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Monday, February 06, 2017

Rumors from the chans

A Pizzagate prediction was made last Thursday:
Information was finally submitted from the FBI to the DOJ today at 3PM. Mr. Sessions was briefed 3 weeks ago as to the investigation in its entirety. Once he assumes his position, arrest warrants will be signed and arrests will be made. This is also why the Democratic Party in DC has been fighting the Sessions vote. Panic.

Furthermore, starting Monday or Tuesday of next week, you will begin to start seeing arrests of individuals. Over 30 politicians and over 40 other individuals throughout DC, VA, and also a handful in NYC. Some may off themselves before they are apprehended, so keep an eye out for that over the weekend and you will know they are involved in some manner.
I'd have ignored it, but Glenn Beck also made some noises about some recent arrests already being made. Sessions hasn't been confirmed yet, and isn't expected to be confirmed until later this week, after he votes on DeVos's confirmation, so that may push the predicted timeline back a little. Could be fake news, of course, as this isn't the first time we've heard some sort of action is imminent. Regardless, we should know within another 7 to 10 days if this source is credible or not.

UPDATE: This may or may not be related, but it certainly sounds a little more credible in light of the 474 arrests that were reported to have been made in California last week.
Hundreds of people were arrested and dozens of sexually exploited children and adult victims were rescued across California during a statewide operation to combat human trafficking, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department announced Tuesday.

More than 30 federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and task forces, including the Los Angeles Regional Human Trafficking Task Force, participated in the third annual “Operation Reclaim and Rebuild” enforcement operation, according to a sheriff’s news release.

The statewide operation took place over the three-day period between last Thursday and Saturday.

In total, 474 arrests were made, including 142 males on solicitation charges, and 36 males on suspicion of pimping, according to figures provided by the Sheriff’s Department.

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Blogger Durandel Almiras February 06, 2017 10:39 AM  

I cannot wait for them to delve into Pizzagate. It will be the most enjoyable "I told you so" to so many friends and family, especially those who opposed Trump.

"These are the kind of people you want in charge?" Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope February 06, 2017 10:40 AM  

which will be met with crickets from the MSM.
And that means precisely nothing, since victory no longer consists of forcing the enemy to acknowledge the moral rightness of our actions. Cuckservatives can still continue to crave the sanction of the media masters, and see where that gets them.

But winning consists of defeating the enemy and taking away their power structures, and driving them out of your territory. Something neoconservatives will never understand.

Blogger SteelPalm February 06, 2017 10:49 AM  

This would be absolutely fantastic if true, but much like with the rumors of Crooked Hillary being charged with a crime (and even arrested), I'm very, very skeptical.

Blogger Ransom Smith February 06, 2017 10:51 AM  

Honestly, at this point in them , 4chan has infinitely more credibility than the MSM.

Blogger Alexander February 06, 2017 10:51 AM  

Assuming this comes out, then every press - individual and company - that went out of it's way to mock and undermine Pizzagate should be up for investigation.

It's one thing to say a news agency has limited resources, and can't follow up on everything that comes out during a campaign. Regardless of if that's a weasel.

But it's another thing entirely to actively choose to bring up #Pizzagate, particularly in articles that had nothing to do with it, to tarnish it as #fakenews... while never investigating.

Thankfully, we now have a president who will not pull a David Cameron. And given what Trump supporters have had to deal with, the counterattack is going to be glorious.

#PunchAPedophile

Blogger VD February 06, 2017 10:52 AM  

I'm very, very skeptical.

I am moderately skeptical. But the fact that James Alefantis was just proven to own a site called Kidzworld.com makes me less skeptical than I was. As does the fact that various well-informed individuals went radio silent.

Blogger Student in Blue February 06, 2017 10:53 AM  

Sessions will probably do an amazing job once he's installed. I can only wait and hope he roots out more of this slimy corruption.

Anonymous Eduardo February 06, 2017 10:55 AM  

@1

Oh... you are sooo wrong friend n_n.

They might be against human traficking, but adults having sex with kids... I don't think so.

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 10:56 AM  

Play the left's game.

There is only one thing - one thing - in this world worse than a Nazi: a pedo.

You know the pedos by their politics; they are against Trump.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 10:59 AM  

It is all but certain that there is something "there", given the repeated pedo cases over the last 20 years where coverups eventually failed. But those same cases either led to dead guys like Saville or small fish, so I'm skeptical that there will be any really important people indicted.

If Alefantis disappears, or dies suddenly of an unexplained heart attack like Breitbart, that will be significant, because for sure he knows something about a lot of very important people in the DC political machine.

OpenID paworldandtimes February 06, 2017 11:00 AM  

Any high-profile figures leaving the country in haste?

PA

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 06, 2017 11:01 AM  

If pizza gate hits the reactions in the Hoax media will tell us how much evidence the DOJ has. If the media fights it hard then we know that there is a lot of circumstantial but no smoking gun tying the higher ups into the scandal. If the media ignores it and avoids reporting on it we know that the DOJ has everyone dead to rights including members of their inner circle.

Blogger Stilicho February 06, 2017 11:08 AM  

That "chicken lover" tweet of Alefantis' that someone unearthed during the campaign (weird picture of a man w/a todler), the "Bucks camping" business he owns, the connection to Brock/Hillary/Podesta, are like huge neon arrows pointing to another pedo ring. If even part of this is true, Sessions is going. To need a flame thrower.

Blogger Alexander February 06, 2017 11:09 AM  

@11

And so the motivation behind #Calexit is unearthed.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2017 11:11 AM  

The cult thought they were untouchable that makes me believe all was sanctioned, so I put this at 60+% chance of being true.

Blogger haus frau February 06, 2017 11:12 AM  

If arrests on prominent figures really do happen I expect the media to revive some version of the "Satanism hysteria" smear from the 80's or scream "McCarthyism" and do their best to claim the arrests are political in nature while at the same time down playing any evidence. It's worked so far so I wouldn't expect them to change their winning formula. I do hope that if this happens the public is cynical enough by now that it won't work.

Blogger MrPaules February 06, 2017 11:12 AM  

Ask yourself what a father would do with this information. If Sessions knows, then his boss knows too. Everything I've seem from Trump so far informs me that he's going to react from the gut as a father would. Millstones for the guilty!

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 11:12 AM  

@14
GIves new meaning to the term "Sanctuary City".

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 06, 2017 11:12 AM  

@13 - If even part of this is true, Sessions is going. To need a flame thrower.

Sessions is going to need to take off and nuke the site from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

Blogger Dangeresque February 06, 2017 11:15 AM  

During Joe Rogan's recent podcast featuring Alex Jones (which was excellent by the way) AJ said a roll-up of the pedo network has already begun from the bottom up: http://ktla.com/2017/02/01/474-arrested-28-sexually-exploited-children-rescued-during-statewide-human-trafficking-operation-lasd/

Leftists on suicide watch.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 06, 2017 11:20 AM  

If Calexit happens, do you think Trump and Sessions wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a raid in Los Angeles to nab some wanted pedophiles?

The ultimate fuck you, served up ice cold.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 06, 2017 11:22 AM  

I don't know what to make of pizzagate. There's just enough there to make one suspicious, but not enough to be convincing.

Part of me hopes it's all a conspiracy theory for the obvious reason that no children would have been hurt in that case. But if there's truth to it, I hope Trump goes on a righteous crusade against the people involved.

While we're on the topic, what happens in Hollyweird is an open secret. Trump should direct the FBI's attention their way.

Blogger Shimshon February 06, 2017 11:23 AM  

I would think just the pictures of the multiple unidentified babies in various poses at Instagram and other sites (with or without the creepy comments) would warrant multiple visits to ascertain who those children are and on who's authority their images are posted publicly. I bet that's going to prove difficult in at least one case. There is no way it's all a big fat nothing.

My skeptical friend just asked me today what's going on about it. I did mention, before seeing this post, that Sessions is not yet AG and that IMHO is likely holding things up.

Blogger SouthRon February 06, 2017 11:24 AM  

Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos.

The greatest ability of man is the ability to rationalize anything. Never bet against the depravity of man.

Blogger Akulkis February 06, 2017 11:26 AM  

CalExit isn't much of a problem.

CA National Guard soldiers certainly do not want to work for a bunch of pedos from across America, and I'm sure that CA state police and CA Highway Patrol also have zero desire to work for pedos. All three would look to apprehend and extradite any guilty parties back to U.S. and the custory of FBI or U.S. Marshall Service.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 06, 2017 11:27 AM  

There's no question anymore that child trafficking and pedophilia (at least) has been going on in D.C., involving some powerful people. The media overreaction out of left field confirmed that. The question is who was involved, and how deeply -- as participants, or facilitators, or both? Were some of the big names only involved to get paid and set others up for blackmail, or were they partaking themselves? Those who were also involved in the occult are unlikely to have stayed clear.

