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Monday, January 30, 2017

Two for one

I must say, I like the cut of the God-Emperor's jib:
President Donald Trump signed an order on Monday that will seek to dramatically pare back federal regulations by requiring agencies to cut two existing regulations for every new rule introduced.

"This will be the biggest such act that our country has ever seen. There will be regulation, there will be control, but it will be normalized control," Trump said as he signed the order in the Oval Office, surrounded by a group of small business owners.
Love it. LOVE IT! Now to cancel all the H1B visas....

You know it's a good Monday when you wake up, see that the sun is shining, and realize that the God-Emperor is in his white house, god-emperoring, and all will be right with the world.

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Blogger Queen Medusa January 30, 2017 11:10 AM  

Trumpkrieg continues

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable January 30, 2017 11:18 AM  

Brilliant. Forces the bean counters and bureaucrats to take the machete to the jungle they created.

Blogger Todd Pitner January 30, 2017 11:19 AM  

Ah yes, the God Emperor of Whoop-Ass is at it again.

Can't wait to see what he has for lunch!

Blogger bearspaw January 30, 2017 11:20 AM  

The verb form of 'trump' is going to make a big time comeback.

Blogger Elkanah Haon January 30, 2017 11:21 AM  

"Forces the bean counters and bureaucrats to take the machete to the jungle they created."

Yup. Also ensures that any mischief on their part - cutting sensible, needed, regulation in an effort to get clickbait headlines on how corporations are being deregulated or people are going to suffer - will blow back in their faces rather than Trump's or the GOP.

Anonymous FP January 30, 2017 11:24 AM  

"You carry the Emperor's will as your torch, with it destroy the shadows."

Blogger The Rev January 30, 2017 11:31 AM  

The less laws, the less thieves.

Anonymous Rory January 30, 2017 11:34 AM  

Interested to see the exact text of it. Hopefully "regulation" is fairly broadly defined and won't just mean, in practice, "removing bulletpoint 4 on subsection 2A of the 32nd page of..."

Although, as with the immigration EO, I suspect it's gonna be about the actual execution of these orders. Having people tasked with making sure the spirit of the law is followed.

Would gladly be tasked with a machete to enforce the God Emperor's will.

Anonymous kfg January 30, 2017 11:34 AM  

" . . . agencies to cut two existing regulations for every new rule introduced."

Pinch me, I must be dreaming.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 30, 2017 11:35 AM  

I had heard rumors of this last week and it is a genius stroke. EPA wants to clamp down on CO2 or flouride? what are they doing to do? Give up regulating Lead or Mercury? The best part is it pins the blame on the very people who would be screaming the loudest. The entrenched bureaucracy.

Blogger Rusty Fife January 30, 2017 11:37 AM  

Rory wrote:Would gladly be tasked with a machete to enforce the God Emperor's will

Weak sauce. We have people lining up to use crusafixes to enforce The Emperor's will.

Blogger Shimshon January 30, 2017 11:41 AM  

H1B delenda est.

Anonymous CC January 30, 2017 11:42 AM  

I knew he'd be good. I just didn't think he'd be this good. Another inspired move.

Blogger pyrrhus January 30, 2017 11:45 AM  

Now for an across the board "Sunset" law or EO.....

Blogger YIH January 30, 2017 11:46 AM  

OT: Two days ago there was this: Jews are the enemy of "Old Europe".
Most of the comments on that thread were ''It's RT, it's BS'' or ''Who is this Rabbi? I've never heard of him, no one's ever heard of him!''
Then there's this: 1,700+ Rabbis Sign National Letter Calling for Welcoming Refugees. Sounds a little less like a lone crackpot.

Blogger Shimshon January 30, 2017 11:48 AM  

I have never watched even a tiny bit of reality TV. But on Day 11 of the Greatest Show on Earth, I have to say, I now understand the attraction. An Oval Office Cam would be cool, and the most-watched live stream in history.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2017 11:49 AM  

Hey, hey, hey those rabbis are my "fellow white people" who have nominated themselves to be my racial representation and yes "we" whites (not the good whites rabbis) are bad, bad, bad and we deserve our treatment as the Progressive Caste System meets out.

