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Tuesday, February 07, 2017

Betsy DeVos confirmed

As Reaper of Education. But two Republican women have defied the God-Emperor's will and they will experience his wrath:
The Senate confirmed Betsy DeVos on Tuesday as education secretary, approving the embattled nominee only with the help of a historic tiebreaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence. The 51-to-50 vote elevates Ms. DeVos — a wealthy donor from Michigan who has devoted much of her life to expanding educational choice through charter schools and vouchers, but has limited experience with the public school system — to be steward of the nation’s schools.

Two Republicans voted against Ms. DeVos’s confirmation, a sign that some members of President Trump’s party are willing to go against him, possibly foreshadowing difficulty on some of the president’s more contentious legislative priorities.

It was the first time that a vice president has been summoned to the Capitol to break a tie on a cabinet nomination, according to the Senate historian. Taking the gavel as the vote deadlocked at 50-50, Mr. Pence, a former member of the House, declared his vote for Ms. DeVos before announcing that Mr. Trump’s nominee for education secretary had been confirmed.

The two Republicans who voted against the nominee, Senators Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, announced their opposition to her last week.
And by "possibly", they meant "we desperately hope".

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139 Comments:

Anonymous Reenay February 07, 2017 1:52 PM  

My teacher "friends" on Facebook oughta be pretty butt-blasted right now. I oughta start a business selling premium canned liberal tears as an Alt Right aphrodisiac.

Blogger Silly But True February 07, 2017 1:53 PM  

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski so sexist! Why do they hate women?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 07, 2017 1:55 PM  

Thank God.

Anonymous Hugh G. Gaines February 07, 2017 1:55 PM  

Applications for disparaging nicknames for Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski may now be submitted. I propose "Bitch 1" and "Bitch 2".

Blogger SouthRon February 07, 2017 1:56 PM  

What's the over-under on said Senatrixtors being replaced at the next election?

Anonymous Gecko February 07, 2017 1:57 PM  

If the opposition was because she previously supported Common Core, we shouldn't be surprised. Why shouldn't we be disappointed with this pick?

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 07, 2017 1:58 PM  

Why would a Susan of Maine and a Lisa from Alaska not want to be around this Betsy from Michigan? Is Betsy better looking? Nicer clothes? Wealthier?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 07, 2017 2:00 PM  

Because Betsy is an existential threat to the teachers ' unions, the NEA, and most importantly the stranglehold the Left has on education.

Blogger SouthRon February 07, 2017 2:02 PM  

Deplorable Winning, in short yes. They are all old but the Senators both always look pissed and perma-ugly from birth.

Anonymous Gecko February 07, 2017 2:03 PM  

I see no reason to believe that if she's either too dumb or too corrupt to fall for Common Core crap. I suspect Trump will end up firing her quickly.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 07, 2017 2:05 PM  

Yes, I too thought that DeVos was merely an average pick.

But by the 'they will show you who they fear' rule, she must be an avenging angel in the flesh.

The Gentle Hand of His Viceroy, Mike Pence, has brought her onto the battlefield. Let us hope our enemies follow her dictates, or face her crushing maul.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 07, 2017 2:07 PM  

SouthRon wrote:Deplorable Winning, in short yes. They are all old but the Senators both always look pissed and perma-ugly from birth.

Excellent, thank you. In the interest of hypothesis testing, I asked without looking.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 2:08 PM  

As soon as I saw the headline I said "Susan Collins" to myself. Murkowski too?

No surprised face.

Wanted: Primary challengers in Maine and Alasaka. GOPe experience neither necessary nor wanted. Must have never taken money from Soros directly or via cutouts.

Blogger Amigo February 07, 2017 2:09 PM  

Was it a safe time for Collins and Murkowski to virtue signal, knowing that Pence would still come in and break the tie?

Anonymous Faceless February 07, 2017 2:09 PM  

@5

The Maine Democrat-leaning independent King has voted with the Republicans on a couple nominations. I don't think Maine will strike back at Susan Collins except to replace her with a Democrat.

Alaska is more of a crazy mixed bag. They've fried their brains a little with the dope smoking up there; they primary challenged Murkowski last time, defeated her, and then they elected her as an independent (was she a write in?) on the statewide general ballot.

Blogger Mr. Michael Gualtieri February 07, 2017 2:09 PM  

When the article says that she "has limited experience with the public school system" It should read "has as absolutely no professional experience with any education system"

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 07, 2017 2:10 PM  

Ingot9455 wrote:The Gentle Hand of His Viceroy, Mike Pence, has brought her onto the battlefield. Let us hope our enemies follow her dictates, or face her crushing maul.

Each move God Emperor makes becomes the stuff of legend. Or at least a few lines in a ballad. This is how we know he is truly God Emperor.

Anonymous Faceless February 07, 2017 2:11 PM  

@11

Putting Ronna McDaniel (who has shed her "Romney" name for the move) at RNC and DeVos in education is a reward to the Michigan Republican Party for delivering the state, plain and simple. She's no great shakes, but she's red meat for MIGOP as "one of our own".

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus February 07, 2017 2:11 PM  

I apologise for going OT this early, but relating to VD's post from a couple of days ago about possible Pizzagate revelations, it might be instructive to note that Cracked.com (America's premier comedy site cum place where progs go to be told what to think) ran an article today entitled, "Everything You Need To Know About Pizzagate (Is Insane)" - I won't link and give them the incoming, you'll just have to dig it up.

Wonder if they got word that some Pizzagate revelations/arrests may be coming soon, and are trying to prepare the ground to give progs the arguments they need to "prove" that's it's all just right-wing paranoia and witch hunting?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 2:16 PM  

Since many people are so upset by the new Sec of Ed, next week's proposal should be to abolish the Dept. of Ed. Probably could get Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi to sign off on that, start the ball rolling.

Blogger Alexander February 07, 2017 2:16 PM  

DeVos is not the best of Trump's picks but it's the Department of Education, which is just a clearing house for progressively approved programs, gibs, money laundering, and social justice.

So as long as she's against that - and given the screeching I assume she is - then I'm not going to complain.


@14 Amigo

Collins is up for reelection in 2020. She (along with the other former female republican Senator from Maine) was always cucky, and the excuse was always better a sometimes Republican than an always Democrat.

Murkowski is a snake and just got reelected so is up in 2022.

In short, neither were in any danger of being run out of office over *this* decision, particularly as it didn't actually affect the outcome.

However, they should have been on thin ice for a long time, so if this grants leverage to marginalize them somewhat, I hope the GodEmperor sees fit to take it.

