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Thursday, January 12, 2017

The Los Angeles Chargers

The San Diego Chargers are moving back to LA:
“After much deliberation, I have made the decision to relocate the Chargers to Los Angeles, beginning with the 2017 NFL season. San Diego has been our home for 56 years.  It will always be part of our identity, and my family and I have nothing but gratitude and appreciation for the support and passion our fans have shared with us over the years. But today, we turn the page and begin an exciting new era as the Los Angeles Chargers.
I won't be surprised if both the Chargers and the Rams leave LA within a decade. The NFL clearly doesn't understand that its core demographic base is middle-aged white family men, and that the changing US demographics are not working in its favor.

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64 Comments:

Anonymous WaterBoy January 12, 2017 11:57 AM  

Didn't all those previous LA teams leave because of the financial disincentives? What's changed since then?

LA Rams, LA Chargers, LV Raiders...all these new city/team associations to remember. I just finally stopped calling them the Baltimore Colts.

And in other NFL-related news, a new developmental league for yutes who can't/don't want to hack the college route.

Anonymous BBGKB January 12, 2017 12:00 PM  

While I am glad for the demise of the NFL, is it not possible that they would make enough money from people watching on TV/cable that it doesn't matter if they have to fill the stadium with paid home depot wetbacks to make it appear attended? If you don't want to spend enough to be a contender it would be even easier.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 12:04 PM  

Terrible decision. As a native Los Angeleno I can assure you that nobody in L.A. roots for or has any interest in the Chargers. Hell, the Clippers moved from S.D. decades ago and it was only recently that they began to get some core fans as a new generation who grew up with them in L.A. came of age.

Something has to be done to stop the moving around. It's just killing sports.

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 12, 2017 12:06 PM  

St. Louis will get the Chargers.
Las Vegas will keep the Raiders as a tourist team.
The Rams, Lions, 49ers and Baltimore will be bought out.
College Football will return to the pro-set because of the 8-team title tournament. The spread will be popular with minor teams, like the old veer.

QB play will improve due to NFL contraction to 28 teams of 60 players in 4 divisions per conference. Season will revert to 14 regular season games, with a champ playoff and a "wild card bowl" tourney played concurrently during the "thin" weekends of regular conf championships and the Super Bowl bye. with a wc conso championship game played every year in London.

Okay, okay. That's my prediction if Roger Goodell recovers his sanity.

Blogger Ken Prescott January 12, 2017 12:07 PM  

San Diego native here.

Things began coming apart with the ticket guarantee and the Padres getting a separate ball park. The Murph made economic sense when it was actively used from March to December between baseball, football, concerts, and Billy Graham type events, and it was built on land bought in the 1960s.

Fifty years later, the only tenants would be the Chargers and the Aztecs, and the dirt it stands on is really, really pricey dirt.

Blogger James Dixon January 12, 2017 12:09 PM  

> I won't be surprised if both the Chargers and the Rams leave LA within a decade.

No team has been able to make it in the LA market proper. Of all he ones who have tried, only the Raiders had any real success.

> And in other NFL-related news, a new developmental league

If it works, this would actually be a good thing. Though with only four teams, I can't see them playing much of a schedule. Each team home and away twice for 12 games, or would they just settle for a 6 game schedule?

Anonymous NateM January 12, 2017 12:10 PM  

"middle aged white family men"

So basically the Raiders left LA 20 years ago because their key demo there was shrinking to the point it wasn't viable, now all the sudden it's MORE viable than San Diego. Now something tells me LA's Demographics haven't changed to be more viable than in 1994, so what does that tell you about the demographics shift in San Diego. Of course, if you figure it out, you're guilty of the racism of noticing.

@4 I lived in florida and Miami is the same way with basically all sports. People just don't care. The Heat were playing to a lot of empty seats even during the season they won the Championship, at least until the playoffs came around and the bandwagon jumping started. I tend to see Angelenos as the same way, too cool/detached to really be ardent sports fans. Or like Miami, too coked up.

Blogger Salt January 12, 2017 12:13 PM  

BBGKB wrote:While I am glad for the demise of the NFL

Stadiums are now named after Corporations. Soon there will be a new national sport -

Rollerball.