Blogger The Kurgan January 30, 2017 11:52 AM  

It's like Christmas every single day! Thank you God-Emperor Trump!

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 11:52 AM  

Then there's this: 1,700+ Rabbis Sign National Letter Calling for Welcoming Refugees. Sounds a little less like a lone crackpot.

@15 YIH
The people bitching the loudest about not letting in Muslims are Jews. Not even middle-aged feminasties are as shrill and vehement about it as the Tribe.

Every. Single. Time.

Blogger Shimshon January 30, 2017 11:53 AM  

Thread hijack in 15 comments. Seriously?

Blogger Matt January 30, 2017 11:57 AM  

Vox is about to squee

Blogger Lazarus January 30, 2017 11:59 AM  

In November, there where incessant calls for Trump to dump Bannon.

His response?

On Saturday night, President Trump signed an executive order promoting Chief Strategist Steve Bannon to the “principals committee” of the National Security Council — while, according to the New York Times, downgrading the roles of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence, who will now attend only when the council is considering issues in their direct areas of responsibilities. The move puts Bannon, a former Navy surface warfare officer, admiral’s aide, investment banker and media executive, on the same level as Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn.

Blogger lowercaseb January 30, 2017 12:00 PM  

Dare I say It's morning in America?

Actually, I can't say that...I live in California, but those of you in America can say it.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 12:00 PM  

It's a great notion, but when the size of the Federal Register declines Y-o-Y by 50% I'll believe it.

The future is contraction, though. The FedGov won't decrease in size without an epic battle.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 12:00 PM  

Finally, a president who doesn't constantly make me think, "Why doesn't he just do this?" He's doing "this" left and right.

Blogger tz January 30, 2017 12:02 PM  

And the SJW virtue signalling continues to blow up
Delete Uber because they were effectively breaking the NYC cabbie strike at JFK.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 30, 2017 12:02 PM  

So God-Emperor Trump, being a true Son of Jupiter, is going to need a temple. I say we dynamite that gauche Lincoln Memorial and build it there.

Then we can begin the ritual sacrifices of His Imperial Majesty's enemies.

Anonymous Mark Auld January 30, 2017 12:03 PM  

Meanwhile the Left is not taking it lying down,this could become a bloody struggle real fast.Both in the U.S. and the U.K.,it's getting ugly. Hope Le Pen brings France to our side.

Anonymous aegis-1080 January 30, 2017 12:07 PM  

"Now to cancel all the H1B visas...."

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/trumps-next-executive-order-draft-to-target-tech-companies.html?__source=twitter

""Our country's immigration policies should be designed and implemented to serve, first and foremost, the U.S. national interest," the draft says, according to a copy obtained by Bloomberg.

"Visa programs for foreign workers … should be administered in a manner that protects the civil rights of American workers and current lawful residents, and that prioritizes the protection of American workers — our forgotten working people — and the jobs they hold," the draft states.

Trump's order affects a number of visa programs including H-1B, L-1, E-2, and B1. H-1B visas that are commonly used among tech companies to recruit high-skilled workers from overseas when they can't find domestic talent to fill positions."

The God-Emperor works fast.

Blogger Some Guy January 30, 2017 12:09 PM  

I love watching morning joe on msnbc right now. They literally have no idea how to report on the God-Emperor. I can't wait for the initial shock and awe to end and see how they decide to proceed from there.

Blogger Ken Prescott January 30, 2017 12:11 PM  

E Deploribus MAGA!

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction January 30, 2017 12:13 PM  

I just read the following today:

Trump announced that Lockhead Martin agreed to cut $ 600 million from the F25.

He called out Cuck schummer for his fake tears.

I haven't even had my morning coffee yet....and wew lad!

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 30, 2017 12:15 PM  

H1B's are only supposed to be used when you can't find an American who can do the job. Silicon Valley has *never* abided by that. They pervert it in a way that's doubly foul. First, they use it to replace Americans or to not hire Americans at all. Second, once they have the H1B immigrant in place, they got him by the balls. He's their de facto indentured servant at that point.