I think Trump knew at least the edges of it, when he said at the Al Smith dinner: "Everyone knows, of course, Hillary’s belief that, 'It takes a village,' which only makes sense, after all, in places like Haiti, where she’s taken a number of them."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 06, 2017 11:30 AM  

He also knows Epstein. He knows more than anyone realizes.

Blogger chris February 06, 2017 11:30 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT9Hvc4Sy1k

Even the Ceausescu's were self righteous to the very end. An SJW always doubles down. They never show any contrition.

Anonymous carnacki February 06, 2017 11:31 AM  

"chans" are not on our side. This pizzagate thing was a false flag operation from the start, its only purpose being to make our side look like loonies and conspiracy theorists.

Blogger Akulkis February 06, 2017 11:34 AM  

Shut up, carnacki.

If this was merely what you say it is, how come so many people were able to find so many things that are NOT on the chans, and most of which was obtained DIRECTLY FROM THE suspects' own internet presence?

Blogger Akulkis February 06, 2017 11:34 AM  

By the way, Carnacki, how long have you been diddling toddlers?

This is a direct question.

Blogger Mocheirge February 06, 2017 11:36 AM  

carnacki wrote:"chans" are not on our side. This pizzagate thing was a false flag operation from the start, its only purpose being to make our side look like loonies and conspiracy theorists.

"Hello fellow alt-right people."

Our side already looks like loonies and conspiracy theorists to the actual loonies and conspirators. Why should I care about their skewed perception of reality?

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 11:41 AM  

RE: Calexit

The precedent to use is Manuel Noriega.

Whether the pedos and victims are no longer US citizens is not relevent to the fact that if true, US citizens broke US laws and US victims need justice (pedo is crime against State, not just individs anyway). An exit need not save them, and actually makes invasion by fed forces easier.

Blogger sysadmn February 06, 2017 11:41 AM  

If arrests happen, expect MSM to focus on the 'hypocritical' RINO or two caught up, not the majority of culprits who will turn out to be gay Dems.

Blogger The Kurgan February 06, 2017 11:41 AM  

Can Trump hire Kratman for punishment of pedos as he sees fit please? I'll happily serve as well.

Blogger Earl February 06, 2017 11:41 AM  

Fukn normy

Anonymous carnacki February 06, 2017 11:43 AM  

Yeah, good for you. What i wrote, i wrote for those who find some worth in it. My comment wasn't meant for the assorted nihilist memetards that dominate comment sections of every single alt right site, and I have no interest in arguing with you.

Anonymous gxg February 06, 2017 11:46 AM  

On another site, someone supposedly had inside info that this will hit Washington D.C., Hollywood, Beverly Hills, and the Napa Valley, taking down some high-profile politicians on both sides of the aisle, along with some well known Hollywood and media personalities.

I'm praying this is true. A reckoning for their evil is long overdue.

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 11:47 AM  

@35 I don't think you need Colonel Kratman...just give them the Rosa Luxemburg treatment...

Blogger haus frau February 06, 2017 11:47 AM  

@37 You need to leave. Go home carnacki.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 11:47 AM  

@22
While we're on the topic, what happens in Hollyweird is an open secret. Trump should direct the FBI's attention their way.

The Mann act gives the FBI a lot of authority that could be used, if a given DOJ wanted to use it. That would be a Justice Department that didn't care to protect allies in Hollyweird.

It could happen. I just do not expect that it will.

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 11:49 AM  

carnacki wrote:
"chans" are not on our side. This pizzagate thing was a false flag operation from the start, its only purpose being to make our side look like loonies and conspiracy theorists.

You are aware that three major international kiddy trafficking rings have been broken up with mass arrests in the last 4 months, aren't you?!

Blogger Michael Neal February 06, 2017 11:50 AM  

I'm careful not to jump into conspiracy theories but it's certainly is fine to discuss them as possibilities.

I worked in politics during the Clinton administration and it was actually my father's fire station that discovered Vince Foster's body. He was a Lieutenant but not on duty that day. I talked to the fire fighters involved and they were convinced it was not a suicide but were ordered to shut up by the county.

Doesn't mean they were right, they weren't criminal investigators but they had seen so many suicides that they kind of knew when something wasn't right.

They couldn't go on the record due to their jobs being threatened so their testimonies were not usable.

Blogger horsewithnonick February 06, 2017 11:51 AM  

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Blogger Elocutioner February 06, 2017 11:51 AM  

If Pizzagate is real (and I believe it is) a taking down a pedo ring tied to the top echelons of gov't will be a major undoing of the establishment and the deep state (their blackmail now rendered useless.)

Trump finally nailed the #fakenews, and everything they've done since has stacked up via confirmation bias, so what can they do? Put the final nail in the coffin by defending the #PedoPols? They've been slandering the Church for decades over the pedo priests, does anyone really think they'd be able to defend their DC allies to the church-going normies with prosecutions under way, suicides, plea deals, and suspects who fled the country? Nah, I'm sure that part of the swamp will be fine.

Blogger Student in Blue February 06, 2017 11:51 AM  

@carnacki

The only false flag operation here is you. "Hello fellow alt-righters" indeed.

Your response doesn't even follow the context. Almost as if you don't understand what people are actually saying and are just following a script.

Anonymous Andrew E. February 06, 2017 11:52 AM  

During Joe Rogan's recent podcast featuring Alex Jones (which was excellent by the way)

And you don't even drop a link?

Blogger Harris February 06, 2017 11:55 AM  

I'm waiting to see proof. With all the fake news reports our there, I don't want to fall prey to one simply because it helps "our side."

Having said that, it wouldn't shock me if this was true.

Blogger horsewithnonick February 06, 2017 11:55 AM  

Nor we, you.
Good day to you, sir!

Anonymous Sam the Man February 06, 2017 11:56 AM  

There is something very rotten here.

I remember how they went after Joe Paterno for not pursing a personal vendetta against Jerry Sandusky, his crime of omission was the worst thing ever or so we were told. Back then the narrative was if there was even a hint of kid diddling, then anyone who did not make that their main focus to resolve guilt was guilty of gross negligence at the very least.

In the case of Pedo Island (the politicians that were there), the New Jersey senator (Menendez) who was doing under age prostitutes in the Dominican republic, Podestat's creepy Satanist stuff and whatever relationship he and the Dems had with the kiddy Pizza parlor all is quiet. What happens the press does not want to discuss or even examine it. How can that be when the reporter who busts that wide open would be another Watergate like figure? Whatever is going on, it may well go to a very high level in the commercial and political world to shut down all investigations.

If so I pray that the evil is uncovered an they go after every last one of turds involved in this. Pure evil. I would suspect that there is some agency at work who was organizing this with a goal of having political and civic leaders under their control. Go after them as well. Wind up the entire network and prosecute them fully. G-d hates those who hurt innocence.

OpenID luciussomesuch February 06, 2017 11:59 AM  

--What's with this new use of "nihilist" as a swear word against the Alt Right?

I just saw the same thing last night and I thought it was weird. Hmm. I guess hasbara thinks they can detract from the Alt Right by implying we're not an ethos? . . .

Blogger Knighterrant February 06, 2017 12:01 PM  

Going to lean towards it being another fake just out of a general stance of skepticism towards extreme claims and the frequency with which such claims pop up on /pol/..

Still, I will admit that considering the Trump Administration...

1) ...is more independent then any prior admin and has less
investment in protecting the existing power structure...

2) ...desperately needs to decisively demonstrate their opposition's complete lack of moral credibility and right to rule (especially since the mainstream press is blowing out all its cylinders trying to do the same to the Trump admin)...

3) ...most likely realizes that Trump and/or his staff are more likely to be targeted for violence by their political enemies than any other administration in living memory and may very well face assassination if they do not eliminate their enemies first...

...that it is much more feasible that such a thing would be in the works *IF* they had solid evidence.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 12:03 PM  

@43

The Vince Foster death has all kinds of things that don't pass the smell test, for me the most obvious is this:

A Presidential advisor and personal friend to the First Family is found dead in a Federal park. Who investigates the possible murder? The FBI? The Secret Service? A joint group of DC investigators and Virginia State troopers? Eh?

Nah, the Park Police did all the investigation, including the initial forensic work. That alone doesn't even pass a laugh test.

With Comet PingPong Pizza, if any real investigation happens watch who is running the show. If it's something like the DC Restaurant Codes Enforcement, a coverup is going on.

Anonymous jakob February 06, 2017 12:03 PM  

luciussomesuch wrote:What's with this new use of "nihilist" as a swear word against the Alt Right?

I've noticed that too. I can only imagine that it's more projection coming from the libs.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 12:05 PM  

@51
--What's with this new use of "nihilist" as a swear word against the Alt Right?

