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Sunday, January 29, 2017

The order is illegal

An analysis of the recent order by Judge Donnelly by an attorney and former State Department employee:
There are two things not be readily apparent for Americans that are important to know about the action taken by this judge. The first, legal; the second, political.

First, note that the judge’s order blocks immigration authorities for sending people out of the United States “after they have landed at a U.S. airport with valid visas.”

This is an entirely unlawful act by the judge, completely at odds with basic, well-known United States law and, as such, the ruling can be nothing more than naked partisanship, an act aimed at negating a policy disagreed with committed while acting under the color of law.

U.S. visas, of any class, are different from those issued by other countries. They do not confer the right to enter the United States, but the right to present oneself at a Port of Entry (including airports) to ask for permission to enter the United States.

How Can I Use a Visa to Enter the United States?

Having a U.S. visa allows you to travel to a port of entry, airport or land border crossing, and request permission of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Customs and Border Protection (CBP) inspector to enter the United States. While having a visa does not guarantee entry to the United States, it does indicate a consular officer at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate abroad has determined you are eligible to seek entry for that specific purpose. DHS/CBP inspectors, guardians of the nation’s borders, are responsible for admission of travelers to the United States, for a specified status and period of time. DHS also has responsibility for immigration matters while you are present in the United States.

— U.S. Dept. of State, website, webpage “What is a U.S. Visa”

Thus, the entirety of the judge’s order is unlawful and proceeds from an assumption of legal facts about what a U.S. visa is that is wrong. This judge isn’t stupid. She knows this. She knows that the order she issued is unlawful.
There is more, so read the whole thing there. It's more serious than it looks at first glance, and confirms my opinion that Trump needs to crush this attempt to delegitimize his authority. And while it looks like the administration has partially backed down, given Priebus's statement that the ban will not apply to green card holders, that may not be the case, since green card holders presumably have the right to entry that non-holders with visas do not.

73 Comments:

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) January 29, 2017 4:09 PM  

And while it looks like the administration has partially backed down, given Priebus's statement that the ban will not apply to green card holders, that may not be the case, since green card holders presumably have the right to entry that non-holders with visas do not.

The green card piece was the once piece that was going to be most difficult for the admin to uphold in legal challenges.

Blogger Bruce January 29, 2017 4:17 PM  

True. A green card offers more entry rights than a visa.

Blogger Artisanal Toad January 29, 2017 4:18 PM  

Trump needs to crush this attempt to delegitimize his authority.

The appropriate action that will set the tone is an impeachment and the body to perform that action is the Senate. To date, only 15 Federal judges have been impeached and regardless of the outcome, which would obviously involve partisan politics, impeachment would send a very strong message to the Federal Judiciary that they need to stay out of Trump's way. They Federal Judiciary are appointed for life in order to remove them from the political process. Stay out.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 29, 2017 4:20 PM  

He will need to be ready to impeach judges. As with the rioters, the fringe left needs to be shown illegal behavior has consequences. They will then quickly crumble or leave.

Anonymous damntull January 29, 2017 4:23 PM  

Vox, your high energy over the past few days has been welcome relief. Keep it up!

Blogger weka January 29, 2017 4:26 PM  

Impeach after higher courts over rule and immigration functionally ignored the judge. Rico the ACLU and SPLC.

No mercy

Anonymous simplytimothy January 29, 2017 4:29 PM  

OT but relevant : https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/29/jaw-dropping-mexican-official-threatens-to-unleash-cartels-flood-u-s-with-drugs-and-narcotics/

Talk about ripping the mask off the Left. #war

Blogger VFM #7634 January 29, 2017 4:29 PM  

This ban got Chuckie Schumer crying on live TV. More winning.

Blogger RobertT January 29, 2017 4:49 PM  

Ditto #5 above. Best blog on the net.

Blogger Dr Caveman January 29, 2017 4:53 PM  

Muslim countries banning me for having an Israeli visa stamp in my EU passport:
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Sudan
Yemen

Anonymous Longtime Lurker January 29, 2017 4:55 PM  

@8: And they were phony tears at that.