Anonymous Sam the Man February 07, 2017 2:16 PM  

I would like to see the Federal portion of each students aid package offered to the parents as a grant which they can apply to the school of their choice or something along those lines. The NEA and their ilk need to face competition. At the same time reduce the administrative requirements for schools. they should have a Principle, a school secretary and may be a nurse, the rest of the admin is redundant

Blogger Mighty Lou February 07, 2017 2:16 PM  

I have a question for anyone who may know: could a voucher be used by parents to send their child to a Christian school?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 07, 2017 2:19 PM  

Faceless wrote:@5

The Maine Democrat-leaning independent King has voted with the Republicans on a couple nominations. I don't think Maine will strike back at Susan Collins except to replace her with a Democrat.

Alaska is more of a crazy mixed bag. They've fried their brains a little with the dope smoking up there; they primary challenged Murkowski last time, defeated her, and then they elected her as an independent (was she a write in?) on the statewide general ballot.


She did win as a write in. There were some overt shenanigans like relaxing rules that have always been strictly enforced around proper spelling of her name. I suspect that there were many covert shenanigans as well. Her family has been a power house (read corrupt insiders) in the Republican party in Alaska for decades.

Anonymous Faceless February 07, 2017 2:24 PM  

@23

In theory, that's the goal. In practice, that's a fight.

First, it's going to vary by state, and, then, they have to look at the state constitution and its restrictions. The pure theory is, well, if we spend $10,000 on a student, could we give $8,000 to the parent and have them choose?

You can usually win with "Schools of Choice", where it's portable to any public school. You can sometimes win when it includes publicly-chartered charter schools. I think it's only been a mixed bag, depending on the state and locale and the success of the ACLU, to go to a private or religious school. It would be great if the Feds could improve that, but, I don't think the problem is always the federal government - sometimes it's anti-Catholic language in state laws and constitutions.

Blogger VD February 07, 2017 2:24 PM  

When the article says that she "has limited experience with the public school system" It should read "has as absolutely no professional experience with any education system"

You don't need any experience with a system in order to shut it down.

Anonymous Faceless February 07, 2017 2:25 PM  

@24

Thank you!

Blogger Basil Makedon February 07, 2017 2:25 PM  

In 2018 there are 33 seats up for grabs, 25 of which are held by Democrats. Unfortunately, it appears that neither Collins or Murkowski are up for reelection.

Of the eight Republicans seeking re-election, only Flake of AZ and Heller of NV are seen to be at risk. Heller apparently announced recently that he was going to seek reelection instead of going after the Gov.'s seat. I think it would be fair to conclude that he's read the tea leaves and sees himself winning.

In contrast, here are some of the Democrat contenders:

Nelson -- Fl. (T+1)
Donnelly -- Ind. (T+20)
McCaskill -- Mizzou. (T+19)
Tester -- Mont. (T+20)
Heitkamp -- ND (T+36)
Brown -- Oh. (T+9)
Casey -- Pa.(T+1)
Manchin -- W.Va. (T+42)
Baldwin -- Wis. (T+1)

All of these characters hail from states that were carried by Trump, though some by small margins.

A pick-up of 5 seats does not seem out of reach, though some of those vulnerable D's are very personally popular. Tester, in particular, has excelled at the Tom Daschale game of "conservative at home; socialist in DC." Manchin probably needs to switch parties if he wants to survive.

Blogger Scott February 07, 2017 2:27 PM  

Ho Ho. Time for the DoE to go.

Anonymous Just another commenter February 07, 2017 2:27 PM  

Good.
It figures that the Dems are against anyone who is pro-choice. It shows the tremendous consistency of their intellectual positions, and.... wait a minute...

Seriously, not a great pick, but if she can breakup the stranglehold on education by the statists, and get real school choice (50 states, 5000 laboratories of learning) going, it's a HUGE win. If she is ineffective, she's fired, so it's all good either way.

Now, if we can just get Murk and Coll to get primaried out of existence, it's all good.

Blogger praetorian February 07, 2017 2:28 PM  

Sooner or later we all need to take the final red pill and get woke on the FQ.

Blogger Alexander February 07, 2017 2:30 PM  

Ohio and Arizona: #woke states, but you wouldn't guess it from their state-wide elected officials.

Anonymous Just another commenter February 07, 2017 2:31 PM  

@16 - you cannot equate "not a paid employee supporting the current educational system" with "no experience with the system." She's been a school-choice advocate for a long time.

All you have to do is look at the freakouts and meltdowns during and after the election in schools nationwide by all the special snowflakes, who are products of K-12 and higher ed, to know their product (education) is total crap. They are emotionally and mentally fragile, unable to cope with adversity or diversity.

Anonymous Faceless February 07, 2017 2:35 PM  

@33

Maybe it's the Silicon Valley approach to things - what we need is somebody to disrupt things who has, as a selling point, no hand in the current failure.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 07, 2017 2:37 PM  

School choice is probably just about spreading the shit around. Without freedom of association it will be basically just chasing down whites.

Nuke the fucking thing

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 07, 2017 2:43 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:She did win as a write in. There were some overt shenanigans like relaxing rules that have always been strictly enforced around proper spelling of her name.

One example of that: ``Micky Mouse,'' in clear handwriting, was counted as a Murkowski vote. I knew several of Miller's observers, heard the stories day by day as the count progressed.

Anonymous genericviews February 07, 2017 2:45 PM  

...to be steward of the nation’s schools.

Since "the nation" doesn't have any schools (exceptions for the DoDDS system and some embassy schools), this isn't really a problem. Most schools in the USA belong to the States and counties or are private. There is no national education system. Thus there doesn't need to be a national HQ to run it.

Blogger Phelps February 07, 2017 2:46 PM  

http://phelps.donotremove.net/2017/02/betsy-devos/

Someone had to make it.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 07, 2017 2:54 PM  

@38 Wonderfully done. :)

Blogger pyrrhus February 07, 2017 2:56 PM  

@26 You don't need any experience with a system in order to shut it down.

In fact, it's probably essential not to have professional experience with the system. DeVos doesn't owe anyone in the system...

Anonymous True Conservative Who's Scared by Fascism February 07, 2017 2:57 PM  

First they came for Susan Collins and I said nothing...

Then they came for Lisa Murkowski...

Blogger pyrrhus February 07, 2017 3:03 PM  

Common Core must be axed...if DeVos opposes that, she will be a problem

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 07, 2017 3:03 PM  

She is rather pleasing to the eye, to confirm the other half of the hypothesis. And speaking of 5D interdimensional chess, "DeVos' brother, Erik Prince, founded Blackwater USA, a private security firm" https://infogalactic.com/info/Betsy_DeVos

Blogger Student in Blue February 07, 2017 3:04 PM  

@31. praetorian
Sooner or later we all need to take the final red pill and get woke on the FQ.

