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Tuesday, March 28, 2017

Cerno comments on 60 Minutes

Don't judge by theory, judge by the metrics. Mike pointed out in the comments here that his counterintuitive decision to go on 60 Minutes was clearly justified by the results.
Left wing Twitter expected me to be savaged last night, and you know what they did....They went silent on me because I won and are pissed at 60 Minutes and Pelley. The #1 blog on Buzzfeed today was about how I won. This was quite clearly a major win by all metrics.
I tend to agree. As I mentioned in the Darkstream last night, it's very easy to see why Mike was justified in deciding to make an exception for 60 Minutes. Some statistics from Periscope:

2d ago 60 Minutes questions 6.5k viewers
1d ago Cernovich watches 60 Minutes special on fake news 65k viewers
18h ago #voxday Too big to ignore 838 viewers

 As I always say, Mike knows what he's doing when it comes to the media. Mike not only popped his Periscope viewership by 10x overnight, people are now FAR more interested in getting his viewpoint than, for example, mine, as a result. That is not the hallmark of someone who does not know what he is doing.

Which is why, if your name is not "Mike Cernovich", I strongly suggest you shut the fuck up about how to handle the media, especially if you find yourself tempted to criticize Mike's media strategy. He knows the game, he knows how to play it, and he knows when to make exceptions to the general rules. You don't.

Would I have gone on 60 Minutes? No. Would I have advised Mike to do so? No. And that is one reason why Mike's recent Periscope has 65k viewers and my most recent one has 838.

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Anonymous Pony1 March 28, 2017 11:46 AM  

The left can't stand the idea of anyone on the 'alt-right' even having a platform to voice their opinions so of course they are worked up... they are still pissed that Fallon had Trump on back in September.

The numbers don't lie, looks like it's another net win for Cernovich... glad he's on our side.

(And yes I know Mike doesn't consider himself Alt-Right).

Anonymous deplorable six pan March 28, 2017 11:48 AM  

It's generally advisable to not walk into lion's dens or fiery furnaces. But if your heart is pure and you have faith in your convictions....

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 28, 2017 11:52 AM  

Fortune favors the bold

Anonymous WaterBoy March 28, 2017 11:53 AM  

Vox: " And that is one reason why Mike's recent Periscope has 65k viewers and my most recent one has 838."

Another reason, albeit lesser scope, is that for some technical reason I have not been able to "see" any of your periscope sessions for the last month or so.

I first thought it was a proxy block at work, but I have the same issue at home and mobile as well. Is Periscope requiring an account in order to access these sessions, now?

Anonymous User March 28, 2017 11:55 AM  

It's worth noting that Mike's media strategy would involve declaring victory regardless. Clearly an understanding of Ericksonian techniques is an utter necessity if you want to go up against the MSM.

He really did take it on the chin in that interview, but they foolishly let one very solid riposte through. It was so solid I won't be surprised if many of those new viewers stick around it plays as a brilliant gambit.

Blogger VD March 28, 2017 12:00 PM  

It's worth noting that Mike's media strategy would involve declaring victory regardless.

Which, no doubt, is why he cited both a) the numbers and b) the fury of the SJW Left to provide less subjective metrics.

Anonymous Battlefrog March 28, 2017 12:01 PM  

Cernovich definitely knows how to get eyeballs. He tries to get his wife walking in and out of view on Periscope as much as possible. He's constantly holding his baby on camera. He'll do whatever it takes. Periodic high profile media events make sense. Showing up on every cable news show and becoming background noise doesn't.

OpenID dc123884-8321-11e5-a9c5-a3b429e4d26a March 28, 2017 12:01 PM  

In boxing terms, he didn't get knocked out, never fell on his ass and made it through all 15 (I'm old school) rounds, landing one solid punch.

At the end of the day, I'd say it was a unanimous decision in favor of 60 Minutes, CBS, et al.

But Mike did awaken more awareness about himself and having followed him for some time, that was his plan all along. Now he's got a bigger audience.

Blogger Ceasar March 28, 2017 12:03 PM  

Good for Mike. Not sure what 60 minutes was trying to achieve...Everyone (including liberals) thought Hillary looked off/sick, why bring it up to remind everyone again. Plus, anyone who out of curiosity looks up Mike's work will realize 60 minutes assessment of him doesn't match his writing or actions.