"Gravitas" didn't do the job. Good job Noticing how certain words just pop up everywhere. Almost as though some people get advisory emails from some sort of List. Funny, isn't it?

Blogger RobertT February 06, 2017 12:05 PM  

Wow. Good news. Maybe we'll win this whole massive earthquake. Start sending them to prison and they'll start lying low. How about that judge that blocked the immigration orders? Could we get away with throwing him in prison for abuse of power? Or impersonating a person?

Blogger Michael Neal February 06, 2017 12:08 PM  

Just about everything the Clinton's were involved in didn't pass the smell test. But the right got caught up in chasing every single thing making them look paranoid and delusional. I think a lot of them were false flags to make it look like all of these conspiracies couldn't possibly be true.

Anonymous Susan February 06, 2017 12:13 PM  

Something else here is that the NYPD was totally shut down by Loretta Lynch with the threat of more investigations if they went public like they threatened to do.

I also saw a possible video drop planned for this week possibly from O'Keefe's Veritas project that could be linked with this pedogate.

Come on Sessions.

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 12:20 PM  

That's the thing about #pizzagate:

_IF_ everything was aboveboard and legal, and no children were raped at all, then the best possible outcome for the entire affair is that the liberal elite inner circle is fucking weird - and I mean weird - to a point that it alone should rule them out for 99.95% of Americans.

Anonymous MIG February 06, 2017 12:26 PM  

@11 Globe reported that Hillary tried to board a plane for Bahrain but was stopped. I have no idea whether this is fake news or accurate information.

Anonymous Just another commenter February 06, 2017 12:29 PM  

Oh, Please let this be true. I can't think of any better way to shut down the leftist shreik-machine that bring a boatload of really ugly charges that have lots of evidense. Suddenly votes are easier because so many Dem congress-critters are "unavailible." Or recently committed suicide. Make the news SO big it cannot be avoided, like the Pope publicly hanging a dozen preists in St. Peter's Square to "send a message" to pedo-priests and gay priests in an unmistakable way. Let the evidense be so damning, so stomach-churning, and on Dems and statists at such high level that supporting them will be career-ending. Let it be so bad the "survivors" with near misses will turn viciously on their former collegues.

Let the God-Emperor do his grim duty with determination and no mercy on the heretics to the American Way.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 12:31 PM  

@57
The Clinton's are not the point. The point is the "turtle on a fencepost" effect. How does a guy who runs a pizza parlor get to be one of the 50 most influential people in a city like DC? That turtle did not climb up on the fence post.

Someone put that turtle up there. It's not an accident.

Anonymous Sincere Person February 06, 2017 12:33 PM  

@60 carnacki
My comment wasn't aimed at those who are honest about what they claim to be standing for. It was aimed at edgelords/memetards who are ruining discussion on any place like this one.

Hello, fellow alt-Right person! I am also very concerned about discussions being ruined! Could you share more of your concerns with me?

Anonymous WinstonWebb February 06, 2017 12:33 PM  

Guys, guys, guys! Do you not see that carnacki is concerned ? How can you all be so callous in light of such? I mean, it's CONCERN, for the sake of Pete!

Anonymous The Other Donald February 06, 2017 12:33 PM  

Some thoughts on child molesters:

1, Over 95% of all people are heterosexual;
less than 5% are homosexual.
2, Over 95% of all child molesters are men,
but less than 5% of all men are child molesters.
3, A roughly equal number of boys and girls get molested every year.
4, Most child molesters are sexually exclusive.
Men who molest boys don’t usually molest girls, and vice versa.
5, Heterosexual child molesters are a part of the 95%,
while homosexual child molesters are a part of the 5%.
6, Therefore homosexual men are 95% more likely to molest children than heterosexual men.

I can't remember where I got these stats, but I've had them for a long time, and I trust them.

Anonymous MIG February 06, 2017 12:34 PM  

@63 He owns a lot of businesses. Not that it invalidates your point.

Perhaps they should offer him a deal in exchange for talking.

Blogger Michael Neal February 06, 2017 12:34 PM  

no doubt, it warrants more investigation and those are legitimate questions

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 06, 2017 12:35 PM  

@59

Agreed. Thought the same thing when I first read about spirit cooking. Who the hell would want to have anything to do with that? Then I saw the pictures of a spirit dinner where there were cakes made to look like human bodies that were being consumed, happily.

At best, some of the most powerful an influential people in the world are seriously depraved.

Blogger beerme February 06, 2017 12:36 PM  

random shitposters on /pol/ are about as credible as the hoaxing media when it comes to Pizzagate

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 06, 2017 12:37 PM  

Akulkis wrote:CA National Guard soldiers certainly do not want to work for a bunch of pedos from across America, and I'm sure that CA state police and CA Highway Patrol also have zero desire to work for pedos.

They would have to balance that distaste against their loyalty to their pensions, of course. Zero desire to work for pedos, infinite loyalty to their pensions, zero desire to lose their pensions - when you are multiplying by infinity and dividing by zero, it all comes down to limits. There are no limits to evil.

Anonymous VFMUltra February 06, 2017 12:42 PM  

"chans" are not on our side. This pizzagate thing was a false flag operation from the start, its only purpose being to make our side look like loonies and conspiracy theorists.

I see the CTR shills are out in force today. These people come out every time anyone mentions Pizzgate. But to address the shills fake concern trolling, how exactly did it hurt our side, comrade? Trump won, Hillary was made out to look VERY suspect, the Podestas both look guilty as sin, and all the freaks in their shit eating, child sacrificing, shitty music circle are all pulling their profiles and shutting down their communication channels because they know the public at large is on to them. The spirit cooking was NOT it the realm of conspiracy theory. That sort of stuff has long been known to everyone familiar with the esoteric or archaic, it was the link to the Clinton machine that brought the intrigue, the conspiracy theorists...and the shills.

Now go kys faggot.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 06, 2017 12:44 PM  

In reply to my own post @69

Which we like to think is not a problem in the US. Most people like to think that the democratic process keeps out most of the weirdos and when one does squeak through, the press will uncover it and if needed the rule of law will bring justice to those who deserve it.

Yeah. There's a reason those photos of powerful people and celebrities eating cakes made to look like humans weren't put in People or US magazine. They know to normal people, that is repulsive.

Blogger Harris February 06, 2017 12:45 PM  

One Deplorable DT wrote:I don't know what to make of pizzagate. There's just enough there to make one suspicious, but not enough to be convincing.

Part of me hopes it's all a conspiracy theory for the obvious reason that no children would have been hurt in that case. But if there's truth to it, I hope Trump goes on a righteous crusade against the people involved.

While we're on the topic, what happens in Hollyweird is an open secret. Trump should direct the FBI's attention their way.


If it is true, Trump would do well to focus on completing his agenda while the enemy is busy elsewhere. Let Sessions, or better yet, an Attorney appointed by Sessions, deal with the fallout. The Administration needs to focus on fixing America, not prosecuting crimes - no matter how heinous. Keep the eye on the prize. And let the enemy self-destruct without assistance.

OpenID doktorjeep February 06, 2017 12:49 PM  

This Pizzagate thing is way bigger than one could expect.

Look at what's going on from the macro perspective:

- the judiciary is showing it's status of being pozzed as the "long march through the institutions" of the left indicates, via this travel ban subject, exactly where much of that long march went.
- the neocons are on the march as well, as they are attempting to kill the "Trump rally".

We know EXACTLY what's going on. Everybody in this "room" will know it.

People are getting "the phone call" from the smoky back room. The "you will do what we say or else" call. The "else" being anything ranging from that shady deal from the law firm days to that labor bribe from the county commissioner days but of all that which is most grievous: a lot of these politicians are kid-f**kers.

It's not like a prison for them. Be a criminal or pervert and yes they do control you, but in addition to being controlled, you still get lots of money, PACs, flights on private jets getting served shrimp and lobster, and a host of other benefits. It's not like the extorted are living in hovels, dragging their asses to their representative or judge seats in misery every day constantly under threat.

This PizzaGate thing is huge. What we are dealing with is like a samurai that we cannot beat from the front, but he has no back armor. Pizzagate is that uncovered brain stem. It's that thing that will blow the control off everything and send these corrupt scoundrels packing. Note how the media so rapidly circled the wagons around it? Note how quickly the false-flagged it with a "shooting"? They are not playing around. This is the Borg Cube over earth silently but quickly trying to cover a vulnerability that Captain Picard picked up on and destroyed it.

There is no telling how far the deep state will go to stop this. I would not put it past them to try everything, even up to using a "lost" nuke on a city.

Anonymous VFMUltra February 06, 2017 12:49 PM  

Even if some of them believe that they are fighting the good fight, they are a liability rather than useful assets.

Concern troll is concerned. Go shill somewhere else. The train is fine.