The... Finnish Question?

Like... why do they enjoy saunas so much?

Anonymous BBGKB February 07, 2017 3:05 PM  

Common Core must be axed

Deliberately trying to make it so Asian/white kids wont be able to do math in their heads & not having a single pic of a white girl next to a white boy was hard not to notice.

Blogger HanSolo February 07, 2017 3:05 PM  

And then they came for all the pussycons

https://spectator.org/the-pussycons-fret-about-donald-trump/

"Pussycons are excruciatingly sensitive to language."

"The hanky-clutching, cluck-clucking, tsk-tsking faction of the Conservative movement is in for a rough and bumpy ride over the next four to eight years."

"Pussycons are “embarrassed” by “bigotry” and “prejudice.” Yet they engage in it all the time. They worry that voter ID laws will keep African Americans from the polls, but isn’t it bigoted to assume that they are incapable of acquiring identification cards?"

Blogger VFM #7634 February 07, 2017 3:08 PM  

Murkowski won her last two elections with the help of Democrats, because for whatever reason, the Alaska Democrat Party has pretty much imploded.

And both Vermont and Maine have had notoriously liberal Republicans, with Susan Collins being sort of their last vestige.

From my meter read of prog sentiment, they have a particular emotional drive to control the education of the nation's children, and it's easy to see why: they need to brainwash them. If they lose that control, they're toast, long-term. The progs have been bitching more about DeVos than about anyone else Trump has picked for his Cabinet -- including Jeff Sessions -- and I suspect this existential threat to their idiot religion is the reason.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky February 07, 2017 3:11 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:School choice is probably just about spreading the shit around. Without freedom of association it will be basically just chasing down whites.

Nuke the fucking thing


I don't know how school choice would wind up affecting things, but as things are now what you fear is already happening. Next door to me in Prince William County, VA, they went through an absolutely absurd approval process trying to open a new school. The feds rejected the plans *SEVEN* times because they feared school wouldn't be die-verse enough.

Note, "majority-minority" schools are a dime a dozen around here, and a growing phenom. Whites are a newly minted minority in my particular district, which has been overrun by foreign invaders.

Blogger Alexander February 07, 2017 3:12 PM  

We've all been in the situation where some genetic dead end gloats that ultimately, you're still doomed because they're going to turn your kids.

But We SecEd Now.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 3:13 PM  

If the opposition was because she previously supported Common Core, we shouldn't be surprised.

Are you stupid enough to believe that's why these two liberal Repulican women voted against her, or do you think we are?

Was it a safe time for Collins and Murkowski to virtue signal, knowing that Pence would still come in and break the tie?

Most likely. I recall the Clarence Thomas vote. They decided they were going to confirm him, because they couldn't find any dirt to give them an excuse to Bork him. Then they had to figure out which Democrats most needed to vote yay or nay to help their reelection, and arranged for as many as possible to do that while still getting a 52-48 vote. (One extra vote as a buffer, in case someone went rogue.) That kind of horse-trading goes on a lot, though in this case it's probably not so much to please their constituents as to please themselves and their donors and friends.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 07, 2017 3:26 PM  

@50 The 'one extra vote' thing is also done because when someone wins by one vote, then all 51 people on the winning side can be characterized as 'the last vote' that allowed it to succeed.

So there's often horsetrading to prevent that 'last vote' action.

Blogger John Saunders February 07, 2017 3:27 PM  

There will be no consequences for those two.

Murkowski won her seat against the opposition of the Alaskan Republican Party - she won as a write-in candidate on NAME RECOGNITION because her family is the local political dynasty. She has more than made her bones and all on her own. She has an independent political base and is not open to easy or even difficult attack. She is immune.

Collins is a red seat in a blue state. She has to be given leniency to break with the Party just to maintain her seat. 80% allegiance for holding her seat and voting appropriately in leadership votes at the beginning of every Congress is acceptable. And DeVos was the most disposable of Trump's nameplate appointments, so letting Collins break ranks on this vote is no sacrifice.

Blogger Gaiseric February 07, 2017 3:27 PM  

Deplorable Winning wrote:Why would a Susan of Maine and a Lisa from Alaska not want to be around this Betsy from Michigan? Is Betsy better looking? Nicer clothes? Wealthier?
All of the above.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 3:28 PM  

DeVos has declared her opposition to Common Core; and Trump has vowed to trash it, so it wouldn't make much sense for him to hire a fan of it. As far as I can tell, the idea that she supported it was a NeverTrump obfuscation based on the fact that she served on foundations that supported it early on, when it was being presented as a voluntary standards system with local control.

I would burn down every school in the country, so I'm sure she's not going to thrill me. But the idea that she's a crypto-liberal who somehow fooled Trump into thinking she wants the opposite of what she really does.... That's just a variation on the tired "Trump is a crypto-liberal who fooled you" narrative that they can't even sell themselves anymore.

Blogger Mr. Excitement February 07, 2017 3:29 PM  

Reaper of Education? I prefer Minister of Training.

Hopefully this party line vote wakes some of the Cuckservatives up to the situation about "reaching across the aisle" and "bipartisanship" and "setting a new tone in Washington."

The Dems have been playing Bloodsport for decades.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 07, 2017 3:43 PM  

Ok, does anyone know what her views are on homeschooling? I know I'd love some of my tax money back to buy materials and such.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr February 07, 2017 3:47 PM  

Maybe we keep Common Core...but revise it.

Sample math question: A liberal reporter has a program on five days per week. If he tells three lies on each show, how many lies will he tell in one year?

Sample history question: Which political party made it a crime to criticize the Federal Government in the First World War? How does this compare to the activities of the Nazi Party in the 1930s?

Anonymous Discard February 07, 2017 4:00 PM  

23. Mighty Lou: No private school should ever accept vouchers. Take the Fed's money and you'll play their tune.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 07, 2017 4:14 PM  

Honestly, I don't really think she can accomplish much at Ed. Really the only useful thing you do with that entire department is shut it the hell down.

BUT...Betsy was the designated victim. She was the target. Devos was to be the token elimination that the Democrats were determined to give their base.

And they couldn't do it.

Anonymous Gecko February 07, 2017 4:16 PM  

If the opposition was because she previously supported Common Core, we shouldn't be surprised.

