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Sunday, March 12, 2017

“YOU ARE NO EUROPEANS"

They are not. And they never will be. That's why they have to go back.
I know I said I was going off to play Zelda, and I am. But this statement needs to be spread far and wide. I’m still in disbelief even after watching it. I said I was going to do a wrap-up of the Rotterdam stuff later on this evening, and I still think it deserves its own post. This is a good starter, though. Geert Wilders, the Party for Freedom leader who is running for Prime Minister of the Netherlands on Wednesday, just put Turkey and their dumbass voters on full blast. I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a definitive statement from a politician.

He flat-out tells Turkey they aren’t getting into the Eurpeaon Union and that they only have themselves to blame after voting in an Islamic thug like Erdogan.

Wilders was speaking in response to last night's Turkish riots in Rotterdam.
Hundreds of pro-Turkey protesters scuffled with police as authorities tried to end a demonstration at the Turkish consulate in Rotterdam, where a Turkish minister fruitlessly tried to enter the compound. At one stage, protesters were throwing bottles and mobbing police vehicles as they moved away from the consulate in central Rotterdam. But soon, police charged on horseback and moved forward with batons wielding. 
It's time for the God-Emperor to tell the 80 million post-1965 Not Americans the same thing. They are not Americans and they never will be. America desperately needs its own Reconquista while Europe launches its version 2.0.

600,000 Mexicans were stripped of their US citizenship and deported by President Eisenhower. So don't even try to claim it's not possible or that it's not Constitutional. It is possible, it is legal, it is Constitutional, and there is legal precedent for both naturalized and natural-born citizens. And most of all, it is absolutely necessary for the survival of the USA, the American people, and Western civilization.

You may not like to hear that. But history clearly dictates that the two most likely alternatives are a) continent-wide war or b) the end of Western civilization.


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Blogger ZhukovG March 12, 2017 8:16 AM  

Unfortunately we have almost, if not in fact, run out of time for a peaceful solution. We are on a knife edge. A single event can set off what will likely be a bloody and protracted civil war.

The very likely victory of Nationalists, in such a conflict, is cold comfort when one considers how it didn't have to be this way.

But I, like so many others, believed a litany of falsehoods. Looking back at how I once believed equality was a thing, and that the USA was the exceptional proposition nation; I feel a fool.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 8:18 AM  

Looking back at how I once believed equality was a thing, and that the USA was the exceptional proposition nation; I feel a fool.

You were. So was I. So what? All that matters is what we do once we recognize the truth of things.

Blogger ZhukovG March 12, 2017 8:25 AM  

@VD: Agreed, I am meeting with some folks later today to discuss the current situation. Hopefully a few more folks will align with the Alt-Right.

Blogger Yarnwinder March 12, 2017 8:35 AM  

I was going to ask why Europe doesn't arm itself. Now it looks as if the US must steel itself to use the arms it has. If Trump starts stripping citizenship, the Left is going to go nuts.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 8:51 AM  

I was going to ask why Europe doesn't arm itself.

The top military officer in Switzerland has told its citizens to gun up in preparation for war. Has any US general done as much?

Europeans are burning and firing on refugee camps everywhere from Norway to Italy. What are Americans doing to resist the invasion?

Anonymous Mark Auld March 12, 2017 8:52 AM  

They will have no choice, civil war is black vs.white.If in doubt,just shoot left.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 12, 2017 9:04 AM  

But but but Magic Dirt! I love (no homo) Wilders.

Blogger Unknown March 12, 2017 9:06 AM  

@Mark Auld
Honestly, if war did come I thought that Whites and American blacks would be able work together to rid the U.S of Hispanics, and then try to work out some separation agreement between each other. Let's face it, blacks can bemoan white hegemony all they want, but they'd choose that over being ruled by Mexicans any day of the week.

Blogger Salt March 12, 2017 9:08 AM  

VD wrote:Europeans are burning and firing on refugee camps everywhere from Norway to Italy.

According to the dark state news here, what little there is, those refugees are peaceful, law abiding immigrants.

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 12, 2017 9:08 AM  

Let the Reconquista of the entire West begin! Please, G-d, let it be so!

Oban and Geet. I hope both men receive the accolades they deserve in the future West, purified of it's disorder and degeneracy.

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 12, 2017 9:12 AM  

USA needs people to highlight La Raza. Jorge Ramos hinted at it and got into the Internet. But what many americans need to see is how many of the immigrants agree with la Raza, just like how many Muslims agree with ISIS. Highlight their crimes, racist driven or not, and people will start to turn.

I think part of the issue is Islam is seen as the big bugaboo here in the USA and the other Anglophone countries. So we don't see the major danger coming from our other immigrants that have a lower media profile, such as Mexicans or the Chinese.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora March 12, 2017 9:13 AM  

I imagine the Americans who want to resist already have a shit load of guns and live in rural areas where the invasion is less of a problem. It's pretty obvious the US isn't 1 or 50 states, and each area varies. Who knows, maybe the urban areas will burn themselves out when welfare stops coming in.

It will take time for the American mythos to evaporate. Mostly this means my generation growing up and replacing the boomers who still seemingly believe the cops are good and America is special. It'll take a few decades or a cataclysm.

Blogger Johnny March 12, 2017 9:19 AM  

What makes me a little crazy is how predictable this all is. Currently we can watch the rhetoric harden over time. Eventually all the European countries will have a 'Wilders', and the longer it takes the nastier it will be.

By my lights the best would be to sort through populations and take who you want on an opportunistic basis, but that does not seem to be possible. All or nothing is the way it plays out.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 12, 2017 9:26 AM  

Ergodan (Europe's "half savage") is a precious resource, peace be upon him and may he never shut up (at least while he is useful).

Anonymous BBGKB March 12, 2017 9:31 AM  

Looking back at how I once believed equality was a thing

Imagine how i felt when i realized gay rights were tied to blacks being equal

Anonymous Grayman March 12, 2017 9:33 AM  

Almost???? The time is long past. Look at the statements coming out of BLM out of LA Raza and the public figures representin them, claiming America is there's.
The only question is who kicks off the festivities. No one will come out of it with the moral high ground, all will have have blood on there hands.

Anonymous Grayman March 12, 2017 9:37 AM  

The head of french security services has publicly warned that civil war is coming to france.... that seems like a pretty obvious heads up.
The non urban areas of France are similiar to the US in that they are conservative and don't buy the multicultural scam.

Anonymous Garrulus March 12, 2017 9:39 AM  

This was great tv, in the night they sent special forces to raid the ministers armored convoy, and she was removed from her vehicle loudly cursing. And she and her column were deported back to germany under police escort.

This whole thing is an election stunt by the liberal (merchants) VVD and labour PVDA coalition. I really hope this backfires right in their face and turkey plays hardball power politics forcing the coalition to make apologies.

Rotterdam has moroccan labour mayor, who called turkeys nazi fascist labeling an insult because "our" town was bombarded and leveled in the war by the nazis.

This further "nazi" inflation is very good for the alt light PVV and FvD parties. Hail victory.

