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Tuesday, February 21, 2017

Mailvox: Facebook is the enemy

This is intriguing. First Twitter, now Facebook:
Heads up -- a good friend of mine just posted your Milo post on facebook when I sent it to him to his wall. We were chatting via PM about the topic and I watched on my phone as all of his messages turned into "your message has been flagged by facebook for spam."

His account is now gone and blocked. Everything about his posts have disappeared from my timeline, he can't get into his account.

We're headed for all-out war.
We are. And we're going to win. Because everything they do is built on lies. Spam indeed. This is yet another reminder of why we need to build our own platforms. And we will.

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86 Comments:

Anonymous Maj February 21, 2017 12:21 PM  

No fake Maj's on this thread, pls.

Anonymous #8601 February 21, 2017 12:24 PM  

Their next play is to trot out an underage boy who says Milo touched him inappropriately.

Blogger Gunnar Thalweg February 21, 2017 12:27 PM  

The day the Obergefell decision came down, something very very odd happened. I wrote out my explanation of why I thought this was an incorrect decision. I tried to post -- and Facebook wouldn't let me. In fact, I seemed to lose control of my account and the essay got erased before saying. Then I wrote my essay again, and I couldn't save it and again I seemed to lose control of my account and it wouldn't post.

After that, I got suspicious of Facebook. It definitely felt like someone was fighting me on that post, and that had never happened before.

So I believe there was something going on then.

And believe that this case VD posted about is intentional by Facebook. VD is correct: There must be alternative platforms.

Blogger Andrew Taylor February 21, 2017 12:27 PM  

"Delete your Facebook." - Poppy

Anonymous hoots February 21, 2017 12:31 PM  

I just bumped up my monthly Infogalactic contribution.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind February 21, 2017 12:33 PM  

I just tried posting it but had no issue. Maybe it takes a while.

I largely have FB for a martial arts forum that used to be run off a private server, but the owner was too cheap to maintain it.

Anonymous TheShrike February 21, 2017 12:33 PM  

Weird, I post a lot of your blog items onto my FB, and get nothing but flak from my former friends and acquaintances. I've never been flagged or banned though. Long before I had ever heard of the Alt-Right I had been called 'hateful' and 'racist' multiple times, so I couldn't care less about what all these DC bubble citizens think about me. I laugh at them, I ignore them, and I tell (some of) them #YouHaveToGoBack. Discovering the existence of the Alt-Right was such a breath of fresh air.

A lot of your commentary is perfectly suited to trigger massive mental anguish in liberals, so I usually post the article from the blog and pull out one of your quotes with zero commentary of my own. I don't even bother arguing with them afterwards. I just keep posting more and more extreme sounding things. We're already in a war with these people, so trying to maintain a relationship with them is pointless.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J February 21, 2017 12:38 PM  

I use FB to communicate with far flung family and friends. Just saw some claptrap about how awesome and monogamous and loving the Obanas are...whatever, don't want to see it, told FB so, still on my feed. F them.

I'm joining Burn Unit today. Was never part of Twitter and have Gab but don't know if it's useful yet. Going to sell my Samsung Google TV too. They can hear you speak...so can iPhone and Galaxy, etc. you say it, the algos pick up, and bam! spam, ads, sidebars, etc. have your number.

How do you wake a sleeper, though? That's my challenge, presently. Hammers don't work, feathers too subtle. I can't get the tech out of my house until he says ok.

Blogger SmockMan February 21, 2017 12:40 PM  

I deleted my facebook a year ago. There is no point to it.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 21, 2017 12:41 PM  

The power of meta data is they can get a good idea who's going to respond to what. So as long as you add a "fuzz" factor into your censorship algorithms, it's almost impossible to prove them. You just live the biggest names and the no-names.

This is why they target the mid-level names or people who have an influence sphere larger than most realize. Those are actually the players that will create Viral content, which gets repeated by the bigger names. Devious stuff, but we're dealing with people that have sold their souls, so that's to be expected.

