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Sunday, April 16, 2017

Mailvox: fighting antifa

A firsthand report from the Second Battle of Berkeley from a reader:
Those Nike batting helmets are light, but they work! I took a rock to the top of my head yesterday that probably would have had me out.We also tested it before the saturday with a could of good smacks to the sides and back with both dowels and 1x3s. The impact jerked your head, but it protected against the pain and did a reasonable job of getting the blow to skate along the curves of the helmet.

One of the folks there next to me wasn't wearing a helmet, and took a nasty smack in the head with a thrown full mini-can of soda. He recovered OK, but there was a LOT of blood. They have video of him getting treated.

Wear a helmet...even if you are fit and young. I armored up because I am slow, but even those fit madmen dodging rocks on the front line could use it.

...and VD, They did a fantastic job of keeping the lines together yesterday. They had folks watching for flanking and the berserkers (that's what those based millennials were fighting like...absolutely breathtaking) at the front were keeping an ear out for the yell to pull back when they smashed into the front lines of the very skinny antifa janissaries. There were only a few incidents of folks pushing too far and getting enveloped.

Gloves are necessary as well. I started out with my motorcycle gloves, but lost them when I took them off to put some gauze on the fellow how to smack with the soda. Even though I didn't take a hit in the hands, I still learned why I needed them after the rally when I was heading back home. I didn't get pepper sprayed directly, but I did go through the clouds a couple of times and helped a few guys holding their head back when they were getting their eyes washed out. Pepper spray residue was all over my hands and when I took off my mask, helmet and goggles, I instinctively wiped my lips. Noob mistake that would have been mitigated if I was wearing gloves. I'm glad there were no cameras to capture my "it's too spicy" dance.
Good to know that there are some tactically-aware leaders taking charge, and that people are following their directions. Discipline plus preparation plus leadership usually equals victory. I noticed the discipline right away in the first videos I'd seen; it's far more important that everyone is on the same page than for anyone to engage in individual heroics or pursue optimal tactical objectives.

It was also significant to see that the tanks were going after the antifa leaders. Remember, antifa is all offense, so the leaders are not expecting to engage in any direct conflict themselves. The wedgies were a nice touch; another effective humiliation is to tie their shoelaces together or to remove their belts and bind their ankles with them.

It seems to me there ought to be a bounty placed on antifa flags and masks. I certainly wouldn't mind having a flag or two to hang in my office as a trophy.

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Anonymous Jack Amok April 17, 2017 11:24 AM  

Somehow I don't think xe's cognitive enough to feel the dissonance there.

The comment you quoted from the antifa reddit AAR thread was a right-winger trolling the commies. A fair amount of that going on in that threat, to the point it was locked because of it.

And it's worth remembering in our threads too. We've gotten good at recognizing the obvious trolls because Obvious Troll is Obvious. But are there more subtle trolls in here too? I think there's at least one in this thread.

Anonymous fop April 17, 2017 11:25 AM  

I saw a video where antifa pushed a big dumpster. The pro trumpers pushed the dumpster back. Then antifa really pushed the dumpster back and it almost tipped over. Then the proTrumpers got really mad and pushed the dumpster all the way back. Also there was a smaller trash bin knocked over.

That's pretty much it.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 11:26 AM  

A new game for protests... Who can ziptie the most antifa. Sort of like calf roping in a rodeo

https://www.amazon.com/MAIMII-Police-Double-Handcuffs-Disposable/dp/B01N035U63/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492442673&sr=8-2&keywords=zip+cuffs

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 17, 2017 11:31 AM  

johnc
How about negotiating a simple ordinance that could end this? Something like this: if you're at an organized protest you're not allowed to wear a mask to hide your identity. And then the police can go in and just pick off random people wearing masks and detain them

There are already laws on the books prohibiting wearing masks in some situations. If California has one, it's not being enforced. There are already laws regarding freedom of assembly in Cali, clearly the Berkeley cops were told to not intervene. Selective enforcement of laws in this way is an example of what the late Sam Francis called "anarcho tyranny".

The Klantifa have declared that some words are so hateful they constitute a form of violence. There are comments about that in the reddit thread. If words are kind of violence, then, violence in response to those words is self defense. Normal people are not buying that yet.

If "words = violence" becomes embedded into culture, politics becomes very one sided. That's the goal for the Klantifa paymasters, to make some forms of speech punishable by the mob.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 12:05 PM  

A warning to the cucks from Stickman himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2i6E3BP-g

Blogger wreckage April 17, 2017 12:20 PM  

The physical pushback is serving the ends of the Right better than any lawfare ever will. Antifa, like any bunch of spoiled children, have escalated repeatedly to get their way, found it worked, faced no consequences, and repeated the behaviour.

