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Monday, March 13, 2017

Society is a racial construct

Le Chateau spells it out, in support of Rep. Steve King's statement of the obvious.
Steve King ✔ @SteveKingIA
Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.
  • Society is a racial construct.
  • There is no magic dirt that will transform, say, Somalis and Syrians into lovers, defenders, and disciples of Constitutional republicanism.
  • Race matters.
  • Once more…..RACE MATTERS.
  • In fact, race is the primary source pool of civilization and culture; all other variables are commentary in comparison.
  • Culture isn’t a costume. It can’t be worn like a Turinic shroud with the expectation that it will reverse-imbue the intrinsic character of any people who happen to hop the border and adopt its most superficial trappings.
  • Culture is an emergent property of the people that comprise it, who themselves are properties of their genes and of the predispositions and beliefs and behaviors and temperaments and aptitudes with which they are endowed by their genes.
  • America is not a nation of immigrants. America is a nation of colonists who, along with their descendants, created, built, and nourished America into a great nation, perhaps the greatest the world has ever known. Immigrants came later, and they were for a long while chosen from stock populations that were not too dissimilar from the founding stock of America (African slaves stand as a glaring exception). It was not until relatively recently (1965 onward) that immigrants significantly deviated in numbers and racial congeniality from the historical norm of immigration into America.
  • Quite simply, the myth of American exceptionalism is just that. American ideals aren’t spread by osmosis into the deep psyches of different races of people; rather, a very specific race of people — White Europeans of primarily Anglo-Celtic-Germanic descent — breathed life into the American ideals, and without them their ideals wither from neglect and misuse in the care of their usurpers.
  • We are not created equal under Nature, and this truism applies to races as it does to individuals. Memorable exceptions only prove the wisdom of pragmatic generalizations.
  • The Constitution, or any stirring stanza of words written by Whites for White sensibilities, will not change a Chinaman into a heartland Chad. Racial foreigners can mouth the words, but if they don’t feel it in their bones they’ll have no trouble betraying those words when its personally advantageous or when the Law isn’t hovering closely to motivate their observance.
  • A civilization is the sum total of the people that inhabit it. Change the people, change the civilization.
  • Some cultures really are superior to other cultures. If it were not so, millions of those from the lesser cultures would not be escaping into the homelands of the better cultures.
  • Finally, the character of a nation is not established by a founding document; instead, the founding document chronicles the character of a nation. PEOPLE MAKE THE NATION, THE NATION DOES NOT MAKE THE PEOPLE. If the people change, so does the nation, into whatever form the replacement people find most familiar, which usually means a facsimile of their native homelands they left behind.
Steve King is right. You can wave your final goodbye to White American civilization if some other tribes are having all the babies. The future belongs to those who show up, and the shape of that future depends on the innate character of its inheritors. That’s Stone Cold Truth 101, and it’s the truth that has bedeviled suicide signaling leftoids for generations, and driven them into increasingly insane postures of delusional doublethink, obscene hypocrisy, and hoary lies.
THERE IS NO MAGIC DIRT.

NATIONS ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, NOT LINES ON A MAP.

THERE ARE NO MAGIC WORDS.

AMERICA IS A NATION. AMERICANS ARE A PEOPLE.

X CAN NEVER ALSO BE NOT-X.

CIVILIZATION IS NOT GUARANTEED.

DIVERSITY + PROXIMITY = WAR.

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Blogger Lovekraft March 13, 2017 11:07 AM  

Heartiste, RooshV, Milo, Molyneux, VoxDay.

Names one should be as familiar with as a frontiersman should know how to trap.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit March 13, 2017 11:10 AM  

Close the borders, stop the welfare and the dwindling birthrate becomes moot. We cannot out-breed primitive people born to breed especially when they are rewarded for giving birth and their children are taken care of with other peoples money.

Anonymous Henry Huggins March 13, 2017 11:11 AM  

Man, you guys really need to get outside of your echo chamber.

The vast majority of people disagree with you and are calling you out on your hypocrisy (native americans anyone?)

Know that you will lose and that whites will be a minority

Blogger Lovekraft March 13, 2017 11:12 AM  

Trolls need to try harder. Stuff like McHuggy above only entertains us.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 13, 2017 11:14 AM  

This is one of the most important pieces of information Heartiste has published. King+Roissy FTW.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 13, 2017 11:15 AM  

Professor Henry Huggins says " Why can't an Alt-Right be more like a Shitlib?"

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 11:17 AM  

Truth being publicly defended. That's new. That's gratifying. And the point-and-shriek attempts to defend a lie (blank slate) prove every day that armies really can't hold back an idea whose time has come.

The rapidity with which (what amounts to) HBD-awareness is rising is nothing short of astonishing.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 13, 2017 11:20 AM  

DC,

We've said for years on this blog, (Vox specifically) that things will continue until they don't. The truth of that statement is demonstrated irrefutably here.

The corollary is that things which are unsustainable can not be sustained. Also, God is not mocked.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 13, 2017 11:23 AM  

Time to poop on this post: 11 minutes. Not quite a record, but close.

It's nice to see a congresscritter willing to say ‘nativist’ badthink and hatefacts. Maybe we won't run out of lampposts after all.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 11:24 AM  

In related news, the Supreme Court's recent decision to throw out state laws that walled off jury deliberations from 2nd guessing about juror "bias" are an open statement that people of differing ethnicities/races/religions (AKA Identities) cannot coexist under the same criminal judicial system. Why? They've effectively ruled that an Hispanic who victimized a non-Hispanic can't get justice from a jury with any non-Hispanics, while the non-Hispanic victim can't obtain justice from a jury with Hispanics on it.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/scotus-leftists-rule-child-molestation-less-important-than-the-depravity-of-whiteness

Yep. The SCOTUS just rendered impossible a shared court system. They just enshrined Identity as the central attribute of a polity.

Anonymous Rocklea March 13, 2017 11:25 AM  

The more the left whines, the more people will come to see the altright as the moral choice that it is.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 13, 2017 11:26 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:They've effectively ruled that an Hispanic who victimized a non-Hispanic can't get justice from a jury with any non-Hispanics, while the non-Hispanic victim can't obtain justice from a jury with Hispanics on it.
That's not new at all. Our (((courts))) have had a long-standing policy that white juries and jurors are racist. (JWS always project.)

Anonymous VFM#1819 March 13, 2017 11:29 AM  

I'd trade white and (((white))) American liberals for pretty much any group of foreigners. Without the liberals constant deception and scheming, even large groups of foreign immigrants would pose little serious threat. And when they did misbehave, without liberal meddling it would be an easy to send them back from whence they came.

Blogger allyn71 March 13, 2017 11:29 AM  

Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.

Truer words have never been said.

Of course the inverse is true. If someone wants to replace your babies with those of another, they want to destroy your culture.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) March 13, 2017 11:30 AM  

3. Henry Huggins March 13, 2017 11:11 AM
Know that you will lose and that whites will be a minority



anyone who disagrees with Henry suffers from Bourgeois consciousness.

the Proletarian, being fully cognizant of his group loyalty and trust to other Proletarians, regardless of their racial, religious, ethnic, cultural or language differences, will ALWAYS choose to support fellow Proletarians against the Bourgeois.

*this* is the reason the Left has such affinity with muslim shitworlders who cut their own daughters heads off for speaking to non-muslims.

because the Proletarian consciousness identifies language / race / religion as null sets, being of no importance. but the fact that the turd-worlder, by definition ( lack of Capital ) is THE MOST Proletarian that any person can be, the allegiance of the Marxist is thence given unwaveringly to the Proletarian alien and his hatred is directed at his domestic Bourgeois compatriots.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 11:30 AM  

At risk of being labeled a gamma faggot I will say trolls serve a purpose at least to show how silly the word "racist" and its derivatives are.

For decades the great conservative intellectuals lectured us about the seriousness of "racism" well here we are and look who is lecturing us, what a total fucking fraud.

Anonymous Faceless March 13, 2017 11:31 AM  

I had a couple thoughts in this line which I believe explain at least Ann Coulter's immigration policy positions:

Time and intermarriage creates new nations, but it usually takes a while. To get Biblical, at least 10 generations.

The American white is not a European, because there is no European; there are European nations, but a German is not an Italian is not a Frank is not a Scot, and so a blending of those is a whole new nation.

The American black is not an African, because there is no African; there are African nations, but a Senegalese is not a Ghanan is not a Namibian is not a Kenyan, and so a blending of those (especially thrown in with random European nations) is a whole new nation as well.

However, Hispanic is not a nation; Guatemalan, Mexican, Honduran, Colombian - those are nations, and they can, by and large, trace back to one of those groups. Asian is not a nation; Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Japanese, Korean are nations, and they can, by and large, trace back to one of these groups. Other groups who have practiced racial isolation and intermarriage - they are not part of the American nations - they are part of their own racial nation, hence they practice their own rules against miscegenation.

So there are then two groups that are distinctly new nations brought about on this continent, and then there are identifiable recent immigrants, and the government policy should reflect this in deciding who the American people are.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 11:32 AM  

@8 stg, it was never a question of trees growing to the sky; it was always a question of how long the unsustainable could continue before reversal occurred. The USSR violated irrefutable economic axiom from 1922 (when those laws were elucidated) until 1991. That's a lifetime for most of us, and the Western Theocracy of Universal Holy Homogeneous Diversity is past its half-century mark. The question isn't will reality reestablish. It was When will it do so?

VD wrote columns about all this over a decade ago. Only NOW do we see evidence rapidly mount that the turn is well and truly underway. It would have been nice if the turn had come earlier, but just as armies cannot resist an idea whose time has come, neither can they force an idea whose time is not yet ripe.

The turn to the Left has slowed, if not stopped. The turn to the Right has only just begun.

Blogger DeploraBard March 13, 2017 11:38 AM  

I bet he doubles down and doesn't apologize. He would have never said it had he not considered the effects.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 March 13, 2017 11:42 AM  

Rep. Steve King is an IRA sympathizer so I doubt his loyalties will lie with the US.

Blogger tuberman March 13, 2017 11:44 AM  

Seems that King has already doubled down.

