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Thursday, March 23, 2017

Feckless surrender talk

It's always infuriating how politicians posture and pontificate after a terror attack as if doing absolutely nothing and blathering about nonexistent unity somehow constitutes brave leadership:
The location of this attack was no accident. The terrorist chose to strike at the heart of our capital city where people of all nationalities, religions and cultures come together to celebrate the values of liberty, democracy and freedom of speech.

These streets of Westminster, home to the world's oldest parliament are ingrained with a spirit of freedom that echoes in some of the furthest corners of the globe. And the values our Parliament represents - democracy, freedom, human rights, the rule of law, command the admiration and respect of free people everywhere.

That is why it is a target for those who reject those values. Let me make it clear today, as I have had cause to do before, any attempt to defeat our values through violence and terror is doomed to failure.'

We will come together as normal and Londoners and others from around the world who have come here to visit this great city will get up and go about their day as normal.

We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror and never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart.
The people of England - the actual English people of England - need to tell that woman: "there  is no forward and there is no us."

There is only one civilized solution and it is a straightforward, five-word solution: they have to go back.

It's not the only solution, of course. But no one who is sane or civilized wants to have to resort to the other solution, although history makes it perfectly clear that they will certainly do so if it proves to be necessary.

Katie Hopkins's response, although defeatist, is considerably more sane:
This place is just like Sweden. Terrified of admitting the truth about the threat we face, about the horrors committed by the migrants we failed to deter — because to admit that we are sinking, and fast, would be to admit that everything the liberals believe is wrong.

That multiculturalism has not worked. That it is one big fat failure and one big fat lie.

President Erdogan of Turkey said there is a war being waged between the crescent and the cross. But he is wrong. Because the cross is not strong. We are down on bended knee, a doormat to be trodden on, a joke only funny to those that wish us harm.

The war is between London and the rest of the country. Between the liberals and the right-minded. Between those who think it is more important to tip-toe around the cultures of those who choose to join us, rather than defend our own culture.

How many more times?

And how many more attacks must pass before we acknowledge these are no longer the acts of ‘extremists’? That there is no safe badge with which to hold these people at arm’s length, in the way the liberals casually use the term 'far-right' for anyone who has National pride.

These events are no longer extreme. They are commonplace. Every day occurrences.

These people are no longer extremists. They are simply more devout. More true to their beliefs. Beliefs which will be supported endlessly across our state broadcaster for the next few months until we buy into the narrative that one religion is not to blame.
Imagine if the British had fought WWII this way. The Swastika would still be flying over Westminster. You don't win a war by not fighting it. You don't save your nation by welcoming refugees, migrants, and invaders. You don't survive by electing immigrants as your leaders.

Reconquista 2.0 or Sharia. That is the choice facing the West.

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108 Comments:

Anonymous Alice De Goon March 23, 2017 5:34 AM  

War is inevitable. The people of England have rejected their identity as Christians and Englishmen, and now think of themselves as citizens of a nebulous global entity. They've tied their egos to this vision of an achievable earthly utopia and will rather sacrifice their loved ones, social capital, and all of the legacy gifted to them by their forebears rather than give it up.

I don't doubt that many Englishmen will wake up and drive the foreigner from their shores, but will they also evict the Bolsheviks who invited them to their land in the first place?

Blogger Luke (alias "Lines With Chrome") March 23, 2017 5:38 AM  

Remember when the British LOVED the Luftwaffe out of English skies?

Yeah. Me neither.

Anonymous MawBTS March 23, 2017 5:43 AM  

Remember when the British LOVED the Luftwaffe out of English skies?

"(...) of all humans the English are in this respect the most deplorable milksops. They are creatures of that miserable sort who loudly proclaim that torture is too good for their enemies and then give tea and cigarettes to the first wounded German pilot who turns up at the back door." - CS Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

Anonymous Opus March 23, 2017 5:51 AM  

Whilst Prime Minister May's words - as I read them in today's papers - disgusted me, the real irony so it struck me, was: that yesterday Martin McGuiness the IRA's number 2 died and frankly to some extent he wrecked my life with the fear of Irish terrorism through the seventies eighties and nineties - and sometime I was close to being blown up as in Guildford where I was a student in 1974, and used to study in the library adjacent to the two pubs that were blown up - was being lauded by men such as former Prime Minister Blair. Politicians always cave in no matter their rhetoric to terrorism and I have little doubt that Muslim's in England will have taken notice.

Anonymous james@wpc March 23, 2017 5:53 AM  

The purpose of the posturing from the politicians is to flood the public with estrogen to stop the testosterone from rising.

This way everyone is still sitting down and puckered up for the next sucker punch.

Keep repeating this process and you induce "learned helplessness" which will allow the outrages to escalate.

OpenID paworldandtimes March 23, 2017 5:57 AM  

We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror and never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart.

Count me in on the side of hate.

PA

Anonymous John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project March 23, 2017 5:59 AM  

"The terrorist chose to strike at the heart of our capital city where people of all nationalities, religions and cultures come together to celebrate the values of liberty, democracy and freedom of speech."

People of all nationalities, religions, and cultures have come together in London because mendacious Masons have invited them to partake of welfare gold chains, house music beats, and the promise of wh*te p*ssy.

"These streets of Westminster, home to the world's oldest parliament are ingrained with a spirit of freedom that echoes in some of the furthest corners of the globe."

How bout we make that freedom ring in the broken homes of Roterham?

Blogger Lovekraft March 23, 2017 5:59 AM  

These are mostly baby boomers who grew up in the drug-addles, Leary-inspired 60s. I watched them smugly mock anything western, white and conservative, while ignoring the blatant transgressions of the left.

Then there are their progeny who, IMO, didn't want their children waiting tables, so they expanded gov't for pink collar jobs, and imported boatloads of DiversityGlobal.

Little to no consideration of 'the little guy.' I guess we're just supposed to lay back and watch our culture become chocolate-ized.

Blogger Lovekraft March 23, 2017 6:02 AM  

Keep thinking of Anonymous Conservatives r/K selective theory and how enough attacks on the amygdalas of the rabbits will make them desire the alt-right in order to stop the pain they feel.