When the cheap wins, the cheap thrills go away, so will they. Their core population do not understand commitment, delayed gratification, or stoicism. They do not understand pushing on with the fight with disciplined persistence even when you expect to lose.

If the right simply stops surrendering, we will win.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 12:20 PM  

@188

What would really help counter this is if you had patriots sneak into the antifa lines either immediately target those who conduct these sort of attacks.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 12:24 PM  

@204

I think pertinent to that is that it appears that many of antifa
s member are youngish looking only to cause havoc, their stated aims just being the rationalization for their discivilizational behavior. On the other hand the right would rather not fight but see's fighting as a proper action to defend ourselves and our freedom.

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 12:31 PM  

There are already laws on the books prohibiting wearing masks in some situations. If California has one, it's not being enforced. There are already laws regarding freedom of assembly in Cali, clearly the Berkeley cops were told to not intervene. Selective enforcement of laws in this way is an example of what the late Sam Francis called "anarcho tyranny".

While I understand that this is happening, my argument is that we shouldn't find it acceptable. I know people are throwing their hands into the air saying, "but what can we do?" But I think we need to find something to do and find it fast. This can not be an arena where we cede ground.

If police and cities and courts are allowed to selectively enforce law based on political beliefs, we're putting ourselves at a distinct disadvantage. We won't even be able to defend ourselves. This would spread well beyond Berkeley. It's unacceptable. Why isn't the right raising holy hell about this and demanding the City Manager step down?

If the roles were reversed and a left-wing rally were interrupted by right-wing protesters hurling bricks and M-80s and pepper spray, and the police stood down and did nothing, believe me, the left would never permit that. They would be down at the police chief's private home demanding a resignation. There would be a hundred lawsuits filed before the day had ended. And you know what? They would get their way.

But when it happens to the right, we just sit on our hands and say, "welp, nothing we can do!"

And because I've said this I'm accused of being a troll.

Blogger michaeloh59 April 17, 2017 12:59 PM  

I had a chance to watch a couple hours of the Black Block Nazi videos from Berkely While my first wife drove yesterday. A couple observations and suggestions on how to deal with the Nazifa:

1. 99% of the interaction between the 2 sides was posing and posturing. Very little actual arms length violence, what we would call good old fashioned fisticuffs. More people were willing to use sticks or other weapons, especially thrown objects which subjected the attacker to no risk of retaliation. Said risk was inversely proportional to the number of users, thus mouthing off and bravely extending the middle finger were by far the most popular tactic. If one expected a Ferguson style melee where ghetto blacks are creating chaos one was severely disappointed by the relative timidity and good manners of the 'combatants'.

2. Watching the few actual confrontations it seemed obvious that just a very few determined and brave people could have utterly routed the Black Block Nazis. I think that units of as few as 5 -10 Constitutionalists could have easily driven wedges into the Nazis by simply engaging in kickboxing against select targets; first target being any Nazi who was willing to fight and could therefore inspire the lesser Storm Troopers do the same. As Sean Connery said in the movie, " Pick out a tough guy and kick his ass real good". When you watch the very few kickboxing matches which broke out the crowd would close in from afar as people jockeyed to see the entertainment, BUT would recoil from the immediate area so as not to get involved, creating an arena of 10-20 feet in diameter where only the brave dared venture. Therefore a small team of as few as 5 could likely easily charge, surround and stomp the very few Titus Pullos the Nazis put on the field. The videos made clear that few if any would have chosen to take the risk of entering the arena, instead remaining safe bystanders, preferring to video with their phone. We may rest assured that seeing the bravest among them take an ass whoopin will have a devastating effect on the morale of the entire Black Block. Therefore by pushing the arena in whichever direction they choose this small group can move huge sections of the Block around at will. Vox says MPAI. It is also true that MPAPussies and a strike team will be able to move the herd by confronting them with the choice of getting into the arena or backing the fuck up. The strike team could also drive wedges between the Nazi mob; dividing them into smaller groups is going to frighten them as it places each of them in a position of an involuntary participant in a kickboxing match. I would estimate that not 1 out of 100 want that! A mob has anonymity, like a school of minnows. The predators divide them into smaller groups and devour them.
3. These 'battles' are not going to be resolved with much bloodshed and injury since neither side, at this point, is willing to die. Therefore the winner is the side that first demoralizes the opponent, causing them to retreat, tail between their legs as the Nazifas did Saturday. So, targeting the Warriors among them, dividing them into smaller, less safe groups, and other follow up tactics-such as VDs suggestion to deprive them of their symbols and standards (Leave it to our host to understand the value of those symbols to maintaining the courage of the 'combatants') is all that is necessary, at this point, to prevail over these crybully thugsies. Also I think that once the cohesion of the Nazifa is broken that, as suggested here by someone, it is an excellent though longer term tactic to unmask and photograph as many of them as possible, whereupon they would be posted on 'The Complete List of Nazifa', probably created by our host.
4. In any case I want to express my gratitude to all those who showed up in Berkely to support our Constitutional and Civil Rights to speak and peaceably assemble. And congratulations on humiliating and exposing these thugsies for what they are.