Blogger exfarmkid January 29, 2017 5:00 PM  

Bobby Farr "He will need to be ready to impeach judges. "

House of Representatives. Up to them.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum January 29, 2017 5:02 PM  

President Trump can end islam in about 5 minutes, and end the need for a "muslim ban" completely.

Address the nation and say the following:


"Good evening my fellow Americans, and Salutations to our friends and allies across the globe. I am going to speak to you tonight about a topic that has been ignored and brushed aside for too long: The cult of muhammed.

"This scourge has no place in our present day. muhammed had sex with a nine year old girl, Aisha, he raped his sex slaves after torturing their husbands to death, he killed 800 men and boys who had surrendered, and much more. Within islam, muhammed is considered "the perfect man." This plague has been going on long enough, and I am beginning the process de-islamification here and now.

"muhammed has no claim on any of you. None of you would follow anyone else who did such horrible actions. muhammed was a horrible human being, and is best forgotten.

"To the muslims around the world, I implore you, come back to humanity, we kafirs are your friends, and want nothing but peace with you. If you continue on the path that muhammed, 1400 years ago, placed you on, I promise you that it will end with your annihilation.

"To all the ex-muslims of the world, know that your friends in America stand with you.

"Good night, and God Bless each and everyone of you."

Imagine THAT speech and the repercussions around the globe...

Blogger Silly But True January 29, 2017 5:08 PM  

I think Porteus was the last one: a real winner and one of Clinton's guys down in New Orleans.

Dust off the process and get the assembly line going.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 29, 2017 5:12 PM  

The judiciary (or any other governing body but the US congress) has no right or power to rule over the administrations treatment of foreign nationals. This was made abundantly clear when Obama took Arizona to court and won over their enforcement of US law.

More traitorous judges in Virginia, and Washington are now joining in on the traitorous acts. If anyone has any question about how hopelessly partisan the judiciary is need only look at how eager they are to get involved in this executive action vs Obama's abrogation of US immigration law. You could barely get 1 judge to take action in the former case (note Obama ignored his injunction and suffered no consequences) that was clear cut. The Trump administration should extend the ban to all immigrants just to drive the point home that this is his jurisdiction. Then get congress to bring impeachment hearings against these traitorous judges. Total war is the only way at this point.

Anonymous Siobhan January 29, 2017 5:16 PM  

Is the order being rapidly defanged???

From the Guardian just now:

"A statement from the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson says that after conversations with the US government, the department can confirm the following (direct from its statement):

The presidential executive order only applies to individuals travelling from one of the seven named countries.
If you are travelling to the US from anywhere other than one of those countries (for instance, the UK) the executive order does not apply to you and you will experience no extra checks regardless of your nationality or your place of birth.

If you are a UK national who happens to be travelling from one of those countries to the US, then the order does not apply to you – even if you were born in one of those countries.

If you are a dual citizen of one of those countries travelling to the US from OUTSIDE those countries then the order does not apply to you.

The only dual nationals who might have extra checks are those coming from one of the seven countries themselves – for example a UK-Libya dual national coming from Libya to the US."

So... If you're from one of these countries, just fly to a different country first??? Or am I reading it wrong?

Blogger Tom Kratman January 29, 2017 5:18 PM  

This isn't quite as clear cut as people seem to think. She hasn't, so far as I can tell, said the visa holders must be let in. (Though there's a nuance or two there I'll get to in a second.) Instead, she's granted a stay, a _temporary_ hold on planned action to allow lawyers on both sides to research the facts and the law, assemble their arguments, and then present those arguments. As far as that goes, assuming the ACLU has presented at least a half assed, prima facie case for not permitting the deportations, is actually pretty legitimate.

The nuances are twofold. One is, can they be billeted in something like reasonably humane conditions at customs? Probably not; thus they will soon be, if they have not already been, allowed to enter the US. Nuance two is that once they have the lawyers can get to them, conveniently, and assemble all kinds of incidents and do all kinds of coaching to get them allowed to stay.

Now, I have little doubt but that Donelly is fully aware of this, and intends it to happen. But what she's done so far is probably not impeachable, even so.

