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Tuesday, February 14, 2017

Overvaccination and brain inflammation

It appears that researchers may be zooming in on the nexus that connects vaccines and vaccine-related developmental issues:
Analyzing five years' worth of private health insurance data on children ages 6-15, these scientists found that young people vaccinated in the previous three to 12 months were significantly more likely to be diagnosed with certain neuropsychiatric disorders than their non-vaccinated counterparts.

This new study, which raises important questions about whether over-vaccination may be triggering immune and neurological damage in a subset of vulnerable children (something parents of children with autism have been saying for years), was published in the peer-reviewed journal Frontiers in Psychiatry, Jan. 19.

More than 95,000 children in the database that were analyzed had one of seven neuropsychiatric disorders: anorexia nervosa, anxiety disorder, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), bipolar disorder, major depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and tic disorder.

Children with these disorders were compared to children without neuropsychiatric disorders, as well as to children with two other conditions that could not possibly be related to vaccination: open wounds and broken bones.

This was a well-designed, tightly controlled study. Control subjects without brain disorders were matched with the subjects by age, geographic location and gender.

As expected, broken bones and open wounds showed no significant association with vaccinations.

New cases of major depression, bipolar disorder or ADHD also showed no significant association with vaccinations.

However, children who had been vaccinated were 80 percent more likely to be diagnosed with anorexia and 25 percent more likely to be diagnosed with OCD than their non-vaccinated counterparts. Vaccinated children were also more likely to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and with tics compared to the controls.
Now, I'm as dubious as anyone about the legitimacy of psychiatric disorders, so I wouldn't put too much stock in the main thrust of the story. But here is the potentially more significant issue that is not readily apparent. The tests which revealed the brain inflammation by which the psychiatric disorders are believed to have been caused occurred in children who were receiving shots as young as five. This raises the obvious question: what is happening to the brains of smaller, younger children who are receiving even more shots than their older counterparts?

Before the usual suspects on both sides of the vaccine debate react instinctively, keep in mind that this isn't a question of the known benefits of vaccines or the known risks. This is a matter of balancing the known knowns against the known unknowns, which, by definition, cannot possibly be done until more can be learned about the unknowns. And even if any one vaccine, or series of vaccines, are beneficial, that does not mean that overvaccination is impossible, particularly if each shot causes a small amount of brain inflammation.

One shot of tequila won't hurt you either. That doesn't mean 25 in quick succession are harmless.

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Anonymous Nick February 14, 2017 8:12 AM  

Trump has tweeted about the possible connection between vaccines and autism. It sounds like an issue that hits close to home for him. It's not exactly of immediate importance like immigration and terrorism are, but hopefully he takes some action on it during his presidency.

Blogger J A Baker February 14, 2017 8:28 AM  

Some people are doing a delayed schedule with their children, spreading the shots out over longer periods of time; a child shouldn't have more than one vaccine per month, the more you spread it out is probably better, but these days they are pushing a lot of vaccines that are not nessacary, so if you do choose to vaccinate, I suggest going by to the list that was recommended in the seventies early eighties, also from what I've read, giving a child the MMR befor the age of three increases the risk of vaccine injury.

Anonymous Rocklea February 14, 2017 8:29 AM  

I have a family member with aspergers. This really does need more attention and I am so fucking sick of doctors and media constantly pushing 'safe and effective. Dr Russel Blaylock, retired neurosurgeon has detailed much of this, and talks about the cytokine storm that vaccines cause in infant's brains. It can basically be worse than getting the virus itself as instead of being contracted orally or through the mucus membranes, an injection bypasses the natural immune training defenses and goes straight into the blood stream and through the blood brain barrier and into the brain. Macabre.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 8:42 AM  

This basically explains everything. I've previously speculated that the link between Asperger's and autism is that people with Asperger's are at much greater risk of developing autism than the average person. If the brain damage is caused by an immune response, this can be explained by neanderthal genetics, because most of the extant genome is related to the immune system.

Blogger Tom February 14, 2017 8:43 AM  

I'm dubious. Having some close association to this issue (the ex has a host of issues including OCD), I've always felt it was more likely that the predisposition to OCD had a genetic component. The early vaccination could then be explained as a symptom of the active OCD in the mother, rather than a contributing factor in the child.

