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Friday, April 14, 2017

Nationalism intensifies

As if yet another indicator were necessary, overseas adoptions are at a 35-year low:
Overseas adoptions by Americans have dipped to the lowest level in 35 years, data released on Wednesday showed. The State Department reported that it issued 5,372 visas to children who were adopted abroad or were coming to the United States to be adopted by American parents in 2016, down from 5,648 in 2015 — and a fraction of the 22,884 overseas adoptions in 2004, the peak.
There are, of course, a variety of factors involved. The economy is bad, fewer people are getting married, and married women who are not inclined to bear and raise their own children are even less inclined to raise someone else's children.

That being said, the decline of international adoption in America is interesting in light of the celebrity fad for virtue signaling by adopting Africans; those religiously reading People magazine would almost certainly have assumed the complete opposite. First, it is a sign of rising national consciousness by other nations who don't want their children to be taken away and raised as pseudo-Americans. And second, it is a sign that Americans are beginning to realize that many of their friends and neighbors don't admire their cuckish virtue or generosity for giving a home to yet another invader.

About ten years ago, a straniera we knew was shocked by how she was not infrequently met with sneers and disdainful glares by Italians when she was out and about with her adopted African daughter. She found it hard to understand that they did not, on the whole, view her decision as a good thing or consider her to be a good person as a consequence. It would be understandable if this European nationalist perspective is becoming increasingly common in the USA as Americans find it harder and harder to recognize the society in which they live.

Besides, what need is there to go to Somalia to adopt Somalians anymore? You can find tens of thousands of them in Minneapolis now.

The money quote: "No children were adopted from Russia, once a major source; it shut out prospective American parents for political reasons three years ago."

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Anonymous Kreator April 14, 2017 4:38 AM  

Yes, an Italian friend of mine and I see it in Greece all the time, mixed race (read that: black) kids and couples are getting some nasty looks over and over when they appear.

People, deep inside them know these men and women side with the enemy, and while they may not voice protest (now) eyes are the soul's mirror, and they reflect much.

Blogger Robert What? April 14, 2017 4:43 AM  

Virtue signalling cucks can still adopt a 28 year old migrant "child".

Blogger Sherwood family April 14, 2017 4:53 AM  

Looks like now everyone and everything is racist. Turns out that not only are Americans and Europeans growing more nationalist and "racist"...but even artificial intelligence has now been proven to be racist. http://www.livescience.com/58675-artificial-intelligence-learns-biases-from-human-language.html

Maybe the fact that even artificial intelligence comes to certain conclusions and associations should help people understand that some things simply ARE.

But reading the article I linked makes me think that the lesson they will take is the need to reprogram things so the AI gets it "right".

In the future Skynet will not be full of Terminators coming to destroy you, but robot HR diversity coordinators who will make sure you check your privilege and understand your inherent racism as a white male.

Blogger Antony April 14, 2017 4:55 AM  

Europe has a history of regarding women who collaborate very harshly, I think the sneering attitude is still there, just repressed ; https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=women+collaborators+shaved+photos&client=gmail&rls=aso&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI5datyKPTAhUHKcAKHQpQBqAQsAQIJA&biw=1680&bih=873#imgrc=hzlsVEymYTDH-M:

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 14, 2017 5:01 AM  

About ten years ago, a straniera we knew was shocked by how she was not infrequently met with sneers and disdainful glares by Italians when she was out and about with her adopted African daughter. She found it hard to understand that they did not, on the whole, view her decision as a good thing or consider her to be a good person as a consequence.

That's disgusting. Clearly Europe isn't safe for the vibrants who have emigrated there, and the vibrants need to be repatriated for their own safety and well-being. If it saves just one life, it's worth it.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable April 14, 2017 5:02 AM  

On a semi-related topic, I predict a cascade of major interracial foster care abuse scandals -- at least three so big that even Carlos Slim's blog can't ignore -- within the next six months.

My mental model holds that advantages that can be taken will be, by those sufficiently immoral. And Christian Native Europeans are pretty much the only peoples on the planet that will be good when no one is watching. And our high-trust society is very exploitable.

Anonymous Looking Glass April 14, 2017 5:23 AM  

https://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/about-us/statistics.html

With Russia closing off the pipeline, it's mostly down to China, and even that is far down. For as much as there was a lot of African child adoption virtue signaling, the numbers suggest it's mostly been East Asian or Eastern European children that were adopted. Most of the collapse seems to be African adoption collapse.

