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Monday, April 24, 2017

Netanyahu denies the Holocaust

Apparently it is now only FOUR million, according to the Prime Minister of Israel:
“If the powers in 1942 had acted against the death camps — and all that was needed was repeated bombing of the camps — had they acted then, they could have saved four million Jews and millions of other people,” he said at the official state Yom HaShoah ceremony at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem. “When terrible crimes were being committed against the Jews, when our brothers and sisters were being sent to the furnaces,” he said, “the powers knew and did not act.”
Since, as we all know, casting any doubt on the sacred SIX MILLION number that has been popping up in the New York Times alone since 1869, is considered DENYING THE HOLOCAUST and merits criminal charges, I can only conclude it is necessary to denounce Mr. Netanyahu as a Holocaust-denier and demand his resignation as Prime Minister of Israel.

Also, as someone who has paid a considerable amount of attention to the effects of the bombing campaign on German industrial production - the number of German aircraft produced rose 70 percent from 1943 to 1944 despite all the bombing - I can testify that Netanyahu has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. First, the Allies could not easily reach Eastern Europe from their bases in England. Second, since all the bombing of the German industry didn't even slow down their industrial production, which grew until it finally collapsed due to the loss of materials and manpower in 1945, it's absurd to think that even a single individual in any of the concentration camps could have been saved by Allied bombing.

And third, if the labor in the labor camps had been somehow disrupted by a bombing campaign, the Germans might have simply executed all of those being held there and the death toll might have been even greater than four million. I mean, of course, SIX MILLION.

From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.

These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter’s cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

In the face of death, in the throes of starvation there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.

Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.

In this threatened holocaust of human life, forgotten are the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of historical interpretation; and the determination to help the helpless, to shelter the homeless, to clothe the naked and to feed the hungry becomes a religion at whose altar men of every race can worship and women of every creed can kneel. 
- "The Crucifixion of the Jews Must Stop", Martin Glynn, 31 October 1919

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154 Comments:

Blogger dh April 24, 2017 11:37 AM  

The idea is just crazy. Bomb the camps to save them?

It's like he's lost his mind.

Anonymous Iforgotmyname April 24, 2017 11:37 AM  

Maybe Netanyahu means that 2 million jews were killed before 1942? Is that what he is saying?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 24, 2017 11:37 AM  

Lets see: bombing German aircraft factories resulted in increased production. I'm sure that increase was in spite of the bombing. Wouldn't bombing concentration camps have resulted in killing inmates, and thus increased the production because of the bombing?

Blogger Mr. Bee April 24, 2017 11:48 AM  

The NAZI einsatzgruppen in the east killed millions without the aid of concentration camps. They were helped along by the formally Soviet eastern Europeans who were pissed that a large majority of the NKVD, who murdered and starved millions in the USSR were jewish.

Blogger Brian S April 24, 2017 11:48 AM  

according to the revisionist history holocaust researchers I've heard on interviews, jewish historians have reduced the over all number down to less than 2 million incrementally over the years. Perhaps the point is to be intentionally confusing about it.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 24, 2017 11:51 AM  

It used to be "why didn't the Allies bomb the railroads leading to the camps?". That ignored how fast bomb damage to track can be repaired. Ignorance of the real world just pops up around this topic like a toadstool after a rainy season. No idea why that is. Really. No idea. Nope. Just can't understand it.

Blogger Servant April 24, 2017 11:51 AM  

Vox, I carefully read your post and not once do you DISAVOW Netanyahu. I can only conclude that you too, are a holocaust denier.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 24, 2017 11:52 AM  

If the number is always changing, the goyim will always be wrong.

EVERYONE'S A HOLOCAUST DENIER

Blogger 4499 April 24, 2017 11:54 AM  

I did not see that coming.

Anonymous Azimus April 24, 2017 11:54 AM  

IIRC, the death-camp "Final Solution" was not enacted until late in the war, sometime in 1944 - up until that point they were just your standard-fare totalitarian prisoner/labor camps (including lots of death to be sure).

And I believe that in late 1944 or early 1945 there was a shift in concentrated effort by the American Air Forces to destroy railroad infrastructure (rather than "never-get-to-the-front" armaments production), in part because of what the Germans were doing in the camps. It's been 15 years since I read Speer's Inside the Third Reich, Bullock's Hitler, and other books, so I might be mis-remembering, but it struck me at the time. So that would mean Netanyahu is doubly ignorant of the Holocaust.

Blogger Robert Divinity April 24, 2017 11:55 AM  

Quite a few Jews were murdered before deportation to camps. Nonetheless, Holocaustanity irks me. American citizens and nationals were interned in horrible conditions in the Philippines, Guam, and mainland Japan and they were ignored so the war in Europe could be fought. Some of these were in fact death camps and featured torture and rape as part of the daily routine.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2017 11:57 AM  

He's referring to the 2 million killed in Russia/the Eastern Front, who were executed by gunfire and then bulldozed into trenches, et al. No death camps on the Eastern Front.

Blogger Chris Lutz April 24, 2017 11:57 AM  

So Netenyahu is saying the Allies should have killed the Jews instead of the Germans? Because that is all that would have happened by bombing the camps.

Blogger Salt April 24, 2017 11:58 AM  

Azimus wrote:IIRC, the death-camp "Final Solution" was not enacted until late in the war, sometime in 1944 - up until that point they were just your standard-fare totalitarian prisoner/labor camps (including lots of death to be sure).

Wansee Conference, January, 20, 1942.

Anonymous Contaminated NEET April 24, 2017 11:59 AM  

If the Allies had somehow bombed the camps, they'd be lecturing us now about how we callously murdered innocent people. There's no way to win.

Blogger Orville April 24, 2017 12:01 PM  

"Bomben macht frei" Bibi Netanyahu.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 24, 2017 12:01 PM  

He's referring to the 2 million killed in Russia/the Eastern Front, who were executed by gunfire and then bulldozed into trenches, et al. No death camps on the Eastern Front.

@12 Ingot9455
I wonder how many of those deaths were due to Jews becoming Communist partisans and the Nazis killing them in gunfights or executing them, and retaliating against their families. The Bolsheviks in the 1920s were mostly Jews, after all.

Blogger Fred April 24, 2017 12:04 PM  

Vox isnt it possible that he meant if the Allies had bombed the camps in their early days of the camps existence that while those there would have died, the fact that the camps wouldnt exist after the bombing could have saved 4 millions that would have otherwise died?