I don't see it as settled by any means. All I'm saying is that correlation is by definition more likely than causation. And the field of psychology is a largely bunch of quacks who can't tell the difference between open and advocacy research.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 8:44 AM  

My unstated presumption is that Asperger's is a recessive phenotype within the white and Asian subspecies, so that most autists would have grown up to show normal adult behavior for this Asperger's race if not for the brain damage.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 8:49 AM  

To be even more clear, I believe that the well-known ADHD-OCD-Tourette's-Introversion tetrad is a separate racial mode of behavior (except for Tourette's, which is probably just brain damage), with some overlap into the general white and Asian populations due to interbreeding. This is analogous to the dark tetrad of psychopathy, machiavellianism, narcissism, and sadism.

Anonymous Rocklea February 14, 2017 8:49 AM  

Blaylock also predicted that the removal of mercury from childhood vaccines would have no effect, as the adjuvants and the attenuated or dead or live viruses would still have the same immune response.

Blogger J A Baker February 14, 2017 8:51 AM  

I think yes, that autism and as per gets as well as other disorders may and probably do have a genetic component, but my take on the issue, is that some of these vaccines may be causing brain injuries, and those injuries have similar symptoms to autism and aspergers.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 8:58 AM  

Since I'm already talking crazy, I might as well say that I think this is an unconscious attempt to genocide nerds on the grounds that most people consider us gross.

Blogger wreckage February 14, 2017 9:01 AM  

The Australian schedule is 8 vaccines early, with MMR added at 12 months. AFAIK only 2 of those are new (HepB and Hib).

I keep hearing 15+ in the US schedule?

Blogger pyrrhus February 14, 2017 9:10 AM  

Vaccines aren't harmless, period. You are injecting foreign substances into your bloodstream. I got an anti-malaria vaccine, which they didn't tell me was experimental, and it made me sick for months. The vaccine was withdrawn. The HPV vaccine has killed or paralyzed more than 100 young women, but its effectiveness has not been demonstrated. Vaccines are strictly risk/reward, and definitely should be spaced out.....

Anonymous Bowman February 14, 2017 9:10 AM  

Meanwhile leftists want mandatory vaccination & speak against "anti-vaxxers" as if they were evil incarnate.
Those people can't be reasoned with.

Blogger wreckage February 14, 2017 9:16 AM  

This study specifically DIDN'T find a link with autism. Now, my understanding is that if vaccines cause generalized brain damage, they shouldn't cause autism-spectrum, which is more complex and can result in increased neural connectivity, depending on which set of physical-neural oddities you get.

My bet is that in an increasingly technical and impersonal society, autism (from sub-diagnosable on through to high functioning autistic) is much, much less stringently selected against and mild cases selected for.

In short, where interaction with complex systems is non-optional and generates wealth, but interaction with people can be minimized, and wealth generates mating opportunities, autistic dudes are getting laid a lot more.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 14, 2017 9:27 AM  

On the assumption this posts properly for once...

Biggest problem with this discussion starts from an assumption everyone makes but no one thinks about: Vaccines + early health means children that would have died lived. But why was there a collection of children that were always likely to die before age 5?

What we consider modern Autism Spectrum are, mostly, children that would have died from communicable diseases in the West, pre-1950. "Weak Constitution" was the phrase and you never hear it anymore. Autism Spectrum is actually a congential neuro-inflammation disorder. Highly variant with certain stress makers in the mother (which rise, naturally, with age; thus the Age-related aspect).

What happens when anyone gets a Vaccine is the Immune & Stress Response systems are taxed, and quite heavily. (1-carbon metabolism and the Homocyestine axis is the easiest to track/test for.) For the Spectrum child, they don't recover because the vaccine hit them right where they are weakest. So it ends up being a trade off of living or showing the symptoms earlier than they would have otherwise.

This is why vaccines would help bring out other nervous system dysfunctions. The body isn't in good shape in those conditions, so the vaccine simply highlights it. Serious psychosis actually causes Metabolic Syndrome (type 2 diabetes) if left to run wild for a while. "Mental disorders" cannot be separated from massive full body dysfunction, but that's an even deeper topic.

Anonymous Anonymous February 14, 2017 9:55 AM  

Most people believe autism is generally genetic. But who knows, there could be all kinds of ways to scramble brains up.

Anonymous BBGKB February 14, 2017 9:57 AM  

We should seal the border so vaccines are not needed as much, especially since 3rd world measles has managed to evolve to the point vaccinated kids can still get it. I usually rant on vaccine threads but not today.