Blogger DeploraBard March 13, 2017 11:45 AM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 11:46 AM  

@17 This is why all this interests me. In the USA it's not French vs German vs English. In Europe these are discrete nations, but in the USA all we have in common is (1) less melanin, (2) the Commonweal Civilization of the West and (3) everyone wants what we produce and are used to obtaining it by force (politics) and fraud (guilt.)

From the Barrios in NYC to the African-American Student Unions at universities, we see non-whites do not share Western Civ. Neither do the Ashkenazim. Mestizos are not Cubans are not Africans. The ONLY thing they share is hatred of YT, of resenting YT for producing the benefits people stream into the USA to obtain (because they cannot and will NEVER produce them in Honduras, in Mexico, in Cuba, in Haiti, or anywhere in Africa, China, or Asia.)

This is why I expect to win. While there are nations-within-the-nation in the USA, the forge of being hammered by all sides will alloy whites into coherence and political identity.

The shrieking from (((academia))), (((media))), and all the parasitic groups of non-whites is open recognition that deep down, they realize the tragedy of THEIR OWN COMMONS. The fruits of Western (white) Civ are their grass. Each group benefits by pounding whites for more grass, but all those groups together are crowding whites into open recognition of truths long buried (again, with active (((help))) from the tribal, high IQ among us.)

Each non-white group wants to get the most loot, the largest gains from Western Civ's Commons (us), but collectively they've backed whites into a corner and are beating us into a monolith.

What's that about "never interrupt your adversaries when they're making a mistake?"

Everyone plays their role in this pageant, whether they realize it or not.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 11:50 AM  

Wrong King #21. This King is from the soon to be targeted for kulak elimination Iowa 4th district.

Anyway what is the left going to do, call a white man "racist?" (FTR I don't think even conservative intellectuals can save the word "racist" from being mocked into oblivion)

Blogger tuberman March 13, 2017 11:51 AM  

#25

The sword blade is being fired and hammered into existence.

Blogger Howard J. Harrison March 13, 2017 11:56 AM  

Steve King, U.S. representative, has always been a good man, but his words Sunday push across a new political frontier. Has any U.S. Congressman since Watergate uttered such words? "Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 11:57 AM  

Sunsets report yourself to the Committee for Respectable Conservatives, you truly are a bad person.

As I have said for years the White Nats drive people away from being white but the Left drives people into being white, so the Left is our best recruitment effort while our Nazi Larpers our worst recruiters. VD doing great work here in marginalizing people who actually revel in being marginal anyway.

And the silly trolls that show their faces here should be encouraged to go out into meatspace to call white people "racists."

Anonymous Adam Cramer March 13, 2017 11:59 AM  

18. "Mark it down", whites will still exist in one hundred years. I can't say the same about your people.

Blogger Lazarus March 13, 2017 12:02 PM  

the myth of American exceptionalism is just that. American ideals aren’t spread by osmosis into the deep psyches of different races of people; rather, a very specific race of people — White Europeans of primarily Anglo-Celtic-Germanic descent — breathed life into the American ideals, and without them their ideals wither from neglect and misuse in the care of their usurpers.

Leftists leave the bold part out of their definition of AE.

Blogger Howard J. Harrison March 13, 2017 12:04 PM  

@Robert Browning: Steve King has just spoken words no member of Congress has had the courage to utter in 40 years. Rather than subjecting King to reductio ad judæorum, you might just cut him some slack. He's going to need it.

Will King apologize and back down? I hope not, but most of them do. The pressure will be intense. We'll see.

Blogger Lovekraft March 13, 2017 12:05 PM  

Any shitlib position falls on its face due to one simple fact: they've displayed their deception via "institutionalized racism."

That and that alone renders leftist 'intellectual' argument a feeble emotional mess. Either one is racist/sexist according to objective standards, or one isn't.

Leftists excusing their violence because of some made-up reason is on full display and anyone defending it deserves scorn.

Anonymous Roundtine March 13, 2017 12:07 PM  

The vast majority of people disagree with you and are calling you out on your hypocrisy (native americans anyone?)

Tries to troll. Delivers Alt-Right talking point. You have reached the end of Leftism. Congratulations!

Anonymous Roundtine March 13, 2017 12:10 PM  

I've gone right their face and called them goy

Next time call them gentile, then try man and dude.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 March 13, 2017 12:15 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Wrong King #21. This King is from the soon to be targeted for kulak elimination Iowa 4th district.

Anyway what is the left going to do, call a white man "racist?" (FTR I don't think even conservative intellectuals can save the word "racist" from being mocked into oblivion)


Oh right, that was Peter King. Sorry about that.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 12:15 PM  

I fully support jews going out and calling whites "goy." We need more of it, get to work jews.

Anonymous Roundtine March 13, 2017 12:15 PM  

King's comment changes the frame. Once you see the truth, you cannot unsee it. It's like when people say there's a "homegrown terrorist" from the West and his name is Mohammed Dirka Akbar. A German named Mohammemed Hussein. When you are in the bubble you go along with it. As soon as your think "that guy is not German" the narrative is forever shattered.

I've seen a lot of people trying to attack him by saying he's calling for wiping out cultures, because he's saying you can't be Irish and American, or African and American, etc. They think they're making an argument against him, but they're taking the first step to thinking like Steve King, but they're agreeing with what he's saying, they want to preserve their separate identity.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 13, 2017 12:17 PM  

I guess I'll just lie down and die then!

You sure told us!

A representative is now publicly speaking an alt-right argument. Hardly a sign of decline. More like a new hope.
Whites being a minority will not effect the eventual outcome. Pizarro needed 200 whites to destroy the 80,000+ Incan army. I think we will be able to muster that once the fighting starts. Whites being a minority could never be anything to celebrate, though. I noticed you didn't attempt to refute any of the arguments either.

SJWs always project. It's YOU who needs to leave your echo chamber. If you think people in Alabama, Montana, Alaska, etc. are cucked you're wrong.

Finally there's no hypocrisy regarding the Native Americans. I have them in my family tree. Vox has many more. We sure as hell didn't kill them. I was born in 1982. Their misfortune doesn't justify one invading foot touching our soil. In fact, it's these post-1965 invaders who are the ones hurting the American Indians, by continuing the process.

You will lose. Leftists will be consigned to history.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 12:17 PM  

Steve King for president 2024.

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 12:19 PM  

Go away, Robert Browning. I have a strict "no monomanias" policy here.

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 12:20 PM  

Ignore fake Loren Feldman, gentle readers.

Blogger tuberman March 13, 2017 12:22 PM  

Ha! I bet being called a "goy" to their face was so hurtful that they didn't know whether a smirk, a laugh, or just a subtle smile would fill the bill?

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 12:29 PM  

The folks celebrating the end of a white majority never seem to take a look at places where the whites have lost power. And how is South Africa looking these days? I never hear about it in the press, for some reason...

But I'm sure that a hispanic USA will be just like a white USA, only a little better.

Blogger ZhukovG March 13, 2017 12:32 PM  

We should hold a 'Goy Pride' march!

Anonymous Corvid March 13, 2017 12:33 PM  

I pray for a world where jews walk around calling people "goy" instead of "Hello, fellow white people! Don't you feel bad about our privilege?" The alt-right would grow by leaps and bounds.

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 12:37 PM  

Yep. The SCOTUS just rendered impossible a shared court system. They just enshrined Identity as the central attribute of a polity.

That is hysterically funny.

Elites: Why do they not trust us so?

Blogger ZhukovG March 13, 2017 12:40 PM  

Though I have seen it repeatedly, I never cease to be amazed at how a few simple words can enlighten a person.

I met with some local gentlemen on Sunday. During our discussion of current events I used, "Diversity + Proximity = War. At first brows furrowed and then eyes went wide. I was asked to repeat it and several wrote it down. One old Vietnam Vet shook his head and said, "We never learn do we?". I said "Now would be a good time for us to start".

My point is, you don't need long winded, clever dialectical arguments. Just a few simple, easily digestible words can move people towards the truth.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 12:43 PM  

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Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 12:46 PM  

Let me know if I'm off topic, here. Just want to contribute to the discussion.

Okay, if we are talking about what comprises the "pure American" from England, (excepting the blacks, the Indians, the Germans who went to Pennsylvania, various Spaniards in the south, the French trapper outposts throughout the Ohio River Valley, as well as the various Catholic Englishmen who came here to hide from persecution)...I believe the following is relevant to the discussion, though I could be wrong:

America has been one, big, Jewish colony from the beginning, as far as the primary English Americans are concerned.

The Englishmen who came here in the 1600s were from a people who were originally Catholic, but upon the start of King Henry VIII's new church, England allowed in a lot of Jewish immigrants who brought many new forms of Protestantism with them from the Continent--Puritanism chief among them.

What I'm saying is that Englishmen were converted into Puritans by Jewish immigrants to England.

For the Puritans, Anglicanism was too Catholic for them, as they wanted to orient and purify themselves to be as much the new Jews as possible. They were Judaized. Jewish scholars even use the term Puritan Hebraism for the circumstance.

This brand of English Whigs would drink in the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and orient themselves against crown and tiara. Even the first American Freemasons were Dutch Jews.

And, oh yeah, let's not forget, kids, that the Dutch slave traders were...Jewish!

The "city on the hill" is a Puritan version of Jewish Zionism.

Blogger wired216 March 13, 2017 12:48 PM  

Only the food.

Blogger Cloudswrest March 13, 2017 12:49 PM  

Henry Huggins wrote:The vast majority of people disagree with you and are calling you out on your hypocrisy (native americans anyone?)

The case that the majority says the sky is green and grass is blue does not make it so. Reality is not a democracy.

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Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 1:00 PM  

The "city on the hill" is a Puritan version of Jewish Zionism.

It's a defensible narrative. I tend to believe it.

But I doubt you will change many minds about it: the past is too foggy and most people are too bound up in their own enthno-social narratives (which are typically plausible enough) to consider alternatives around foundational myths.

Not me, of course, I'm perfectly objective about these things... ;)

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 1:09 PM  

I frankly revel in rejecting The Big Lie ahead of the herd doing so.