Am trying to unwrap this because it sounds like something a mohammedan would say: we'll keep attacking you until you give up.

To incorporate Christian values here requires us to show how keeping the marxists on edge and the defensive would be an act of generosity and compassion (we do this to prevent further atrocity).

Blogger SteelPalm March 23, 2017 6:04 AM  

Damn, Theresa May waited all the way until the second sentence to implicitly include Muslims as part of the British people and the civilization they built, as opposed to part of the jihadis who perpetrated this.

So Muslims are included among the friends/allies and have nothing whatsoever to do with the enemy.

Combined with May uttering some of the most blatant, nakedly globalist, multicultural, Muslim-sympathizing rhetoric I've ever heard (worse than Merkel in word, if not, so far, in deed), how long until the British can rid themselves of this treasonous harpy?

Anonymous Henry Havelock March 23, 2017 6:07 AM  

@1

Hi Alice, thanks for condemning all the people of England in such ignorant terms. If you'd ever visited this country you'd realise the foolishness of your words.

What is ignored here is that there is a fight back under way. It has been going on quietly since Lee Rigby was killed. Arson attacks on mosques, murders of Muslims in the street. You have to read the local press to find out that it's happening but it is definitely happening. And it's what the establishment fears the most.

The mood here is not quite ready to roll over and die.

Anonymous Henry Havelock March 23, 2017 6:11 AM  

@10

The next General Election has to be called by 2020. It'll be difficult to remove her. The Conservative Party has an arcane process for choosing its next leader that is largely in the hands of a group of grandees called the '1922 Committee'. Given the absolute state of the opposition - the Labour Party is rapidly escaping into orbit and UKIP has been compromised by the state security apparatus - the chances of a Tory loss are slim.

But anything can happen. May is not popular with her backbenchers and her relationship with the Chancellor of the Exchequer is fraying. She's always been a rank incompetent and is not up to the office of PM. Let's see.

Blogger Doug Cranmer March 23, 2017 6:12 AM  

We've got the same nonsense here in Canada. Only the Eastern Europeans seem to really know what's going on and are not afraid to say it out loud.

Blogger Jonathan Wales March 23, 2017 6:14 AM  

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Blogger Jonathan Wales March 23, 2017 6:14 AM  

Londoners voted remain in the EU referendum as they love immigrants and the cheap Labour they bring, then are amazed at an attack. SJW's already mentioning 'foreign policy' as a cause. Really

Anonymous Phil Christensen March 23, 2017 6:18 AM  

"...people of all nationalities, religions and cultures come together to celebrate the values of liberty, democracy and freedom of speech."

Dead wrong here. These people of all nationalities, religions and cultures most certainly DO NOT celebrate liberty. If on 5% of particular demographic is radicalized, then it takes 80% of the rest of that demographic to shelter them. In order for these operations to continue, virtually the entire "community" has to look either look the other way or provide direct support.
manningthewall.com

Anonymous Eric the Red March 23, 2017 6:25 AM  

I have reluctantly come to believe that leftism is not simply a mental disorder, but that it is indicative of essential genetic differences. Some of this has already been described with 'r' and 'k' selection behaviors. However, there is much more to it, including an inability to understand at a visceral level any non-materiality aka spirituality, a sociopathic willingness to sacrifice others, pathological to the point of self-destructive altruism, a penchant for egalitarianism, etc.

To put it bluntly, leftists are a different race, with different genetic markers that in time will be uncovered, but for now are readily sensed by leftists themselves (there have been science fiction movies dedicated to just such a theme). That is why leftists are so quick to scream “racist”, because they are subconsciously detecting us a a different race from themselves, and therefore trying to cull us from the herd. The conclusion here is that we have truly been in a race war all along, not necessarily with blacks which has been a sideshow, but most importantly with other whites who as leftists are a genetically distinct race.

OpenID randkoch March 23, 2017 6:36 AM  

Saw a leftie tweet about the attack that illustrates the problem:

Claire Nelson‏
@clairenelson
If you have to know a terrorist's ethnicity & religion before you can decide how you feel about their violence, you are part of the problem.
https://twitter.com/clairenelson/status/844615726505902083

Unfortunately, I can't see it with this account anymore. She blocked me after I retweeted.

Blogger Some Dude March 23, 2017 6:45 AM  

"Goyim! We must stand united. All the sheep must lead tail to head to the slaughterhouse of Abraham's altar! This hatred of The Other is not who we are. Do you know how hard it is to run a ponzi schme when people filter by race? Or to bribe a politician? There is no such thing as race goyim! Liquidiate your nations. Bow to our will! The arabs are angry at our puppet gentile soldiers. Let them live in hatred! Diversity doesn't apply to The Other. Global government is for everyone's good. heh heh (rubs hands)" - Mainstream Media.

Blogger Apotheosis Magazine March 23, 2017 6:54 AM  

Terrorism is only the public relations face of the destruction that multiculturalism commits

Blogger szopen March 23, 2017 6:59 AM  

Here's the problem: the collapse may last incredibly long. From the very beginning it was inevitable that Soviet empire would fall. It caused suffering, it caused poverty, it was based on lies. Yet it lasted for six decades. In my own country by 1980 it was clear even to the most hardcore communists in charge that the system have to be changed. Yet it took another decade until we had first (semi-)free elections.

The societies and states may last for decades and even centuries, with elites being shielded from the masses. And I do not mean terrorist threat; terrorist attacks are just visible symptoms of the problem, but situation would be the same even without them. Even the crime is just one part of the problem. The deteriorating politics, limitations to everyday freedoms, rising corruptions, beaureaucracy (I hate that word) being more and more inefficient - all that creeping on people year by year, until they won't even believe that it was once when people could speak freely their minds or got something done without bribes.

Without the external push it could last for centuries. In my own country it was clear that the state was inefficient, rotten and ripe for conquest in 1700 already, maybe even in 1650s; yet it lasted almost a century before it actually collapsed, and only because of external invasion. WHen it was clear that Spain's empire is just a shadow, unable to fight a real war, backward and poor? And when it actually collapsed?