Blogger Arithtoddle January 29, 2017 5:25 PM  

The Saker just wrote about the Deep State's naked aggression towards Trump, the gloves are off. For further rebellion--such as Sanctuary ciies--Michael Scheuer has a good suggestion: arrest the top dogs and continue down the line till submission ("On sanctuary, Mr. President, speed fueled by Jacksonian fury is vital.")

Blogger Arithtoddle January 29, 2017 5:36 PM  

@17 Tom, in previous historical incidents where the elites thwarted the will of the people, the guillotines were busy. I don't give a damn if they can be "reasonably billeted." Follow the bloody order!

Anonymous Laz January 29, 2017 5:41 PM  

Just hound them and hunt them down until they all go home for safety, then nuke them. I read that in a book somewhere...

Blogger Silly But True January 29, 2017 5:43 PM  

An "impeachable offense" is anything which can be deemed "not good behavior" i.e. undefined "high crimes and misdemeanors."

That is, they can be impeached for any reason whatsoever if impeachers have numbers to get conviction.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 29, 2017 5:47 PM  

can they be billeted in something like reasonably humane conditions

They could enjoy the wonderful Caribbean sunshine at Guantanamo for as long as any adjudication takes, maybe longer.

Blogger kh123 January 29, 2017 5:53 PM  

If judicial partisanship is the case, it seems the black robe is increasingly becoming a low cut hijab.

And if what @16 points out is true, it shows that even careful wording in the restriction - restricted as the restriction is - won't stop the Left-in-power from doing the Pavlov and declaring an equal playing field for every other country on the globe, regardless. Why, Ububuland jihadi melting pots are just as culturally functional as any other compatible Western culture. You see how they venerate their well-combed children when they wash up on the beach? So huggable.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 29, 2017 6:02 PM  

Good link, and it's nice to see "cold civil war" has become accepted rhetoric, largely because it describes the actual state of affairs.

@17:

There really is no nuance as far as visas. As the link pointed out, that only gives the recipient the right to present, not the right to enter. Also, as is noted, the judge surely must be aware of it. Her injunction in that regard needs to be overturned tomorrow. In the meantime, prevention of entry probably is not a violation of the order.

The green card holders are more problematic but those, too, can be revoked after a proper hearing.

Anonymous BBGKB January 29, 2017 6:06 PM  

Trump needs to crush this attempt to delegitimize his authority

Put up posters of her around the Home Depots near her along with her net worth & address. Wetbacks can do the job Americans wont.

jaw-dropping-mexican-official-threatens-to-unleash-cartels-flood-u-s-with-drugs-and-narcotics

Too late they have been doing nothing against the cartels for years.

Muslim countries banning me for having an Israeli visa stamp in my EU passport

Why would you want to go to any of those other than to join Anderson Cooper doing bacha bazi?

where the elites thwarted the will of the people, the guillotines were busy. I don't give a damn if they can be "reasonably billeted."

Did you mean reasonably BULLETED?

Blogger Were-Puppy January 29, 2017 6:09 PM  

@13 Credo in Unum Deum
President Trump can end islam in about 5 minutes, and end the need for a "muslim ban" completely.
---

If you are trying to wipe it out super quickly like that, it makes more sense to nuke mecca. Then they have nowhere to pray to.

Blogger tz January 29, 2017 6:17 PM  

Trump can also directly attack Ruthie Ginsberg who said several things during the campaign that any other judge should recuse herself. Trump should say she should retire to New Zealand - if they will have her - like she said. Now two vacancies and more balance.

I think Clinton fired every lawyer in the DoJ and the rest of government (they serve at the pleasure of the president).

Also, he can't fire federal judges, but he can cut the budget for the judiciary. When this judge needs to bring in candles and wear long underwear in court...

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 29, 2017 6:18 PM  

it makes more sense to nuke mecca

Nuking Riyadh would be nearly as beneficial and would avoid the blowback from destroying a holy city. Hell, half the world would probably support such a move, even if only in private.

Blogger Open Carry January 29, 2017 6:25 PM  

ZH reports on ten Republican Senators going squishy on the issue. This is clearly shaping up as a tough battle, which goes to show that immigration is the left's main, perhaps even the only, "red line", because in the long run it determines everything else.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 29, 2017 6:29 PM  

Removing a federal judge is almost impossible. This is a flaw in the Constitution, the Framers underestimated the agency of faction. The process is the same for a federal judge as it is for a president. The House has got to vote to impeach by a simple majority. What charges constitute an impeachable offense? Anything that you can get the votes for, really. But then the Senate has to try and convict by a 2/3 majority. As long as those judges are hewing to the Democrat Party line they will never be convicted in the Senate.