One day I realized that I was wearing filtered glasses and saw the world in black-and-white, when all I needed to do was shed the blinders and see Full Color.

Paradoxically, seeing in Full Color let me understand my color and the other colors (I don't refer to melanin content, BTW.)

Embracing reality now, the draining away of Cognitive Dissonance feels truly wonderful.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 1:09 PM  

@dc.sunsets

"They've effectively ruled that an Hispanic who victimized a non-Hispanic can't get justice from a jury with any non-Hispanics, while the non-Hispanic victim can't obtain justice from a jury with Hispanics on it."

The latter circumstance is highly unlikely to come into play. The intent of this rule is purely anti-White, so non-White jurors judging Whites is not a problem, and brown vs. black conflicts need to be minimized in order to support the narrative, so...

Also, note the example Derb gives early in the article, from St. John's College. Any parallels between this "study group" and, say, the "struggle sessions" of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution are purely coincidental, of course.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 1:18 PM  

@53 dc.sunsets

Embracing reality now, the draining away of Cognitive Dissonance feels truly wonderful.


Yes, it is. So many things that either didn't make sense at all, or required increasingly convoluted re-rewrites to explain are now simple and easy to understand. There is no blank slate. There never was. Great grandfather was right, "Blood will tell" and great grandmother was right, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".

Somewhere in Gulag Archapelago Solzhenitsyn writes that in the camps there were moments of total freedom, when zeks could speak openly, without pretending to believe the Party lies. They were free to speak the truth to each other, something that couldn't be done in Moscow.

Blogger Dr Caveman March 13, 2017 1:23 PM  

The recent Turkish riots in the Netherlands once again showed that importing 3rd worlders from tribalist cultures is suicide. Even after 3-4 generations they identity as primarily Turks with zero loyalty to the Netherlands.
Luckily, they demonstrated this a few days before the election

Anonymous Know Nothings Did Nothing Wrong March 13, 2017 1:23 PM  

America was just fine as a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant nation. The problems began when we let in papist potato niggers from Ireland, who then opened up the gates to the Jews, and later hoards of dirty papist Mexicans.

Anonymous BBGKB March 13, 2017 1:31 PM  

Echo chamber, we have faggots nazis & jews posting here. All 3 at one time when MILO posts.

Yep. The SCOTUS just rendered impossible a shared court system. They just enshrined Identity as the central attribute of a polity

DC @10 it was a retired cop on the jury who said he was always arresting mexicans for attacks on underage girls and DUIs that was the issue in the case. The reason so many 90% Detroit juries are 100% white is that you can't serve on a jury as a criminal.

Rep. Steve King is an IRA sympathizer so I doubt his loyalties will lie with the US.

The IRA is making moslems behave http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/europe/muslims-flee-northern-ireland-to-escape-anti-islam-violence-18836/

In the USA it's not French vs German vs English. In Europe these are discrete nations, but in the USA all we have in common is

The main difference between the US & Europe is that there were 2 subject matter experts 1000 miles away it is likely they both speak the same language

The case that the majority says the sky is green and grass is blue does not make it so

When I wore them to amusement parks over the summer lots of people liked my "White Privilege" & "White lives matter" except for some faces that looked like Ben Garrison caricatures. Fortunately non asian minorities are not literate enough to be offended.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 1:32 PM  

"They've effectively ruled that an Hispanic who victimized a non-Hispanic can't get justice from a jury with any non-Hispanics, while the non-Hispanic victim can't obtain justice from a jury with Hispanics on it."

The latter circumstance is highly unlikely to come into play. The intent of this rule is purely anti-White, so non-White jurors judging Whites is not a problem, and brown vs. black conflicts need to be minimized in order to support the narrative, so...


Identity is rapidly subsuming presumptions of court and jury impartiality. We knew this already (OJ trial, Trump U., etc.) The SCOTUS just made it OFFICIAL US Policy.

Anyone who still thinks this is STILL an antebellum period just got a wake-up call. Snowball, meet mountain.

All I can do is marvel at how rapidly all these things are mounting, and stocks haven't even topped yet.

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 1:41 PM  

America was just fine as a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant nation.

See? There is some truth to this narrative, although it simplistically fails to distinguish between the Puritans and Cavaliers. But the point is that there is little possibility for reflection or dialectic here. Whose narrative? Which history?

Thankfully, England was able to remain 100% pure Anglo-Saxon phenotype, and therefore isn't suffering any of the problems America is. And pity poor Ireland, overrun with wogs.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 1:44 PM  

Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Our brethren are already in the field!

Blogger Midnight Avenue J March 13, 2017 1:45 PM  

When the stocks crumble, the sentiments of realists will be the foundation upon which they land and become the very stone of a new era.

I wonder how long this can all continue, and the only answer is "until the money runs out." It hasn't run out yet, and the mess keeps building up behind the wall of ignore-it the kids have put up between it and the inevitable arrival of either police, parents, or both.

I'm happy to see this acceleration because it means I might, in my time, see a resolution to ideas I've held since childhood. Imbued in me? I don't know, maybe. but globomulticult doesn't make sens. It did for a brief period when the mid-90s were supposed to be some re-creation of the late 60s sentiments or something of the sort, but you break out of that.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 1:54 PM  

So the white liberals are going to force the people of color into accepting "Western Civilization", maybe they should ask the people of color if they even want "Western Civilization."

I bet most PoC think their civilization is just fine and Western Civilization is something that needs to go away while they loot the magic dollar factory.

Anonymous w. Lindsay Wheeler March 13, 2017 1:59 PM  

I strongly second and approve of Larimie Hirsch's comments!
Laramie Hirsch wrote:Let me know if I'm off topic, here. Just want to contribute to the discussion.

Okay, if we are talking about what comprises the "pure American" from England, (excepting the blacks, the Indians, the Germans who went to Pennsylvania, various Spaniards in the south, the French trapper outposts throughout the Ohio River Valley, as well as the various Catholic Englishmen who came here to hide from persecution)...I believe the following is relevant to the discussion, though I could be wrong:

America has been one, big, Jewish colony from the beginning, as far as the primary English Americans are concerned.

The Englishmen who came here in the 1600s were from a people who were originally Catholic, but upon the start of King Henry VIII's new church, England allowed in a lot of Jewish immigrants who brought many new forms of Protestantism with them from the Continent--Puritanism chief among them.

What I'm saying is that Englishmen were converted into Puritans by Jewish immigrants to England.

For the Puritans, Anglicanism was too Catholic for them, as they wanted to orient and purify themselves to be as much the new Jews as possible. They were Judaized. Jewish scholars even use the term Puritan Hebraism for the circumstance.

This brand of English Whigs would drink in the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and orient themselves against crown and tiara. Even the first American Freemasons were Dutch Jews.

And, oh yeah, let's not forget, kids, that the Dutch slave traders were...Jewish!

The "city on the hill" is a Puritan version of Jewish Zionism.


The Anglicans called the Puritans "Demi-Jews". Today, America is a Marxist country. It is thoroughly Marxist, i.e. Jewish. The abolitionists were Social Justice warriors. The Masonic basis, with Enlightenment tolerance, with Gnostic Protestantism, all now has morphed in Marxist America. In my opinion, America is a Jewish state, culturally, intellectually, and morally. The aristocracy of America is Jewish and they control all the cultural levers.

Blogger Student in Blue March 13, 2017 2:00 PM  

@60. praetorian
And pity poor Ireland, overrun with wogs.

One of the things that kills me is when fiction tries having a black Irishman. Or a black Scot.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents March 13, 2017 2:06 PM  

Laramie Hirsch
upon the start of King Henry VIII's new church, England allowed in a lot of Jewish immigrants who brought many new forms of Protestantism with them from the Continent--

Who were those people, which part of the Continent did they come from, why did they move, and how many?
Dude, you handwave a lot. Can you even do facts?

The genetic map of the US is not a secret.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 2:08 PM  

I think i found some footage of the upcoming Berkley rally based on the recent discussion of gear and tactics:

https://youtu.be/GvrOlKUUSlI



Know that you will lose and that whites will be a minority

Inst that a bit Racist?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 2:09 PM  

@dc.sunsets

Regarding the Supreme Court decision, and why this will only apply to White jurors: Blacks objecting to mestizo jurors, or vice versa, would undermine the narrative of "all of the officially-designated victim groups gloriously struggling together against cishetero White male rayciss patriarchal supremacist oppression." Or something like that. Not intersectionally sound at all.

It would be kind of like bringing lawsuits against Muslim bakers for refusing to bake a cake for a homosexual "wedding."

Blogger Some Dude March 13, 2017 2:09 PM  

Nice try wheeler and hirshe.

If it was intrinsicay jewish why is zion so intent on reversing its morality, laws and culture?

Because its not and semantics dont work with anyone who can tell the words rhetoric and dialectic apart.

Notice the Narrative illusion here. Sprinkles of truth.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 2:14 PM  

@Mr. Mantran

"Nazi Larpers our worst recruiters."

Might want to check out how DS ranks on Alexa...

Blogger Some Dude March 13, 2017 2:14 PM  

Read niall fergusons book empire. I read it on recommendation from a commenter here.

Up to the civil war the immigrants to north america were predominantly northwestern european of british, celtic, dutch and gallic stock. Something like 25% of immigrants to america in the 19th cebtury were irish.

The irish mistakenly get lumped in with the later souther euro/jewish/scandy immigration wave.

There are more people of scandanavian descent alive in america than hewish descent. America has never been a jewish country. In fact it succeeds by not being like a middle eastern low trust despot ruler society. Blow me asshole.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 2:16 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:
…….Yep. The SCOTUS just rendered impossible a shared court system. They just enshrined Identity as the central attribute of a polity.


DC,

As VD has pointed out this just helps cement a “deathmatch” between neo-marxism and ethno-nationalism. These steps will ultimately make it easier to determine friend vs foe. Over the weekend I was at a family get together and it was interesting. There is definitely a phase change of sorts occurring. All of the men in the family discussed that they all feel it. Most of those who were “on the fence” politics wise are rapidly moving to the right and those on the left (all cucked) are getting very uncomfortable. I am seeing a lot of people putting the façade aside and calling it as they see it.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 2:18 PM  

@Howard J. Harrison

"...you might just cut him some slack. He's going to need it."