Blogger VD March 28, 2017 12:03 PM  

At the end of the day, I'd say it was a unanimous decision in favor of 60 Minutes, CBS, et al.

But that's the point. To win, all Cerno had to do was survive. And he did. He wasn't going in there to win a debate that was stacked against him.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer March 28, 2017 12:06 PM  

Curious if they knew it was a solid strike or if they are so insulated that they thought he would look crazy for questioning the honesty of hildebeasts campaign.

Anonymous User March 28, 2017 12:08 PM  

It pays to collect enough metrics that you can always produce at least a couple supporting your narrative, whatever it is. That's another area where Mike is very good.

Incidentally, the first time I came across the technique was a close variant in stage magic. It's an incredibly compelling effect.

Anonymous Objective Observer March 28, 2017 12:11 PM  

1) He never lost his cool or sounded jittery and nervous.

2) He cold-cocked the interviewer with his Clinton campaign line.

3) They openly admitted that he gets more eyeballs on social media than one of the longest running shows on one of the largest networks.

If someone could help me to understand where he failed or lost ground I'm all ears, but that was like David v. Goliath even with his speech impediment.

Anonymous User March 28, 2017 12:18 PM  

Watching Mike tell the Cernovich Story into existence is very entertaining. He's his own greatest work.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 28, 2017 12:20 PM  

Does anyone under 60 watch it anyway?

Blogger Nationalist Flicka March 28, 2017 12:23 PM  

He cleaned up nice too.

I thoroughly enjoyed this. Mike cleaned his clock and did with an arrogant "we are winning, we are going to win" smile the whole time.

I thought the guy interviewing him was going to wet his pants at certain points.

Anonymous Objective Observer March 28, 2017 12:24 PM  

"Does anyone under 60 watch it anyway?"

The insiders and apparatchiks do and all that matters is that they are clearly concerned about their 'fake news' monster getting out of control.

That's a good thing.

Blogger Some Dude March 28, 2017 12:26 PM  

Well the other way to look at it is what did the media get out of it?

They showcased a 'conspiracy theoriest' for an hour on primetime tv.

Its hilarious.

Reminds me how the whole media had to 'debunk' pizzagate, a 4chan conspiracy theory about 0.5% of the population was remotely aware of.

Blogger Some Dude March 28, 2017 12:28 PM  

NBC paid Chelsea Clinton 30k per minute of her shows to be a reporter. So Greenblatt gets his backshish to the Clintons.

Blogger Page March 28, 2017 12:30 PM  

Vox's last paragraph is why I just laugh when people call him an egotist:

"Would I have gone on 60 Minutes? No. Would I have advised Mike to do so? No. And that is one reason why Mike's recent Periscope has 65k viewers and my most recent one has 838."

Anonymous Jeff March 28, 2017 12:30 PM  

Showing the clip of Sick Hillary collapsing in front of the van was an interesting decision by 60 minutes.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 28, 2017 12:36 PM  

"Fake news" hell the leftards themselves don't believe themselves a major portion of the time. Without the feckless conservatives there to take them seriously few would.

"Do you really believe that?" Now that is a shiv to the soul.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky March 28, 2017 12:40 PM  

I disagree completely to this notion that 60 Minutes was the winner. They got their clock cleaned. Knocked out by Cerno.

The very point of having Mike on was to showcase him as a "Fake News Man". As compared to them. And this happened:

MIKE: How do you know she had pneumonia?
PELLEY: Her campaign told us.
MIKE: And you believe them?

Game. Set. Match.

In that exchange, Mike cut to the heart of what journalism is supposed to be. You don't take the word of any political campaign as gospel, Mr. "Fake News Man" just schooled them in their own profession.

Game over, drop the mic, finished, done, vanquished.

Anonymous Man of the Atom March 28, 2017 12:44 PM  

@23. a deplorable rubberducky

+1

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 28, 2017 12:45 PM  

So to stick with the boxing analogies, this was Rocky I, with Cernovich as Rocky, and Scott Pelley as Apollo Creed.