Yeah, you say "migrant crisis" is an external push. It's not enough. It's external small pressure.

I am quite sure in our lifetime there will be moment when we will see at 2017 and we will cry, thinking "how we could think 2017 was bad".

Yea, I am pessimist. Unless Le Pen will win, unless Merkel will go in flames, unless Sweden will be recovered, I will stay pessimist.

Blogger Duke Norfolk March 23, 2017 7:02 AM  

Apotheosis Magazine wrote:Terrorism is only the public relations face of the destruction that multiculturalism commits

Exactly. And we still have the civic nationalists, AKA cucks, insisting that if we just vet them well enough they'll be wonderful productive new Americans. Disgusting.

And that goes for illegal vs. legal immigrants as well. God I wish these people would pull their heads out of their asses.

Blogger MrPaules March 23, 2017 7:07 AM  

I traveled the world as a young man taking with me my egalitarian notions that all men must be treated with dignity and respect regardless of station. It took me awhile to understand that my ideas were not universally held by all people and all cultures. Seeing my goodwill turned against me by inferior people for short term gain made me cynical and resentful. There is no characteristic of Islam more loathsome than taqiyya, no idea more antithetical to Anglo notions of fair play and righteousness than the belief that it is honorable to lie to an infidel. Islam is incompatible to civilization in the extreme, and nothing will change this.

Anonymous Rocklea March 23, 2017 7:14 AM  

Australian Senator Pauline Hanson's response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg8eJ-Zo2vY
#Pray4MuslimBan

Anonymous the management March 23, 2017 7:14 AM  

The cognitive dissonance between the left's diversity cult preaching and reality keeps increasing.

Should be interesting to see when the momentum shifts for good, and what forms that will take.

Blogger David Power March 23, 2017 7:15 AM  

It's always infuriating how politicians posture and pontificate after a terror attack as if doing absolutely nothing and blathering about nonexistent unity somehow constitutes brave leadership:

Five will get you ten, that before this week is out, parliament square will witness a candle lit vigil with groups of Liberal nuts chanting 'Diversity is our strength and Islam is a religion of peace".

Which reminds me... A few months ago parliament square had been taken over by the 'No Borders' SJWs, who had very neatly laid out lines of hundreds of life jackets in an attempt to guilt us Londoners into taking in more 'refugees'.

Instead of walking around the monstrosity, I chose to walk straight across it as though it wasn't there, carelessly displacing a few life jackets on my way.

As I reached the other side, several upset SJWs confronted me, saying "hey, that's a protest and you shouldn't be walking over them".

To which I replied "If you didn't want people walking over them, you should have put a border around it".

The look on their dumb faces as my word sunk in was exquisite.

Sure hope no one brings any fire crackers to that vigil.

Anonymous 12345 March 23, 2017 7:25 AM  

In the past two years in England more than 3,500 people have lost their lives to this epidemic of death and carnage. It's got to stop and it's time for England's leaders to take steps.

Somehow the 3,500+ deaths that have resulted from auto accidents in that great country must be brought down. Success in this war against autos would be seeing no more killed in autos than have been killed by Islamic terrorist attacks in the country over the past seven years: 7

Anonymous basementhomebrewer March 23, 2017 7:26 AM  

MrPaules wrote:I traveled the world as a young man taking with me my egalitarian notions that all men must be treated with dignity and respect regardless of station. It took me awhile to understand that my ideas were not universally held by all people and all cultures. Seeing my goodwill turned against me by inferior people for short term gain made me cynical and resentful. There is no characteristic of Islam more loathsome than taqiyya, no idea more antithetical to Anglo notions of fair play and righteousness than the belief that it is honorable to lie to an infidel. Islam is incompatible to civilization in the extreme, and nothing will change this.

It was one of the greatest mistakes of the West to not crush the Muslims in the 19th century when their people's had both the political will and the power to do so. Instead varying western powers decided to play footsie with the Ottoman's in order to 1 up their western adversaries. A war against Islam would have possibly even avoided WWI by uniting the west against a weak but cancerous foe.

Now, we still have the power to crush Islam but we have no where near the political will to do so.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 7:40 AM  

It's too late, they will not go back, not most of them anyway. Option 2 has already been chosen at this point.
Even if option 1 was attempted you would end up with massive country wide terrorism where ever in the west you tried option 1.
No one really wishes for it but option 2 has been chosen whether we like it or not.

Blogger szopen March 23, 2017 7:46 AM  

12345 wrote:In the past two years in England more than 3,500 people have lost their lives to this epidemic of death and carnage. It's got to stop and it's time for England's leaders to take steps.

Somehow the 3,500+ deaths that have resulted from auto accidents in that great country must be brought down. Success in this war against autos would be seeing no more killed in autos than have been killed by Islamic terrorist attacks in the country over the past seven years: 7

Islamic terrorism is just a symptom. WHy don't you count homicides committed by immigrants coming to UK? Since about 1/5 of the homicides is committed by immigrants, it should be about 100 deaths annually at least.

Moreover, google tells me that number of death-related accidents is 1700. Government seems to be keen at reducing the number of accidents and already reduced it by half within last two decades.

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 7:49 AM  

12345 is a troll and I know...don't touch the poop.

But I do wonder just how many of those vehicle accidents he is so concerned about involved Muslims or other aliens?

They have to go back.

Blogger Dane Prywatne March 23, 2017 7:51 AM  

It is now the time in west when hard times are ready to build strong men ... unfortunately that process hurts.

So - get to work.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 23, 2017 7:54 AM  

Sadly from my point of view, this is all governed by Social Mood, and Social Mood is endogenously patterned; as such, the transition period in which we appear to be produces enough tolerance to allow political inertia from the old We Are The World narrative to remain in place.

People collectively herding in manic trust and optimism cannot see danger no matter how existential the threat.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 7:55 AM  

From a purely hypothetical war game scenario, the Mohammedans being instigated by flooding social media with comical images of Mohamed and constant critical critique and ridicule, is probably the more effective way of speeding things up.

If the Mohammedans truly have such poor self control you would expect a spike in violence which hardens the whites against them.