Exactly. It wouldn't matter if he was a Communist with an adopted Black child. If he stands up on his hind legs and says something like that, meme it.

Anonymous Know Nothings Did Nothing Wrong March 13, 2017 2:20 PM  

wheeler and hirshe are exactly the papist potato niggers who need to go back. Your entry into this land is a fucking disaster. Notice it is their gay Marxist pope and his boy-fucker priests who want to open our borders and replace the founding WASP population with brown mongrels. Yet here they are blaming "muh puritans." Deport them all.

Blogger Silly But True March 13, 2017 2:24 PM  

RE: King "Can you 'clarify' what you meant?" (i.e. King cucking out)

King: Can I clarify? Yes. I meant what I said.

Blogger Chiva March 13, 2017 2:26 PM  

"But I'm sure that a hispanic USA will be just like a white USA, only a little better."

It surely will be. Just think, in the new Hispanic USA you cannot flush the toilet paper, you must put the toilet paper in the garbage. Just like they do south of the border.

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 2:27 PM  

wheeler and hirshe are exactly the papist potato niggers who need to go back. Your entry into this land is a fucking disaster.

Could we have Maryland?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 2:30 PM  

@praetorian

"It's a defensible narrative. I tend to believe it."

Another way to look at is that you can defensibly frame the same set of historical events from different perspectives. You can do so incorrectly, of course, but more than one can be "right." Abstraction inevitably involves simplication, and choices about what to emphasize, and what to leave out.

To put it another way, when it comes to complex historical events, monocausality is a trap for weak minds.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 2:33 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:So the white liberals are going to force the people of color into accepting "Western Civilization", maybe they should ask the people of color if they even want "Western Civilization."

.


Nope, that is not what they want because, then they would have the same problem they have with whites (assuming they could actually do it). They want a dependent dumb population that is constantly infighting so that they can rule from on high in their gated citadels.

The whole “western civ” thing is just the sales pitch for importing the brown mobs.

Blogger The Sanity Inspector March 13, 2017 2:34 PM  

Common justice compels us to take note of the many exceptions, though. Does this fellow not deserve a place in this great Republic of ours?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY March 13, 2017 2:59 PM  

Laramie Hirsch
I know a surgeon named Hirsch, He's a jew.
Wheeler
Blah, blah, blabbity blah , Muh Poperry, blah, blah , need to finger muh beads, blah etc. etc, etc.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 3:03 PM  

"THERE IS NO MAGIC DIRT"

But there is "Magic Culture" and that's what some refuse to take into account. If your culture consists of your family, community, state, and country. And it does. This is why a 4th generation American hispanic with a family history that hails from Mexico will be a completely different person with completely different attitudes than a Mexican living today in Sinaloa.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 3:05 PM  

Who were those people, which part of the Continent did they come from, why did they move, and how many?
Dude, you handwave a lot. Can you even do facts?


It's a comment box, not an encyclopedia. However, since you are so exquisitely curious, on Infogalactic, you can look up the resettlement of the Jews in England during the 1600s.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Resettlement_of_the_Jews_in_England

Those "Dutch" Jews primarily came from the Low Countries (Netherlands), where they fled to, shortly after being expelled from Spain in the 1400s.

Why did Jews expand outward from the Netherlands? Why not? One phrase should explain why they felt compelled to branch out: The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash March 13, 2017 3:09 PM  

Some Dude wrote:There are more people of scandanavian descent alive in america than hewish descent. America has never been a jewish country. In fact it succeeds by not being like a middle eastern low trust despot ruler society. Blow me asshole.
His dodge is to classify the Puritans and Dissenters as Jews, on account of their Old Testament rhetoric. And since the Puritans of the 16th century have descended to the Unitarians of the 21st, there may be a faint semblance of a rhetorical point. Overall, though, he's talking out his ass.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 3:13 PM  

@82 Ronald

No there is not.

Society is a racial construct.
There is no magic dirt that will transform, say, Somalis and Syrians into lovers, defenders, and disciples of Constitutional republicanism.

Race matters.
Once more…..RACE MATTERS.
In fact, race is the primary source pool of civilization and culture; all other variables are commentary in comparison.

Culture isn’t a costume. It can’t be worn like a Turinic shroud with the expectation that it will reverse-imbue the intrinsic character of any people who happen to hop the border and adopt its most superficial trappings.
Culture is an emergent property of the people that comprise it, who themselves are properties of their genes and of the predispositions and beliefs and behaviors and temperaments and aptitudes with which they are endowed by their genes.

Your Mexican may wear the trappings of an American but is not one. They are an immigrant.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY March 13, 2017 3:15 PM  

Why do some popers feel the need to hijack threads and then get butthurt over the fact that Prots don't give a damn about what they think ?

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash March 13, 2017 3:16 PM  

The Sanity Inspector wrote:Common justice compels us to take note of the many exceptions, though. Does this fellow not deserve a place in this great Republic of ours?
No, he does not deserve a place in our great republic. American is not a thing you earn, it is a thing you are. He's not an American.
Besides, Haiti needs him. Why do you hate Haiti so?
He has to go back.

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 3:20 PM  

Could we have Maryland?

Seems fair. You can't all fit in Vatican City, after all.

Anonymous andon March 13, 2017 3:20 PM  

Why did Jews expand outward from the Netherlands? Why not? One phrase should explain why they felt compelled to branch out: The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit

is this supposed to be a flattering term (cooked up by a jew?) to explain their subversive behaviour?

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 3:20 PM  

Might want to check out how DS ranks on Alexa.

Irrelevant. Alexa doesn't measure traffic.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 3:21 PM  

"The irish mistakenly get lumped in with the later souther euro/jewish/scandy immigration wave."

Well that's easy enough to explain, they were:

a) Peasants (tenant farmers were the only ones directly affected by the not really a famine).
b) Not Protestant Christians.
c) Not white.

You'd pretty much have to be a Chinaman or an Ethiope to be any less American.

Not knocking the Irish, that's just the way it was at the time, and the Irish have given America some good men, from the upper class Protestants.

But then we all know that they were really Scots, now don't we?

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 3:22 PM  

America has been one, big, Jewish colony from the beginning.

Then what were all of the 20th century Jewish immigrants complaining about, exactly?

Anonymous AM March 13, 2017 3:23 PM  

69

Anybody can see that the premises of today's Leftism exist whole and entire in the USA's founding ideals; they have developed as the tree from the acorn. Really, they ecist already in Luther and Protestantism. The Left proceeds by infiltration and incrementalism. The past century has been a period, in which the Left uses its winnowing fan to separate the internal contradictions in Leftism from each other, rejecting as chaff any elements that could succour sanity, and gathering up the wheat of purest madness. It's simply the next phase required by the Leftism already inherent in Classically Liberal thought.

Blogger VD March 13, 2017 3:24 PM  

Zip it, Snidely. I can testify that the overwhelming majority of Protestants genuinely don't give a damn what Catholics do, say, or think about anything theological. We literally don't think about the Roman Catholic Church or its Pope at all.

Anonymous andon March 13, 2017 3:27 PM  

ChivaMarch 13, 2017 2:26 PM
"But I'm sure that a hispanic USA will be just like a white USA, only a little better."

It surely will be. Just think, in the new Hispanic USA you cannot flush the toilet paper, you must put the toilet paper in the garbage. Just like they do south of the border.


i think they also like throwing crap-filled diapers on the side of the road. and in the river

Anonymous Sharrukin March 13, 2017 3:27 PM  

82. Ronald Tines

"THERE IS NO MAGIC DIRT"

But there is "Magic Culture"


No there isn't.

Blacks have been in the US for as long as whites and totally subject to the "magic Culture". They do not speak a word of their former native languages.

It never happened.

A small enough group immersed in a larger cultural group will seem indistinguishable from the dominant group because they lack the numbers to form their own separate culture.

When they do gain that critical mass you start seeing their basic culture emerging with obvious borrowing from the previously dominant culture.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 3:29 PM  

"Your Mexican may wear the trappings of an American but is not one. They are an immigrant."

My 4th Generation Mexican is not an immigrant, but rather the great grandson of an immigrant. And whether there is something intrinsic about him based on his DNA it certainly isn't his ability to adopt 18th century revolutionary vLues or communist values or Zionist values or any other set of values. The wY we know this is that there are so many examples of this being true. More importantly, look at many adoptees who have knowledge of their DNA and who tend to adopt the culture and values of their parents and the community they are surrounded with.

Anonymous andon March 13, 2017 3:36 PM  

Steve King ✔ @SteveKingIA
Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.


not sure why this would bother anyone except those who think they have a right to immigrate to and parasite off white countries.

Blogger Resident Moron™ March 13, 2017 3:36 PM  

"Culture is an emergent property of the people that comprise it, who themselves are properties of their genes and of the predispositions and beliefs and behaviors and temperaments and aptitudes with which they are endowed by their genes."

This is not wrong but strikes me as incomplete. I'm not sure how significant this omission is in this specific context, but I believe it is important.

Culture is an emergent property of the people who comprise it, who themselves are properties of their genes (etc) and their culture, both of which they inherit from their parents.

One of the problems of modern culture is that children are being taught by strangers, by television, and by peers; most of whom are innately hostile to our culture most of the time. It is a deliberate interruption of the natural order of inheritance and thus, continuance, i.e. survival. Their genes are not being replaced in this process, but their culture is.

As Vox notes, we're being cucked.

Not only physically, in the genocidal introduction of alien and hostile genes, but in the similarly genocidal introduction of alien and hostile cultures.

The two are inextricably interlinked and exist in a mutually reinforcing spiral, but are not identical, nor is either one alone sufficient.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 3:36 PM  

@82
But there is "Magic Culture" and that's what some refuse to take into account. If your culture consists of your family, community, state, and country. And it does. This is why a 4th generation American hispanic with a family history that hails from Mexico will be a completely different person with completely different attitudes than a Mexican living today in Sinaloa.

Really? Why is the Hispanic dropout rate so stubborn, even to the 4th generation? This is a problem from California to North Carolina.