It is a nut, because the judiciary is consumed with progressive activists these days. Worse, Obama packed many of the lower courts. He even expanded the DC Court (a crucial one) to pack it with activists in a pre-emptive move to preserve Obamacare. These positions are lifetime appointments, all.

The judiciary cries out reform. As constituted today it imperils the republic. And it's the hardest to reform of all, even as it accrues more and more unaccountable power unto itself.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 29, 2017 6:36 PM  

What the Congress can do, if it had balls, is to exercise its Constitution-given role to apportion the federal courts and their jurisdictions. In theory Congress can reorganize the entire judicial system, and also lay down the legal bounds within which the courts can preside. Love to see it happen.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 29, 2017 6:42 PM  

@19

You surely don't think I'm going to object to that, do you?

However, it's still as I said. What the bitch has done so far is probably within her purview.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 29, 2017 6:48 PM  

"Removing a federal judge is almost impossible."

That's why you just arrest them. Members of Congress on their way to or from voting are privileged from being arrested. Not so with federal judges.

Blogger mona montag January 29, 2017 6:49 PM  

Why is the white psyche and physique so chained to the Negro?

I think part of the problem is blacks have come to represent both the Id and the Superego(or supernegro) among white folks.

1. Blacks as Id.

Because blacks are wild, expressive, colorful, and vibrant, many white folks(and other non-black folks, be they Asian, Muslim, Mexican, or Hindu) rely on blacks to express what is repressed or relatively lackluster within themselves. So, a bland proggy white girl will listen to Tina Turner and feel her own sexuality & angst expressed through Tina's wild & powerful performance. It's like Jungle Therapy. Since the bland white girl hasn't the voice, personality, and temperament to be express her own natural drives so fully, robustly, and audaciously, she identifies with the Negress shaman as medium for her emotions and drives. Since the Negress can act wilder, she serves as a kind of Negro-electro-amplifier for the emotions of the white woman that simply cannot be charged up to that level.

And among the white males, there is a kind of thrill in watching black athletes because black male-athletic powers goes way beyond that of whites. Blacks can run faster, jump higher, punch harder, and etc. So, a white boy, brown boy, and yellow boy may look to the Negro as the most potent purveyor of the universal male Id. Though all males have the male Id or male animal drive, it is manifested most loudly and aggressively when, for example, Muhammad Ali KO'ed Sonny Liston and howled he the greatest and shi*.

So, there may be a kind of Id Addiction in relation to the Negro. Since our world is sports-music-sex-obsessed, many non-black women look to black women as the most bodacious purveyor of the Id. Consider the success of Beyonce, Rihanna, and Nikki Minaj of the twerking-big-butt-kind.

And among non-black males, their less-loud-and-less-wild manhood is channeled through the more rambunctious Id of the Negro who can howl the loudest as the rapper dude and who can sack the quarterback the hardest.

And there may be an element of this in the 'cuckolding' culture where white men invite black men to hump their wives. Thus, white boys can partake of the bigger Id of the Negro who be humping the white ho with more gusto. Negro guy becomes the fantasy-extension of the white guy's Id.

Given the Id addiction to blackness among whites(and it is spreading to Japan too), the West may be helpless to come to its senses and realize that Negromania is dangerous to civilization.

2. Blacks as Superego.

Because America dominates the world, it's particular Cult of Guilt defines global morality. And since Jews dominate media and academia, they've promoted White Guilt vis-a-vis blacks as one of the great sins(next to Holocaust) in order to paralyze white power and make it subservient to moral blackmail.

So, the deification of MLK and Mandela became central to global morality. Actually, black Americans in the 1950s were well-off and safe compared to many other peoples in the world. Sure, the US was unfair to blacks, but what blacks experienced in the 20th century could hardly be compared with the true horrors all over the world in the 2oth century. Consider the death tolls of Armenians, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Chinese, Algerians, East Timorese, Cambodians, Kurds, and etc.