A strategic social media program could be very effective.

The animals we are dealing with....

http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/03/more-on-the-halal-murder-in-kiel/

Once again a man has killed his wife on the open street. The bloody deed is shocking and deeply saddening. The five-year-old son apparently had to watch as his mother’s throat was cut

Blogger Phillip George March 23, 2017 7:57 AM  

Vox, the best argument I know for the existence of God is that all the alternatives are impossible.
Which God is the only question that can survive scrutiny.
Allah or YHVH.

Muhammad or Jesus. They mutually exclude.

Pick a side. Pick a weapon. Adopt a strategy. Get counseled on logistics.

Muhammad was wrong. You can't multic cultivate with wrong.

Blogger MrPaules March 23, 2017 7:57 AM  

28.

"It was one of the greatest mistakes of the West to not crush the Muslims in the 19th century when their people's had both the political will and the power to do so. Instead varying western powers decided to play footsie with the Ottoman's in order to 1 up their western adversaries. A war against Islam would have possibly even avoided WWI by uniting the west against a weak but cancerous foe."

The Ottomans were in an unalterable state of decline by 1914. The Turks built an empire based looting their neighbors - always a short term proposition. The proper response to Islam is to leave the Muslim world alone, to allow its people to muck about in their native squalor. Muslims are highly fatalistic and easily intimidated by force. They respect nothing so much as a boot on the neck. Let their strong men and tribal leaders rule them as they see fit . . . and this only in their native homelands without interference.

Blogger Duke Norfolk March 23, 2017 7:57 AM  

David Power wrote:To which I replied "If you didn't want people walking over them, you should have put a border around it".


Oh that was brilliant. Top kek indeed.

Blogger Fred March 23, 2017 7:59 AM  

until we buy into the narrative that one religion is not to blame.

Actually it is Islam that is the root cause of terror, called for and sponsored by the Koran itself. Dont believe those that say Islam is a religion of peace. Quran (2:191-193)!

Deportation of all Muslims that do not swear allegiance to the locality where they are on pain of prison without trial will ferret out the radicals, who would never sign such pledge.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 8:00 AM  

DC

As I just posted that mood can be manipulated if you are willing to be coldly calculating. I know MIT has worked on building models for this, and really, the us army insurgency and counter insurgency manuals are based on this principke, hence the heavy physiological warfare aspect.

Anonymous 12345 March 23, 2017 8:03 AM  

"But I do wonder just how many of those vehicle accidents he is so concerned about involved Muslims or other aliens?"

They are overwhelmingly Welsh.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 8:03 AM  

Deportation of all Muslims that do not swear allegiance to the locality where they are on pain of prison without trial will ferret out the radicals, who would never sign such pledge

No. It's not possible for a Muslim to make such an oath. To make that oath is to give up islam, hence the ultimatum must be convert, leave or else....

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 8:04 AM  

12345, you didn't answer my question.

Blogger William Meisheid March 23, 2017 8:05 AM  

SJW's already mentioning 'foreign policy' as a cause. Really

Yes, if you believe any foreign policy that is not capitulation to Islam's advance is a cause, you are on the money. Surrender is the only foreign policy that will not be a cause. How's that for the stark reality.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 8:05 AM  

Note, the us army insurgency and counter insurgency manuals are freely available online, educate yourself.

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 8:06 AM  

@41 Grayman and oath is of no meaning to a Muslim. They are allowed to lie in furtherance of Islam.

Anonymous 12345 March 23, 2017 8:10 AM  

@shimshon 2.7%

Blogger Lazarus March 23, 2017 8:16 AM  

Henry Havelock wrote:What is ignored here is that there is a fight back under way. It has been going on quietly since Lee Rigby was killed. Arson attacks on mosques, murders of Muslims in the street. You have to read the local press to find out that it's happening but it is definitely happening.


It would be more believable with some evidence provided. Even small papers have internet links.

Blogger William Meisheid March 23, 2017 8:17 AM  

Taqiyya, which is lying to advance Islam is good and SJWAL, which is lying to advance social justice is good, is maybe the reason they SJWs support Islamists...they are bound together by fundamental tactics.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 8:24 AM  

Yes they are, but what the SJWS fail to recognize is that the Mohammedans will promptly turn on them, slaughtering the cucks, trans, gays, and using the SJW women and young boys as toys for sexual gratification, as soon as Muslims gain dominance
It's a suicidal pact.

Anonymous Godfrey March 23, 2017 8:26 AM  

@49
You don't get it. The Left is a suicide cult. They want to die.

Anonymous Godfrey March 23, 2017 8:34 AM  

The crony wealth Globalist elite are using immigrants as shock troops against native populations.

The plan is corporate feudalism and massive population reduction. The middleclass in the West is an obstacle to the plan. So it's targeted for destruction. The moronic zombie Left is just a tool.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 23, 2017 8:36 AM  

Lovekraft wrote:To incorporate Christian values here requires us to show how keeping the marxists on edge and the defensive would be an act of generosity and compassion (we do this to prevent further atrocity).

Perhaps Pope Uban's sermons could give us hints on how to proceed?

Grayman wrote:No one really wishes for it but option 2 has been chosen whether we like it or not.

OK. Let's get on with it, then. Crusades will be so much more convenient now that the infidel is among us.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 23, 2017 8:44 AM  

Grayman wrote:From a purely hypothetical war game scenario, the Mohammedans being instigated by flooding social media with comical images of Mohamed and constant critical critique and ridicule, is probably the more effective way of speeding things up.

If we want the frogs to jump out of the cookpot, we mustn't let it heat slowly.

On topic, sort of, it's starting to look as if the Brits have jumped out of the EU pot into the mohammedan fire. The first nine crusades were aimed at retaking the Holy Land. The Tenth Crusade will have to start by retaking our lands.

By the way, that was supposed to be Pope Urban in my earlier post, not the pope the coffee brand was named after. 1095 and all that.

Blogger GAHCindy March 23, 2017 8:49 AM  

William Meisheid wrote:Taqiyya, which is lying to advance Islam is good and SJWAL, which is lying to advance social justice is good, is maybe the reason they SJWs support Islamists...they are bound together by fundamental tactics.

