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Tuesday, March 14, 2017

The death of civic nationalism


I was interviewed by Brittany Pettibone and Tara McCarthy for their Virtue of the West show, where we discussed civic nationalism, among other things. It's encouraging to see the younger generation is figuring this stuff out so much faster than we GenXers did.

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Anonymous veryfunnyminion March 14, 2017 1:16 PM  

Those are two hot chicks. What were we talking about again? :)

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 March 14, 2017 1:22 PM  

That was a pretty good talk overall. I think you had way more to say about a subject than what either hostess was expecting.

Blogger Bill March 14, 2017 1:24 PM  

To be fair, nobody in the GenXers or Boomer generations was trailblazing back to where the Founders started. We still thought Free Trade meant we would grow corn and exchange it for cheap televisions.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian March 14, 2017 1:27 PM  

Tara did excellent. Vox did ok. Good job Tara.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian March 14, 2017 1:28 PM  

I the funny.

Blogger Gaiseric March 14, 2017 1:59 PM  

veryfunnyminion wrote:Those are two hot chicks. What were we talking about again? :)
The one on the left is an identical twin too, apparently.

Blogger Yollo March 14, 2017 2:04 PM  

Oh, that's who they are. Okay.

Anonymous aviendha March 14, 2017 2:04 PM  

Chicks who think! Awesome job Vox. Next time the questions need to be deeper or more precise so you don't have 20 minutes worth of room to explore it.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2017 2:07 PM  

While the Theocracy's power was inviolable, people had no choice but to embrace anti-racism, LGBTQ.... baloney so Civic Nationalism provided a superficially plausible way for those not blindly zealous to square all those circles.

You could go to college and see how the cream of urban blacks behaved when in large numbers. You could watch the news, see that black, poor, and dysfunctional assorted together, but still accept that with a little more "help," EVERYONE could be suburbanites with good schools, clean streets and manicured lawns.

Frankly, it takes real staying power to still believe the "We Are The World" Civic Nationalism fantasies now with Little Mogadishu in MN, La Raza's reverse conquistadors in FL, TX and CA and one trailer park after another brim full with Mexican and Central American Indians.

Frankly, the whites who still spout this stuff are either politicians, politicians-in-reality (i.e., manage big corporations), relatively well-off people who never get outside their little cloistered convent, blue-haired harpies or the sad sack men who think SJW-ism will get them to 2nd base.

Soon it will be white identity politics on one side and the Leftist zealots (and their totems) on the other. Civic Nationalism is an utterly untenable no-man's-land, and even today, those who stake it out redefine "bitter clingers."

Blogger Nate March 14, 2017 2:07 PM  

Dunno how old they are.. but if you see a difference in the teens of today and the millennials its pretty obvious what is going on. The teens of today are the children of Gen X. Millennials are the children of the Baby boomers.

That's why the latter are far more retarded than the former.

Blogger allyn71 March 14, 2017 2:14 PM  

Dunno how old they are.. but if you see a difference in the teens of today and the millennials its pretty obvious what is going on. The teens of today are the children of Gen X. Millennials are the children of the Baby boomers.

That's why the latter are far more retarded than the former.


+1. I work with millennials and coach HS kids today and they are not the same creatures. The HS kids of today are pretty red-pilled. Their parents are Gen X. Millennials are useless whinny bastards that have bought all the save the world bullshit.

Blogger allyn71 March 14, 2017 2:23 PM  

The other thing you see in this video and with young people today is they are much more willing to listen and consider ideas different than what they have been told. The millenials have a closed mind and are on a mission to remake the world in their image and anything contrary is rejected and shouted down.

I believe it is because they can see the bullshit all around them and they are looking for truth that correlates with what they see happening.

These girls are listening to and considering Vox. If they were millenials they would be arguing with him and talking over him trying to no platform him and pointing out how he is bigoted, hatespeech, and badthinking.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 14, 2017 2:24 PM  

Bill @3: "To be fair, nobody in the GenXers or Boomer generations was trailblazing back to where the Founders started. We still thought Free Trade meant we would grow corn and exchange it for cheap televisions."

In fact, they(we) were going in quite the opposite direction, according to this author:

"In “A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Boomers Betrayed America,” Bruce Cannon Gibney traces many of our nation’s most pressing issues, including climate change and the rising cost of education, back to baby boomers’ idiosyncrasies and enormous political power. Raised in an era of seemingly unending economic prosperity with relatively permissive parents, and the first generation to grow up with a television, baby boomers developed an appetite for consumption and a lack of empathy for future generations that has resulted in unfortunate policy decisions, argues Gibney, who is in his early 40s. (That makes him Generation X.)"

(Trigger warning for overly-sensitive Boomers.)

