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Thursday, February 02, 2017

Milo brings the chaos to Berkeley

Milo ends his campus tour with a bang:
Protesters armed with bricks and fireworks mounted an assault on the building hosting a speech by polarizing Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos Wednesday night, forcing the event’s cancellation.

Several injuries have been reported and at least four banks have been vandalized after demonstrators marched away from the scene of a violent protest at the canceled speaking event by controversial far-right writer and speaker Yiannopoulos on the University of California at Berkeley campus.

UC Berkeley officials said the protest was infiltrated by vandals.

Yiannopoulos was making the last stop of a tour aimed at defying what he calls an epidemic of political correctness on college campuses.

With masked activists joining the already large group of protesters gathered in the area between Sather Gate and the north end of Telegraph Avenue as night fell, campus police were holding their positions near the entrance of the Martin Luther King Jr. Student Union building hosting the event.

As the gathered crowd got more agitated, masked “black bloc” activists began hurling projectiles including bricks, lit fireworks and rocks at the building and police.

Some used police barriers as battering rams to attack the doors of the venue, breaching at least one of the doors and entering the venue on the first floor.

In addition to fireworks being thrown up onto the second-floor balcony, fires were lit outside the venue, including one that engulfed a gas-powered portable floodlight.

The area on Upper Sproul Plaza grew thick with smoke, and later tear gas, as the protest intensified.

At about 6:20 p.m., UC campus police announced that the event had been cancelled. Officers ordered the crowd to disperse, calling it an unlawful assembly.

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127 Comments:

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 02, 2017 5:41 AM  

Anybody on our side that can't admire Milo's courage is too stupid to be of any use whatsoever.

Blogger JACIII February 02, 2017 5:48 AM  

I'm starting to thing Obama's justice department was on to something about domestic terrorists. Those "people" in masks and hoodies burning stuff must be who they were talking about.

Blogger Wiseagle February 02, 2017 5:48 AM  

I love the irony. They try to shut him up but he gets extended time on Tucker's show instead. Smart move!

Blogger Gapeseed February 02, 2017 5:54 AM  

I saw James O'Keefe speak at a private function on Sunday evening, only to have the event disrupted by a pair of obnoxious lefty agitators.

When I see this violence, the likely recoil by American voters, and the propensity of the Left to double down (which itself is the sin of pride and inability to ever admit fault), I wonder at what point the Left resorts to assassination of private citizens like Milo and O'Keefe to achieve their ends.

Blogger Gordon February 02, 2017 5:55 AM  

I'm thinking one should be wearing some long sleeved shirt. When one of these little monsters starts to get in your face, one simply, quietly, reaches out and touches him, with the high voltage stunner that was resting inside the sleeve.

Oh my! He just collapsed! Can we get some help over here before his fellow anarchists trample him?

Blogger American Spartan February 02, 2017 6:18 AM  

Give them a whiff of grapeshot

Blogger American Spartan February 02, 2017 6:19 AM  

Gapeseed wrote:I saw James O'Keefe speak at a private function on Sunday evening, only to have the event disrupted by a pair of obnoxious lefty agitators.

When I see this violence, the likely recoil by American voters, and the propensity of the Left to double down (which itself is the sin of pride and inability to ever admit fault), I wonder at what point the Left resorts to assassination of private citizens like Milo and O'Keefe to achieve their ends.


They start this, we will end it. And remember who are the cops, SWAT, MIL and makes up a vast majority of the gun owners in this nation.....

Anonymous CloseHauled February 02, 2017 6:33 AM  

Looks like they may have found the guy who seriously hurt (killed?) the guy that was knocked out:
https://8ch.net/pol/res/9111463.html

Blogger Lazarus February 02, 2017 6:36 AM  

Informative article linked on these type of mobs by Elder Son (comment 3 in the DNC DOUBLES DOWN thread). Oath Keepers have infiltrated some groups.

There are 4 groups involved, and you can see them all in the above Video (well, all but the cops, which is how they enable)

1. Liberal Socialist (brainwashed academics, the most useless of the groups)
2. Communist ( a coalition of racist anti-white groups, queers and enviro-fascists)
3. Anarchist (most militant and organized)
4. Cops as enablers

It was pretty much the same back in the day, except the cops had not signed on yet. They seemed rather belligerent about the whole thing for some reason.

Anonymous scourer of the shire February 02, 2017 6:45 AM  

Another embarrassment caused by Milo, and even more of undeserved support from the side he keeps embarrassing...

