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Tuesday, February 14, 2017

Darkstream and GabTV replay

I'll be doing a Darkstream on Periscope tonight at 7:30 PM. Also, the replay for yesterday's GabTV is now available and can be watched here. It's a bit laggy, but that's a consequence of my Internet connection and I'll have it fixed by Wednesday next week.

UPDATE: The replay is here.

And as I suggested in the GabTV broadcast, Flynn had to go because he lied. The White House has now confirmed that take.

 President Trump asked Michael Flynn to resign as national security adviser because of eroding trust —not because he violated the law, the White House said Tuesday.

In a briefing dominated by questions about Flynn, press secretary Sean Spicer repeatedly said the former national security adviser had done nothing wrong in talking to counterparts around the world, including from Russia.

He said Trump had fired Flynn not because of those conversations, but because Trump felt that his trust in Flynn had “eroded.”

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87 Comments:

Blogger #7139 February 14, 2017 4:19 PM  

I am listening to GabTV on Chrome. Brave didn't want to play GabTV.

Blogger SirHamster February 14, 2017 4:35 PM  

#7139 wrote:I am listening to GabTV on Chrome. Brave didn't want to play GabTV.

Per Torba, GabTV currently uses Flash, which is not supported on Brave by default.

There's a way to enable Flash for Brave if you go to Settings -> Security.

In the future, GabTV will use HTML5 and no longer require Flash.

Blogger Phat Repat February 14, 2017 4:42 PM  

Love the parade of cucks/SJWs on CNN calling for investigation. OMG, never have there been so many leaks! I'm enjoying how they're outing themselves, however.

Blogger #7139 February 14, 2017 4:44 PM  

@2 Thank you.

Blogger Robert Divinity February 14, 2017 4:46 PM  

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Blogger Robert Divinity February 14, 2017 4:48 PM  

The cucks, communists, Deep State apparatchiks, and the opposition media are now howling for Steve Bannon's head on a pike. Trump now must stand firm with those who are loyal and retain his trust.

Blogger Brian S February 14, 2017 5:01 PM  

very glad GabTV will have the replay option, it will be rare that I can listen to them live

Anonymous a_peraspera February 14, 2017 5:22 PM  

Looks like Yellen at the Fed is trash talking Trump now too. Can he fire her?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 14, 2017 5:36 PM  

@8

No.

Blogger Durandel Almiras February 14, 2017 5:50 PM  

Is there a reason that Cernovich is being so negative about this? Is he just trying to get the Left in a full high so that trump's next blow sends them to new lows? Just seems odd coming from him.

Blogger Stan_qaz February 14, 2017 5:51 PM  

What concerns me is that given his previous jobs Flynn had to know the intelligence agencies had recorded his conversations and had them on file.

I don't see how he could have had a reasonable belief that the conversations would not be leaked by the leftists in the agencies. I'm really leaning to him having not recalled the full conversation.

Blogger SteelPalm February 14, 2017 5:56 PM  

While the Gab replay works now, it constantly freezes and then skips a couple of seconds every 15-20 seconds, and occasionally stops working entirely and throws one back to the beginning of the video in a permanently frozen state.

I doubt this is due to your connection being a bit slow.

As for the Flynn situation, I don't know enough about the situation and will reserve judgement. I trust in the God Emperor.

Anonymous #8601 February 14, 2017 6:01 PM  

Whenever we were down during the election campaign, we could count on the Supreme Dark Lord for a morale boost.

I believe another one is in order tonight. Looking forward to it!

Blogger EmpReb February 14, 2017 6:11 PM  

@SteelPalm There is a strong argument to be made he is throwing him under the bus and this give the media a scalp IE power again. But I am more indifferent because Flynn seemed far to hawkish and Trump as shown he ruthless wants his LTs to be good at their job and will replace them at a moments notice if they don't. So really if Flynn fucked up and was shitting the bed... well bye Felicia.