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 12:05 PM  

Maybe Netanyahu means that 2 million jews were killed before 1942? Is that what he is saying?

That was impressively fast, considering that the decision to undertake the Final Solution was in January 1942. *GASP* This means the Nazis had a time machine!

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 12:05 PM  

Vox isnt it possible that he meant if the Allies had bombed the camps in their early days of the camps existence that while those there would have died, the fact that the camps wouldnt exist after the bombing could have saved 4 millions that would have otherwise died?

Unlikely, because that's equally stupid.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2017 12:06 PM  

Obviously the Nazi Time Machine is how they prevented so many attempts to kill Hitler!

Blogger Ron April 24, 2017 12:10 PM  

That's not what he is saying. His point is that out of the 6 million people killed, four million could have been saved had the gas chambers been bombed.

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 12:15 PM  

That's not what he is saying. His point is that out of the 6 million people killed, four million could have been saved had the gas chambers been bombed.

Stop denying the Holocaust!

Anonymous BBGKB April 24, 2017 12:18 PM  

Gay jews already fear Bibi more than they do moslem beheaders, it will really bad in NYC this weekend.

Lets see: bombing German aircraft factories resulted in increased production.

Jew's own census from before WWII didn't even have 6 million jews in areas Germany took control over, but somehow the germans were that efficient.

OT: Nashville gunfighter takes out 3 armed bandits. Sound's like an #AltRight vs mutants comic

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/04/21/nashville-gunfighter-takes-three-armed-robbers-single-handedly/

Anonymous Grayman April 24, 2017 12:27 PM  

So what! Everyone involved committed atrocities against the other side. The US ran their own death camps:
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/the-us-death-camps-of-wwii-confessions.html

No one in war comes away with clean hands. The jews deserve no special sympathy. How many groups have been targeted for extermination over the ages!

Anonymous Big Bill April 24, 2017 12:31 PM  

What "powers" is he talking about? The brutal and ruthless anti-semitic Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

The savage and heartless FDR, President of the United States, who, with a single stroke of his pen, could have saved six million Jews but chose not to?

What inhuman monsters these Democrats are! Is there no limit to their diabolical hatred of Jews?

The blood and gore of six million Jews is dripping from Democrat hands to this very day.

When will they atone for their Crimes Against Humanity? When will the Democrats pay reparations for their six million sins against God?

Blogger Rabbi B April 24, 2017 12:32 PM  

Somebody in another thread was asking how the minority imposes it's will on the majority. Look no further than the Holocaust-denial legislation in various countries.

I, for one, want see Amalekite-denial, Purim-denial and Chanukah-denial legislation ... and let us not forget about reparations from Egypt. Bastards.

NEVER AGAIN!!!

Blogger Dane Prywatne April 24, 2017 12:33 PM  

@VD

Lets get some data on what he says .. there were 6 million Jews killed due to Holocaust, but it is disjunctive to death tall of about 4 million *** people of various nationalities *** killed in death camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp#Death_toll

He gets it right, you get it wrong when it comes to numbers.

On the other hand - the death camps were just a part of total amount of people killed in IIWW and you are right, that if allied forces bombed camps - they will just kill those people other way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths

There are multiple myths about death toll in IIWW, for example - when total civilian victims counted following is visible
- Russian 10m (most of them - Ukrainians)
- China 8-9m
- Poland 6m
- then Jews 6m

There is bad part for Allies also when it comes to camps - they refused to acknowledge death camps existed at all in 1942, so it is not just bombings but the whole behavior of allies politicians who refused to notice Holocaust when reported - see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Karski#Reporting_Nazi_atrocities_to_the_Western_Allies

Blogger Achilles April 24, 2017 12:35 PM  

Oy vey Bibi! Stick with the story! 6 gorillion!

You don't get sympathy for the Holocaust if you admit it didn't happen. Do we get a discount on the aid we send Israel now?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener April 24, 2017 12:37 PM  

They really can't keep their story straight. At one point it was all the way up to "6 million Jews and 3 million gypsies, communists, and Catholics," or as the ADL would say, "6 million people.*"

Blogger Rabbi B April 24, 2017 12:38 PM  

@28 Dane Prywatne

Do you really think the point of the OP is about the math? The train has never been finer.

Anonymous Rum April 24, 2017 12:40 PM  

This argument is a historical for several reasons starting with the fact that nobody who was active in rescue efforts at the time was willing to put in writing a reccomendation to bomb the camps.

Anonymous Grayman April 24, 2017 12:42 PM  

@24 BBGKB

OT: Nashville gunfighter takes out 3 armed bandits. Sound's like an #AltRight vs mutants comic

That is what I call gun control!!! Per the story, 1 magazine and he dropped 3 assailants!

Blogger Some Dude April 24, 2017 12:43 PM  

The easy thing is to check the census before abd after. I recall ferguson saying jews were 2% of weimar germany.

Obv a lot of migration happened before the war even started.

I remember a un red cross report from 47 mentioned 600k were killed.

My hunch is that not only is it 6m, but maybe not even a million.

And they were probably killed because their starving dead caused disease.

Blogger Student in Blue April 24, 2017 12:44 PM  

- "The Crucifixion of the Jews Must Stop", Martin Glynn, 31 October 1919

Fascinating. Even then, the Six Gorillion meme was alive.

Blogger Some Dude April 24, 2017 12:45 PM  

The other key fact is that there were camp survivors. Now the ostensible story is that they testified that was happening in the camps.

So something was happening. Now how much and why is the question

To this day there is no signed documents or orders from hitler abd his senior command ordering destruction of the jews i think.

Its well worth studying if youre a real historian.

Blogger Some Dude April 24, 2017 12:47 PM  

They always fucking lie. They just dont have that part of the pre frontal cortex. Reflexive lying and fraud.

Blogger Ron April 24, 2017 12:47 PM  

@VD

Stop denying the Holocaust!

::rolls eyes::

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) April 24, 2017 12:48 PM  

Bibi is literally Hitler.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2017 12:49 PM  

@36 Yes, Hitler learned never to sign such papers after he signed the first papers authorizing the execution of mentally/physically handicapped children in 1939. He got wise due to the public backlash against it.