Blogger Antony February 02, 2017 6:48 AM  

One brave man with experience of facing violent leftist/islamist demonstrators is Tommy Robinson - founder of the English Defence League - I've often thought it would be worth Vox,Milo and Stefan doing webcast interviews with him to get his take on the increasingly violent situation ; https://www.facebook.com/pg/thetommyrobinson/posts/?ref=page_internal

Blogger chris February 02, 2017 6:50 AM  

Trump should use this as an opportunity to use Title IX to shut down all the Critical Theory/Cultural Marxist/Gender-Race Theory subjects on the basis that they are creating a hostile environment to whites/men and use the violence of this protest and the complicity of the Berkeley administrations as evidence of that hostile environment.

Title IX:
No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 02, 2017 6:51 AM  

Trump just tweeted that he's considering pulling Federal funding from UC Berkley. And I'm not tired of winning yet!

Blogger Ghesthar February 02, 2017 6:51 AM  

It's funny how every time 'the left' holds a lovely peaceful protest those nasty old black bloc show up to attack the left's political enemies, and anyone/anything that happens to be in the way. If only there were ever a huge mob of loving peaceful people on hand who might disagree with their actions enough to at least express outrage.

Anonymous Magus February 02, 2017 6:54 AM  

@11 - Second that. Tommy's a very interesting guy. He's a bit of a lad, so he was drawn into the more jackboot side of things early on. Wound up in prison for punching an off-duty cop in the pub. Mellowed out since he now has his own kids to take care of, disavowed the jackboots. Just brings a really interesting perspective, since he's a passionate guy with a colourful history, but is now a lot more media aware and capable of presenting an intellectual argument. Him and Vox would have a lot to talk about.

Dave Rubin did a good interview with him actually:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQOkrwJXRFQ

Anonymous Be Deplorable, Not Afraid February 02, 2017 6:56 AM  

Muslim DNC chair + leftist nutjobs tossing Molotov cocktails at a building with people inside = interesting times ahead.

Anonymous Garrulus February 02, 2017 6:59 AM  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827112633224544256

Blogger S1AL February 02, 2017 7:04 AM  

"Anybody on our side that can't admire Milo's courage is too stupid to be of any use whatsoever."

But Cataline, did you know he's gay??

/s

Blogger Antony February 02, 2017 7:05 AM  

15 Magus - yes, his background originally was in Luton Town Football Club's hooligan firm the Luton MIGS (Men In Gear), to get to the football ground they had to pass through the heavily islamised Bury Park area, which involved , er, "fisticuffs" with muslims who attacked them, coupled with this , there was continual anti white background violence in Luton, together with heroin dealing to the youths and grooming of white girls, it came to a head when muslims gathered to abuse troops just returning from serving in Afghanistan, the angry Lutonians formed the EDL, his book is an excellent read ; https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommy-Robinson-Enemy-State/dp/0957096496

Blogger Stilicho February 02, 2017 7:05 AM  

"Far-right" since when? "infiltrated" yeah, right. "four banks...vandalized" naturally.

Anonymous Dyskord February 02, 2017 7:08 AM  

Expell the snowflakes.
Defund the Social Sciences and anything with studies in the title i.e Womens studies, African American Studies etc
In fact defund all courses which do not enable students to achieve gainful employment after graduation.
Kick the left wing Communists where it hurts in the wallet.

Blogger Deplorable February 02, 2017 7:11 AM  

I trust something is being done behind the scenes to stem this flood of leftist violence.
The Emperor protects.

Blogger wreckage February 02, 2017 7:27 AM  

Start fucking with everyone who shows up at protests that turn violent. It doesn't need to be extreme. Cut funds, end scholarships, and enact relatively benign legal proceedings. Nothing glorious, just process them for every minor, shitty offense they might have committed.

The process is the punishment. These people are accustomed to impunity, and as Vox so often points out, they are extremely averse to discomfort. You don't need to destroy the vast majority of them; you just need to fuck them over in a long, slow, and miserable way.

This is exactly what they do to their enemies; turn it on them.

Anonymous Garrulus February 02, 2017 7:31 AM  

Dangerous violence applied by AFAs seems to be escalating, alot of darkies too at berkely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCN0R2HDxH8
https://twitter.com/MisterMetokur/status/826991184635654145

Anonymous SugarPi February 02, 2017 7:41 AM  

Contrast this event with his visit to Clemson University in SC... you already know where this is going, but here's the icing on top. Milo was so well received that at the end of his speech he told the crowd to text him with the name of the nightspot they'd be attending and he'd go to the one most mentioned. See, it was his birthday and the party didn't need to end.
Freedom of speech isn't dead on college campuses, if you go to the right ones. Rousing chorus of "Dixie," please.