Though, let's be really honest, most entering the age-bracket for an adoption simply wouldn't have the money. Destroying the American Family is a multi-faceted past-time for the Progressives.

Blogger Dexter April 14, 2017 6:01 AM  

IIRC the "political" reason Russia cut off adoptions is some American parents left their Russian adopted kid in a hot car for hours and he died of heat stroke.

Blogger APL April 14, 2017 6:19 AM  

Anthony: "Europe has a history of regarding women who collaborate very harshly,"

Looking at those photo's, it struck me that one of the marks of shame, the shaved head, has now been adopted by the lesbian and strong independent woman, as her hallmark.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE April 14, 2017 6:27 AM  

@4
At least the women collaborators normally got to live. The men were rounded up and shot. Makes you wonder which remedy made it less likely for people to collaborate in the future.

I know quite a lot of people who have tried to adopt and who work in the adoption industry. One of the big reasons for the decline in foreign adoptions is the dearth of white children available for adoption abroad, especially after Russia stopped allowing adoptions. No matter the locale in the US, the vast majority of children up for adoption are black, with a decent number if hispanic children mixed in. Most adopting families are white, and for obvious reasons they prefer to adopt white children. Exacerbating this imbalance is the fact that family dysfunction is now the norm rather than the exception in black families and that there are very few intact black families looking to adopt as well.

This means if you are a white family wanting to adopt, it's generally pretty hard to find any white children to adopt because there are often other white families literally waiting for white children to become available for adoption.

Overseas adoption helped fill some of this need for some time (mostly families well off enough to pay all of the fees and travel expenses needed). The problem is that if you can't find white children to adopt at home, and there's none available abroad, you can either give up, or you can adopt a nonwhite child. If you decide to do that, there's literally no point in jumping thru all of the extra hoops and paying the higher costs to adopt a foreign nonwhite child - there is no shortage of nonwhite children waiting for adoption stateside that can be had much more easily

After all, most of the intact families with the money and inclination to adopt are generally white couples in which the wife waited too long to get serious about marriage and children, at least in my experience. That is something becoming more and more common, just like the ever-increasing levels of family dysfunction in the black community producing more and more black children for adoption.

Anonymous Looking Glass April 14, 2017 6:48 AM  

@9 APL

Like tattoos, it's still a mark of shame. They adopt it for the f-u aspect, but it clearly gnaws at their souls. You can't stay that tormented without the self-reinforcement of multiple outside effects.

Blogger Antony April 14, 2017 7:11 AM  

Re the "collaborators" issue, and how women who slept with enemy soldiers were regarded by the rest of the population - especially european men - there is a discussion to be had about the "emotive" subject of how "coalburners" are regarded, I don't think this is an out-of-date view, it has just been repressed into people's subconscious as they have been indoctrinated into not talking about it.

Anonymous Teapartydoc April 14, 2017 7:11 AM  

For a few decades we no longer had the right to subject people to public ridicule. Social media has brought that back.

Blogger VD April 14, 2017 7:21 AM  

Find a different handle please, "FUCK GOOGLE".

Blogger Durandel Almiras April 14, 2017 7:24 AM  

This is an excellent trend and I hope it continues. I'm crude at times, my wife and I were at a Mass (Catholic) and this white woman and her Chinese husband had adopted an African child. They came up to us because we were new to the parish. They, being friendly, I politely said we really didn't want to be friends with people who like to virtue signal by adopting children who bear no resemblance or cultural heritage with the adopting parents. The woman's jaw dropped. Chinese hubby seemed a bit more based as his jaw tightened but he just gave a slight nod with his head.

Every time I see such adoptions, I get sick. It's worse than miscegenation. There are plenty of white babies of your own local people that need adopting.

Blogger MrPaules April 14, 2017 7:44 AM  

I know a number of white couples who have adopted black children. The problem unanticipated by these well-meaning people is that when the children grow up, many of them revert as adults to the behavioral mean of the race. This causes their parents a lifetime of emotional pain I do not wish upon anyone. I can't say whether the decision to adopt in the first place was virtue signaling or genuine Christian charity, but the situation thus produced rarely works out well. It's proof positive that the races are not equal, a lesson my liberal friends will never internalize despite the evidence of personal experience. It's tragic.