Anonymous Quicksilver75 January 12, 2017 12:18 PM  

Hopefully the Raiders relocate to LA in 2018. Then we can try to get both the Jaguars & Browns to also move to LA.
Truly, LA needs to have at least 5 teams. One could be named the "flying Burritos", and another "the Crony Capitalists". Perhaps a 3rd could have a ghetto inspired name like the "BLM Gangstas"

Blogger Latigo3 January 12, 2017 12:18 PM  

Entire generations of people have grown up in Los Angeles that don't care about the San Diego Chargers. The last time I was excited about the Chargers was when Air Coryell was at it's peak with Dan Fouts and Kellen Winslow. Just like the Rams, they have suffered from bad ownership

Anonymous Sam the Man January 12, 2017 12:20 PM  

I am not sure but I think video games have something to do with it. The young chaps are not into sports like the old guys because:
1) they did not play them as much when young
2) They can play very interesting video games that allow them to unwind without watching a game like was the case in the 1970s
3) the number of ads make the games less watchable
4) the political preaching turns guys off.

Changing the city location is just rearranging the chairs. The NFL has to look at the long term and one way would be to tail back the percentage of air time devoted to ads, which would limit the TV contract value, but it is needed.

Not a big Football fan, but I weakly followed the chargers, as much for the charger girls as the game. Very scantily clad outfits. Cute graceful women in mini-mini skirts, what is not to like?

Anonymous NateM January 12, 2017 12:21 PM  

@9 "Truly, LA needs to have at least 5 teams."

I honestly thought this retarded coastal "the world revolves around LA" attitude was going away, but apparently I was wrong. You're right, Quick, they're going to keep pushing their luck until all or most of their teams fail so spectacularly that no one wants to risk the investment in another team there for a while.

Blogger praetorian January 12, 2017 12:25 PM  

Good.

Worse is better.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 12, 2017 12:29 PM  

VFM #6306: "The ...Lions...will be bought out."

Never gonna happen, no matter what Goodell does with his sanity. Too much history in the league.

If an 0-16 season isn't gonna kill it, nothing will.

Blogger Ryan January 12, 2017 12:29 PM  

SC football will always reign supreme in LA

Anonymous patrick kelly January 12, 2017 12:30 PM  

If Da'Raiderz have to leave Oakland I'd like them to move south of the border and be called the Tijuana Vatos. Don't even have to change the uniforms, and the new mascot could look like one of those day-of-the-dead black,silver,and white mask thingies.

Blogger eharmonica January 12, 2017 12:30 PM  

The Raiders came to LA for the promise of luxury box seats, something the Oakland Coliseum promised and never delivered. The team keeps revenue from luxury boxes -- thus their importance. After the LA Coliseum Commission -- which is a gigantic clustereff of a group -- didn't come through, the Raiders returned to Oakland because they were promised -- guess what? -- luxury boxes. The LACC has now been sidelined and USC maintains the "Mausoleum" and luxury boxes are part of a projected remodel. However, if LA lands the 2024 Olympics those plans would change. The IOC decision date and the remodel start date line up perfectly.

The Rams left LA for Anaheim because the Coli at that point had 100k seats and Roselle instituted a black out rule. Sellouts were almost impossible. They left Anaheim because Georgia Frontiere was a nut. We had something like 6 straight different starting day QBs. Which team did Joe Namath last start a game for? Yep. We had Dieter Brock from the CFL and Bert Jones FFS. And Frontiere was notoriously cheap. Fred Dryer left to do a TV show.

I want my Raiders back.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 12:30 PM  

@7 - NateM

Los Angeles has excellent sports fans, with the Dodgers, Lakers and the Kings all doing quite well over the years. It's different than a lot of other cities in sports because we have a lot of people here from other parts of the country so if you, for example, go to a Dodgers-Cubs games there will be a substantial number of Cubs fans there, but that doesn't mean Dodger fans are bad fans.

The problem is the term "Los Angeles" is used to widely by the sports leagues. The Angels, despite their current ridiculous name, do not play in L.A. nor do they have many L.A. fans. The Rams did at one time play in L.A. but for decades were also in Orange County.

And the Clippers, well. They're from San Diego and they suck.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 12, 2017 12:31 PM  

I am betting the Raiders situation was part of the calculation. The raiders had a good number of their fans making a 10 hour round trip commute on home game weekends.

I am betting San Diego is banking on keeping more of their fans in San Diego due to the shorter commute and thinking they will pick up LA fans.