Anonymous PinochetsChopperPilot February 02, 2017 7:42 AM  

I could totally see some fringe alt-righters "gas lighting" liberal campuses or cities by concern trolling: "Hey, I don't know if it matters, but I just saw Milo Yiannopoulos get off a city bus headed somewhere...I'll tweet and post on FB just to let people know to be careful".

Carnage ensues, cities, campuses rekt by Antifa...Milo phones in his response from 3,000 mile away.

Blogger John Wright February 02, 2017 7:48 AM  

"... controversial far-right writer..."

Since when is being a pro free speech gay man "controversial"? In what way is he "far-right"?

Liars. Punch back twice as hard.

Anonymous Magus February 02, 2017 7:49 AM  

@19 - Yeah, his story is a prime example of exactly what Vox talks about: this isn't about what we want to happen or do, this is about trends and what *will* happen and what people *will have to do*.

Defo gonna give his book a read.

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 02, 2017 7:51 AM  

Braaiiinnns....

Anonymous Eduardo February 02, 2017 7:52 AM  

Oh no! Mr Pear has become a zombie, QUICK throw him a SJW so we can escape!

Anonymous Athor Pel February 02, 2017 7:57 AM  

"...
UC Berkeley officials said the protest was infiltrated by vandals.
..."



Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Vandals.

But then I go looking for more ancient German tribes.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Germanic_peoples

Then I read this about Germanic influence during the 'fall' of the western Roman Empire.
"According to noted historian Herwig Wolfram, the Germanic peoples did not and could not "conquer the more advanced Roman world" nor were they able to "restore it as a political and economic entity"; instead, he asserts that the empire's "universalism" was replaced by "tribal particularism" which gave way to "regional patriotism."[139] "

Boy does that sound familiar.

Anonymous Mark Auld February 02, 2017 7:57 AM  

May we live in interesting times indeed

Blogger JP February 02, 2017 7:58 AM  

Wait, Milo is GAY? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 02, 2017 7:59 AM  

Dyskord, expelling them is ridiculous. This is the logical end game of education.

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 02, 2017 8:00 AM  

In fact, I'd say these are the best possible students without irony. They're just ahead of their time.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 02, 2017 8:13 AM  

Eduardo wrote:Oh no! Mr Pear has become a zombie, QUICK throw him a SJW so we can escape!

No, no Eduardo, Mr. Pear wants _brains_. SJWs won't distract him.

Anonymous Eduardo February 02, 2017 8:18 AM  

@36

:O... You are right. We have to throw something else. What if we throw scare crows and plushies?

*Great comment man, I should thought about that*

Blogger Cail Corishev February 02, 2017 8:21 AM  

"at least four banks have been vandalized"

Banks? Don't these rioters know who's funding them?

Blogger Student in Blue February 02, 2017 8:24 AM  

More and more, these idiot SJWs dig their own graves.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 02, 2017 8:26 AM  

In what way is he "far-right"?

Not favoring homosexual marriage makes him far-right. That's all it takes. We know those who oppose it are far-right because the respectable right, conservatives like NRO, have become enlightened and favor it.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 02, 2017 8:29 AM  

UC Berkeley officials said the protest was infiltrated by vandals.

As long as universities give rioters cover like this, they should be pounded in any way possible. Ideally, barricade the rioters in with the academics and see who gets eaten. But going after their funding would be good too.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 02, 2017 8:34 AM  

John Wright wrote:In what way is he "far-right"?

He's attacking our enemies himself, and exposing their positions to our fire. Who cares whether he's one of us, as long as he keeps on this course? If he turns on us later, that will be the time to attack him.

Blogger Rob February 02, 2017 8:35 AM  

From the campus that brought you "The Free Speech Movement."

Anonymous BBGKB February 02, 2017 8:38 AM  

"gas lighting" liberal campuses or cities by concern trolling: "Hey, I don't know if it matters, but I just saw Milo Yiannopoulos get off a city bus headed somewhere

The African American community center.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt February 02, 2017 8:50 AM  

Perhaps Milo should try just broadcasting his address through loudspeakers set up all through Berkeley, like John Galt. The "vandals" might succeed in burning down entire buildings in their efforts to make the sound of his voice stop. The more money Berkeley has to spend on rebuilding and repairing itself, the less it has to spend on spreading the noxious fumes of leftism.