Blogger GracieLou February 06, 2017 12:51 PM  

RE: Suicides

I knew a detective who worked pedophile cases. He said THE GOAL is to get perverts to commit suicide and detectives try very hard to make that happen. The main reason being the toll the legal process takes on victims. He said the trials are disgusting. One time he had to watch a pervert jizz his pants in front of a judge and jury during a little boy's testimony who was so distraught he was screaming, crying and puking.

He then went on to list the very successful pedophile suicides he'd personally facilitated. I remembered reading about them because they'd made the paper, weird suicides like someone stepping in front of a dump truck on a major highway. This all happened in an affluent suburb. And there were A LOT of them.

Blogger Nick S February 06, 2017 12:51 PM  

If there's one thing Trump doesn't need to learn how to do, Harris, it's delegate. He doesn't have the same administrative deficiencies most politicians have. He doesn't need to learn how to be the boss. That's why they are all freaking out. He's large and in charge like a boss.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 12:52 PM  

@73
Yeah. There's a reason those photos of powerful people and celebrities eating cakes made to look like humans weren't put in People or US magazine. They know to normal people, that is repulsive.

There's possibly another reason: some of the cake-eaters were themselves journo-lists.

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 12:59 PM  

I'd like to make some points.

— I have spent a ridiculous amount of time running down every single twist and turn since I first heard about this right before the election. Not everything I found is true but I have no doubt in my mind that it is not only real, it is breathtaking in size and scope.

— The amount of pushback from ‘the other side’ has never been so acute nor chronic.

— Can anyone deny the tweets from Andrew Breitbart right before he died of a mysterious heart attack? What are the odds that his coroner would also die on the day of the release of his autopsy report?

— There is a video on YouTube of Grand Cuck Glenn Beck teasing his audience with a high-level yet cryptic description of what we now know as pizzagate that he said would send vast numbers of congress and officials to jail and likely ‘tear this country apart.’ Then he never mentioned it again after he was known to say that ‘it wasn’t worth having his family killed over it.’

— I have seen entire threads of citizen journalist efforts disappear in real time. LOADS of connections and circumstantial evidence just vanish. When the crowd left Reddit and went to Voat, the CEO of Voat recently and mysteriously resigns.

— I have seen all the satellite photos of Epstein’s island with Egyptian like temple with more than a single underground entrance. Google Earth now adds a lot of blurring so that all the details are obscured.

— I have seen the photographic evidence of the police report and biz card of the responding officer to the complaint in Galveston of the citizen journalist who uncovered the Pegasus Museum who was threatened (he and his entire family) with death by J. Alefantis. That ‘museum’ has so much shady shit going on, it alone merits an entire investigation.

— George Webb has tied a great deal of this to human organ trafficking which makes sense since a large number of people would need to be disposed of after the trafficking/RSA.

We all know that Brownstone operations were real. But society has moved on collectively would yawn at allegations of adultery. There needed to be something so abhorrent that blackmail and control of a subject would be complete. Hell, could there be any other reason for TK to be on the ticket?

— Why does Virginia have roughly eight times the rate of missing children versus the rest of the country despite its smaller population?

I could go on and on. That is the problem. My hope lies in the fact that there are some good guys in the deep state that are working fiercely on the ground war while air cover is coming in the form of Mattis, Kelly, Tillerson, et al and especially Sessions. Hence the delays for confirmation. The rats are looking to escape any way they can and they feel the time is short. I am also betting that Carlos Danger is singing like a canary and that driving the careful trap setting so that as many rats as possible get caught in the drag net.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper February 06, 2017 1:00 PM  

I'll note that the annual White House Corespondents Dinner is being put on the chopping block.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cancel-dinner-plans-send-nerd-prom-to-the-history-books/2017/02/05/556c31fa-e995-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.8a56c0815cfe

Being is basically a weird mix of journalists, celebs and politicians I wonder if there in any connection to the Pizzagate stuff

probably not but still it is interesting.

Anonymous Michael Maier February 06, 2017 1:01 PM  

2, Over 95% of all child molesters are men,

No.

Blogger Doom February 06, 2017 1:06 PM  

I remain skeptical. Hopeful on some fronts. Now, though, if they do happen to go after, and get, some significant pedos? Will they then clear public schools? Will they go after public groups, such as man boy love? Go after public resources being used for that? Burn.

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 1:13 PM  

I meant to mention that the sting that Beck mentioned may have been due to the efforts of a group of law enforcement types that he is in regular contact with and may or may not be part of the greatly hoped for round up sparked by pizzagate revelations. Glenn has known all about this stuff since 2013 and here we are.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 06, 2017 1:15 PM  

@80

There's possibly another reason: some of the cake-eaters were themselves journo-lists.

Oh, I'm sure they were. Thus it stays out of the news. Because they know that normal people seeing that are not going to have a positive reaction.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 06, 2017 1:21 PM  

Harris wrote:One Deplorable DT wrote:I don't know what to make of pizzagate. There's just enough there to make one suspicious, but not enough to be convincing.

Part of me hopes it's all a conspiracy theory for the obvious reason that no children would have been hurt in that case. But if there's truth to it, I hope Trump goes on a righteous crusade against the people involved.

While we're on the topic, what happens in Hollyweird is an open secret. Trump should direct the FBI's attention their way.


If it is true, Trump would do well to focus on completing his agenda while the enemy is busy elsewhere. Let Sessions, or better yet, an Attorney appointed by Sessions, deal with the fallout. The Administration needs to focus on fixing America, not prosecuting crimes - no matter how heinous. Keep the eye on the prize. And let the enemy self-destruct without assistance.


I would agree here. They do need some assistance but Trump should only be directly involved to the extent that he can use this as a lever against his opposition. Put together a competent team with sterling integrity to carry out the prosecution and move on. Most of Trumps enemies will be likely be swept up in this if true so he should be able to press his agenda forward at lightning pace. Any who are left are wide open to "you were friends with multiple pedophiles for decades and failed to notice. I don't think you have the best of judgement" as a retort.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE February 06, 2017 1:22 PM  

""chans" are not on our side."

Hahahaha, what? 4chan is basically where most alt right people come from - they were libertarians (Ron Paul, /b/) until they got hit in the face with reality. 4chan/8chan isn't "on" our side, they are a PART of our side.

Blogger Alvin von Diaspar February 06, 2017 1:23 PM  

These pedo rings should be publicly hanged, all its members at once, and the whole thing should be televised.

Blogger Pteronarcyd February 06, 2017 1:27 PM  

Durandel Almiras wrote:
""These are the kind of people you want in charge?" Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos."

This could be the catalyst for them to kick off their pedophile rights agenda.

Blogger praetorian February 06, 2017 1:28 PM  

Here's one thing that's bothered me for quite a while: remember when Eric Prince, the CEO of blackwater, said he had friends in NYPD central who were ready to make arrests immediately?

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/

It's all there you can still listen to it, and the question is: why would this guy completely blow out his public credibility on this? Or was he being gaslit? Or was it delayed and pizzagate is part of it? It wasn't enough to influence the election: anyone reading Breitbart and listening to that was a trump voter already. What was the point of it?

I can't make any sense of that happening in particular.

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 1:30 PM  

Anyone else besides me think that this is what Trump was referring to when asked about Putin being a killer during the pre-Super Bowl interview?

He said, we have a lot of killers too or some such. It wasn't some lame throw away equivalency statement. He was calculated I am sure.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:31 PM  

I heard Alex Jones, I believe he was on the Joe Rogan podcast, talking about this also. He said they are already rolling up a bunch who capture the kids.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:33 PM  

@1 Durandel Almiras

Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos.
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O RLY? A bunch of them are pedo supporters. There are a couple that are surely pedos themselves.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 06, 2017 1:34 PM  

@76 Just like the traitor in the Matrix movies: he knows he's living a lie and he's just eating ones and zeroes, but man, does that steak taste good.

What a dream it would be to have President Trump at the National Press Club dinner call a number of people up to the stage for an 'award' and then turn the podium over to police to have them arrested and taken away.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:35 PM  

AJ was hilarious in that podcast. They were downing shots of whisky or some kind of liquor.

On this topic, he had said something like there is an underground battle going on between steak eating heterosexual men who like women vs pot bellied pedos :P

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:38 PM  

@6 VD

I am moderately skeptical. But the fact that James Alefantis was just proven to own a site called Kidzworld.com makes me less skeptical than I was. As does the fact that various well-informed individuals went radio silent.
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This was their ploy. In their desperation, they tried to make it only about comet pizza.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:40 PM  

@9 Silly But True
Play the left's game.

There is only one thing - one thing - in this world worse than a Nazi: a pedo.

You know the pedos by their politics; they are against Trump.
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And as the censors start removing and banning people talking about pedos, use the term Pizza Monster. Everybody will know exactly what you are talking about.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer February 06, 2017 1:40 PM  

praetorian wrote:Here's one thing that's bothered me for quite a while: remember when Eric Prince, the CEO of blackwater, said he had friends in NYPD central who were ready to make arrests immediately?