Are you stupid enough to believe that's why these two liberal Repulican women voted against her, or do you think we are?


Oh come on, I don't claim to keep up every detail of these matters but it's not THAT far out there. It's the primary point on which I've seen opposition to her from my connections in Michigan, so it wasn't unreasonable to assume it was a sail that had caught wind.

You're probably right in your analysis in comment #54, though. From the way people are reacting, you'd think she IS going to burn it all down. Would be a pleasant surprise for their fears to be justified.

Blogger Feather Blade February 07, 2017 4:23 PM  

Mighty Lou wrote:I have a question for anyone who may know: could a voucher be used by parents to send their child to a Christian school?

Depends on what strings the Fed attaches or can attach to the money. Often times, federal (or even state) money means that the school must meet government targets and quotas, use government curricula, submit to government inspection, and adhere to the last jot and tittle of federal law.

Which is why Christian schools with any self-preservation instinct at all have never accepted money from the government.

Anonymous Norm Conquest February 07, 2017 4:23 PM  

@56 "Ok, does anyone know what her views are on homeschooling? I know I'd love some of my tax money back to buy materials and such."

The tax money will come with strings on what to teach, it will have mandated tests and require parent certifications to teach. Her intention is to privatize schools -- profit making enterprises will want to stop you from homeschooling because thats a customer they dont get so they will push for rules that make it harder for you to do it .. With money comes control.

I would push for a tax deduction on school supplies -- some standard right off like $500 per school age kid --- and it should be to all parents HS or PS...

Blogger Alexander February 07, 2017 4:24 PM  

The Democrat party is reduced to declaring sporting events somehow represent competing ideologies and then declaring a victory at a game as a victory for multiculturalism and durqa invasions.

Unfortunately for them, the #Trump knows full well that you must fight the enemy on every front, even if you think the front is retarded, and so he has - in his 14D wisdom - ensured that #Winning takes place even inside liberals' own fantasies.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 4:24 PM  

@60, Yes it is that far out there. If you know anything at all about these two women, you know their problem with DeVos isn't that she's too liberal. They voted against her for the same reason all the Democrats did: they fear she will reduce federal involvement in education, and Common Core is the current battleground on that.

Anonymous David the Minion February 07, 2017 4:26 PM  

Time that these two ladies were 'primaried'.

Blogger Feather Blade February 07, 2017 4:29 PM  

I have to admit that what the fed has to do with school funding is beyond me... I always thought that government schools were paid for by property taxes collected from all residents of a school district, or at most by state tax monies collected from the residents of a state.

So the federal government mandating a top down solution for this seems... unreasonable.

But I suppose my info may be out of date.

Blogger George Moterverk February 07, 2017 4:37 PM  

@23

In theory yes, however it will depend on if you can afford the difference in tuition from the voucher. The vouchers politicians talk about can really be better described as coupons. When dealing with the local public school(zip code school in D.Ed speak) they actually have 3 different sources of income. The federal govt, the state govt, and what is called the Local Budget Option(LBO). The LBO is what allows for the "good public schools" that white people along with our Asian counterparts accomplish by bidding up property values in certain neighborhoods, those away from any dieversity. With the voucher program, you can take the federal portion of the zip code schools budget, and take it to any other school. However, any difference between the voucher and the rest of the per pupil cost is born by the parents of that voucher.

Anonymous BluePony February 07, 2017 4:43 PM  

Sample math question: A liberal reporter has a program on five days per week. If he tells three lies on each show, how many lies will he tell in one year?"

Difficult to say, because they keep telling the same lies over and over. :D

Also, leap year?

Blogger pyrrhus February 07, 2017 4:49 PM  

@67 Yes, but if the voucher is very substantial, you may be able to get a scholarship for the difference. Partial scholarships are pretty common...

Blogger pyrrhus February 07, 2017 4:52 PM  

@54 Glad to hear it. Media lying about Common Core, as usual.

Blogger Matthew February 07, 2017 5:10 PM  

David the Minion wrote:Time that these two ladies were 'primaried'.

Pilloried, rather.

Blogger ace February 07, 2017 5:22 PM  

I can't help but take this as a bad sign, or at least a reminder that the majority of conservatives in the establishment--sitting in congress, writing for publications, etc.--either have no idea what is being attempted now or are full-on cucks. All it takes is a few of these worms to turn. Basically we don't yet have the vision or party unity at the top that Dems have enjoyed since Lenin.

Blogger Jon Mollison February 07, 2017 5:36 PM  

I have a question for anyone who may know: could a voucher be used by parents to send their child to a Christian school?
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If Federal funds can go to PP for decades to pay for "everything but abortions *wink*", there ain't no reason they can't go to religious schools for evertthing but religious ed *wink* for the same number of years.

Anonymous User February 07, 2017 5:36 PM  

The only voucher I want from the government is legal tender.

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 07, 2017 5:43 PM  

Slightly OT, but related: Saw on Gab that Sessions passed 52-47. Need to confirm.

Oh it is so on.

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 07, 2017 5:44 PM  

Confirmation is Sessions' nomination has had cloture invoked. Confirmation vote is tomorrow, as scheduled.

Not that it wasn't on already.

Anonymous Eduardo February 07, 2017 5:54 PM  

@55

Oh my... O_O it is JIMMY SPENCER!!!! O_O

Are you gonna give Pelosi a Crying Towel?

Blogger Phat Repat February 07, 2017 5:56 PM  

VD wrote:When the article says that she "has limited experience with the public school system" It should read "has as absolutely no professional experience with any education system"

You don't need any experience with a system in order to shut it down.


Coming together perfectly. President Trump will oversee the bankruptcy of the USA which will offer a reckoning of the many ills that have been perpetrated against the American people. Considering most of our citizens will be more concerned about where their next meal comes from, there will be little resistance to the full program President Trump has in store.

The repatriation of non-Americans, the restoration of our values, and a return to Meritocracy are but some of the dizzying episodes of "Winning" we will experience. As the POTUS stated, we very likely will tire from the "Winning", or our heads will explode from disbelief that this was even possible. Either way, this is truly a great time to be alive. Godspeed Mr. President, we are with you 100%.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 6:04 PM  

Feather Blade @66: "I have to admit that what the fed has to do with school funding is beyond me... I always thought that government schools were paid for by property taxes collected from all residents of a school district, or at most by state tax monies collected from the residents of a state.

So the federal government mandating a top down solution for this seems... unreasonable.
"


A large portion of a school district's budget is paid for out of property taxes or state taxes, yes (where applicable).