But since US narrative dominates the world, MLK became a world figure and the 'plight' of black Americans(though piddly compared to true horrors suffered by others in the century) became one of the great 'global' tragedies.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 29, 2017 6:49 PM  

"They could enjoy the wonderful Caribbean sunshine at Guantanamo for as long as any adjudication takes, maybe longer."

GTMO's an interesting case. For a long time, the federal courts denied they had jurisdiction there, which is why we interned the Haitians there in the early 90s. BTDT, myself, actually. Then, with using it to hold RIF, the courts decided they did have jurisdiction. The reason we liked it for the Haitians and, until the courts interfered, the RIF, was precisely because the generally liberal US courts didn't assert jurisdiction and we could do what we liked, the way we wanted to. This included making life unpleasant for lefty human rights lawyers and activists who wanted to ensure the enemy / the barbarian invaders had every possible chance to get into the US to do their good work of harming us and driving us under.

However, as things stand now, sending someone to GTMO doesn't keep the human rights pukes away from them, and only inconveniences the armed forces.

Blogger tz January 29, 2017 6:49 PM  

Nuke Medina (with a dirty bomb), then say Mecca is next if any Muslim kills any US citizen.

Blogger mona montag January 29, 2017 6:49 PM  



And even though blacks in South Africa actually had it better than most blacks in black-run Africa, Apartheid was made out to be one of the most evil things in history. (In contrast, most Americans still don't know what Nakba is or the true nature of the Occupation in West Bank. Well, Jews control the global narrative.) Anyway, because of the cult of Negro Nobility and neo-religious sanctimony around MLK and Mandela --- when Negroes try to be 'noble', they come across more eloquent & inspirational than others with their soaring voices or Morgan-Freeman-like smoothness --- , white people have come to look to Negro as the gatekeeper to higher morality, even to heaven. For some, the Magic Negro be god hisself.

So, we have a paradoxical situation where whites look to Negroes as both the celebrators of ultimate Id and torchbearers of the ultimate sanctimony.

White Delusions are at the center of globalist morality and culture.

Of course, white elites don't suffer physically(not yet anyway) from the consequences this delusion since they have money, privilege, and safe spaces. They can afford to deal with only fancy Negroes like Obama who know how to push the buttons and milk White Psychology. They reside in the Elysium world of their own. (It's like the elites can invite in tons of hostile Muslims and live good for themselves while the hoi polloi must deal with the demographic mess at the ground level.)

But the spread of blacks and black influence in the culture at large will be the fatal undoing of the West.

White Race will be destroyed by the black fist, black dong, black booty, and black holler while it gazes at heaven for MLK and Mandela to save its wicked soul.

Imagine the white race as Milo with a Negro dong up his butt as he preaches that Democrats are the 'real racists' because MLK was for the 'content of one's character.'

The end result of Negro-as-Id and Negro-as-superego is white women using their wombs to create black babies with the full blessing of cucked out white males.
There is no greater betrayal than this. Those who betray with ideas can change their minds and return to the fold. After all, a Christian who loses his faith can return to faith. A man who turns communist can renounce communism and return to patriotism.
But a white woman who uses her very body and white womb --- the product of 10,000s of evolution in Europe --- as the creator of black babies is an absolute and total traitor. She didn't just betray with ideas but within the source of life itself. And since she used her womb to produce black kids, she is also a murderer of white-kids-that-could-have-been who were pushed out of the 'nest' by the Negrolets.

Whenever a white woman has a black kid, she is killing the white-kid-that-could-have-been. Jungle Fever is White Genocide within the womb of white woman, the very source of life. White people can only be created within white wombs. So, a white womb that goes Negro has betrayed whiteness within sanctum of white life. A mudshark is like a Jew who collaborates with Nazis to kill Jews.
Since Jews hate the white race, it is no wonder that Jews glorify the mudshark as the ideal of white womanhood. A mudshark is a white woman who uses her womb to produce the main enemies of the white race: black kids.