It's all there you can still listen to it, and the question is: why would this guy completely blow out his public credibility on this? Or was he being gaslit? Or was it delayed and pizzagate is part of it? It wasn't enough to influence the election: anyone reading Breitbart and listening to that was a trump voter already. What was the point of it?

I can't make any sense of that happening in particular.


I have been wondering about that one myself. He definitely has the connections to be in the know about these issues. I am wondering if the leaks themselves like that are what scuttled the operation. Soros/david brock have people monitoring pretty much every semi-popular blog/forum/news site. It wouldn't take them much time to see that story and notify the appropriate people in the bureaucracy to scuttle an operation.

Blogger Vanished friend February 06, 2017 1:42 PM  

Pizzagate destroyed my feeble psyche and led to important relationships being ruined. If I remain a useless cripple for the rest of my life, I pledge to make penance by at least learning how to construct the crucifixes Kratman will need to execute Great Justice.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit February 06, 2017 1:45 PM  

SouthRon wrote:Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos.

Fifty years ago they said the same about homosexuality.

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 1:47 PM  

Were-puppy

That is exactly why Alefantis lost his shit about the museum. He even told the guy to delete the video about Pegasus but that Ryan, the guy from Galveston, could keep all the stuff about the pizza shop. The Comet is speculated to be a show room for the merchandise. Nothing that can be plausibly denied goes on there perhaps. But the museum freaked him out enough to reach out and threaten to waste the dude and his family. The video was immediately mirrored so ... heh, not effective at all.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:49 PM  

@20 Dangeresque
Leftists on suicide watch.
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That's the one! But lets don't make the mistake of assuming this is only leftists. Hassert is in prison right now over this.

Anonymous Tipsy February 06, 2017 1:50 PM  

#5454 wrote:Anyone else besides me think that this is what Trump was referring to when asked about Putin being a killer during the pre-Super Bowl interview?

He said, we have a lot of killers too or some such. It wasn't some lame throw away equivalency statement. He was calculated I am sure.


Here's a question: The police renderings of the perps in the Madeleine McCann disappearance look so much like the Podesta brothers, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Carlos Danger, all of whom knew one another, that it beggars the mind to imagine that there would be another perverted quartet of doppelgangers involved in the same sordid business in the world.

Do you suppose there is any evidence to connect them in reality, or are the drawings somehow faked, in your opinion?

Blogger Otto Lamp February 06, 2017 1:51 PM  

Follow the money, or in this case the Podestas.

If they have left the country, then there is something to the story.

Anonymous SaltyDonnie February 06, 2017 1:54 PM  

Vox:

If you haven't seen it, Kurt Schlichter posted an article at Townhall (also mentioned don Ace of Spades) that may interest you - "The Left Hates You. Act Accordingly".

As someone that started following your blog about 1 1/2 ago, I am suddenly realizing a lot of others either coming around to your line of thinking, or reaching it on their own. Myself included. I am personally convinced the Alt-Right is now "a thing," as the brainless twits say.

Blogger praetorian February 06, 2017 1:55 PM  

It wouldn't take them much time to see that story and notify the appropriate people in the bureaucracy to scuttle an operation.

It would be incredible if that's the case.

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 1:55 PM  

One question if high ranking judges get busted will their rulings be undone as they were blackmailable?

"These are the kind of people you want in charge?" Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos.

There are huge swaths of shitlibdom that don't consider sex with 14yos to be bad.

Any high-profile figures leaving the country in haste?

All of silicon valley and CAexit? http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-doomsday-preppers-new-zealand-2017-1 Weka might have to take care of them for us.

Can Trump hire Kratman for punishment of pedos as he sees fit please? I'll happily serve as well

Come on now guys I need material for my game show. Think of the concessions TRUMP can get from Russia to let PUTIN be a celebrity contestant on SOROS CLAN week.

some high-profile politicians on both sides of the aisle, along with some well known Hollywood and media personalities

Of course it will hit politicians on both sides, those areas that should have firebrand conservatives for representatives often have milquetoast jewish lawyers from NYC for a reason.

I remember how they went after Joe Paterno for not pursing a personal vendetta against Jerry Sandusky, his crime of omission

That was to provide cover for (((Graham Spanier)))

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros February 06, 2017 1:55 PM  

"Not even the most SJW of SJWs will have a rhetorical justification of supporting and rallying behind pedos."

Look at South America on the map. Imposing the social construct of our specific age of consent laws by force is implicitly racist. You're basically a colonialist White Supremacist if you want to punish South Americans for following their cultural norms after they've made such a hard journey and faced so much persecution. Why can't a 30-year-old Mexican bring his 14-year-old girlfriend? Do you hate love? Would it really be so bad if your 14-year-old daughter fell in love with a 30-year-old Mexican if it's real love?

Remember that Western countries have reunited child brides with their "husbands" to avoid stepping on the toes of third-worlders.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 1:57 PM  

@47 Andrew E.
And you don't even drop a link?
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It's this one -
https://youtu.be/UZPCp8SPfOM

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 2:00 PM  

Tipsy,

Try this out regarding the Clement Freud/Podesta connection.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 2:01 PM  

@56 RobertT

Or impersonating a person?
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Impersonating a person might be easier than anyone thought.

Look at the doc at this link from 1983. It's title is Recruitment, and in it the CIA is referencing clones.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp85b01152r000400460003-3

Anonymous Discard February 06, 2017 2:06 PM  

84. Doom: If the top layer of pedos is removed or scared into silence, there will be no cover for the ordinary ones. The non-pedo liberals will not want to touch the tar baby. Let the witch hunt begin. They are witches, you know.

Blogger VD February 06, 2017 2:07 PM  

You're banned and spammed, carnacki. Take your concern-trolling elsewhere.

Blogger Alexander February 06, 2017 2:08 PM  

Age is just a number, lol.

Anyway, most progressives will never have to actually come to terms that the pedophilia is bad if they can state that the pedophilia never happened, and this is just another example of FASCISM seeking to get rid of its enemies.

If it's there, it must be exposed. If exposed, it must be purged. But let's not kid ourselves: Winning was never going to make our enemies repent.

Blogger James Dixon February 06, 2017 2:11 PM  

> random shitposters on /pol/ are about as credible as the hoaxing media

A random poster on /pol/ has a chance of being right. The working assumption with the media is that they are deliberately lying.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 06, 2017 2:16 PM  

If it is true, Trump would do well to focus on completing his agenda while the enemy is busy elsewhere.

I'm confident that President Trump will not don a Sherlock Holmes deerstalker and magnifying glass and head out looking for clues; nor will he interrogate suspects or cross-examine witnesses. Not to worry.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 2:19 PM  

@81 #5454

— The amount of pushback from ‘the other side’ has never been so acute nor chronic.
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Now that I think about it, remember the Hitlery alt-right speech? If you listen closely, she was saying alt-right and conspiracy theorists. She knew this was going to be dug out of those emails. And not just those emails, but the untapped Wiener emails. Those are probably a veritable treasure trove. She wasn't just going after Alex Jones. She was trying to smear anybody who might dig into their crimes.

— I have seen entire threads of citizen journalist efforts disappear in real time. LOADS of connections and circumstantial evidence just vanish. When the crowd left Reddit and went to Voat, the CEO of Voat recently and mysteriously resigns.
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That's damn scary. I hadn't heard about this. I hope the researchers are making backups somewhere else.


— I have seen all the satellite photos of Epstein’s island with Egyptian like temple with more than a single underground entrance. Google Earth now adds a lot of blurring so that all the details are obscured.
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Did you see the photo of the place there like some outdoor arches that have the bohemian grove owl perched on top?


I am also betting that Carlos Danger is singing like a canary
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They might be getting him to sing by only going after him on the 15 yr old charge.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE February 06, 2017 2:19 PM  

The one downside of /pol/ is that there is the occasional LARPer who posts stuff like this. We'll know there is something to this once Sessions takes command.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 2:22 PM  

@90 #5454

Anyone else besides me think that this is what Trump was referring to when asked about Putin being a killer during the pre-Super Bowl interview?
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I took it as a reference to the Clinton Crime Family. But I hope you're right.

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 2:23 PM  

I only partially joke: #pizzagate makes me long for accusations of the 2010 Senate election re: Christine O'Donell "I am not a witch."

How depraved will 2018 demo primaries be when the best they can run is "Yes. Ok, I may be a witch - you know in the nice Buffy the Vampire sense of worshipping Mother Nature - but at least I don't fuck and eat 7 year old boys like my opponent."