Blogger Soothsayer March 12, 2017 9:42 AM  

The Trump Effect on Leftist Journalists.
For the first time that I can remember a member of the leftist PC state-employed journalistic elite went into the east side of Oslo to see what was happening there. Immigrants of what they term “non-western-origin” are the majority there. The majority of these are unemployed and living on welfare. The majority of their children drop out of school and do not complete an education. The police seldom visit these areas, and as one of the criminals that were interviewed said “we have our own laws here and the gangs are the enforcers”. Children as young as 10 sell narcotics and 15 year olds carry loaded pistols. Gang members are armed with every concievable weapon. Violence, vandalism, robbery and rape are the norm, and most of the victims are Norwegian. Norwegian girls are fair game as immigrant fathers tend to come at them with knives if their daughter is dishonoured. The only Norwegian interviewed was a leftist politician, the rest were masked gang members.
The conclusion of the journalist and his staff is; that more has to be done to ensure integration, to help them get jobs and not drop out of school. The glaringly obvious conclusion should have been, and is, that these non-western-immigrants are an economic and cultural burden. That most of them cannot be integrated, and that they are responsible for most of the crime. The solution is not more integration effort and expense, but to develope repatriation schemes that enable these undesirables to be returned to their homelands.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 12, 2017 9:43 AM  

I think it's important to remember that, for all of the social engineering of the early post-WW2 period, everyone kind of self-segregated again. Mindful that they use different terms for it now, but that was the exact process that got going.

Actually, depending on how you define it, the most segregated sections of the country vote Left. Which makes sense on the assumption that the groups with high borders around "their" area are going to want to keep piece by paying off the lower ranks.

Anonymous Grayman March 12, 2017 9:44 AM  

Consider that 5 to 10 men who did a little research and we're motivated could shutdown power and water to NYC.
This will be nonlinear warfare and it's very difficult to seriously impact the rural areas anywhere near the degree to which the rural areas can trivially turn the major cities into a real version of a zombie apocolypse.

Look at what Katrina did to social order in New Orleans. Then realize a few dozen men against any given urban area can achieve close to those same results with planning and determibation.
Who lives in the cities...... where are the "liberal islands"???

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni March 12, 2017 9:49 AM  

The sequence of events IS predictable, #12. Next, the millions of Dutchmen living on welfare in Turkey will riot, demanding rights for Christians. Oh, wait.

Blogger LateIntoTheFray March 12, 2017 9:52 AM  

Love Wilders, need someone with balls that big here. On the war front, Drudge just had that the ACLU is getting on board. Any guesses as to which side?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACLU_RESISTANCE_TRAINING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-11-12-03-42

Anonymous doogle March 12, 2017 10:02 AM  

I used to be for open borders but slowly started to change my mind when my wife, who is "een Nederlanse" expressed concern about the effects immigration in Holland. Over time I started to realize that that forcing citizens to pay for immigrants (not to mention all the other insane statist schemes) violates the non-aggression principle and so is clearly immoral.

We are hoping for a big win for Wilders. Quite a few of my wife's cousins in Holland are PVV supporters as well.

Time to take Europe back...

Anonymous BBGKB March 12, 2017 10:13 AM  

Survivalblog posted the evacuation plan for Protestant whites in South Africa https://suidlanders.org/our-emergency-plan/ , in it they have:

Why not go to Europe?
Genuine war refugees fleeing the conflict in the Ukraine have been denied asylum in Germany in 95% of cases (and will, from now on, all be refused that status)—while Angela Merkel’s government admits hundreds of thousands of “war refugees” from all over the non-white Middle East without question.

Consider that 5 to 10 men who did a little research and

one person tossing out a few boxes of thumb tacks along the loop around DieVerse Cities could shut down traffic in/out for days. No trucks would be able to deliver gibbsmedats

OT: UN now with more Euthanasia & wealth redistribution, can't have those whites holding on to property & voting while Shitivious Cook depends on welfare.
http://canadafreepress.com/print_friendly/now-pushing-u.n.-agenda-2030-with-social-engineering-of-the-elderly

BTW thats an actual person http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2011/09/is-shitavious-j-cook-cold-blooded.html one of these days i will have to scan in Latrina's newspaper clipping

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 12, 2017 10:14 AM  

The Turks are in an odd position. They don't really know what they are except that they are Turks.

Asia Minor has been the cross roads of the human race for so long it's hard for them to just pick one identity and stick with it.

Although I suspect the biggest attraction for Turkey isn't access to the rest of Europe as it is dumping the Turkish Lira in exchange for the Euro. Historically the TL has been battling it out with the Romanian Leu for the title of World's Most Worthless currency.

And that is the real reason that Brussels won't let the Turks in. It would the Greece Crisis on steroids.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl March 12, 2017 10:18 AM  

At least Dutch cops actually do something, unlike the Swedes and Germans...

Blogger John rockwell March 12, 2017 10:21 AM  

When the immigration is solved the next step is addressing the issues that made the migrant invasion possible.

Migrant invasions would not be possible without the civilization having fundamental issues that is causing it to destruct.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 12, 2017 10:48 AM  

I think part of the issue is Islam is seen as the big bugaboo here in the USA and the other Anglophone countries. So we don't see the major danger coming from our other immigrants that have a lower media profile, such as Mexicans or the Chinese.

@10 Durandel Almiras
Or else it's a testament to just how toxic that religion is. I'm sure if the Mexicans and Central Americans were Muslim, that we'd be in full five-alarm fire mode right now.

Blogger Some Dude March 12, 2017 10:51 AM  

Wilders very strong here. I haven't even seen Trump be this explicitly race aware in speech.

As for Turkey, they are plainly not European. Russia is more European than Turkey. America pre 1965 is more European than Turkey. Turkey is just another zionist collectivisation effort to turn their host into a sinkhole that can't fight back against a small racial minority of 1% controlling the 99%. Anytime that happens historically there is wars. This EU/Amerika Del Norte scheme is to prevent pogroms....but its doing the opposite....

Blogger Yarnwinder March 12, 2017 10:58 AM  

@5 Vox, Switzerland has it right. They have always required that their citizens have guns and know how to use them.

As for the rest of Europe, that is where the US will be in 10 years if something doesn't change. Like Merkel, we have been saying "Come on in, the welfare is fine!" This attracts the jail sweepings of every country worldwide.

US citizens might have guns, but we are not organized. I think Mr. Trump's election is the last chance we have to fix things peacefully. If that doesn't work out, I do believe there will be war.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 12, 2017 11:01 AM  

Reason does not guide human social behavior (including politics & government policies.)

Emotion determines belief, and belief in turn decides ideas that dominate.

Before emotion, however, is social mood's compulsion to fit into the herd, and social mood rises and falls without any input from events or the outside world. This is the aspect of the hypothesis that confounds most people. This is why on the whole, individuals are powerless to escape the compulsion to act even in openly self-destructive ways.

The seed of change is planted & appears to be sprouting. Until all sectors are aligned to the downside, however, inertia will exhibit in the slower to change elements of society, i.e., politics & law.

Once stocks join bonds in an evolving bear market we will begin to see overt change in social action. Attacks on invaders will be catalyzed by invader crime and attempts to excuse or hide it.

Before, "misbehavior" was tolerated and excused. Once the long-awaited bear market in social mood is firing on all cylinders, misbehavior (including unwelcomed presence) will meet with spontaneous, violent punishment. We will all feel the urge, and it will be irresistible.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 12, 2017 11:06 AM  

On a percentage basis, the USA is way worse off compared to Europe. Also in Europe's favor is ethnic solidarity. Take away the temporary blindness of the Leftist Theocracy and the French know who's French, Germans know who are German, etc.

Citizens of the USA have no such clear delineations. White is nowhere near the cohesive glue enjoyed by every European.

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 11:16 AM  

Durandel Almiras wrote:I think part of the issue is Islam is seen as the big bugaboo here in the USA and the other Anglophone countries. So we don't see the major danger coming from our other immigrants that have a lower media profile, such as Mexicans or the Chinese.

Islam is a problem in US for the same reason that it is a problem in EU and everywhere else: It's not a religion but rather an ideology.