Blogger wreckage April 17, 2017 1:12 PM  

Wedges flank themselves. Isolated combatants are encircled. The successful infantry armies of history favoured a disciplined advance for very good reasons.

The aim is not tactical flair but to cause the other side to quit the field.

Taking their standard or capturing their chieftain seems a good tactic with sound precedent, but must be done methodically by a large block with protected flanks.

If you want to amp up the sophistication and aggression, then have fresh troops come up to replace the tired, rattled, or injured, so your side can maintain push and intensity longer than the other side.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 2:27 PM  

wRECKAGE,

A few flying V formations blitzkrieging into antifa lines, with rear flanking support, in a staggered manner, and they will lose their taste for physical confrontation very quickly based on what happened at Berkeley. The shock factor of the physical impact could be huge, get a good battle cry going when the flying V's charge and you could easily cause a mass retreat.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 2:44 PM  

@210

I wonder how antifa would like to get hit by a flying V carrying battering ram type tools. From a psychological warfare perspective could design it to look like a giant phallus.

Blogger Koanic April 17, 2017 3:09 PM  

@190 paradigm

"Your paraphrase is false."

Congratulations on discovering that exaggeration is an element of humor. I'm sure you're a never-ending font of midwit chauvinism. Let's agree to fail to communicate.

Anyhow back to antifa. Gathering intelligence on them is fantastic. Godspeed Ivan Throne.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 3:23 PM  

Theproductofafineeduction wrote:@210

I wonder how antifa would like to get hit by a flying V carrying battering ram type tools. From a psychological warfare perspective could design it to look like a giant phallus.


No weapons needed. Get your 200+ lb fit guys in the front of the V in full motorcross body armor with face mask. Have them charge at a ¾ speed run with a good battle cry. You are talking about the force of over 1,000 lbs of “meat” in each V hitting the antifa lines .

Blogger The Kurgan April 17, 2017 3:25 PM  

What are you talking about? It's The US "culture" that poisons the rest of the world, not vice-versa.

Blogger michaeloh59 April 17, 2017 3:31 PM  

Hopefully this link will work, turn down the annoying CBS agitprop and just notice the first 30 or so seconds of the Battle of the Dumpster. The ONLY men in the Arena are the pro free speechers. They held the center, about 5 of them, at will. Nazifa stayed behind the dumpster or out of the Arena. After the speechers withdrew one Nazifa postures as if to fight. Perhaps he was willing and perhaps he was posturing, but a group of 5 with the preplanned objective of making an example of Nazifas acting out could have easily charged and surrounded this fool and made an example of him, or he would have been forced to beat a hasty and humiliating retreat. I dont suggest that it is a job for sissies but the video seems to make clear that very few men acting in concert could have vast impact on the timid dumpster hiders, easily stomp the few warriors, and/or divide and frighten the thugsie mob. These 5 or so in front of the dumpster demonstrate who was bitch saturday, and its all you need to understand why Nazifa retreated. The more video one watches the more one notices that there are vanishingly few nazifa who will get violent in the Arena and therefore threaten to take ground and intimidate the other side. Almost all the thugsies only get violent at a distance, ie throwing objects, or wait until a speecher was dragged safely into their midst. trying to find a straight up tough guy Nazifa who backs down speechers is hard to find, and those few should be targeted. http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/pro-and-anti-trump-protesters-clash-in-berkeley/

Here is you tube link of same vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2mOqQoFeQ

Be interested to hear others comments/interpretations of the vid.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 3:43 PM  

@215 michaeloh59

If you browse the antifa blogs/forums they are whining all over the place. they dont want to get hit. There are a handful of serious antifa players, but most are LARPing

Blogger michaeloh59 April 17, 2017 4:13 PM  

Grayman wrote:@215 michaeloh59

If you browse the antifa blogs/forums they are whining all over the place. they dont want to get hit. There are a handful of serious antifa players, but most are LARPing


I haven't browsed their forums but the video supports your conclusion. Out of hundreds of Nazifa there were a couple of tough guys. Most of the rest are rabbits.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 4:22 PM  

@213

Dammit Grayman, I want to see a giant phallus penetrating Antifa's lines as some sort of allegorical illustration of cucks getting cucked. I need this. LET. ME. HAVE. THIS.

