's the same as "not keeping your end of the bargain," also known as "cheating" "lying", and in extreme cases "extortion and theft".

You will note, White Americans consider these to be crimes. Jews evidently consider them a sort of semi-friendly competition.

Diversity + proximity = war.

Blogger kennymac January 18, 2017 2:43 PM  

Shorter version of Sam the Man's comment: a Jew' s word is shit.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 2:49 PM  

114,

Half my line is eastern German gentile, Silesian and East Prussian (though they may have been Sephardic who fled to the Hanseatic) so I get viscerally the Northern European honor thing as well. Your comments were interesting, a one of the primary differences I have noted is the strong pride of ownership the Northern European types take in weapons ownership and retain of prior generations weapons, which seems to be absent the Semite Jewish culture.

I was simply trying to explaining why to a businessmen who found Jewish customers to be a pain (even though they did give him referral work) how it appears from the other side. I believe the colloquial phrase is "jew him down". It does not mean they cheat, they just have a different way of doing business, which can seem extremely sharp to an outside.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 2:54 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:I believe the colloquial phrase is "jew him down". It does not mean they cheat, they just have a different way of doing business, which can seem extremely sharp to an outside.
In Western Civilization, that's called cheating.

Blogger Danby January 18, 2017 2:59 PM  

Deplorable Gaiseric wrote:In Western Civilization, that's called cheating.
And it wasn't so long ago that it would get your ass killed.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:00 PM  

115 and 116,

In the sprit of good hearted explanation, let me say you have it wrong. A re-negotiation requires both sides to engage. If one side does not, well there is no re-negotiation.

Part of the art is being willing to walk away, or at least threaten that. I suppose it would be fair to say that a well versed negotiator who is willing to use all tools at his disposal against a person who has a more forward/open mode of once a deal is made it is made and that is it, well I can see how that would be frustrating and piss someone off. Point taken and accepted.

In my experience a Jewish businessman who is successful, well, his word is his bond. The damage to his reputation would be far greater than any single deal is worth. By the same token he will be sure to try to make very deal to his advantage. There will of course the the dishonest businessman, but they are taken out in the first generation. The successful 2nd and 3rd generation business men, well they have a high measure of trust which they are not so short sighted as to break, when the get the worst part of a deal, they will simply forget about it and move on.

of course we are dealing with abstractions, so I am sure anyone can come up with an example that says otherwise.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 3:10 PM  

120. Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:00 PM
A re-negotiation requires both sides to engage. If one side does not, well there is no re-negotiation.
Part of the art is being willing to walk away, or at least threaten that.



here's the problem:
Jews engage in all sorts of abuse, threats and blackmail in order to try to intimidate the Goy into agreeing to renegotiate the deal.

and you say all we have to do is "walk away". this is a bald faced LIE.

once the work is done and we're trying to get paid or even in the middle of the contract, to be getting browbeaten by the other end of the ALREADY AGREED UPON contract does not constitute "renegotiation".

it constitutes an attempt to RENEGE upon what had already been promised.

Blogger kennymac January 18, 2017 3:13 PM  

If you and I agree to a deal, then you come back later trying to renegotiate better terms, what would you call that, "good business"? Most people would call that going back on your word.

Blogger Danby January 18, 2017 3:15 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:In the sprit of good hearted explanation, let me say you have it wrong. A re-negotiation requires both sides to engage. If one side does not, well there is no re-negotiation.

Part of the art is being willing to walk away, or at least threaten that. I suppose it would be fair to say that a well versed negotiator who is willing to use all tools at his disposal against a person who has a more forward/open mode of once a deal is made it is made and that is it, well I can see how that would be frustrating and piss someone off. Point taken and accepted.

No, we understood you perfectly. It's reneging on a deal so you can screw some more money out of the Goy.
"Well, now that you've gone in to hock to buy 50 million widgets to deliver to my factory, I've found I can't take delivery at the agreed on price. I can only pay 95% of what I agreed to. Agree to my terms or eat the loss."
And perhaps another Jewish businessman would have anticipated that move and built in safeguards to protect himself.
That's not how Whites do business, and it's not how we manage our lives.
It's despicable and mercenary and dishonest. It's a crime.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 3:17 PM  

And we see with Sam the Man part of the problem. I noticed this watching The Goldbergs too, which is a pretty funny show to someone who grew up in the 80s, but also... once you watch it for a while, you begin to realize how very, very Jewish it is. And, how it appears that the writers don't even know that, because it doesn't occur to them that there's a big divide between American and Jewish values, even in the same environment.