Blogger Rabbi B April 24, 2017 12:49 PM  

@38 Ron

::rolls eyes::

Don't worry. The trains are fine.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 24, 2017 12:51 PM  

Bombing the camps would have accomplished little. Eastern Europe was a LONG way off for B-17s. If you look at the Allied Combined Bombing Campaign, they really didn't hit much East of Berlin.

Not to mention the minor fact that bombing the camps would have accomplished little other than blowing the inmates to Kingdom Come.

And, of course, the equally minor fact that the Allies were trying to win the war, and had other places to put the bombs. Factories (they had the Germans on the ropes several times, but always stopped a few weeks short of getting real results until they went after the oil), the rail net (Spring 1944), etc.

Seriously, this sort of argument disgusts me. The Allies spent a hell of a lot of lives defeating the Nazis.

Anonymous bolg April 24, 2017 12:53 PM  

did no one notice the *year* of the cited publication?

hats off to you, Vox.

Anonymous Boynton April 24, 2017 12:56 PM  

That was impressively fast, considering that the decision to undertake the Final Solution was in January 1942. *GASP* This means the Nazis had a time machine!

And yet the Einsatzgruppen were active beginning in 1939...

Blogger praetorian April 24, 2017 12:59 PM  

And awayyyyyy weeeeee GO!

Anonymous Azimus April 24, 2017 12:59 PM  

14. Salt April 24, 2017 11:58 AM
Wansee Conference, January, 20, 1942.


Could the difference between 1942 and 1944 be the time it took to plan, build and "implement"? I skimmed the Wikipedia article and it said the conference took 90 minutes and had about 2 dozen leaders - nothing like the time required to detail plan something of this magnitude.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 24, 2017 1:02 PM  

BBGKB wrote:Jew's own census from before WWII didn't even have 6 million jews in areas Germany took control over, but somehow the germans were that efficient.

The Germans were so efficient that they were able to kill some of the Jews twice to get their numbers up.

Anonymous Incurvatus April 24, 2017 1:03 PM  

What is the source of their fascination with the number six? (Aside from the Biblical meaning of mankind's sinful imperfection, without Christ.)

Blogger 4499 April 24, 2017 1:06 PM  

If history has taught us all one thing, it's that people REALLY like it when we bomb them.

Blogger Mr Darcy April 24, 2017 1:12 PM  

http://www.vineyardsaker.co.nz/2017/04/19/yahwism-the-cult-at-the-heart-of-the-judeosphere-and-the-global-terror-trade-by-paul-matthews/


http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/Christians-full%20page.html

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 24, 2017 1:12 PM  

Terrible idea! If we had bombed all the death camps, we never would have gotten holocaust museums!

Anonymous Dack Thrombosis April 24, 2017 1:14 PM  

The Allies did carry out bombing missions in Eastern Europe. The most famous was the raid on Ploiesti, Romania in an effort to destroy the oil production facilities there. The Allies lost a lot of planes and air crews with little to show for it.

As far as the six million number, that number is a fairly recent invention. No one was citing that number for several decades after the war ended. Only once they figured out they could use it to beat people over the head did they start throwing that around. It's a war no one knows how many died down to a precise number. Who knows how many people the Einsatzgruppen killed in the East. Likely there are mass graves still undiscovered.

Blogger Salt April 24, 2017 1:14 PM  

Azimus wrote:the conference took 90 minutes and had about 2 dozen leaders - nothing like the time required to detail plan something of this magnitude.

The Nazi's were an efficient lot. The conference established policy which was delegated into action. For the Nazi's, implementing began almost immediately.

Watch the film "Conspiracy", about the Wansee Conference and taken directly from a surviving transcript.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 24, 2017 1:15 PM  

And for your reading pleasure, a look a the Next Big Genocide Idea:

http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2017/04/your-future-bio-ethnic-warfare.html#disqus_thread

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 24, 2017 1:18 PM  

Nazi Time Machine Death Camp Tuchus Invasion by Chaim Tingle sold up to 6 million copies in its first ovening.

Blogger Lazarus April 24, 2017 1:19 PM  

Incurvatus wrote:What is the source of their fascination with the number six? (Aside from the Biblical meaning of mankind's sinful imperfection, without Christ.)

Jews claim their were 600,000 Jewish souls at Sinai. Its much ado about spiritual rhetoric.

Search "jewish fascination with the number 6" you will get a lot of material.

Anonymous Bobby Farr April 24, 2017 1:20 PM  

If he is going to play revisionist history, then he must also consider the lives that would have been spared in the US had maintained its neutrality and stayed out of the war. Or if the allies had sided against the Communists instead of the Germans. Say what you want about the Nazis, the did not have a record of mass murder during peacetime like the Soviets and Chinese. But the lives saved would have been non-Jewish so I guess they don't enter into his calculation.

Perhaps it is best if he just expresses gratitude that many of his fellow Jews were saved in the course of Europe committing suicide and the US abandoning its principles. Alternate decisions made with the benefit of hindsight would have left them far worse off.

Anonymous Panzer Man April 24, 2017 1:22 PM  

bolg wrote:did no one notice the *year* of the cited publication?

hats off to you, Vox.


Heh. There are actually several mentions of 6 million in other years, also. There are multiple slaughters or anticipated slaughters of 6 million starting in the late 19th century and going forward.

The Nuremberg Trials documents are also a gold mine of bizarre details that nobody brings up nowadays due to the fact that they are, well, bizarre. There is even testimony stating that gas chambers killed a small number compared to giant electrified floors and a "pedal-operated head-smashing machine" that was disguised as a device for measuring the prisoners' heights.

Then, of course, there are the nuclear death rays supposedly used to evaporate 15,000 prisoners at a time, the executions by means of forcing prisoners to climb trees in huge numbers which other prisoners then cut down to kill them with the fall, and so on. All of which, of course, was implicitly believed.

I have no idea of what actually happened. However, I will note

1. -- that all kinds of people all across the globe have conducted massacres at various times, some of them on a vast scale (Shaka Zulu's establishment of the Zulu empire is believed to have caused around 2 million deaths by some historians, which was a lot in the population of the time and place), and yet apparently the 6 gorillion is cause enough to wipe out ALL Europeans by demographic warfare on a massive scale, including those who fought stoutly to defeat the Germans.

2. -- That the NKVD-led massacres of Russians and Ukrainians in the early Soviet Union dwarfed even the hypothetical Gorillion. But since that was (((skypes))) genociding White people, that apparently doesn't matter.