But why was there a collection of children that were always likely to die before age 5?

We have made huge advances in how early a premi baby can survive but almost none in surviving without significant health problems.

Blogger Silly But True February 14, 2017 10:00 AM  

Triggering a vaccine side effect - of which are numerous - in an infant/toddler is a game of Russian roulette best left only to the parents.

The CDC does a good job of laying out the risks. The State's only interest exists in protecting groups of children which includes universe of vulnerable children from parental decisions contra public policy. I'm good with allowing parents to not vaccinate; I'm also good with public schools having vaccine requirements. That's about the best the balance to strike.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 14, 2017 10:04 AM  

I am on the fence about vaccines. The thing that makes me suspicious is how enthusiastically they are made mandatory by schools/politicians. Especially in instances like the HPV vaccine which vaccinates against a disease that can be avoided through not engaging in certain behaviors. I am more sympathetic to vaccinations against diseases that are highly life threatening and spread like wild fire.

Blogger Jon Syfer February 14, 2017 10:21 AM  

basementhomebrewer:

It's good that you're on the fence. It shows that you have an open mind. Ask yourself a few questions:

1. Why does the mainstream media ignore the fact that vaccines can and do cause harm?
2. Why are vaccines & the manufacturers the only medical sector protected from lawsuits?
3. Why can there be no open debate on the subject?

I think you should start by reading some of the vaccine inserts that show the possible side effects. I would start with the MMR and DTAP.

Anonymous Cassie February 14, 2017 10:22 AM  

I find the vaccine issue very frustrating, because it seems to me that the data/studies are simply not trustworthy. The whole issue is treated like religious dogma by many, and the way vaccines are grouped, how can anyone really say whether one vaccine has a problem but not another if they're all being given at the same time?

Living in a "globalized" area where people often travel internationally and there are plenty of illegal as well as legal immigrants, I'm glad that vaccines are available, but I wish I had better information to use when deciding what to do about the schedule.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 10:26 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:On the assumption this posts properly for once...

Biggest problem with this discussion starts from an assumption everyone makes but no one thinks about: Vaccines + early health means children that would have died lived. But why was there a collection of children that were always likely to die before age 5?

What we consider modern Autism Spectrum are, mostly, children that would have died from communicable diseases in the West, pre-1950. "Weak Constitution" was the phrase and you never hear it anymore. Autism Spectrum is actually a congential neuro-inflammation disorder. Highly variant with certain stress makers in the mother (which rise, naturally, with age; thus the Age-related aspect).

What happens when anyone gets a Vaccine is the Immune & Stress Response systems are taxed, and quite heavily. (1-carbon metabolism and the Homocyestine axis is the easiest to track/test for.) For the Spectrum child, they don't recover because the vaccine hit them right where they are weakest. So it ends up being a trade off of living or showing the symptoms earlier than they would have otherwise.

This is why vaccines would help bring out other nervous system dysfunctions. The body isn't in good shape in those conditions, so the vaccine simply highlights it. Serious psychosis actually causes Metabolic Syndrome (type 2 diabetes) if left to run wild for a while. "Mental disorders" cannot be separated from massive full body dysfunction, but that's an even deeper topic.


I mostly agree with the details, but the narrative you're putting out here is not correct. What you refer to as a "weak constitution" is just allergies, which is a pathologically overactive immune system. This can be triggered by vaccines but there are some tales of aspies who had allergies anyway. On the whole, however, Hans Asperger found that his subjects were healthier than average.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 10:32 AM  

wreckage wrote:This study specifically DIDN'T find a link with autism. Now, my understanding is that if vaccines cause generalized brain damage, they shouldn't cause autism-spectrum, which is more complex and can result in increased neural connectivity, depending on which set of physical-neural oddities you get.

Increased connectivity is a normal trait of Asperger's (and incidentally this is probably why we have increased associative horizon, re: Cooijmans). It would appear that autism is just generalized brain damage caused by inflammation during developmental periods where neurogenesis is acting at a high rate, and producing neurons that were necessary for low-level operations like processing sensory nerve impulses.

My bet is that in an increasingly technical and impersonal society, autism (from sub-diagnosable on through to high functioning autistic) is much, much less stringently selected against and mild cases selected for.