Who is going to cry tears for such tyrants as the Silicon Valley billionaires? Not me. Hell no, not me!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2017 12:19 PM  

I'm pretty sure my local Indian owned liquor store is hiring H something or another. "ZOMG Literally Hitler is going to have booze rotting on the shelves!"

Anonymous ZhukovG January 30, 2017 12:20 PM  

President Trump has just told John Mccain and Miss Lindsey Graham that they basically suck on immigration and that they need to do their jobs instead of trying to start WWIII.

Anonymous aegis-1080 January 30, 2017 12:21 PM  

Shitlibs know that "jobs Americans won't do" is just BS from wanna-be slave owners when it comes to SV tech lords, but is A-OK when it comes to farms and factories because the ones affected are those icky rural white people that deserve to be rendered extinct for the original sin of white guilt.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 30, 2017 12:24 PM  

Ask those 15k rabbis about opening the borders of Israel to all comers, and having the government bring in "Syrian" refugees by the planeload. See how that goes over.

Blogger Dave January 30, 2017 12:32 PM  

Two for One could work for a lot of things. Want to add a new department or program? Gotta cut two.

Each gov't employee now will have to do the work of two employees without an increase in pay or benefits. It's Two for One.

Blogger David Power January 30, 2017 12:44 PM  

God Emperor elected
His policies unfurled
Illegals barred and ejected
Alt-right's with the world

Anonymous hoots January 30, 2017 12:44 PM  

Two for one would be an excellent immigration policy. Wanna admit one refugee? Gotta repatriate two.

Anonymous Siobhan January 30, 2017 12:47 PM  

There are some very highly paid very skilled foreign programmers at Google. They don't seem to be abused indentured servants. That said, to keep the best, Google would probably pay a high annual visa fee as previously suggested.

Blogger Phat Repat January 30, 2017 12:51 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:It's a great notion, but when the size of the Federal Register declines Y-o-Y by 50% I'll believe it.

The future is contraction, though. The FedGov won't decrease in size without an epic battle.


The Gov, Federal/State/Local, has no choice but to downsize. And that goes for entitlements and many other wasteful programs in the US.

We have some severe challenges ahead that will test us to our very core, and many won't make it through. But at the end, we'll be that much stronger for it. Godspeed.

Blogger haus frau January 30, 2017 12:54 PM  

@35 "President Trump has just told John Mccain and Miss Lindsey Graham that they basically suck on immigration and that they need to do their jobs instead of trying to start WWIII."

A staunch cuckservative of my acquaintance is crying bitter tears about this and pretty much every action Trump has taken since election into his Facebook feed. It's hilariously myopic. He campaigned for Santorum, not that anyone remembers Santorum running for the nomination last year. Reading all the posts about cuckservatives on this blog I know I shouldn't be surprised and yet I am continually amazed at this guy's persistence in turning victory into yet a another sign of the impending TrumpenDoom, mainly because Trump does not respond to leftist street fighting by insisting on playing by Marquis de Queensberry rules because muh principles. sigh. It's just bizarrely pigheaded and once again, myopic.

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner January 30, 2017 12:56 PM  

I have never watched even a tiny bit of reality TV. But on Day 11 of the Greatest Show on Earth, I have to say

ITs actually coming so fast we might miss something good.

The verb form of 'trump' is going to make a big time comeback.

Don't tell MILO that Queens TRUMP Spades.

The people bitching the loudest about not letting in Muslims are Jews

Every gay pride festival has a new movie about a(usually older) jew falling in love with an arab rent boy. They drank their own kool aid because it's free. For all the movies they made about it you would think no one was breeding in Israel.

Thread hijack in 15 comments. Seriously?

David the Good's new book about Juuuuuuuuuuice.

local Indian owned liquor store is hiring H something or another. "ZOMG Literally Hitler is going to have booze rotting on the shelves!"

Sounds like a job for BLM's SuperLootie

The Gov, Federal/State/Local, has no choice but to downsize. And that goes for entitlements and many other wasteful programs in the US

Thanks to the 3rd world invasion Mitt was wrong about 47% paying taxes as it counted people on government makework jobs.