I dont think San Diego has the same fan loyalty that Oakland did and I am dubious about them picking up enough fans in LA up make up the difference. But time wil tell.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 12:33 PM  

Ha ha, Deiter Brock. I had totally blacked that out from memory.

And, yeah, Frontiere was a nut (and probably a killer).

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 12:36 PM  

"I am betting San Diego is banking on keeping more of their fans in San Diego due to the shorter commute"

This is insane. It's difficult to explain to people not from Southern California because the cities look so close on a map but there is ZERO interaction between Los Angeles and San Diego. No one in either city gives a remote fuck about the other, let alone their teams. If this is the plan, it's a crazy one. Ain't no way no S.D. folks are going to "commute" to L.A. to watch the "Los Angeles Chargers" and no one is L.A. is going to root for them either.

Blogger eharmonica January 12, 2017 12:42 PM  

@21 Yep. San Diego lost a team to a city that doesn't even want it.

Anonymous Bob Just January 12, 2017 12:47 PM  

VD said

"The NFL clearly doesn't understand its core demographic"

Imagine if they did?

A Leo Moracchioli SuperBowl Half-Time show- Feel Good Inc. in bunny costume!

Blogger dc.sunsets January 12, 2017 12:49 PM  

@8 Rollerball? Eh, we already have MMA.

I'm waiting for Running Man.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 12, 2017 12:51 PM  

James Dixon @6: "If it works, this would actually be a good thing. Though with only four teams, I can't see them playing much of a schedule. Each team home and away twice for 12 games, or would they just settle for a 6 game schedule?"

Original story states there will be eight games, though it doesn't say how that would work. Maybe home/away each team and two playoff games utilizing all four teams?

Will be curious to see just how many UFAs actually make it onto an NFL roster, though...given how many college players never make it in.

Anonymous Bob Just January 12, 2017 12:51 PM  

@Ryan

Had to do a re-read

SC football will always reign supreme over LA

thought to self- Ryan made a typo - he meant

SC football will always reign supreme over AL

then - another thought to self - the other SC you ninny-

Anonymous Bob Just January 12, 2017 12:54 PM  

@Dc.sunsets

This might be close - "Hunger Games" Siberian Style

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2404086/russian-reality-tv-show/

Anonymous Will January 12, 2017 12:56 PM  

@21 gets it

LA, San Diego and Orange Co are three distinct markets

If Spanos thinks anyone is going to drive from San Diego - or even Orange Co - to their home games in LA he's smoking something

Anonymous 0ddr0b January 12, 2017 1:01 PM  

There are roughly 5 million white men in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area. Demographics aren't the issue. The problem is the poor management driving fans away.

Anonymous veryfunnyminion January 12, 2017 1:01 PM  

o/t but SDL it looks like the Hungarians have been reading their van Crevald:

Former Hungarian intelligence chief László Foldi has also accused pro-migrant groups of conducting a “military operation” to weaken the sovereignty of nation states and their borders by mobilising migrants. “What we seeing every day here is a fourth generation military operation against Europe. Not using traditional weaponry to enforce a strategy, but using economic and social infrastructure, and one element of that is the actions carried out by civilian humanitarian organisations,” he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/12/hungary-set-ban-soros-linked-organisations/

Anonymous NateM January 12, 2017 1:02 PM  

@18 Good point, but still seems odd that in a city the size of LA, just playing in Orange County, or Anaheim would be enough to deter fans from other parts of the metro area from caring at all about them. Is it because people from one part of LA won't schlep all the way across town to Anaheim to watch the A's? I get that San Diego isn't close at all (and is a completely different culture), but not going to Anaheim is like saying going to the Valley is just too big a trip. Or again, could it be a TINY bit of elitism on the part of Angelenos? Granted I know travelling 10 miles in LA takes roughly 27 hours..

Blogger James Dixon January 12, 2017 1:07 PM  

> Granted I know travelling 10 miles in LA takes roughly 27 hours..

That's probably most of it.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 1:18 PM  

@31 - It's not just the physical travel that is the issue separating L.A. and O.C. teams, it's the people, the culture, the lifestyle and the feeling of where "home" is.

For those of us from Los Angeles County, Orange County is right there and we are there all the time for business and pleasure, but it's not our home. The houses are different, the girls are different, people drive different cars, the politics are different, the issues are different, the attitudes are different.