In short, where interaction with complex systems is non-optional and generates wealth, but interaction with people can be minimized, and wealth generates mating opportunities, autistic dudes are getting laid a lot more.


And since you're obviously wrong about that, you might reconsider how you got there.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 14, 2017 10:45 AM  

Over at Unz.com there's an interesting discussion about IQ regarding the Flynn Effect and something I'd not seen before, The Woodley Effect (decreasing IQ's across the board.)

There are certainly many possible causes for declining population mean IQ's during the last 100 years: dygenic breeding, pervasive chemical contamination, dietary changes, etc., but at least in the USA, over-vaccination might be added to that list.

Again, it's not what we DON'T know that's the problem, it's what we think we know that just ain't so. Despite unprecedented resources directed at scientific inquiry, fad and fashion still dominates every human endeavor and widespread decisions about diet, foodstuffs, medical decisions and public policies affecting our environment are all but certainly based on errors and outright falsehoods.

Our devotion to "!Science!" actually makes us (as a collective) even more likely to commit grave and pervasive errors.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 14, 2017 10:45 AM  

Self-selection criteria. Or "lived through age 5" criteria. That's the assumption everyone makes, which mucks up all discussion of the topic.

In the case of Asperger's and classical Autism, they're recessive genetic expressions or outright defects. However, they seem to be much more structural issues that don't effect the immune system. But the large mass of those currently diagnosed with Autism simply wouldn't have survived in the old days. That's why they were never studied. They just ended up dead. Now we're to the point where they removed Asperger's from the diagnostic chart because they can't separate it from other aspects of the Spectrum. (Or Doctors are just terrible. It's both.)

Blogger herfsi February 14, 2017 10:50 AM  

if brain inflammation can be proven - that's big. if not - then it's just obsessed anal retentive parents who rigidly get every shot on time or early who also quickly drag their precious children into the witch doctor (psychologist/psychiatrist of which i am one:) due to the helicopter parent's anxiety over everything - & in that system the kid'll get a diagnosis just for being there.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 14, 2017 10:51 AM  

@13 I'm sure this is redundant, but it is now obvious to me that Leftists are all stuck in the early 1940's.

The Theocracy ruling Western nations obviously has its sacraments (Blank Slate, Magic Dirt, Holy Diversity, etc.) and its saints (Lincoln, MLK, and soon-to-be Obama) and its catechisms, but I think the easiest way to recognize a zealot is when they invoke this Theocracy's personification of evil.

To the Christian, the personification of evil is Satan, but to this Theocratic cult, it's obviously Hitler.

Every time we see any reference to denialists (as in Holocaust Denial), it's obviously a reference to Hitler (Satan) and Nazis (Satan's demons.)

These people really are cultists. Raving, frothing-at-the-mouth loons.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 14, 2017 10:58 AM  

@24 I'm convinced the Fad-of-the-Decade is getting your kid a "diagnosis" so no one (including school employees) can discipline them for any mal-behavior.

True story: Kid has bad eyes so his 504 plan requires he sit in the front row. Kid loves to make loud noises and when asked by the teacher (or nearby student) to stop, he doubles down and gets even louder...but his "diagnosis" says this is a medical problem so he can't be punished. Kid has proven that he can control it any time he wants.

Didn't I see a study showing a clear correlation between women with diagnosed BPD and kids who also had numerous diagnoses and were drugged to the gills?

Dysgenic trends are not remotely limited to declining intelligence. Actually, it is dysfunctional behaviors that are skyrocketing and metastasizing aggressively through grade schools.

Anonymous Sonya February 14, 2017 11:11 AM  

My children have at times developed fevers after doctor's appointments, even when they didn't receive any shots. The clinic is a great place to pick up nasty germs. Not that I think injecting babies with loads of vaccines is a good idea.

Anonymous Athor Pel February 14, 2017 11:14 AM  

I read an interesting article not too long ago. It's about a case that's been winding it's way through the German court system for a few years now. The German federal supreme court found no proof for the existence of a measles virus.

raw link:
http://anonhq.com/anti-vaxxer-biologist-stefan-lanka-bets-100k-measles-isnt-virus-wins-german-federal-supreme-court/

As the URL says, Mr. Lanka bet €100,000 no one could produce conclusive evidence for the existence of the measle virus. Someone presented 6 papers from virology journals as proof and claimed the €100,000. Lanka said the procedures used in the studies described by the papers was faulty and off to court they went.