In all seriousness though it's a good point. Get your bruisiest brusiers charging at a good speed to shock line lines followed up by the main fighters to exploit the shattered line would be effective, sadly I am no where near large enough to qualify.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 17, 2017 4:59 PM  

Johnc, how do you suggest someone raise holy hell? Serious question, not rhetorical.

Blogger Cail Corishev April 17, 2017 5:09 PM  

There are a handful of serious antifa players, but most are LARPing.

That's been my assumption for a while. There appear to be some actual trained rabble-rousers, reminiscent of 1960s radicals like the Weathermen, who intend on violence and may have some experience with it. Then there are a whole bunch of college kids and liberals like that one who reported on reddit, who think "punching a Nazi" sounds like more fun than an Occupy rally, as long as it's neat and clean and they can run up and take their sucker-punch and then go laugh with their friends about it over lattes at Starbucks.

Their main threat is they provide a crowd for the serious fighters to hide in, but they're going to wilt in a hurry when they see things like that porn star getting dropped in one shot. I don't see who's going to replace them, either, short of outright recruiting mercenaries across the board.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 5:41 PM  

Cali

Pornstar? More like porn fail!

The LARPers can be dangerous if you do something stupid as they will dog pile you. But they will wilt in front of any determined physical confrontation.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 6:03 PM  

Right before the flying V's engage we need to crank up some big fat speakers with something to set the mood.

This might be a good mood setter ;)

https://youtu.be/W8uyMJQH9pY

Blogger JimR April 17, 2017 6:13 PM  

@222 too slow a pace, good song, but too slow. Low energy.

something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA

Gotta love the lameg drums, stirs the soul to action.

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 6:31 PM  

@219 Johnc, how do you suggest someone raise holy hell? Serious question, not rhetorical.

I think it starts with at least pushing the conversation among ourselves that we have to start making demands and holding authorities accountable and we can't accept being treated as non-citizens in our own country. It would be nice to see more coordinated reporting pushing these kinds of demands between right-wing media platforms. I think that could help to channel the narrative a bit on our side and get us sufficiently riled up. And we have to get riled up.

The right isn't very good at organizing and being loud*, so it's a bit of a learning experience for us. Some of that means trial and error, and some of that means observing the successful methods of the left.

After the Milo thing we really needed to demand an investigation, demand an explanation, and demand a resignation, and simply not relented until we got those responses in a satisfactory manner. The right didn't do that and now what's going to happen when Ann Coulter goes to Berkeley at the end of the month?

Do we have anybody on our side who is wealthy and is sympathetic to correcting these government abuses? If we do let's work with them. There has to be connected people out there; people who run Breitbart or Drudge or Alex Jones or something?

I don't know. Let's at least have the conversation on the right. I just think we have to draw closer red lines in terms of what we allow. In general the right is just way too permissive and patient with government abuses.

If I was a many multi-millionaire I'd have the problem at Berkeley solved. Either through bribes (which are called "grants" and "donations") or threats of lawsuits. These people are human; they're corrupt; they're fools. We should be able to beat them. Lawsuits can be very effective at fishing out information where an investigation is absent.

FWIW, for the most part, you don't see this with NYPD. Most Trump rallies in NYC can go on without violence. And that's under a commie mayor.

(* Though the young generation with the 4chans and the reddits are getting pretty good at this. When they're motivated they can take people down quite effectively.)

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 6:44 PM  

One tactic that works is that we can shame the hell out of the cops. Widespread internet shame. All over Twitter, Facebook, everything. That works because it creates a mutiny from within. And we can see they're starting to crack. Cops don't like being called wusses and they're going to start pushing back against their superiors or, better yet, come out anonymously with the insider details about stand-down orders.

We can't have people throwing M-80s into our rallies and not being arrested. That goes for assaults and pepper spray too. If they came with guns and shot 20 Trump supporters and the cops stood back and did nothing, would we let that go? What would we do? What methods would we use to hold the city accountable? Do we have to wait for it to escalate to gunshots before we act against the city?