Blogger mjusiq April 14, 2017 7:46 AM  

As I have Norwegian friends working for the-african-aid-industrial-complex since the late 80s - its been a huge change among them. Its not very outspoken here in Norway - but the common rule (the last 12-15 years) among these aid workers is: do not adopt an african child. Why? They acknowledge that even a child that is 2 years old - will have little chance for success in a western society - they have friends and former co-workers from earlier projects years back which adopted a african child/youth and have told about their experiences. There are huge problems: failure in school, violence, crime, drugs and more. Among aid workers its today an openess to these facts - and anyone working with aid in Africa thinking about adopting will get a fact-orientation: don't do it. I do believe this have an impact on the numbers. (I was in Malawi visiting some friends there at the time when Madonna adopted a child (or two) there - among my friends and others - they had a good laugh of her stupidity and virtue signaling.)

OpenID anonymos-coward April 14, 2017 7:50 AM  

IIRC the "political" reason Russia cut off adoptions is some American parents left their Russian adopted kid in a hot car for hours and he died of heat stroke.

It's a wonder and a source of shame that it was legal for a time in the first place.

"International adoption" is just a nicer way to say "human trafficking".

You have no control over the child's fate once the child leaves the country. For all you know he'll be made into sausage once he hits American soil, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Anonymous Laz April 14, 2017 7:52 AM  

"...it is a sign that Americans are beginning to realize that many of their friends and neighbors don't admire their cuckish virtue..."

I know it's anecdotal, but almost everybody I know is still in that cuck mindset. The Christian conservatives just don't get it. I even had to tell my boss, "She is a person but she isn't an American." Which he completely didn't understand.

Blogger Paul R April 14, 2017 7:55 AM  

Not really on the level of adoption, but I volunteered to help teach a group of foster kids how to surf the other day. I knew there would be a bunch of blacks there, but I did manage to arrange matters such that I always happened to be helping a white kid. I'm so sick and tired of pretty much all minorities, but wiggers and virtue signalers are even worse.

Anonymous Laz April 14, 2017 7:56 AM  

"There are plenty of white babies of your own local people that need adopting."

The PTB haven't let whites adopt whites in this country in decades.

Blogger rumpole5 April 14, 2017 8:23 AM  

In the Cayman Islands, where my wwifewas born, it is not uncommon for full siblings to be white and nonwhite in appearance. There wasn't sufficient good soil to support a plantation economy, so a small freeholder economy developed wherein the planting was to feed the family, and the men went to sea to turtle, pick bird eggs, haul freight and lumber, and the like. There was no need of large numbers of servants to work plantations. The resulting Cayman population is 1/3 white, 1/3 mixed (brown skinned with Euro features, like blue eyes, straight "good" hair, long thin noses and thin lips, non jutting jaws, & the like), and 1/3 African looking. Based on years of seeing the offspring, I never second guess the relationship, or not, of kids who look different from parent and/or sibling.

Blogger Nate April 14, 2017 8:27 AM  

i have an old friend from highschool... white dude... pretty blonde blue-eyed wife...

never had kids. always said they didn't want kids when they were in their 20s and early 30s... and now they're begging money from everyone to adopt their 3rd kid from china. 2nd girl they adopted died of a nasty heart condition at only 3 months old... after our healthcare system spent about half a million dollars trying to save her.

The are having a really hard time getting donations this time, compared to the other times. And that's interesting because you know there has to be a sympathy boost in there. And in spite of that the numbers are still down.

Blogger Lovekraft April 14, 2017 8:28 AM  

Heard the latest? Charlize Theron (South African) adopted a black boy and has been dressing him up as a girl. You could write an entire thesis on how this event captures the entire feminist/virtue signalling movement.

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00104854.html

Blogger Nate April 14, 2017 8:29 AM  

"The PTB haven't let whites adopt whites in this country in decades."

you can.. but you have to do it through the foster system. Which is abomination.

Darlin' Joy successfully adopted two baby white girls. But she had hell doing it. and she had to go through the foster system.

Blogger Robert Divinity April 14, 2017 8:30 AM  

IIRC the "political" reason Russia cut off adoptions is some American parents left their Russian adopted kid in a hot car for hours and he died of heat stroke.

A few years previously Putin suspended adoptions after a dissatisfied Tennessee woman returned via an airline an unaccompanied boy, with a note attached critical of the product.

I read another press account of this story yesterday. It indicated State was "hopeful" it could "encourage more adoptions." When did this become national policy, exactly?

Anonymous Sixth largest island April 14, 2017 8:32 AM  

@1 I was living in an apt. building in Athens a few years back. There was a Greek woman in another unit who upon whom a child had been sired by a Caribbean black. They left in all haste for Australia with their mulatto boy when they sniffed which way the wind was blowing.