The left knows this but uses the lack of knowledge about the true nature of Islam as cover for their agenda.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 12, 2017 11:20 AM  

How many of these are hoaxes, no one knows, but they're burning down nonetheless.

http://resistancereport.com/news/trump-silent-fourth-mosque-burns-seven-weeks/

Blogger tz March 12, 2017 11:23 AM  

Not just Eisenhower, Hoover and FDR and as many

Blogger tz March 12, 2017 11:27 AM  

The reason for the lack of resistance is we are separated. Not as much proximity. There are no little mexicos or honduras in the rural white towns.

Then again, there is the H1Bs shot in Olathe, KS where Garmin is. So there isn't that kind of proximity. It will first be between Latinos, blacks, and Asians.

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 11:31 AM  

tz wrote:The reason for the lack of resistance is we are separated. Not as much proximity. There are no little mexicos or honduras in the rural white towns.

Then again, there is the H1Bs shot in Olathe, KS where Garmin is. So there isn't that kind of proximity. It will first be between Latinos, blacks, and Asians.


I don't know, I think it depends more on what catalyst is triggered first. Race riot because of immigrant deportation back to MX or will it be the first suicide bombing in US in a major population center?

Anonymous JI March 12, 2017 11:31 AM  

Why stop at the 80-million post-1965? What about all those Ellis Island immigrants and their descendants who have not assimilated to the views of the founders? What about Jews who's families have been in the US since far before 1965? Clearly, these people fall into the non-American category. Americans are those who are descended from one or more of the northwest Protestant British/European groups who were in what is now the USA in the year 1776. Everyone else is a non-American.

Blogger Elocutioner March 12, 2017 11:39 AM  

"What makes me a little crazy is how predictable this all is."

-The Tea Party materialized in response to the financial crisis.
-The GOPe did it's damnedest to usurp the TP organizations.
-Obama's IRS went after the TP orgs at the direction of Eric Holder's DOJ.
-The Republicans in Congress investigating this turn a blind eye.
-No budget signed since Sept 2007.
-EVERY year since has assumes TARP+ as a baseline.
-The bailout went to the banks (domestic and foreign)
-Debt went from like $12T to $20T

The oligarchs are NOT stupid, they saw this coming. The Tea Party was a signal to move to the next phase of the plan. The rise of nationalism was an inevitable pendulum swing. In 2008 they drastically accelerated their looting of the treasury and everything they do now is a delaying action to continue extracting.

All of their puppets in gov't are expendable, all of their masked have slipped and they've been exposed for the frauds they are. For example, the House Freedom Caucus voted for Paul Ryan who gave us the omnibus spending then a few months later he gets a standing ovation at CPAC.

They don't work for us. They never have. Congress is nothing but paid actors. Sessions may have been the only honest man in the bunch.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 11:40 AM  

Why stop at the 80-million post-1965?

Who said anything about stopping. That's the minimum required for avoiding secession, civil war, and collapse.

Anonymous Rocklea March 12, 2017 12:02 PM  

Great video, blunt, to the point and in english.

Blogger Jose March 12, 2017 12:05 PM  

VD wrote:The top military officer in Switzerland has told its citizens to gun up in preparation for war. Has any US general done as much?

As I'm sure you know, Switzerland has a very proactive attitude regarding its citizens militia. Apparently they haven't heard that guns are dangerous for the general public, since they allow-- no, mandate weapons training for all males at college age and from then till 45 these males store government-owned, military-grade weapons in their homes.

On an unrelated matter, after a division of Wehrmacht sent as a probe to Switzerland disappeared without a trace (and without a comment from Bern), Germany decided to respect swiss neutrality. Complete coincidence, I'm sure.

Blogger class A surfacing March 12, 2017 12:33 PM  

Well, that would do me in! Back to Jordan with my family and me. My parents came over in the early 60's to be Americans. I was born in Detroit. I really don't speak Arabic. I'm a red neck at heart. I would die for my country.

We are Catholic and truth be told my all female, except me, family are more religious than I but they are pope fans as well as Trump fans. The dissonance is striking.

Knowing what I know I don't blame you for your thoughts on this in this manner. As I said I would die for America but if being deported happens it's a lot less bloody and I could potentially get back in.

Vox, if you care to know more about me search for my name as listed on this post. It's my company name and my YouTube channel name. I'm open to discuss issues related to being first born generation in American to legal parents as well as what being an American means to people like me.

Anonymous WeAreTheWest March 12, 2017 1:01 PM  

An ounce of deportation is worth a megaton of cure.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 1:03 PM  

Knowing what I know I don't blame you for your thoughts on this in this manner. As I said I would die for America but if being deported happens it's a lot less bloody and I could potentially get back in.

If you're willing to die for America, then you should certainly be willing to go back in order to save America.

Which logic renders the claims of so many who claim to love America to be entirely false.

Blogger Quilp March 12, 2017 1:15 PM  

Damn, when can we honor this man with a Parade here in the US?

Anonymous trogs March 12, 2017 1:20 PM  

The fire rises!

Blogger Jonathan Wales March 12, 2017 1:27 PM  

If Turkey enters the EU it is game over. A revolving door between Europe and the middle east. Thank God the UK voted for Brexit. Article 50 cannot come soon enough. Hopefully next week.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 1:30 PM  

Where did you read the figure of 600,000 US citizens being stripped of their citizenship? Seems, shall we say, a tad high to me.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 1:38 PM  

"If you're willing to die for America, then you should certainly be willing to go back in order to save America."

That's _a_ way to look at it. It isn't the only way. Moreover, from the POV of the citizen of Latin descent, or the newly minted US citizen, there are two concepts of "America" at work and in opposition. It's perfectly logical for one of them to say, "I am willing to die for the America that I know. Your other America, however, I do not know, do not care about, and see no reason to care about. It is not my America. I might fight against it but it would be silly to fight, or leave, for it." There is no logical conflict there. Indeed, it's no more illogical for them than it would be for us to say, "The America your presence is creating is not our America. We would not fight for it. We would not die for it. We would fight and, needs be, die, to get you out to restore our America." Neither of those positions are mine, but they're both internally consistent.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 1:39 PM  

Where did you read the figure of 600,000 US citizens being stripped of their citizenship? Seems, shall we say, a tad high to me.

Operation Wetback was launched just as the racial underpinnings of our immigration policies began to be removed. Two years earlier, in 1952, our immigration laws had been changed so that, for the first time since our nation’s founding, being white was not a legal prerequisite for naturalization.

It's probably too high, because the 1.1 to 1.5 million deportations include repeats. But I read that 60 percent of the deportees were U.S. citizens; there doesn't seem to be any conclusive documentation except general agreement that more than a few deportees were citizens.

Anonymous badhairday March 12, 2017 1:40 PM  

The EU is presently paying Turkey to hold back the next wave of middle eastern immigration until after the upcoming elections. Part of the deal includes free movement within the EU for all Turks. (Including those two boys who cut the ears of a dog for fun)

I would suggest that this is a deliberate attempt to fool Europeans into believing that everything is under control. At least until the elections are over...

Could you all take a few minutes to pass this information on to anyone who will listen. Not only is it a tacit admition that the heads of the EU know that immigration is a disaster its a great way to point out to our moderate and left-leaning friends that they are being used.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 1:43 PM  

It's perfectly logical for one of them to say, "I am willing to die for the America that I know. Your other America, however, I do not know, do not care about, and see no reason to care about. It is not my America. I might fight against it but it would be silly to fight, or leave, for it."

That's not logical at all. It is, to the contrary, total illogic. As per Aristotle, X can never be Not-X. Whatever it is that they love, if it is not America, then it is not America. They can call it America. They can call it Gay Marriage. They can call it Mexico North. But whatever they call it, it is not America.

Which, of course, is why I describe them as "Not Americans", which is more correct than the media's favored term "New Americans".