Blogger Robert Browning February 14, 2017 6:12 PM  

Cui bono,???? Pence.

Blogger Dave February 14, 2017 6:34 PM  

While the Gab replay works now, it constantly freezes and then skips a couple of seconds every 15-20 seconds, and occasionally stops working entirely and throws one back to the beginning of the video in a permanently frozen state.

I watched the entire darkstream replay; never froze, never locked up, never re-started. I did see and hear the same intermittent stutter or buffering that was present during the live stream.

I was able to jump forward and backwards on the vid timeline and the replay resumed almost immediately every time. Toggled back and forth between full screen and the regular window and it didn't affect the replay at all. Actually better than Youtube.

Just so you know Vox, at full screen I could almost read the covers of the books behind you. You may want to ensure no sensitive information is lying around, that's how good the image resolution is.

Brave on Win10 laptop

Anonymous BBGKB February 14, 2017 6:37 PM  

cucks/SJWs on CNN calling for investigation. OMG, never have there been so many leaks! I'm enjoying how they're outing themselves

I thought national coming out day was in june.

Looks like Yellen at the Fed is trash talking Trump now too I thought she just said she would jew the economy.

Cui bono,???? Since Flynn was a neocon we do.

Blogger VD February 14, 2017 6:48 PM  

You may want to ensure no sensitive information is lying around, that's how good the image resolution is.

Already took care of that. The one picture is of me and my Viszla.

Blogger Timmy3 February 14, 2017 6:53 PM  

I can't help feeling that Trump threw Flynn under the bus as exactly what Obama would have done. What some are saying is Trump could have asked for a resignation letter from Flynn with a strong apology and then refuse to accept the resignation. This would ensure the media and Flynn's enemies would get the payback they wanted, and Trump get to say he stays around. Now, the end result is the "Deep State" will seek more trophies.

Blogger Marsh February 14, 2017 7:02 PM  

This isn't the first time Flynn effed up. He talked to Turkey w/o telling Trump. It's a big deal for him to hold back any part of his discussions from the President. I agree w/ Vox, he had to let him go.

Sucks though. But, it is what it is.

Blogger Herb Spicer February 14, 2017 7:06 PM  

@10

I think Cernovich is aggressive to a fault sometimes. Though given his position he really has no reason not to be aside from maybe being caught out on some BS.

Blogger VD February 14, 2017 7:12 PM  

I can't help feeling that Trump threw Flynn under the bus as exactly what Obama would have done.

What bus? Flynn blundered badly, misled Pence, and Trump doesn't trust him. So, he's out of the inner circle of advisers. This is not a surprise. It has nothing to do with the media pressure.

Blogger JCclimber February 14, 2017 7:23 PM  

I can tell that Trump is seriously concerned that firing Flynn will make him look weak in the eyes of the country. I am so glad that he test polled for a few days to see what impact this could have, and sweated with his brain trust for a few more days, to figure out exactly how to spin this to further his narrative.

No, wait, that would be the previous 4 presidents.

Have some of you who are wringing their hands over this, and other moves by Trump, never had any exposure to how a take charge man, who is also highly accomplished, operates?

Have you been so sheltered from the real world, and real history by stewing in Hollywood fake men and media fake men and Wall Street Whore Fake men so long that you can't recognize true competence?

Trump has been up front for decades about his style. Do your job as best you can, or be fired. Be truthful to him, or you're fired.
You can tell him the hard truths. Not fired.
You can fail but faithfully carry out his assignments, and you may be reassigned to another duty, but not fired.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 14, 2017 7:26 PM  

Trump could have asked for a resignation letter from Flynn with a strong apology and then refuse to accept the resignation. This would ensure the media and Flynn's enemies would get the payback they wanted, and Trump get to say he stays around.

That's stupid. Why should Trump care about letting the media or someone else's enemies have some payback?

When will people stop thinking Trump somehow has to placate or compromise with the media to succeed? The opposite is true.