Blogger MrPaules April 14, 2017 8:35 AM  

@22

The situation you describe is true of Hispanics as well. The white/red hybrid can manifest as nearly anything. I had three Mexican students from the same family who were dramatically different in appearance. One European looking, one a typical mixed brown, while the third looked like an Aztec princess. What we are racially should be determined by our genetic blueprint, not our looks. I'm sure Vox would concur.

Blogger Lovekraft April 14, 2017 8:38 AM  

Here's heartiste's take on the Theron:

https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/2017/04/13/when-unicef-adoption-isnt-a-strong-enough-virtue-signal/

Blogger Cail Corishev April 14, 2017 9:03 AM  

It indicated State was "hopeful" it could "encourage more adoptions." When did this become national policy, exactly?

Probably soon after abortion became national policy. Bring in the rest of the world's "unwanted" children, so you don't have any reason not to dispose of your own.

I remember when the hip place to adopt from was Romania and other ex-Soviet states with high poverty. But those kids were white, so it figures that the need to virtue signal eventually shifted the focus to Asia (for a little virtue, and you could still hope for a smart one) and Africa (for hard-core amounts of virtue). Maybe part of it is that they've run out of new, hipper places to adopt from.

My mom, a sensible, conservative-minded woman, was gushing about a TV show where parents had triplets and one died in childbirth, so they adopted a black child who was abandoned at the hospital at the same time. I guess the show takes place after the triplets have grown up, with flashbacks to childhood. Of course the black adopted son is the smart, wealthy one who works in a math-heavy field. I had a hard time keeping my eyes from rolling at that.

That kind of narrative-pushing has been coming fast and thick these days, through shows and ads and everything else. People may swallow it when it's part of a show that's well-made and tugs at their heart-strings, but they also notice how hard it's being pushed, and there's bound to be push-back eventually.

Blogger Robert Divinity April 14, 2017 9:15 AM  

@30:

All solid points.

Maybe seven- and eight-year-old transgendered children can be the new way to virtue signal for the dwindling market that wants to do so. I'm trying to recall, but in addition to the Tennessee woman who returned her defective Russian product (what a perfect metaphor for modern feminism) it seems a few celebrities also made some more lowkey returns after the attention fell flat.

Anonymous Frank Luke April 14, 2017 9:25 AM  

@3

Here is the money quote from Sherwood's article on AI and bias.

"We don't think that removing bias would necessarily solve these problems, because it's probably going to break the accurate representation of the world," she said.

Somehow I don't think she's realizing what she just said. Bias comes from seeing an accurate representation of the world.

Anonymous Avalanche April 14, 2017 9:42 AM  

@15 "Every time I see such adoptions, I get sick. It's worse than miscegenation."

And a huge follow-on problem I see is that: all these niglets raised in White families grow up pretty much unable to make a marriage in their own race. A White (well, (((half-White))) friend of mine had married a negress (well before he was awakened; she divorced him later -- for a black man!). They had adopted two supposedly White/black-mix girl infants (although it turned out, on more growth, that one was black-asian). These are very well brought up, reasonably smart, decorous young ladies now -- ( fundie Catholics, it helps!) -- so HOW will they find black men at least as smart and well raised as they are? And their own "parents" showed them a(n unsuccessful) mixed-race marriage.

Examples make it "acceptable" -- so I try to use subtle 'shunning' when I see such miscegenation: very slight frown (which, no doubt, entirely matches my 'micro-expression'), looking away, turning away.

Anonymous BBGKB April 14, 2017 9:45 AM  

Wouldn't it be funny if David French's niglet shield lost it's virtue signaling points before it learned to multiply?

but even artificial intelligence has now been proven to be racist

"a computer would add another tally to its "black=jail" category." So what they would have to do is make computers think fictional TV is real instead of basing data on objective reality.

On a semi-related topic, I predict a cascade of major interracial foster care abuse scandals

Social workers want to take as many white kids from families as possible, but will let niglets stew in filth & drugs.

The PTB haven't let whites adopt whites in this country in decades.

The trick is being white gay or white lesbian couples.

Of course the black adopted son is the smart, wealthy one who works in a math-heavy field

Last nights "chicongo med" had a genius niggerette hacker, a blond rapist who got castrated and a bad blond single mom. Reality has black moms putting lead fishing sinkers in their kids mouths for a lead paint payout, 2 weeks ago a black surgeon was caught raping patients,& math is the biggest difference between blacks and Asians/whites.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 14, 2017 9:48 AM  

If anything overseas would demonstrate that they are opposite of a good person and that they are a person that is willing to put the good of their nation, and the legions of children in their nation who need parents, beneath their ego.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 14, 2017 9:59 AM  

@3 Sherwood family

I caught up on a few recent episodes of S.H.I.E.L.D. yesterday. The AI there AIDA has created a virtual world where Hydra has won.