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 1:49 PM  

Here we are. My mistake; the estimate was 1.2 million US citizens and it was during the earlier Hoover deportations, not the later operation under Eisenhower.

Remembering California's 'Repatriation Program'
January 2, 200612:00 AM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

State Sen. DUNN: That's a great understatement, Melissa. Repatriation is, in fact, a misnomer. That was the label put on this program by the Hoover administration starting back in 1930 and 1931. In essence, their theory was, `We're going to repatriate those born here in the United States but of Mexican descent back to their, quote, "mother,"' end quote, `country.' That was their words, not mine. And it was a misnomer because the vast majority of those that were illegally deported under this program were born and raised right here in the United States. And the numbers actually, Melissa, if I may for just a moment, are staggering. Almost two million individuals were illegally deported to Mexico, and it's estimated that almost 60 percent or more of those two million were actually United States citizens born right here in the United States.

Anonymous JI March 12, 2017 1:49 PM  

Native-Americans and African-Americans don't really have anywhere to go. I think African-Americans should be given basically the same deal as the Indians. Give them lands with their own governance, plus supplemental food, housing and medical aid, and a monthly check. But for both the Native-Americans and the African-Americans, modify the deal such that they only get the check and other assistance if they stay on their reservations. If they leave, then give them the same deal I get - nothing. No affirmative action, no special treatment, just equal justice before the law.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 1:54 PM  

No, no, no. It's not an X, not X issue. It's a seeing X as Z and seeing X as W, issue. X is not being not X, X is denying - and they have no reason whatsoever to accept your definition of X; indeed, it would be quite illogical for them to - that they are not X or that you have the right and authority to define what X is.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 1:57 PM  

Mmmm...California's chief industry is apologizing. I wouldn't necessarily take their word, nor that of any Dem Politician, that those numbers are valid. I suspect conflation of citizens (because, to a Californian everyone is a citizen who will reliably vote democratic if given half a chance, whether living or not), legal residents, and illegal residents. Otherwise, even back then, our courts would _still_ be dealing with a massive backlog of cases from the 1930s.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 2:04 PM  

"...more than a few." Wiki, which would, if anything, claim high numbers, instead claims a few hundred. That, too, strikes me as off, though very low. Personal suspicion is that the numbers are not more than a few to twenty thousand. Anything outside of that and we'd still be getting sued.

Hmmm...given the way the left operates, largely undemocratically, via the courts, the large numbers claimed may be an effort to open the door to massive suits to open yet another door to instant citizenship for, oh, 1.5 million, x 4 generations of doubling, so call it a nice, or not so nice, round, 24 million eventual instant citizens.

Blogger Joe Keenan March 12, 2017 2:07 PM  

If everyone is to be exported back to their place of origin, excepting descendants of the Protestant settlers, this opens up a real can of worms as those Protestant settlers did not settle Florida, the Louisiana Territory, or the lands west of that. Those lands were settled by Catholic Spain, and Catholic France. If I gotta go, all you heretics gotta leave the Catholic lands. It seems only fair.

Blogger Joe Keenan March 12, 2017 2:10 PM  

And get out of Maryland while yer at it!

Blogger APL March 12, 2017 2:19 PM  

Joe Keenan: "Those lands were settled by Catholic Spain, and Catholic France. If I gotta go "

Possession is nine tenths of the law. Which is why it's foolish to allow minorities to become the majority in significant areas of territory.

Louisiana was ceded to the US by France in 1803, Florida from Spain in 1819 and Alaska was purchased from the Russians in 1867, all three transactions were legal transfers of ownership.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 2:21 PM  

Personally, Joe, I can't see the logic of turning America over to the Protestant-British descendants of the people who fucked up us in the first place.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 2:22 PM  

Most of the country is not possessed by Anglicans, nor - God forbid - never sufficiently to be damned Episcopals, themselves and their church just another arm of the Comintern.

Blogger kennymac March 12, 2017 2:27 PM  

@55 so you're in favor of sending back a whole bunch of Whites but you're willing to make an exception for blacks to stay. Perhaps your name should be spelled a little differently (((Jl)))?

Blogger Joe Keenan March 12, 2017 2:31 PM  

@62 Right yer are Tom! It comes as no surprise that the descendants of the people who banned fun and take the Schofield Bible seriously (Dispensations indeed!) would run the country inta the ground. Well, we got our work cut out for us, gotta save Western Civilization once again! But remember, we've done this before!

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 2:34 PM  

No, no, no. It's not an X, not X issue. It's a seeing X as Z and seeing X as W, issue. X is not being not X, X is denying - and they have no reason whatsoever to accept your definition of X; indeed, it would be quite illogical for them to - that they are not X or that you have the right and authority to define what X is.

If they have no reason whatsoever to accept the right and authority of actual Americans to define what America is, and if they deny that definition, then why on Earth would actual Americans give a damn what they think they are?

You're making a much better case for deportations, if not worse, than I am.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 2:48 PM  

Who is an actual American? You, yourself, have tacitly denied that you are, being, after all, native American with admixtures of various other things? Me? I'm all kinds of mutt, though I think myself more a citizen than any genetic inheritance that has never actually put it on the line for the country.

Being born in Boston doesn't count; its dirt is no more magic than anyone else's? (Nobody but Voix and I will get that joke, I suppose.) Is it the descendant of the protestant British-descended sorts who fucked us up in the first place? If anyone is not an American, it is them; their forefathers having forfeited the right, if that's the theory.

I'm not actually making the case for anything except the logical process.

None of that really matters, though. You claimed they were illogical. But one can only be illogical, as opposed to being simply wrong, by using whatever premises are accepted and failing to reason logically from those. Accept different premises and one must, logically, reach different conclusions. The premises themselves may be right or wrong, logic, however, remains the process of how we get to the conclusions from the premises. Logic is a process, not a result.

Anonymous EH March 12, 2017 2:52 PM  

@54 VD Just because Mexicans were born in the US never made them US citizens, better to not give in to the frame that the 600,000 ever were citizens, even to advance the correct idea that citizenship can be revoked or renounced through acting as a foreign citizen.

This is a sticking point, legally. "Everybody knows" you can't revoke citizenship, just like they "know" that birth on US soil confers citizenship, despite the lack of precedent in favor of those views and old precedent otherwise. The judiciary will have to be replaced before the rule of law can be re-instituted. Congress will have to be purged before that can happen. The deep state's blackmail operations will have to be broken before Congress can be purged. Picking at this snarl is pointless, it needs the Gordian solution.

Blogger Cail Corishev March 12, 2017 2:58 PM  

When people say, "Great, let's go back to 1776!" I assume they're trying to A) push the bar so high that most people will think it's impossible and give up on it, and/or B) get us fighting amongst ourselves, America 1.0 vs. America 2.0 and others.

At this point, 1965 should be a lofty enough goal for any man. If we make it there in our lifetimes, then we can decide whether the True English Descendants can live with the groups that came in the 1800s. Starting that fight now is like pitchers on opening day fighting over who gets to start game 1 of the World Series. It's a waste of time, and likely an attempt to get us off our game.

Blogger Michael Maier March 12, 2017 3:01 PM  

Is it the descendant of the protestant British-descended sorts who fucked us up in the first place?

So you agree they "fucked up" by admitting others but that the others should stay because "the fuckers" were so flawed in "fucking up" in the first place?

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 3:01 PM  

Who is an actual American?

The posterity of the Founding Fathers. As per the pre-1952 naturalization laws, if you're not white, you cannot be 100 percent actual American. That's why the terms "African-American" and "Native American" exist. They describe Americans the same way "social justice" describes justice.

This isn't that hard. It may not be comfortable, but it's not hard.