3. I've read -- and have no idea if it's true -- that the infamous "Babi Yar" massacre in Ukraine is dubious; with 150,000 allegedly killed and buried in the Babi Yar ravine, there should have been a colossal grave. However, it is claimed that reconnaissance photos of Kiev show no change in the ravine during German occupation, other than existing bushes and trees growing slightly larger during the period, while 2-3 smaller mass graves holding possibly 2,000-3,000 in total are visible near German anti-partisan unit barracks, suggesting the execution of that number of partisans.

4. Making it illegal to research or question the State line on the matter in so many countries makes it suspicious in itself. If there's nothing to hide, why make it actually illegal to poke around?

My position on the 6 gorillion is agnostic; I have no idea as to its veracity. The Germans did some rough stuff undoubtedly. But it also seems like there is some suspicion attaching to the precise scale -- and in any case, it is not The Defining Event of history, even for Germany.

Blogger Lazarus April 24, 2017 1:23 PM  

More material supporting the use of 6 million pre-WWII

https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/holocaust-gematria-the-kabbalah-and-the-significance-of-six-million/

If you challenge even the RHETORIC of the numbers, you are an anti-semite.

Anonymous Jeff April 24, 2017 1:28 PM  

(((Oscar Goldman))) didn't really need six million to rebuild the Bionic Man, either.

Blogger Chris Lutz April 24, 2017 1:29 PM  

@42 In The Great Courses course on WWII, the professor discusses this. The Allies couldn't really do anything as it was deep in German occupied territory. As the Allies stated at the time, the best way to help the Jews was to beat Germany as quickly as possible.

Blogger B.J. April 24, 2017 1:33 PM  

This is something I was just talking about the other day. A friend mentioned he had never seen Schindlers List, and I slapped the table and shouted, "Don't you know the Jews were holocausted?! It's very important that you know!!"

I was kidding around but then we started talking and wondered why the holocaust museum even exists. What is it's purpose? Why does America have a monument about an atrocity committed by a foreign country against their own citizens? Is there a Congo Civil War museum in France? Does Finland memorialize the crimes of the Khmer rouge?

It just doesn't make sense.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 24, 2017 1:35 PM  

Incurvatus wrote:What is the source of their fascination with the number six?
In Hebrew numerology, 6 is the number of man, that is, the number of the Jews (for many, goys don't count as real people). It is also (therefore?) the number of evil.

The 6 million thing is more specific. I read somewhere, years ago, and can't find it now, that there was a Kabbalist prophecy of the return to Jerusalem. It states that before the return happens, 6 million Jews will have to die, "burned up as if in a furnace." That's why it has to be 6 million. For the Kabbalists, without the 6 million, then the Jews in Israel are there illegitimately, contrary to God's timeline. That's also why the insistence on ovens.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 1:47 PM  

@14 "IIRC, the death-camp "Final Solution" was not enacted until late in the war, sometime in 1944 ...
Wansee Conference, January, 20, 1942."

Except -- the supposed "Final Solution" was discussed as (and pretty clearly planned to BE) *transport of the jews to their 'new homeland' of the Soviet Union* (that (((THEY))) had created by murdering White Christians all throughout the east!).

Unless you're a full-on conspiracy theorist and believe the Germans planned and instituted the alleged 'deaths of all the jews' ENTIRELY by code words and with never ANYthing written down or reported by anyone? (Including Winston Churchill never mentioning it ONCE in his autobio, and the Red Cross contemporaneous reports of their inspection tours of the camps?! They were 'in' on the conspiracy too?)

Oh, and you have to ignore the actual German camp commandants (including at least one hanged!) for not being able to LOWER the death rate in their camps! Mainly from typhoid and malnutrition, and while the U.S./Allies directed their pilots to STRAFE FARMERS in the fields growing food. (It was Chuck Yeager, wasn't it, who wrote about that in his autobio?!)

(Sorry, just can't help sperging sometimes, at the blind FAITH in lies, lies, and more lies!)(Shutting up now.)

Blogger The Other Robot April 24, 2017 1:48 PM  

Quick, get the $PLC to file a lawsuit againt Netanyahu!

Anonymous bolg April 24, 2017 1:50 PM  

@58 Panzer Man

"My position on the 6 gorillion is agnostic; I have no idea as to its veracity."


yeah, i'm pretty agnostic about it too, but for some reason it's always taken the wrong way in conversation. then when i try to lighten the mood with "ok, i wish it was true" it seems to make things even worse. i don't know anymore

Blogger Brian H April 24, 2017 1:51 PM  

Jewish corpses have the power to violate the law of conservation of mass I guess.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 24, 2017 1:52 PM  

A few comments and corrections:

1) The 3 main Einsatzgruppen were killing Jews as early as July 1941, when the famous commissar order was extended to all Jew as well.

2) By the time of the Wannssee conference, which as planned for October 41 but did not occur until late January 1942, but the plan to kill Jews was already underway. Authorization for the conference dated from the end of July 1941, same time as the commissar order was extended to Talmudic Jews.

3) The figure of Jews killed, as tabulated at the end of 1944 was 5.935 million. That was from the Germans themselves, and the initial report was rejected as that could not be the total, it was too low. The report came back as originally written saying the records were correct. It is not hard to figure that likely another 65,000 died in the months from December 1944 to May 1945.

The holocaust did occur, but it would be fair to say the comment by Bibi is really a kind of rotten trick to try to guilt western Christendom. I have heard US Jewish leftists do the same, all an underhanded trick to make folks who should rightly be seen as righteous and tar them with some collective guilt. The idea that US bombers could have stopped the camps is absurd. There was no fighter support out even to upper Silesia (or past) where the death camps were located. The US briefly did run bombers on runs over Germany to land in Byelorussian in the summer of 1944, but that ended after the german tactical fighter bombers followed the bombers and shot up about 200 of them on a Russian airfield in the late summer of 1944.

The best way allies could save Jews was to beat the Germans, which they did. Jews should be very grateful to US, British and Free French soldiers who fought and died to defeat the Germans from the fall of 1944 on. The western powers could have stopped on the border of German in late 1944 and they would have collapsed around the end of June 1945. A lot of French, British and American men lost their lives to move the date forward around 2 months. A wee bit of gratefulness would not be that much of a stretch.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 1:53 PM  

"I wonder how many of those deaths were due to Jews becoming Communist partisans and the Nazis killing them in gunfights or executing them, and retaliating against their families."