Blogger J A Baker March 28, 2017 12:50 PM  

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't think this interview was about winning for Mike more than it was about knowing his enemy. Mike's a strategist, and he's moving a few pieces around on the chess board to see how his opponent will react, and if he has to lose a few pawns or take a couple of hits so be it.

In order to really comprehend fully the tactics of the opposition media he had to experience it first hand. For Mike, this was research, this was an experiment; it was a skirmish or sparring session, and I have no doubt that there will be a book forthcoming all about the opposition media and how to beat them at their own game.

Blogger Salt March 28, 2017 12:50 PM  

"60 Minutes trended on Twitter the first time in memory and perhaps ever while also winning the television ratings battle. The Hollywood Reporter reports:
CBS scored an easy win (by both measures) and saw a delayed 60 Minutes shoot up to a 1.7 rating among adults 18–49 and 10.6 million viewers. Not only did that help the series top NBC’s Little Big Shots for the night, it helped facilitate steady episodes of NCIS: Los Angeles (1.2 adults), Madam Secretary (0.8 adults) and Elementary (0.6 adults).
Mike Cernovich appeared on a segment on “fake news,” which drew in a massive audience that would not have otherwise have watched 60 Minutes."

https://medium.com/@Cernovich/60-minutes-wins-the-ratings-battle-with-mike-cernovich-segment-cerno60-2780759011ac

Anonymous deplorable six pan March 28, 2017 12:50 PM  

"fake news monster"

"Golem" is the preferred nomenclature.

Blogger Basil Makedon March 28, 2017 12:51 PM  

@7 You could be right, but as a father I can tell you that very young infants need to be held pretty much constantly.

Back on topic, I tend of agree with VD, no way I would have done 60minutes and I would have advised him not to do it. Cernovich seems to know what he's doing; however, I thought the same of Milo.

Blogger James Dixon March 28, 2017 12:51 PM  

> Vox's last paragraph is why I just laugh when people call him an egotist...

Vox doesn't suffer from false modesty, but he does have a fairly good grasp of his limitations. I believe he tries to keep Harry Callahan's advice from Magnum Force firmly in mind at all times.

Blogger James Dixon March 28, 2017 12:54 PM  

> ... however, I thought the same of Milo.

Everyone has limitations. Milo got hit in one of his understandable blind spots. He'll recover.

Anonymous VFM #6306 March 28, 2017 12:56 PM  

Mike should have given Trump a Nazi salute, and he totally would have won in a knockout, especially if he allowed himself to be slapped by antifa on camera and then rolled his face in cheetos.

Mike is just pulling salvage from the space hulk of old media now. It is laughably easy for him.

Blogger praetorian March 28, 2017 1:00 PM  

Don't try this at home, kids.

I don't instinctively like Cernovich, but once again Vox's judgement proves correct.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 28, 2017 1:05 PM  

Mike did GREAT w/ 60 minutes, let us all be proud of him! It was great to watch the weasel interviewer squirm trying to slip up a smart married family man like Mike and they failed, Mike Cerno totally won.

Blogger James Dixon March 28, 2017 1:06 PM  

> Don't try this at home, kids.

People sometimes forget just how good the folks who make this look easy are. Milo, Mike, and Vox far exceed most people capabilities, and even Vox won't even let the media within shooting range.

Other examples are Rush and Hannity. These people are very good at what they do, and even they can be blindsided on occasion.

Blogger J Van Stry March 28, 2017 1:08 PM  

I have dealt with the media many times in the past. I've hated it every time, and only done it when either forced to, or when the gain outweighed the pain. There is no way I would ever go on a show like 60 minutes, I don't think you could pay me enough.

Even 'friendly' interviews can unexpectedly turn nasty, especially if you're not live and they decide to re-edit the story.

Mike obviously knows what he is doing, and just as obviously has a high degree of mastery in dealing with the media that few have.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 28, 2017 1:13 PM  

This group is 10 steps+ beyond the current oppositional media and oppositional adverse sjws;

I know their games and so does everyone else - we know their games and their smears, it just blows up in the face (60 mins) every time. I haven't watched tv or 60 mins since the 1990's, I or many walked away from all that nullsense to live our lives.