Anonymous E. March 13, 2017 3:36 PM  

"It can’t be worn like a Turinic shroud with the expectation that it will reverse-imbue the intrinsic character of any people who happen to hop the border and adopt its most superficial trappings."

Powerful. Americans, it seems to me, conflate immigrants consuming American brands and products with immigrants embracing and adapting to our culture. And of course American corporations don't much care about the difference.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 3:39 PM  

@97 Ronald,

I'm sure we can expect all those vibrant Muslims in Europe to begin acting like proper Europeans sometime around 2097 if your estimates is 4 generations for the magic culture to kick in.

the blacks in america seem to be about 75 years behind the curve if you assume that magic culture kicked in at emancipation.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents March 13, 2017 3:40 PM  

@83 Laramie
It's a comment box, not an encyclopedia. However, since you are so exquisitely curious, on Infogalactic, you can look up the resettlement of the Jews in England during the 1600s.

So Jews were the only people to move from, say, France or central Europe to England in the 17th century?
You and Wheeler's "Judaizer" fetish is pretty old. Consider giving it a rest. Or define what you mean. Start with the Apostle Paul, what did he mean by "Judaizer"?

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 3:43 PM  

fair attribution.... I took my points @85 from Heartiste

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY March 13, 2017 3:44 PM  

Throw TP in the garbage ? Hell, the toss it on the floor.
They also stand away from the urinal and piss all over the floor.
Gawsh, I feel so culturally enriched having these creatures around.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 13, 2017 3:44 PM  

look at many adoptees who have knowledge of their DNA and who tend to adopt the culture and values of their parents and the community they are surrounded with

Speaking as an adoptee, you have zero idea just how stark are the differences noticeable to the adoptee (if they're willing to see them.) There is NOTHING like being an adoptee to bitch-slap you with just how much our beliefs and behaviors are coded by our ancestry.

People are wonderful mimics. Don't mistake mimicry for truth.

Blogger Resident Moron™ March 13, 2017 3:47 PM  

Grayman wrote:...

Isnt that a bit Racist?



I was raised with the notion that we're all equal before the throne of God, so it took me a while to get my head around the simple truth that this doesn't mean we're all equal. It's embarrassing to even admit that this wasn't immediately obvious. All I can say in my defense is that I believed what I was taught by people I trusted.

But it's been my considered opinion for about 20 years now, that we're all racists.

There are only two kinds of people in this regard;

1. racists who know it but don't let it turn them into arseholes

2. racists who know it but make themselves arseholes trying to deny/bury/fight it

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 3:50 PM  

@Grayman: "the blacks in america seem to be about 75 years behind the curve if you assume that magic culture kicked in at emancipation."

Well, to be fair, they were Christianized before that. Well, not really Christianized; if you go back to their early Gospel music (which they got from the Scots) you'll find a complete absence of Jesus.

Shit ton of Moses though. Tell ol' Pharaoh, let my people go.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 3:51 PM  

@97
More importantly, look at many adoptees who have knowledge of their DNA and who tend to adopt the culture and values of their parents and the community they are surrounded with.

Sometimes. Other times those adoptees get into the teenaged years and totally reject everything around them, reverting to their bloodline. Seems to be more common with boys than with girls.

Look, there's 4th and even 5th generation Mexicans living in California and Arizona. Go see for yourself, parts of California are now quite Mexicanized into the third world style. Culture isn't magic, it's emergent.

What will emerge from IQ 90 peasants isn't the same thing as what will emerge from IQ 105 yeomen.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 3:54 PM  

@107 Moron,

I struggled with that as well growing up, the differences were obvious. I'm of the same opinion and consider that "racism" is a survival tool from the historical perspective of the human race.
It is also an intentionally confused term. racism as a differentiation and preference for those of similar race if very different from violence predicated simply on race and the two are intentionally conflated.

Actually I think sub-species is probably a better term than race for humans, but I guess "sub-speciest" isn't as catchy as "racist".

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 3:57 PM  

@92 VD: Then what were all of the 20th century Jewish immigrants complaining about, exactly?

Great question. I ask myself that a lot. We're pretty darned Judaized, so why in the hell is that not good enough for them?

I suppose it's because we American goyyim aren't submissive enough. It's not enough that they control the levers of power, entertainment, news media--let alone our powerful military. They have to further degrade us with division and demoralization. The world is there to serve them, after all. I read a great article from Return of Kings lately that discusses how they utilize interracial pornography to demoralize white gentile: The Hidden Agenda Behind Interracial Pornography

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 13, 2017 4:00 PM  

VD wrote:Could we have Maryland?

Seems fair. You can't all fit in Vatican City, after all.


If you're going to take Maryland, please take it far away?

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 4:01 PM  

"Sometimes. Other times those adoptees get into the teenaged years and totally reject everything around them, reverting to their bloodline. Seems to be more common with boys than with girls."

Data??

Blogger Silly But True March 13, 2017 4:03 PM  

Wearing a belt and suspenders is always against the damn rules. Always. It's just plain stupid: belts hold your pants up; so do suspenders. Therefore you don't need both. It's more than just function too; it turns your body from waist to top of shoulders into an ugly three-sided box, something no one finds appealing - straight or Milo.

So these Christians who put most stock in adhering to the Old Testament Jewish practices just strike as being low trust opportunists. You're not getting saved twice nor are you getting to take a Jewish mulligan if you so fail your Christian faith. You literally are a follower of Judeo-Christ -- something which neither appears in the Old Testament nor the New.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 4:07 PM  

"Really? Why is the Hispanic dropout rate so stubborn, even to the 4th generation? This is a problem from California to North Carolina."

The drop out rate among Hispanics has dropped precipitously in the past few years. In fact, by half. More important, anyone living at the poverty level is 5 times more likely to drop out. Simple math. Not DNA.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 4:07 PM  

@Grayman:

"Race" is about a century older than "species." Race means "people of common descent." Species means "of similar appearance."

A couple of centuries later "species" was adopted as the technical term for types of animal because of the lack of genetic knowledge - animals were classified taxonomically, and because "race" referred to people.

So, linguistically speaking, "race" is actually the more accurate term. Even for animals, since we now classify them by actual genetic descent and not just morphology, which is often deceiving.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 4:08 PM  

@113 Ronald Tines
"Sometimes. Other times those adoptees get into the teenaged years and totally reject everything around them, reverting to their bloodline. Seems to be more common with boys than with girls."

Data??



Sorry, all I have is personal observation. I don't know of any studies. I do know of very sad people who are desperate to keep adopted sons out of prison, and I pray for them regularly.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 4:10 PM  

#70 point well made, Andrew's traffic according to Alexa is better then VD's.

So if that is hard core support for NS then why do their public gatherings gather about 6 people? I mean damn with numbers like that they should be full Nuremburg by now.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 4:10 PM  

@114: "You literally are a follower of Judeo-Christ -- something which neither appears in the Old Testament nor the New."

See Marcion of Sinope.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 4:15 PM  

The drop out rate among Hispanics has dropped precipitously in the past few years. In fact, by half.

In some places. In other places, not so much. Curriculum changes are probably part of that. Dumbing down school so that everyone passes is a short term fix with long term problems. Maybe some of the retention is due to trade-school orientation.

So far your magic culture theory isn't holding up very well.

More important, anyone living at the poverty level is 5 times more likely to drop out. Simple math. Not DNA.

Anyone? So poor Jews in New York in the 1920's were 5 times more likely to drop out of school than poor Irish or Italians in the next block?

Blogger Unknown March 13, 2017 4:15 PM  

You seem to favor pointing at hard truths. So I ask . . . "Do you expect these types of problems to be substantially solved by civil discourse and persuasion?"

Blogger Student in Blue March 13, 2017 4:17 PM  

@Ronald Tines
But there is "Magic Culture" and that's what some refuse to take into account. If your culture consists of your family, community, state, and country. And it does. This is why a 4th generation American hispanic with a family history that hails from Mexico will be a completely different person with completely different attitudes than a Mexican living today in Sinaloa.

No, that's a function of genetic expression. Yes, people with almost the same genes can turn out differently depending on the environment - this does not mean they are tabula rasa, capable of doing everything and anything. Instead certain genes already in you get turned off or on depending on environment.

This is the reason why a Mexican growing up in America has a different culture than one living in the Southern tip of Mexico. This has never, by any means, meant that those of Mexican descent growing up in America have the same culture as generic whitey.

It's just similar enough that you don't notice it at first.

Those kinds of cultural differences only come out when living up close and personal for an extended period of time. Kind of why those like-minded Mexicans-living-in-America tend to live together, huh?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 4:22 PM  

Listen up folks the most valuable real estate upon Earth is that which is next to White people, the most valuable DNA upon Earth is that held by yes you guessed it, White people.

The Left will tell you that if you listen to what they are really saying.

Sorry you sad assed Blank Slaters, you are fucking stoooooopid.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 4:26 PM  

"Anyone? So poor Jews in New York in the 1920's were 5 times more likely to drop out of school than poor Irish or Italians in the next block?"

I don't know about the 1920s. Though I suspect poor jews and poor italians in 1920s New York were five times less likely to even attend high school than middle income Jews and Italians.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 4:27 PM  

@115 Ronald

Still nothing to write home about:(https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=16)

Hispanics still drop out at a higher rate than blacks and that isnt much of an achievement. Further what does a HS deplimo mean any more when you consider the following statements:

New York City’s literacy rates are on the decline: nearly 80 percent of high school graduates lack basic skills like reading, writing and math and are required to relearn them before qualifying for community college.
Critics pointed out that just 13 percent of black and Latino students graduate from New York City schools with the skills required for community college – and overall, 80 percent of all graduates lack these skills
...From RT

and some data for you:
https://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/PDF/2006470_1.PDF

NCLB and the everyone passes mantra of education has removed the meaning / value of a HS diploma. Graduation rate is irrelevant when the pass people despite them not acquired the requisite skills.
A high school diploma is now about as valuable as the plastic soccer trophy every kindergartner gets.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni March 13, 2017 4:28 PM  

Seems like a lot of "Americans" are quite interested in their racial background rather than rejecting the past and getting with the modern post-racial kumbayaness.
From Roots to Ancestry.com to Facebook groups, everyone seems to want to know where they came from. Why?
Makes me wonder how this knowledge will change the behavior of a 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 African, 1/4 Swede, 1/4 Filipino and, according to the sjws,one hundred percent American. Luckily, they're rare. Historically, such mongrels were outcasts, and still are in the sainted Third World peoples.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 4:29 PM  

"No, that's a function of genetic expression. Yes, people with almost the same genes can turn out differently depending on the environment - this does not mean they are tabula rasa, capable of doing everything and anything. Instead certain genes already in you get turned off or on depending on environment.