Anonymous Dan February 14, 2017 7:33 PM  

Flynn probably could have been charged with a felony for violating the Logan act, which says a private citizen can't negotiate with a foreign government, which he seemly did because Trump wasn't president yet.

In a non-hostile transition, some contact with the transition team would not be a big deal but this was different. The official deep state policy is for us all to burn up in a nuclear war with Russia, and Flynn's discussions were contrary to that goal.

Blogger David The Good February 14, 2017 7:43 PM  

"Show up to stream. No compliment!" someone commented. I laughed out loud.

Blogger Timmy3 February 14, 2017 8:03 PM  

"That's stupid. Why should Trump care about letting the media or someone else's enemies have some payback?"

As opposed to having Flynn's scalp as payback? There are different levels of payback. What happened to Flynn was the worst possible payback.

Blogger Herb Spicer February 14, 2017 8:25 PM  

28@

Don't worry Timmy3, Uncle Mike is warming up his batteries for The Day. I'll keep the co-pilot seat in my helicopter tour open for you, if you wanna help.

Blogger Timmy3 February 14, 2017 8:38 PM  

Why can't you speak normally? Huh?

Anonymous Susan February 14, 2017 8:40 PM  

@8/9

While he cannot fire her totally off the Fed, he can remove her as Chair and she will serve out the remainder of her term as just one of the chair warmers at the table, while a new Chair is appointed.

Blogger Doom February 14, 2017 8:45 PM  

I didn't have to have an app, just Gab, to watch Gab TV. To watch it after, it seems, an app is required? Oh well. I'll try to catch them when they are live. Yes, probably, I say probably, easy enough to get the app. It might or might not work, what it asks for sign-up I may or may not be willing to accept. No more apps, for apps, in apps, on top of apps. I simply refuse to be buried in apps, on top of all that.

I'll try to catch them live though. Don't take it personally. Just... telling you why not.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 14, 2017 9:26 PM  

Timmy3 wrote:What happened to Flynn was the worst possible payback.
Tell that to Vince Foster.

Blogger SteelPalm February 14, 2017 9:28 PM  

Heh, out of curiosity, is there a profanity filter I've tripped up? I wrote a rather insulting description of the juvenile idiot Pewdiepie (who, while the victim of very unjust punishment, is about as likely to be an ally of the right-wing as any Russian-hating Swedish feminist) that earned me a loss of commenting ability for 2 minutes. No swearing, but I did use "whore" and "cuck".

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 9:41 PM  

All the angst over flynn and the media foofaw reminds me of the people who agonize daily over the stock market, and use chart porn to get through the day.

We are already on to the Netanyahu visit tomorrow. There is always going to be something else. Trump either handles it, or not. Either way, whatever shit is coming down the pike is coming down the pike.

Hope is debilitating. Give up hope, and good things happen.
Its a Zen thing.

Blogger SteelPalm February 14, 2017 9:48 PM  

@34

Indeed, that's a good perspective. Regardless of what one thinks of the Flynn situation, it shouldn't discourage any serious right-winger from continuing to fight. One of our advantages over leftists should be our mental and emotional fortitude.

Blogger Timmy3 February 14, 2017 9:49 PM  

"Tell that to Vince Foster"

Yeah if Clinton was President. Trump? Maybe you know something.

Blogger Positive Dennis February 14, 2017 9:54 PM  

No replay on gab, but if they are using flash that would be why?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 14, 2017 9:56 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Heh, out of curiosity, is there a profanity filter I've tripped up? ... No swearing, but I did use "whore" and "cuck".
Considering my dialogue with the utterly useless homaighneasach Tuatha on the "Amazingly Bad Idea" thread, I'd have to think not.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 14, 2017 9:58 PM  

Timmy3 wrote:Yeah if Clinton was President. Trump? Maybe you know something.
For a retired General to be allowed to resign, is hardly "The Worst Possible Punishment." It barely ranks as punishment.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning February 14, 2017 10:00 PM  

Stan_qaz wrote:What concerns me is that given his previous jobs Flynn had to know the intelligence agencies had recorded his conversations and had them on file.