Blogger Phat Repat January 30, 2017 12:56 PM  

Siobhan wrote:There are some very highly paid very skilled foreign programmers at Google. They don't seem to be abused indentured servants. That said, to keep the best, Google would probably pay a high annual visa fee as previously suggested.

Google can get bent; and so can many other companies that have displaced capable American talent for mostly nefarious reasons. There may be an avenue for extremely gifted individuals, but I submit, those same homegrown individuals exist but they haven't been pushed or tested as of yet; they will be.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 30, 2017 12:57 PM  

ZhukovG @27: "So God-Emperor Trump, being a true Son of Jupiter, is going to need a temple. I say we dynamite that gauche Lincoln Memorial and build it there."

Nah, Trump is a New Yorker through-and-through; he's only in DC for the job.

Tear down the mosque at Ground Zero and build it there, instead.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 12:59 PM  

Even the few highly skilled H1-Bs depress the market on the whole, because everyone has to move down a peg.

The funny thing is, there's this thing called the Internet now, which makes it pretty easy for people doing most IT work to do it from anywhere. There's no reason companies like Google and Facebook can't hire these foreign geniuses in their own countries. In theory, companies should prefer that, because the wages would be even lower. But they've tried and that doesn't work very well. Supervisors don't want to move there to supervise them; and they aren't under control of the H1-B system there, so they can get some experience and then go to a competitor for a few pennies more. Turnover is extremely high. That's why they want to bring them here, even for jobs where physical presence isn't necessary: control.

Blogger dh January 30, 2017 1:21 PM  

There are some very highly paid very skilled foreign programmers at Google. They don't seem to be abused indentured servants. That said, to keep the best, Google would probably pay a high annual visa fee as previously suggested.


All these tech companies abuse the worker supply system because they don't want to have to retrain, they socialize that cost onto taxpayers, and then just churn. Google is notoriously bad with this. They import people for some stupid project to pretend they aren't an advertising company, and then they go nowhere with it, and shut it down. Instead of re-using those people on the next stupid project, they get rid of them all, and build new teams for the next stupid project.

There is no shortage of IT people, but there is a shortage of IT people who are willing to move to California's most expensive markets, live like paupers on a six-figure salary while still spending 50% of income on housing and transportation, and put up with the absurd pie-in-the-sky cult behavior of these idiots. That's the true limitation. No one past a certain age or with a certain value wants to disrupt their live to go make some shitty app that is going to fail.

H1B's paper over the fact these companies don't have a viable business and that if they had to attract real American workers and professionals they'd have to pay dramatically more, relocate to a sensible part of the country, or generally be better employers. Free perks designed to trap you on campus only work when the workers has nothing to go home to. The employer who tried to lure me with that was shocked to find that I have a wife whose at home, right now, preparing my dinner with actual homemade products, not artisinal pasta imported from Sri Lanka, but pasta made fresh today, with sauce made from tomatoes she grew, and cheese from our goat, and butter from our neighbors cow.

Anonymous vfm #0202 January 30, 2017 1:39 PM  

I could retire, but without H1Bs I've got another 10-15 productive years. With them, it's just not worth it being a traveling coder.

Anonymous BBGKB January 30, 2017 1:40 PM  

anywhere. There's no reason companies like Google and Facebook can't hire these foreign geniuses in their own countries

Because of the average IQ in India there are still rolling power brownouts.

Blogger YIH January 30, 2017 1:56 PM  

Back on topic:
a deplorable rubberducky wrote:H1B's are only supposed to be used when you can't find an American who can do the job. Silicon Valley has *never* abided by that. They pervert it in a way that's doubly foul. First, they use it to replace Americans or to not hire Americans at all. Second, once they have the H1B immigrant in place, they got him by the balls. He's their de facto indentured servant at that point.

Who is going to cry tears for such tyrants as the Silicon Valley billionaires? Not me. Hell no, not me!

It's become SOP for Microsoft, Apple, faceberg, ect. to put ads on Linkdin, Craigslist, and SF papers for ''IT specialist'' and either rejecting any and all US citizen responses out of hand or setting qualifications so high (Master's in CompSci, 10+ years experience in IT/coding, ect) that there are virtually no US citizens that can jump through all those hoops.
Then they whine ''We tried, but we couldn't find any Americans who can do what we need!'' and there you go, another H1b.