Blogger Dave March 14, 2017 2:27 PM  

Definitely Millenial. Brittany & her twin sister Nicole are 24. They co-authored a book(s) under the pen name T.S. Pettibone. Watch her first GabTV appearance if you get a chance; she relates how she woke.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2017 2:27 PM  

Kudos for all three people being able to sit/stand in front of cameras for that long and not fidget, look bored or do some other inane action.

I could never....

Anonymous craig March 14, 2017 2:29 PM  

If they're going to keep making these videos, they need to get a reliable lighting setup. Vox's lighting is warmer and has better contrast than either of the hosts; Tara's lighting is altogether flat and cold. Their lighting could be much better, as it is in the video of them I linked on the other thread.

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2017 2:31 PM  

"Millennials are useless whinny bastards that have bought all the save the world bullshit."

They are also now the largest age group demographic, and will remain that way until they start dying from congenital incompetence in mass numbers.

Xers need to stop whining about Boomers still being alive, get on the stick and establish a power base now, or they will be the passed over generation.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 14, 2017 2:34 PM  

allyn71 @12: "These girls are listening to and considering Vox. If they were millenials they would be arguing with him and talking over him trying to no platform him and pointing out how he is bigoted, hatespeech, and badthinking."

Brittany Pettibone was born in 1992. Solid Millenial.

Not sure about McCarthy.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 14, 2017 2:35 PM  

Overly sensitive boomer here.
Armies cannot force an idea whose time has not yet come. When the ship finally, spontaneously turns, I find it hilarious that people blame the prior helmsmen and fete the current ones.

Socionomics will never be popular because it is unthinkable for most people that the symphony of human history has no conductor, and that each stanza is chosen endogenously.

The times pick the leaders. The times pick the policies. The times pick the very beliefs that are popular. All of it is no more controlled or steered than is skirt length or any other fashion or fad. But that won't stop men wearing grass skirts with bones through their nasal septa from beating their human-skin drums to spin the stories of how it was the pagan gods Greenspan, Reagan, FDR, et.al. who steered each epoch, painting each demigod as villain or hero, fool or knave.

Anonymous karsten March 14, 2017 2:41 PM  

"If they're going to keep making these videos, they need to get a reliable lighting setup."

I wish they could set up a proper studio set for their vids. American Renaissance seems to have done that for their last video or two -- a talk-show style studio set with a black background. Very professional looking, real quality. But who wants to watch Jared Taylor?

"Those are two hot chicks."

Remarkably so. I non-ironically hope that they shamelessly exploit their extraordinary beauty to promote nationalist ideas.

Anonymous Pony1 March 14, 2017 2:42 PM  

"Homogenic societies come out of heterogenic ones"

I was struggling with this one at first but the closer I look back at history I begin to see the patterns Vox describes. I just had to push through a idealistic mind set to a more realistic one, coming from Libertarianism.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2017 2:46 PM  

I always assume the younger set that comes out as nationalist has met the diversity, the diversity whom a good portion are halfwitted racial bigots with a license for stupidity.

15-20 minutes good length for an interview.

Blogger Ostar March 14, 2017 2:52 PM  

Civic nations die when they take in large numbers of people who are still tribal in nature.

Blogger Silly But True March 14, 2017 3:01 PM  

Vox, you should adopt the temporary nickname "Hatred" when you appear on the Pettibones' show.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 14, 2017 3:13 PM  

Vox, you should adopt the temporary nickname "Hatred" when you appear on the Pettibones' show.

Good, but not triggering enough.
How about "Hate Red"?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 14, 2017 3:21 PM  

Tara McCarthy's Pizzagate videos are VERY good. Probably the best ones I've seen. She published them on YouTube on her channel, Reality Calls. They were taken down but I think you can catch them on VidMe.

Anonymous Stickwick March 14, 2017 3:22 PM  

karsten: I wish they could set up a proper studio set for their vids. American Renaissance seems to have done that for their last video or two -- a talk-show style studio set with a black background.

Crotchety old conservatives gave Bill Whittle a hard time when he asked for donations to keep his videos going after PJ Media cut him loose. But, as a Hollywood man, he knows the value of spending $$ for good lighting, good video, and good mics.

Two of my favorite YouTubers make enough money from their videos that they built studios in their homes, including green screens for spacey, starry, sci-fi backgrounds -- it looks incredible.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 14, 2017 3:27 PM  

More stars are born, like Milo they are so smart, well spoken and reasonable.

I am so proud of Britt and Tara, carry on the great work, you have major support.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable March 14, 2017 3:29 PM  

Brittany just sold a book. Nice to see them let Vox loose, and nice to see people who have every pragmatic reason to side with the Left taking risks.