I don't see how he could have had a reasonable belief that the conversations would not be leaked by the leftists in the agencies. I'm really leaning to him having not recalled the full conversation.


Ah,. You've pointed out a second reason for dismissal: incompetence.

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 10:09 PM  

Trump has confidence in his own abilities. He does not need subordinates, no matter how competent they think they are, second guessing or running ahead of his agenda. He is a product of the NY Military Academy.

Also, he is in the Catbird Seat.

Bully pulpit.

Imperial presidency.

Chill, anxious dudes.

Oh, and I forgot. Unlike obama, he has the military onside. Just in case their is a need to declare Martial Law.

What will the oppomedia do, call him Literally Hitler?

Oh Buuurn!!!

When he says God will protect, he is not using rhetoric.

Blogger praetorian February 14, 2017 10:11 PM  

OT: if you have some spare money, a guy got beat up by some antifa commies when he was putting up posters at Berkeley and is in a bad spot. Websearchr is hosting the fundraiser after gofundme was pressured to take it down:

https://www.wesearchr.com/bounties/help-pro-trump-activists-hospitalized-by-antifa-thugs

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 10:16 PM  

Aren't the smartest people the ones that invent the tests that measure IQ?

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 10:45 PM  

Rambam wrote:Aren't the smartest people the ones that invent the tests that measure IQ?

No. That is like saying the referee is the best athlete.

That could probably be an I.Q. question, by the way.

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 10:53 PM  

@44, so your saying the referee invented the game?
Don't answer that, I know I'm in over my head already. :)

Blogger SteelPalm February 14, 2017 11:01 PM  

@38

Considering my dialogue with the utterly useless homaighneasach Tuatha on the "Amazingly Bad Idea" thread, I'd have to think not.

I meant on Periscope. Obviously, one can say whatever the fuck they want to here.

Anonymous weston February 14, 2017 11:02 PM  

Many or most here will not agree or care for this, but the Saker explains in dumbed-down language why this is a disaster:

1-THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. ...
2-THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? ...
3-FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. ...
4-FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
5-FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? ...
6-FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! ...
7-AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago. ...

http://thesaker.is/the-anti-flynn-deep-state-coup-spelling-it-out-in-the-clearest-way-possible/

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 11:09 PM  

The swamp is undrainable. The vermin will take everyone down with them.

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 11:15 PM  

weston wrote:Many or most here will not agree or care for this, but the Saker explains in dumbed-down language why this is a disaster:



Yah, yah. Read it already. The Saker is good for explaining the Russian point of view. If he goes outside of that, he is just another guy.

But your concern has been noted. Thank you very much for that. I am sure Trump will be sufficiently enlightened by this and be extremely grateful, once I apprise him of this development. Expect a change in strategy in the near future.

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 11:20 PM  

Yea, I don't know if that Saker guy is on the up and up or a Russian asset. Think I'll quit reading him. ( for awhile anyway)

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 11:29 PM  

Rambam wrote:The swamp is undrainable. The vermin will take everyone down with them.

You're right! Everyone just give up now and go about your business being enslaved. What have you got to lose?

Blogger Elder Son February 14, 2017 11:34 PM  

The fact is, the Deep State, runs deep. The FBI, NSA, CIA, and ABC, are actually monitoring/spying on the president and his picked cabinet/insiders.

Then black mailing them. So, who is running this country again? See JFK and Eisenhower to answer that question.

Blogger Elder Son February 14, 2017 11:35 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Rambam wrote:The swamp is undrainable. The vermin will take everyone down with them.

You're right! Everyone just give up now and go about your business being enslaved. What have you got to lose?


The point, is not that we should give up, but that Donald Trump is not going to save you.