Blogger kennymac January 18, 2017 3:18 PM  

I don't think you realize just how bad what you wrote makes Jews look to us goys. Another example of why multiculturalism is an utter failure.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:22 PM  

118:

In my younger days I spent a lot of times at gunshows and and observed all of the techniques a good businessman uses to sell high and buy low, same as the individual coming in to such a venue with an item wants to sell high and buy low. I have been on both sides of the aisle

Now there is both a financial aspect to selling and buying, and just as important a psychological aspect. A good seller deals with both. That way not only do I get a high price for my ware, but I send the buyer away happy. Sometimes depending on the item, that means selling low and making it on volume, it all depends on the item and if it is irreplaceable or not. No single sale is the most important and a happy buyer is a future buyer, you make your money on repeat customers. Further the skillful vender uses these skills on everyone the same way. In my experience in these venues, both Jews and Armenians are excellent at both aspects of a sale and building a client base. There is no need for any apology on that front.

part of that is paying the lowest amount. There is an old saying "you make your money when you buy, not when you sell". it becomes force of habit to try and get the best price, which I very much doubt anyone holds to be a sin or disreputable.

Now as a seller of a service to such folks, I can see your point, but ultimately in a free economy everyone must be able to stand on their own two feet. If dealing with a client who makes fuss or attempts to change terms, well you simply have to stand firm and cover any added expense with a re-quote when the request/demand exceeds the terms of the original quote. They may grasp their chest and through up a cloud of hen-shit, but they will understand.

By the By, not only Jews are like this, I would add if you deal with Indians you will find they try every trick in the book, just not as competently as Jews and Armenians.

By the by The best run gunshop I ever went in was run by an Armenian who became rich running it. Always got great deals...yet somehow he got rich. There is such a thing as a win-win situation in business.

My main point is there is not reason to get upset about this, it is the way of the world and a good business man is very careful about his reputation, it is literally worth its weight in gold.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 3:23 PM  

Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated. its why a lot of folks will employ a Jewish lawyer, even though they do not like him or his style, they are more like pit-bulls than any other lawyer type. Of course not all Jewish folks are like that, but in business it is a matter of pride one might say, how good a deal can one get.

It's also why America has become a country where everyone lives in fear of a frivolous lawsuit and frivolous, onerous regulation. That's the Jewish mindset for you, imposed on a population that didn't think to say no, because it didn't occur to us that within "Judeo-Christian values" there would be so many overtly anti-Christian values.

It's also why Jews are the "perpetual victims." Because they wrote that narrative. From the unwritten narrative of the natives that always eventually get tired of them and their cultural values and finally throw them out, they are unruly, unwelcome guests who impose and exploit on the culture of hospitality that is one of the hallmarks of Western civilization until they become so unwelcome that they are asked rather tersely to leave.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 3:26 PM  

@126: Yes, yes, of course NAJALT. But it's inherent in their culture, so too many of them are to say that overall they've been any kind of net benefit to the societies in which they live their semi-segregated lives.

Blogger Elocutioner January 18, 2017 3:30 PM  

"yet every single burn, every complaint, every post contract renegotiation, every delayed payment or failure to settle, every projected harm or insult where none existed falls squarely in that one camp"

That's not 'renegotiating,' that's the miserable greed of a ungrateful parasite. And we're sick of it. Civilization is about more than shekels.

Blogger kennymac January 18, 2017 3:40 PM  

Sam just keeps digging and digging and digging.

Blogger VD January 18, 2017 3:44 PM  

It does not mean they cheat, they just have a different way of doing business, which can seem extremely sharp to an outside.

That is cheating, Sam. You don't seem to understand that they are not playing by the rules of the culture they - obviously falsely - claim to be their own.

They should go to Israel. They don't belong in the West.

When I learned to play soccer in Italy, I had to learn that it is okay to grab shirts and fall down when fouled even if there was no need. Because Italy is not America either.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:45 PM  

Well Just so it is clear: any attempt to use blackmail or holding a vendors payment up, or unilaterally reducing a price paid is being a bad businessman and is dishonest. I repudiate that, any action like that and condemn it. I cannot speak to other parts of the country but any fellow Jewish or not who does that is not to be honored.

