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Thursday, February 23, 2017

A sympathetic call

Unsurprisingly, Stefan Molyneux has one of the more intelligent and sympathetic takes on the Milo takedown, and while I don't concur with all of his conclusions, I note that he draws attention to an important element that most people, myself included, may have missed. I think Stefan is probably right to see this as the most significant aspect of the whole situation, and that Milo has the opportunity to transform what has been a terrible time for him into his finest moment if he is willing and able to do what so many before him have not, and name the names of those who have been, and probably still are, preying on young men and boys today.

It's a very powerful observation: "You can still protect the children of the future from the predators of the past."


That being said, there is a reason that so many who have been witness to such ugliness, from Elijah Wood to Corey Feldman and Allison Arngrim, have not been specific, and are reluctant to identify the responsible parties. What that reason may be, I don't know, but I think it would be absolutely wrong for those of us who have not been victimized to demand that Milo do what those others could not. What we can and should do, however, is to continue to offer our unconditional support for him, and encourage him to listen to his conscience and to speak the truth without fear, whatever it might be.

I would be remiss if I did not mention that another survivor of child abuse, Moira Greyland, the daughter of confirmed child molesters Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley, was one of many Castalia authors who emailed me to offer her support for Milo.

I know you're busy. Can you let Milo know I am pulling for him and so are a crowd of other writers over here?

She also wrote a piece that can be read here. As adults, we are, in part, the consequences of the childhood experiences that shaped us. We all bear the psychological scars, and not infrequently from experiences we thought were positive at the time. Think of the narcissistic attention-seeker who has never recovered from being the pretty girl in 7th grade, or the glory-days jock who simply can't move past the game in which he scored four touchdowns, for example. But some of us were shaped in more difficult and dangerous molds than others.
When I grew up there were five little boys that I knew—all from different family circumstances, all of them, bright and smart and fun. One of them was my first official crush, and I must have been all of five years old, and so was he. There was a snow pile in the schoolyard, and we were king and queen of the mountain. The others I knew, too, and I even “dated” two of them, even though date is a chaste word. Once it was ice-skating and once it was a movie. We were always friends, but dating wasn’t in the cards, for what is now obvious reasons. But then it wasn’t obvious.

I learned later that when these little boys were little, they were visited upon by a friend, an older male, someone perhaps who was attracted to their brightness and wit.

They were funny boys. They knew what the convention was, and they tried to form attachments to girls. But they weren’t able to overcome what had happened. They felt that their lot in life was settled, that the map to their destiny was drawn by someone else, without their having a say in the matter.

Four of those little boys are now dead. Three died very young, one older but still young. One a suicide, and the others in situations that were brought on or complicated by The Disease. None of them married. None of them had children. They left their mothers behind, questioning, grieving, inconsolable, loving. Think of it: five families were prevented from being formed.
This is precisely why I reject the notion that homosexuality is to be celebrated any more than drug addiction or smoking is. Some of you may recall that my band, Psykosonik, was signed to Wax Trax! Records. What you may not know is that the men who signed us to their label, Jim and Dannie, were both gay. Jim died at 47, less than three years after signing us. Dannie died in 2010, at the age of 58.

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Anonymous Avalanche February 23, 2017 10:41 PM  

@123 "The implications I am hearing here is a claim that early child abuse leads to homosexuality and not some other genetic or other natural occurring disposition."

Milo himself says in some of his speeches (which are great, by the way!) that the whole "gayness is biological" claim was a ruse to get the conservatives to back off blaming the gays... If it WERE 'nature' then the laws that protect various "disabled" might be useful (and seem to have ended up so).

Milo firmly disclaims the innate/biological "cause" of homosexuality. I think he's partly right and partly wrong: there are hints and trends: IF it is often the case (as it seems to be) that the younger/youngest son in a line of sons 'comes out gay'(or gay-ish) -- there could be a possibility of the mother's body reacting with antibodies against "yet another" y-chromosome taking up residence.

Just as organ transplants are rejected, or rejection is avoided by suppressing the immune system with drugs, the mother's body could be fighting Mother Nature -- she WANTS more babies and doesn't care if the one-more-Y is screwing up the immune reactions.

Or, it could be a misfiring of the prenatal androgen washes needed to convert the "neuter" fetus (they no longer think it's "female-turned-to-male" but "neuter turned to male or female" depending on prenatal events. (This, logically enough, actually DOES lead to the "female brain in a male body" and the reverse... If the fetus doesn't get the right "soup" (or gets too much of the wrong soup!) -- then the fetus may not make it all the way to the right 'brain' to go with the genitals!)

There is more in heaven and earth, Horatio... than is dreamt of in your biology!

Anonymous Avalanche February 23, 2017 10:51 PM  

@146 " He's a champion for free speech, but he would never be fully embraced."

And Milo knows this -- and fights for us because more than anything he wants WESTERN CIV to survive! No shooting to the right!

Blogger John Wright February 23, 2017 11:12 PM  

@119
Thank you. You pay me the only compliment I truly crave to hear: that in your candid judgment, my words are reasonable.