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 11:38 PM  

Rambam wrote:Yea, I don't know if that Saker guy is on the up and up or a Russian asset. Think I'll quit reading him. ( for awhile anyway)

Look. It is not either/or. Use your judgement. Internet guys get a following by being right about stuff, but it does not mean they are always right.

Learn their biases, and read accordingly.

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 11:39 PM  

No don't give up. Die in defiance.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2017 11:44 PM  

Elder Son wrote:The point, is not that we should give up, but that Donald Trump is not going to save you.

Yes, ok, but the fact of Trump creates an environment where one can make progress on many levels, and people should take advantage of that as opportunity arises.

If the swamp does not get drained completely, at least people become aware that it IS a swamp.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2017 11:47 PM  

Oh please the attorney general will lean on the media for the sources the sources committed felonies and will go to jail

Just my opinion

Blogger Elder Son February 14, 2017 11:48 PM  

Rambam wrote:No don't give up. Die in defiance.

It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.


I'm 58 years old. Take a wild guess on how many years I have been hearing that? No one is living on their knees. They are willingly living in subjugation on their feet.

There are bad apples in the barrel. The barrel of apples needs to be burned.

Anonymous Rambam February 14, 2017 11:56 PM  

We are only in the beginnings of the birth pangs, people will be on their knees.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 15, 2017 12:37 AM  

@24
When will people stop thinking Trump somehow has to placate or compromise with the media to succeed?

I can't decide if the people who come up with this are cucks or deeper-than-average trolls. My guess is cuckservatives who have been media whipped so long they whine at just a shadow.

But we should note the Concern implied.

Blogger Wolfman at Large February 15, 2017 12:40 AM  

I'm seeing a lot of heresy here. Does no one have faith in the God-Emperor?

Blogger tuberman February 15, 2017 1:00 AM  

#61 Wolfman

Many have faith in the God-Emperor, but the rule here is "DON'T TOUCH THE POOP!"

Blogger Nick S February 15, 2017 1:08 AM  

Does no one have faith in the God-Emperor?

This sort of thing is smackdab in the middle of his wheelhouse. Maybe he'll fire a warning shot reminding the intelligentsia he has taken an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic...and that means internally as well as externally...Don't make me declare a state of emergency, boys. Nah, he wouldn't go that far, but I do think he has this under control. Probably waiting on Dan Coats to be confirmed before causing too much of a ruckus.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 15, 2017 1:15 AM  

Many or most here will not agree or care for this, but the Saker explains in dumbed-down language why this is a disaster:

What's more interesting than the Flynn resignation is the way some people -- usually people who are new here -- are so desperate to convince us that each new act by Trump is a disaster.

Wait, did I say interesting? I meant tiresome and predictable.

7-AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right?

No, Trump's character was not an unknown. That's the narrative that the left and their NeverTrump shills kept trying to sell us, though. You're several months behind the curve.

Anonymous Rambam February 15, 2017 1:19 AM  

Does anyone think Israel will take out Tehran after they've tested ballistic missiles or Damascus perhaps as a statement to them? Does the God Emperor control the throne of David? Are the Ayatollahs of Iran religious fanatics that have co-mingled Zoroastrtian concepts of a fiery end to the world with their Islam and nuclear weapons?

Anonymous Looking Glass February 15, 2017 1:21 AM  

The one thing Flynn couldn't do is dither on a hot-button topic. He's an old Intelligence hand, so the most likely scenario is that he simply dithered when confronted, while not actually remembering the conversation that well. It was the one thing he really couldn't do with regards to Trump: Trump is big on honesty among his inner circle. Add in the mistake with the Turkey contact and Flynn left himself exposed in exactly the one area he couldn't afford.

Now, is it good optics? No, of course not. The Media ramped up with their campaign after getting orders from their Deep State contacts. Though the campaign had clearly started a while ago, it only reached the Media this week. Cernovich is in high dudgeon because the Flynn family is clearly an information source for him, so his perspective is clearly a little compromised on this topic. Sure, I don't like losing an original Trump supporter, but there are certain mistakes that are unacceptable and Trump should have a deep collection of people to draw on for NSA role.