But in my experience, that is not what we are talking about with a business re-negotiation. Here is an example (real one): I am having my house repainted. Being the American nationalist I am, (when not plotting the overthrowing of western civilization so my children will have no place nice to live...oh wait need to rethink that....) I specify to the bidders that they have to employ Americans and I will check. The final bidder comes back with a higher bid than I like but tells me all his workers have been with him for 15 years and I will have no problem at a glance telling they are US citizens. I try to negotiate a lower price and he gives me options, none of which I like, so I take his price.

After the primer and the first coat (1 of 2) the wife decides she does not like the shade...so I renegotiate the color for the second coat, which he charges me for the remix, but not more than his added cost which he shows me. I pay promptly and he did a smash up job, it is 6 or 7 years later and the paint is holding up great, as he did what he said he would wit the chipping/prep.

Will I use him again......yes. Was the job a pain in the ass to him, most likely when we went through the shade adjustment, but I am sure this was not the first time a wife had issues with settling on a color. Did I get the better of him...No. Did he get the better of me...no.

A deal may be difficult for both parties but still both parties come out ahead, that is the nature of commerce.

In all fairness some here seem to be looking for excuses to find fault with Jews. Which technically I am not...... so all I can say is if you are looking to me to prove something about Jews, you are seeing what lies in your own heart. An explanation of motive and worldview does not mean larcenous intent by the person attempting to explain the world view.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 18, 2017 3:46 PM  

An illustrative story.
Many years ago I cleaned carpets for a living. The company had a satisfaction guaranteed policy. So one customer in a very wealthy neighborhood, with a 4800 sqft house and a Ferrari in the driveway made us redo her carpets until we gave up. We literally cleaned her carpets 4 times, and she was still "unsatisfied". Finally, at 7:00 at night the foreman decided to stop wasting labor on her, she had found her dodge and she was never going to pay for the cleaning.

I'll give you one guess on her ethnicity.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 3:47 PM  

once again, the movie 'Patterns' is an excellent dissection of Jewish business psychopathy, written by a Jew ( Rod Serling ), filmed by Jews in Jewish Hollywood, starring a Jew ( Everett Sloane ) as the ubermensch CEO and two Goys ( Van Heflin and Ed Begley ) as the two VPs who are emotionally abused, manipulated and groomed into doing what the psychopath Jew wants, the way the psychopath Jew wants it.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Patterns_%28film%29

the major plot of the movie revolves around how Everett is, very passive aggressively ( although occasionally through direct confrontation ) trying to drive Begley's character ( who has decades of good and faithful service to the company ) out of the company.

he drives widower Begley to drink, to a heart attack and, eventually, to death. leaving Begley's 17 year old son an orphan.

which, you know, MAYBE could be understandable if Begley had been a shit employee or had been cheating the company. the movie makes it clear that *this is not so*.

a good BUSINESS course of action would have been to sit Begley down in a private meeting, tell him that you think life has been getting too him recently, thank him for his work and ask him if he would consider a sabbatical or retirement.

that's not the Jewish answer.

the Jewish answer is to whip the Goy beast of burden until he dies in the traces.

you don't like me saying that? take it up with the psychopath Jews in Hollywood; it's their message.

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 18, 2017 3:50 PM  

@132: Nobody's looking to you to do anything. You took "defend the Jews against accusations of having cultural values different than that of Western Civilization" on yourself.

And if you're not a Jew, as you claim, then why do you care if people say that they've had bad dealings with Jews many times in the past? Why do you assume that anyone believes YOU to have larcenous intent? Why are you so eager to cast yourself as a victim for reasons that probably make sense to a Jewish worldview, but which are mysterious to us?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 18, 2017 3:50 PM  

@Sam,
Which story has little to nothing to what you were talking about before. Look, we've all seen it. It's never "how much to change the color?" It's always "Thats not the color I agreed to, so I'm not paying."

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:55 PM  

VD,

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. I work in corporate America and renegotiation is the norm. Constantly. It boggles my mind.

If you think Jews are sharp traders, well you should work with Chinese and Indians. The Chinese would give anyone a run for their money, the Indians do not know what a contract is once it does not serve their purposes.