If you're Mexican, or Chinese, or Jewish, or Italian, then you're obviously not American. You can call an Ostrogoth a Roman if you like, you can even give him Roman citizenship, but he's still an Ostrogoth.

I notice that not even the most fervent civic nationalist ever seems to describe me as anything but an American, even though I haven't lived there for 20 years. Strange how it only seems to work one way.

Neither paperwork nor geography are people.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 3:02 PM  

That doesn't work either, Cail. If that process is understood and visible, then the logical thing is for anyone who came after 1800 to start the war to exterminate the Brit-Prod descended, now. Guess who wins that fight.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 3:05 PM  

And, see, I disagree. Those are your premises and, in this, at least, you're reasoning logically from them. I do not share those premises and, indeed, given the George Washington _had_ no posterity by that definition, do not share that definition of posterity (yes, it has a non-genetic meaning, as well).

Anonymous llsepher March 12, 2017 3:05 PM  

But do you think Trump has it in him to start the deportation 80 Million people Vox?

Blogger Salt March 12, 2017 3:07 PM  

America desperately needs its own Reconquista while Europe launches its version 2.0.

"Trump Silent as Fourth Mosque Burns Down in Seven Weeks"

http://resistancereport.com/news/trump-silent-fourth-mosque-burns-seven-weeks/

Blogger Jose March 12, 2017 3:08 PM  

EH wrote:they "know" that birth on US soil confers citizenship

Maybe they know that because they read the 14th amendment to the Constitution, section 1, clause 1:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

A tad generous, maybe. Pace Heinlein: to be a citizen, you have to serve in the military. (European countries used to have mandatory military service for native males; it was a country-building exercise.)

Anonymous llsepher March 12, 2017 3:09 PM  

I guess I've just got to get used to the formally impossible becoming possible. Having a President do this seems almost too good to be true. As his Presidency goes on, may he see the light.

Blogger Koanic March 12, 2017 3:11 PM  

The French actually defended America in the American Revolution, yet remained French.

Besides Edward Snowden, what living US serviceman has actually defended America?

I should think participating in imperial distractions from domestic treason counts as the opposite.

Blogger Salt March 12, 2017 3:18 PM  

Koanic wrote:Besides Edward Snowden, what living US serviceman has actually defended America?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Chelsea_Manning

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 12, 2017 3:20 PM  

@76
Jose wrote:
"'All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.'"

Children spawned by illegal aliens are not citizens because they and their invader parents have not subjected themselves to the jurisdiction of the US. Deep state bureaucrats have wrongly designated such anchor babies as citizens, but such designation is erroneous and untenable.

Blogger Michael Maier March 12, 2017 3:21 PM  

........ shouldn't the INFOGALACTIC page redirect to "Bradley Manning" by default?

Anonymous Jewish Question March 12, 2017 3:22 PM  

"Who is an actual American?

The posterity of the Founding Fathers. As per the pre-1952 naturalization laws, if you're not white, you cannot be 100 percent actual American. That's why the terms "African-American" and "Native American" exist. They describe Americans the same way "social justice" describes justice.

This isn't that hard. It may not be comfortable, but it's not hard.

If you're Mexican, or Chinese, or Jewish, or Italian, then you're obviously not American. You can call an Ostrogoth a Roman if you like, you can even give him Roman citizenship, but he's still an Ostrogoth."

Vox, serious question... as far as I can tell Jews were considered white and more or less were always allowed to emigrate to the US as a "free, white person," subject to immigration control also applied to other whites.

As I unfortunately have partial Ashkenazi ancestry, the rest white European, it's been a source of confusion and stress. It seems there's a contradiction here between the current white nationalist view, and the view of the government pretty much since the founding. Was it that the previous governments were wrong in classifying them as white?

Would appreciate some thoughts or clarification from you or anyone on this, especially as it relates to the "pre-1965" idea - these Jewish ancestors emigrated long before that, renounced the religion and assimilated/intermarried.

This is NOT to say they would be "Americans" and I'm not arguing that, I'm just wondering where they're likely to be lumped in, given their history of emigration here, no different than say the Italians, also not "American" in this sense.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 3:29 PM  

And, see, I disagree. Those are your premises and, in this, at least, you're reasoning logically from them. I do not share those premises and, indeed, given the George Washington _had_ no posterity by that definition, do not share that definition of posterity (yes, it has a non-genetic meaning, as well).

I am aware of that. I expect the overwhelming majority of people who consider themselves to be Americans disagree with me. This is not exactly an unusual situation.

But do you think Trump has it in him to start the deportation 80 Million people Vox?

I think it is highly unlikely. But you never know. I don't know why people keep asking me questions like that, though, considering that I have been clearly stating what I expect for over a decade, which is complete US collapse into multiple polities around 2033.

So, obviously I don't expect Trump to be any more successful than some of the good Byzantine emperors who managed to pull a few rabbits out of their hats and keep the empire going a little while longer. Just because something is necessary doesn't mean it will be done.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 3:32 PM  

Was it that the previous governments were wrong in classifying them as white?

I really don't care. Jews are Jews. That means they are not Mexicans, Chinese, Germans, Frenchman, or Americans. If you are X, then you are obviously not Y. By the same token, Americans are not Jews. And Jews are also not a subset of Americans, such as Californians.

This isn't that hard.

Blogger Dave March 12, 2017 3:55 PM  

"Plus how else to maintain the bubble and avoid having to defend your positions"

Some fool actually posted that comment directed at Vox a couple of days ago. I find that opinion hilarious when we get these "real American" threads or the Catholic threads with hundreds of comments.

Blogger Dave March 12, 2017 4:04 PM  

Vox, I've been hearing this wikipedia edit war story re Garfield's gender on local news recently. Will they ever realize they have moved beyond a parody of themselves? Will Infogalactic have a page for each of Garfield's genders?

Anonymous Jewish Question March 12, 2017 4:06 PM  

"I really don't care. Jews are Jews. That means they are not Mexicans, Chinese, Germans, Frenchman, or Americans. If you are X, then you are obviously not Y. By the same token, Americans are not Jews. And Jews are also not a subset of Americans, such as Californians.

This isn't that hard."

Vox, I understand that... I'm talking about someone who is NOT a "Jew" by most any definition.

Is an American by your definition someone who is a descendent of the founders, regardless of other ancestry (incl non-WASP white, native American, or even black)? I'm asking your personal view, if you're willing to give it. I assume you've thought about it.

I met a guy once, looked like straight off the boat from India, whitest name you could have, and was a "descendent" of one of the founders. So we're talking a small percentage, but an actual descendent nonetheless, assuming he was telling the truth.

In your view, is this guy an American?

I know none of us will decide these precise definitions, but someone or group out there eventually will.

You live abroad, and maybe you have no intention to ever come back until the dust settles, if at all, I don't know... but for those of us here who are not wholly or even partially descended from the "founders," it is a subject of great interest.

Blogger Salt March 12, 2017 4:28 PM  

Jewish Question wrote:"Who is an actual American?

I've been told it's one born in Portugal to Portuguese parents. Lame I know, but there it is.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 4:32 PM  

In your view, is this guy an American?

I don't know. I'm not the American police. But the bright line will be drawn by those willing to fight for America, if it survives.

Blogger DeploraBard March 12, 2017 4:40 PM  

"You are not welcome here." Very effective. Similar to "You must go back."

Anonymous Daniel H March 12, 2017 4:42 PM  

Wilders is a great man. Such come along rarely in history, but, thankfully, they come along when they are desperately needed.

Anonymous Icicle March 12, 2017 5:03 PM  

One way you can tell Ashkenazi Jews are not Caucasians is that they average about 5'6". Caucasians about 5'10". That is definitely a different gene pool.