But, since this campaign is as much about PsyOps as anything else, this is about War Crimes in Syria. That's why Brennan was making such overtures before the Inauguration. Trump can drop a nuke on the CIA if he so chooses to, which is why they've been striking so early. Once he starts really getting new people in place, a lot of people are going to be looking to cut deals. I'm not a big fan of the results of the Church Commission, but we could use a new one.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 15, 2017 1:35 AM  

weston wrote:4-FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
Absolutely, 100% false.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 15, 2017 2:54 AM  

InfoGalactic Top news updates!!

Thrilled!!

Blogger Shimshon February 15, 2017 2:59 AM  

@64 "What's more interesting than the Flynn resignation is the way some people -- usually people who are new here -- are so desperate to convince us that each new act by Trump is a disaster."

The oppomedia still uses the words botched and bungled to describe the rollout of the infamous EO. It was nothing of the sort. It worked exactly as intended. Sob stories don't make it botched, buddy.

Anyway, watching now. Very glad you posted it after all. I'm having various issues.

1. The elapsed time was stuck at 7:05 for a while.

2. It stopped being stuck, but is now half off the bottom of the screen, so I can't see the time.

3. I've been getting the pauses and skips too. A couple times a minute, it pauses with the wait icon, then skips a few seconds to catch up.

4. I'm running in Brave. My i7 CPU is pegged. I hope they can solve this.

Otherwise, extremely impressive! GO ALT-TECH!!!

Blogger peter blandings February 15, 2017 3:20 AM  

to believe that flynn lied you would also have to believe that flynn was a loose cannon and called the ambassador on a wild emotional impulse when obammy expelled the 35 diplomats under false pretenses. that's a bit much for me. it is more likely that flynn was specifically tasked with making the call and assuaging the ambassador with specific offers. and does anybody think that trump is so naive that he thought flynn only talked about "golf and the grandkids" (sound familiar)? come on. this is bullshit. flynn shouldn't have been fired. mike is right; the media got a scalp and trump is weakened. as to making mistakes and coming back stronger, you don't get to make an infinite number of them. at some point you have to solo and the instructor isn't sitting beside you. if you haven't learned the control panel the plane crashes into the ground. trump is under threat and from time to time he is forced to knuckle under. he has to get out of that triangle. somehow.

Blogger Elder Son February 15, 2017 3:26 AM  

@65 Reality. When Turkey and the Saudi Coalition Sunni's roll into Shia Iran, maybe then we'll realize we chose the wrong side.

Anonymous JAG February 15, 2017 4:13 AM  

I can't get worried about this. No matter how hard I try, I just can't get worried despite the cucks, concern trolls, and leftists best efforts.

Zero fucks given.

Actually, since Flynn was a Democrat, this is addition by subtraction, and just gives further license to Trump to get rid of more career Democrats.

Anonymous weston February 15, 2017 4:32 AM  

Cail,

To me, this is the first major mistake by Trump. Most of the rest has been noise. That's why I posted. And he has done quite well on many things. Having said that, the high-level question is whether he can prosper with "experienced GOP hands" in various places - people like Priebus. Time will tell.

To say that we know Trump's character a few weeks into his administration is very debatable. Did we know Obama's at that point? When the CIA and generals come to Trump with some BS false flag story that could lead to war with Russia, what will he do? If some old friends came to Trump with proof that Priebus is working against him and even setting him up for a big problem, what would he do? And would that be different if his children liked Priebus and wanted Trump to moderate things in his fight with the establishment? How can we know?

Blogger Lazarus February 15, 2017 7:02 AM  

Rambam wrote:Are the Ayatollahs of Iran religious fanatics that have co-mingled Zoroastrtian concepts of a fiery end to the world with their Islam and nuclear weapons?