Katyn Forest: Infogalatic, the planetary knowledge core!

Read this part a couple of times!
"The USSR claimed that the victims had been murdered by the Nazis in 1941, and continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990..."

[quote]The massacre was prompted by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria's proposal to execute all captive members of the Polish Officer Corps, dated 5 March 1940, approved by the Soviet Politburo, including its leader, Joseph Stalin. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000.[1] The victims were executed in the Katyn Forest in Russia, the Kalinin and Kharkiv prisons, and elsewhere. Of the total killed, about 8,000 were officers taken prisoner during the 1939 Soviet invasion of Poland, another 6,000 were police officers, and the rest were arrested Polish intelligentsia that the Soviets deemed to be "intelligence agents, gendarmes, landowners, saboteurs, factory owners, lawyers, officials and priests".

The government of Nazi Germany announced the discovery of mass graves in the Katyn Forest in 1943. When the London-based Polish government-in-exile asked for an investigation by the International Red Cross, Stalin immediately severed diplomatic relations with it. The USSR claimed that the victims had been murdered by the Nazis in 1941, and continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990, when it officially acknowledged and condemned the perpetration of the killing. [/quote]

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 1:54 PM  

(That was to comment @17. )

Blogger Salt April 24, 2017 2:02 PM  

http://prorev.com/wannsee.htm

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 2:06 PM  

"If the powers in 1942 had acted against the death camps — and all that was needed was repeated bombing of the camps — had they acted then, they could have saved four million Jews"

Of course, he'll just claim "Oy vey, the other 2 million were killed by roving death squads in conveniently unverifiable locations in the East! Yeah, that's the ticket!"

That's been an increasingly important tent of Holocaustianity ever since the official Auschwitz numbers were shown to be a complete fabrication back in the 80s-90s (see the Zendel "false news" trial, among many other sources).

Still funny, though.

Of course, at this same time, Zionist terrorists in Palestine were busy bombing and shooting the same Brits that they insist should have done more to help them...

Anonymous Die Fledermaus April 24, 2017 2:07 PM  

Heh, people are still getting all worked up about things Bibi says !? The dude once claimed he saw British Cops in Israel as a child. Problem was the British mandate ended a few months before he was born.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 2:11 PM  

@Francis Parker Yockey

That's *tenet* and *Zundel* of course. Not seeing a delete option for some reason today.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable April 24, 2017 2:15 PM  

when i try to lighten the mood with "ok, i wish it was true"

I think I'd like you.

Blogger Lazarus April 24, 2017 2:16 PM  

Jewish Virtual Library claims a possible margin of error of close to 30%

Below are figures for the number of Jews murdered in each country that came under German domination. They are estimates, as are all figures relating to Holocaust victims. The numbers given here for Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania are based on their territorial borders before the 1938 Munich agreement. The total number of six million Jews murdered during the Holocaust, which emerged from the Nuremberg trials, is also an estimateNumbers have ranged between five and seven million killed.

It also states:

The death camps were essentially factories for murdering Jews. The Germans shipped thousands of Jews to them each day. Within a few hours of their arrival, the Jews had been stripped of their possessions and valuables, gassed to death, and their bodies burned in specially designed crematoriums. Approximately 3.5 million Jews were murdered in these death camps.

Very complicated, yes?

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 2:16 PM  

@52 "As far as the six million number, that number is a fairly recent invention. No one was citing that number for several decades after the war ended."

Sorry, not even CLOSE!

From here: http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html

"A. On page 482 of the article on 'Antisemitism' in the the 10th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1902) is found the words: "While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded...". As the reader can see, these words appear in the last paragraph of the left hand column of the image HERE. This reference precedes references to the Six Million of WW2 by approximately 40 years.

B. In the American Hebrew Magazine of October 31, 1919, there appeared an article entitled "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!" By Martin H Glynn, former governor of the state of New York. This article begins, "From across the sea, six million men and women call to us for help ...". The article was published approximately 20 years before the outbreak of WW2. An image of the complete article is HERE.


Or, from here: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369
Each of these has a graphic of the article described:

1900-
Jewish leader lets slip the Zionist Holohoax scheme
JUNE 11, 1900 – NEW YORK TIMES – page 7 – Rabbi Wise's Address "There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism."

1911-
Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodore Herzl, warns of the "annihilation of six million people" at the Zionist congress in Basle, Switzerland. This was 22 years before Hitler came to power and 3 years before WW1 started.

1919
Shortly after WW1 Jews claim Holocaust of "six million Jews". It doesn't fly too far, nobody buys it.
(graphics of four different articles))

1921-
White Russian patriots gain ground on the Jewish Bolshevik usurpers of their nation. In a vein attempt to disguise their heavy involvement in murderous Bolshevism, Jews reel out the "six million" myth once again.

1938
9 months before Kristallnacht,Jews claim 6 million (total) European jews (victims of course)

Blogger Ron April 24, 2017 2:19 PM  

@B.J.

What is it's purpose? Why does America have a monument about an atrocity committed by a foreign country against their own citizens?

Fair question. I would say so people can understand that even the greatest tools of civilization can be used to destroy the helpless and innocent. That even the process of discovering Truth is not a substitute for Truth. That there is always a thin line between Man and Beast.

Or in the ancient words:

"6Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7"If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you CAN master it."

8Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.…


As for why have the museum in America and not say Zimbabwe, I would say because at this time America is the standard bearer for civilization and not Zimbabwe.

And it's important to note because the Germans were NOT the worst, they were actually the best civilization had to offer.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 24, 2017 2:19 PM  

@69 sam the man: Yes!

Trying to guilt-trip the West over the Holocaust is a pet peeve of mine. What were we to do? Declare war? Invade Europe? Fight Nazis? We DID these things.

Pro tip: If you won't fight for yourself, don't expect anyone else to fight for you. Had the spirit of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising been more widespread, the term "Holocaust" would refer to the extermination of the SS by the Jews.

Blogger Joseph Cawell April 24, 2017 2:19 PM  

This is not about the post per se, but there is something I would love to know: What is the American alt-right's fascination with attacking the well-documented truth of the Holocaust and its corresponding defense of German National Socialism? Almost every aspect of National Socialism is anathema to the values of the American alt-right. National Socialist values such as hatred of liberty and individualism, a collectivist mentality and deep intrusion into personal life, a command and control economic system, a no-fun, constricted, top-down popular culture, profound anti-Christianity with a concommittant comfort with fundamentalist Islam, and a rejection of most of Western Culture strike me as the very opposite of what the American alt-right is all about. So..why?