Anonymous Anonymous March 12, 2017 5:11 PM  

The uncuckening begins:

https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/840980755236999169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

'Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies'

Blogger Kona Commuter March 12, 2017 5:27 PM  

Just tell everyone that has dual citizenship that if they can't choose then America will choose for them and their American one will be cancelled never to be re-instated.

Choose a side for goodness sake

Blogger beerme March 12, 2017 5:45 PM  

Is X an American?
If you have to ask, the answer is no.

Anonymous Jewish Question March 12, 2017 5:46 PM  

"I don't know. I'm not the American police. But the bright line will be drawn by those willing to fight for America, if it survives."

Well noted, thanks. Makes sense to me.

"One way you can tell Ashkenazi Jews are not Caucasians is that they average about 5'6". Caucasians about 5'10". That is definitely a different gene pool."

Source?

Also there are height disparities between many Caucasian groups. That Ashkenazi is caucasoid though is beyond dispute, AFAIK.

Regardless, this is irrelevant to anything I said, which was whiteness includes it as defined by the US govt, since its inception, and thus complicates things. Especially for those who are mixed white and have no connection to the religion itself.

Anonymous Heywood March 12, 2017 5:58 PM  

The Wilders video was uploaded back in 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5EoMdwkpgY

Which just means that Geert was a woke dude back then already, when US consensus in polite company was still that America belongs to the Mexicans. But it is not a response to the current Turkish hi-jinx.

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 6:01 PM  

That would lead to Civil War no?

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 6:16 PM  

I'll be happy if we can just keep Islam from taking root here. I'm in TX and last weekend I'm in a Starbucks when guess what walks in? A refugee family of four. Wife in full burka and none can speak passable English. Two small children one in a very expensive stroller. I am an American even by VD's strict standards and yet what did I see last weekend? Radical Islam right in my fucking face after 15 years of war and trillions of tax dollars and thousands of Americans dead. WHAT THE FUCK? I'd like to worry about pre 65 definitions after I don't see fucking burka in Texas again.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 12, 2017 6:20 PM  

@54 VD

Hoover ordered the deportation of all illegal aliens in the early 1930's specifically to open jobs up to Americans. Some of the Mexicans deported were refugees or children of refugees. The Mexican civil war of 1910 - 1923 or so led to large refugee camps being built right along Arizona and California borders. The influx of those refugees into southern California changed the demographics in the 1920's. Hoover's deportation program can be considered a reasonable expansion of the 1920's immigration restrictions that cut off mass migration from eastern and southern Europe.

Allowing aliens to become citizens by fighting for the state is a common policy of empires. Empires tend to be ruled by central authority, not governed by consent. Empires also tend to disintegrate into smaller, homogeneous, states.

Hoover's deportation was a good thing for country. So was Eisenhowers. Another deportation on the same lines in 1982 would have saved us a lot, a whole lot, of trouble.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 12, 2017 6:31 PM  

@38 JI

Why stop at the 80-million post-1965?
---

I like it. Punch past the target.

Blogger ant becker March 12, 2017 6:41 PM  

In Europe, who on the right can muster forces that are capable of fighting the left and their 3rd world immigrant allies? In the UK, the EDL were a decent street army.

Anonymous gxg March 12, 2017 6:41 PM  

Rep. Steve King from Iowa is taking heat for this tweet, praising Geert Wilders:

"Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies."

This means, of course, that Steve King is now literally Hitler.

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 6:49 PM  

We have to get more rhetoric going to counter the left. I don't want to convert to Islam and see burkas everywhere. People need to understand the real Islam and how dangerous it is once a critical mass is reached. I'll be back in Andalusia (Southern Spain) next month, there are plenty of reminders dotting the landscape there of what can happen if Islam goes unchallenged.

Anonymous Icicle March 12, 2017 6:51 PM  

Source?

The 5'10" is everywhere, even Wikipedia, the 5'6" would take some Googling.

Also there are height disparities between many Caucasian groups.

I should have been more specific since we have an international audience here: American Male Caucasians and Male Ashkenazi in America. There are differences overseas but I am not sure if that has been studied yet.

That Ashkenazi is caucasoid though is beyond dispute, AFAIK.

Not the context I am using "Caucasian" in. "Caucasoid" is far more broad, including the Middle East and North Africa.

Regardless, this is irrelevant to anything I said,

That was a general comment, not to anyone in particular; except now I am responding to you.

Especially for those who are mixed white and have no connection to the religion itself.

The interracial mixing that leads to height differences is an open question.

Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.

The outcry over that was amazing. Considering it can equally apply to Japan.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky March 12, 2017 7:09 PM  

Every day that passes we're inching towards more civil strife in the West, with the real potential for widespread violence and war. You would think steps were being taken to avoid all that, but the opposite is true. The choice is going to be made for us, under the current regimes. Most people just want to live the life, do their things, go along with the get-along. But they will not be allowed to. The course of events is cascading towards catastrophe.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 12, 2017 7:18 PM  

Bill Clinton is Concerned about the revival of nationalism. He should be, because there is no place in a real American nation for him or his co-President.

This quote sums things up. Remember, this is Bill Clinton.

.

“The whole history of humankind is basically the definition of who is us and who is them, and the question of whether we should all live under the same set of rules,” he said.

“We are programmed biologically, instinctively, to prefer win-lose situations, us versus them. We have to find a way to bring simple, personal decency and trust back to our politics.”


I can't even.

Anonymous Hillary Clinton March 12, 2017 8:06 PM  

I JUST CAN'T EVEN.

Blogger SteelPalm March 12, 2017 8:09 PM  

Focusing on such lofty, far-ranging goals now is a mistake.

The God Emperor himself, after all, fails Vox's definition for an American; his mother was an immigrant from Scotland, and all 4 of his grandparents were born in foreign lands. He is a second-generation/third-generation white European immigrant.

It seems more pressing to kick out all criminal invaders/"illegal immigrants", anchor babies, Muslims, and put a complete moratorium on all immigration...none of which will be easy.

And that's before considering a litany of other problems, like how to deal with black, Hispanic, and Asian citizens. All of which have different rates of assimilation, success, tribalism, and feelings towards whites.

@92 Icicle

One way you can tell Ashkenazi Jews are not Caucasians is that they average about 5'6". Caucasians about 5'10". That is definitely a different gene pool.

Don't know where you got it from (cartoons/memes?), but the 5'6" figure is complete bullshit. The average Mexican man is taller than that.

On a biodiversity forum, a guy got slightly over 5'10" for younger (18-25) Ashkenazi in Florida;

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/33682-Average-Ashkenazi-American-height

According to the Infogalactic link on heights by country, the average height in Israel (which should be slightly less than Jews in the US, since more than half of Israeli Jews have at least a bit of Mizrahi blood in them there) for men in the 18-21 range is 5' 9.5".

That's about half an inch to an inch shorter than whites on average, but as tall as or slightly taller than certain white races.

Anonymous Icicle March 12, 2017 8:25 PM  

The average Mexican man is taller than that.

Depends on how Spaniard (or European) they are. Zapotec can be around 5'2". That's a lot of averaging there.

5'10" for younger (18-25)

in the 18-21 range is 5' 9.5".


Can you spot the problem here?

Blogger Sigma K March 12, 2017 8:25 PM  

Me, I am gonna move to Hawaii once we get the white man out of it. Thanks FDR for bringing WWII. Hawaii still has a king you know.

Oh, I have some friends that want Alaska sent back to Russia as well. Since, you know, it was Russian for a really long time.

We don't have to worry about SoCal as the Mexicans have taken that back. Since the requirement according to VD is simple those whom settled it first. Well that means Texas has to go.