But FedGov also gives money to states/schools in the form of grants, for example via the Elementary and Secondary Education Act. Then the recipient has to comply with whatever federal restrictions accompany said money, which is what No Child Left Behind was all about.

These strings could also have interesting implications connected to sanctuary cities/states, too....

Blogger VFM #7634 February 07, 2017 6:10 PM  

Coming together perfectly. President Trump will oversee the bankruptcy of the USA which will offer a reckoning of the many ills that have been perpetrated against the American people. Considering most of our citizens will be more concerned about where their next meal comes from, there will be little resistance to the full program President Trump has in store.


@78 Phat Repat
Oh yuk yuk yuk, what a biting wit this one has! My hat's off to you!

Blogger VFM #7634 February 07, 2017 6:12 PM  

Pilloried, rather.

@71 Matthew
Or rather put on the cucking stool. Preferably in their home states.

Blogger Feather Blade February 07, 2017 6:33 PM  

@79 That makes sense. Thanks!

Blogger John Wright February 07, 2017 6:48 PM  

No experience? How can any Lefty troll even in jest write such words after eight years of Obama, a man who never had any experience in anything worth mention?

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 6:48 PM  

But FedGov also gives money to states/schools in the form of grants,

Yes. A local school here wanted to add four new classrooms, and the people voted it down twice. Then some new federal grant came along, so if they voted for the same amount of money, they could get matching funds enough to pay for 12 classrooms -- and a new gym! Naturally the people voted for it then, and it came with requirements for such things as making all their restrooms and entryways handi-capable.

The feds are also involved in lots of little secondary ways, by "suggesting" everything from scheduling options to bus safety rules. They also have their fingers in what publishers put in textbooks and what future teachers are taught in college. It's not an accident that public schools are basically the same everywhere, despite officially having local control. The top-down control may not be official, but it's real all the same.

Anonymous BBGKB February 07, 2017 6:58 PM  

Sample math question: A liberal reporter has a program on five days per week.

SHitlib evening news said all of TRUMP's facts about TERROR are wrong and his facts about the murder rate are wrong saying murders are drasticly down. Chicongo was 72% higher last year even with them faking the numbers to make them smaller at 762. Body found in locker tied up with barbed wire= natural causes

Or rather put on the cucking stool. Preferably in their home states.

They might turn the stool upside down and like it
OT: is there going to be a periscope today?

Blogger SteelPalm February 07, 2017 7:02 PM  

Ugh, this is annoying.

With the Democrats being committed to defying Trump on anything and everything, party unity within the Republicans is more important than ever.

It's bad enough we have Senators like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Lamar Alexander.

But now, we have to contend with back-stabbers like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski to boot? These are the traitors we should be focusing on at present.

Blogger Adm Trell February 07, 2017 7:08 PM  

I hope she tears the public school system as we know it into pieces. This way of doing schooling is 50+ years out of date... time to remold education into more of a homeschool/over the computer format. Turn it into something that will actually prepare children for the 21st century.

Blogger Phat Repat February 07, 2017 7:08 PM  

@80. Hehehe... Save the hat, you might need it later.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 7:14 PM  

Cail Corishev @84: "...and it came with requirements for such things as making all their restrooms and entryways handi-capable."

Yes, but to be fair, that isn't just a requirement for schools. The ADA mandates handicap accessibility for all public places -- we even had to put them in our business when we remodeled it, and it has nothing to do with education.

Anonymous Clay February 07, 2017 7:16 PM  

So freakin' what. You can't make beef wellington using turds.

I am an old shit fart. I remember segregation, especially integration.

Then, all the black bussed-in students were failing. THAT couldn't happen. Then the violence and drugs moved in. Next, we had to implement the "Grade Curve"...I was straight A's from that day yonder. Never even bothered to take a book home.

The disgust is overwhelming.

Blogger Phat Repat February 07, 2017 7:21 PM  

Communique from the VP:
...The President and I agree that our children’s futures should not be determined by their zip code. Students should not be trapped in a system that puts the status quo ahead of a child’s success.

Betsy DeVos will have great impact as Secretary of Education. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a public school, a private school, a parochial school, a charter school, or any other kind of school – she will help ensure that every student has access to a good school. ...


Bold my emphasis

Let's hope this isn't a perpetuation or expansion of the "no child left behind" BS. No, that wouldn't work for my children. But, a collapse of the system, will surely cure these ridiculous notions that all children need is the "right environment" to succeed. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, or perhaps not.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 7:22 PM  

OT
Over 90% of Antifa tards in Berlin live with their parents, probably in an apartment bedroom, although a basement would be more appropriate.

The figures, which were published in daily newspaper Bild revealed that 873 suspects were investigated by authorities between 2003 and 2013.

Of these 84 per cent were men, and 72 per cent were aged between 18 and 29.


I wonder how much of that pattern holds in Portland, Ore., Seattle and other libtard havens?

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 7:23 PM  

Cail Corishev @84: "It's not an accident that public schools are basically the same everywhere, despite officially having local control. The top-down control may not be official, but it's real all the same."

Yep. The Obama replacement for NCLB -- the Every Child Succeeds Act -- is what put Common Core in many schools.

Local control? Only if you can afford it.

Anonymous VFM #7916 February 07, 2017 7:30 PM  

What's amusing about all of this is that the kiddies will still need to be housed somewhere while both parents are at work. Homeschooling or online education still requires a parent at home, and an involved parent at that.

Either way, I am still entertained, and will be entertained for the next 8 years.

Anonymous Osbert February 07, 2017 7:35 PM  

Offering government vouchers to Christian schools would be the best possible strategy for destroying them. No thank you.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 7:37 PM  

Phat Repat @91: "Let's hope this isn't a perpetuation or expansion of the "no child left behind" BS. No, that wouldn't work for my children. But, a collapse of the system, will surely cure these ridiculous notions that all children need is the "right environment" to succeed."

Especially since NCLB was a failure:

"The Obama administration pumped more than $7 billion into an education program, first authorized under President George W. Bush, that had no impact on student achievement – according to a report released by the Department of Education in the final days of the 44th president’s term."

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 7:45 PM  

VFM #7916 @94: "Homeschooling or online education still requires a parent at home, and an involved parent at that."

Largely in part because of state laws regarding homeschooling, which often require a direct family member to conduct the teaching. This rules out such things as (literal) home schools run like a daycare service, or homeschooling co-operatives where the teaching and oversight is shared amongst a group of like-minded folk.

Get some of the state regulation out also, and you'll see what can be done.