This is the reason why a Mexican growing up in America has a different culture than one living in the Southern tip of Mexico. This has never, by any means, meant that those of Mexican descent growing up in America have the same culture as generic whitey."

Is the ability of 4th generation genetic whitey and genetic hispanic American different when it comes to understanding natural rights, limited government and private property. Of course not....unless of course you've discovered something about the human genome that nobody else has discovered.

Culture and community.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 4:30 PM  

"Then what were all of the 20th century Jewish immigrants complaining about, exactly?"

That (like every host society ever) it wasn't philosemitic enough. That said, the original statement, even if taken purely figuratively, seems excessively Moldbuggian.

Blogger Howard J. Harrison March 13, 2017 4:30 PM  

King couldn't quite hold. He has wilted, or half-wilted. The pressure from the likes of CNN's Chris Cuomo has just been too much.

Badgering King, Cuomo has gotten him to confess on television that babies of any race, if born and raised in American homes with American values, make equally valuable Americans.

If you asked me, I would afford King some allowance; but, still, at any rate, Steve King, though he may be nearly the best friend European America has in Congress, is apparently not yet the Great White Hope.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 4:35 PM  

Wow, hispanic performanc ein literacy has crashed relative to the rest of the nation


Performance in 2003

Prose: Whites had the highest scores followed by Asians/Pacific Islanders, Blacks, and Hispanics
Document: Whites and Asians/Pacific Islanders had the highest scores followed by Blacks and Hispanics
Quantitative: Whites had the highest scores followed by Asians/Pacific Islanders, and both Blacks and Hispanics


Changes between 1992 and 2003

White Adults
Up 9 points in quantitative

Black Adults
Up 6 points in prose, 8 points in document, and 16 points in quantitative

Hispanic Adults
Down 18 points in prose and 14 points in document
Asian/Pacific Islander Adults
Up 16 points in prose

https://nces.ed.gov/naal/kf_dem_race.asp

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 4:35 PM  

@122: "The Left will tell you that if you listen to what they are really saying."

As I said back before the current era (BSJWsAL), "Always take what they say at face value." Obviously not as the literal truth, but as a reflexion of the truth. They always project.

Blogger Silly But True March 13, 2017 4:37 PM  

@kfg: "See Marcion of Sinope."

Marcion was just phoning in creation of his new cult.

I at least give the creative edge to L. Ron Hubbard for the more interesting backstory and world-building.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 13, 2017 4:38 PM  

@114 "How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants!"

Blogger Shell March 13, 2017 4:41 PM  

Amen

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 4:41 PM  

@126

Is the ability of 4th generation genetic whitey and genetic hispanic American different when it comes to understanding natural rights, limited government and private property.


Yes. Yes, it is. The number of Hispanic Libertarians is so tiny as to be nearly zero. All three parties in Mexico are socialist to some degree and grade from "less" in the north to "mucho" in the south.

The voting patterns of Mexican and other Hispanics is not a secret: it's D, D, D and D. Look at the county by county map from the last election for further evidence. Some parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas are total locks for the D party. Just like some precincts in Detroit and Philadelphia are reliable D's because of the tribal American black voters who live there.

Hispanics tend towards one-party, El Patron-style politics that are not compatible with limited government, and they haven't much of a concept of natural rights. Certainly they don't grasp the Rights of Englishmen that John Adams and Tom Jefferson understood.

Why do you want to live in a one-party country?

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr March 13, 2017 4:41 PM  

I think the Magic Culture discussion ignores the fact that American culture has been under constant attack for the last 50 years.

American nationhood has always been flimsy, there's too much geographic dispersion and repeated waves of immigration for it to be really rock-solid. But between the Civil War and the 1970s, a concerted effort was made to foster a sense of national unity.

That is no longer the case. The Left has been nursing regional and racial hate, planning on profiting thereby.

But the rubes are catching wise...and the price is coming due. One way or another.

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 4:46 PM  

Another one:

Long term reading performance for all races

http://imgur.com/g5Acc5j

data from here:https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/lttdata/report.aspx

the results are exactly what you would expect based on the intelligence trends.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 4:46 PM  

"Marcion was just phoning in creation of his new cult."

A new cult whose raison d'etre was to redact "jewishness" from Christianity. He had reasons for wanting to do that.

The Church declared him heretic and crushed his cult. They had reasons for wanting to do that.

Understanding Marcion is about as important as understanding Paul to understanding Christianity. Particularly with regards to why "The Jewish Question" was baked into the Christian cake from the beginning and isn't going to go away.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 4:46 PM  

#128 look at the bright side the Left is now down to appealing to "values." "Values" have as much value as a used Yugo after a Chicago winter.

"Values" is a meaningless exercise for white libtards to pretend. ( I want all white libtards sold to the highest Muslim bordello owner)

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 4:48 PM  

Addendum: "I at least give the creative edge to L. Ron Hubbard for the more interesting backstory and world-building."

Q.E.D.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 4:51 PM  

@134

But is this a matter of culture or DNA? And if it is, as you say, a matter of DNA, then where in our DNA is this political persuasion identified and expressed? Where on those strands of DNA can we find this?

It seems that this is most certainly a matter of culture. Look at the generation of cubans (hispanics) who were right wingers.

But look at this conclusion from data taken after the 2012 election accumulated by the Gallup Organization:

"According to the poll’s findings, Hispanic voters who are immigrants “say by almost 5-to-1 that the government should do more to solve our country’s problems,” but “among registered Hispanic voters who are the U.S.-born children of immigrants, that ratio narrows to nearly 2-1.”

The poll found that 72% of Hispanics support Obama. However, among Hispanics whose parents were born in the USA, only 58% support Obama."

Culture and Community!

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 4:58 PM  

Seems fair. You can't all fit in Vatican City, after all.

> can't all fit

Bro, do you even irish tenement?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 5:01 PM  

Sumbitch this Tines troll fella is on to something, build that friggin wall make every Hispanic in this country a descendant not an immigrant.

Now I'll bet this troll clown will come back with some magic dirt crap about keeping an open border.

Off topic, I really do think we are at that point where midnight visits to dipsticks like Tine are in order, "he went fishing and was never seen again", "he liked helicopter rides", "who knew he was suicidal."

Blogger Howard J. Harrison March 13, 2017 5:02 PM  

@140

Ronald, that's an interesting point: "The poll found that 72% of Hispanics support Obama. However, among Hispanics whose parents were born in the USA, only 58% support Obama."

I believe as Vox does that culture probably, largely follows race and derives from race. However, U.S. Hispanics do seem to be more culturally assimilable than do U.S. Muslims or U.S. blacks, don't they? Your data are worth note. Thanks.

Blogger praetorian March 13, 2017 5:02 PM  

Wow, hispanic performance in literacy has crashed relative to the rest of the nation

But they are being handed more HS diplomas and I think we can all agree that's what matters.

Checkmate, racists.

Blogger Student in Blue March 13, 2017 5:04 PM  

It seems that this is most certainly a matter of culture. Look at the generation of cubans (hispanics) who were right wingers.

You racist bint.

How dare you imply that Cubans are interchangeable with Mexicans? Do you know nothing about both of those people?

What, are you going to next claim Vietnamese are interchangeable with Indians or English interchangeable with Hungarians?

What an ignorant, racist slob.

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 5:07 PM  

So just a itty bitty question.

What exactly Western Civilization is to you guys?

And how White-ness maintained it?

Obviously you people have different answer that point somewhat in the same direction but I am interested in a more precise answer

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BTW... Yo Snidely... found a job yet?

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 5:12 PM  

@140 Arnold

Individual Politics is largely based on how the core personalty traits are expressed in an individual:
Extraversion:....
Agreeableness: ...
Conscientiousness: ...
Neuroticism: ...
Openness:

a combination of genetics and early childhood are the primary determinants for these, so Culture and Community! NO. Do your own research on that, there is plenty of reading for you.

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 5:12 PM  

@143

it is Probably the Long period of American influence. American Values are more acessible in General to Mexicans, however don't forget that everybody has their own spin about a certain Idea.

For instance... Does Nazism in 1940's German equals American Nazis today?

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 5:12 PM  

"Hispanics do seem to be more culturally assimilable than do U.S. Muslims or U.S. blacks, don't they? Your data are worth note. Thanks"

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "culturally assimilable" when you speak about African Americans. What I do know is that the experience and history of the African American political experience is may degrees different than hispanic Americans.

The experiences and culture of African Americans has been thoroughly integrated into the overall American experience. The treatment of blacks, the continued disparity in wealth and education of blacks and the black culture is at least attached to if not blended into the American experience.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 13, 2017 5:17 PM  

You Blank Slaters do realize we are a product of BREEDING don't you? Admit it and you won't sound so stupid.

Of course now we could hold a purity test where white libtards troll thru trailer parks and ethnic ghettos for mating purposes.

Yes I write the above because being white trash from the hinterlands of flyover country I lust for Rachael Maddow " I must breed with her."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 13, 2017 5:26 PM  

Ronald Tines wrote:Is the ability of 4th generation genetic whitey and genetic hispanic American different when it comes to understanding natural rights, limited government and private property. Of course not....unless of course you've discovered something about the human genome that nobody else has discovered.

Culture and community.

It's not the ability understand, it's the desire and ability to live within it's restrictions and aspirations. Mexicans generally don't want to be Americans. They are proud of being Mexican, they are happy being Mexican. America exists, so far as they are concerned, to extract money from, and to colonize.