Blogger PDQ April 17, 2017 7:10 PM  

is anyone sitting with their mouth agape as they read of this going on with no intervention from any sort of law enforcement, local or federal?

this is a terrible precedent and I suspect when it reaches ever pitch, only then will the federal government step in and crush all involved. this will be the excuse for whatever totalitarian state they have planned.

if this is not the case then WHY is no-one doing anything? these antifa-types are DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. aren't there laws against domestic terrorism? (that was a rhetorical question).

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 7:23 PM  

@226

It isn't necessarily true that authorities haven't gotten involved, they just haven't gotten involved in Berkley. Antifa tried a bunch a stuff in Portland OR, none the least of which physically impeding traffic in the down town area, and the PPD came out in full riot gear, tackled a few of them, and the rest dispersed like the wusses that they are. It's actually quiet entertaining to watch another video where they tried to force their way into a city hall session and their women folk wailing as a bunch of them were hauled away.

The results of Berkley have to be incredibly demoralizing for them as that is supposed to be their home ground, they pretty much had the support of the political body there and lost, it's gotta be even more disheartening when you hear guys like Stickman blatantly say they are going to go to every liberal city in America and confront them. I highly doubt Antifa will find a passive police force in NY or even Chicago.

Anonymous Eduardo April 17, 2017 7:27 PM  

I didn't really liked one of thise videos where an m-80 blew right behind and in the middle of the Trump supporters. When the guy filmed the place it blew, all I could think was that it could've been worse.

You can sue the city. Juuuuust search engine for: "suing a city"

If you get enough people to band together to sue Berkeley you may have a victory in your hand, an important one.

But JohnC, you do notice that people are itching for this fight right? Sooner or later more brawls will come. You can only stop these people by demonetizing them, and destroying their image to the Left. This fight is a push back, not a fight for the right to be deemed normal by society.

Anonymous GithYankee April 17, 2017 10:00 PM  

JohnC you are absolutely right.
The problem is that, as you can see, a lot of us LIKE to fight. The police standing down is not a problem, it's a Christmas present. These fey college kids are just a warmup for BLM. La Raza. Muslim Brotherhood. I don't know what country you're in, but in mine the law has fled the scene. America is a prison yard without guards.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 17, 2017 10:36 PM  

@229
I don't know so much that I like fighting as I've gotten to the point where I see no alternative. Letting antifa effectively take my freedom of speech away by attempts at physical intimidation, and lack of willingness by authorities to defend my person, is a not an option.

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 11:38 PM  

Hey if you guys want to fight I'm not going to tell you your business. I'll be like that scene where Fr. Carmine gives Rocky a blessing before the fight.

Just be careful... and make sure you win.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 18, 2017 12:17 AM  

201. Grayman April 17, 2017 11:26 AM
A new game for protests... Who can ziptie the most antifa. Sort of like calf roping in a rodeo



you're getting 20 for $18. if you're hobbling as well as handcuffing, that's 10 fags subdued.

while yours are nicely specialized, i can get 2000 of 18" length for $103

http://lecoplastics.com/cable-ties.aspx

and i'll be zipping them at the elbows and knees as well as the wrists and ankles.



223. JimR April 17, 2017 6:13 PM
something like this



both of you are low energy. you want something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMaOmDtaYI

Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People" would also be good, simply for the 'It's not your fault that you're always wrong ... old fashioned fascism will take it all away' lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypkv0HeUvTc

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2017 12:37 AM  

I like a good scrap, but I'm old enough I'd just get my ass handed to meby a young guy.. I guess I'll have to report for "punching webcam whores and journalists" duty.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 18, 2017 12:37 AM  

ohhhh, I Hate My Generation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsNsOhyG8I

Anonymous Grayman April 18, 2017 2:27 AM  

@229 GithYankee

You are correct, antifa is warmup, training wheels, for the coming conflicts with BLM. La Raza. Muslim Brotherhood.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 18, 2017 2:39 AM  

I think it starts with at least pushing the conversation among ourselves that we have to start making demands and holding authorities accountable and we can't accept being treated as non-citizens in our own country.

Well, we elected Trump, didn't we?

I do sympathize with your position - it is ridiculous that the institutions of our society are siding with the suicidal idiots of the Left - but I don't put a great deal of faith in "holding them accountable." They're Leftists - rules, consequences and accountability are for other people. If they were decent enough people for "holding them accountable" to work, they wouldn't be doing half the things we need to hold them accountable for in the first place.