Read the whole thing. There are a lot of details to examine. It looks like the genetics labs have been indentifying human cell parts for measle virus parts.

I find the whole thing funny. Not only are cytokine storms being induced in infants but it's being done by something that isn't even a vaccine. And the vaccine companies have made billions off it.

Anonymous EH February 14, 2017 11:21 AM  

I came across this a couple of days ago: “New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Micro-and Nanocontamination” published in Volume 4, Issue 1 – 2017 issue of the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination by Antoinetta M Gatti and Stefano Montanari.

[Quote from More Scientific Proof To Refuse Vaccines:]
Forty-four vaccines from 2 countries (France and Italy) were analyzed. ....
Thirteen of the 44 vaccines tested contained Aluminum and “organic-inorganic composites” as listed in Table 2 of their report. In some vaccines they found: Lead (Pb) Cervarix (sample 17), the HPV vaccine; Agrippal S1 (sample 22); Meningitec (samples 31 & 33); and Gardasil (sample 37), the HPV vaccine.

“Some metallic particles made of Tungsten [atomic number w74] or stainless steel were also identified.” ... Ironically, the only veterinary vaccine tested, Feligen, proved free of inorganic contaminants!

Regarding the extremely small sizes of the contaminants, the study authors say,"As happens with all foreign bodies, particularly that small, they induce an inflammatory reaction that is chronic because most of those particles cannot be degraded."

The above findings are of particular interest since the inflammatory process is involved in all brain encephalopathies and all stages of chronic disease formation. Since those particles cannot be degraded, every vaccine a child receives just ads to the toxic body burden building up over the course of all the vaccines a child is given from day one of life until he/she meets the required mandatory CDC/FDA schedule. ...

In Figure 7 red blood cells appear, but can’t be identified as human or animal!
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Anonymous Bowman February 14, 2017 12:08 PM  

Leftist philosophy in 3 steps :

1/ Scary thing !!!
2/ Oversimplified and/or corrupt solution,
3/ Dissident voices must be silenced so I can live in the delusion the scary thing doesn't exist.

Rinse and repeat until your civilization is no more.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 12:08 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Self-selection criteria. Or "lived through age 5" criteria. That's the assumption everyone makes, which mucks up all discussion of the topic.

In the case of Asperger's and classical Autism, they're recessive genetic expressions or outright defects. However, they seem to be much more structural issues that don't effect the immune system. But the large mass of those currently diagnosed with Autism simply wouldn't have survived in the old days. That's why they were never studied. They just ended up dead. Now we're to the point where they removed Asperger's from the diagnostic chart because they can't separate it from other aspects of the Spectrum. (Or Doctors are just terrible. It's both.)


That's because they're retarded ideologues. The difference is delayed language development, or not. That's fucking huge.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 12:13 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:@24 I'm convinced the Fad-of-the-Decade is getting your kid a "diagnosis" so no one (including school employees) can discipline them for any mal-behavior.

This is analogous to seeking tax loopholes in order to survive an oppressive tax regime.

Your previous comment about Hitler was also excellent.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 12:22 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Dysgenic trends are not remotely limited to declining intelligence. Actually, it is dysfunctional behaviors that are skyrocketing and metastasizing aggressively through grade schools.

Bruce Charlton points at dysfunctional sexual behavior and the relative inability of moderns to even reproduce.

Anonymous Bowman February 14, 2017 12:25 PM  

@dc.sunsets The Resident Evil games make a pretty good depiction of them.
That makes me think, there is a fortune to be made in a game à-la-Doom where you would exterminate anti-fas.

Blogger Tino February 14, 2017 12:29 PM  

There's nothing genetic about autism. If you put an ultrasound probe on the brain, the frontal cortex is damaged and there is a scar tissue layer in the arachnoid, indicating meningitis and/or encephalitis at some developmental point. If it had happened in utero the scar tissue would not be there. So it is a post-natal insult. Mercury-cum-aluminum are implicated and there are whistleblowers, one of whom is suicidal for his role in this affair, and it will all come out and be accepted in time. We will see what RFK Jr manages with shaking the trees and looking under the rocks...

Anonymous BBKGB February 14, 2017 12:44 PM  

My children have at times developed fevers after doctor's appointments, even when they didn't receive any shots. The clinic is a great place

If you want your son to constantly hear the lamentations of women, tell him to go into Infection Control.