And the reverse is true, of course.

In SoCal, you have your Los Angeles sports market (L.A. proper, all of L.A. county, part of Ventura County), your Orange Co. sports market (all of Orange County, parts of Riverside County) and then past Camp Pendleton you have San Diego (S.D. proper, all of San Diego County and parts of Imperial County).

These places have very different cultures. Very different. Even after decades of massive Latino settlement making the populations resemble each other much more than when I was a lad.

Kings fans don't go to see the Ducks, unless the Kings are playing. Angel fans get out to Dodger stadium many once over three years or so for a Dodger Dog and to hear Vin Scully on the wind. (Alas, no more).

None of these people are going to go to Vernon or some godforsaken corner of L.A. County to see the Chargers. None.

Blogger Timmy3 January 12, 2017 1:18 PM  

Why just leave LA? NFL will not last the next century. Nonetheless, LA is still a football town. Many players come from LA and many good recruits are going to USC. USC is LA's team.

Blogger daddynichol January 12, 2017 1:26 PM  

Success comes with the right name. The "Los Angeles Spics" would demand attention throughout the country.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 1:30 PM  

USC is certainly L.A.'s team, which is why this year's Rose Bowl was so awesome!

But the Rams have a lot of fans, real fans. I think Rams fans understand that the move to St Louis was really all about a widely-hated owner and are ready to accept them back. They have been typically dumb in the seemingly mandatory NFL style about it, though.

Sticking the the hated St Louis Rams icon and colors was a HUGE mistake.

Coming out for their first game in their proper colors led people to get excited that they understood what they were doing, but that only lasted a few days.

Blogger eharmonica January 12, 2017 1:33 PM  

Good Lord. USC is USC's team. Go Bruins.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 1:42 PM  

@37 As a Cal grad, I think it's just cute that the satellite baby blue/baby bear campus has its own little team to root for. Getting so big these days!

(Okay, inter-UC mandatory shit-giving aside, UCLA is also well-beloved in Los Angeles, especially basketball, but for those without a direct school tie, it's pretty clear that the common folk in L.A. root for USC as a general rule. And when the NFL completely left L.A., that left the Trojans as the default-team-of-choice, however terrible that prospect must seem from a Bruins angle.)

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 12, 2017 1:50 PM  

WaterBoy wrote:VFM #6306: "The ...Lions...will be bought out."

Never gonna happen, no matter what Goodell does with his sanity. Too much history in the league.

If an 0-16 season isn't gonna kill it, nothing will.


The Lions are Detroit's version of mythical truth.

Anonymous Huckleberry January 12, 2017 1:53 PM  

This is insane. It's difficult to explain to people not from Southern California because the cities look so close on a map but there is ZERO interaction between Los Angeles and San Diego. No one in either city gives a remote fuck about the other, let alone their teams. If this is the plan, it's a crazy one. Ain't no way no S.D. folks are going to "commute" to L.A. to watch the "Los Angeles Chargers" and no one is L.A. is going to root for them either.

This is about 99% true.
However, head to PetCo Park when the Padres play the Dodgers and tell me if it still feels like you're in San Diego.
As for the Chargers, it's sad they're leaving San Diego, but San Diego is a horrible sports town who couldn't even keep the Clippers in the fold.
I mean, come on, the Clippers.
I greatly look forward to seeing which team gets better attendance in the StubHub Center, the Chargers or the Galaxy.
And for all you moral derelicts bragging on USC as "LA's Team" just keep in mind that such is the marriage of two horrible enterprises.

Anonymous User January 12, 2017 1:54 PM  

Angelinos are pretty enthusiastic Dodgers fans. Of course baseball appeals to both whites and mestizos and the team is generally solid.

Blogger Jourdan January 12, 2017 2:04 PM  

@40 - I've seen that up close at PetCo and I know what you mean, but when I was walking around the Gaslamp prior to game time, talking to Dodger fans, most of them were coming UP from Baja and not down from L.A. I didn't really understand it, because I would think that the Padres would be popular in TJ.

Anonymous Huckleberry January 12, 2017 2:10 PM  

Do you not remember Cheech Marin from Born in East L.A.?