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 2:23 PM  

Therefore homosexual men are 95% more likely to molest children than heterosexual men

I hate to be the one to correct your math but you just said that gays are less than twice as likely to molest than STR8s.

balance that distaste against their loyalty to their pensions, of course. Zero desire to work for pedos, infinite loyalty to their pensions

If CA goes they are not going to get pensions from CA pedos or pedros.

It's all there you can still listen to it, and the question is: why would this guy completely blow out his public credibility on this?

That was before the election, when TRUMP won it became important not to let Obama give himself a pardon. Also if TRUMP took out 1/2 of democrats in the Senate/congress his first week it would slow his appointments.

Anonymous An Extremely Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than A Basket Of Twenty Deplorable Cents February 06, 2017 2:26 PM  

@115
I'm confident that President Trump

President Trump, not President Clinton.

Feels good, man. Just wanted to say that.
As you were.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 2:27 PM  

@102 Tipsy
Do you suppose there is any evidence to connect them in reality, or are the drawings somehow faked, in your opinion?
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My problem with that is, why? Why would they go there themselves and kidnap a girl? Was it some kind of initiation? Or are we back to the . . . clones lol

I probably shouldn't be silly with this, as it's such serious business.

Anonymous Sharrukin February 06, 2017 2:34 PM  

121. Were-Puppy

My problem with that is, why? Why would they go there themselves and kidnap a girl? Was it some kind of initiation?

1. They think they are untouchable and so far they have been right about that.

2. It may not have been a kidnapping, but a sale by the parents.

Anonymous BluePony February 06, 2017 2:39 PM  

Call me crazy, but I'm going to go with hoping it's NOT true because that's the condition where hundreds of kids DIDN'T get molested.

Honestly, who hopes for something like this to be true regardless of how useful the political fallout would be? We can win without an evil like this.

Blogger Gaiseric February 06, 2017 2:41 PM  

Winning against pedophiles. Some folks in Washington are running scared. http://www.alternativenewsnetwork.net/donald-trump-pedophiles-will-get-death-penalty/

Blogger Ron February 06, 2017 2:48 PM  

@were-puppy

I have seen all the satellite photos of Epstein’s island with Egyptian like temple with more than a single underground entrance. Google Earth now adds a lot of blurring so that all the details are obscured.

WTF?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit February 06, 2017 2:50 PM  

@123 BluePoney Yes dear, you keep on believing that - I'm sure that will change the ultimate nature of reality. Alternatively, keep your head in the sand and let the grown ups deal with what's actually happening.

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 2:52 PM  

My problem with that is, why? Why would they go there themselves and kidnap a girl?

Imagine you are at a party that ran out of chips, or only had Haitian cheese chips people didn't like. If they don't do it themselves they are stuck with whatever other people think they want. Think of a the little girl as a suitcase full of cocaine playing unwatched in a backyard across from a place Charlie Sheen was staying.

The fact they would be flying out of the country made it more likely they would be willing to risk it. When I reported sizable healthcare fraud I did it knowing that a week later I would be 1000+ miles away & none of the people whose lives that got ruined by sunlight could strike back at me. It turned out people didn't even realize it was me after it went down.

donald-trump-pedophiles-will-get-death-penalty/

Glass ceilings anyone, the first female presidential candidate to be garroted to death?

Blogger SirHamster February 06, 2017 2:53 PM  

Glenn Beck also made some noises about some recent arrests already being made.

Thought it an odd violation of opsec that anyone would leak that info to him and get it broadcasted to potential suspects.

Hopefully it's because the suspects are already monitored and this is beating the bush to flush more out.

Anonymous gxg February 06, 2017 2:59 PM  

BluePony wrote:Honestly, who hopes for something like this to be true regardless of how useful the political fallout would be? We can win without an evil like this.

You're being silly. No one here wants to discover that kids have been harmed. Rather, we're not blind to the fact that such evil exists and want to see evil-doers punished and prevented from doing further harm.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 3:00 PM  

@115
I'm confident that President Trump

Yeah. President Trump. Not President Clinton.

President Trump

He won't be perfect, he will screw up, he will disappoint. But he won't get us in a war over Syria, and there's a chance the FBI might just flip more flat rocks over than ever before. Not for sure, but a chance.

President Trump.

Just feels good, man. President Trump.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 3:05 PM  

Oh, it is the lulz!
Somalis self-deporting to Canada. Because Trump is scary.

If the 9th Circus is overturned, expect more self-deportation.

Trump 2016 for the LolZ!

Anonymous Eric the Red February 06, 2017 3:07 PM  

OT, but I don't care because there doesn't appear to be any sense of urgency:

For too long the left has distorted the meaning of the Constitution to bypass the legislative and executive branches, and force its agenda down everyone's throats. All they have to do is find a black-robed petty dictator who will give them what they want, and it automatically trumps any efforts by the people or their elected representatives. The left has successfully used this weapon in its arsenal for decades; unfortunately the right has never found a better weapon to counter it.

I don't understand everyone's insouciance on this issue (including Vox). There is no recognition that the left will use lawfare to obstruct every inch of Trump's policies. If he attempts to fight on the lefts' terms, he will be embroiled in endless litigation. Trump is brilliant at deal-making, but that is generally only good for one-off situations. Instead, Trump must find a sword to cut through the Gordian Knot of judicial fiat, and he must do it quickly. Otherwise his administration will be endlessly delayed in implementing its policies.

Just changing judges here or there will have little effect, and will take longer than four years regardless. It will be death by a thousand cuts. Also, Trump's now loyal following will get discouraged over that time if their beloved God-Emperor is seen to be ineffective against an enraged left. By the time the next presidential election rolls around, the left will be so energized that a Trump defeat becomes inevitable.

The alt-right should be at the forefront of investigating this issue, and discovering creative solutions for it. Basically I think that Trump must declare he doesn't recognize these rulings, declare them to be null-and-void based on the Executive branch's sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, release his own legal rationale to the public, and direct the bureaucracy to ignore these black-robed leftist dictators and otherwise implement his EO's.

It would be absolutely delicious to hear the leftists squeal by taking a page out of their own playbook. However, if structural changes cannot be made, then this country is lost forever to the left, and they know it.

Blogger Cail Corishev February 06, 2017 3:12 PM  

Why would they go there themselves and kidnap a girl?

Maybe they didn't go there for that, but were on vacation and saw a prospect they liked, and improvised. Maybe they didn't do the grab personally, but were in the area as spotters for those who did. Maybe they crave the risk of being caught in the act. That's what often leads to serial offenders being caught: they take bigger and bigger risks, perhaps because that adds to the excitement.

It doesn't really matter. If you have police sketches that are dead ringers for two men who are known to have the wealth and travel options to make it possible (means and opportunity), and they're also known to have pervy pictures of kids in their homes (motive), you question those men.

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 3:17 PM  

Ron,

These show the temple with all the esoteric statues but none of the underground entrances. There are two that have been found with fairly high rez images. I will need to research again but they could be lost. So many threads taken down.

Epstein also owns another nearby island that was constructing similar things (tunnels, roads, etc) and the locals were PISSED about the harming of nature.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 3:19 PM  

@123 BluePony
Call me crazy, but I'm going to go with hoping it's NOT true because that's the condition where hundreds of kids DIDN'T get molested.
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Nobody wants this stuff to be true.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 3:20 PM  

@125 Ron
@were-puppy

I have seen all the satellite photos of Epstein’s island with Egyptian like temple with more than a single underground entrance. Google Earth now adds a lot of blurring so that all the details are obscured.

WTF?
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I haven't looked at pedo island on Google Earth.
But I can attest that they do blur things out.

Google earth is a fun tool you can look at the moon, mars, and space with it as well as the earth.

Blogger Paulito February 06, 2017 3:22 PM  

@111 (BluePony)

Hoping isn't going to change reality either way. One can hope that it never happened, sure, but that isn't going to mean that it never happened. And if it did happen, it's much better that the truth comes out than that it stays hidden, no?

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 3:27 PM  

@133 Cail Corishev

Now I have to go back and dig into this. IIRC, the singing canary wiener was also one of the sketches.

Blogger Nick S February 06, 2017 3:27 PM  

@132

Oh ye of little faith, I think you underestimate Trump. He has both strategic and tactical advantages on many fronts.

Although it's fun to speculate, people should stop trying to convince others of what Trump should do and just watch and learn. That should have become obvious to everyone by now.

While I'm thinking about it, it's aggravating to keep hearing leftist proclaim the 18 months that the current vetting process takes as some sort of relevant qualifier for thoroughness and never ever get called on it by anyone. For instance, if Fat Bastard takes an extra long time to write a book, does that insure it will be an extra good book? No.

Anonymous MIG February 06, 2017 3:44 PM  

Let's separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were. Pizzagate is not about sex with 14- or 15-year olds. It's about raping, torturing, dismembering, killing, and eating babies and really young children. That's the claim. Is it true? I don't know. It's too horrible to contemplate. Is the first type of pedophilia a gateway crime that leads to the second kind of pedophilia? I have no idea. It's an interesting question.