Blogger Feather Blade February 07, 2017 7:47 PM  

@83 This was Senator Al Franken's take on it, as reported by The Hill

her ideology is fundamentally incompatible with the mission of the Department of Education, but that she is fundamentally incompetent to be its leader,” Franken said Monday from the Senate floor.

“This is not a job for amateurs,” the former “Saturday Night Live” comedian added.

Blogger Feather Blade February 07, 2017 7:51 PM  

The Obama replacement for NCLB -- the Every Child Succeeds Act -- is what put Common Core in many schools.

Isn't that nice. "Too Big To Fail" for school children. /sarc

Anonymous WaterBoy February 07, 2017 7:56 PM  

Error Correction @93: Every Student Succeeds Act

Still, a turd by any other name....

Blogger Silly But True February 07, 2017 8:06 PM  

Sen. Franken was actually mostly correct but for his liberal biad which views conservatives as bumblefucks.

Yes, her ideology is fundamentally incompatible with the mission of the Department of Education.

The job she is meant to do is not one for amateurs.

She is no amateur.

Franken while partisan hack is usually smarter than this.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 8:26 PM  

...she will help ensure that every student has access to a good school. ...

People who think schools are unnecessary don't make a career in the education industry, so no one should expect her to be anti-school. Gatto is a rarity. The difference is that a liberal educrat wants top-down federal control, schooling combined with day-care starting as early as possible, and plenty of indoctrination. The conservative educrat wants local control with federal "assistance"; more choices in terms of private, charter, and home schools; and less (or different) indoctrination. They both think schools are (or can be, with their guidance) great forces for good, and neither can imagine doing without a massive public school system.

But any Hillary appointee's #1 priority would have been to suppress homeschooling as much as possible, so this is a win regardless.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy February 07, 2017 8:27 PM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:OT

Over 90% of Antifa tards in Berlin live with their parents, probably in an apartment bedroom, although a basement would be more appropriate.

Even more off-topic, one of the links in that story's sidebar will not surprise anyone here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4201046/Judy-Garland-molested-Wizards-Oz-munchkins.html

(The munchkins molested her, not the other way around. Their URL omits a “by”.)

VFM #7916 wrote:What's amusing about all of this is that the kiddies will still need to be housed somewhere while both parents are at work. Homeschooling or online education still requires a parent at home, and an involved parent at that.
That's what women are for:
praetorian wrote:Sooner or later we all need to take the final red pill and get woke on the FQ.

Blogger John Wright February 07, 2017 8:43 PM  

And we all acknowledge that having a Department of Education in the first place is insolently unconstitutional, and an example of derelict government overreach?

Putting Gozer the Destructor in charge would not be out of the question.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 9:19 PM  

And we all acknowledge that having a Department of Education in the first place is insolently unconstitutional, and an example of derelict government overreach?

Since it's not 1979, this is moot.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 9:22 PM  

Common Core has been a goldmine for textbook companies. It's also pretty much nuts to let a handful of people in DC dictate the curriculum for the entire country.

If DeVos spends the next few years dismantling Common Core down to the roots and salting the ground, that would be a good thing all by itself.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 07, 2017 9:39 PM  

Common Core has been a goldmine for textbook companies.

Even many homeschool materials now come in new "Common Core ready" editions. It's fairly irrelevant here in Illinois where there are no regulations on homeschooling; but I guess in states where homeschoolers have to take standardized tests, kids still have to be trained for them.

Blogger John Wright February 07, 2017 9:40 PM  

@105
"Since it's not 1979, this is moot."

No, it is Year One of the Trumpapalooza, which means those of use who are not cynical idiots can still see the Constitution is the cleverest bit of legal reasoning this sad, old world ever managed to stumble into, and so if we were clever as well , we should stumble back into it.

Unless you are one of those gullible gassoons who believe history is on a ratchet, and only goes ever more to the Left?

Anonymous gxg February 07, 2017 9:48 PM  

Interesting. Just hours after DeVos confirmation, Kentucky rep introduces legislation to abolish Federal Education Dept.

The one-sentence bill reads: “The Department of Education Shall Terminate on December 31, 2018.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/07/kentucky-rep-thomas-massie-launches-bill-abolish-federal-education-department/

Anonymous RedJack February 07, 2017 9:48 PM  

I have no desire to see my kid's parochial school over run by public school rejects demanding we respect their short time preference. Not sure I like her ideas.

But I LOVE the exploding heads. My bride is a public school teacher, and is finding the wailing and nashing of teeth quite enjoyable.

Blogger praetorian February 07, 2017 9:49 PM  

It's also pretty much nuts to let a handful of people in DC dictate the curriculum for the entire country.

The math is insane: all the questions are reading comp (some of them talmudic) with a small amount of math once you figure out what the hell they are asking.

By making math reading comp, they are going to crush boys math scores. In ten years the female/male ratio is going to be 3/1 in higher education.

I'm looking for math books to teach my kids out of, any recommendations ilk? Saxon?

Blogger Elizabeth February 07, 2017 10:05 PM  

Feather Blade wrote:Mighty Lou wrote:I have a question for anyone who may know: could a voucher be used by parents to send their child to a Christian school?

Depends on what strings the Fed attaches or can attach to the money. Often times, federal (or even state) money means that the school must meet government targets and quotas, use government curricula, submit to government inspection, and adhere to the last jot and tittle of federal law.

Which is why Christian schools with any self-preservation instinct at all have never accepted money from the government.


Which is why Hillsdale College, among others, will not accept Federal student loan money. He who pays the piper gets to call the tune: What the government subsidizes, the government controls. Ironically enough, Hillsdale College always adhered to a non-discrimination policy on the basis of race, sex and religion from the time of its founding in the 1840s.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 07, 2017 10:22 PM  

@111 Saxon is OK. I like Singapore for brighter kids. Look into the Robinson curriculum. I think they use Saxon?

Blogger SteelPalm February 07, 2017 10:31 PM  

@111

I'm looking for math books to teach my kids out of, any recommendations ilk? Saxon?

I have an advanced degree in math, so I will field this.

Most of the math textbooks I learned from growing up were in Russian, but I know some good English ones.

Firstly though,

-How old are your kids?
-How much do they already know?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 07, 2017 10:33 PM  

@111
I'm looking for math books to teach my kids out of, any recommendations ilk? Saxon?

Get older Saxon books.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents February 07, 2017 10:41 PM  

@108 John Wright
No, it is Year One of the Trumpapalooza, which means those of use who are not cynical idiots

Sigh. Never mind. Waste of time to engage.

Direct question for John C. Wright: do you deliberately insult people to their face as much as you do in comments?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cent February 07, 2017 11:13 PM  

@109
Interesting. Just hours after DeVos confirmation, Kentucky rep introduces legislation to abolish Federal Education Dept.