Anonymous arw March 14, 2017 3:32 PM  

Definite Millennials. They're more savage in their red pill politics than Gen-X. And Gen-Z are already more right-wing than Millennials. The future belongs to the Hard Right, and Rightist Xers and Millennials are making it happen.

Anonymous arw March 14, 2017 3:34 PM  

The Second Great Depression, the Trump presidency, and the rise of the alt-Right have had a tremendous impact on red-pilling Millennials. Gen-Z have watched and learned from their Xer and Millennial parents, both of whom are farther Right than Boomers ever were. Encouraging news that Leftists are refraining from having kids only compounds the effect.

Blogger lowercaseb March 14, 2017 3:37 PM  

They are figuring it out faster because they didn't have Schoolhouse Rock shoving it down their throats.

It's a shame...as a program it worked, it taught lessons that were remembered, it's just that the lessons were later found to be insidious.

Blogger JohnG March 14, 2017 3:47 PM  

Larry Niven also played around with the idea that in the future everybody interbred, and was a little bit brown.

Anonymous Grayman March 14, 2017 3:49 PM  

Success of the alt-right will rapidly become a self re-enforcing loop. Increasing nationalism and shutting down the immigration invasion will also blow up the debt bomb. That will cause massive eocnomic pain across the board which will only make the nationalistic forces stronger as the pie shrinks and people will have to fight harder for everything they may have.
That will drive an increase in nation, family and neighbor cohesion which will once again only re-enforce nationalistic tendencies. I'd guess that around that time La Raza and the rest of the invaders decide to start getting sporty. White Americans finally respond as there is no longer socioeconomic restraint ( i.e. negative economic impacts on a family for responding force on force). How quickly that escalates depends on how the government responds and how harshly they do so.
Then again perhaps I've read to many books :)

Blogger Matt March 14, 2017 3:51 PM  

Vox looking totally unprepared, wearing NO makeup.

Blogger SirHamster March 14, 2017 3:51 PM  

It's encouraging to see the younger generation is figuring this stuff out so much faster than we GenXers did.

It's been just as helpful to see this all discussed and publicized by blogs like this; to see older folk show what Winning! is.

Blogger Matt March 14, 2017 3:52 PM  

Vox looking totally unprepared, wearing NO makeup.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor March 14, 2017 3:54 PM  

Millennials are highly polarized, with some being some of the most ineffectual losers the world has ever known and others being the backbone of the alt-right.

Blogger Dave March 14, 2017 3:56 PM  

Good show. Interesting tidbit re Dan Brown; had not heard that before. I'd like to hear more discussion between Vox and Brittany about writing and publishing. Vox surely has some tips for Brittany and who knows, maybe Castalia House needs to think about grooming a female editor.

Blogger lowercaseb March 14, 2017 4:00 PM  

Noah B The MacroAggressor wrote:Millennials are highly polarized, with some being some of the most ineffectual losers the world has ever known and others being the backbone of the alt-right.

Lying to children works...for a little while. Lord help you from the ones that figure out the lie later on in life.

It makes me proud to see my fellow Gen-Xers stepping back into the fray in Berkeley, but the Millennials on our side were out there front line giving it all they got. I have nothing but respect for them...not just for their young and energy, but for the fact that they overcame the obscene level of indoctrination that they had since birth.

Anonymous BBGKB March 14, 2017 4:01 PM  

TN sues FED for shitting refusegees on them #SealTheBorder #BanIslam
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/13/tennessee-sues-federal-government-over-refugees/99123670/

Anonymous Jeff March 14, 2017 4:16 PM  

This was a true interview. The ladies didn't interrupt Vox at all, or insert themselves into the conversation. They simply waited patiently until Vox finished his answer, before asking another question.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 14, 2017 4:21 PM  

Clio and Me (by one of my fave authors) to the left of the blog is more ethereal art, just beautiful!

I highly recommend his blog for daily reading.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 14, 2017 4:23 PM  

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Blogger Happy LP9 March 14, 2017 4:26 PM  

42 As both did not interrupt or interject but were more part of listening and engaging with an open mind to reality and to modernity. Both wonderful young ladies are not feminists, feminists always interrupt, assert over men. Neither are F'ists.

When elders and men speak we (women) listen, learn then pose questions, punditry. Hear how kind and polite they are - these are great young ladies! Very Proud of them!

Blogger Student in Blue March 14, 2017 4:35 PM  

@25. A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents
Good, but not triggering enough.
How about "Hate Red"?


Vox isn't the kind of guy who secretly loathes himself.

Y'know, unlike his pantywaist Gamma anklebiters?

Blogger cheddarman March 14, 2017 4:36 PM  

Vox working the Sigma magic

Anonymous Tupakhamon March 14, 2017 4:37 PM  

The girls seem to be genuinely kind, curious & open minded. They are what the liberal-communist feminists envision themselves to be.