Blogger haus frau April 14, 2017 10:16 AM  

This is a good thing in the long run for everyone involved. I've always thought it odd that parents would go out of their way to adopt a child that looks nothing like them. The radio host Michael Berry is a prime example. He's white and his wife is Indian (dot). They went to Ethiopia to adopt. Are their no kids in India, at least, that they could have adopted? Why go out of the way to adopt children that have absolutely no shared heritage?
Children aren't blank slates. They belong to their parents, then their extended family, then their community, then their own society, etc. International adoption severs all these bonds. It should never have become a fad or the "easy" way to buy a child. When the adoption doesn't work out the child is left alone and rudderless. There was a case of siblings adopted from Korea living in Portland. The parents never filed the citizenship paperwork and turned them over to foster care when they got tired of them. The son was just deported to korea when he tried to get his greencard as a 35yr old man. Doesn't even know Korean and yet clearly he's not American. It is a good thing that Russia and China keep their children.

Blogger Gordon April 14, 2017 10:20 AM  

I think that the growing list of horror stories associated with foreign adoption is affecting the numbers also. Too many people, after years of waiting for a white American baby, decided to go for a quick, easy (but not cheap) Chinese, Romanian or Korean baby.

The thing is, them furriners ain't stupid. They're not selling the quality kids to the white demons. They're ridding themselves of the autistic, those with behavioral issues, and those with hidden birth defects. Let the rich Americans pay the cost of dealing with those problems.

Blogger Out of Nod April 14, 2017 10:51 AM  

I think cost plays a big role - in Haiti last year, I had the opportunity to meet a couple who were trying to adopt twin girls; they had lost their parents to the earthquake. The couple was billed at around $30,000 and were in their 4th in attempt to bring the girls to America.

This was fairly normal.

The adoption agency attributed the difficulty to government corruption and not so much a sense of nationalistic pride. Adoption is an expensive and time consuming process, even stateside.

Blogger Cail Corishev April 14, 2017 10:52 AM  

From what I've heard from adoptive parents, it's hard enough even when the kids do basically look like you. It's not unusual for a couple to raise kids for 18 years and then watch them go hunting down their biological parents and form an instant bond with them. That's bound to be much more likely when the differences are more stark.

Blogger Daniel April 14, 2017 10:56 AM  

It is easy and fast to adopt an ukranian kid(s). I know two families HERE in Argentina that did it. But adopting white people do not virtue signal that much

Blogger Daniel April 14, 2017 11:01 AM  

"We decided that our first kid woukld be adopted" What kind of cuckery is that? wtf???

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 14, 2017 11:17 AM  

Lovekraft wrote:Heard the latest? Charlize Theron (South African) adopted a black boy and has been dressing him up as a girl. You could write an entire thesis on how this event captures the entire feminist/virtue signalling movement.

Looks like Stephan Jenkins dodged a bullet. A big one.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 14, 2017 11:41 AM  

@39 Out of Nod

Heh, that might be cutting down on the adopting Africans thing. Okay, you can virtue-signal with your black child... but you'll have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege.

That said, I have a huge problem with adoption. Especially of Africans. At least with race-mixing the kids are half of your race.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 14, 2017 11:42 AM  

(And yes, I of course consider Haitians to be just as African as people from Senegal or Cote d'Ivoire. Heck, they often even speak bastardized French.)

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 14, 2017 12:02 PM  

Georgia Tann made it easy to steal white infants from Appalachia. She was the major voice for social-worker facilitated adoption for decades.

Blogger Tom K. April 14, 2017 12:19 PM  

Or perhaps too many of the adopting "parents" were two men or two women. Because as wonderfully tolerant and open-minded as I am about the life choices good people make when they choose to gay and proud, it is only in the West that that kind of shit is tolerated. And in other parts of the world they'd much rather throw the double dads and moms off a building.

Blogger Sheila4g April 14, 2017 12:27 PM  

The majority of international adoptions I'm personally aware of have been to dysfunctional couples and/or individuals. The SJW nurse practitioner in one embassy had one adopted Indonesian kid with serious behavioral issues and then added a mixed Vietnamese/Gypsy [if I recall, over initial vehement protests of her significantly older house husband]. Some friends [White male - Thai female marriage] who were unable to conceive adopted a mixed White/Vietnamese infant [and later paid for and "adopted" an southeast Asian boy who they were never allowed to take physical custody of]. The girl [who we haven't seen in more than 2 decades] recently got married and then, within a year, divorced. The American couple who adopted two American White infants were quick to leave their daily care to a foreign nanny while the wife worked at various non-vital jobs at the embassy and continued to suffer repeated miscarriages trying to have the biological child the adopted ones clearly did not sufficiently substitute for.