If you put an ultrasound probe on the brain, the frontal cortex is damaged and there is a scar tissue layer in the arachnoid

I know there was a Chinese study linking prenatal ultrasound to autism, since ultrasound only rolled out in certain areas for the commie elite but I have not seen anything to back it up. If you have seen since the Chinese study please link.

Blogger Duke Norfolk February 14, 2017 1:08 PM  

As others have said here, this issue is very frustrating to me. There's so much noise out there on this, and politics, that it's hard to know the truth even if you've got the ability to understand the science.

I do find much of the anti-vax argument to be very compelling, and God knows that much of 20th century science (and "science") is being overturned or at least shown to be lacking.

At a minimum I think that over-vaccination angle is quite likely to be a serious suspect. That parallels very much with vaccination in dogs/cats, where the vets sold out to pharma and jab the poor critters annually with no scientific basis to back that schedule.

Blogger S1AL February 14, 2017 1:24 PM  

Newest indication is that autism is linked to, and can be treated with, gut bacteria. Immune system triggers can have adverse effects on gut bacteria, so early childhood illness could very well be linked.

Blogger Balázs Varga February 14, 2017 2:07 PM  

Do not fall for the liberal lies about autism caused by gut parasites. That's just idiots burning their intestinal lining with bleach enemas and drinking turpentine. Do not believe new age fake science.

These are usually made in order to sell you some "bio" product made by overpaid hippies. Who are most likely leftists. Do not buy into any new age fad, it is all just pseudoscience for the stupid. Support your local white collar farmers instead of these "bio" hippies.

The science that was made prior to the west's mad rush towards the globalist left is solid and not influenced by politics.

To the rising autism charges, one can easily see that the doctors can now better diagnose retardation and thus find it out more often. A hundred years ago it would just have been 'That guy is wrong in the head' and at best an electroshock.

While properly done vaccination causes little harm and great gain, one must remember that vaccines come in different quality too. There are some cheaper diluted versions out there that have almost zero effect. These are mostly used by cheapskate vets, but people doctors can fall for this too.

I would not be surprised if Obamacare selected the cheapest options and went with them.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper February 14, 2017 2:47 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:What we consider modern Autism Spectrum are, mostly, children that would have died from communicable diseases in the West, pre-1950. "Weak Constitution" was the phrase and you never hear it anymore. Autism Spectrum is actually a congential neuro-inflammation disorder. Highly variant with certain stress makers in the mother (which rise, naturally, with age; thus the Age-related aspect).



I don't know. Asperger's wasn't discovered until 1981 and while similar things were noted at least as early as the 1960's (in Transactional Analysis as the Little Professor game) I doubt they were much concern since the behavior of Aspies was easily managed at that time and nothing in teh society kept them from being normal productive members except in extreme case till well into the 20th century

In previous societies through most of human history, people did not live overly complex lives , did not live among strangers and were not subject to constant stimulation.

High Functioning Autism , Asperger's wouldn't be a significant hindrance in those environments or likely even noticed much in say a rural farmstead somewhere.

Allergies were also much less common though as far as I know there is no evidence that I know of for for extra health issues for Asperger's even allergies

Only on the comparative chaos and constant stimulation of modern societies would high functioning autism be a hindrance and some of the concentration advantages , 4Chan's Weaponize'd Autism would be as useful for some tasks as they are now.



Blogger S1AL February 14, 2017 3:03 PM  

@Balazs Varga -

You clearly don't know the first thing about the issue, since the problem is a LACK of the proper (beneficial) gut bacteria. The solution doesn't involve drinking anything. You're a moron.

Anonymous rtp February 14, 2017 3:39 PM  

Rates of paralysis have increased since the polio vaccine.

Yes. Increased.

There are zero benefits to vaccines. All that has happened is that doctors have shifted the blame from one germ to another (no better example of that than with hepatitis which will eventually run through the alphabet).

Blogger Doug Cranmer February 14, 2017 3:45 PM  

Try having a rational discussion with a doctor over concerns about vaccines. You can't. They shut it down as settled science. Every time. It's like discussing climate change with a believer. It's not possible.

Blogger Redpill Angel February 14, 2017 5:21 PM  

10. Aeoli Pera February 14, 2017 8:58 AM
Since I'm already talking crazy, I might as well say that I think this is an unconscious attempt to genocide nerds on the grounds that most people consider us gross.