And by their god, the Father of Lies.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 23, 2017 8:52 AM  

@49 Grayman

Considering Leftists almost always slaughter their most ardent supporters at the first opportunity, sadly we know the SJWs won't realize the problem until they're actually dead.

I remember being fairly young and wondering why homosexuals were always such ardent Leftists. Anyone with appreciation for history tells you that one of the early things the Left would do with complete power is hang the gays from lampposts. Dyscivic Religion does nasty things to people.

So, yes, the SJW will be complaining that they, clearly, weren't accommodating enough as they're killed in the streets.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 23, 2017 9:01 AM  

@33 dc.sunsets

Social Mood can be shifted, as the Soviet Intelligence services showed they were capable of doing in the West. Groundwork still needs to be laid for further stages before the Mood shift is actually needed. A sudden shift would allow for "control" to be grabbed by the Globalists.

A lot of parallel actions are going to be needed and soon.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 23, 2017 9:09 AM  

Holmes had the better editorial.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer March 23, 2017 9:11 AM  

MrPaules wrote:28.

"It was one of the greatest mistakes of the West to not crush the Muslims in the 19th century when their people's had both the political will and the power to do so. Instead varying western powers decided to play footsie with the Ottoman's in order to 1 up their western adversaries. A war against Islam would have possibly even avoided WWI by uniting the west against a weak but cancerous foe."

The Ottomans were in an unalterable state of decline by 1914. The Turks built an empire based looting their neighbors - always a short term proposition. The proper response to Islam is to leave the Muslim world alone, to allow its people to muck about in their native squalor. Muslims are highly fatalistic and easily intimidated by force. They respect nothing so much as a boot on the neck. Let their strong men and tribal leaders rule them as they see fit . . . and this only in their native homelands without interference.


Constantinople is not their native homeland.

Blogger Jonathan Wales March 23, 2017 9:12 AM  

A number of mainstream media outlets (mainly leftists) changed front pages/images 'in case people are upset'. The same ones who a few years ago printed/showed pictures of a dead Syrian boy on a beach in all it's glory, to stir up public emotions and feed the narrative of 'let all the refugees in'. Now won't print/broadcast victim pictures to hide the grim truth, and 'normalise' the attacks.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 9:13 AM  

Ever wonder what muslim men like to do with young boys.....

Bacha Bazi is a widespread phenomenon in Afghanistan, where young boys are taken away from their (poor) families at the age of 11 to 13 to be used as sex slaves to older men who are often rich businessmen and warlords. The young boys learn to dance and sing. They then dress up as women and dance for the older men. Sexual abuse of the boys also occurs.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/03/a-night-out-with-the-dancing-boys/

Sweden is having huge problem with this. So far in the UK they are grooming both young boys and young girls.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 23, 2017 9:15 AM  

Grayman, manipulation of social mood (as defined & investigated under the Socionomic Hypothesis) is not possible. You are talking about something different.

Social mood just is. Its up and down movement is unalterable from the outside. Even earthquakes, massive wars and outstanding innovation do not lower or raise it.

Attempts to exogenously alter it are akin to putting a feverish person in an ice bath. Always, people see and try to manipulate the symptoms, not t actual underlying cause.

Blogger horsewithnonick March 23, 2017 9:18 AM  

Just imagine the carnage if those cars could rape little boys.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 23, 2017 9:21 AM  

Looking Glass, I reiterate, all the Soviets did was join the band. The direction was already in place.

This is why socionomics will never be popular. It's way too abstract and requires a rejection of people's natural grasp of the direction of causality. If you haven't immersed in it for quite some time it simply is invisible.

Anonymous Vin March 23, 2017 9:21 AM  

As of this morning the MSM is pushing the 'British born' angle on the London attacker.

Not new or unexpected but they're all getting killed in the comments with 'Who cares? Islam is the problem!' by people I suspect had a different view a year ago.

The UnCuckening is happening.

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 9:21 AM  

We now have it on record that expelling Muslims from the UK will eliminate 2.7% of traffic fatalities.

They have to go back.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 23, 2017 9:23 AM  

Who will be the celebrity jackwagon who first starts warbling out "Imagine" to candlelight?

Anonymous Al Jahom March 23, 2017 9:31 AM  

There are a lot of generalisations in comments here about "The English", of whom I'm one. Those generalisations are certainly true for much of the ruling elite and media, just as they are in the USA. But they are not true of us all.

Broadly, those who voted against Brexit are those about whom the generalisations are true. Conversely, while you won't find many talking about it loudly (free speech isn't a thing over here any more), those who voted for Brexit (and won!) disagree profoundly with the mealy-mouthed assertions of May and her ilk.

With regard to the situation in England and Britain, I'm minded of a recent post on the Z blog.

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=9881

In the UK, we have women as Prime Minister, and as First Ministers of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. We have women in charge of justice, law & order, and border control. Indeed law & order and borders is what Theresa May used to be in charge of as Home Secretary. And look where we are.

May's assertion of the UK being bound up as one community is one that is dismissed as nonsense by many, who know that, on a daily basis, they are dealing with a balkanised and stratified society with in-groups, out-groups, hierarchies of entitlement and justice, and a complete absence of "one rule for all".

See: https://aljahom.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/the-shed-society/

Apologies for whoring my own blog here, but it would be helpful for some people here to understand that there IS a resistance in England, however fragmented and marginalised it may be.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 23, 2017 9:31 AM  

Time to personalize the downfall of Britain -- blame their beloved queen. Queen Elizabeth has opened the door to invading wogs, and she is the country's madam who pimps underage British girls to conquering Islamists.

Blogger Cail Corishev March 23, 2017 9:31 AM  

As of this morning the MSM is pushing the 'British born' angle on the London attacker.

Which is a terrible argument, because it just proves that stopping incoming Muslims won't be enough; they also have to get rid of the ones already there before they make more babies who may grow up to be killers.

They're making our argument for repatriation. That they're resorting to that angle shows how desperate they are.