The sole "success" story I can think of was one of my son's teachers, a Korean adopted by devout Christian American parents. She had no sense of Korean identity and no desire to search out her birth parents and, she claimed, nothing but love and gratitude for her adoptive parents. She also married a White American.

I realize I could/should look it up, but do even other countries of mixed European heritage, like Canada and Australia, have even a fraction of the international/interracial adoptions America does? Is there something about having a mixed heritage [even if it's all European] that breeds a further need for mixing, or is it merely a product of churchianity and relentless propaganda about racism and the blank slate?

Blogger Out of Nod April 14, 2017 12:35 PM  

@44 @45 VFM #7634 - Haiti is a giant red pill if you have the eyes to see...nationalism, HBD, western supremacy, cuckianity, and even the results of deposing western rule...all in a nice package!

Anonymous Rfvujm April 14, 2017 12:52 PM  

Genuine Christian charity or genuine Churchian charity?

Blogger Ezekiel April 14, 2017 12:55 PM  

Dexter wrote:IIRC the "political" reason Russia cut off adoptions is some American parents left their Russian adopted kid in a hot car for hours and he died of heat stroke.
They might as well have cited what happens when you mix Slavic lack of judgement and impulse control with libertine American decadence. The people who shop in Eastern Europe tend to be neurotic yuppies who inevitably overindulge their already-damaged products, so by 18 they've turned into worse examples of white trash than could ever be produced in America's trailer parks.

There are exceptions, but not many. The one success story I know (voted for Trump, no history of mudsharking, no abortions, not a single mom, not fatter than her husband, not much dumber than rural Alabama average) is technically from Latvia, not Russia; gets very mad if I ever accuse her of being a degenerate Muscovite snownigger.

Blogger Robert Divinity April 14, 2017 12:59 PM  

@48

As far as Australia goes, all the hand-wringing over the "Stolen Generations" generally omits some unpleasant facts. The fostered Aboriginal children weren't competitive or even adaptive to Western education, mores and culture. There was some post-war, guilt-tripped adoption of Vietnamese children in Australia, with better results, but past experience had shown the potential for disaster.

While I'm unaware of any similar studies of the similar program to place Native American children in white homes in the latter half of the 19th Century, I suspect the results also were dismal.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 14, 2017 1:02 PM  

Tom K. wrote:And in other parts of the world they'd much rather throw the double dads and moms off a building.
There was the case a couple of years ago of an Australian "gay" couple who purchased a surrogate child in Russia, which is legally an adoption. They started molesting him at 22 months and by 6 years of age they were pimping him out to an entire network of child molesters.

In December 2012, Russia adopted the ‘Dima Yakovlev Law’ banning American citizens from adopting Russian children. In June 2013, The State Duma passed an amendment that bans the adoption of Russian children by same-sex couples from abroad.

“In forbidding foreign adoptions we put a barrier against scoundrels,” Astakhov said, pointing out that he knows a number of similar cases when foreigners adopted children with solely sexual intent.

And THAT's why you can't adopt Russian children.

Blogger Feather Blade April 14, 2017 1:08 PM  

FUCK GOOGLE wrote:No matter the locale in the US, the vast majority of children up for adoption are black, with a decent number if hispanic children mixed in. Most adopting families are white, and for obvious reasons they prefer to adopt white children.

Last I knew, US domestic adoption agencies, at the insistence of NAACP-type groups, said that black kids should only be adopted into black families. Because cultural erasure or something.

So that probably has something to do with the lack of domestic inter-racial adoptions.

Blogger DJ | AMDG April 14, 2017 1:37 PM  

We adopted from the HK SAR in 2014. Moderate to severe special needs. She was cared for in one of only two special needs orphanages in HK having only making room for her after spending her first 3 years in a hospital, not because of her disabilities but because there were no beds available in those two orphanages.

We attempted to adopt in 2007/08 from the mainland. A girl with less serious special needs. China killed the process 3/4 through as they did to dozens of other families like mine in 2007/08 leading up to the Beijing Olympics. South Korea did the same after they took tons of international flack for their adoption numbers the year they hosted the summer Olympics.