Anonymous Iacobus February 21, 2017 12:41 PM  

I can't wait for Facebook, along with Twitter, to be the next Myspace. Mark Zuckerberg can go die in a fire.

Blogger Jon D. February 21, 2017 12:42 PM  

@7 @8 might require someone to report it.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2017 12:42 PM  

Is there some what to use this to get them to delete millions of accounts?

Blogger Wanderer February 21, 2017 12:43 PM  

http://www.infowars.com/mark-zuckerberg-caught-on-hot-mic-saying-facebook-will-censor-anti-migrant-posts/

No surprises here

Anonymous #8601 February 21, 2017 12:43 PM  

I started using Facebook after Milo was banned from Twitter. It became the best way to follow him.

CULater, FB.

Blogger Robert Divinity February 21, 2017 12:45 PM  

Their next play is to trot out an underage boy who says Milo touched him inappropriately.

Quite likely a boy who recently turned 18. Also anticipate a "national discussion" on the horrors of, say, child trafficking, since that avoids a discussion of outright pedophilia, which seems to be a favorite left-wing pastime.

Blogger VD February 21, 2017 12:48 PM  

I just bumped up my monthly Infogalactic contribution.

And we do appreciate it. Thanks.

Anonymous A VFM February 21, 2017 12:49 PM  

There are days I think the only way the media will ever learn to stop this lying and character assassination is if we start shooting them. Preferably in public view.

Anonymous old man in a villa February 21, 2017 12:50 PM  

Facebook? Really?

*checks calendar*

Today has been like a visit to an alternative reality.

Blogger JWM in SD February 21, 2017 1:01 PM  

Just heard that INFOWARS was banned from internet advertising. I'm not sure of details though.

Blogger VFM #407 February 21, 2017 1:01 PM  

Sounds like it's time for SocialGalactic.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable February 21, 2017 1:02 PM  

I just bumped up my monthly Infogalactic contribution.

Likewise. Now's the time to put our money where our mouths are.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable February 21, 2017 1:04 PM  

Sounds like it's time for SocialGalactic.

I totally agree, but the SDL can't do EVERYTHING.

Can he?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus February 21, 2017 1:06 PM  

You know, I tried to justify keeping FB as a way of keeping up with family members, etc.

Eventually, I just contacted the ones I really wanted to keep in touch with by messenger, got their emails, and then deleted my FB permanently. Between the censorship and the left-wing idiots, it just isn't worth giving them the ad revenue.

Anonymous grumblr February 21, 2017 1:11 PM  

I had a look at Facebook (w/o signing up) pretty early on in its existence, and I said to myself, This is going to turn into a massive vehicle for invasion of privacy and other horrors. Drew a magic circle around it to keep it away, and never seen it since. Don't know why anyone's still on it.

@3 - not a tech fix for a disappearing essay, but if you're taking the trouble to write a long piece, write it in Word and save it first, so if the tech Nazis erase it, you can still find a platform for it elsewhere. Kinda obvious, maybe you already did that, but it sounds like you wrote it twice. I'm sure you have better things to do.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable February 21, 2017 1:15 PM  

not a tech fix for a disappearing essay

Or if you're too lazy to open a new Word file, just Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C before sending the comment so you have it in your buffer if you need to resend. That's what I do every time I have a comment longer than a couple of words because I've been burned at least 25% of the time.

Anonymous #8601 February 21, 2017 1:15 PM  

Me thinks we will also require our own hardware. I certainly don't trust iphones, and probably not androids, either.

I hear Blackberry is looking for a buyer.

Blogger Sean Carnegie February 21, 2017 1:16 PM  

Sounds like it's time for SocialGalactic.

That's already in existence. Try Gab.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind February 21, 2017 1:21 PM  

@10 :
It's actually quite comical how bad their profiling is.

https://www.facebook.com/help/247395082112892 discloses how to check your ad preferences, which it determines mostly based off likes.