Again I repudiate cheating, substitution, using terms of payment, etc as a tool to strong arm a vendor, which I think I share with most reputable Jewish business men. seeking the best deal possible is not synonymous with disreputable business practices

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 4:06 PM  

137. Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:55 PM
seeking the best deal possible is not synonymous with disreputable business practices




you know what happened to the old McCrory's drug store chain ( at one time the 4th largest retailer in the USA )?

Jewish "best business practices".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshulam_Riklis
"One of the many shells and holding companies he bought in the process of building the empire was E-II Holdings, in which the other investors later discovered he had placed the names of impressive companies, but not the assets. Among the investors in E-II was Carl Icahn. These investors revolted on Riklis and started seizing other properties in the financial empire.[6][7]

Many of the corporations declared bankruptcy, again carefully maneuvered by Riklis to preserve his personal wealth. He famously sold his stake in the Carnival Cruise Line to Ted Arison for US$1 (while the company was $5 million in debt)
."

every. damn. time.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 18, 2017 4:13 PM  

135,

well I played a slight of hand, I have been told to my face I am not a Jew and given my wife and kids I suspect no one whose word counts on such matters would accept me as one. But being mixed, I can see both world views and hoped that explain how it appears on the other side would perhaps help understanding. Never played the victim card here nor do I think of myself as a victim. Just mentioned how it appears from the other side to the best of my limited 50 years of experiences, which given other folks stories does not seem to match theirs. So be it I will not beat a dead horse.

My comment was relevant as folks here were projecting their own view onto me implying I was the very embodiment of the vile Jew (in their minds eye). Now I am a lot closer to being culturally a Northern European Christianity than a sematic Jew of Mediterranean culture. But as what I have said seems to not be helping, I will not burden folks further on this, as my comments seem to have diverted this thread from the anti-Trumpers foolishness. No insult taken or intended to anyone.

Blogger Joshua_D January 18, 2017 4:16 PM  

Sam the Man, you wrote a lot of words about something no one was talking about.

Anonymous Discard January 18, 2017 4:19 PM  

137. Sam the Man: We don't want Chinese or Indians either. Look, we know that most of the world does not operate by our rules. All we ask is that, if you're living in our country, you go by our rules. And deciding, after the job is done to specification, that you don't want to pay what you agreed to pay, goes against our rules. Many of us have that exact experience. If it happens with a White, we regard him as an irremediable asshole and refuse to do business with him. Generally, the White asshole knows what he's done and figures he'll have to peddle his shit elsewhere. But Jews appear to think that cheating is just part of the game, because for them, it is. And their ancient Goy-hatred makes it even easier for them.
No thanks.

Blogger tz January 18, 2017 4:42 PM  

@110 That is why there is no Judaeo Christian.

The Torah/OT says not to lie, cheat, or steal, but somehow the Talmud, or secularization allows it. We'll see if you are more successful than Dives in renegotiating it when you are in Hell.

We'll also see if Trump continues to support Israel if the deal goes bad.

Jews can live under Christendom rules in Christendom. Or they can leave. They don't seem to like the last alternative.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 18, 2017 4:43 PM  

Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated.

That explains a heck of a lot, and your further explanations illustrate well how differently the two groups see the matter. The more you explain and give examples of how Jews view negotation as an open-ended process, the more obviously incompatible it is with the Western idea that a handshake seals the deal and any attempt to change the terms after that is despicable. We don't speak the same language on this.

Thank you -- and I'm not being facetious. That was very helpful.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 18, 2017 4:45 PM  

Friday first day of the Occupation by TOG Trumpist Occupied Government

Anonymous Mike January 18, 2017 4:49 PM  

"Now, LBJ was, in my opinion, the very worst president the USA has ever had, with the arguable exception of Lincoln."

Preach it, brother!

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 5:48 PM  

Jewish people make an art of negotiating and unlike gentiles who once a deal is done, its done, the deal can always be renegotiated

I call BS on this, if you ever hear someone tell you that you don't need to look over a contract overnight or have it reviewed by a lawyer because its a """standard contract""" you are talking to a jew.