Why do Jews push homomania into the Christian Church? The Church is like the sanctum, holy place, and womb of the Faith. It is a sacred place from which the Word of God is dispensed. So, when the inner core of Christian practice, the Church, is planted with the Homo Flag, the essential meaning of the faith is altered. Jews are trying to 'inseminate' the Church with Homomania and to inseminate the white womb with the black seed.

Anonymous Sharrukin January 29, 2017 6:52 PM  

Someone posted this link on the other thread...bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat )

Removing Federal Judges Without Impeachment

http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/removing-federal-judges-without-impeachment

Blogger MisesMat January 29, 2017 6:57 PM  

Vox, the Department of Homeland Security is refusing to obey this court order: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/01/29/department-homeland-security-response-recent-litigation#

Good news!

@17 Tom, what happens now that the DHS has refused the judge's stay?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 29, 2017 6:57 PM  

@28. Tatooine, If we're feeling crazy enough to start nuking, nuking Mecca would be far better. The blow-back is a feature, as it would give us a perfect excuse to escalate and completely eradicate the religion from the globe when they lost their minds.

If we were both sufficiently crazy and had a spare nuke though, might as well nuke both.

Blogger exfarmkid January 29, 2017 7:02 PM  

30. A Deplorable Rubber Ducky "Removing a federal judge is almost impossible. "

I remember Alcee Hastings being impeached and convicted in the 1980's. Something about financial improprieties. Notable for its rarity. Is he still in the Congress?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 29, 2017 7:03 PM  

@34. mona, I see what you did there. "blackmail"

That being said, you're totally delusional. White people may see black people largely as representative of the Id in that theory, but very, very few (exceedingly sheltered) white people will ever truly see them as representing the Superego.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 29, 2017 7:06 PM  

@32:

I misread you a bit earlier. The judge was narrow enough for it probably to be within her purview since she found irreparable harm possible only from deportation rather than entry.

I can't tell what is being claimed as the DHS's refusal to enforce the order. If it is allow the detained to be released from a hold, that doesn't seem a violation.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 29, 2017 7:07 PM  

Well... that escalated quickly.

Week one and we have a media freak out and melt down (expected), leading a judge to cause a constitution crisis (not scheduled until next month, I think).

Shortest honeymoon on record.

Can't wait to see what he's go in store for next week!

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner January 29, 2017 7:22 PM  

it makes more sense to nuke mecca...Nuking Riyadh would be nearly as beneficial and would avoid the blowback from destroying a holy city

Do both during Ramadan

OT: New TV show "WHO WANTS TO WATCH A DYKE EAT HATIAN CHEESE"
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/hillary-is-back-intends-to-start-tv-show-and-position-for-another-run-shes-convinced-shed-get-fabulous-ratings_01272017

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable January 29, 2017 7:33 PM  

The article misses the point that the judge derives her authority from the Legislative branch, which has no authority to counter Trump's order absent a specific law.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 29, 2017 7:43 PM  

tz wrote:Nuke Medina (with a dirty bomb), then say Mecca is next if any Muslim kills any US citizen.

No. They follow the strong horse. Steal their space rock, intern it in the middle of a pig farm, let tge pray to it 5x per day and deny them a visa to visit it.

Nuke their pillars, not their cities.

Blogger Silly But True January 29, 2017 8:18 PM  

The winning continues. Even God took a break on Sunday after making a new reality.

But apparently, He was just God. Not the God-Emperor.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 29, 2017 8:26 PM  

@39:

I'm not actually sure. She has no power that the executive isn't required for enforcement of and if the executive says, "fuck off, bitch," she's left twiddling her thumbs.

This, you know, is the one thing the liberal courts really needed to avoid, the recognition and demonstration that they are not only illegitimate, but powerless.

Blogger Harsh January 29, 2017 8:41 PM  

Hey, Mona? Shut the fuck up.

Blogger tuberman January 29, 2017 8:44 PM  

#49 Harsh

I need to second what you said....Hey, Mona? Shut the fuck up.

Mona Please go back to the weirdo sites that post such shit all the time.

Blogger Kristophr January 29, 2017 8:51 PM  

Two possible solutions:

The Senate impeaches the judge ( Aaron Burr impeached a lot of Federalist judges ).