I checked mine and most of the stuff was horibly wrong, for example with respect to politics it reported me as liberal. Of course, my FB is under my real name, but all the other info is totally wrong. Friends of mine in law enforcement have often said they check archived versions of FB pages, so its not a bad idea of have an inaccurate profile.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky February 21, 2017 1:32 PM  

Additionally, beware of the Facebook mobile app. Two years ago my buddies and I at work noticed that something on our phones was eavesdropping on our convos. It was running speech recognition algorithms on us, picking out topics of interest to sell to advertisers. We did a few tests and proved, to our satisfaction at least, that the Facebook app was doing this.

I haven't had the FB app on any of my phones since. Too much opportunity for mischief, for one thing. And besides, why be a product for Zuckerberg to sell? That's what you are on FB. Zuck's product to move.

Blogger Paul February 21, 2017 1:36 PM  

What is Facebook good for?

It's a massive reference file of political orientations and employment, just in case some faction might want to know.

Just imagine a number of distributed Altbooks digesting Facebook, then running their own queries on the data.

Data ain't got no allegiances.

Blogger Kettle February 21, 2017 1:41 PM  

Use their own tools against them. If you chose to have a facebook profile, for whatever reason, make sure you follow and like things that would never match your "real" profile. have them chase a ghost.

As an alternative, the tools are already out there to do extensive network analysis to figure out who key nodes are in the social networks. run the analysis and then target your messages and influencing activities towards those people in "meatspace". Facebook and social media can be used against themselves with a little social coordination such as is developing among the Alt-right

Blogger Casher O'Neill February 21, 2017 1:43 PM  

Facebook is an enemy and your efforts to build parallel platforms is praiseworthy, but Wikipedia and Twitter are disposable nothings and easier targets. I remember when a certain small company called Google tried to take on Facebook. While Balkanizing the internet may be useful in some ways, it does not help with broader information operations especially where they can reach outsiders through a picture and social event site focusing on long-term mostly-casual acquaintances.
Making Facebook into a utility may be the better option here, though that is up to Trump, Bannon, and the inspiring GOPe congressional leadership.

When I said a little over a month ago: I definitely don't see Milo departing unless the movement actually turns authoritarian, secures power, and turns on degeneracy... He's got intelligence and drive, but flamboyance like his is a lot less charming at 40 (not to mention burn-out risk), I definitely forgot that there was no consensus with the left on anything, least of all that the right had any right to any opinions unorthodox or unorthadox or any level of (perceived) degeneracy. Milo looks to be flaming out (if you'll pardon the pun) on one of the issues he built his fame on, his flamboyance. This was a bad long term strategy given at least part of the future alt-right coalition's (i.e., Christian or morally conservative for sociological reasons, a much larger part one might add) low tolerance for preening that is common in his community. Where we cannot replicate or where it is not worth the effort, we must capture. The easiest institutions to capture are those that are closest to us. CPAC and Breitbart are still more important than an individual journalist like Milo will ever be (yes he's Vox's friend, but the rest of us never had to pin any hopes to him.) As far as capturing Facebook by regulation: Zuckerberg loved him some big government, let government "love" him right back.

John Robb has something up that is worth thinking about. A decent primer for the uninitiated and overview for the initiated. The left is becoming aware and adapting, we must too. http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2017/02/three-choices.html

Blogger Kettle February 21, 2017 1:52 PM  

half of that work is already being done by some alt-right groups. look at tools like Maltego that automatically map social media accounts and build profiles.

Anonymous Honest Questions February 21, 2017 2:00 PM  

- what is your timeline for a Civil War 2?

- has it increased or stayed the same since January?

- if a coup is attempted, would you support a Dictator Trump?

Blogger lowercaseb February 21, 2017 2:11 PM  

Clean up on isle 35...

Blogger Dirk Manly February 21, 2017 2:14 PM  

@ Midnight Avenue J

Have a garage sale and sell it all to the SJW types and others who you don't like.