Blogger Lazarus February 23, 2017 11:23 PM  

Clay The Swamp Spartan wrote:Drop "Milo" off the radar. His shit is done. Forget him.

I remember that same line when Elvis got drafted and had to be posted in Germany.

Sure, it wasn't the same, but it wasn't over. Milo could play Vegas eventually.

Blogger Lazarus February 23, 2017 11:26 PM  

John Wright wrote:@119

Thank you. You pay me the only compliment I truly crave to hear: that in your candid judgment, my words are reasonable.


I am sure I speak for many others that 119 is not the only one. Your perspective on this whole thing is inspiring.

As a former atheist, you have zeroed in on the most relevant point.

Anonymous Anonymous February 24, 2017 1:07 AM  

Maybe Milo has accepted Jesus as his lord and savior. Stopping the sin is usually a process. How many Christian men still masterbate to porn? Are they condemned? Is so, that is an awful lot of false believers. Pray for the guy. My closest friend on the police force prior to the army went through the same scenario. I loved the guy like a brother even though he still struggled with it.

Blogger Lone Catholic February 24, 2017 1:55 AM  

DeploraBard wrote:How many Christian men still masterbate to porn? Are they condemned?

Yes, they are condemned. Lust and impurity are mortal sins, and will bar one from entering Heaven.

But it's actually easy to stop committing those sins, if one embraces the traditional Catholic faith.

Anonymous brentg February 24, 2017 3:02 AM  

Yes, they are condemned. Lust and impurity are mortal sins, and will bar one from entering Heaven.

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I hope Paul or Peter didn't rub one out just before they died...

Blogger Mountain Man February 24, 2017 9:03 AM  

"How many Christian men still masterbate to porn?"

Especially when their wives get fat and don't put out

Anonymous Avalanche February 24, 2017 6:22 PM  

@163 " But Milo himself shares some blame as well. At 13, he should have known that the abuse was both criminal and wrong."

Ah. So, clearly, you don't have children, and have never loved or cared for any? No experience with the child-brain, which is NOT fully formed until the early to mid 20s? No COMPASSION (you ever-so-staunch Christian?!) for a young person who has been raised to behave and do what adults tell him or her?! But oh, no YOU just know for sure (that at 13) you could have held off a loved and respected PRIEST?! Someone CHARGED with teaching children?! And whom the CHILDREN are charged to "do what Father Mike says, and learn from what he teaches you"?!

How do you expect a 13-yr-old to KNOW that when the PRIEST your parents entrust you to says: "do this" he is to say "YES Father" to SOME things -- but "no, you're a criminal and an abuser" to other things?!




Anonymous Avalanche February 24, 2017 6:24 PM  

@Some Dude
"2 jew plants sig heiling"

@Francis Parker Yockey
"That's "2 jew plants and a Vietnamese woman"

That's "2 jew plants and a Vietnamese pron star"

Anonymous Sigmond February 24, 2017 6:25 PM  

Not prepared to defend your words.. by the rules of the blog comply or leave... just kidding.. you have already replied in your silence.

Blogger Lone Catholic February 24, 2017 9:43 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@163
Ah. So, clearly, you don't have children, and have never loved or cared for any? No experience with the child-brain, which is NOT fully formed until the early to mid 20s? No COMPASSION (you ever-so-staunch Christian?!) for a young person who has been raised to behave and do what adults tell him or her?! But oh, no YOU just know for sure (that at 13) you could have held off a loved and respected PRIEST?! Someone CHARGED with teaching children?! And whom the CHILDREN are charged to "do what Father Mike says, and learn from what he teaches you"?!

How do you expect a 13-yr-old to KNOW that when the PRIEST your parents entrust you to says: "do this" he is to say "YES Father" to SOME things -- but "no, you're a criminal and an abuser" to other things?!


"Not fully formed until the early to mid 20s?" Nonsense.

Children are not stupid. From an early age, they know they difference between good and evil. Once a child has reached the age of reason, he is able to make moral decisions, and to choose whether or not to reject God, and to sin mortally.

A normal 13 year-old would never even think of engaging in homosexuality, so foul is the act. And if he is a Catholic, he would know that homosexuality is a mortal sin that will send his soul to Hell.

Milo likely came from a disordered household where God and morals weren't taught much, if at all. In such a wicked setting, a child can choose perversion and become a homosexual (or transsexual).

Yes, the "priest" was wicked. He took advantage of a confused young boy, and was mostly to blame. But remember: Milo stated in his press conference that when the abuse started, he didn't think at the time that it was abuse. IOW he was not horrified or disgusted by what was done to him, and instead of running away and reporting it, he indulged in it. And so in punishment, God withdrew His grace and permitted him to fall into his shameful affections. (Romans 1:26)

True compassion is telling the truth to the homosexual, i.e., that he is sinning mortally, and that he can be cured of his homosexuality by embracing the traditional Catholic faith. If he does that, God will grant him the grace to be delivered from his perversion.

Blogger M. Simon February 25, 2017 6:43 AM  

Making War On Abused Children

Dr. Lonny Shavelson found that 70% of female heroin addicts had been sexually assaulted in childhood.



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