Perhaps it's not too late to vote them out of office, but even if we do that, we face the problem of levering them out of the courts, bureaucracy, and universities, where they have done everything they can to insulate themselves from electoral accountability.

Are you old enough to remember the 2000 election Florida recount fiasco? They tried to steal the election for Gore and maybe the only thing that stopped them was a bunch of Cubans pounding on the doors where they were fabricating ballots for Gore. Our society - and I do mean our society, not the bastardized, zombified version they are promulgating - is based on trust and honor. They have no honor and rely on abusing trust. The means by which you advocate we fight them only work with us, they don't work on them. To the degree we can rouse our side to "hold them accountable", we should do so.

But that leaves open the question of exactly how we hold them accountable. Through the corrupted and converged court system? Dubious. Very dubious. By the time we have reformed the court system sufficiently to have any confidence it would hold them accountable, it won't be quite so vital, the crisis will have passed.

Anonymous Learn how to sew, or something, Christ April 18, 2017 3:16 AM  

If you were there, fighting on either side, you didn't have much to contribute to society.

NORMAL PEOPLE WERE AT WORK DOING THINGS THAT MATTERED.

christ, the Christ complex of self-important blowhards of zero import.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope April 18, 2017 3:33 AM  

Eduardo, thanks for your update.
I was wondering why no one goes after all the Nazifa photographers running around and getting in everyone's face.

How does a revolution go after the enemy media? Given that most of them hate white protestant straight men and the American nationalist cause, is it worth going after them or is it better to slowly cultivate some of them as allies?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2017 5:36 AM  

Learn how to sew, or something, Christ wrote:NORMAL PEOPLE WERE AT WORK DOING THINGS THAT MATTERED.
Normal people refusing to engage is why we have gay "marriage" and pervs allowed in little girls bathrooms. The Left won't stop for reason, the won't stop for logic, nor for history, nor for law, nor for decency, nor for honor, nor for love, family, country, or God. They are working to erase all those things from the face of the earth.

They will only stop for fear.

You think you're clever, but you're just another cuck, not just ready to surrender the moment some Leftie mental patient starts shrieking, you'll be ready to defend the latest as ancient tradition in 6 months.
If you haven't the courage for this fight, just admit it to yourself, you're too weak to endure bestirring yourself or to hear the professionally offended call you names.
And, in the meantime, get out of the way.

Anonymous GithYankee April 18, 2017 7:12 AM  

@239: Well, in some ways you are right - the best thing we can do for America is have well-raised, resilient white Christian children.
But my guess is you are not from somewhere "diverse". In my small city, with a heretofore nonexistent crime rate, there is now a barrio of Nicaraguans who have kicked all the blacks out of their old neighborhood. They fly a Nicaraguan flag over the area, and shelter the local heroin dealers. The blacks have spread all over town, wherever anyone will take their welfare housing vouchers. The white girls have taken to exclusive mudsharking, previously the domain of only the ugly, addicted or fat. Not 1 in 10 kids born here is white, despite a 70% white population. (was 90% only 20 years ago). The white boys are hiding in their basements playing warcraft and 4chan, or blasting rap trying to fit in. Jobs are scarce even for white people; we're cut off by illegals on the low end, and Indians/Asians on the high end.
To defeat us, all the Left has to do is have tons of unprotected sex. Throw garbage on the street. Play loud music late into the night. Rob anyone with more money around them.
Step 1 is take back Freedom of Speech. It's a big step. After that, we can roll back hate speech, affirmative action, welfare state, etc. Your plan of "just get a job" is okay, as long as there is a "job", which is a more and more tenuous proposition.

Blogger Brandon April 18, 2017 10:50 AM  

As it has been written, let it be done.

Anonymous johnc April 18, 2017 12:01 PM  

@240 I was wondering why no one goes after all the Nazifa photographers running around and getting in everyone's face.

If you're looking for some laughs:

I saw something tonight that really bothered me and I need to get it off my chest.
Video from today's protest in Berkeley right before I got hit in the head by a masked white antiFa protestor for filming them.

Blogger wreckage April 18, 2017 12:49 PM  

The advantage of a giant foam phallic battering ram is that nobody will be able to take it seriously. Any attempt to make it a brutal attack by brutal Trump brutes will founder on the visuals of a giant padded schlong knocking Antifa over.

Whoever came up with the idea is a latent propaganda genius. Not only should Cockservative happen, it MUST happen.

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