Anonymous Iron Spartan February 21, 2017 2:16 PM  

Is there an Alt-Tech version of Feecesbook being developed?

Blogger Dirk Manly February 21, 2017 2:19 PM  

A VFM

Don't worry -- the public is rapidly approaching the point of accepting death for those who foment media lynch-mobs.

Blogger Dirk Manly February 21, 2017 2:21 PM  

@old man in a 2-story outhouse

Maybe you oughta get your head out of the outhousr sump and see what the world is like these days.

Blogger Jack Ward February 21, 2017 2:21 PM  

It's remarkable and amazing just how far the Alt-Right/White has developed these new platforms. Don't know if it was Gab-TV or the latest update to Pale Moon but, last evening was the very first time I was able to get Vox darkstream to work. A bit clunky but WTF, it worked.
And, this was without flash player installed [which I hate the thought of that thing being on my laptop]

Anonymous Inquiring Minds February 21, 2017 2:26 PM  

I will be the first to admit that I don't know how feasible the strategy is in terms of getting the actors moving, but hypothetically one could take the logic of the insane move on the Redskins by the Trademark office and strip all IP protections from FB because exploiting it's government-granted monopoly to enforce an ideological agenda is contrary to public policy.

Blogger SouthRon February 21, 2017 2:26 PM  

FB is a couple orders of magnitude harder and more expensive than replacing Twitter. All in good time.

Anonymous BBGKB February 21, 2017 2:38 PM  

I don't know if fakebook would be profitable if it didn't sell peoples data.

There are days I think the only way the media will ever learn to stop this lying and character assassination is if we start shooting them.

Wasn't there a "you lie you die" to journalists in one of Kratman's books?

Anonymous BluePony February 21, 2017 2:44 PM  

I only have a FB account for capturing screen shots from various games and platforms. As far as FB (and Google) knows, I'm a 22 year old super hot Japanese lesbian pursuing a veterinary degree at UCLA.

Blogger Dirk Manly February 21, 2017 2:51 PM  

I'm sure you are, BluePony. I'm sure you are.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 21, 2017 2:55 PM  

BluePony wrote:I only have a FB account for capturing screen shots from various games and platforms. As far as FB (and Google) knows, I'm a 22 year old super hot Japanese lesbian pursuing a veterinary degree at UCLA.

Careful, with a profile like that Zuckercuck might pay you a personal visit.

Anonymous grumblr February 21, 2017 3:02 PM  

I do hope somebody is busily at work on Racebook.

Blogger Brian S February 21, 2017 3:08 PM  

no one is replacing FB (or google, or amazon) anytime soon, they run on multiple enormous server farms, with billions in hardware & assets. A start up couldn't even pay the utility bill for ONE of these facilities.

Anonymous Fran February 21, 2017 3:11 PM  

I guess FB is allowing for Milo's press conference release on the newsfeeds.
His reinstatement is probably pending public perceptoin..I don't know but I just saw this just now.

Anonymous Susan February 21, 2017 3:15 PM  

There is an option here folks. In fact, it was one of the commenters here who gave me the link.

MeWe.com is the FB alternative. Totally conservative, will not data mine or sell your info, privacy is a big thing, and the guy who actually invented the internet is on their board of advisers.

Blogger Tom February 21, 2017 3:23 PM  

These mf'ers keep doubling and doubling down again. They want all out war and are doomed to losing. I'm hoisting the black flag and breaking out the sharpening stone. They cannot leave us be..bring itm.

Blogger Robert Browning February 21, 2017 3:49 PM  

the Jews always over react and always go to far. I get the feeling this is going to back fire.

Anonymous Fran February 21, 2017 4:00 PM  

@51
Al Gore is on the board of advisers?

Anonymous Edjamacator February 21, 2017 4:19 PM  

Susan wrote:MeWe.com is the FB alternative.