Ronald Tines wrote:The experiences and culture of African Americans has been thoroughly integrated into the overall American experience. The treatment of blacks, the continued disparity in wealth and education of blacks and the black culture is at least attached to if not blended into the American experience.
This paragraph has no objective meaning. It merely says "Blacks live in America". No shit, Sherlock.
If you want to talk about Black dysfunction, that's another topic, but the keys are genetic lower intelligence and genetic high aggression. Certainly, Black culture has a lot to do with it, but Black culture is an expression of Black genetics.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 5:41 PM  

@134 Paradigm: "Certainly they don't grasp the Rights of Englishmen that John Adams and Tom Jefferson understood. "

State the Rights of Englishmen.

Blogger Silly But True March 13, 2017 5:46 PM  

@kfg: "He had reasons for wanting to do that... They had reasons for wanting to do that... Understanding Marcion is about as important as..."

Fair enough.

I can't entirely fault Marcion for his attempted excising of the Old from the New.

Rather I find most (fatal) fault with his selected excising of the New from the New; necessity of his reason for trying to do so notwithstanding.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor March 13, 2017 5:51 PM  

@3 With a little bit 'o luck you'll all go back.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 5:57 PM  

@140 Ronald Tines
But is this a matter of culture or DNA? And if it is, as you say, a matter of DNA, then where in our DNA is this political persuasion identified and expressed? Where on those strands of DNA can we find this?

Stop hairsplitting. People knew that blue eyes were genetic and recessive long before DNA was discovered. Unless you want to make Noticing voting patterns illegal?

It seems that this is most certainly a matter of culture. Look at the generation of cubans (hispanics) who were right wingers.

That exception proves my point. The Republican Cubans were
* Exiled from Cuba by Communist force
* Middle class to upper middle class, thus more Spanish genetically

And the effects are fading as the older exiles & their children die off. Thanks for agreeing with me.

But look at this conclusion from data taken after the 2012 election accumulated by the Gallup Organization:

"According to the poll’s findings, Hispanic voters who are immigrants “say by almost 5-to-1 that the government should do more to solve our country’s problems,” but “among registered Hispanic voters who are the U.S.-born children of immigrants, that ratio narrows to nearly 2-1.”


Which proves my point. Thanks.

The poll found that 72% of Hispanics support Obama. However, among Hispanics whose parents were born in the USA, only 58% support Obama."

Which proves my point. Thanks.

Culture and Community!

You should practice saying this: "Viva la Raza" until you get it right.
If you want to live in Mexico, I'm sure Fred Reed will help you to emigrate. Bringing Mexico here isn't a good idea.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 6:04 PM  

@152 Laramie
State the Rights of Englishmen.

Magna Carta wasn't covered in your school? Too bad.
Two sources.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Rights_of_Englishmen

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/magna-carta-muse-and-mentor/rights-of-englishmen-in-british-america.html

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 6:13 PM  

@156 Yes, well, those most certainly are hyperlinks. Now, can you please list those rights?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 6:18 PM  

@157 Laramie
Yes, well, those most certainly are hyperlinks.

Click on them. There's a secret inside.

Now, can you please list those rights?

Already done.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 6:19 PM  

@153 Silly But True: "Rather I find most (fatal) fault with his selected excising of the New from the New . . ."

What he excised was the backstory, not the new. Provenance.

The Church didn't care about alteration of the scriptures. They were excising and adding material themselves, some of it as a response to Marcion. They cared very much about provenance. Without it Christianity would be just some arse pulled, mystical mumbo jumbo. Rather Oriental mumbo jumbo at that.

No provenance going back to the beginning of time - no Christianity.

Anonymous Drose March 13, 2017 6:23 PM  

How could these people not enrich our society?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/landslide-massive-ethopia-garbage-dump-101537342.html

(I thought this was from the Onion when I first saw it, but apparently it's legit! Yikes!)

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 13, 2017 6:24 PM  

"America is not a nation of immigrants. America is a nation of colonists who, along with their descendants, created, built, and nourished America into a great nation, perhaps the greatest the world has ever known. Immigrants came later, and they were for a long while chosen from stock populations that were not too dissimilar from the founding stock of America (African slaves stand as a glaring exception). It was not until relatively recently (1965 onward) that immigrants significantly deviated in numbers and racial congeniality from the historical norm of immigration into America."


Thank you! Someone finally said it!

"Quite simply, the myth of American exceptionalism is just that. American ideals aren’t spread by osmosis into the deep psyches of different races of people; rather, a very specific race of people — White Europeans of primarily Anglo-Celtic-Germanic descent — breathed life into the American ideals, and without them their ideals wither from neglect and misuse in the care of their usurpers."

Mark Steyn hit upon this today guest hosting Limbaugh by saying something along the lines of, "all other 7.6 billion Americans in the world"

"Some cultures really are superior to other cultures. If it were not so, millions of those from the lesser cultures would not be escaping into the homelands of the better cultures."

If most of the Arab cultures really were as good as they claimed, they'd be riding high right now.

We need more of people like King.

"Close the borders, stop the welfare and the dwindling birthrate becomes moot."

@2 Also, end abortion. Problem solved.

"At risk of being labeled a gamma faggot I will say trolls serve a purpose at least to show how silly the word "racist" and its derivatives are. "

@16 That's descriptive, not being a gamma faggot at all brah.

"However, Hispanic is not a nation"

@17 It's how they poof up their numbers when being in non Spanish speaking countries. Everyone hates Mexico. Nicaragua doesn't like those tica bastards in CR. There's the fútbol war. It goes on and on.

@26 I'm 30. Nobody's uttered such words, with regards to be a Member of the House, in my lifetime. Good on him.

"As I have said for years the White Nats drive people away from being white but the Left drives people into being white"

@27 That's exactly what drove me into being white. Had it not been for the Left, I'd still be colorblind and all that jazz.

"Whites being a minority could never be anything to celebrate, though. I noticed you didn't attempt to refute any of the arguments either. "

@37 Though this isn't what you meant, globally we are.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 13, 2017 6:24 PM  

"All I can do is marvel at how rapidly all these things are mounting, and stocks haven't even topped yet."

@59 The crash is going to make the 215 74° drop of Diamondback at King's Island look like a step down the stairs by comparison. My buddy and I in 2014 had the misfortune of being in the second row seats. This video doesn't do a good job but you're left hanging there, looking straight down, for a while as the rest of the train makes its way up.

"One of the things that kills me is when fiction tries having a black Irishman. Or a black Scot."

@65 Or black sirens in The Pirates of the Caribbean Movies or black/Hindu workers in the Industrial Revolution segment during the London Olympic Games in 2012.

"Might want to check out how DS ranks on Alexa..."

@70 Diplomatic Security?

"It surely will be. Just think, in the new Hispanic USA you cannot flush the toilet paper, you must put the toilet paper in the garbage. Just like they do south of the border."

@76 They do that in Ecuador too. Talk about shitty civil engineering.

"Speaking as an adoptee, you have zero idea just how stark are the differences noticeable to the adoptee (if they're willing to see them.) There is NOTHING like being an adoptee to bitch-slap you with just how much our beliefs and behaviors are coded by our ancestry. ").


@106 Kapernick being a fine example of that.

"Look, there's 4th and even 5th generation Mexicans living in California and Arizona. Go see for yourself, parts of California are now quite Mexicanized into the third world style. Culture isn't magic, it's emergent. "

@109 Barstow and Mayfield being fine examples of that. Lived in the former while working as a federal contractor out in NTC land.

"Magna Carta wasn't covered in your school? Too bad.
Two sources."

@156 How many schools cover Paul Bunyan or the Vietnam War? My dad had an RN when I was in undergrad: didn't know a thing about Vietnam (the war

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 6:32 PM  

@158 You cannot list those rights. You can't. Either you can't read, or you can't interpret something you read. List them.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 6:39 PM  

"Stop hairsplitting. People knew that blue eyes were genetic and recessive long before DNA was discovered. Unless you want to make Noticing voting patterns illegal?"

Every pattern you see isn't DNA Related.

What my points above indicate is that culture and community is most certainly a much more accurate way of predicting a person's likelihood of adapting to a particular culture. The 4th generation Mexican American is far more likely to completely integrated into and a working part of the American culture than a Mexican living in Mexico. You think that's because of DNA???

Sell it somewhere else.

Culture and Community.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents March 13, 2017 6:41 PM  

@158 Laramie

You asked for the Rights of Englishmen, I gave them to you from two sources, not just one. If you want to copy/paste text from those sources, go ahead, I won't because it's a waste of combox space. I'm also not going to type all of Locke's Two Treatises on Government in a combox, either. Stop with this Gamma passive-aggressive crap. If you have a point, make it.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 6:44 PM  

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Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 6:45 PM  

Paradigm, I just want us to state these rights, once and for all, so that we can agree on what we are talking about. It's a vague concept so far, and I want it concretely defined once and for all. You can use that definition for your "jumping off point" from that moment forward. But definitions matter. I want to know what are these rights that only white people can live with. It's a big deal, and I'm genuinely curious about this topic. Not trying to be unnecessarily hostile. It's a comment box, so let's comment, is all.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 6:46 PM  

@164 Ronald Tines
"Stop hairsplitting. People knew that blue eyes were genetic and recessive long before DNA was discovered. Unless you want to make Noticing voting patterns illegal?"

Every pattern you see isn't DNA Related.

How do you know?

What my points above indicate is that culture and community is most certainly a much more accurate way of predicting a person's likelihood of adapting to a particular culture.

No, it isn't, because you can't even predict the present conditions. If you were right, then certain counties in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas would not be total lockdowns for the D party. But they are, and you're wrong.


The 4th generation Mexican American is far more likely to completely integrated into and a working part of the American culture than a Mexican living in Mexico.

Dude, multiple people have posted multiple links from multiple sources disproving this statement. You can repeat it all you want, but that won't make it true.

You think that's because of DNA???

Intelligence is inherited. That's DNA. Intelligence drives individual behavior. Individual behavior in a group drives "culture". Why do you hate science? Because it threatens your naive belief in the blank slate?

Sell it somewhere else.
Culture and Community.