Anonymous acushla February 02, 2017 8:52 AM  

"but I just saw Milo Yiannopoulos get off a city bus headed somewhere"

His Milo-ness? On a freakin' BUS?!

Really, dahling. One would have to cook up some much better lies.

Blogger Ken Prescott February 02, 2017 9:04 AM  

Cadite eos.

Blogger Student in Blue February 02, 2017 9:05 AM  

@46. acushla

Clearly, you must've misread the sentence. Milo did not depart from a city bus, he "got off a city bus".

Blogger The Chortling February 02, 2017 9:05 AM  

"was infiltrated by vandals"

how about: Berkeley is filled with cultural Vandals.

Anonymous acushla February 02, 2017 9:13 AM  

@48: nicely executed, I dips me lid.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft February 02, 2017 9:13 AM  

@49. Chrotling, nah, Vnadals actually had a culture, and it was better than these degenerates.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 02, 2017 9:17 AM  

Drudge has a new link up about Trump cutting funds.

Of course I am "far right" and I think anyone setting up the new Progressive Caste System should be jailed then shanked by a low caste white.

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 9:17 AM  

What we need are a bunch of Milo impersonators. If we got 20 or 30 of them, we could completely paralyze the left.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 02, 2017 9:20 AM  

"Vandals?"

That's racist. Berkeley officials ought to know better.

Blogger Aeoli Pera February 02, 2017 9:22 AM  

That does it, I'm gonna eat Eduardo's brain as a matter of principle.

@48 Oh dear.

Anonymous Laz February 02, 2017 9:27 AM  

OT but related: Local news last night was talking about the new STEAM program. STEAM not STEM, the A stands for arts.

Blogger tublecane February 02, 2017 9:33 AM  

@42-You miss the point. Journalists are in the habit of attaching modifiers like "far" and "hard" to the word "right," for no reason other than to make everyone on the right appear more extreme than they are. (Because they think extremism as such is a bad thing.) Milo is outside the acceptable right, which is to say the right that rolls over and plays dead around predators. But he's not very far to the right, obviously, at least since the alt-right entered public consciousness. So calling him "far right" is a stretch.

Blogger Resident Moron™ February 02, 2017 9:35 AM  

ABC reporting that White House admits Trump told Mexico to control their population at the border or the US military would do it for them.

That is, of course what the Dept of DEFENSE is actually for; to defend the territorial integrity of the nation.

The MSM are going nuts, as if he'd shat in the Pope's punch bowl, because he's doing his actual Constitutional function as President.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 9:37 AM  

When dialectic fails we resort to rhetoric; when rhetoric fails the next step is violence. So now I'm wondering, what comes after violence? I confess that I embraced rhetoric because I was getting frustrated with the ineffectiveness of dialectic. Now I find I'm getting rather bored with the stupidity and dumbness of rhetoric. So I'm ready for whatever comes next. Bring it on.

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 9:39 AM  

> Local news last night was talking about the new STEAM program. STEAM not STEM, the A stands for arts.

Computer programming is an art. Knuth's seminal work in the field is even called "The Art of Computer Programming".

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 9:42 AM  

> So now I'm wondering, what comes after violence?

Violence is the final step. It merely escalates until one side or the other is vanquished.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 February 02, 2017 9:44 AM  

50 years of the disintegration of the nuclear family + 50 years of massive low IQ immigration = the mental degeneration of the Left.

In 1960's, the Left protested a seemingly endless war which cost the U.S. a fortune in blood and treasure and included conscription.

Today they protest and riot over the election of a peace loving and patriotic president, more careful immigration, and a harmless Englishman's challenging and entertaining presentation of leftwing madness.

Fortunately, patriotic America protested on November 8th to maximum effect.
The protests and riots of the Left are like a jilted lover spanking his monkey in public.

Sad!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 02, 2017 9:51 AM  

I prefer the mental violence of rhetoric, sure I love a well reasoned informative argument but in dealing with the Left I love the mental violence of rhetoric, but then again I am Wormwood.

James dear man if you ain't trolling you ain't trying so stop being a fucking fairy.

Blogger tublecane February 02, 2017 9:54 AM  

@57-Scratch that, they think extremism in our side is a bad thing, not extremism as such. They're also afraid of the extreme on their side, but not equally. Extremisms are not all created equal.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable February 02, 2017 9:59 AM  

He's attacking our enemies himself, and exposing their positions to our fire. Who cares whether he's one of us, as long as he keeps on this course? If he turns on us later, that will be the time to attack him.