There's also teapartycommunity.com. I know, I know, but there are some there who sound alt-right or bordering on it, and there's enough cuck targets to redpill. It's not exactly like FB, as the most frequent action is a person posting a link to a news article or whatever and people commenting on it. I've seen the "typical" FB post with just a meme being shared, but it's mostly the former activity taking place. I post a lot of VD stuff there throwing redpills out and sometimes I'm surprised by the comments that are in agreement. Quite a few "Muh Constitution" types to swipe at if you feel like it, too. Some kind of fear the alt-right will take it over, so why not? ;) The owners are huge Trump supporters and even when NTs would scream and yell about it, they were left alone, so I don't see any censorship going on.

Blogger SteelPalm February 21, 2017 5:08 PM  

Why is this surprising about Facebook? I was permanently locked out of my account in the middle of 2016, when they demanded I provide picture ID to confirm my real name. (Yes, seriously, the same globalist scumbags who don't believe in picture ID for national elections require it for being a member of their shitty website)

However, Facebook is likely a bit better than Twitter, since Milo still has his Facebook account, whereas Twitter perma-banned him.

Blogger Ceasar February 21, 2017 5:27 PM  

Better these losers try to filter and no platform now. Gives opportunity and NEED to develop alternatives in time for 2020.

These tactics of theirs might work if it's 3-6 months before an election. This seems like desperation on their part. They are running out of bullets.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 21, 2017 5:29 PM  

@27 - Me thinks we will also require our own hardware. I certainly don't trust iphones, and probably not androids, either.

Despite its Linux underpinnings, Android is exploited on a weekly basis. The primary problem seems to be that Google cannot effectively push updates the way Apple can. On that point it seems they gave 3rd party manufacturers a bit too much freedom.

I know I'm going to get flak for saying this, but at the moment I still trust Apple's stuff. For some reason there is a strong privacy streak in that company. I don't know if it's a legacy leftover from Jobs, or if it's due to some other aspect of their corporate evolution/culture. And I don't know how long it will survive their convergence.

But their engineering (Secure Enclave in particular), public business decisions, and security related options all point to a company that's actually doing something about privacy. Who else in the valley would go to war with the FBI? Google? Fakebook?

Firewall logs of Apple's products calling home seem to back this up. They do call home. But URLs/times/data sent all seem legit. And it's easy to block because they only call Apple. Contrast this with Windows 10 which collects and broadcasts massive amounts of data not only to Microsoft, but to multiple 3rd parties. And when you try to block it, it redirects. If you're running Windows 10...or Windows 7/8 without blocking the telemetry updates...then you might as well post weekly backups of all your data to Github.

Of course the risk with Apple is that the converged elements will win out. And the risk with anyone...and I mean anyone...is that human beings simply cannot make something as complex as a modern computer and OS 100% secure. Not unless you leave out all networking.

I'm typing too much...the tl;dr is that your best bet for a secure mobile phone today is probably Blackberry or iPhone. Secure computer? One of the security orientated Linux distros on hardware that appears backdoor free (for the moment) or a Mac.

And yes, we may very well end up needing our own hardware.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 21, 2017 5:50 PM  

All glory, as Farcebook fails and twatters/twitter fails into the joke it was on its users as "dumb f-cks" per Zuckerberg himself.

Horrible platform, horrible pple, but they were used and used well to communicate a host of messages.

POTUS TRUMP twitter is now discarded.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 21, 2017 5:52 PM  

Gab: Right.

Facebook to Twiiter; Left or people still trying to help the lessers. Maybe they can be reached or not. ZFG.

Anonymous Bird on a Wing February 21, 2017 5:52 PM  

I think they're trying to derail the momentum by crucifying Milo. But they're letting the strings show and people are starting to notice.

They're really scared.

Blogger Buybuydandavis February 21, 2017 6:10 PM  

The interesting part is not what they're doing, but who they're doing it to.

Going so hard after people linked to Vox is evidence of more competence than I had expected.

Blogger VD February 21, 2017 6:19 PM  

I know I'm going to get flak for saying this, but at the moment I still trust Apple's stuff.