You might be on to something. My theory is that more white boys are needed in special ed class to even things out, if you know what I mean.

Blogger Buybuydandavis February 15, 2017 12:59 AM  

My pet annoyance in discussions of medical issues is the statement "there is no evidence that X causes Y" from people mistaking a failure to reject the null hypothesis with a demonstration that the null hypothesis is false.

Maybe they just lacked sample size or good data with the signal til now.

"Control subjects without brain disorders were matched with the subjects by age, geographic location and gender."

But I wouldn't trust test assumptions either. First thing that crossed my mind was that will all the antivaxxers, the more neurotic parents would be seeing disorders and taking their kids in for psychiatric testing, biasing the sample.

Hard to control for "wacky parents".

These studies will get much more productive when individual genomic data is generally available.

Blogger Samuel Nock February 15, 2017 3:19 AM  

A vaccination post with not even 50 comments?!

Blogger is shadow-banning VD.

Blogger wreckage February 15, 2017 3:25 AM  

"In previous societies through most of human history, people did not live overly complex lives , did not live among strangers and were not subject to constant stimulation."

Exactly, this is the first generation (or two) where a reluctance to meet and memorize 30-40 new people every week or two, or a preference for a settled life in one's own community and with one's own customs, is considered a "disability".

For the tests, obsessively cleanly parents breed sick children, whether immunized or not; they also increase rates of allergy.

Our modern approach is to sterilize and control everything, it's massively dysfunctional.

Blogger Gospace February 15, 2017 4:13 AM  

Anti-vaxxers get under my skin. I've done a considerable deal of family history research. Prior to 1950 I can document at least one childhood death prior to age 5 in every single one of my ancestral families. One of my g-grandmothers lost 3 that I know of. And in the vast majority of those families, at least one death between 5 and 18. The majority of deaths were from vaccine preventable viruses. Some from lack of antibiotics. Reality check for vaccines- who do you know who has had smallpox? One of those things I actually worry about is that somewhere someone is going to decide to unleash smallpox from a hidden laboratory stash. Post 1950 I know of only one infant death in the family. In 1953. Only found it a year ago; my cousins weren't aware the firstborn in their family existed. I suspect polio. Why? When the first mass inoculation came to our town, my family was first in line at the table to receive our sugar cubes. Not one of the first, the first. That's one of my very clear childhood memories.

I live in an area with a lot of Amish. They don't vaccinate. Public health nurses in the area are extremely frustrated over the number of cases of deafness they have to deal with because someone got measles instead of the vaccine. I don't know the death rate from it, but measles kills at a higher rate than the supposed side effects of vaccination exist.

I know a few people my age who have lost children due to accidents. I know one couple dealing with a child with Type 1 diabetes. I don't know anyone who's lost a child due to a vaccine preventable childhood illness. My parents couldn't say the same, and my grandparents accepted the loss of siblings as something normal that happened to everyone.

Blogger Gospace February 15, 2017 4:27 AM  

Oh. On ADHD and overactive kids. As a Scout leader I've had to deal with a few kids on medication. Every one of those kids was fine and well behaved as long as their parents weren't anywhere near. One time, one teacher suggested one of my kids might be ADHD. And described the symptoms. My kid (all of my kids) was reading at several grade levels higher than the rest of the class. I pointed this out, told the teacher he was bored, behaving exactly as I did in school at that age, and the it was her job to deal with it, and that didn't mean medicating my kid. As a non-medical observation, both my wife and I have determined that most cases of overactive children should be more correctly diagnosed as underactive adults.

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Blogger wreckage February 15, 2017 5:28 AM  

There's a lot of weirdness about ADHD. I have the condition. The rule is this: if it isn't messing with your life, don't worry about it. I only found it troublesome as an adult; nothing prior to university presented much of a challenge.

Blogger Justin C February 15, 2017 12:43 PM  

For me, I get irritated when I meet people who question the use and, supposed, overuse of vaccines. I used to work as a paramedic and have taken children who've had Pertussis, Meningitis, Measles and Rotavirus. All completely preventable if their parents actually gave a damn and vaccinated their kids.