Redistrict the federal courts. Congress sets Federal court districting ... they can redistrict ALL of them, as Jefferson did. Then all the positions will need to be re-filled.

Blogger tuberman January 29, 2017 8:57 PM  

It should be interesting to see what Trump does, as it's obvious the Saker is right, and President Trump is involved in a cold civil war. I'm sure he knows this.

Blogger tuberman January 29, 2017 9:01 PM  

"This, you know, is the one thing the liberal courts really needed to avoid, the recognition and demonstration that they are not only illegitimate, but powerless."

Tom, it may be that simple, except the MSM still has some effect...not much.

Anonymous JAG January 29, 2017 9:15 PM  

This is a great opportunity. I hope more leftist judges pull this crap because it will be reason in itself for Congress to redistrict all of the shitlib judges out of power. All it takes is gonads. I know that is in short supply among Congressional Republicans, but that can change too in 2018 with Alt-Right leaning candidates.

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Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 29, 2017 9:35 PM  

exfarmkid @41 - Yes, Alcee Hastings is still in Congress. And, he's still an absolute disgrace. The crazy thing is, this is a rare example of an impeachment that WORKED. And we still can't get rid of the guy!

Blogger praetorian January 29, 2017 9:41 PM  

OT: Apparently trump is stumping non-profits bigly w/ some 88D chess moves:

https://twitter.com/resisterhood/status/825435325535252480

Blogger Avalanche January 29, 2017 9:51 PM  

@57 Hysterical! And I love Trump's (apparent) 2020 slogan:

"Keep America Great"

Not JUST winning, but winning now and in the future!

Blogger Harold January 29, 2017 10:16 PM  

Off topic- shooting at Quebec City mosque. 2 suspects in custody, reportedly with Quebecois names, which I guess means French sounding. The world is getting more unsettled.

Anonymous Millenium January 29, 2017 10:26 PM  

OT, shots fired at a mosque in Quebec

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38793071

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 29, 2017 10:26 PM  

@57.

"Need to find a way to work against Trump (for the 2020 election) without campaigning".

...

HOW DOES SHE NOT REALIZE THAT THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF CAMPAIGNING?

These fucking people...

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 29, 2017 10:47 PM  

Boycott Starbucks https://news.starbucks.com/news/living-our-values-in-uncertain-times

Anonymous krymneth January 29, 2017 10:49 PM  

From the "Trust Trump... No, Seriously, Trust Trump" department: This immigration thing has exploded across the media, and it defies the imagination that this was unanticipated by Trump. So it must be some sort of trap for the media and for liberals... the question is merely, what is the trap? (And "will it work", since as smart as Trump is there's still no guarantee. But he's been playing a pretty good game so far.)

And I think now we can see the shape of the trap. Trump is convincing or has convinced key countries in the Middle East to take the refugees instead.

It will be very easy to sell this as the superior solution for the refugees. Why should they be expected to travel thousands of miles into a foreign culture, where they don't speak the language and have poor prospects of any sort of security or advancement, when they can be housed a few hundred miles away in a land where they do speak the language, have a very similar culture, and could very easily stay there long term and integrate into the host country if necessary? And if you really want to twist the shiv, why subject these poor refugees to the putatively racist elements of the putatively uniquely racist US and EU when they could stay much closer to home?

Instantly, the solution being screamed for by the left is revealed to be the rationally inferior solution to Trump's solution, for all involved. But of course, "rationally" doesn't much enter into this excepting inasmuch as the rational reasons serve to focus the direction of the rationalizations deployed to defend against it.

If my theory about the nature of the trap is correct, get ready for some Grade A rationalization. Because as the Dread Ilk know and the Anonymous Conservative's crowd knows, and not very much of the rest of the world knows, it's not about the refugees at all, they're just pawns. It's about the subconscious and instinctive playing out of the r reproductive strategy. The rationalizations about how it is absolutely vital that the refugees make sacrifices to choose the inferior solution for themselves and make the trip to the US and Europe are going to be absolutely epic. A fresh opportunity for some more self-beclowning before the American public.