That's crazy. You know they are keeping the Gab app off iOS. No doubt they'd do the same to an Infogalactic one, if we ever submitted one, which we won't.

Blogger B.J. February 21, 2017 7:00 PM  

Hey Vox, is castalia going to publish Milo? I'd buy it.

Blogger JWM in SD February 21, 2017 7:08 PM  

"I think they're trying to derail the momentum by crucifying Milo. But they're letting the strings show and people are starting to notice. They're really scared."

It's Pizzagate...It's the recent arrests...the circle was tightening and forced a reaction by Brock...They're fucked and know it.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2017 7:26 PM  

Send your open letter to Stephen Miller:

openlettertostephenmiller@gmail.com.

The perps might not expect the sorts of letters they are going to get.

Blogger The Other Robot February 21, 2017 7:28 PM  

https://gab.ai/Ricky_Vaughn99/posts/5435990

Blogger Unknown February 21, 2017 7:48 PM  

Alternative platforms are great...unless they never approve you. Been waiting for months on Gab.

Blogger Sagramore February 21, 2017 7:58 PM  

@7 Don't read the comments. I never do, except if it's something that I personally composed. Facebook reposts are just agitprop, it's not supposed to be debate. Rhetoric, not dialectic.

Blogger JWM in SD February 21, 2017 8:06 PM  

That's strange Unknown, I got access to GAB within 48 hours. Wonder why that is...

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 21, 2017 8:38 PM  

@63 - That's crazy. You know they are keeping the Gab app off iOS. No doubt they'd do the same to an Infogalactic one, if we ever submitted one, which we won't.

Yes, but that's a separate issue from security/privacy. I'm well aware that they are a converged organization and that they use the iOS 'walled garden' to discriminate among app publishers. I'm also aware that their convergence means they may someday sacrifice security/privacy at the alter of political correctness. I watch them with a wary eye.

But at the moment they are ahead of most other tech firms when it comes to respecting user privacy and engineering secure systems. (Secure Enclave is brilliant.) Short of a new phone that runs a security focused Linux distro, our choices today are Blackberry and iPhone.

Side note: nothing is secure if you put crap apps on it. Exhibit A: anything from Facebook. Exhibit B: anything from Microsoft.

Blogger Kona Commuter February 21, 2017 8:38 PM  

I loathe farcebook so very much. I get quite worked up when family or friends talk about it when I try to point out how much personal data they are giving out for free.

Do you pay to use facebook? No, where is Facebook getting it's money from? Why would it be worth so much if all it's got is.... well all your personal details and I mean ALL? Err, you don't know what you're talking about!

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 21, 2017 8:46 PM  

@71 - you and me both. I have never had a Fakebook account. When people ask why, I compare FB to a creepy uncle who wants to take your child on a camping trip.

Aside from being a drama inducing waste of time, Facebook is quite frankly dangerous.

Blogger DeploraBard February 21, 2017 9:02 PM  

All,
Here is an interesting perspective on FB and fake news.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/why-does-so-much-fake-news-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-311062

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot February 21, 2017 9:22 PM  

Honest Questions @35: If anyone here had inside knowledge of Donald Trump and a potential Thanatos Gambit, do you think for a second that they'd just share the specifics of that with you?

How many times do we have to tell you lot: the first rule of Leo Strauss Fight Club is that you do not talk about Leo Strauss Fight Club.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot February 21, 2017 9:32 PM  

Vox @63: "That's crazy. You know they are keeping the Gab app off iOS. No doubt they'd do the same to an Infogalactic one ..."

This sounds like an opportunity for helping people liberate their Apple devices from the Apple ecosystem.

If I could reliably jailbreak two of my older Apple devices, I'd install Cydia and use whatever Cydia Marketplace offers.

Why not hoist assist in hoisting the Jolly Roger and beginning to slit Apple's throat by making your apps available only for Apple devices that have jailbreaks?