Russia, China, South Korea, and Guatemala were the primary nations for American families to adopt from, and by 2010 I think, all four had basically killed their programs. I think only China did so for nationalist reasons. Guatemalan adoptions were mired in corruption.

Domestic adoptions suffer from interventionist family courts, drug addicted mothers (drug related special needs a whole degree different then other kinds and perceived so as well) and DHS offices convinced blood family (no matter how impoverished financially, mentally, and emotionally) is better than adoptive families especially trans-racially. Tack onto to all that a domestic process that often takes longer and costs just as much, and you naturally will have families looking outside the country for a child. There are just less countries the US can partner with than before.

Blogger DJ | AMDG April 14, 2017 1:41 PM  

Yes it is.

Blogger DJ | AMDG April 14, 2017 1:43 PM  

India was not a Hague Convention (on adoption) nation as of 2010 the last time I checked. It was illegal, at least then, for Americans to adopt from India.

Anonymous Avalanche April 14, 2017 1:45 PM  

@48 " She had no sense of Korean identity ...She also married a White American."

Yeah, see? THAT is a problem! She has just ENDED FOREVER a White lineage. (Well, her "parents" have; and her White husband has ALSO ended (what I assume to be) a White lineage.) You can NEVER 'un-do' that mixture OUT of (three) bloodlines! It's over. Forever. No matter how firmly you try to breed back to a "pure" White or Korean line, it can't be done!

And this has not just civilizational ramifications, but also medical and genetic ones! You can do plasma transfusion across races pretty easily, but it's a lot dicier for whole blood transfusions. (Ever notice how they stump for "black blood donations" around high-accident times?). Organ transplants DON'T easily cross race lines. (Some) Drug efficacy applies differently to different races: if you 'create' a mixed-race child, and then need an organ transplant, the chances of finding a matching donor is massively less than for a 'pure' race child.

Yes, yes, no one is pure, blah blah blah -- but the chances of rejection or negative effects are WAY less if one shares a lot more bits-and-bobs of genetic/medical relationships than not! (And LOTS of those bits we haven't even identified yet!

Blogger Out of Nod April 14, 2017 1:55 PM  

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Blogger Out of Nod April 14, 2017 2:00 PM  

@48

Christianity has historically been a proponent of adoption and Christians are often encouraged to do so as it is an act that is modeled by God towards us. Romans 8:15 is presented to support this. The Christian believes that God has adopted him into God's family, so likewise the Christian is to do so in kind to others. Stories abound of how early Christians would take in abandoned infants off the streets and raise those children as their own. I love my kind, but we often suffer from being overly altruistic calling it trust, and we fail to exercise discernment and lack knowledge when making decisions on such matters.

Blogger Sheila4g April 14, 2017 2:42 PM  

@60 Out of Nod: Yes, Christianity encourages the care of widows and orphans, but not the modern conception of adoption per se. Read five part article on "reconsidering adoption" from Faith and Heritage 2015 [here's part 1] and 2017 articles criticizing Tim Tebow's proclaimed intent to interracially adopt this year.

Anonymous Rip April 14, 2017 2:52 PM  

Don't forget that America is 50-60% white now. And non-whites never adopt black and brown babies.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 14, 2017 3:12 PM  

@60 Out of Nod

The Christian believes that God has adopted him into God's family, so likewise the Christian is to do so in kind to others. Stories abound of how early Christians would take in abandoned infants off the streets and raise those children as their own.

This is true, but not what has been going on. There are still infants, toddlers and children in the US in need of adoption. Yes, that means working with the horrible foster system. But it can be done, I know infertile Christian couples who have done it. Those people are like your Christians above.

The business of going overseas to essentially buy a baby is more like an ancient Christian stepping over the abandoned infant in the street to board a ship bound for Egypt to buy an infant from the slave market. It's not the same thing.

There are orphanages in Africa, run by African Christians, with the Bible as their guide. That's where real African orphans are best helped, by their own people within their own culture. Not bought from a family, sold to a middleman, packed onto an airliner and shipped thousands of miles away to an alien land where they won't ever really fit in. That's what too much of the business of overseas adoption has been.

Blogger haus frau April 14, 2017 3:42 PM  

@57 My aunt and uncle adopted 4 children from India between the late 80s and late 90s. So, yes, Americans could adopt from India at least that long ago.

Anonymous BBGKB April 14, 2017 3:57 PM  

Oy Vey I hope pendulums don't start swinging back

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Blogger DJ | AMDG April 14, 2017 3:58 PM  

I don't about back then but it does seem in 2015 India finalized all procedures of The Hague. However they don't seem to allow adoption of "healthy" children under the age of six.