Possible Zoroastrian uprising slated for the ides of March.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 15, 2017 7:16 AM  

Yes, weston, we knew Obama's character well before he was elected, from his time in Illinois politics, his navel-gazing memoir, his bashing the grandmother who raised him because she was white, and his choice of pastor, among other things. If his character as president surprised you, you're an idiot.

Trump has been in the public eye for decades. If you thought we couldn't know anything about his character, you fell for a media/NeverTrump narrative, and should try to be less gullible.

The bigger picture here is the new narrative that Trump is always one small mistake away from disaster. That's nonsense. His approval ratings have been climbing. The American people, in general, are willing to grant a new president a breaking-in period anyway. They like the idea that everyone should rally around the new guy during the peaceful transition, and give him a chance to establish himself before attacking him. And after this emotional election, the wishy-washy middle is just glad it's over and doesn't want to hear about it for a while. (That's why the leftist riots are such bad strategy.)

The idea that it's a short trip from one bad appointment to disaster and impeachment is, again, a leftist/NeverTrump fantasy. Don't fall for it, or at least don't repeat it.

Blogger Old Ez February 15, 2017 8:38 AM  

I'm confused about why the "SJWs always..." blueprint doesn't apply to the Flynn situation. By accepting the resignation, Trump handed the media a confession. How is that not so? Or is the argument that bthe SJW formula only applies up to a certain level of political power? If so, that's a fair answer. But otherwise, can someone tell me what Trump *gained* by accepting the resignation? From what I can see, not only did he not gain anything, he's lost a lot. Bigly. Whoever told Trump to accept the resignation should be fired. Trump should have protect Flynn. Who is going to stick their neck out for Trump now, know they he won't protect them when the deep state SJWs trump up some flimsy pretext? Trump screwed up enormously by not protecting Flynn. At this point it looks like war is inevitable. If they can't maneuver Trump into war with Russia, they will attempt to remove him which will precipitate a domestic conflict in the US. Flynn was holding back the dogs of war, now the whole thing is back on. Spicer has already come out done a 180 claiming that "Trump" wants Crimea returned. Total insanity. Trump may have broken his own presidency by accepting the resignation. So again, can someone tell me why SJW always...doesn't apply in this case?

Blogger VD February 15, 2017 8:53 AM  

I'm confused about why the "SJWs always..." blueprint doesn't apply to the Flynn situation.

Because the media and the outside elements are not the issue. The issue is whether Trump felt he could trust Flynn or not.

By accepting the resignation, Trump handed the media a confession.

That's ridiculous. Either Flynn lied or he didn't lie. As I have said from the start, if Flynn lied to his team members, he had to go. If he did not, then yes, it was PROBABLY a mistake, unless Trump was seizing upon the opportunity to eject a neocon.

At this point it looks like war is inevitable. If they can't maneuver Trump into war with Russia, they will attempt to remove him which will precipitate a domestic conflict in the US.

That is simply stupid. War is very, very far from inevitable. And if the US starts a war with Russia, it will lose the entire east to China.

So again, can someone tell me why SJW always...doesn't apply in this case?

Because it has absolutely nothing to do with this. It doesn't apply to the Falcons' Super Bowl loss either.

Blogger VD February 15, 2017 8:54 AM  

FFS, how does ejecting "the hardest hardliner" on Russia make war with Russia MORE likely? The neocons are weeping over Flynn, they're not happy about it.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) February 15, 2017 9:04 AM  

If Flynn lied before he even took office, what else would he have lied about in the future? That's an unacceptable risk in any position, but especially the national security advisor.

Blogger Old Ez February 15, 2017 9:17 AM  

@VD what did Trump gain by accepting the resignation? What would he have lost if he protected Flynn? The idea that NSAs don't tell lies is naive. Supposing Flynn did lie, there's any number of valid reason for him to do that. This whole idea that "Flynn lied and betrayed Trump" is a media-concocted narrative and its sad to see so many nodding along with it. It is just a salve to let people side with the enemy with a clean conscience. Now any time the media wants to get rid of someone, they'll just say "he betrayed Trump" and Trump apparently won't contradict it out of not wanting to look weak and right-wingers will feel they need to rally to Trump...by accepting the media narrative.