Anonymous BBGKB March 14, 2017 4:40 PM  

Since you talked about homeschooling in the interview this is on topic.

Expecting teachers to know how to read is racist because most NY black/brown ones failed English Proficiency test #HBD
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/new-york-drops-racist-literacy-test-for-teachurs-an-outsized-percentage-of-black-and-hispanic-candidates-were-failing-the-test_03142017

"just 46 percent of Hispanic test-takers and 41 percent of black test-takers passed it on the first try"

Anonymous El Rojo March 14, 2017 4:42 PM  

Universal suffrage has been a leading contributor to the downfall of the West.

The Rohdesians actually had a pretty good system.

To simplify:
You had to be 21 years old to vote.

And Either have an income equal to about 80% of the median wage of people who work. Or own outright about 220% the value of the median wage in property.

Naturally those on welfare would be excluded

The average American income for 2015 was about $54,000

Applying the above system would change the US voting block considerably.

Anonymous BBGKB March 14, 2017 4:45 PM  

Anyone in KY shitlibs raiding homeschoolers violate 4th amendment!
http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-12-homeschoolers-under-attack-by-officials-conducting-unannounced-visits.html

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett March 14, 2017 4:59 PM  

Vox,

Good job. A question though...

You used The Troubles as an example, and you explained the problem as Irish vs British instead of Catholic vs Protestant, a point I am glad you made and with which I concur completely.

But, what I found interesting was your use of British. Not English, not Cumberland, just British.

But in discussing America 1.0 you have always distinguished English from Lowland Scot and Cumberland, with the English stock being truly American.

If you ever felt like it, I would like to read you expound on the English/Lowland/German divides in America 1.0 (or a pointer to such previously done I am forgetting.)

Im interested because I am pretty evenly descended in 4 equal portions from colonial English (we're counting Cornish With the English right?) Scotch, German and Indian. I am as American 1.0 as anyone I've ever met, with few exceptions, but I've always found your emphasis on English mores odd. Granted the US government IS certainly a mutation of English mores, but I've always understood you to go farther than that.

Been wrong before though.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis March 14, 2017 5:09 PM  

OT but this could be a big deal: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/13/presidential-executive-order-comprehensive-plan-reorganizing-executive

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2017 5:11 PM  

One use perhaps for CN it seems to smoke out crazy lefties

Anonymous A.B. Prosper March 14, 2017 5:36 PM  

They have ice cold eyes. If things go to hell I almost, almost pity anyone who is stupid enough to get in their way.

Blogger Silly But True March 14, 2017 5:43 PM  

If Winter is coming, Trump's latest EO from yesterday is going to be the Red Wedding.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 14, 2017 5:53 PM  

"Millennials are useless whinny bastards that have bought all the save the world bullshit.'

They are also now the largest age group demographic, and will remain that way until they start dying from congenital incompetence in mass numbers."

@17

This goes to what he was saying during the interview about how there are exceptions. I am one such exception. In the right hands, that save the world bullshit will work to your advantage. My hands are such an example.

@30 & 36 are right. We use a generation are either wimps or the backbone alt Right.

Solid interview, Vox. I like how you pointed out the rhetoric about the Democrats being the real racists is phenomenal rhetoric and utterly useless. It was also pretty funny later in the interview when you said so you were willing to be companions of people who want to kill you. Also, I did not know that you actually beat out Dan Brown over The DaVinci Code.

A list of sanctuary cities via Drudge.

Finally, the two of them are smoking! I think Tara was blushing when you suggested getting married and having kids. If they are smart, they both took it to heart.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 14, 2017 6:47 PM  

Vox and ilk please talk with Lauren Southern? She appeared with Milo and Stefan, she is a wonderful, lovel,y ally, a great lady whom understands the baby boomer syndrome.

Blogger SirHamster March 14, 2017 7:07 PM  

Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair wrote:Finally, the two of them are smoking! I think Tara was blushing when you suggested getting married and having kids. If they are smart, they both took it to heart.

Mildly related, look at their reactions when Vox brought up Alt-Knight Stickman. It's around the 45:00 mark.

A little motivation for the men here to be prepared for courageous action.

Blogger GK Chesterton March 14, 2017 7:10 PM  

When you randomly run into someone on Youtube that is in spitting distance. I recognized the neighborhood they lived in from their promo picture.

Blogger Jew613 March 14, 2017 7:11 PM  

Vox, you made a statement that you don"t understand what the American Jewish elite wants except for Israel to be safe. While the American Jewish elite keeps a public facade of support for Israel as a group they are indifferent or hostile to the Jewish state. They maintain this public face because Jews in general do want Israel to be safe.