As long as we don't conflate these two types of phenomena, it is pretty clear to me that the opposition to the second type of pedophilia is not a question of political alliances. It's about human beings being against whatever that other thing is, which is not human.

Anonymous #8601 February 06, 2017 3:46 PM  

Rule number one:

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE TRUMP.

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 3:48 PM  

@132 When Ginsburg retires to NZ or croaks, Trump will have 6 justices. That would put an end to a lot of the lawfare....If things don't go that way, Trump can always flout the court orders, as Obama did on a couple of occasions, or even go full Andy Jackson...If events are flowing the right way, the public will be OK with that.

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 3:49 PM  

@Cail & Were-puppy:
One of the 4 was (allegedly) Wiener / Wiener dead-ringer.

I'm not up on statistics, but I'm sure odds of actual pedophilia allegations being true drastically increase when one of the conspirators is a pedophile (at least what we know of the Wiener investigation that's been leaked so far).

Add in the odds of another random circle, not just limited to Podesta bros., including same perp demogrrandom of the four.

Blogger Basil Makedon February 06, 2017 3:49 PM  

I remain moderately skeptical. Sessions does not strike me as a man who would be involved in such a thing nor a man who would let such a thing slide.

While I've been on the record desiring Rudy for AG because of his ability to destroy mafia-like organizations with RICO, perhaps Sessions would be more suited to apply cleansing fire to this particular situation.

We'll know soon if the warrants, raids, indictments, grand juries and suicides start in a few weeks.

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 3:50 PM  

@131 @140. Why would satanists do satanic things? The question answers itself...It's not like this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

Anonymous Eric the Red February 06, 2017 3:51 PM  

That Epstein temple is not Egyptian, it's mohammedan, right down to the exterior banded wall design. The only things missing are minarets.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 06, 2017 3:51 PM  

Very interesting, very unique timing.

136 excellent observation, I was monitoring that list of 500 along with the lolita island or eptein prop and evilgoogle is obscuring, blurring matters. Therefore Google is complicit and illicit, alt tech will over take them.

I recalled how the Fall of 2016 google kept goofing Gab for Gap. Now Gab.ai cannot be denied.

PizzaGate cannot be denied.

Blogger praetorian February 06, 2017 3:53 PM  

Trump will never implement a muslim ban
<-- You are here
Trump will never expose and destroy an international satanic pedophile ring that has seized control of your country
Trump will never personally Garrote George Soros live on pay per view TV
Trump will never congratulate Putin on the retaking of Constantinople
Trump will never establish an thousand year interstellar Reich known for eternity simply as The Golden Age

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 3:54 PM  

Vox, I think this is what Judas Goat in a Sweater was referring to on Twitter yesterday.

http://sentinel.ht/2017/02/06/haiti-police-rescue-31-girls-child-trafficking-sting/

Anonymous Sam the Man February 06, 2017 4:09 PM  

If the Pizza gate is true, it has to do with some Baal-Satanic crap which is really, really off the charts weird.

No one seems to deny the Podesta body fluids cooking stuff which is equally satanic or headed in that direction. lady Gaga showed up in one of those pictures, so this might have a Hollywood/entertainment connection as well.

it should be investigated with the most neutral of all investigation, to ensure it does not become a Salem witch trail. On the other hand if they find real evidence of such activities, they should go after all the folks involved root them out and perhaps show no mercy to any one who knew and did nothing. The harming of innocence is not to be tolerated by a civilized people.

Blogger Alexander February 06, 2017 4:09 PM  

Trump will never personally Garrote George Soros live on pay per view TV

Pair it with rent-a-watchtower along the wall, and you've made a sizable dent in the national debt.

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 4:11 PM  

From Old Blighty, the home of mass pedophilia and upper class indifference to it...http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-06/trump-be-barred-speaking-uk-parliaments-westminster-hall

Anonymous Andrew E. February 06, 2017 4:11 PM  

Anyone else besides me think that this is what Trump was referring to when asked about Putin being a killer during the pre-Super Bowl interview?

I think this was mainly a reference to all the death and destruction (words Trump had used during the primary campaign) in the middle east brought about by our stupid wars.

If we're really lucky, he's also referring to the abortion body count at the alter of our divine right to have consequence free sex.

Blogger Avalanche February 06, 2017 4:13 PM  

@61 "Let the God-Emperor do his grim duty with determination and no mercy on the heretics to the American Way."

So mote it be!

Blogger pyrrhus February 06, 2017 4:13 PM  

@146 That Epstein temple is not Egyptian, it's mohammedan, right down to the exterior banded wall design. The only things missing are minarets.

But not missing are the child brides....

Blogger Eric Slate February 06, 2017 4:16 PM  

As a rhetorical attack, would linking leftist movements to the pedos they support be effective?

Blogger Salt February 06, 2017 4:17 PM  

INFOWARS is covering it.

Blogger Avalanche February 06, 2017 4:19 PM  

@79 "Why does Virginia have roughly eight times the rate of missing children versus the rest of the country despite its smaller population?"

Oh God. Now THAT is a stunner....

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 4:29 PM  

When we talk about "Epstein Island," and its visitors, it's good to have some perspective: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/jeffepsteinbisexoffender.jpg

Blogger Avalanche February 06, 2017 4:30 PM  

@127 "Glass ceilings anyone, the first female presidential candidate to be garroted to death?"

Oooh hey! You could raffle off the chance to choose what color boa and paracord you use!! Do it for charity! (To pay for therapy for whatever kids get rescued...)

Blogger Avalanche February 06, 2017 4:39 PM  

@138 "Now I have to go back and dig into this."

Some research shows that Clement Freud -- grandson of "the" Freud owns a house right near where the McCann girl disappeared. Clement is a CONVICTED pedo. Apparently HE was out of town that week -- but had loaned his house to his friends -- THE PODESTAs! (Someone else checked and found that the Podesta's were on a manifest for a private jet that was there at the time. The police 'drawings' were done from witnesses who saw 'a man' carrying a child, about the size of the McCann girl. And WEIRDLY -- Clement, when he returned right after, befriended the McCann parents, invited them to his house, and was "helping" them deal with grief and the police!

Oh, how to tell what is true?!

Blogger Avalanche February 06, 2017 4:44 PM  

Oh sorry, hadn't gone to that link (http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/podesta-brothers-revealed/) yet. It's all there!

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 4:50 PM  

Oooh hey! You could raffle off the chance to choose what color boa and paracord you use!! Do it for charity!

Well I would likely be the only one in a luchador mask using a feather boa, the paracord inner strands are threaded into the center of it, its not a full paracord feather boa. I imagine contestants would use actual garrotes.

As with Putin getting Soros I probably wont be the one to garrote the bigger fish. If I can't monetize who gets to take care of which Clinton, it could be a race the first person to garrote 2 lessor felons to an unrecoverable pulse oximeter reading gets to pick a Clinton. Going with a raffle means you have to decide who is big enough to raffle, as many of the big fishes victims wouldn't have much money to spend. Most of the contestants for small fish would likely be relatives of their victims anyway.

Blogger VFM #7634 February 06, 2017 4:56 PM  

Worried about Trump, asylum seekers walk cold road to Canada

"Since late summer, 27 men from Ghana walked to Manitoba from the United States, Yeboah said. Two lost all their fingers to frostbite in December and nearly froze to death."

kek

Blogger Robert What? February 06, 2017 5:00 PM  

Vox, Obviously this is only speculation, but if PizzaGate is true is it mainly grown men with prepubescent girls or boys?

What is it about politicians, especially Liberal Democrats, that makes sex with children so appealing?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 06, 2017 5:01 PM  

If the usual suspects pull the name Leo Frank out of history's dustbin then the bombers are over the target.

Blogger SDaly February 06, 2017 5:04 PM  

@165 I think you have it backwards. There are powerful people who want to control politicians. Those people want politicians who can be controlled, and promote paedophiles for office & advancement in important organizations (like police/law enforcement) because they can easily be controlled, when necessary.

I think one or two Supreme Court justices have been so placed.

OT - what's with the wikileaks #Vault7 stuff?

Anonymous Rather, Not February 06, 2017 5:11 PM  

It seems like Giuliani is the right Special Prosecutor for Sessions and the big boss man to appoint while they continue doing the peoples' business. Who else is in the running/on the short list for the Special Prosecutor to chase this wherever and everywhere it goes?

Blogger Cail Corishev February 06, 2017 5:14 PM  

@165, that's where the occult angle comes in. It's about power. Occultists believe there is power in innocence and youth, power which they can gain for themselves by destroying or consuming it.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 06, 2017 5:19 PM  

@165 The rumor mill says that the chicks get in on it too. Weiner's 'Life Insurance' folder was supposed to have an in-bed pic of Hillary, Huma, and an underage female.