Anonymous bobdobbs January 30, 2017 1:57 PM  

Shimshon wrote:I have never watched even a tiny bit of reality TV. But on Day 11 of the Greatest Show on Earth, I have to say, I now understand the attraction. An Oval Office Cam would be cool, and the most-watched live stream in history.

White House Webcam - The Oval Office

http://whitehouse.gov1.info/webcam/oval.htm

Say no more.

Anonymous bobdobbs January 30, 2017 2:00 PM  

I really mean that. Say no more.
Really don't blame me if you didn't look at the url.

Blogger Otto Lamp January 30, 2017 2:15 PM  

H1B has the same purpose as illegal immigration: supression of wages.

There are enough US tech workers to meet demand, but without H1B they would be making 30% more.

Blogger Knight Of the Realm January 30, 2017 2:18 PM  

Love a the winning! I usually can't wait for the next day to see what the Emperor tweets; I then channel surf and google so I can see all the liberal hair as it ignites!

Blogger Otto Lamp January 30, 2017 2:23 PM  

Trump should make this a "women in tech" issue.

Why should we bring in H1Bs to take women's tech jobs.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 2:28 PM  

Not my area of expertise, but my two sons who have degrees in Comp Sci and work in the Business Technology division of a fairly major corporation tell me programming is basically scut-work, and that once a system has been designed, the nuts and bolts of programming it is delegated to 1) a low level employee or 2) an off-shore employee/contractor.

These are Millennials who are still early-career, and they already do not do programming (with minor exceptions, like writing an example of what they are assigning.)

Other industries/employers/etc may be different, but it seems that pulling people into the USA to do "programming" is the high-tech version of "who will wash the dishes if we don't have Mestizos?"

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 2:35 PM  

H1B has the same effect at the upper end of wages as H2B (and Sanctuary Cities) have for the low end of wages:

All of this has been a massive conspiracy to hide what otherwise is the largest credit inflation in history.

Normally, a massive increase in the quantity of "money" (available credit, mostly) would see prices rise across the board and Joe Blow would call it "inflation."

This time, due to off-shoring manufacturing & wage suppression by immigration, the prices for goods and services didn't rise. All that rose were asset prices, and those price increases are limited only by the avarice-soaked imaginations of speculators (aka investors.)

When wages rise, someone gains, someone suffers. When prices for food or fuel rise, someone gains and someone suffers.

When asset prices rise, EVERYONE appears to gain. NO One appears to lose.

Now you know why wage and consumer goods prices have been mercilessly suppressed for decades. It was THE linchpin to eliminating opposition to Fed-enabled credit creation, which then allowed politicians to spend without limit because the need to tax was eliminated.

It will eventually cause a Mt. Vesuvius/Pompeii level of catastrophe, but apparently Not Quite Yet.

Blogger Shimshon January 30, 2017 2:55 PM  

Slightly OT. Any thoughts on sidelining Flynn and the others in the NSC and promoting Bannon? My first take is that Flynn was a placeholder to distract the deep state while he rebuilds the intel apparatus "without columns," as it were.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 30, 2017 3:01 PM  

they socialize that cost onto taxpayers

@48 dh
Socializing costs onto the public/taxpayers (whether of the monetary profit kind or the virtue-signaling feelz kind) is the biggest part of what got us Trump in the first place.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 3:20 PM  

@57, it depends on the task. The holy grail of management is to turn all programming into factory work that can be broken down into small tasks that can be done by interchangeable code monkeys, but many projects don't work well that way.