Anonymous BBGKB January 12, 2017 2:49 PM  

There are roughly 5 million white men in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area. Demographics aren't the issue. The problem is the

How many of those are actual STR8 )))white((( family men?

Blogger Karl January 12, 2017 2:49 PM  

Is this a defensive move based on the new "D-league" announced yesterday?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/01/11/pacific-pro-football-league-developmental-college-ed-mccaffrey/96416744/

"The people behind a new professional league that hopes to launch in 2018 say they don’t intend to compete with the NCAA. They have a long way to go financially and otherwise just to get their venture off the ground. But if they can play even one season, paying the bills and cutting 18- to 22-year-olds in on the action, it’s easy to see where the impact could be significant.

...

"The plan: Four teams based in Southern California, each playing an eight-game schedule on Sundays during the sports dead zone of July and August. Roughly 50 players per team making an average salary and benefits package of $50,000 a year, which they’d be free to supplement with endorsements. Rules tweaked to enhance safety and give NFL scouts matchups they want to see. Coaches with NFL experience, who would teach pro-style schemes in an immersive environment unbound by rules regarding classroom time. Any player four years or fewer removed from high school would be eligible, including college underclassmen who’d entered the NFL draft.

Blogger Bard January 12, 2017 3:13 PM  

No team can make in LA because of demographics. Answer: two shitty teams. That's a bold strategy Cotton.

Blogger Dave January 12, 2017 3:56 PM  

I won't be surprised if both the Chargers and the Rams leave LA within a decade.

The new Inglewood stadium is scheduled to be ready for the 2019 season. It's unlikely a team would leave a state-of-the-art stadium within eight years of the opening.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) January 12, 2017 4:04 PM  

35. daddynichol January 12, 2017 1:26 PM
Success comes with the right name. The "Los Angeles Spics" would demand attention throughout the country.



if we're going to call Washington the Whiteskins i don't see why we couldn't call the LA team the Brownskins.




44. BBGKB January 12, 2017 2:49 PM
How many of those are actual STR8 )))white((( family men?



i thought homos LIKED watching men swing wood around.

Blogger Verne January 12, 2017 4:51 PM  

San Diego supports the Chargers. The demographics are such that they would always support the Chargers. Los Angeles will support the Chargers if the Chargers become a dominant NFL team. I don't foresee this is a very intelligent move for them. The actual Stadium Market isn't that much bigger than San Diego's. And with competition from the Rams, the original LA team. I don't see this going well

Blogger pyrrhus January 12, 2017 4:56 PM  

LA is more of a college football town, with the huge rivalry between USC and UCLA showing no signs of cooling down...

Blogger Rambam January 12, 2017 5:29 PM  

Win and they will come. Viva Los Cargadores and Los Carneros! This is the foreign expansion that Goodell has been wanting.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 12, 2017 5:52 PM  

Karl @45: "Is this a defensive move based on the new "D-league" announced yesterday?"

No, the Chargers have been threatening this for some time, to try to pressure SD into a new stadium.

And initially, this D-league wouldn't be competition for anyone, including the NCAA. It might draw some marginal talent away from colleges, but the 3-5 star recruits are still going to get their full-ride plus side bennies...with the possible exception of the extremely academically-challenged.

Anonymous BBGKB January 12, 2017 7:05 PM  

i thought homos LIKED watching men swing wood around

I am pretty sure the chargers and rams are groidball with no wood involved.

You must be thinking of this LA bat ball team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIStIzQqnI

Blogger Lazarus January 12, 2017 8:00 PM  

cheddarman wrote:I stopped watching pro football about 10 years ago, it is hard for me to relate to a game played mostly by low IQ negroes

Maybe that is why Whities like Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are doing so well.

Blogger Nate January 12, 2017 8:25 PM  

Should've moved the Chargers to Alabama.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 12, 2017 9:14 PM  

Not only is demography going to kick the NFL hard but generation single mom isn't going to be anywhere near as interested in the sport and a lot of promising young men won't be playing the sport for fear of concussion or injury . Concussion is a just concern in my book but another topic

Football is mostly a guy thing, transmitted father to son really , less dads, less football. And yes coaches can help as can friends but its not a substitute

Also as an aside I'll note Esquire has a "Friday Night Tykes" TV show promoting youth football. I assume that its because Esquire's audience is mostly those Middle Aged White Guys but it also smells a bit like football agitprop . way to many black kids though and I suspect that virtue signalling won't improve the shows appeal

Blogger Lazarus January 12, 2017 9:17 PM  

Nate wrote:Should've moved the Chargers to Alabama.