Mike did a great job and again he has the support along with those here to Vox to Stefan to countless other allies.

No one here is afraid of the completely insane Oppositional media. We defund them via NO CABLE or no phones and dont care about them, they are as irrelevant as Soros, Beck and other Evils in media.

East Coast 1/12pm Alex and Mike Cerno talk live! Alex is playing the clips from 60 mins right now. Cerno won! We or I dont trust HRC ever.

Awesome!

Blogger Shimshon March 28, 2017 1:21 PM  

I watched this and I believe Mike more than held his own. There were different responses he could have given to the specific portions they aired (particularly the "sick Hillary" bit). So what. Hindsight and all that. The fact that they showed what they did of him proves that they couldn't make it a pure hit piece with his statements. The best they could do was maintain their assertion of "fake news" throughout. Which Mike countered with his own frame quite well. What Mike said raised enough questions to move the more open-minded among their audience. And even if few, it's a small percentage of a still sizable number of people.

Blogger Cail Corishev March 28, 2017 1:30 PM  

however, I thought the same of Milo.

Exactly. Anyone who thinks this invalidates the "never talk to the media" rule should remember that Milo seemed to handle the media perfectly too -- until he didn't. Maybe Mike will keep schooling them, or maybe one time they'll lay a trap that burns him badly. We'll see.

Blogger Shimshon March 28, 2017 1:41 PM  

@39 Cail, I'm with you. I agree with Vox's blanket statement. And just because Mike did well this time doesn't mean he should make a habit of it. Too much mainstream exposure can backfire. Regarding Milo, has he gone completely stealth? Haven't heard anything about him since the incident.

Anonymous LemonGrass March 28, 2017 1:42 PM  

Scott Adams made a great blog entry about a hit piece on him by bloomberg, it really details how incredibly dishonest fake news is. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/158709087061/some-fake-news-about-me-from-bloomberg

Blogger Nate March 28, 2017 1:45 PM  

I've obviously been skeptical of the decision. but we have to be honest with ourselves about our observations. the reactions of others against 60 minutes.. and yes the Buzzfeed piece, which was clearly written by someone with disdain for the new media and the alt-right proves he came out of it on top.

and there is something more to gain that we maybe didn't consider. The piece may have ended up costing 60 Minutes. It has made them lose credibility and lose face.

I don't think anyone went into this expecting that outcome.

Blogger Nate March 28, 2017 1:46 PM  

Watching the piece... I thought they made cerno look like a moron. But my perception doesn't matter. its the broad perception that matters and it was obviously very different from my own.

Anonymous grey enlightenment March 28, 2017 1:47 PM  

Mike is smart enough to not fall for traps, and if he does he's smart enough to quickly get out of them. Milo faded because he made that comment and did not go a good job saving face.

OpenID aew51183 March 28, 2017 1:50 PM  

Old media knows it's losing so now old media and companion soros front groups are having major corporate lapdogs pressure new media by attempting to no-platform it by targeting advertising:

Current targets: youtube and infowars

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/846651606364016640

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/846754295236247553

Blogger Sheila4g March 28, 2017 1:51 PM  

@30 James Dixon: "Vox doesn't suffer from false modesty, but he does have a fairly good grasp of his limitations."

Precisely. We all have different strengths and weaknesses. Cernovitch may be a better media manipulator/attention getter than Vox, but IMHO Vox is by far the better thinker and writer. Would I prefer that Vox's ethno-nationalist views get greater exposure than Cernovitch's civic nationalist ones? Sure, but at the moment, and at least most of the time, Cernovitch appears more of an ally than an enemy.

I admit I agree with Praetorian(@33) and "don't instinctively like Cernovich," but from all accounts he held his own so in dealing with a dinosaur like 60 Minutes that counts as a win (I grew up watching that show in the 60s and 70s but don't think I've seen it, even by accident, in over 20 years).

Anonymous Amir Larijani March 28, 2017 1:51 PM  

Vox's general admonition is correct. After all, we are not all Mike Cernovich.

We all have to choose our risks with respect to our own tolerance for it.

Who dares wins. Cernovich dared to take on 60 Minutes. He won.