Even when it does, one problem with outsourcing all the low-level work is that there's nothing for new programmers to do to build experience. Many coders of my generation got started by hacking on their own machines in the 80s, and then got paid work doing early Internet stuff or custom work for small businesses, and worked their way up to bigger stuff, with little or no college needed. If there's no entry-level work that can be done for a living wage, everyone's forced to get a CS degree and try to jump straight to higher-level work or management. That's a waste in a lot of ways.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 30, 2017 3:22 PM  

@35 ZhukovG
President Trump has just told John Mccain and Miss Lindsey Graham that they basically suck on immigration and that they need to do their jobs instead of trying to start WWIII.
---

I was almost crying with laughter when I read those tweets last night from God Emperor Trump :P

Blogger Otto Lamp January 30, 2017 3:29 PM  

We have a great opportunity to split the left with the H1B issue.

95% of tech H1B are MALE.

It is easy to make the case that H1Bs are keeping women out of tech (because it's true).

I'm trying to get a hashtag going, but haven't found a catchy one yet.

I've been on Twitter replying to pro H1B tweets that they are women hating mysoginist.

http://insights.dice.com/2013/06/25/h-1b-women-few-and-far-between/

Blogger dc.sunsets January 30, 2017 3:46 PM  

@61 Cali Corishev, If there's no entry-level work that can be done for a living wage, everyone's forced to get a CS degree and try to jump straight to higher-level work or management. That's a waste in a lot of ways.

Given how hard "someone"(?) seems to be working to get gradeschoolers into programming ("Hour of Code," stuff like that, and the HYUGE effort Khanacademy.org expends on teaching programming) I think there's a move afoot to flesh out low level programming as a replacement for factory work.

It won't work, of course. Maybe it's part of the "everyone can learn calculus" Universalist sacrament.

Blogger Cail Corishev January 30, 2017 4:07 PM  

@64, You're right, it won't work. Programming has gotten harder, not easier. I could teach an average student to program in the BASIC we used in the 80s, because it did so little that you spent a lot of time putting low-level concepts together to make anything useful. Modern, high-level languages do so much of the easy, low-level stuff for you that you spend all your time on the higher-level abstract stuff that not many people can handle.

Blogger Otto Lamp January 30, 2017 4:08 PM  

IMHO, you need an above average IQ (over 120) to code at a professional level.

Only 10% of the US population meets that standard, so the everyone codes effort is doomed to fail.

On the plus side, there are 33 million Americans with the sufficient IQ. A plenty large enough pool to meet our needs.

Blogger Avalanche January 30, 2017 4:08 PM  

#33 "H1B's are only supposed to be used when you can't find an American who can do the job."

Well, so at least that fat old indian slime who was using H1Bs to import "untouchable" caste prepubescent girls for sexual 'use' (by himself and his filthy friends) was (seemingly?) importing children to do the work American children wouldn't... Oh, wait... pizzagate... Never mind...)

(What? You haven't yet read Coulter's "Adios America"? Catch up!)

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 30, 2017 4:13 PM  

Freaking awesome. I've often thought that every government needs a legislation assassination squad, but making the agencies nuke their own power base is beautifully machiavellian.

At the BBC they're even writing about Trump in the Sports pages. He's not merely living rent free; now they're paying him to live in their heads.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 30, 2017 5:24 PM  

I can't wait to see whose head Trump shaves first as President. I hope it's Paul Ryan.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor January 30, 2017 5:25 PM  

Better: Angela Merkel

Anonymous vales3 January 30, 2017 5:33 PM  

This has been something talked about for years in various circles but I never thought I'd see the day when something like this was ever going to be put into effect by a sitting President. LOVE IT!

Anonymous the management January 30, 2017 7:37 PM  

Thanks for the laugh, MM. Steve Sailer would be proud.

Anonymous the management January 30, 2017 7:45 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:I'm pretty sure my local Indian owned liquor store is hiring H something or another. "ZOMG Literally Hitler is going to have booze rotting on the shelves!"

Thanks for the laugh, MM. Steve Sailer would be proud.

Blogger Jose January 30, 2017 8:07 PM  

No doubt that the H-1B visa is abused by many corporations to get a compliant workforce at a fraction of the cost. It might even be its most attractive property to those corporations.

But...

But some of the examples (say in Michelle Malkin's recent book) are specious. Two cases, of which much has been said and little has been thought:

"Old american engineers being replaced by young Indian engineers" - This sounds bad, but in many cases the old engineers aren't just old, they're outdated. I have met electrical engineers who are 50 and haven't learned anything new since they were 20; this is their fault, as it takes but 1hr/week to keep up reasonably well.