Muh tabula rasa, LOL. Why not call it Tabula Raza instead?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 6:48 PM  

@167 Laramie Hirsch

Paradigm, I just want us to state these rights, once and for all, so that we can agree on what we are talking about.

Already done, dude. Deal with it.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 6:48 PM  

"Dude, multiple people have posted multiple links from multiple sources disproving this statement. You can repeat it all you want, but that won't make it true."

And yet not one has been posted that disputes this. Not even one that addresses it. Stop lying. Just make a point with facts. Hell, use metaphor if you think it will help.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 6:55 PM  

@169 Paradigm, you don't know what you're talking about.

Anonymous Jack March 13, 2017 7:07 PM  

Race Matters. The leftist black writer Cornel West made that the title of one of his books back in the 90s. I don't recall anyone throwing a hissy fit about him saying it.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly March 13, 2017 7:07 PM  

There was a time when we Calvinists would come to this blog hoping for the fantastic theological debates where we were told we were all idiots, our positions were assaulted with wonderful logical battles, and were just generally regarded as scum. Being Calvinists, we loved it. Felt like church.

Now we just get called secret Jews. Because.

Oh, what dark days have fallen upon this blog.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 13, 2017 7:11 PM  

@173 Okay, discussion about early American Puritanism is out. Got it. I was mistaken.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 7:16 PM  

@170 Ronald Tines
And yet not one has been posted that disputes this. Not even one that addresses it. Stop lying. Just make a point with facts. Hell, use metaphor if you think it will help.

High school graduation rates and voting patterns. In fact you demonstrated with your own source the very strong preference Hispanics have for the D's. Add in SAT / ACT scores, where Hispanics do better than American blacks but worse than whites consistently.

Your blank slate argument has failed to predict present conditions, that's a dialectical failure. Now you've just been reduced to weak sauce rhetoric. Time to rethink?

Anonymous Grayman March 13, 2017 7:18 PM  

Ronald,

stop being a cuck instigator. The links I posted show your Mexican will statistically never perform at the same level as a Caucasian or asian.

A chihuahua can live side by side with a Labrador retriever but you still wont call the chihuahua a lab and it still won't retrieve a duck from a pond.

Take your pet chihuahua and go home

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 7:18 PM  

@173

It is called... Tribalism. Just di it like me and accept that things change and people are the way they are for their personal reasons.

It is also important to remember that everybody here suffered in the Altar of MultiCulturalism at some point in life, this is where they go to vent out their anger and despise the evil Others! (Some of the Others are indeed Evil)

Forgive them, they are not bad people. (I guess you agree with me XD)

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 7:20 PM  

Oh, what dark days have fallen upon this blog.

Isn't that just what a secret Jew would say? Hmmm?

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 7:23 PM  

HIRSCH here we go the Rights of Englishmen

here we go

I think these are the Rights of Englishmen.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 7:24 PM  

"THE abfolute righs of man, confidered as a free agent, endowed with difcernment to known good from evil, and with power of choofing thofe meafures which appear to him to be moft defirable, are ufually fumed up on one general appellation, and denominated the natural liberty of mankind. This natural liberty confifts properly in a power of acting as one thinks fit, without any reftraint or control, unlefs by the law of nature : being a right inherent in a us by birth, and one of the gifts of God to man at his creation, when he endued him with the faculty of freewill. But every man, when he enters into fociety, gives, up a part of his natural liberty, as the price of fo valuable a purchafe ; and, in confideration of receiving the advantages of mutual commerce, obliges himfelf to conform to thofe laws, which the community has tough proper to eftablifh." -Blackstone

One does not enumerate the Rights of Englishmen. One enumerates their lawful restrictions.

That is why the American Bill of Rights does not enumerate and confer rights. It places restrictions on what the government is permitted to restrict.

In the absence of the question of an obligation to his fellow Englishmen, a crime or a tort, i.e. a wrongful act toward another person or persons, the Right of an Englishman is absolute liberty.

At least in legal theory.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 13, 2017 7:28 PM  

Ronald Tines wrote:culture and community is most certainly a much more accurate way of predicting a person's likelihood of adapting to a particular culture. The 4th generation Mexican American is far more likely to completely integrated into and a working part of the American culture than a Mexican living in Mexico.
Too bad. You have to go back.
If you had come in here and started with, "Well, generally you are right, Mexicans create Mexico wherever they go, but some of us are different", we might have listened. Instead you went with "My 3 previous generations are enough to make me a Real American(tm)" and that won't fly.

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 7:29 PM  

To put it another way:

The reason that the Rights of Englishmen cannot be enumerated is because the principle right of an Englishman is that his rights cannot be enumerated.

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 7:33 PM  

@182 kfg

Maybe there is a way to enumerate: #1 Autonomy.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 13, 2017 7:35 PM  

@183 Eduardo

No, that's not it either. For example, "A man's home is his castle" does not necessarily map to "autonomy". Neither does a "right to be left alone".

Anonymous An Extremely Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than A Basket Of Twenty Deplorable Cents March 13, 2017 7:44 PM  

Eduardo:

The rights of Englishmen are like porn. I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it.

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 7:49 PM  

@184 Twenty Cents

Yeah, you are correct, there is no unifying theory of English rights apparently T_T noooo! My Physics formatted brain can't think outside these strict lines!
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It is very insteresting the Thought behind the English Society, so unique. (Must be Island XD thing)

Anonymous kfg March 13, 2017 7:51 PM  

@Eduardo:

An Englishman on his own property is at liberty. He may hunt his own rabbits without license from or interference by the government.

Here in the beautiful state of New York, I may hunt my own rabbits without license, but not without interference.

Anonymous Eduardo March 13, 2017 7:52 PM  

@185

That

Rights of Englishmen for dummies, Phrase #1:

The rights of Englishmen are like porn. I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it.

Anonymous BBGKB March 13, 2017 7:58 PM  

It's not the ability understand, it's the desire and ability to live within it's restrictions and aspirations. Mexicans generally don't want

I say understanding is part. I coudlnt convince the wetback friends of an ex boyfriend that most people dont steal cars they even thought I was stupider than them. After they said about a wetback shot by a cop for no reason, I said that he was shot stealing a car. They said everyone steals cars, i replied "i dont know anyone who has stolen a car" only for them to laugh because my boyfriend at the time had done so before i meet him.

BTW... Yo Snidely... found a job yet?

Before TRUMP got in you could say you were gay to get a token programer job, just think you woldnt have to work. I knew one govt programer that played WOW all day.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 8:27 PM  

"If you had come in here and started with, "Well, generally you are right, Mexicans create Mexico wherever they go, but some of us are different", we might have listened. Instead you went with "My 3 previous generations are enough to make me a Real American(tm)" and that won't fly."

Of course if flies. All you have to do is look at assimilation of Greeks, Italians, French, German, Poles and all the other immigrant groups. It takes a few generations, but as they progress it's quite clear they readily adopt classical 18th century values.

Further, we see that the longer hispanics are in America (generationally) the more likely they are to be distributed much more equally within the narrow political ideology identified as "American"...devotion to self government, property rights, natural and inherent rights, etc.

Furthermore, take a mexican baby, put him in a conservative home filled with those of Italian ancestry located in a Kansas township and any similarity that child will have with mexicans in 30 years will be purely physical, but not ideological.

Someone above noted that the only true Americans can only be the descendants of the original Englishmen that populated the colonies; that those of other cultures don't have it in their DNA to truly assimilate and adopt the values brought by these people. This idea is so absurd that I find it hard to fathom it would even be a topic of discussion.

Blogger Lazarus March 13, 2017 8:29 PM  

HoosierHillbilly wrote:Now we just get called secret Jews. Because.

Its the Chosen People thing, dude.

Blogger William Meisheid March 13, 2017 8:33 PM  

The magic dirt never worked on Obama. When is President Trump going to rescind his predecessor's first Executive Order - EO 13489 - enacted on January 21, 2009, sealing his vital records?

Blogger spyfox March 13, 2017 8:35 PM  

interesting.
Jews moving to the Dutch lowlands after getting kicked out of Spain

It explains why the orthodox Jew can share his wardrobe with the Anabaptist religions (Amish, Hutterite and Mennonite)

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly March 13, 2017 8:41 PM  

@191

And the beards. Don't forget the beards.

http://babylonbee.com/news/calvin-school-bearded-theology-set-open/

Blogger Lazarus March 13, 2017 8:44 PM  

Ronald Tines wrote:Further, we see that the longer hispanics are in America (generationally) the more likely they are to be distributed much more equally within the narrow political ideology identified as "American"...devotion to self government, property rights, natural and inherent rights, etc.

That should be "limited government" Mexican dude.

Blogger Lazarus March 13, 2017 8:53 PM  

Also, what is "American", and "etc."?

Kinda vague, Cabron

Anonymous basementhomebrewer March 13, 2017 8:56 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Ronald Tines wrote:culture and community is most certainly a much more accurate way of predicting a person's likelihood of adapting to a particular culture. The 4th generation Mexican American is far more likely to completely integrated into and a working part of the American culture than a Mexican living in Mexico.

Too bad. You have to go back.

If you had come in here and started with, "Well, generally you are right, Mexicans create Mexico wherever they go, but some of us are different", we might have listened. Instead you went with "My 3 previous generations are enough to make me a Real American(tm)" and that won't fly.


As Vox has pointed out repeatedly, it always boils down to being all about their circumstances. No amount of data to the contrary will sway them because it is about them personally and they can't separate themselves from the facts.

Blogger Lazarus March 13, 2017 8:57 PM  

HoosierHillbilly wrote:And the beards. Don't forget the beards.

I tried growing a beard like that, but it kept getting caught with stuff in my shirt pocket, like pens and glasses and stuff, so I shaved it back. My bad.

Anonymous Ronald Tines March 13, 2017 9:04 PM  

The magic dirt never worked on Obama. When is President Trump going to rescind his predecessor's first Executive Order - EO 13489 - enacted on January 21, 2009, sealing his vital records?"

I'm guessing about the same time he releases his tax returns.

By the way, Trump is the second president in a row who had immigrant grand parents.

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