Blogger Ron March 23, 2017 9:44 AM  

@MrPaules

The Ottomans were in an unalterable state of decline by 1914. The Turks built an empire based looting their neighbors - always a short term proposition.

Yes, this is the problem with the Ottomans. As a result they are always weak against other dedicated civilizations and get taken over quickly, resukting in not just dealing with two hostile civs, but one giant hostile civ. And so its alwyas necessary to back Suleiman up whenever he gets into a war.

My strategy whenever I have him as a neighbor is to keep one or two strong units near his far border so that I can block off his opponent or even join his war effort. As a bonus, they are ready to harass him if he decides to attack me instead,

;)

Blogger dc.sunsets March 23, 2017 10:02 AM  

To the rabbit, r-strategist migrants are allies. To the herding animal still steeping in the echoes of a maniacally high social mood, Everything really is AWESOME and all we have to do is (h/t @66) Imagine a little harder.

Even six or eight years ago, the notion of the POTUS demanding men who identify as women be invited into women's rooms and male weight-lifters who identify as women beginning to take all the records in women's weightlifting competition would still have been publicly ridiculed.

This is the power of social mood. Yes, a few of us have our jaws drop, drop again, then drop some more with each new leap further into batshit insanity, but the Herd Does Not Think. The herd does not learn, the herd doesn't even remember. (This is why reconning history is so easy for them.)

Does someone really want to defend some hypothetical "system" by which this all assorts rationally? Please.

It is driven as the exact same level as this season's choice for hemlines and other elements of style and fashion. No designer, no Madison Avenue Ad Agency can DETERMINE, COMPEL or FORCE the next Big Fashion. Fortunes are made or lost in the Scientific, Wild-Assed Guess of what to buy, months in advance of the next fashion season. It's worse than trying to guess which few influenza variants to put in the multivalent seasonal flu shot.

I believe there's ample evidence to conclude that a trend change of Vast Proportion has begun. It's like turning a supertanker if the supertanker was flexible, like an earthworm.

Politics is the last social element to shift in any trend change. It is the "ultimate committee," and thus exhibits the most inertia.

The Alt-Right is the head of the earthworm. We turned 180 degrees from the hard-left turn of recent decades, and we are metaphorically passing, on the opposite side of history's road, those who are still herding left. They watch us with foaming-mouth rage; we watch them with undisguised loathing.

They, too, will turn right (or turn somehow) when the nexus of social mood change finally engulfs them. The most zealous cultists will likely just sit down and die, or pour gasoline on their heads and self-immolate in protest (while Alt-Right'ers refuse to even unzip their trousers to help put out the flames.)

Nothing can change this, just as nothing could force this long mania to reverse until (it seems) this period of 2016 to (??). Once the entire worm is turned, we'll spend a couple years in plunging social mood and it will eventually animate behaviors just as bat-guano crazy as the Bathroom Tranny insanity, only in a different direction. As others have noted, the rabbits (formerly leftists) will be cheering for gas chambers by the time we hit nadir, and those of us who are less prone to herding will wonder how things got that out of control.

Just as we do now, here near apogee.

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 10:13 AM  

DC..... our resident guru.

Anonymous BBGKB March 23, 2017 10:13 AM  

President Erdogan of Turkey said there is a war being waged between the crescent and the cross. But he is wrong. Because the cross is being undermined by the throwing star of David.

the real irony so it struck me, was: that yesterday Martin McGuiness the IRA's number 2 died and frankly to some extent he wrecked my life

At least the IRA is giving it to the moslems and not the Bacha Bazi way Anderson Cooper does.
http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/muslims-flee-northern-ireland-to-escape-anti-islam-violence-18836/

Count me in on the side of hate. PA

I believe we should elevate moslems above our own people, the way Vlad Tepes did.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 23, 2017 10:15 AM  

@71 dc.sunsets

One nice benefit to this side of reality is we can have high-level discussions and still toss in random allusions to "Dicks out for Harambe".

As to the deeper topic, I both agree & disagree in part, but I also realize this isn't the forum for the deeper discussion of the topic.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 23, 2017 10:19 AM  

@65 Shimshon
We now have it on record that expelling Muslims from the UK will eliminate 2.7% of traffic fatalities.


"If it saves only one life..."

Anonymous Grayman March 23, 2017 10:21 AM  

BBGKB

They must go back.... well all of them except for the skulls. Build a monument of skulls, as tall as the Lincoln memorial, so that none ever forget.

Anonymous Jeff March 23, 2017 10:36 AM  

Regarding leaving the Middle East alone, there is the oil issue.

But maybe that's not such a huge problem anymore? Trump should implement a ban on the purchase of oil from the Middle East. It might cause a bit of a price spike domestically but, IMO, that's a small price to pay for our safety.

Blogger Chiva March 23, 2017 10:36 AM  

I believe we should elevate moslems above our own people, the way Vlad Tepes did.

You have a point there.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2017 10:48 AM  

I would use the word "joke" instead of "infuriating" but that is me.

While the conservative minded want to rush out and debate the left, engage the left in discussion I would rather be liberated from the left.

I never give them any hint of respect or acknowledgement of supposed authority, power they have, authority not in my book.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 10:53 AM  

@Eric the Red

Haidt's work (a leftist) is interesting in this respect. Some of the difference in the way leftists think is likely innate behavioral differences, and some conditioning, but leftists, as a rule, simply do not value loyalty, sanctity, or authority, and often see them as negatives. Loyalty = "rayciss" or "xenophobia" or some other kind of ismphobia, authority = "oppression," sanctity = "mindless superstition that must be smashed." I don't think Haidt addresses this, but I've seen it documented elsewhere that leftists tend to have high thresholds for disgust, as well.

Bruce Charlton's work "Thought Prison: the fundamental Nature of Political Correctness" is pretty good, too.
thoughtprison-pc.blogspot.com

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 11:03 AM  

@Some Dude

"heh heh (rubs hands)" - Mainstream Media."

Pretty much.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 11:13 AM  

@MrPaules

"It took me awhile to understand that my ideas were not universally held by all people and all cultures."

Most non-European peoples and cultures do not really embrace an idea of morality as univerally-applicable rules, rather than "what's good for my people/ tribe."