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 2:23 PM  

@68 "Jews should be very grateful to US, British and Free French soldiers who fought and died to defeat the Germans"

Except they're NOT! It's never ever ever enough! So: MOAR money, MOAR groveling, MOAR using OUR young people's blood to fight wars for THEIR gains, not ours... Time for them ALL to make Aliyah: they must go back!!

Blogger Old Ez April 24, 2017 2:24 PM  

The reality is that the people who died in those camps died *because* of the bombing. Regular, loyal Germans were dying of starvation and typhus due to the severance of civilian supply lines by the U.U.U. Communist Alliance. Given that fact, *of course* prisoners, partisans and traitors lawfully held in concentration facilities would suffer the same fate. The simple fact is that if you wanted to address the Communist menace in Germany in the 1930's and 40's you could not possibly help but arrest and intern huge swathes of the Jewish population.

Blogger Rabbi B April 24, 2017 2:29 PM  

What is the American alt-right's fascination with attacking the well-documented truth of the Holocaust ...

It's the shameless and tiresome exploitation of the Shoah that has been used to browbeat the goyim for the last 70 years which is at the heart of the issue.

I have more admiration for those who refrain from exploiting their suffering in order to generate self-serving sympathy. It's the exaltation of one's suffering over another's that rankles.

Blogger Joseph Cawell April 24, 2017 2:35 PM  

RB: Not an answer, just a repeat. What does "browbeating the goyim" even have to do with the goals of the alt-right? What does it, such as it is, have to do with anything else, for that matter?

Anonymous RecoveringBeta April 24, 2017 2:39 PM  

"We have to pass the bill to know what's in it"

Anonymous The Vox Day Center for Mutual Respect April 24, 2017 2:40 PM  

Interesting timing for this post. Just today April 24, 2017 the obscure Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect announces their 50 State Genocide Education Project:

Legislators in 20 U.S. States to Introduce Legislation on Holocaust and Other Genocide Awareness and Prevention:

The bills begin the landmark project of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect to require Holocaust and other genocide education across all 50 states and the District of Columbia


Yes, mandatory Holocaust education for all 50 states K-12 public education. Read this poignant anecdote illustrating the absolute necessity of mandatory Holocaust indoctrination:

Louisiana Representative Beryl Amedee (R) and Massachusetts Representative Jeffrey Roy (D) are among the 26 legislators across the 20 states announced today.
Representative Amedee in Louisiana said: “I have had the opportunity to visit Holocaust museums in New York and Washington, DC. During one visit, I overheard a student ask one of her classmates, ‘Why should I care if all these people were killed before I was even born?’ Her question stunned me! At that moment, choking back tears, I made a commitment in my heart to do what I can to be sure future generations learn about our collective history.”


The Vox Day Center for Mutual Respect firmly believes a thorough awareness and knowledge of history is of utmost importance in K-12 public education. With that in mind the Vox Day Center for Mutual Respect is solicitimg sample letters for use in ensuring the selected representatives, as identified by the obscure Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, be brought up to speed on the multitude of genocides throughout world history.

It is critical these lawmakers understand the necessity for studying all genocides that have occurred through history if genocide education is to be declared mandatory by law. Incomplete and deficient education on this matter will only serve to deprive our children of the complete knowledge they need and deserve.

Please submit for consideration all proposed sample letters in the comments of Vox Popoli.

See http://annefrank.com/50-state-genocide-education-project/

Blogger Old Ez April 24, 2017 2:43 PM  

Ok, no sarcasm: does anyone here doubt that the world would be a much better place today if the good guys had won World War 2? For those that say, "no, the US did the right thing in helping Communism defeat Europe", how do you imagine the world being worse off if the Communists had lost? What do you think would have happened that would have been so horrible if National Socialism became the organizing principle of Europe instead of liberal democracy? I'm genuinely curious what you guys think about this. Ok, go.

Blogger Rabbi B April 24, 2017 2:44 PM  

@84 Joseph Cawell

What does "browbeating the goyim" even have to do with the goals of the alt-right? What does it, such as it is, have to do with anything else, for that matter?

It's an answer. You just don't like it. The Jews are a minority in every country to which they have been scattered, and no one likes having the whims of the minority imposed upon them. In fact, we were specifically commanded not to do such a thing, but to live as inconspicuously as possible among our host nations, whether ill-treated or well-treated.

Rather than constantly asking ourselves how we could best serve the nations to which we had been scattered, we by and large, exalted our interests above the host nation and used a variety of means to do so e.g. politicizing the Shoah.

What you are seeing is not necessarily a "goal of the alt-right" as much as a natural response of a host who is sick and tired of being told "what is good for the Jews" or else.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 2:46 PM  

@Panzer Man

"The Nuremberg Trials documents are also a gold mine of bizarre details that nobody brings up nowadays due to the fact that they are, well, bizarre"

It's interesting to note that the Moscow show trials of the 30s are widely understood to have been travesties because they involved the use of the outward appearance of legal forms and procedures, in order to enforce a predetermined narrative, and to eliminate the enemies of those in power, with truth or falsehood of the accusations playing no significant role. This is clear because of the extensive use of torture, the exrensive use of affidavits/ testimonials without cross examination, conflicting or nonsensical stories that were never resolved, threats to families of the defendants, etc.

Strangely enough, the Nuremberg Trials, which shared all of these characteristics with the Moscow show trials, are held up as a model of "justice."

And of course, the head Soviet judge at Nuremberg was also the most prominent judge at the Moscow show trials. He presided over the trials of those notorious wreckers and counterrevolutionaries, (((Kamenev))) and (((Zinoviev))).
https://infogalactic.com/info/Iona_Nikitchenko

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2017 2:46 PM  

@80 Speaking as a jew, there's an old gag about how all jewish holidays go like this:

They tried to kill us,
We survived,
Let's eat!

But it's more like this:

The jews fall away from God
Things get bad for them and people try to kill them
But a few jews remain godly
God saves the jews and they survive
Let's eat!

Call it a combination of intelligence and drive and nepotism, things that we discuss often here on this site, but jews have an outsize influence on history. (And we go amusedly round and round as to how intelligent, how much drive, and how much nepotism and tribalism. And for BGS, some Zuckerberg-style theft.)