The Chinese would give anyone a run for their money

THe reason that Japan tests random samples from every shipment is they might end up with counterfit US foods with lead in it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/01/12/why-amazon-is-losing-its-battle-against-chinese-counterfeiters/#1ecd0f5c44e8

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 18, 2017 6:14 PM  

137. Sam the Man January 18, 2017 3:55 PM
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. I work in corporate America and renegotiation is the norm. Constantly. It boggles my mind.



here's the other thing:
this constant renegotiation is nothing but Make Work for middle management.

there's not a goddamn thing PRODUCTIVE about it. you wanted to make more money on the product? you should have negotiated a higher price on the front end of the deal. you think you're paying your vendor too much? you need to negotiate a lower price when the contract term is up for renewal.


constant renegotiation IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTRACT is bullshit and accomplishes nothing except hundreds of hours of billable White Collar hours over the course of a year.

Anonymous BBGayKoranBurner January 18, 2017 6:22 PM  

BBGKB: The liberal peppers will soon enough find that their new guns will keep rioting Dindus at bay... "I was racist before racism was cool"

No I don't think they will be real preppers or even get much practice with the gun they buy. Many of them would rather their wives be raped than they shoot a didndu. They won't realize the SHTF until too late & they are expecting to protect blacks from Nazi skinheads coming into cities.

Shorter version of Sam the Man's comment: a Jew' s word is shit.

But jews tell non jews that shit is gold and gold is shit when it comes to investment advice.

SAM European types take in weapons ownership and retain of prior generations weapons, which seems to be absent the Semite Jewish culture

What about circumcision knives? That's the one blade jews are willing to wield to draw blood, instead of indirect actions like "insert poison well story"

No single sale is the most important and a happy buyer is a future buyer, you make your money on repeat customers

This is probably why the worse jews sell things around military bases with significant turnover.

Sam just keeps digging and digging and digging I at least attempt to be honest about the problems of my "community'

That is why there is no Judaeo Christian Tiny Tim had a black belt in Judo-Christian

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 18, 2017 6:31 PM  

Typical establishment shit. LBJ was a mass murdering thug but Hofjuden-boy's problem with him is that he wasn't polite.

Fuck off.

Anonymous Jack January 18, 2017 6:41 PM  

The real comparison is Trump and JFK. Wealthy, pussy-grabbing playboy becomes President, avoids war with Russia, feuds with CIA ...

After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy said "I'd like to smash the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the wind." I'd bet Trump has had similar thoughts of late. I just hope he has better security than Kennedy did.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 18, 2017 7:19 PM  

OT, but how weird is it when Tucker fucking Calson is the voice of journalistic integrity? This video is a hoot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhs4CCwjvoI

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 7:35 PM  

Where is Kratman with his near army base scam stories? I am trying hard to resist telling my personally aware jewish scam stories since I am afraid I would do the whiney faggot stereotype as hard as Sam demonstrated jewish ones.

Anonymous Man of the Atom January 18, 2017 8:21 PM  

Richard Cohen, Bitter Clinger.

Blogger Thucydides January 18, 2017 8:42 PM  

Doomed my ass.

Using metrics like "the popular vote" indicates this clown has no idea what he is talking about. Maybe he can also tell us how many home runs Peyton Manning hit to win Super Bowl 50?

The metrics which count for voters, and the metrics which President Trump will be measured by are considerably different, something which pundits and the political class still seem to have no clues about. This should be interesting as 25 Democrat Senators considered "vulnerable in 2018, but the 8 Republicans also considered "vulnerable" should maybe stop and consider "why" they are vulnerable.

Indeed, the New American Party of Donald Trump c=should consider continuing the work of the TEA Party movement and "Primary" old line politicians (of both parties) and place their own people for election instead.

We are looking at a historic moment similar to the collapse of the Whig party and the replacement by the Republicans, when the Whigs no longer had the answers to the pressing questions of the day caused by changes in demographics, industrialization of the north, the opening of the frontier and admission of territories into the Union. Traditional Republicans had no answers to todays questions, and truthfully, I expect the Democrats to implode as well, with at least on main line socialist party and a number of satellite "identity" parties as well.

The future is far different than what these people are projecting.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 18, 2017 9:44 PM  

Peyton Manning hit to win Super Bowl 50?

Hey, I just heard Peyton has 1817 professional protesters on retainer, and he's going to protst the inauguration, or maybe they'll protest the protesters at the inauguration, it wasn't really clear, until the Roswell Report from 1947 is released to Julian Assange.