Die Totaler Krieg ist ein Unterhaltsam Krieg! :-)

(or a War on Entertainment, anyway ...)

Blogger Unknown February 21, 2017 10:13 PM  

Would love to try Gab. But being forever stuck on a waitlist prevents that.

Blogger Centurion Revolt February 21, 2017 10:27 PM  

Not quite

Blogger Revelation Means Hope February 22, 2017 1:08 AM  

What ever makes you think that Apple takes security and privacy seriously?
Because IN PUBLIC they opposed the FBI request?
They are some of the biggest liars, I'm certain they were working with the FBI to crack that device.

Also, earlier releases of data (from Snowden? Don't remember) showed that the NSA had pretty much an open door into Apple devices. Which I use, but they pretty much have those doors in most tech platforms now. Not all, but most.

Blogger JP February 22, 2017 2:00 AM  

Well if one has to eat spoonfuls of something, I'd have spam before bullshit every single time

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 22, 2017 2:45 AM  

@77 - What ever makes you think that Apple takes security and privacy seriously? Because IN PUBLIC they opposed the FBI request?

If you have evidence that it was a "show", present it.

They are some of the biggest liars, I'm certain they were working with the FBI to crack that device.

If they were liars then they wouldn't have to work to crack the phone. They would have handed the FBI a backdoor on day one.

Also, earlier releases of data (from Snowden? Don't remember) showed that the NSA had pretty much an open door into Apple devices.

Except they didn't show that. There is no indication of a compromise in iOS or macOS data encryption absent malware being installed on the machine before recovery is attempted. Hence the FBI difficulty with a 5c that didn't even have the SE chip.

Don't confuse reports of NSA malware or network taps with hardware back doors, encryption compromises, or zero day exploits.

Once again, nothing is 100% secure. Even AES could fall to quantum computing or even to some major discovery in mathematics. But at this time there's no more reason to doubt Apple then there is to doubt Blackberry or Linux.

That doesn't mean you have to love Apple. They are converged. They do discriminate in their app store. But they are not openly, purposefully performing mass surveillance on their customers like Facebook and Microsoft.

Blogger Tom Kratman February 22, 2017 3:40 AM  

"Wasn't there a "you lie you die" to journalists in one of Kratman's books?"

Carnifex.

Anonymous SecondTime February 22, 2017 3:46 AM  

Curious thing on Milo's Facebook page. Earlier today, he has 35,000 five star reviews. Now he has 27,000. He had 10,000 one star reviews. Now he has 25,000. Is it reasonable to believe that 8000 people went in today and changed or deleted their reviews or is something else going on? If it had just been the influx of low reviews, I could understand.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 22, 2017 4:37 AM  

@81 - Is it reasonable to believe that 8000 people went in today and changed or deleted their reviews or is something else going on?

Maybe. I talked to a few people yesterday who knew who Milo was. And I had to explain to every single one of them that Milo did not endorse pedophilia. Not one of them had put in the minimal effort required to watch the actual interview. Yet they were ready to discuss and/or debate the issue as if they had.

Far too many people behave as if hearing something on the news is just as good as reviewing source material. It's global game of "My local news anchor has a wife whose son was watching CNN when they reported that MSNBC discovered AP had published a story about a guy whose cousin interviewed a friend who swears Milo is a pedo! Can you believe it?"

Blogger Crowhill February 22, 2017 11:56 AM  

1. Social media platforms are very effective at spreading a point of view.

2. The owners of the social media platform want to promote good thinking and discourage bad thinking.

3. The technologies on these platforms allow the owners to know more about you than you know about yourself, by tracking what you click on, what you like, who your friends are, etc.

4. There is a science to manipulating people to accept a certain point of view based on their political leanings.

5. Artificial intelligence is able to write (or rewrite) stories taking all that data into account.

The conclusion is rather obvious, isn’t it? Social media platforms will increasingly use a combination of data, AI and manipulation techniques to push people towards "good thinking."

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