It's easy to point to actions by jews that have had horrible consequences, like the Hart-Cellar Immigration act, a good number of the original Russian socialists, Hollywood/media control, and the entire life of George Soros. As much as some jews might like to read other jews out of the tribe and as much as people like Soros don't consider themselves jews, they're jews.

Since with great power comes great responsibility, that gives rise to a certain focus on the Alt-Right side. The jews are a piece on the board that the Alt-Right is also on. They have certain movements and certain actions and certain styles. To be ignorant of them would be foolish.

Anonymous Bobby Farr April 24, 2017 2:47 PM  

@80 The Alt Right rejects the uniparty consensus of "invade the world, invite the world". The WWII narrative is 1940s propaganda masquerading as history and used to justify the rejection of America's traditional isolationism and pursuit of "invade the world" for the last 70 years.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 2:50 PM  

Joseph Cawell: What is the American alt-right's fascination with attacking the well-documented truth of the Holocaust

It's NOT well-documented! Well, the LIES it was are becoming better and better documented! When the Yad Vashem -- the "official" israeli holyhoax outfit states that there were NOT 4 million killed at Auschwitz (so they had to remove their plaque out front!), but between 800k and 1 million (funny, isn't it, that they did not post a corrected one?) -- but the 6 million number doesn't change by one life. Now, it's: there were NO "death camps" IN Germany -- oh, but for decades, they SWORE there were and they had hundreds of eye witnesses!! Till it was proven they weren't. But the classes they teach to AMERICAN students in AMERICAN schools -- including trips ot local Holyhoax museums (is that where YOU learned the lies>)-- not on WWII, but ONLY o the Holyhoax!

Joseph Cawell: Almost every aspect of National Socialism is anathema to the values of the American alt-right.

The demonization of "every aspect" of Nat. Soc. has been used over the past 60+ years to subvert and destroy America and the rest of the West! WHY are WE spending billions of dollars propping up this country which is ONLY a burden to us? Why (as Ann Coulter pointed out) does EVERY "American" politician grovel and have to pledge undying commitment to a FOREIGN country in order to get elected? Why are jews way way way over-represented in EVERY official and culture-'passing' organization and system in OUR country? Why is OUR Supreme Court made up of four Catholics and four JEWS?! (Protestant country, remember?) Why are we fighting wars in the ME where we have NO interest whatsoever, much less some "national" interest? Why was the money-structure of this country handed off to a foreign, jew-owned, jew-run banking consortium --
FROM WHICH our country borrows OUR money AT INTEREST?!!?

Sorry, you are ill-educated: way behind the state of the truth. (And oh, yeah, WHY does the *United States of America* have a cabinet-level post for investigating antisemitism AROUND THE GLOBE?! How is that OUR business?! Why does every state have a holyhoax museum -- at TAX-payer cost?


Joseph Cawell: National Socialist values such as hatred of liberty and individualism, a collectivist mentality and deep intrusion into personal life, a command and control economic system, a no-fun, constricted, top-down popular culture, profound anti-Christianity with a concommittant comfort with fundamentalist Islam, and a rejection of most of Western Culture strike me as the very opposite of what he American alt-right is all about. So..why?

Because Nat. Soc. was the LAST gasp at preventing the commie takeover of ALL Western nations! Look at Europe and the U.S. -- and, oh look, we have been taken over. Do you not see it? OUR nation has been subverted, dumbed down, and is now being REPLACED at the hands of the jews! (Oh, and you DO know that the Russian Revolution was NOT Russian, but Jewish, right? Read up, you're WAY behind in your awakening education!)


Communism, Bolshevism, feminism, liberalism, -- all the 'isms' were founded by and for jews. ALL the isms being used to destroy US were founded by and are being USED by jews (or zionists: call them what you will; because just like their offspring the moslems: the moderates SUPPORT the fanatics; it's endemic, not the fringe nutcases!)

(David Duke's "My Awakening" is a great primer (even at 20+ years old!) to what REALLY went, and is going, on. Yes, yes, I know, the MEDIA has told you he's anathema... And you always believe the media, do you? (I'm pretty sure it's available for free online now. Go dip a toe and see just how deeply inculcated your reflexive instantaneous knee-jerk reaction to never ever ever think anything askance of the jews really is.

Anonymous Sam the Man April 24, 2017 2:50 PM  

81,

Not all Jews now be fair.

I know plenty of Jews who do have the right attitude and have a great deal of love for the US GIs, have not forgotten and will not let their kids forget. I assure you those Jews get just as pissed off at the leftist butt wipes who try to guilt people as you do. Unfortunately most of them are technical/medical folks and seem to be out of the mainstream of current Jewish naval-gazing cupidity.

#80:

Pardon me but your question seems to be passive aggressive tripe. Understand there is no sacred cows to the alt right, there is no defect with questioning history or trying to seek the truth. I for one, think once folks get through a serious study (there are some areas honest folks could debate) they will conclude the Holocaust did occur and the figure is 5.9 to 6 millions dead. I could of course be wrong, but me thinks your question was not meant to seek truth, but to tar folks who call themselves alt right as a bunch of fascists/NAZIs. That is a leftist character degradation trick.

The reality is the fascists today are not the alt right but the Antifa and progressive left. They are the ones banning speech and who would literally burn books if the could. Howard dean, not fringe figure just stated certain political commentators on the right should not enjoy free speech, that is the stuff of NAZIs. The left want to disarm every one, not the alt-right.

I do not know as I am not one, but I would suggest to the extent you see Alt-right folks questioning currently taught history about the NAZIs is this: They have been lied to about a lot of things: how the blacks were oppressed, how women were oppressed, then of course they question other official stories. Here is where I see a win-win, as if they seriously study the NAZI well meaning folks will come to a better understanding of the threat of that leftist (yes leftist) totalitarian ideas present.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 24, 2017 2:52 PM  

Joseph Cawell wrote:What is the American alt-right's fascination with attacking the well-documented truth of the Holocaust and its corresponding defense of German National Socialism? Almost every aspect of National Socialism is anathema to the values of the American alt-right. National Socialist values such as hatred of liberty and individualism, a collectivist mentality and deep intrusion into personal life, a command and control economic system, a no-fun, constricted, top-down popular culture, profound anti-Christianity with a concommittant comfort with fundamentalist Islam, and a rejection of most of Western Culture strike me as the very opposite of what the American alt-right is all about. So..why?
We are tired of being lied to. That's all. The Shoah myth is founded on made-up numbers and enforced ignorance of every other genocide that's happened over the last 150 years, including those committed by Jews.
But you're at the wrong web site if you're looking for Nazi apologists. The accusation is, in this case false.