They also get replaced by young american engineers, it just doesn't make the same headlines. In a dynamic field, you stop learning, you risk employability.

A longer analysis of this particular problem: http://sitacuisses.blogspot.com/2016/10/aging-engineers-versus-experienced.html

(Yes, some of them are being replaced because the Indian or younger engineers are cheaper. See above; we're in the "that's not the whole story" part.)

"There are plenty of engineers in the US" - There are plenty of people with engineering degrees, that's true, but once you're off the top 10-20 schools, in the so-called "teaching" schools (meaning not research institutions), where faculty live and die by their "teaching evaluations" (i.e. popularity ratings given by the students), how much do you think students are going to be _forced_ to learn?

Hint: not much. When you can get a B in computer programming without ever writing a program that passes a compiler syntax check, your computer science degree is basically a lie. (True story.)

Whereas in Asia and Europe it's still possible to fail a student who doesn't know the material, in the US the worst that can happen is that student gets a B. If the professor is willing to take the risk that the student will complain about bad pedagogy.

(Oh the stories I could tell, from academia and recruiting, but then this would be a 40,000-word comment.)

Anonymous Satan's Hamster January 30, 2017 8:39 PM  

"Trump should make this a "women in tech" issue."

Or a fairness issue.

How is it fair for America to steal all these bright and talented tech staff from countries which need them far more than America does? Imagine how much richer the poor in their own countries would be if they were building new tech companies there, rather than increasing Google's profits.

It's even worse when importing doctors. People are dying in their home countries because they've been shipped to America instead.

Immigration must end to protect the world from predatory American employers.

Blogger Cassandros the Elder January 30, 2017 8:41 PM  

In theory, companies should prefer [offshoring of coders], because the wages would be even lower. But they've tried and that doesn't work very well.

Ding, ding, ding!

I've come to believe that offshoring to India is a leading indicator that a company is going down. But business guys can't help themselves when they find out Indian coders work for pennies on the dollar. They just never learn.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster January 30, 2017 8:43 PM  

Oh, and, don't forget, killing the H1B visa will bring Trump a lot of votes in California. If he gets rid of the illegals and cleans up electoral fraud, he could well carry the state in the next election.

And wouldn't that make left-wing heads implode...

Blogger Harold January 30, 2017 9:47 PM  

Trump's order affects a number of visa programs including H-1B, L-1, E-2, and B1. H-1B visas are commonly used among tech companies to recruit high-skilled workers from overseas when they can't find domestic talent to fill positions.

No place in the original article to comment or I'd make a correction, to when they're not willing to pay domestic talent to fill positions.

AS far as importing Indian engineers- I have yet to meet a professional engineer in the field who has anything but disdain for them. If it's not in the book they learned from- they can't figure it out. They can copy and paste designs. AS a plant operator, I've had opportunity to meet a few overseas trained engineers. They know less about system operation then I do without a degree. Not to mention the communications difficulty talking technical stuff with someone speaking English as a second language. Oh, the other thing I've heard from all engineers and secretaries who've had close dealing with Indian imports is they stink. Literally. I've never gotten close enough to tell.

The medical practice I was going to lost a young American doctor because his wife wanted to move to another state, so they did. They replaced him with an Indian import. After the second visit, my wife and found another medical practice to do business with. Again, we wanted someone who spoke English as a first language. Doesn't matter how brilliant a doctor is (and I question his brilliance) if he can't understand what the patient is telling him. Not only does my current doctor, close to my age, understand me, he actually listens to me.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 30, 2017 10:56 PM  

Holy shit.

The Trumperor addicted the bureaucracy to lossy self-cannabalism? Hell yes.

Blogger Slim934 January 31, 2017 10:19 AM  

It worked for the Canadians. Some province did this until they cut about 40% of the regulations, then they swapped to a 1-for-1. He should go further and put a total page number ceiling on the code of federal regulations. Current count is close to 100,000 pages. He should start by putting a ceiling of 10,000 pages on it and direct the regulatory agencies to prioritize.

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