In reality all you whites get is the original 13. Anything after that can't really be claimed by you "Protestant" types now can it?

This is by far the most gamma argument from Vox in a while. His gamma cred is starting to show. His supreme dark lordy-ness sounds more like screechy nerd lordy-mess.

Blogger VD March 12, 2017 8:25 PM  

Focusing on such lofty, far-ranging goals now is a mistake.

It's not a mistake. It's vital to know the objective. You're confusing strategy with tactics.

The God Emperor himself, after all, fails Vox's definition for an American; his mother was an immigrant from Scotland, and all 4 of his grandparents were born in foreign lands. He is a second-generation/third-generation white European immigrant.

And that's exactly why he understands the difference between himself and an American proper. I understand the difference because I am an immigrant to Europe myself. I fully grasp the readily observable difference between me and an actual member of a European nation.

Anonymous the management March 12, 2017 8:33 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:When people say, "Great, let's go back to 1776!" I assume they're trying to A) push the bar so high that most people will think it's impossible and give up on it, and/or B) get us fighting amongst ourselves, America 1.0 vs. America 2.0 and others.

Agreed, along with TK's critique of the British Protestants - too much "commerce is next to godliness" heresy to hold on to a good thing.

I think DeToqueville nailed it early with his suggestion that the U.S. was basically three nations in one, and that it would break up along those lines. Borderline cases will naturally gravitate to whatever polity is willing to accept them in non-threatening numbers.

The only America 1.0/2.0 serious problem group in such a breakup is probably the Jews. Their disloyalty and influence relative to their white Christian hosts when allowed in, even in relatively small numbers, is legendary.

Blogger liberranter March 12, 2017 8:36 PM  

The top military officer in Switzerland has told its citizens to gun up in preparation for war. Has any US general done as much?

No, and none ever will. The degenerate scumbags in charge of what the USA dares still call a "defense force" are all Establishment political hacks who are willing and eager tools of the One Percent. If they order anyone to "gun up," it will be the brainless uniformed stooges under their command and the targets will be those of us attempting to save what little remains of freedom and western civilization. These assholes are the enemy.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky March 12, 2017 8:56 PM  

The Turks have gone full retard on the Netherlands now. Erdogan & Co. are calling the Dutch Nazis and fascists. Apparently he forgot history, the Dutch were steamrolled by Hitler's Wehrmacht, they never wanted to be part of the Third Reich, and that memory is bitter.

Turks are saying that Dutch will be made to pay, that the Netherlands is "the face of fascism", and accusing the Dutch of Islamophobia.

So, it's going pretty well, in other words!! More. Keep it coming, Geert!

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 12, 2017 9:18 PM  

As one who is 6.25% Turk, I applaud Wilders's position and pray for his political victory.

Question: What makes Turks non-European? Is it their near-unanimous embrace of the thought crime, Islam, or is it genetics? During the Hellenistic era, most of what is now Turkey was Greek. It was the advance of Islam into once-Greek territory that resulted in the European Renaissance, as learned people fled the Islamists into Europe, bringing with them forgotten writings of Greek philosophers.

What makes today's Turks shit-tier, beneath even shit-tier Mediterreanoids, is Islam more than genetics.

Blogger Madame Ringading March 12, 2017 9:19 PM  

It's like I keep telling my local friends and family, "Trouble is brewing down there and unlike the last time, we as Canadians won't be sitting smugly on the sidelines." This might be the impetus for our own fault lines giving way as well. When the balloon goes up, this thing is going well north of the 49th parallel, there won't be any "Skedaddle Ridge" for the new civil war refugees to run to.

Anonymous Eduardo March 12, 2017 9:29 PM  

@114

Nazi is just codeword for: "You want to coerce people into doing something and you are right-wing"

Blogger Lazarus March 12, 2017 9:30 PM  

Sigma K wrote:Hawaii still has a king you know.


Do they still have a “ipu lepu,” a calabash bowl to secretly dispose of his feces, hair and nail trimmings?

Blogger Sweet One March 12, 2017 9:39 PM  

"600,000 Mexicans were stripped of their US citizenship and deported by President Eisenhower."

So why the heck isn't Eisenhower reviled as America's Hitler like Trump is?

Blogger Lazarus March 12, 2017 9:50 PM  

Sweet One wrote:So why the heck isn't Eisenhower reviled as America's Hitler like Trump is?

People were deranged in different ways back then.

Blogger JWM in SD March 12, 2017 10:07 PM  

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Blogger DonReynolds March 12, 2017 11:08 PM  

Hooray for Vox!
Just as Donald Trump said during the campaign....
"Either we have a country, or we do not."
This is not Mexico, nor is it the Middle East, nor is it Central America....nor will it become anything but the USA just because foreign citizens are standing on it.
This is MY COUNTRY. I have no other country. To take it from me, you will have to kill me...and all of my relatives....and all of my countrymen. Otherwise, we will drive you out and bury those who refuse to leave. They are invaders who have every intention of stealing everything my family and MY COUNTRY has built. That will not happen while we still live. It is a matter of survival.

Blogger SteelPalm March 12, 2017 11:56 PM  

@109 Icicle

Can you spot the problem here?

So you took the figures out of context and hoped no one would notice? You're not an idiot pulling numbers out of his ass after all; you're a lying piece of shit. The actual quotes, with italicized portions being what you removed;

"5'10" for younger (18-25) Ashkenazi in Florida"

"the average height in Israel (which should be slightly less than Jews in the US, since more than half of Israeli Jews have at least a bit of Mizrahi blood in them there) for men in the 18-21 range is 5' 9.5".

Depends on how Spaniard (or European) they are.

No, it doesn't, since the average Spaniard is still shorter than the average Jew in the US or Israel.

@111

VD

And that's exactly why he understands the difference between himself and an American proper. I understand the difference because I am an immigrant to Europe myself. I fully grasp the readily observable difference between me and an actual member of a European nation.

I agree with all this, too. But is this return to America 1.0 even achievable with the current demographics?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 12, 2017 11:57 PM  

@BBGKB
"while Angela Merkel’s government admits hundreds of thousands of “war refugees” from all over the non-white Middle East without question."

It's heartwarming to see all of those Sub-Saharan Africans finally escaping from the horrors of the Syrian civil war.

"one person tossing out a few boxes of thumb tacks along the loop around DieVerse Cities could shut down traffic in/out for days."

That would stop bicycles, but for trucks you'd probably need some version of caltrops-- not that hard to MacGyver.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 12:00 AM  

@VFM #7634

"I'm sure if the Mexicans and Central Americans were Muslim, that we'd be in full five-alarm fire mode right now."

And I'm sure that if the Somalians all converted to Christianity tomorrow, they'd still be a problem.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 12:06 AM  

@Elocutioner

"Congress is nothing but paid actors. Sessions may have been the only honest man in the bunch."

Well, there's Steve King:

http://www.vdare.com/posts/steve-king-tells-truth-gets-attacked-we-cant-restore-our-civilization-with-someone-elses-babies

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 12:32 AM  

@Eduardo

"Nazi is just codeword for"

Anti-Nazi is just a code word for anti-White.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 13, 2017 12:41 AM  

@Sweet One

"So why the heck isn't Eisenhower reviled as America's Hitler like Trump is?"

Read "Other Losses." That's one reason. Kinda like Wilson gets a pass from the media and academia for his "racism," resegregation of federal agencies and facilities, kind words for the KKK, etc. because of the Fed, income tax, and getting the US into WW1.

Blogger Gospace March 13, 2017 2:07 AM  

Tom Kratman March 12, 2017 3:02 PM
That doesn't work either, Cail. If that process is understood and visible, then the logical thing is for anyone who came after 1800 to start the war to exterminate the Brit-Prod descended, now. Guess who wins that fight.