What they actually want is to be fully accepted into gentile elite society. Which will never happen as no matter what they do they will always be Jews. Many of their destructive policies come from this goal. They dislike Israel because they find a Jewish state an embarrassment that by its very Jewishness and nationalism makes them as Jews stand out and never attain the elite status they crave.

There are some exceptions and as a rule those members of the elite who are Orthodox do have Israel's protection as a primary goal. It goes without saying this could be better accomplished by their coming home to Israel rather then staying in the USA trying to influence American politics.

Anonymous malcolm March 14, 2017 7:43 PM  

looks like her book is available for free for kindle on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Hatred-Day-Book-ebook/dp/B01AOC3KW8

Anonymous grumblr March 14, 2017 8:55 PM  

Very good talk, lots of really good insights, onya mate. I mean, a great deal of it was a re-summation of things you've been thinking about and speaking about for a very long while, but all the same it was good to have a large body of it lucidly stated in one place. Awesome.

There are all sorts of weird details that I think it would be interesting to debate in finer detail, but I probably won't get around to that. Maybe one or two, if I can manage, but odds are not long on that. Meantime, great job. Keep 'em flying.

Blogger Flyover Pilgrim March 14, 2017 9:36 PM  

The God-Emperor is a Boomer.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) March 14, 2017 9:40 PM  

61. Jew613 March 14, 2017 7:11 PM
They dislike Israel because they find a Jewish state an embarrassment that by its very Jewishness and nationalism makes them as Jews stand out and never attain the elite status they crave.



*facedesk*


count on a Jew to invert the Cause for the Effect.

i've got nothing against you Jew613, but this is one of the most goddamned retarded things i've seen somebody say for a while.

it's NOT the existence of Israel that is an impediment to Jews integrating into a foreign elite. jesus christ, how many thousands of years have you clowns been running around with NO Israel/Judah ... and everybody STILL hated you when your precious little state wasn't there.

they 'stand out as Jews' BECAUSE THEY INSIST ON IDENTIFYING AS JEWS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDV_reO930A

sure, there are some of them with hideous Jew-face that can't be hidden, but most could pass as goy IF THEY WANTED TOO.

tl;dnr -
Jews blames other Jews for the problems the 1st set of Jews created in the first place

typical.

Blogger Lazarus March 14, 2017 9:46 PM  

Flyover Pilgrim wrote:The God-Emperor is a Boomer.

Not only did he not inhale, he did not even think about it. He is what Boomers could have been if they had gone to a military academy instead of a school of Higher Indoctination.

Seriously, if Boomers did not have the access to college that they were sold on as the key to success, they would still be sane, instead of the giant fuckstick generation they are.

I credit my immersion in the working class after being ejected from the halls of higher indoctrination with my subsequent salvation.

Anonymous Wu Ming March 14, 2017 9:58 PM  

Vox, you talk about homeschooling... if I had one wish it would be to have the right to home-school my children.

In my country, Brazil, homeschooling is illegal and you must send your children to school at the age of 4, and the government intends to increase the school day from 4 to 8 hours.

Can you imagine how painful it is for a child with a 140+ IQ being "educated" by often hostile anti-White teachers with an average IQ of 85?
(in my city Whites are less than 1%).

I went through it for 4 hours every day and it pains me to think of my son just sitting there for 8 hours...
(Incidentally this is why I never believed the 10000h theory because I doodled so frgr$%@#!... nvm...)
And of course, the child must still study at home because at school he learned nothing (but propaganda).

"Financial crisis was caused by White people with blue eyes!"
"White people created cancer and AIDS!" - entire class looks at you.
"Whites STOLE all inventions from the Chinese!" - classmates look at you.
Every day.

After 20 years of this kind of education unsurprisingly more than 50% of Brazilian University students are illiterate.

How do you even fight against that? In what way can I pass my culture if my child is taken from me from so early?
I know that genetics will ultimately prevail over indoctrination, but how can you minimize the damage?

Blogger Eric Mueller March 14, 2017 10:02 PM  

Finishing up the interview now. When I first joined Gab.ai, Brittany followed me for a while. I checked; she's unfollowed me at some point. I know she was doing some work on #pizzagate.

Both girls are really cute. I'll have to look for more of their work.

Blogger Lazarus March 14, 2017 10:10 PM  

Wu Ming wrote:I know that genetics will ultimately prevail over indoctrination, but how can you minimize the damage?

You have to escape. there is a municipality in Brazil called Americana, north of Sao Paulo


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/welcome-to-americana-brazil-0000580-v22n2

Blogger Jew613 March 14, 2017 10:17 PM  

Bob, maybe I was unclear. I was talking about the mindset of the American Jewish elite. The way they think, not if Israel actually makes them stand out and prevents their assimilation into gentile elite society.