It's such a varying landscape, even with The Hague Convention. It's so difficult, I have told several people to flat out not do it. There are so many reasonable arguments NOT to adopt.

As for the "Christian" side of adoption, I'm a much bigger advocate for churches to fund and operate things like Safe Famlies and Hearts with a Mission than I am of adoption.

Blogger NO GOOGLES April 14, 2017 4:06 PM  

@54
Oh there are black groups that make noises threatening to lobby for such rules, but it never happens for a simple reason: if white families couldn't adopt black children, then black children wouldn't be adopted. Black families willing and able to adopt are basically unicorns, while white childless (or cucked beyond belief) families are much more common.

Blogger Out of Nod April 14, 2017 4:16 PM  

@61 Good read!

@63 Great analogy and I am in agreement!

Many of the problems in American Christianity stem from certain presentations of scripture which tends to elicit a certain emotional response. I think it is important to understand where the line of thought comes from, scripture through the teacher from the denomination/educational background, in attempts to find the truth and hopefully come up with a solution.

Adoption, especially internationally, is one such teaching. If anything it shows a naivete amongst the congregations and their teachers...or an unwillingness to see the world as it is.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper April 14, 2017 4:58 PM  

I'l glad to hear this.

Ignoring the downsides, if someone White wanted to adopt a Black child, there are plenty of them that are you know actually Americans and who need homes.

I think its generally a terrible idea and would not do this nor do permit is in my marriage baring say "child of someone who saved my life " level debt but I could understand it to some degree.

Adopting a foreign kid is nuts regardless of race (most Eastern European kids are broken)

Honestly, virtue signaling loops are the worst and keep people from things that would actually help like taking care of kin or even a foster kid for a little while.

Blogger NO GOOGLES April 14, 2017 6:41 PM  

@69
I would adopt my brother's kids if something happened to him - what upstanding family wouldn't?

Blogger Unknown April 14, 2017 6:55 PM  

The money quote: "No children were adopted from Russia, once a major source; it shut out prospective American parents for political reasons three years ago."

The money thought:

American seed is considered more of a blight by the Bear than the brown by the All Trite clown.

Make America great again? With Russian rejects? Better Vlad the impaler invade and spread the winning seed. It's time.

Anonymous Venom Froggy April 14, 2017 8:03 PM  

Way I see it, it's not the adoption of these foreign children that bothers me as much as the fact that many of these foreign children end up growing up to hate the very country (America) they were raised in and end up hating their white parents even more.

Once the public schools and/or colleges sink their hooks in, it's over. These ungrateful brats might as well have been raised by ISIS.

Besides, there are tons of kids here in the good ol' US of A in need of adoption anyway. We need to take care the mess in our backyard before cleanin' up everybody else's.

Blogger Flair1239 April 14, 2017 8:18 PM  

It would be interesting to see the information. On domestic interracial adoptions during by the same period.



Anonymous Mathias April 14, 2017 9:45 PM  

@70,

Intra-familial adoption is generally considered a separate thing than what we would refer to as "The Adoption System". My father was adopted by his Uncle, and my mothers half-sister was adopted by my mother's mother, but this did not require what you would think of as "adoption" outside of a small bit of common paperwork. Generally, your respective state goverment will be eager to redirect children who have lost their family to the nearest blood relatives as the option of first resort, as it's the simplest resolution with the highest rate of success, with the least cost to the State itself.

Anonymous E. April 15, 2017 10:58 PM  

"there is no shortage of nonwhite children waiting for adoption stateside that can be had much more easily."

Except the domestic nonwhites are likely drug babies - it's probably cheaper to adopt a malnourished foreign black child than deal with the withdrawals and side effects of crack, heroin and god knows what else goes on in the American black community.

Anonymous Turtle April 17, 2017 10:39 PM  

The money quote: "No children were adopted from Russia, once a major source; it shut out prospective American parents for political reasons three years ago."

Excuse me Vox, the international incident in question was when a very difficult, even violent, Russian boy was sent back on his own, flying by himself, which offended Russians, who are sensitive about respecting children's rights. His adoptive family had no men. Russians are very familial, even looking at their Channel 1 show about finding missing family members. They somehow have many more broken families, and trusted Americans to help with the orphan problem. Some Americans are feminists, and such women, especially without husbands, cannot raise difficult boys. The adoption ban controversy is over feminism, in effect.

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