One set of maternal g-grandparents came from Ireland in the 1880's. One set of paternal g-grandparents from England in the 1880's. Every other line was here (or in Canada) before 1750, and includes all the British Isles, French Huguenots, Dutch, and Germans of various kinds, though I'm certain they identified as Bavarians or Bohemians or wherever it was they came from, since Germany wasn't really Germany then. So, by definition everyone here is throwing around, am I American because the majority of ancestry was here early on? Or not American because half of my g-grandparents came late?

Having spent 21 years on active duty, I know what my answer is. More American then most. And a firm believer in Constitutionalism and rule of law, with an originalist interpretation of our founding document.

Blogger Johnny March 13, 2017 2:09 AM  

>>Question: What makes Turks non-European?

Turkey is a country run by an ethnic group called Turks. They came in off the Russian steppe and took the place over. I forget when the conversion to Islam took place.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope March 13, 2017 2:11 AM  

I'd like him to focus on building that wall.
Beefing up ICE and immediate deportations.
Start a trickle of DREAM ACT deportations.

Start laying land mines between the first wall and the second one.
Turn up the volume on the deportations, and for the love of God, start sending back some of the millions of illegal Chinese too.

Anonymous allahu akbar March 13, 2017 3:14 AM  

I have a better idea.

deport all the latino men, and then relentlessly mate with the remaining latina women. That way, we will all have the multiple brides we were promised.

Its what they all want, anyway...

ALLAHU AKBAR!
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Avalanche March 13, 2017 7:49 AM  

@55 "I think African-Americans should be given basically the same deal as the Indians. Give them lands with their own governance, plus supplemental food, housing and medical aid, and a monthly check."

Native Americans, probably yes, continue.

Africans? Hell no! They must GO BACK! If you still feel guilty, then give them those gibsmedats IN AFRICA!!! They have proven beyond doubt that they are not assimilable, even after all these hundreds of years. They prove it every damned day! They are a violent infection -- and there is no health for America with them here.

ALL blacks from after 1965 need to be rounded up and deported (no money, no housing, no nothing! They were financial migrants,and they're done now. Go HOME!) I do NOT agree with Ann Coulter that "we" somehow "owe" "American" blacks anything! They have had reparations and more for years: they're all paid up. Hell, they owe US a refund of over-payments (and "reparations" for thousands of raped, tortured, and murdered White Americans)!

The ones who can prove descent from "slaves"? I *might* be persuadable we should pay them -- but that should include 'chipping' (to prevent return) and exportation TO Africa. Liberia 2 --
set 'em up and let 'em go. Not our problem!

Blogger Raziel Walker March 13, 2017 9:48 AM  

That video of Geert Wilders and his statement was released in december 2015 so this is not some populist response to the riots 2 days ago, Wilders has been pretty clear on his position regarding (criminal) muslims all along.

Anonymous Pennywise March 13, 2017 10:49 AM  

It is highly unlikely that repatriations is on the table for any administration, given its dubious legal precedent and its legal and Constitutional uncertainties.

Blogger Dane Prywatne March 13, 2017 1:07 PM  

"Let the Reconquista of the entire West begin!" You understand that Reconquista was done by Mexican ancestry? You do also understand that in case of California, new Mexico, Texas that would mean getting it back to Mexico?

RTOFL

Blogger Unknown March 14, 2017 10:04 AM  

VD; "Europeans are burning and firing on refugee camps everywhere from Norway to Italy. What are the Americans doing to resist the invasion?"

During on them? With what might I ask? Europeans are unarmed. What are they going to shoot them with? Switzerland perhaps, but Switzerland is not Germany, or France, or Norway, etc, etc....The rest of Europe gave up their weapons.

Blogger kenny wickman1 March 14, 2017 10:05 AM  

Fucking spell check... *FIRING*

Anonymous TinMan March 14, 2017 4:39 PM  

"Deport everyone whose ancestors came here after 1965 and many whose ancestors came earlier if not from Northern Europe."

Yeah, that's just the largest ethnic cleansing in history.
I was on your side until just now. Now I'm on the other side.

Good job, asshole.

Blogger Sweet One March 14, 2017 6:31 PM  

"Read "Other Losses." That's one reason. Kinda like Wilson gets a pass from the media and academia for his "racism," resegregation of federal agencies and facilities, kind words for the KKK, etc. because of the Fed, income tax, and getting the US into WW1."

"People were deranged in different ways back then."

It seems that these days, people have just gone to seed on "rights".

Blogger Tom Kratman March 14, 2017 8:58 PM  

"The French actually defended America in the American Revolution, yet remained French.

Besides Edward Snowden, what living US serviceman has actually defended America?"

Stupid comment. The French were obeying French orders on France's behalf. The soldier defends America's _interests_ even when fighting on other than American soil.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 14, 2017 9:12 PM  

Vox:
(Been busy. Took a while to free some time.)

The problems with that definition of posterity, though, are multiple. In the first place, both now and at the time, it had two meanings, one's individual genetic heirs and succeeding generations, generally. Webster so defined it in...mmm...1828 or so, as I recall. Samuel Johnson never defined it, but used it as illustration in both ways, too. The best you can hope for is that it's an arguable point and _could_ have been restrictive. But then you immediately run into two problems, or sets of problems, one of omission and one of commission. The omission is that, had the founding fathers wanted to, it would have been easy enough to have said, "The rules for citizenship in the United States shall be those prevailing in Athens at the time of Pericles." That would have even allowed an out in the form of giving citizenship to half citizen children by formal legislation, as with Pericles' son by Aspasia, the courtesan. There were, indeed, an infinite number of ways to have done so, yet they chose none of them.

Moreover, immigration seems clearly in mind when we look to Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2, and Article 1. Section 3, Clause 3, both of which lay out provisions for becoming a rep or senator, which mandate a certain number of years having been a citizen, presumptively because there was some period of time before that when one was not a citizen. (And no, looking to voting age won't work; the years allowed and the time of citizen demanded indicate 18 for rep (25 - 7), 21 for senator (30 - 9)). Then we have the legislation of 1790, which allowed anyone white and free, without reference to origin, to naturalize.

Anonymous Icicle March 16, 2017 1:06 AM  

You actually replied?

I actually completely forgot about this post since I thought the problem was so obvious.

Here it is: YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE TALLER ON AVERAGE.

So you took the figures out of context and hoped no one would notice?

I think it is the other way around. Let's look at the errors in context at your link:
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/33682-Average-Ashkenazi-American-height

1) The sample size is too small at n = 100.

2) The sample is not properly weighed for the United States by taking everything from Florida. If I try to measure the United States by just measuring Inuit in Alaska and Hawaiians in Hawaii since they are Americans, does that make sense?

3) Author: "Basically I went through a list of Jewish surnames, collected the info of 18-25 yo guys who looked like they're probably fully Jewish(not as common as you'd think, "Levy" for example is like a quarter black for some reason), and averaged their stats."

In other words, we don't actually know if they were Jewish or not. Or even how Jewish.

4) I said Ashkenazi, not all Jews. Did the author make sure to separate out the other Jews, despite what the title might say? See also global warming studies.

No, it doesn't, since the average Spaniard is still shorter than the average Jew in the US or Israel.

All Europeans in Mexico are Spaniards? And it's 5'9.5" - 5'10" for the same age range you were posting (assuming you are even correct).

Uh oh...

You're not an idiot pulling numbers out of his ass after all; you're a lying piece of shit. The actual quotes, with italicized portions being what you removed;

Yeah, I actually did that on purpose since it the rest was tl;dr;so dumb. So much for Jewish verbal ability. And such small portions (like Israel's height).

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