Of course if they'd change their name from some variation on goldstein to stevens and become Episcopalians. No one would know they're Jewish. But you have to remember that much of what status they have comes from being part of the Jewish elite, a relatively small pond. If they join the gentile elite its a much bigger group to compete against, much harder to attain their current status.

Blogger VD March 14, 2017 10:27 PM  

But you have to remember that much of what status they have comes from being part of the Jewish elite, a relatively small pond. If they join the gentile elite its a much bigger group to compete against, much harder to attain their current status.

It's hard to give up the benefits of in-group nepotism. I don't think US Jewry has even begun to grasp that they're not the high-IQ minority anymore or recognized that the US Chinese are going to eat their lunch and kick them out of the Ivy League in much the same way Mexicans have driven blacks out of South Central.

Blogger Lazarus March 14, 2017 10:32 PM  

VD wrote:Chinese are going to eat their lunch and kick them out of the Ivy League in much the same way Mexicans have driven blacks out of South Central.

They have to go back. Israel beckons. God wills it.Tikkun Judah. Jeremiah says:

God will Restore Israel
…15but, 'As the LORD lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them.' For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers. 16"Behold, I am going to send for many fishermen," declares the LORD, "and they will fish for them; and afterwards I will send for many hunters, and they will hunt them from every mountain and every hill and from the clefts of the rocks. 17"For My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their iniquity concealed from My eyes.…

Anonymous grumblr March 14, 2017 10:37 PM  

"I don't think US Jewry has even begun to grasp that they're not the high-IQ minority anymore or recognized that the US Chinese are going to eat their lunch and kick them out of the Ivy League in much the same way Mexicans have driven blacks out of South Central."

This. Top kek. Except I have to tell you it's not "going to" happen, I am watching it happen right now. (And giggling to myself about it, I must confess.) Film at eleven.

Blogger Lazarus March 14, 2017 10:52 PM  

The new Babel is a counterfeit of the Kingdom of God. It will share the fate of the original. For all we know, the rise of the consciousness of nations is the analogy for the confusions of language that made the difference.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 14, 2017 11:21 PM  

@46 Student in Blue
How about "Hate Red"?

Vox isn't the kind of guy who secretly loathes himself.


That's the common way to read it. There's another way, though, which is why it would be triggering.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) March 14, 2017 11:24 PM  

70. Jew613 March 14, 2017 10:17 PM
Bob, maybe I was unclear. I was talking about the mindset of the American Jewish elite.



i don't really care. the justification is every bit as specious as Jews in the New World or Oceania screeching about MUH HOLOCAUST.

the New World and Oceania et al don't have a damn thing to do with the Holocaust.

and if your brethren would stop being shyster dipshits WHILE posting "I'm a Jew" on their backs, they wouldn't get their dumb asses pogromed all the time.

i just got edified about US Grant's Order #11. you know what set that off?

it wasn't the *existing* black market in cotton, which was almost wholly operated by the Jews ( because there were Jews on both sides of the Civil War, you see. convenient for illegal trading across lines of combat ).

no, it was when Grant's dad showed up.

with a Jew attached to his hip.

trying to bribe his own son to join in on the black market profiteering.
"He came down into Tennessee with a Jew trader that he wanted his son to help, and with whom he was going to share the profits. Grant refused to issue a permit and sent the Jew flying, prohibiting Jews from entering the line."

Anonymous MongoJimmy March 14, 2017 11:33 PM  

Half east Asian here. The Chinks are taking over Manhattan as well, I've heard. Interview was excellent.



Blogger FUCK GOOGLE March 14, 2017 11:48 PM  

Civic nationalists are just future Alt-Right that haven't been mauled by reality enough yet.

Most of the Alt-Right people I know today were libertarians a few years ago. Some of them were even propagandized enough to vote for Obama in 2008.

That's why the Alt-Right is so ascendant - you don't have to convince, persuade or cajole people to get them to join. All that needs to happen is for the veil to be lifted from their eyes. After they finally start seeing reality, they will make the journey.

Anonymous JAG March 14, 2017 11:54 PM  

allyn71 wrote:Dunno how old they are.. but if you see a difference in the teens of today and the millennials its pretty obvious what is going on. The teens of today are the children of Gen X. Millennials are the children of the Baby boomers.

That's why the latter are far more retarded than the former.


+1. I work with millennials and coach HS kids today and they are not the same creatures. The HS kids of today are pretty red-pilled. Their parents are Gen X. Millennials are useless whinny bastards that have bought all the save the world bullshit.


I had mentioned on a previous topic that Michelle Obama is to thank for a lot of the post millennial generation's red pills because she made them eat unpalatable garbage in school with her ridiculous policy. They now know to equate big government solutions with misery and poverty.