I don't think John was attacking Milo. I think he was just pointing out that words have meanings and that the OppoMedia is lying AGAIN.

Blogger Maxwell Dorer February 02, 2017 10:08 AM  

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Blogger Maxwell Dorer February 02, 2017 10:10 AM  

Now that's fucking cancer. We all know the A really means Antifa

Anonymous fop February 02, 2017 10:11 AM  

"My fans start at 12, 13, 14 years old."

Please stop saying that.

Anonymous Bart Simpson February 02, 2017 10:16 AM  

In the Bay Area Twittersphere, the core left is very upset with the person who organized this - @occupytheport - whose symbol is seen next to each Fuck Trump graffiti. He's getting railed for playing into the event, knocking over the light tower which caught fire, and his defense is to double down.

The left is attacking the infiltrator @occupytheport, a known character in the East Bay activism community.

Blogger Student in Blue February 02, 2017 10:26 AM  

@62. StrongCoffee61
50 years of the disintegration of the nuclear family + 50 years of massive low IQ immigration = the mental degeneration of the Left.

The left's most ardent defenders are those stuck in their ivory towers, the midwits, not the low IQ cannon fodder. And their masters are the globalist elites who profit massively from exploiting low-cost labor, not the low-cost laborers themselves.

Anonymous BBGKB February 02, 2017 10:35 AM  

Local news last night was talking about the new STEAM program. STEAM not STEM, the A stands for arts.

I thought that thanks to affirmative action the highest science could be supported was steam power.

Anonymous Shrike February 02, 2017 10:38 AM  

My mother just mentioned this story to me. This is her 1st introduction to Milo. She's gonna love him. A funny British man who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 02, 2017 10:43 AM  

@Ghesthar
"It's funny how every time 'the left' holds a lovely peaceful protest those nasty old black bloc show up"

So they no longer call themselves antifags? It's a rebrand to "black bloc" now?

Anonymous Nathan February 02, 2017 10:46 AM  

@69

Good. Hope the hunt purges more of them.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 02, 2017 10:48 AM  

@Stilicho
V"four banks...vandalized" naturally'
Of course, the chance that those banks were Crooked Hillary donors is about 98%. But hey, you have to make sacrifices to maintain the narrative that these people are poor oppressed rebels, rather than plausibly-deniable agents of the deep state in its battle against a democratically-elected leader.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 10:53 AM  

Yeah, nothing comes after Violence except death or victory. I'm calling it the Dialectic-Rhetoric-Violence-Death Trajectory.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 10:55 AM  

Also, just by coincidence I started reading "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky yesterday, and in the prologue he warns against mindless violence because it would certainly push people towards the right and away from Revolution.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 02, 2017 10:56 AM  

@Athor Pelnor
'Nor were they able to "restore it as a political and economic entity"'

Well, the Visigoths had a bit of a run in Spain with a reasonable facsimile of the Roman Empire in miniature, maintaining the forms of Roman culture and customs for the most part. That was a fairly small part of the Empire, though, and didn't really hold up to external threats very well.

Perhaps culture does not drop from the sky, after all, and a people is better served by a culture that arises organically within that group.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 10:58 AM  

I apologize for being a faggoty fairy. I often feel guilty that I haven't punched enough people in the face in my life when I had the chance.

Anonymous Bukulu February 02, 2017 11:00 AM  

James @ 60,

Your objection seems kind of spergy to me--Knuth meant "art" here in the same sense that engineering is an "art".

Anonymous Siobhan February 02, 2017 11:02 AM  

The black bloc predate antifa as a thing. They used to call themselves anarchists. They like to show up and smash things and set things on fire. Like local small independent businesses. Assholes.

Blogger Jose February 02, 2017 11:04 AM  

Riots in Berkeley? I hope Naan & Curry and Thai House are okay.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 02, 2017 11:04 AM  

@James
"just by coincidence I started reading "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky"

(((Alinsky's))) "Rules for Radicals" is actually an excellent tactical manual for this kind of action. There's no reason why those tactics can't be used against the Left, especially when they're in a position of cultural/ political hegemony. Just skip over the commie propaganda sh!t.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 02, 2017 11:05 AM  

@Bukulu
Pretty much.