The one-sentence bill reads: “The Department of Education Shall Terminate on December 31, 2018.”


Nice gesture. If it ever comes out of committee, could be interesting.

But let's be real, here. All sorts of legislation gets filed that is just grandstanding. There used to be a Democrat who would file a bill to overturn the 2nd Amendment every new Congress. It was clearly something he could fundraise with and nothing more, because even when the DNCe controlled both houses of Congress it never went anywhere.

I'm all in favor of abolishing both DOE's, but I'm also fully aware of how Congress operates.

Anonymous Jack Amok February 07, 2017 11:14 PM  

Let's hope this isn't a perpetuation or expansion of the "no child left behind" BS.

I'd say it's more likely to be "here's your share of tax money, go spend it on whatever school you want to send your kids to."

As to fears that vouchers will mean the Feds have a say in how a school runs, c'mon people. This is Trump, not Dubya. Give the man some credit.

Anonymous 2-8-17 February 07, 2017 11:14 PM  

@108 @115

I'm so glad to agree with John Wright again.

Support HR899 to abolish the Fed Dept of Ed! Kick these commies the hell out.

I personally have known people at these so-called Dept of Ed. Commie filth all.

Write your congressman Get three others to write. I am preparing template letters to hand out to colleagues.

I'm framing the issue as mildly DeVos and pro-diversity to get anti-Trump idiots involved.

Reply to me here if you want me to send you my template and materials I have prepared. They've nothing special, but we need to get a MAGA3X thing going with this.

Anonymous Passinthough February 07, 2017 11:19 PM  

@ 111
I can recommend Saxon math. My oldest son liked it and did well with it. You might also look at Life of Fred math curriculum. It worked for youngest son "I hate math".

Blogger The Deplorable Ken Ramsey February 07, 2017 11:23 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:The feds are also involved in lots of little secondary ways, by "suggesting" everything from scheduling options to bus safety rules. They also have their fingers in what publishers put in textbooks and what future teachers are taught in college. It's not an accident that public schools are basically the same everywhere, despite officially having local control. The top-down control may not be official, but it's real all the same.

This, 100%. We have an elected school board that is theoretically accountable to the locals, through elections. But it doesn't work that way. Here in Fairfax County, VA, we had a huge dust-up over the gender identity and transgender education thing that they are trying to foist on even our elementary school kids. The meeting where that went down was hot, impassioned, I was amazed fisticuffs didn't break out. Parents showed up en masse stridently opposed to anything of the sort.

The school board tabled it, then broke their word by scheduling a meeting that was only pre-announced to the LBGT activists and unions, and hastily same-day announced to the general public. And they passed the queer agenda then, fully aware that it was not wanted.

The federal government dangles "free" money before them, or threatens to take away previously granted "free" money, and they reliably do their bidding every time.

Come election day, there just aren't enough concerned parents to counter the activists, public service and teachers' unions, who bloc vote for their people on the board. Parents can be damned. So, we are.

When you have a huge majority of parents standing up shouting to the top of their lungs, "OH, HELL NO!", as we did, and they just smile and do it anyway, you can't really say we have a locally governed educational system. That simply isn't true.

OpenID thetroll February 07, 2017 11:28 PM  

> And we all acknowledge that having a Department of Education in the first place is insolently unconstitutional,

Nope. The General Welfare clause allows spending outside Congress' enumerated powers, and it's not too hard to make a case for education promoting the general welfare.

The trick is, set it up so that instead of being a propaganda machine like it is now, make it a lean redistribution machine to provide vouchers to parents. That should be a redistribution of income overall from blue voters to red voters and encouraging family formation that most here should be able to get behind, I would think.

Blogger Phat Repat February 07, 2017 11:30 PM  

@111. I have to concur on the Saxon, it's what we use and they have been doing just fine on all standardized tests. Also, we're using the latest books but you can start to see some PC (Convergence?) creeping in with names like Kaneesha, Jose, etc... When the kids ask pronunciation of the names, I just tell them to cross it out and put Bob if male question, Julie if female question, and Pat if they're unsure. I always get a chuckle when I see Pat. ;-D

Anonymous 2-8-17 February 07, 2017 11:54 PM  

@120

Do you still send your children to that school?

What would your grandfather have done if perverts tried to turn his child into a suicidal queer?

Your local board got away with that because you conservatives are pussies and they know it. They'll cheat and laugh at you to your face, and you will do nothing.

When they pull that shit, it's a literal call to arms. Jesus fucking christ, if you put up with that shit you don't deserve to call yourself an American. Your ancestors fought for their values, and they're the Americans. Not pussies who let perverts indoctrinate their children.

Blogger WTF February 08, 2017 12:06 AM  

After reading the article linked, i realized it is related to this site.

We'd better not get complacent, these people are playing to win no matter what laws need to be broken. It appears to be peaceful, but underneath it's being organized by some with evil intent.

https://www.indivisibleguide.com

Blogger Phat Repat February 08, 2017 12:21 AM  

@124. Which is why I'm more inclined to think Trump was specifically brought in to reorg the entire structure and oversee the greatest bankruptcy in history. And the beauty is, he can't be directly blamed, try as they might, as these issues have been around since the folly of Bretton Woods, the establishment of the $IMFS, and a plethora of financial disasters in subsequent years. Thus, that which you see today, you definitely won't see tomorrow (Fed/State/Local). And I believe we are mighty close to that reckoning. Without firing a single shot, the entire left [corrupt system] disintegrates; doesn't get much sweeter than that.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster February 08, 2017 12:28 AM  

"The General Welfare clause allows spending outside Congress' enumerated powers, and it's not too hard to make a case for education promoting the general welfare."

By that argument, it's not too hard to make a case for the government spending money on anything. Clearly that's not what it was intended to do, and that argument would probably have been rejected even a hundred years ago, because people still understood that.

Anonymous kjj February 08, 2017 12:39 AM  

Teaching math:

1. No calculators. Never. Calculators are to be used only when applying math, like in physics class, never when learning math.

2. The student should rote memorize addition, subtraction and multiplication tables up to 12x12 at a minimum. 16x16 if you think they might like to be a programmer some day. Use flash cards or software.

3. The old Saxon books are excellent. Good coverage, lots of intentional repetition, lots of exercises. Lots of other books can work well enough, hit garage sales, etc looking for old math books. Used colleges math books from 10-20 years ago would probably be good too. If a parent is willing to put in the work, there are lots of math books that aren't really textbooks, but will do just fine in a pinch.