This seems to be most notable in the various Middle Eastern tribes, though some are better at disguising it than Arabs/ Muslims are.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 11:18 AM  

@basementhomebrewer

"varying western powers decided to play footsie with the Ottoman's in order to 1 up their western adversaries."

Crimea War? Yeah. But if you look at WW1 and the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, it's hard to see that one as the fault of the Saracens. Balfour Declaration, anyone?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 23, 2017 11:24 AM  

Jeff wrote:Regarding leaving the Middle East alone, there is the oil issue.

What can they mohammedans do with the oil? They have no capability to build industry or agriculture, no ability to use energy except for personal consumption. The mohammedans will sell oil to the productive, or they will die of thirst before they starve.

They must sell their oil to us. In the long term, we don't have to buy.

Anonymous BBGKB March 23, 2017 11:29 AM  

Cunts that talk about car accidents act as if having more low IQ 3rd worlders has no effect on the number of accidents, DUI illegal aliens can cause accidents even against good German drivers.

If you have to know a terrorist's ethnicity & religion before you can decide how you feel about their violence

Not like betting to place on Desert Didndu or niglet has lost in the last decade. If it was white it would be the father of a victim.

Taqiyya, which is lying to advance Islam...SJW...they are bound together by fundamental tactics

They think the cowardly low IQ moslems will fight the armed Christians for them instead of attacking easy targets like gay bars.

Regarding leaving the Middle East alone, there is the oil issue.

No white people go there for a year & the oil infrastructure will be falling apart, then they will be begging for whitey to come back. "Sure sure you can draw pics of moohammad just let us be able to buy water again."

Blogger Mocheirge March 23, 2017 11:43 AM  

President Erdogan of Turkey said there is a war being waged between the crescent and the cross. But he is wrong. Because the cross is not strong. We are down on bended knee, a doormat to be trodden on, a joke only funny to those that wish us harm.
Erdogan is wrong because the war is between the Crescent and the Ball. And the Ball that moderns cower behind has an awful tendency to roll away, leaving them exposed.

Anonymous Tipsy March 23, 2017 11:49 AM  

Question: What is the prevalence of MAOA-2R in the Arab/Islamic world? I've seen some rather high figures, but so far no references.

Also, presuming the rate to be high, it seems that there is a pattern: Polygamy -> MAOA-2R. It doesn't require much to hypothesize why this is so ( I leave it as an exercise for the reader.)

Blogger MadMax 1861 March 23, 2017 12:07 PM  

@71"The most zealous cultists will likely just sit down and die, or pour gasoline on their heads and self-immolate in protest (while Alt-Right'ers refuse to even unzip their trousers to help put out the flames.)"

You're on a roll DC. I look forward to the coming wave of leftard self imolations. Maybe they'll start after Trump's reelection in 2020. From Leviticus: "It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the Lord."

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 12:16 PM  

@MrPaules

Exactly. Remove kebab. Don't bomb 'em over there; don't bring 'em over here.

The same tribalism/ clannishness that makes Arabs and North Africans a threat as terrorist and criminal gangs, makes them unable to form an effective offensive military threat. Large scale Arab/ African/ South Asian immigration is an existential threat to the West; Muslim countries are not.

The most extreme anti-Muslim rhetoric originates from the neocons-- (((Geller))), Gaffney, (((Katz))) (though a lot of Katz/ SITES role is more fake intelligence rather than straight polemics like Geller).. It's a game. "Let's you and him fight." Bomb the Muslims over there, "Oh, muh poor refugees!" Bring them over here. Promote some extreme "Islam is the Devil!" rhetoric on the "Right," partly to stir up the Muz, but mostly to trigger the Left into "Islamophobia!" "Rayciss!" "Xenophobia!" Repeat.

Meanwhile, the argument is all over how nice we should be to the Saracens once they get here, and how much we should attack them over here. How much time does someone like Geller spend saying "Hey, how about we just close the damn door, and let the Muslims be evil over there, instead of over here?"

Look up the story of Joshua Ryne Goldberg sometime, and note how much sh!t this 20 year old Overseas Israeli, literally living in his mom's basement, was able to stir up, and he was a rank amateur. Also note that Katz/ SITE validated one of his numerous online personalities as a dangerous terrorist high up in online jihadi circles. Interesting.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/florida-jew-arrested-for-posing-as-online-jihadist-encouraging-terrorism/

Goldberg was arrested for inciting some Muslims to bomb a 9/11 memorial ceremony, and instructing them in bombmaking, but some of his other capers are actually more revealing. Just one of many: he pretended to be a (made-up) "neo-Nazi" online. Using his "neo-Nazi" persona, he pretended to be a (real) Jewish lawyer from Australia named Bronstein. He then used the Bronstein identity to publish on a Times of Israel blog. After a few benign posts, he published an article calling for the genocide of the Palestinians.

Lulz ensued, of course, with Bronstein wailing "I disavow!" and the Times taking down the article. Those evil "neo-Nazis" were blamed. A false flag inside a false flag-- who even thinks of this sh!t? And remember, this guy was a 20 year old rank amateur. He's the tip of the iceberg. The better ones don't get caught.

Next up: search "Joshua Ryne Goldberg arrest"
OK, now search "Joshua Ryne Goldberg convicted"

Well, now...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 12:29 PM  

@Jonathan Wales

Yup. Kinda like how they never show dead Palestinian children. Or another one: remember the civil war in the Congo? I think it's pretty much over now, but guess how many people died in that? About 6 million. How many pictures of dead kids in the Congo did you see? Apparently that one wasn't useful for the narrative.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 12:32 PM  

@Pteronarcyd

"Queen Elizabeth has opened the door to invading wogs,"

The wogs really do begin at Calais now. It's not a joke any more. Actually, they begin down the street...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 12:38 PM  

@dc.sunsets

"Politics is the last social element to shift in any trend change."

Politics is downstream from culture, but a large part of culture is downstream from demographics. Culture change takes time, and the most important issue in allowing it to occur is arresting, then reversing, demographic change. TL;DR: Remove kebab.