Anonymous BBGKB January 18, 2017 10:05 PM  

154. Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat

I watched that ADV china video and their WHITE MONKEY job video. It's insane that you could get a job as a gynecologist in china without being a gynecologist just for being white.

OpenID aew51183 January 18, 2017 11:05 PM  

The last legitimate approval poll I saw was rasmussen's that put Trump's approval rating at 51% shortly after the election. There's no way it's gone down considering the very public flight of clinton foundation donors, transparently racist democratic terrorism/hate crimes, and Trump's public line-up of some 1.1 million jobs and counting.

Finally, there are the moderates fleeing the party in droves and very publicly.

This doesn't happen when an organization is beating its rivals.

Blogger Ted Porters January 18, 2017 11:38 PM  

Chickisaws have a nice casino in southern Mississippi

Blogger Nathan Braun January 19, 2017 1:14 AM  

They aren't scared that Trump will fail

They are scared he will succeed

Blogger Deplorable Gaiseric January 19, 2017 8:31 AM  

Thucydides wrote:We are looking at a historic moment similar to the collapse of the Whig party and the replacement by the Republicans, when the Whigs no longer had the answers to the pressing questions of the day caused by changes in demographics, industrialization of the north, the opening of the frontier and admission of territories into the Union. Traditional Republicans had no answers to todays questions, and truthfully, I expect the Democrats to implode as well, with at least on main line socialist party and a number of satellite "identity" parties as well.
I certainly hope not. The Whig Party may have disappeared, but almost immediately the newborn Republican party doubled down on Whig philosophy and approach, going so far as to go to war to conquer their enemies in freedom-loving parts of the country to impose their values. Which are now completely mainstreamed in American politics. Hardly anyone can envision a government that isn't gigantic, intrusive, and interventionist. Hamilton and his disciples in the Whig party won that war a hundred and fifty years ago. They didn't lose it or go away. All they did was change their name.

Anonymous Disgruntled Media Buyer January 19, 2017 12:47 PM  

bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) wrote:
constant renegotiation IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTRACT is bullshit and accomplishes nothing except hundreds of hours of billable White Collar hours over the course of a year.


This reminds me of the time I worked with a Chinese client. Horrendous for a lot of reasons. But one of the big ones was their lack of an external auditor. We were a marketing agency, and normal practice is to be audited by a third party, to show we're really delivering what we said we were.

Now, they preferred to have endless stages of internal examination and review before paying us instead. This meant we could go more than 12 months with many millions of dollars unpaid while we waited for their procurement department to approve payment. And they would find a million different reasons to delay payment because something wasn't filled in correctly, or they'd ask the data to be broken down in this way or that way, which would require many more hours work (unbilled hours - we were on retainer).

Same thing would happen throughout campaigns and during reporting. Exactly what someone said above, about the woman who didn't like how her carpets were cleaned. They would ask for strategy documents and media plans to be redone a dozen times, with us adjusting to the new requests, only for them to claim it wasn't quite what they wanted. All still under retainer fee.

I will never work with a Chinese client again and, if Merchants are the same in their dealings, I can understand the distaste you guys have towards them.

Blogger DonReynolds January 19, 2017 5:31 PM  

Richard Cohen is really silly.
First....Trump received the popular vote, if we only consider the votes of US citizens. Mexican votes do not count, not even in California.
Second....not having a majority of the popular vote is by no means a disability, nor does it suggest that the president will have lesser powers or use them less aggressively.
John Quincy Adams in 1824, was elected with 30.92 percent of the popular vote. Abraham Lincoln in 1860 won with 39.65 percent. Wilson in 1912 won with 41.84 percent. Truman in 1948 with 49.55 percent. JFK won in 1960 with 49.72 percent. Nixon won in 1968 with 43.42 percent. Clinton never won a majority vote...1992 with 43.01 and 1996 with 49.23. Bush won in 2000 with 47.87 percent.
Suddenly, Trump's election does not seem particularly low or unusual.

Blogger Happy LP9 January 19, 2017 7:15 PM  

The Great Triggering - Women marching tomm or whenever the manic panic pixie freaks march shunned pro life women b/c women against Trump is BULLFEATHERS.

Elated for Trump, a beautiful family, may they reign in a new styled dynasty for 50 years!

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