Percentages might be mostly male just out of opportunity, but it won't be an all-male club.

Anonymous Sharrukin February 06, 2017 5:26 PM  

167. SDaly

OT - what's with the wikileaks #Vault7 stuff?

Maybe...
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/04/midnight-release-again-178-page-fbi-clinton-email-document-release-with-interesting-content/

This is release #6, and interestingly this release is titled “part 06 of 06” so there might not be any more.

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 5:27 PM  

"What is it about politicians, especially Liberal Democrats, that makes sex with children so appealing?"

Why do moslems stone gays to death (with rocks) and mutilate little girls genitals?

One day Moo Ham mads oldest wife hit puberty and he realized the gays were right about his PEN IS being smaller than what is now cut off of little girls


Also if you snort cocaine off a little boys PP, Soros will give you all the money you need to run for office to do his bidding.

"Well I would likely be the only one in a luchador mask"

I would probably have to offer masks to those victims relatives that didn't want to be publicly known.

Blogger Silly But True February 06, 2017 5:38 PM  

We can only look at the principals:
Epstein (convicted): liked to masturbate himself while prodding teen girls with vibrators. Hetro pedo.

Alefantis (a man)(allegedly): ass-fucked his co-owners' teen son in the Comet Ping-Pong kitchen. Gay pedo.

Podesta(s)(allegedly): kidnapped prepubescent girl. Hetro pedo (or fixer for higher up gay pedo?)

Wiener(allegedly): sent dick picks to teen girl for further relationship. Carlos Danger is hetro. Pedo, but probably more likely nympho.

Of those, Epstein's furthest removed in time, proximity, and closeness. He's by all accounts a Bill Clinton guy, not Hillary's (although she attended Island gatherings).

Tough call who's more inner to Hillary: Wiener or Podesta. Alefantis with his "40th Most Powerful Person in DC" ranking during Obama Presidency would seem to be provider to all DC comers, whether Obama, Clinton, or establishment Republicans. Whether his 40th position would become 2nd, remain 40th, or drop off chart in a Presidentette Clinton White House, I have no idea.

Anonymous Car #5454 Where Are You February 06, 2017 5:52 PM  

@165, that's where the occult angle comes in. It's about power. Occultists believe there is power in innocence and youth, power which they can gain for themselves by destroying or consuming it.

I have looked but I cannot find it. Adam Weishaupt is said to have a quote about using sex to control men in high places.

Blogger Jew613 February 06, 2017 5:55 PM  

Robert What?, I believe many of the elite who engage in pedophilia are not themselves attracted to children. But that is the price they pay for admission into the ruling class. After they've done something so terrible they can never go back to normal society or betray their fellow perpetrators because they would be implicated as well. This is an act which binds them together forever.

Blogger LibertyPortraits February 06, 2017 5:56 PM  

Remember remember the dud of November. I have sworn off all 4chan and anon garbage.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 06, 2017 5:58 PM  

@174 The standard acronym is MICES.

Money
Ideology
Compromise (blackmail)
Ego
Sex

Anonymous #5454 February 06, 2017 6:00 PM  

What are the odds that we will never see a redacted photo of that hildaBEAST trio?

Not that I want to, but in the same way photos of Uday and Qusay were released to prove they were dead. Same with their father whose head nearly came off at the gallows. (His cousin's head did come off ... and it was on purpose)

Anonymous Tipsy February 06, 2017 6:05 PM  

A friend of mine was talking to a successful lawyer in LA, who estimated that a good percentage of the upper echelon in the entertainment business are sociopaths.

He told one story about how he was on a balcony by the railing when one executive caught him off guard and pushed him to the point he could have fallen off. He was told that if he wanted to he could kill him. Presumably with no consequences to himself.

Rich, successful and highly connected sociopaths love the fact that they can dispose with anyone anyway they want. It's a diabolical love of power and a love of diabolical power.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2017 6:22 PM  

Well, the California pimp roundup is something that happens from time to time, a lot of small fish get caught up in a trawl like that. Bigger fish, not so much.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 06, 2017 7:01 PM  

Eric the Red wrote:... Trump must find a sword to cut through the Gordian Knot of judicial fiat ...

The judge has made his decision; now let him enforce it. There's your sword.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis Fulminata February 06, 2017 7:07 PM  

No dark stream?

Blogger Sagramore February 06, 2017 7:41 PM  

@76 Hmm, I should probably mention to my cousin that if his neighbour happens to "help the investigation conclude quickly" that he likely won't want to purchase that property.

Blogger John rockwell February 06, 2017 8:18 PM  

Robert What? wrote:Vox, Obviously this is only speculation, but if PizzaGate is true is it mainly grown men with prepubescent girls or boys?

What is it about politicians, especially Liberal Democrats, that makes sex with children so appealing?


Politicians are promoted into power that are Pedo so that they can be blackmailed and do what they are told.

Blogger Feather Blade February 06, 2017 8:39 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:27 men from Ghana walked to Manitoba from the United States, Yeboah said. Two lost all their fingers to frostbite in December and nearly froze to death.

Y'know, if they'd asked, they probably could have gotten flown to Ghana, or anywhere else in Africa for that matter, at US taxpayer expense. No risk of frostbite doing that.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 9:25 PM  

@173 Silly But True

Tough call who's more inner to Hillary: Wiener or Podesta.
---

From what I understand, the emails on Wieners computer were actually downloaded from Humas phone. So the treasure trove would be very close to Hildabeast.

Anonymous Luke February 06, 2017 9:29 PM  

4. Ransom Smith February 06, 2017 10:51 AM
"Honestly, at this point in them , 4chan has infinitely more credibility than the MSM."

I thought of saying "you misspelled 8chan as 4chan", but your original statement is still true (if less blatantly so than is my rewritten version, true IF it's not the SJW mods that are taking over 4chan as similar sorts did Reddit).

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume February 06, 2017 9:53 PM  

You know what's weird, I was following some of the links here and elsewhere just reading the Pizza Gate stuff:

One of the links someone gave here led to a VOAT page that led to a page about the McMartin Abuse Case.

Which led to a mention of a Hermosa Beach Police Detective named Paul Bynum, who investigated the murder of Bill Medley's wife.

He also investigated the serial killings of teenage girls in Redondo Beach.

He later became a P.I. And investigated the McMartin abuse case.

And now, with all of this going on, with Pizza Gate, with Sessions confirmation looming, last week, it was revealed that the murder of Karen Klass was finally solved.

And really it means nothing. But man, what an odd alignment of events.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 10:08 PM  

Check out Ed going over a new DHS advertisement and predictive programming - in regards to PIzza Gate
https://youtu.be/VQAba57jaxw

Anonymous BBGKB February 06, 2017 10:17 PM  

Check out Ed going over a new DHS advertisement and predictive programming - in regards to PIzza

Could it have been more obvious if they had a Comet & Ping Pong?

Blogger Lazarus February 06, 2017 10:28 PM  

Judge Ginzburg in favor of age of consent to be 12 years old.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUXBzgBpvg

Anonymous Jack Amok February 06, 2017 10:41 PM  

Honestly, who hopes for something like this to be true regardless of how useful the political fallout would be? We can win without an evil like this.

I'd like it if pedos didn't exist too, but they do, and the behavior of the Comet Pizza brigade makes me conclude they are pedos. So, at this point what I hope for is that they get caught and punished.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 10:44 PM  

@190 BBGKB
Check out Ed going over a new DHS advertisement and predictive programming - in regards to PIzza

Could it have been more obvious if they had a Comet & Ping Pong?
---

Also noticed the poor girl could have been a haitian outside the place, and then a hillaryish looking woman

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 10:44 PM  

One thing it seems they might go after them on human trafficking grounds, as opposed to pedo grounds.

Blogger Lazarus February 06, 2017 11:04 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:One thing it seems they might go after them on human trafficking grounds, as opposed to pedo grounds.

Easier to prove, I suspect.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 06, 2017 11:12 PM  

The pizza gate seems to gaining a lot of momentum again.

This guy is showing how there is a tie in to the elites, superbowl, sandusky,

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2017/02/pizzagate-is-much-bigger-than-anyone-knows-and-it-is-about-to-explode-2479905.html

Blogger Akulkis February 06, 2017 11:16 PM  

@37 carnacki

"What i wrote, i wrote for those who find some worth in it."

LOL. So many words. So utterly little meaning.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants February 07, 2017 12:40 AM  

Correct. Sadly.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants February 07, 2017 12:53 AM  

At this point, in Hollyweird at least, I seriously doubt there's anyone who doesn't know about Brian Singer, Charlie Sheen, & the old queer dude from Harry Potter, at the very least. If someone every kicks over that woodpile, the snakes that run out will be legion.

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