OpenID dc123884-8321-11e5-a9c5-a3b429e4d26a March 28, 2017 1:51 PM  

@25, that's exactly where I was going with it. It's why I chose 15 rounds!

Blogger DavidRohm March 28, 2017 1:56 PM  

This really is becoming a good lesson in effectively using the old media to broadcast that, not only does a legitimate new media exist, but it doesn't give a sh|t what they think. Risky as hell, but if objective was to survive and not become roadkill, Mike was successful.

I'm more thankful with every passing day that the Mikes, Voxs, Stephans, and Milos are out there. If I'm not freakin' learning something new every day, I'm getting validation of what I know in my gut is right, good, truthful, and noble.

Blogger The Rev March 28, 2017 1:57 PM  

Hats off to Mike. It doesn't take guts for an idiot to go into the lion's den. It's when you know what you're getting into - and Mike knew what he was getting into.

Anonymous Man of the Atom March 28, 2017 1:59 PM  

aew51183 wrote:Old media knows it's losing so now old media and companion soros front groups are having major corporate lapdogs pressure new media by attempting to no-platform it by targeting advertising:

Current targets: youtube and infowars


Which is why Vox is hammering us on building our own platforms.

Anonymous Man of the Atom March 28, 2017 2:09 PM  

That Buzzfeed piece tries to give Old Media pointers for "next time".

Sad new-ish Leftist news organization trying to guide old, blind, stupid Leftist news organization by acknowledging that both are outmatched by Alt-Right News.

Mike did fine against CBS, and Buzzfeed volunteered to be his bitch.

Not a bad day's work.

Blogger Phat Repat March 28, 2017 2:26 PM  

The 60 Minutes decision to interview Cernovich kinda reminds me of the decision by Ted Cruz to walk across the street to confront a Trump supporter. That ended in self-immolation, just as this will (or has) for 60 Minutes. Savvy...

Blogger slarrow March 28, 2017 2:27 PM  

This is why I said the other night that Mike follows the conflict=attention=influence model. He knew it would be a fight with 60 Minute, and he prepared accordingly. He did a couple of things there: he held his own and made it fun for his fans (which I saw some here discounting that, forgetting the power of winning and positive momentum), and his traffic metrics coupled with the ratings boost demonstrated just how much more powerful he is on social media than the old media is.

Watch the Overtime segment. Those people really, really wanted him to look bad, but he didn't. They're shook. Mike pulled a power play on them, and they didn't like the results. It reminds me of when people try to interview Vox. Scott Adams did the same thing exposing the fake news process. That didn't make sense to several folks, either, but it was serious enough to make the reporter delete her Twitter account.

As I said then, this was a big win for Mike. It wouldn't have worked for Vox or anyone else, really. That's okay--he's working off a different model of direct conflict rather than subversion or replacement. But it's still cool when allies win.

Anonymous Moonbear March 28, 2017 2:29 PM  

We're talking about (((the tribe))) here, they always have a long game in mind.
I haven't figured out what their angle is yet but it's a fair bet to assume they have one, never underestimate them.

Anonymous Daniel H March 28, 2017 2:49 PM  

It will be good if Sean Hannity hears about your blog-site. He could learn something, but first he will have to make a determined effort to leave cuckistan.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper March 28, 2017 3:04 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Does anyone under 60 watch it anyway?

hell anyone under seventy.

A they did last week though when MC was on. Has to be a first.

Blogger James Dixon March 28, 2017 3:05 PM  

> It will be good if Sean Hannity hears about your blog-site.

Sean has already interviewed Vox (concerning "The Return of the Great Depression"). It's a safe beet he knows about the blog.

Blogger lowercaseb March 28, 2017 3:09 PM  

slarrow wrote:Mike pulled a power play on them, and they didn't like the results. It reminds me of when people try to interview Vox. Scott Adams did the same thing exposing the fake news process. That didn't make sense to several folks, either, but it was serious enough to make the reporter delete her Twitter account.

I always looked at the MSM as a big pit of vipers and rattlers. Vox's admonishment makes perfect sense. I have no business mucking around in there and even if I did I sure as hell don't know anything about them. Best to keep far away.