Anonymous Tanjil Bren March 15, 2017 12:30 AM  

@ Vox, I just wanted to mention that you're one of the very first people I've ever heard correctly identify the roots of the Northern and Southern Irish conflict.

Blogger Shimshon March 15, 2017 3:06 AM  

@76 "i don't really care. the justification is every bit as specious as Jews in the New World or Oceania screeching about MUH HOLOCAUST."

Bob, just as Vox's 16 points are an observation, so is Jew613's statement. There's no justification. You don't understand the mentality. Going back to Biblical times, Jews were drawn to the nations. The Torah (even the entire Tanach) is replete with references to this inclination and condemnation of it.

The Reform movement, which developed fairly concurrently with Emancipation, from the early 1800s on only made this worse. Assimilated German Jews, who wanted to still maintain some ersatz semblance of being Jewish modified the liturgy to strip out anything too Jewish. "Berlin is the new Jerusalem" became their slogan. They even took to describing themselves as "Germans of the Mosaic persuasion" rather than Jews. They hated Zionism because of the obvious implications of dual loyalty etc. Like Vox and Jew613 pointed out, if they completely assimilated, they would lose their cherished influence altogether. Even someone like Jonah Goldberg, not Jewish in any way, maintains such a facade.

Elitist assimilated Jews of the sort that clung to the Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas proclaimed an interest in Israel's security, but it was all a charade that we here in Israel never bought. They have zero influence here, and not much more among Jews in the exile. They only ever held sway over the gentile elitists among whom they traveled. Amusingly, while President Trump ditched these evildoers, he is still surrounded by Jews. Just Jews of a better caliber (IMHO).

Anonymous james@wpc March 15, 2017 3:17 AM  

Hezakiah said-
"Hezekiah Garrett wrote:You used The Troubles as an example, and you explained the problem as Irish vs British instead of Catholic vs Protestant, a point I am glad you made and with which I concur completely.

But, what I found interesting was your use of British. Not English, not Cumberland, just British".


There were many protestant Scots imported into Northern Ireland by the English to create social tension (amongst other things). So I guess "British" covers both populations.

Yes, the 'religious war' was and is a Red Herring. It's ethnic; the Irish against the Scots with the English stoking the fire with false flag ops (as they do).

Anonymous Anonymous March 15, 2017 3:24 AM  

gavin, was taken to the woodshed.

Blogger Dane Prywatne March 15, 2017 4:47 AM  

That is all OK - civic nationalism does not work, but christian nationalism works as it has an idea to gather people together under common identity.

Blogger American Spartan March 15, 2017 5:47 AM  

Wu Ming wrote:Vox, you talk about homeschooling... if I had one wish it would be to have the right to home-school my children.

In my country, Brazil, homeschooling is illegal and you must send your children to school at the age of 4, and the government intends to increase the school day from 4 to 8 hours.

Can you imagine how painful it is for a child with a 140+ IQ being "educated" by often hostile anti-White teachers with an average IQ of 85?

(in my city Whites are less than 1%).

I went through it for 4 hours every day and it pains me to think of my son just sitting there for 8 hours...

(Incidentally this is why I never believed the 10000h theory because I doodled so frgr$%@#!... nvm...)

And of course, the child must still study at home because at school he learned nothing (but propaganda).

"Financial crisis was caused by White people with blue eyes!"

"White people created cancer and AIDS!" - entire class looks at you.

"Whites STOLE all inventions from the Chinese!" - classmates look at you.

Every day.

After 20 years of this kind of education unsurprisingly more than 50% of Brazilian University students are illiterate.

How do you even fight against that? In what way can I pass my culture if my child is taken from me from so early?

I know that genetics will ultimately prevail over indoctrination, but how can you minimize the damage?


1% white? What the hell happened? Why are you still there, bug out to the south? Is their not that still small town that is more or less Germany in the new world?

"
After 20 years of this kind of education unsurprisingly more than 50% of Brazilian University students are illiterate.
"

I am assume they have "the right" to vote? If so its very clear what your nation is as messed up as it is.

As for passing your culture down to your offspring, pull them out of school, fake their deaths, just move, use internet vids, or just leave the nation.

Genes will ultimately prevail over indoctrination, but how can you minimize the damage? Well some times you have to turn INTO the skid, some times you have to burn down a village to save a nation, or throw some leftists out of helicopters.


"There is a time for peace and talk and reason; and then, at long last, and only with sadness of heart and mournful admission that all your wisdom and words have failed, you must go kill you some motherfuckers and set some of their shit on fire"

Blogger American Spartan March 15, 2017 5:54 AM  

VD wrote:But you have to remember that much of what status they have comes from being part of the Jewish elite, a relatively small pond. If they join the gentile elite its a much bigger group to compete against, much harder to attain their current status.