Anonymous Laz February 02, 2017 11:13 AM  

"Computer programming is an art. Knuth's seminal work in the field is even called "The Art of Computer Programming"." Every picture was of pudgy Hispanic high school girls at private schools.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 11:14 AM  

"Just skip over the commie propaganda sh!t." Yup, you got that right. I had to power through a lot of thick 1960's bullshit about doing your own thing and dealing with squares, man. It's much worse than trying to read "The Prince" by Machiavelli, which was also much different that I expected it to be. I'm not half way through Rules yet, but, I don't think Alinsky would be terribly surprised to find that now that the Left is The Establishment that the right is reading his book and learning his tactics. I think ol' Alinsky would understand in spite of his commie self that immoral authority and power are the problem and not technical issues like left and right.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 02, 2017 11:22 AM  

Awesome, so typical of the leftist violence and Milo gets the media attention at Foxnews with Tucker - I LOVE IT!

I ADORE MILO!

The colleges are a scam and the NEA/MSMMedia is a horrid violent joke!

Great work Tucker, Milo, our men are doing GREAT!!

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr February 02, 2017 11:34 AM  

@71 BBGKB:

Nope. Steam power requires a knowledge of thermodynamics. Which is well beyond the comprehension of the Left. We're talking serious Engineering skills here.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 February 02, 2017 11:37 AM  

There were over 100 signatures from UC Berkeley professors on a petition to ban Milo from speaking.

There were this many from the following fields,

Accounting. 0
Economics. 0
Finance. 0
Chemistry. 0
Physics. 0
Computer Science. 0
Engineering. 0
Medicine. 0

There a few from mathematics professors that were the cream on a big pile of academic rubbish.

Academia is just another liberal institution whose politics conform to an increasingly lowbrow base.





Blogger J Van Stry February 02, 2017 12:01 PM  

If the police won't maintain law and order and stop these criminals, then the citizens have both the right and the obligation to do it themselves.

Blogger Geir Balderson February 02, 2017 12:09 PM  

Berkeley riots are a given! And, these rioters have no shame! Don't ever let them talk about Free Speech ever again!

Mario Salvio would turn over in his grave if he knew. Well, but with a leftist roll!

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 12:10 PM  

> Your objection seems kind of spergy to me--Knuth meant "art" here in the same sense that engineering is an "art".

Of course he did, since engineering is an also an art. Exactly what point of that definition are you having problems with?

If you would argue that's not their intent, you're undoubtedly correct, but the fact that leftists misuse words isn't news to anyone. If you would argue that engineering and computer science are qualitatively different from the other arts, I'll simply have to disagree.

Blogger praetorian February 02, 2017 12:27 PM  

how about: Berkeley is filled with cultural Vandals.

I think we need to use what's already embedded in our culture: commies.

America kills commies. Punch a commie for America. This machine kills commies. Etc.

Commie is short, rhymes with nazi so it easy to flip around and we have a lot of Cold war propoganda and feels to fall back on with the term.

Commies.

Blogger chris February 02, 2017 12:40 PM  

@ 93

A good re-frame:

An alt righter calls an antifa a commie. An antifa calls an alt-righter a nazi.

Which characterization is to be regarded as accurate?

The alt-righter's opinions could easily have come out of the mouths of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln. Foundational figures to America. Yet they are to be regarded as Nazi? The antifa's opinions could easily have come out of the mouths of Stalin, Lenin or Trotsky. Especially Trotsky. Yet the antifa's opinion is not to be considered Commie?

The antifa is the Commie. The alt-righter is not the Nazi.

The reframe also works when trying to determine which opinions, alt-right or leftist are to be regarded as American. Good for outgrouping leftists.

Anonymous Tipsy February 02, 2017 1:01 PM  

Unconfirmed, but heard on local talk radio that the Berkeley police were told to stand down during the rioting.

Blogger James February 02, 2017 1:08 PM  

The police here in the San Fran Psycho Bayarrhea Gruberfornia are always ordered to stand down during riots, IF the rioters are left wingers working for the Demonic Rat party and in furtherance of its agenda. If it had been a Tea Party riot, (ha, Tea Party riot, what an oxymoron) then the thing would have been shut down with water cannons and tanks and machine guns, whatever it took, and there would have been thousands of arrests. Hey, just like you'd expect in a one party banana republic.

Blogger BigFire February 02, 2017 1:17 PM  

Foxnews comes out with a more complete version of Tucker Carlson's interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um2oyy3aeY4

Blogger tublecane February 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

@60-Irrelevant. You, I, and everyone else knows that adulterating STEM with A heralds an attempt to lend the humanities, the "studies," and all manner of make-work in the professorial industry the legitimacy of hard science. I even saw one article that added an R for "reading" to make STREAM. Which is just the old, failed educational program under a new label.