It isn't just an issue of closing the boarders, although one would have to be incredibly naive to think that their child would never contract a preventable virus with the entire third world crossing our borders. We'd need to have incredibly strict and limited travel to nearly every single country. Even homeschooling children wouldn't completely insulate them since many of the viruses we vaccinate against can be easily picked up. HBV can live on surfaces for 7 days. I just imagine my children on playground equipment, shopping carts, and anything else my kids could touch without being locked away in their house all day, every day.
I also think it's ridiculous that the targets liberals go after are the alt-right, homeschooling, religious, granola groups who they claim are the reasons why viruses like measles, mumps, Rotavirus and pertussis are making huge comebacks...when it's their precious immigrants who are bringing not just themselves, but every virus, parasite and infection with them as well.

Until that comes to an end, I'll be injecting my children with vaccines because I'd rather take the risk of Asperger's then watch my 18 month old cough herself to the point of asphyxiation, my 3 year old suffer dehydration due a week's worth of severe diarrhea, or my 5 year old suffer severe complications like pneumonia and deafness that are far more common then complications from the vaccine itself.

Anonymous WhiteBoner February 20, 2017 6:37 AM  

1. RE: The claim vaccine-free families "[don't] actually gave a damn" about their kids.

180-degree opposite of reality.  Vaccine free families are comprised of the most educated, conscientious families in the nation.  Sample headlines (from hyper-critical articles, usually by Jewish writers):

-'Rich, White and Refusing Vaccinations'
NYTimes
"The people most likely to refuse to have their children vaccinated tend to be white, well-educated and affluent"

-'O.C. vaccination divide crosses income, education lines'
Orange County Register

-'The Sickeningly Low Vaccination Rates at Silicon Valley Day Cares'
Wired Magazine (J Perlstein)

Dozens more articles available from all the usual suspects (Salon, Slate, Mother Jones) with the same theme: Screw healthy white families; send in the government, pronto.

Perhaps the MOST conscientious white families of all, homeschoolers, have, by all anecdotal accounts (the only ones available) and the wonderful Home School Legal Defense Association, probably the lowest vaccination rates in the West.  How are they faring?  Well, their kids are beating the shit out of your (usually non-existent) kids in every single standardized test, wrestling match, and science fare in the country.  (Without this subset of virile and dynamic white families, I honestly don't think whites would have a future in North America.)

2. The claim that childhood infections like chicken pox and measles - which human beings lived with through our entire existence - were the cause of high infant mortality?  This is proven false, and is a myth only promoted to the most gullible, by the most deceitful. 

Both infant mortality and infirm mortality (hospital deaths) plummeted due to increased sanitation, food availability, and the discovery of vitamins in the early 20th century.

The 1977 Harvard paper, 'The Questionable Contribution of Medical Measures to the Decline of Mortality in the United States in the Twentieth Century' and 'Vaccines: Hygiene, Sanitation, Immunization, and Pestilential Diseases' detail this extensively and irrefutably.

3. Vaccine-free families are healthier than vaccinated.

These families almost always get chicken pox.  Almost always get whooping cough.  They occasionally even get measles, rubella, and mumps.  Their kids beat these simple infections in days, and have (effectively) lifelong immunity thereafter.  Although the government and media refuse to compare the health outcomes of the vaccine-free vs. the vaccinated (a simple yet costly epidemiological study requiring health records and a large sampling to conduct necessary controls), every small study, and every proxy study (ex. homeschoolers) shows dramatically superior health for the vaccine free.

'Studies Outside the U.S. Show Unvaccinated Children Healthier than Vaccinated Children' at HealthImpactNews for a listing of several proxy and European studies and surveys.

None of this even touches on their dubious efficacy (every "horrifying" outbreak of measles and mumps occurs among the vaccinated), the slimy pushers in the pharmaceutical industry, or the decidedly Jewish role in creating, selling, and marketing them (from Jonas Salk to the current CDC directors).

Nor does any of this touch on the bizarre no-skin-in-the-game role that childless white SWPLs have in being the useful idiots for the pharmaceutical industry in bullying families into vaccinating.  (Who better than a bloated, 40-year old, asexual neckbeard coming back from a 'Penn & Teller' lecture to boss healthy, white, Christian mothers on what to inject into their children's bloodstream?)

The bottom line is that the health of American children is a horror show, and the children spared from these poisons are much healthier than their vaccinated counterparts.

The YouTube channel 'VaxxedTV' is a excellent database of parents describing how vaccines maimed their children and also featuring interviews with wonderfully robust vaccine-free families.

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