Cerno is a fellow who wants to be a hepatologist. His job is going to require handling the snakes, so he takes precautions against being bitten and only handles them when necessary.

Adams, God bless his crazy ass, is a cross between a snake handler and Steve Irwin. He's doing it because it's fun to him and to educate. He knows his subject matter but he's gonna get bitten one of these days.

However, I can't help but admire his crazy joy while doing it...so I'll watch his show.

So both handle snakes, but Cernovich doesn't stick his thumb in the butt of the snake to see what happens when he pisses it off.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 28, 2017 3:34 PM  

I'd love to pick Cernovich's brain on this. He's obviously working with a good model in his head and it deserves a proper Autiste treatment.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 28, 2017 3:45 PM  

@41 Nate

The piece may have ended up costing 60 Minutes. It has made them lose credibility and lose face.
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In a larger scheme of things, most of the lsm is focusing on this narrative about Russians. Everybody except paid trolls is sick of hearing about it.

And then MC goes on there in a supposed fake news segment and asks the clown if he believes what he got from the Clinton campaign.

It's chipping away at whatever credibility they may have left.

I haven't looked around yet to see anybody tying that to the wikileaks emails proving collusion with media personalities.

Blogger Sam Spade March 28, 2017 4:18 PM  

Your streamings are great, I appreciate the field work Mike does, I'd wish we have someone like him in Spain,but I prefer the depth of your work or Stefan's.

Blogger Dire Badger March 28, 2017 4:54 PM  

What gets me is that those were the worst possible clips they could find of mike. Through the whole interview.

That means he must have held his frame and head-smashed Scott throughout the ENTIRE interview. No pauses to think (or they would have edited those in to make him look stupid), virtually zero missteps for over an hour.

I would have LOVED to have seen the full interview. even Scott's 'contemplative' shots made him look confused and ready to cry.

Anonymous Precious March 28, 2017 5:02 PM  

Odd...Samuree hasn't shown up yet to comment on this latest Cernovich post. I hope he is ok and didn't suffer a seizure when looking at Cernovich's Periscope numbers.

Blogger Jaycephus March 28, 2017 5:28 PM  

The advice of not going onto MSM like 60 Minutes is sound, but that doesn't mean practiced experts should never do so. So it is really irritating how small-minded people somehow think Chernovich is "hypocritical" for going on 60 Minutes.
Assuming breaking a block of ice with your head is a good idea for anyone, you certainly don't want to try it without lots of practice and the skill-set to make it possible. You also might want to make sure the ice-block isn't rigged by the event-holder to be unbreakable. And there needs to be a reason or value that makes the risk worthwhile.

Chernovich has been practicing the skill-set required, along with specific research and a great deal of self-training leading up to the interview. He didn't go in without knowing the enemy AND knowing himself, including doing opposition-research on himself. He also had the attitude that this was him going in to INTERVIEW the enemy, which is what he did. He also agreed to a 60 Minutes interview, not a Daily Show or a Bill Maher show with two or three other antagonists ganging up on him. I know of Daily Show interviews that recorded over FOUR hours of video in order to construct a chopped-up, misleading presentation of only a few minutes. The choice of 60 Minutes was also part of the calculation. Finally, Chernovich had something to gain that made it worth it. Many people who agree to go on these shows don't necessarily have enough to gain to make it worthwhile. Candidate Trump might be one who would benefit from a 60 Minutes interview. President Trump probably would not, at this point, even if he dominated. Milo did well in one-on-one interviews, even with him telling the MSM how to defeat him. But going on a show where he's going to be ganged up on by lying SJWs was stupid, and not just in hindsight.

There was more than one knockout punch thrown, and the idea that 60 Minutes somehow won on points is a big stretch, IMO. Just maintaining helps Chernovich, since he is still nowhere near a household name. But he did more than just 'maintain.' Besides the Hillary-sickness thing, I particularly liked the part where Pelley maintains that finding the truth is 'easy,' and that all it is is 'verifying facts.' That is a win for Chernovich, not the MSM.

Anonymous MongoJimmy March 28, 2017 6:04 PM  

MC is some kind of Zen master. I am going to read his book now.