Maybe Alabama couldn't come up with the bribe:

Taxpayers Have Spent A ‘Staggering’ Amount Of Money On NFL Stadiums

Due in part to the size of its stadiums, no league relies more heavily on public subsidies than the NFL. Taxpayers contributed an average of $262 million to each NFL stadium built between 1990 and 2010, urban planner Judith Grant Long found in 2013, about $60 million more than the average MLB stadium received.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 13, 2017 1:23 AM  

@58 - Perhaps the most reprehensible part of American sportsball of all stripes: the constant blackmailing and robbery of taxpayers, all to benefit already-wealthy corporations. Despite what the "studies" they use to get their paws on the cash purport, the economic benefits almost never outweigh the costs.

And speaking of theft, There are roughly 5 million white men in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area. There's also the Lakers, the Dodgers, even the Kings and Galaxy, and the colleges, and the rest of the entertainment available around the SoCal area. Unless those 5 million men are pulling down at least a million each, there's no way they can carry all teams, especially with the $15 parking and the $10 beer.

Blogger VD January 13, 2017 4:40 AM  

Don't complain that your comments are disappearing, gentlemen. I spam everyone who is narcissistic enough to tell us why they don't watch the NFL.

I didn't ask what you watch, or do not watch, and I don't care if you do or not.

Anonymous Discard January 13, 2017 5:52 AM  

Football teams have been unsuccessful at getting Los Angeles (Colosseum) or Pasadena (Rose Bowl) taxpayers to upgrade their stadiums for the benefit of the millionaires who will be sitting in all those skyboxes. Politicians can promise, but the voters won't deliver.

Blogger Nate January 13, 2017 10:19 AM  

"Maybe Alabama couldn't come up with the bribe:"

no... Bama just doesn't have the vision yet. And it is driving me crazy. On saturday with both bama and auburn playing at home... there are 300000 people in football stadiums in the state of alabama, when you include the other colleges attendees as well.

And someone is gonna tell me that Bama couldn't fill a 65k seat NFL stadium?

BS.

Anonymous AzDesertRat January 13, 2017 10:36 AM  

A lot of these teams (especially in the Southwest) have issues with fan bases because most everyone that lives there is from somewhere else. There is a joke in Phoenix that the Cardinals play more away games than any other team in the NFL. If they are playing at home against any team from the NFC North/East it is guaranteed half that stadium, if not more, is wearing the other teams colors/jerseys.
The Coyotes (NHL) have the same problem. A few weeks back they were playing the NY Rangers and the game might as well have been played in New York. At least 60% of the stadium was wearing Ranger blue.

Blogger Jourdan January 13, 2017 11:21 AM  

@62 - Absolutely right. When I was growing up, about 15 minutes from Anaheim Stadium, I just figured that there were always a lot of people rooting for the visiting team. Then, when I was 12, I went on a trip with my grandparents and we took in a Giants game in S.F. There was a lead-off single and the ENTIRE BALLPARK cheered for the home team.

It was like a revelation. Ah! THIS is what it feels like to be at a proper home field!

It's part of the deal in the Southwest. It's too bad, and it's a little sad--especially when someone like the Rangers or the Boston Red Sox are in town and it appears like a home game for the visitors.

As a huge NHL fan, thanks for supporting the Coyotes. They need all the support they can get, and they're a good team.

Blogger Shimshon January 15, 2017 10:51 AM  

"Don't complain that your comments are disappearing, gentlemen. I spam everyone who is narcissistic enough to tell us why they don't watch the NFL."

Ah, I hope not. I was never into sports at all, but the one time I watched the Super Bowl on TV as a kid was when the Rams played. I was from LA, and it was pretty exceptional that they made it. I remember it being a pretty good game too. Even though I wasn't into football, I was pretty bummed when the Rams left, and felt the Raiders were interlopers.

I also went to UCSD for college. My roommates one year (1987-8 as it happened) were ecstatic that the Chargers made it to the Super Bowl. That was fun.

I'll second Jourdan's comments. LA and SD are (or were, as I can't speak to present reality) two very different worlds. LA looked down on SD, and SD loathed LA and everything it represented.

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