Anonymous Bobby Farr February 02, 2017 2:26 PM  

So Milo should just announce he will visit the most left wing universities. He will instantly draw hordes of fringe leftists to burn these universities and the surrounding globalist banks and Starbucks.

Blogger Barbarian Odoacer February 02, 2017 2:32 PM  

Paraphrasing General Sherman in the first Civil War, If they want to burn Berkeley to the ground, I'll send them matches and gasoline.

Anonymous Darth_Toolpodicus February 02, 2017 3:00 PM  

"You, I, and everyone else knows that adulterating STEM with A heralds an attempt to lend the humanities, the "studies," and all manner of make-work in the professorial industry the legitimacy of hard science. "

Amen. Three times over.

Anonymous Siobhan February 02, 2017 3:14 PM  

Spotted on a car in my (predominantly white, fairly affluent) San Francisco neighborhood:

http://imgur.com/WbRj697

Anonymous Bukulu February 02, 2017 3:33 PM  

James @ 92,

Yes, I'll argue to my dying breath that engineering "arts" -- even including software -- are qualitatively different from Fine Arts. Nobody dies if your art installation is a Piece of Shit.

But I'll definitely grant you that I may not have understood you, and that we might well be talking past each other rather than substantively disagreeing.

Blogger The Aardvark February 02, 2017 3:41 PM  

Again, the Muslim Brotherhood tactics from the "Arab Spring".

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 3:47 PM  

> Yes, I'll argue to my dying breath that engineering "arts" -- even including software -- are qualitatively different from Fine Arts. Nobody dies if your art installation is a Piece of Shit.

In general, nobody does if your Excel spreadsheet isn't calculated correctly either. Or if your refrigerator breaks before it should. There are software and engineering applications where safety is critical, but most of them aren't.

From the other side, if Mt. Rushmore were carved in such a way that one of the heads fell off and landed on spectators below, what then? Or would you argue that Mt. Rushmore is engineering rather than sculpture?

But yes, we're somewhat talking past each other. I'm not arguing that aesthetics or creativity are the only aspects of computer science or engineering, but rather that they are inseparable aspects of it.

Anonymous Laz February 02, 2017 3:59 PM  

Mt Rushmore is art, but it required engineering to accomplish. No engineering= no Rushmore

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 5:17 PM  

> Mt Rushmore is art, but it required engineering to accomplish. No engineering= no Rushmore

Which merely emphasizes the shared nature between the two.

Painting involves knowing and mixing paints and how they apply to various surfaces. Music involves knowing the musical scales, what notes mix together to make pleasant sounds, and what instruments make them. Sculpture requires an understanding of the materials involved and how best to manipulate them, etc. You can be successful in an artistic field without knowing these things, but you'll never master it.

Engineering and computer science are sort of the inverse, in that the scientific principles form the core, but proper designs and programing are creative endeavors and tend to be beautiful in their own way. Just to give an example, anyone who can look at an SR-71 and not see the beauty of it is arguably blind to beauty.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 02, 2017 5:31 PM  

I like Paul Graham's term for programming: a craft. It's not just the hard logic of making the code work; without some artistic sense you get ugly interfaces that are hard to use. But it's not just art; you need solid logic or things work badly and break. We're craftsmen.

Anonymous patrick kelly February 02, 2017 5:34 PM  

"Music involves knowing the musical scales, what notes mix together to make pleasant sounds,.."

If you can add and subtract, count to 13, and understand advanced concepts like every other, or every 3rd etc. you can do all the math required in music theory. Making it sound good is a whole nother' thang.

You don't want software, bridges or buildings designed and built with only my musician math, trust me.

Blogger S. Misanthrope February 02, 2017 6:48 PM  

We were there and hope to get some reports out about it soon. Right now we are still in the hospital (we are fine, it just takes time to get processed).

Blogger James Dixon February 02, 2017 7:40 PM  

> I like Paul Graham's term for programming: a craft.

A fair description yes. But I've heard profession musicians refer to their work as a craft too. So, again...

> You don't want software,

Most software development doesn't deal with much math either.

But I think I've derailed the conversation more than enough, and largely made my point, which is that there is an artistic aspect to the engineering disciplines. Yeah, that's undoubtedly not what the STREAM folks are advocating; but then as I said, what's new about the left misusing words?