Blogger SteelPalm March 28, 2017 8:02 PM  

Amusingly, Mike's success bolsters the point that one shouldn't grant interviews to fake news media.

Cernovich prepared beautifully, from the suit to the posture to the answers themselves. His voice was clear and confident throughout. He sidestepped the many landmines 60 Minutes set for him, and even challenged Pelley back, to which the latter could only stutter and hastily change the subject.

And he did this for 45 minutes straight, committing no errors in the process.

And even after all that, they edited it down to 2 minutes where Mike effectively defends himself, but omitted all of his most successful moments and 95% of the interview.

Had Mike made even a single blunder, the interview would have looked very bad and been a victory for Pelley and the fake news media.

Congratulations again to Mike for noting a rare set of circumstances, preparing perfectly for them, and succeeding. However, it's a situation the rest of us are better off avoiding.

Blogger Vikki Wilson March 28, 2017 8:31 PM  

But Vox, you have a far higher *quality* of viewers.

A caller mentioned yourself and Infogalactic in one of Mike's periscopes today.

Blogger Koanic March 28, 2017 9:25 PM  

This falls under the previously established "Milo freak exception" to "Don't talk to the media".

Blogger Scott Birch March 28, 2017 10:51 PM  

Meh. The MSM do a/b testing too. And Cerno is a civic nationalist. A Cerno win isn't necessarily an alt-right win.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 29, 2017 6:05 AM  

I'm not willing to accept that an overnight order-of-magnitude increase in web site visitations is a sign of success of the "60 Minutes" appearance, except in accordance to the old adage that any publicity is good publicity. I haven't watched an episode of "60 Minutes" since long before the turn of the century, so I narcissistically assume most of the remaining viewers are not too intelligent. Thus, most of the increase in Mike's web traffic could be due to untermenschen checking out someone they think to be a doofus.

I thought Mike looked bad in his segment, but CBS had the advantage of editing the presentation to bias it in support of their viewpoint, which is that Mike is a doofus. Molyneux's podcast on the topic, however, demonstrates that Mike made some great points. Whether most viewers are able to see those points behind the biased editing, I don't know -- my first impression missed what Stefan caught.

Whether Mike's traffic remains elevated or not will help determine if his "60 Minutes" appearance was a success. Regardless, the YouTube clip and Molyneux's points can be put to use to persuade those who are persuadable that the appearance was a net positive for Mike and the Right. Molyneux seems to believe Cernovich's greatest coup was pointing out that the Right and Left have different and incompatible definitions of "truth." That should be fertile ground for a meme campaign.

Blogger Scott Birch March 29, 2017 7:08 AM  

What interested me was that the brief questioning of Scott's trust in the Hillary campaign people was not edited out. Why?

Blogger Dire Badger March 29, 2017 7:52 AM  

Mike may be a civic nationalist, but at this point, every shift of the overton window to the right is welcomed.
As long as he doesn't start campaigning for 'deal breakers' like homosexual privilege, Open borders, and white abortion, He is an enemy of our enemy, if not an ally.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 29, 2017 8:21 AM  

Scott Birch wrote @71:
"What interested me was that the brief questioning of Scott's trust in the Hillary campaign people was not edited out. Why?"

Speculation:

1. They had to include something (I assume the Cernovich interview was far longer than the short clips used).

2. They liked the smug look of confidence Pelley had.

3. They honestly see no problem in blindly accepting Clinton et al's word on any topic.

Blogger Olivia Smith March 29, 2017 10:33 AM  

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Anonymous VFM #6306 March 29, 2017 10:38 AM  

Game. [Cerno tells people what is going to happen]
Set. [Cerno reviews his victory conditions.]

Match.
[Cerno brings 60 Minutes greatest ratings in a decade.]

The only thing the fake news hasn't called him yet is "Boss."

Blogger Scott Birch March 29, 2017 6:27 PM  

They are _that_ out of touch. Fascinating.

Blogger Vanished friend April 03, 2017 7:08 PM  

Interesting news re: Cernovich...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1766738

I cannot wait to begin making penance (for utterly losing my mind) by collecting torches/pitchforks, helping to construct crucifixes, whatever will be needed when America's way-less-peaceful version of Belgium's White March is upon us.

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