I don't really "do" r-style thinking but I'll make a prediction that we're going to see at least one argument about how vital it is for refugees to come here so they can be forced into the faces of the racists because... uhh... they deserve it or something, since it's not like they can be taught or anything, but that'll show 'em, give 'em diversity good and hard. Why this is a good idea for the refugees won't come up, because, again, they're not actually relevant in the leftist's minds except as pawns. (Perhaps that's also an angle that can also be used to beat the Left's increasingly-terminal moral high horse a bit.)

(Also, while I'm interested in the terms of the deal... well... let's all be honest. This is partially the US' mess. I mean, thanks Bush and Obama!, but Trump still inherited it fair and square. If we have to toss some money or equivalent into the kitty to help take care of these refugees, I'm not going to complain. It'll still be a steal of a deal.)

(Also, Vox, I know you say some members of the administration have read SJWAL, if not necessarily Trump directly; one wonders if Anonymous Conservative may not have a fan or three over there too?)

Anonymous krymneth January 29, 2017 10:52 PM  

Oh, and might I add that if my theory about the nature of the trap is correct, that deal did not happen today. Trump's announcement is too big a shift in their attitudes for IMHO even Trump to have moved in a single phone call. For this trap to work reliably the deals were clearly already in place behind the scenes, since before the immigration restrictions were even announced.

Blogger Quicksilver75 January 30, 2017 12:22 AM  

Wowza. Yeeowza. This weekend has brought out to full fruition all the NeverTrumpers whose primary desire was to sustain open borders. Ditto for the open borders, multicult fanatics which constitute 60%+ of the Democrat party. It is fascinating to behold just how sacrosanct both parts of 'Invade the World, Invite the World' is to this Neocon cadre.

Blogger Dave January 30, 2017 12:57 AM  

@krymneth

Along the same lines; very good YouTube Sunday by Stefan Molynuex. https://t.co/g11v0nt7lY

He states the cost to bring in and support one Muslim refugee to America would cover 12 refugees if kept in the Middle East. And now we hear that Trump is working with Saudi to establish safe zones

Blogger Jourdan January 30, 2017 1:33 AM  

The Colonel's remarks above are mostly correct, and well-taken, but there are a few more wrinkles in this that you should know about before coming to the conclusion that impeachment is the only way forward.

The Constitution empowers Congress with the power to establish Federal courts inferior to the Supreme Court, but does not *require* that Congress does so.

Additionally, the Constitution also empowers to it to establish the jurisdiction of any such inferior court it decides to establish.

Thus, the easy fix--and what was done in the 80s-90s when the Federal judiciary became over-obstructionist on questions of capital punishment--is for the Republican majority in both houses of Congress to simply strip the District Courts of jurisdiction on immigration and naturalization matters.

That this could be done tomorrow, had Ryan or McConnell a single testicle between them, is both perfectly legal and perfectly effective.

Anonymous Bobby Farr January 30, 2017 2:20 AM  

Wow. Trump humiliated Graham and McCain on Twitter while eviscerating the invade the world, invite the world philosophy. All in two tweets.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 30, 2017 3:27 AM  

@7 Pretty much standard leftist tautological blackmail logic:
"Let in the cartels or we'll loose the cartels!"

"Let the mooslims radicalize or you'll radicalize the mooslims!"

"You must let greedy, corrupt criminals run the government or greedy, corrupt criminals will run everything!"

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 30, 2017 3:55 AM  

@59 & @60
Annnd...It's mooslims...
Quelle surprise!

[the "white supremacists suspects" was from a meme from a parody twitter account which fake news msm ran with unquestioningly - how much more delegitimized can they get?]

Blogger JWM in SD January 30, 2017 8:30 AM  

"He states the cost to bring in and support one Muslim refugee to America would cover 12 refugees if kept in the Middle East. And now we hear that Trump is working with Saudi to establish safe zones"

Dave,

That might also explain why Saudi Arabia wasn't on the ban list to begin with. It's never made sense to be shipping refugees to Germany and US all the way from ME. The way it's supposed to work according to international law is that refugees go to the next safe country which is generally means those contiguous with their origin country. Not go on a fucking international pilgrimage.

Blogger Unknown January 30, 2017 3:38 PM  

To paraphrase, The judge has made her decision, now let her enforce it. What is the judge going to do if Trump ignores her order? Look foolish?

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