Even if Trump was pissed off about the lying, he made a mistake by accepting the resignation. By accepting, Trump has only aggravated the situation and made it way worse than if he had protected Flynn. CNN this morning was saying Trump's entire staff was in contact with Russia before inauguration and they all need to step down. They wouldn't be saying that if Trump had done the right thing - they would be whining and pouting impotently. Now they are celebrating. And why not? If Trumping up a "betrayal" worked once, it will work again.

I'm telling you, on CNN last night it was like they whole anchor team had been snorting speed, they were that excited. Trump's presidency has now been crippled unless he carries out some kind of immediate, disproportionate and asymetrical retaliation to send the media and his enemies reeling. Something like pardoning Snowden would be appropriate even though Trump would never do that. But something on that scale. If he does not pivot hard and go on the offensive, he will be fatally weakened. With respect, Vox, I disagree. This was a text-book case of SJW swarm and Trump failed. He capitulated. There was petty legalism, application to amenable authority, swarming and demands for confessions. What proves that this was an SJW swarm more than anything is the subsequent media response to Trump's confession/capitulation: they didn't let off the gas, they mashed it down harder and demanding more resignations and investigations. We all like Trump and want to support him, but he made a mistake. He should have read SJWs Always Lie and he would have known that his way out was to protect Flynn and not give them SJWs one inch. Now he has given them an inch and they will have their mile, whether it requires war with Russia or Yugoslavia in the US.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) February 15, 2017 9:36 AM  

For the people in this thread going on how Trump should have "protected" Flynn and not fired him, have you ever actually worked with people?

Blogger Old Ez February 15, 2017 10:13 AM  

""the hardest hardliner" on Russia make war with Russia MORE likely? The neocons are weeping over Flynn, they're not happy about it."

You can't have it both ways. Either he was collaborating with Russians and hid it from Trump or he is anti-Russia. One narrative undercuts the other. The reality is, Flynn was on the horn with Russia because Prez Gay Mulatto was ratcheting up the war prep: expelling diplomats, massing troops, launching artillery volleys to send a message; Flynn most likely told the Russians to not respond until the new sheriff was in town. I look at what men like Flynn do, not what they say. I personally think his tough talk on Iran was just a rhetorical feint to keep the opposition off balance and give himself and Trump time and breathing space.

Blogger James Dixon February 15, 2017 10:14 AM  

I can watch Flash videos all day long on my computer, but for some reason the Gab TV replay stream never starts up. It just sits there looking like it's ready to play, but it never actually plays the video.

This is with Pale Moon, Firefix, and Opera. I also tried Pale Moon and Chrome on my one Windows box with the same results.

Blogger James Dixon February 15, 2017 10:35 AM  

So I tried here at work (Gab is not blocked, yet) with Chrome. Chrome brought up the screen with a box saying, "downloading", and then after a few minutes said "download failed". Chrome supposedly has Flash built in, so I'm not sure what it was trying to download.

Blogger Old Ez February 15, 2017 1:19 PM  

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/trump-crimea-russia-twitter-obama/index.html

'"the hardest hardliner" on Russia' leaves the administration and yet 24 hours later Russia "took" Crimea and World War 3 is back on. Mmmmmmmm....

Blogger Old Ez February 15, 2017 3:59 PM  

Sorry to keep harping, but more evidence that Flynn was a soft-coup: http://news.trust.org/item/20170215210136-7ct05

Pentagon may recommend U.S. deploy combat troops in Syria -CNN

Blogger peter blandings February 15, 2017 4:38 PM  

trump needs to appoint cernovich NSA. and then let mike be mike. problems solved.

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