4. Gifted students are tricky. They won't need to do the work in the easy parts, and they won't want to either. If they aren't made to, they will be crippled later when it gets hard. And I don't mean showing every step on tests, I mean working through the mountains of exercises that are absolutely necessary to cement the skills in place. Double these kids up - find something interesting and challenging (number theory, modern algebra, geometry, topology, logic, discrete algebra, etc) for them to do in addition to (never instead of) their mainline courses.

5. In theory, all of Trigonometry is Oscar Had A Hold On Arthur. In practice, you are lost if you haven't been force fed the whole mountain of identities and relationships AND practiced using them over and over again. It sucks, but has to be done.

6. Teach your kids enough statistics to demolish everything they read in the newspaper. It really isn't that much. Give them a copy of Savage's _Foundations of Statistics_ and threaten to make them read it as punishment. Eventually they should figure out that no one has ever read it - and that it is the only rigorous treatment of the subject.

7. When they are getting up to Calculus age, study ahead yourself using Keisler's _Elementary Calculus_, and use it to supplement your other calculus book(s).

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 08, 2017 1:15 AM  

Meanwhile, San Francisco cuts a deal with City College to provide free tution to all city residents.

That should work out well.

Anonymous Siobhan February 08, 2017 1:58 AM  

City College is full of dumb people. It would be too painful to attend even if they paid you to go.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 08, 2017 2:09 AM  

thetroll wrote:> And we all acknowledge that having a Department of Education in the first place is insolently unconstitutional,

Nope. The General Welfare clause allows spending outside Congress' enumerated powers, and it's not too hard to make a case for education promoting the general welfare.


Nope. The General Welfare clause is a scam. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/General+Welfare

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/usconstitution/a/constindex.htm
"While the Preamble has no legal standing..."

Being a part of the Preamble it has exactly the same force as the OTHER Preamble, the one they always leave out of all the law dictionaries:

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

Get it?

Blogger The Deplorable Ken Ramsey February 08, 2017 2:41 AM  

2-8-17 wrote:@120

Do you still send your children to that school?

What would your grandfather have done if perverts tried to turn his child into a suicidal queer?

Your local board got away with that because you conservatives are pussies and they know it. They'll cheat and laugh at you to your face, and you will do nothing.

When they pull that shit, it's a literal call to arms. Jesus fucking christ, if you put up with that shit you don't deserve to call yourself an American. Your ancestors fought for their values, and they're the Americans. Not pussies who let perverts indoctrinate their children.


It's not one school, it's the whole district. No, I've pulled out my kids and we are attempting Catholic school. I say attempting, because of the financial strain. I would like to have done homeschooling, but for that you really need two willing and capable parents. Vouchers would be nice. I still have to pay taxes to support the public schools, as do we all.

They benefit again from the demographics - most people don't have kids in school, so they are remoted from the problem and don't face up to it. A fed up populace would do quite nicely right now!

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot February 08, 2017 2:51 AM  

Napoleon @57: The answer to your maths question is three.

Leftists repeat the same lies.

Anonymous Mathias February 08, 2017 4:40 AM  

Yea, as someone with a degree in Math, these common core methods are horrible.
They aim to "simplify" a simple multiplication problem, which has a two scalar inputs, and a single scalar output, by turning it into a 2d vector math problem that puts the appropriate numbers in a diagonal pattern, and then the students use the original algorithm anyway! It's part of an entirely jewish plot to turn math into a series of obfuscated talmudic word problems that hash out into this over-complicated vector method, in order to artificially lower the math scores of White Boys! The jews who wrote common core know damn well that a White Man's language facilities don't really develop until after puberty (and a certian percentage of mathematically gifted White Men never will), but his spatial Math skills develop almost immediately after infancy, so they sabotage us by hiding basic arithmetic behind the gate of our neurological development! Arithmetic is a thing that should be immediately easy and obvious to young White Boys given their current spatial skill development. This is a plot to artificially suppress the math scores of male children relative to female children, and White children relative to non-white children.

Anonymous Anonymous February 08, 2017 7:28 AM  

Yes, but the scary part is that it can also go to the new next door islamist school.

Anonymous Gecko February 08, 2017 10:38 AM  

John Wright wrote:@105

"Since it's not 1979, this is moot."

No, it is Year One of the Trumpapalooza, which means those of use who are not cynical idiots can still see the Constitution is the cleverest bit of legal reasoning this sad, old world ever managed to stumble into, and so if we were clever as well , we should stumble back into it.

Unless you are one of those gullible gassoons who believe history is on a ratchet, and only goes ever more to the Left?


What the heck, John? You don't have to be a ratchet defeatist to acknowledge that we haven't been governed by the Constitution for over 150 years, or to have reasonable objections to it. Either can be done while recognizing its clever legal reasoning. Patrick Henry may have been cynical about the power grab, but was he an idiot? Or were the idiots the ones who fell for it?

Anonymous 2-8-17 February 08, 2017 12:19 PM  

The common core methods are attempting to teach mental math.

The methods taught are not bad..I use the exact same methods to do mental math myself, but I 'discovered' these methods on my own, no one taught me. I was taught algorithms only. I wish I had been exposed to mental math techniques earlier.

It's an example of putting the cart before the horse and trying to train a horse to speak English.

First, the algorithm must be learned first as a foundation. Second, most with IQ below maybe 105(?) will never be able to do math at the level of breaking up numbers and re-combinibg in head. These people can just barely master reading a ruler marked in 16ths.

Anonymous Kevin R.C. O'Brien February 08, 2017 6:13 PM  

Collins was a Nay to show, "independence," which is valued by low information voters in New England.

Murkowski's Nay is easier to explain. She's one of those people who have gotten incredibly rich from "service" in the Senate, and she sells her vote to the highest bidder. She's taken scores of thousands of dollars per election cycle from DC-based teachers' unions.

Collins is unlikely to be replaced by anything better, and the last time Murkowski was primaried, the state Establishment rammed her through as a questionable write-in candidate, including the Republican establishment screwing the primary winner over to put its weight behind the defeated insider.

She'll go out the way most Alaska Senators do, with an indictment and conviction, one of these days. Any replacement would probably be an R and one less a part of the Washington graft machine.

Party politics is only a small part of the problem, corruption is a larger one, and it is driven from Washington just having too much power. They're all crooks; the incentives for the cash-in are too high.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind February 08, 2017 9:53 PM  

The funny thing is that the fcps school board earned the ire of parents for just 1.6℅ of their budget. That's all the feds contribute...

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