Blogger Jose February 02, 2017 7:43 PM  

[Professor Farnsworth voice] Good news, everyone! [/voice]

I've heard from scouts in the U.C. Berkeley campus area and they've confirmed that both Naan 'n Curry and Thai House are unharmed by the riots. All is well, thus.

That is all.

Blogger Lazarus February 02, 2017 8:00 PM  

Bobby Farr wrote:So Milo should just announce he will visit the most left wing universities. He will instantly draw hordes of fringe leftists to burn these universities and the surrounding globalist banks and Starbucks.

And sell moar bookz!

Berkeley Blowback: Milo Book Sales Soar 12,740% Overnight

Anonymous Saracen III February 02, 2017 9:01 PM  

UC Berkely Police website boasts of Dignitary Protection, Negotiation and Entry, Bomb Disposal, Canine and Investigation teams.

Chief Margo Bennett.

http://ucpd.berkeley.edu/

Anonymous Laz February 02, 2017 9:39 PM  

"... there is an artistic aspect to the engineering disciplines..."

SOME aspect, I'll give you that.

"You don't want software, bridges or buildings designed and built with only my musician math, trust me."

LOL! Even Guitar Hero/Rockband is beyond me.

Anonymous Muskaos February 02, 2017 11:54 PM  

@113

I just looked, he is up 50,500% now, currently at #1 in sales rank.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/books

Anonymous Tipsy February 03, 2017 12:58 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:I like Paul Graham's term for programming: a craft. It's not just the hard logic of making the code work; without some artistic sense you get ugly interfaces that are hard to use. But it's not just art; you need solid logic or things work badly and break. We're craftsmen.

Here's the other thing: Code cannot just perform a function: it must also be pedagogical, teaching (or reminding) the reader how the function is carried out. I can't tell you how much incomprehensible ugly code I've had to debug by those who do not care a whit about the craft of programming. Or, by people who cannot describe what they're trying to do in words but by some other mysterious process manage to get something to work out of code salad they spew out. Or by people who don't understand the math deeply enough to express it in an aesthetic, streamlined way.

You're right: it's an art and a science. Essentially, that's a craft.

Blogger sysadmn February 03, 2017 10:51 AM  

Freddy de Boer, on the Left, gets it: You know what they’re saying about the right, after throwing a couple punches? “They’re afraid to come into the streets!” They’re afraid to come into the streets? They own those streets. They have the White House. They have the surveillance state. They have the military. They have the nuclear codes. They have the Congress and the states and the school boards. They have built an efficient and remorseless machine for taking power. And if Republicans get swept out of power tomorrow, the same old people will still own everything. That’s power. They make legislation. We make memes. They win elections. We go viral. We remix Richard Spencer getting punched; they start the process of finally killing off the labor movement altogether. And there’s a whole other layer to it, too: many of us don’t even know the difference. The right takes power and the left doesn’t even know what power is. I see so many people using the same tired tone of mocking superiority and I want to ask: what do you have to laugh about?

Anonymous Mr. Rational February 03, 2017 12:51 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:Steam power requires a knowledge of thermodynamics.
Only after a point.  Atmospheric engines work quite well based on rules of thumb.  You can (inefficiently) do things like keeping mines dry; it's just that you're not going to power a modern technological society with them.

Anonymous S. Misanthrope February 04, 2017 1:26 AM  

Here's what I saw happen: https://youtu.be/CIFYTYNl7ng

Blogger Carl Burgeson February 04, 2017 2:30 AM  

Napolwan figured out that a taste of the grape was a powerful tool for dispersing rioting monkeys.

Blogger Carl Burgeson February 04, 2017 2:30 AM  

Napolean. Had a typo.

Blogger Carl Burgeson February 04, 2017 2:41 AM  

Napolean. Had a typo.

Blogger Carl Burgeson February 04, 2017 2:41 AM  

Napolwan figured out that a taste of the grape was a powerful tool for dispersing rioting monkeys.

Anonymous Discard February 04, 2017 4:12 AM  

122. & 123. Carl Burgeon: It's "Napoleon".

Blogger James February 04, 2017 11:03 AM  

"Napolwan figured out that a taste of the grape was a powerful tool for dispersing rioting monkeys. "

A whiff of grape shot was all it took to make Napolwan Emperor of France.

Anonymous jdgalt February 04, 2017 4:11 PM  

Milo does not bring chaos. SJW thugs bring chaos.

But I don't see why Milo bothers to travel to these things, if he's not going to bring a platoon of goons to throw the thugs out of the venue so that we can actually hear him speak.

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