It's hard to give up the benefits of in-group nepotism. I don't think US Jewry has even begun to grasp that they're not the high-IQ minority anymore or recognized that the US Chinese are going to eat their lunch and kick them out of the Ivy League in much the same way Mexicans have driven blacks out of South Central.


And I have to say Vox, good riddance, let them see how much of a negative damn the Chinese give about their "suffering", I am laughing as they are dethroned, by the very same "diversity" and "mass immigration" they pushed and valued so much. Frankenstein are being hunted by their own monsters..How fitting.

Anonymous Wu Ming March 15, 2017 6:20 AM  

@84 Thanks for the reply

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett March 15, 2017 10:40 AM  

@82. That's so true it goes without saying. Yet, it still leaves the question of why they're all British in Ulster, but not in Virginia.

Anonymous Avalanche March 15, 2017 11:06 AM  

@20 "But who wants to watch Jared Taylor?"

I do! I know you young folks are the front-lines of the Alt Right (and I support that completely). But do not forget the masses (not yet) behind you. Jared is brilliant at reaching (many of) the sleeping Boomers and GenXers. Ever heard the old Chinese martial art saying "Start where the student is"?

Every wing of our fighting forces has a purpose. Jared's purpose is to *lessen* the numbers of our own people who are against us. That is a valid (and maybe a necessary) purpose. It's not YOUR purpose, but it is part of OUR fight!

Jared has been bringing along thousands of folks over the years; that he doesn't, and isn't intending to, deliver fully formed Alt Righters is NOT a negative. Try thinking of him (and the rest of us Alt Right oldsters) as boot camp for the sleeping.

You young folks are winning the meme war, and getting folks to recognize fake news, and energizing (and being!) folks such as Based Stickman: Super! Go for it! But realize, there are lots and lots of older folks who can't do those things; our contribution is different -- but not unnecessary!

No shooting to the right -- and Jared is 100% NOT a target for the Alt Right!

Anonymous Avalanche March 15, 2017 11:22 AM  

@70 "Of course if they'd change their name from some variation on goldstein to stevens and become Episcopalians. No one would know they're Jewish."

Not true! Jews are jews and act like jews no matter what they look like -- or pretend to be!

I used to describe myself (pejoratively) as "having been raised jewish in all but race and religion" -- you couldn't 'come up' on Long Island without that brainwashing! (Unless, as with the God Emperor, your parents protected you from it! Mine were mostly liberal.) So, yes, "israel uber alles," I marched for civil rights, I BELIEVED the only racial difference was skin color... all the liberal crap. (My baptism by fire was 6 yrs active duty in the Navy.)

It may be the case that your "jewdar" has to be honed, but that's doable.

Blogger Mountain Man March 15, 2017 1:07 PM  

Brittany looks sad

Blogger selfyeshua March 15, 2017 2:13 PM  

you guys have the assumption that the Jewish leftists are all about Israel. absolutely wrong!!! just as you have globalist Europeans and globalist Americans, Jews have globalist Jews. they are married to their ideology. they serve in the church of secularism. they hate Israel, they are completely align with the Muslim narrative and are in bed with Muslim jihadies. they don't believe Israel can be a Jewish country because its an Arab land and they push for the complete islamisation of the cradle of the Jewish culture which is in Judea and Jerusalem, (also known as the "occupied territories").

historically the Jewish post national ideology sprung up with the french revolution when the post nationalist Jews wanted to dissolve into the new European ideal where social solidarity comes before religion, and when for the first time, France gave Jews full equal rights. European Jews wanted to be part of the new Europe. however, they had an obstacle - JUDAISM.

Jewish religion has very strict laws that were designs to keep Jews segregated so they can survive in exile. also in Judaism, the promised land is the only land that traditionally Jews dedicated their longing for.

one specific verse from the bible made it very clear for Jews throughout their existence, Numbers Chapter 23 verse 9: " For from the top of the rocks I see him, and from the hills I behold him: lo, it is a people that shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations."

post national European Jews wanted to strip themselves from all these core Jewish traditions because it stood in their way of becoming Europeans, it made them look obscure and suspicious to other Europeans. this inspired post national Jews to develop social theories around unification of people around social ideals rather then religion, because religion is a dividing force. granted, Jews had a major part in it and inspired non Jewish radicals along the way.

to this day those post national Jews despise the Judaism sanctity of language (Hebrew) national borders (holy land),nationality (the chosen people) and of course God. they absolutely hate the concept of Israel that holds all those core values together. and they strive to debunk the biblical prophecy of the eternity of the people of Israel, they want nothing more the Judaism failing its people and their globalist ideals to reign supreme.

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