Anonymous Balaam's Jigaboo-Jackass (Noam Ibn Sayhin) March 23, 2017 12:38 PM  

Remove your governments. They are not for you.

Blogger Dire Badger March 23, 2017 12:44 PM  

An angry muslim in a turban stomps into a london Bar, and angrily orders everyone to kneel.
all 30 of the people kneel, and the Muslim starts one by one beheading all the customers with a sword.
After the third man is beheaded, one man looks at another, and says "Wait...why are we kneeling? There are 30 of us, we could overpower him easily."

The other man looks at him, horrified, and says "Ssshhhhh.... do you want to make him angry?"

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 12:47 PM  

@Jeff
"Regarding leaving the Middle East alone, there is the oil issue"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that both China and Japan import more ME oil than we do. How much have they spent, in lives and $, on bombing and invading the sand people?

For centuries, Britain's policy toward the Continent was essentially "back the #2 power." It worked. Even if we choose to stay involved in the ME, our national interests can be protected by ensuring that no single hostile foreign power gains hegemony over the region.

Let the various desert tribal countries work out their internecine squabbles on their own. Of course, that's assuming that our leaders have American interests at heart, not the interests of one of those countries...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 23, 2017 1:04 PM  

@Grayman

"Ever wonder what muslim men like to do with young boys....."

To be fair, this particular practice seems to be a tribal one that is not particularly related to Islam in Afghanistan. The Taliban banned Bacha bazi under their sharia law, and enforced the ban, for instance. Is this practice also widespread, and accepted, in culturally-unrelated Muslim countries such as Indonesia?

On a tangentially-related note, the Taliban also banned opium cultivation/ trafficking, and were effective in enforcing the ban. Take a look sometime at what's happened to opium production in Afghanistan since the invasion-- makes you wonder sometimes about those people who claim CIA involvement in drug trafficking.

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 1:28 PM  

@96 Sexual deviancy among Muslims is widespread. My friend here was telling me about his Arab car mechanic telling him unprompted about how interested one of his close relatives (brother, I think) was in goats. Or was it sheep? That doesn't mean every Arab engages in it. But the fact that this typical Arab (who lives within spitting distance of my city of residence) exhibited no shame in telling this to my friend is informative.

The Taliban should indeed be missed. They were ruthless and barbaric, but they indeed nearly eliminated the opium trade in their country and attempted to curb the sexual excess of their people.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents March 23, 2017 1:44 PM  

@97 Shimshon
@96 Sexual deviancy among Muslims is widespread. My friend here was telling me about his Arab car mechanic telling him unprompted about how interested one of his close relatives (brother, I think) was in goats. Or was it sheep?

Probably goats. Or donkeys. Ask anyone who spent time in Iraq outside the wire, especially if they worked with any Iraqi Army. It's common. Not always socially acceptable, but common.

Blogger Shimshon March 23, 2017 1:58 PM  

@98 To be fair, I think the Arab was offended at his relative's peccadilloes, but if it were MY relative (God forbid!), I wouldn't go around talking to strangers about it.

Anonymous badhairday March 23, 2017 2:58 PM  

RE Oil:

Trump should discourage local oil production and encourage buying from S. Arabia for as long as its cheap. The Saudi economy is allegedly collapsing so the can't afford to use the money to buy up US real estate.

The long term goal should be for S Arabia to run out of oil before we do.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 23, 2017 3:10 PM  

Only a total idiot would make the argument;

"We're justified in importing feces-eaters because there are already many feces-eaters in our own country."

They don't understand how the world works. They are fundamentally ignorant about human nature. Their claims to intellectual ability are fake.

Cars are a necessity. Therefore we try to minimize the damage via inspection laws, safety standards, speed limits, road signage, etc.

The importation of Muslims is completely unnecessary, yet we have little to no justification for minimizing the damage they do, in the minds of leftist buffoons.

"Because my dad was killed in a car wreck, I should be fine with my neighbor being run down by Muslim invaders."


The fool doesn't even comprehend that a car was used by the damn terrorist as a weapon lol!

Anonymous foobc March 23, 2017 3:22 PM  

> The Swastika would still be flying over Westminster.

LOL! You mean Hakenkreuz don't you ? Cause the swastika already flies, on all buildings, festivals and temples of Hindus (and it's variations, Buddhism and Jainism).

Swastika, shubhtika and laltika are all Hindi/Sanskrit words for the holiest symbols of the Aryan religion, Hinduism, ie of the holy (v)Edda.

Hakenkreuz is the native German word.

Anonymous Avalanche March 23, 2017 5:46 PM  

@23 "There is no characteristic of Islam more loathsome than taqiyya, no idea more antithetical to Anglo notions of fair play and righteousness than the belief that it is honorable to lie to an infidel."

Judaism has the EXACT same concept: is that a problem for you, or do you still drink the koolaid?

Anonymous logprof March 23, 2017 9:39 PM  

I hate to nitpick --nah, I love to-- but doesn't Iceland in fact have the world's oldest Parliament?

Blogger JP March 24, 2017 12:26 AM  

Sounds like bullshit. No way to prove or disprove, since it's too vague and can be easily redefined. When Keynes couldn't get his economic theories to work, he just blamed animal spirits, which is basically the same thing and serving the same purpose.

Blogger JP March 24, 2017 12:33 AM  

Muhammad had a six year old bride, so I don't think they come down too hard on that. ... That said, I wouldn't be too surprised if bacha-bazi is an Afghan version of the old Greek practice brought in by Alexander the Great.

Blogger James Fox Higgins March 24, 2017 9:22 AM  

"We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror and never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart."

Why are these people always putting hate in the same category as evil?

Hate is not evil. Evil is evil. And you SHOULD hate evil.

If you don't hate evil, you ARE evil.

Blogger James Dixon March 24, 2017 9:47 AM  

> Trump should discourage local oil production and encourage buying from S. Arabia for as long as its cheap. The Saudi economy is allegedly collapsing so the can't afford to use the money to buy up US real estate.

Whether stated or not, that was effectively US policy up until 2001. Events have since made us reconsider the advisability of that policy.

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