But, being a Jew, you will run in, crying "anti-Semitism NAZI NAZI NAZI" for any honest discussion of the reality of the Holocaust, the history of the Jews in Europe, or the role of Jews in our societal decline.

It's worn out and doesn't work any more.

Blogger DonReynolds April 24, 2017 2:55 PM  

I have been around people who were convinced that WWII was all about their tribe, which is nonsense. In a war where 60 million (or more) were killed, or died of disease or starvation, it makes no difference at all whether one group was 4 million or 6 million. The Russians lost 25 million people. Yes, some of them were Jewish but most of them were not. Those who were Germans, some of the dead were Jewish, but most of them were not.

Civilian deaths are always regrettable. We would prefer that death during wartime to be confined to military personnel alone. But total war deliberately includes civilian targets and all sides did exactly that.

It is annoying for certain people to not only focus on their own war dead, but insist that everyone else's simply do not matter. Gypsies, homosexuals, Slavs, Jews and other ethnic minorities were targeted by the Nazi war machine. The Germans were an equal opportunity murderer, as were the Russians, and the Allied bombers, and the Japanese. No one needs to feel left out.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 24, 2017 2:56 PM  

you want alt-right mischief?Every American kid is force-fed Jewish hysteria,tragedy,general asshatness-in English. American writers and English writers are not taught. Stiff upper-lippedness,comedy, high-spirited adventure- none of that is taught in schools these days.

It's an all Anne Frank and her feminist cousins fest.

Boys hate it.

If you can deconstruct, bit by bit, with memes and cartoons, you'd have American boys back.

and,incidentally,they'd be so red=pilled they'd be mistaken for American Indians.

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 2:56 PM  

RB: Not an answer, just a repeat.

That is an answer. Don't lie.

As for why the Alt-Right tends to look askance at the Holocaust, it is because it has been a) surrounded by obvious lies and deceit, and b) used as a rationalization for the globalism that the Alt-Right opposes.

We don't actually care about the Holocaust any more than we do about more recent massacres in Rwanda, Cambodia, or China. But we refuse to let anyone use it as a permanent justification for evil, anti-Western policies.

And most of the Alt-Right does not support National Socialism. We support nationalism, not socialism.

Anonymous Panzer Man April 24, 2017 2:56 PM  

Joseph Cawell wrote:RB: Not an answer, just a repeat. What does "browbeating the goyim" even have to do with the goals of the alt-right? What does it, such as it is, have to do with anything else, for that matter?

Well, unable to speak for anyone but myself. But every attempt to limit or stop overwhelming 3rd world/non-white immigration to White countries is met by shrieks of "You're a Nazi! It's another Holocaust! White people who want to keep their own countries are Literally Hitler!!!!1eleven!!! This is the kind of mindset that led to the Holocaust!"

And since the said event has been used as a blunt instrument to bludgeon White people into guilt-ridden suicidal submission and self-hatred, making that connection mobilizes the support of "normies" for baffling even the mildest measures of

The Holocaust has become weaponized anti-White, anti-nationalist propaganda intended to give people a reflexive objection to noticing the glaring differences in race or the objectively destructive effects of mass immigration on an existing culture.

It is a propaganda weapon that is used ceaseless to demoralize Whites who had nothing to do with it -- even if it happened -- to force their submission, induce hostility to all race-based analysis and the idea of ethnonationalism, AND to render everything that the (((Chosen))) do and say absolutely sacred, something that can't be questioned no matter how outrageous it is. It is used to turn Whites into groveling submissives and to raise (((Skypes))) to the status of Holy People Who Must Not Be Questioned or Resisted.

THAT'S what it has to do with the Alt-Right.

---------------
Side note: as far as the Holocaust being "well-documented" goes, glance at this for starters:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/30/what-happened-at-babi-yar-fact-vs-myth/

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 2:58 PM  

@83

"It's the shameless and tiresome exploitation of the Shoah that has been used to browbeat the goyim for the last 70 years which is at the heart of the issue."

Exactly. This is far more the issue than the degree to which the standard narrative is literally true (or not). Everyone has a right to believe in their own version of history; their own myths. You don't see anyone from the alt right attacking Norman Finkelstein for believing in the 6 million, do you?

Blogger Old Ez April 24, 2017 2:59 PM  

@80 can someone get this poor fellow some remedial reading material on what the Alt Right is? "Muh liberty and individualism"? Is he serious? This is what the Alt Right was created to abolish: not liberty and individualism per se, but the worship of abstract concepts like liberty and individualism as values in themselves. Liberty and individualism are means to an end. The Alt Right understands that, so our rejection of the Fetishes of the Enlightenment is perfectly in line with a revisionist reading of National Socialism.

Blogger Jew613 April 24, 2017 3:01 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:He's referring to the 2 million killed in Russia/the Eastern Front, who were executed by gunfire and then bulldozed into trenches, et al. No death camps on the Eastern Front.

@12 Ingot9455

I wonder how many of those deaths were due to Jews becoming Communist partisans and the Nazis killing them in gunfights or executing them, and retaliating against their families. The Bolsheviks in the 1920s were mostly Jews, after all.


There is no question that there were many Jews in the Bolshevik party, but according to the 1922 Bolshevik party census 5.21% of party members were Jewish.

Anonymous Silly but True April 24, 2017 3:02 PM  

It's just a quibble over which group. It's sort of like when some retard mourns the 15 lost souls in Columbine; he's not wrobg technically that 15 died tgat day, it's just that to most people two of those deaths don't matter and need not be mourned.

The problem mostly happens because people conflate total killed in concentration camps as either total killed by Nazis or total Jews killed. They're all different. Best to clearly define the metric, for example "total Jews killed in concentration camp (including on the ride there)" abd there will be someone somewhere happy to toss out an estimate for it.

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 3:03 PM  

I would suggest to the extent you see Alt-right folks questioning currently taught history about the NAZIs is this: They have been lied to about a lot of things

Precisely. And we have developed a pretty good nose for deceit, historical and otherwise.

Avalanche makes a powerful point. How does the death toll at Auschwitz fall so dramatically without a single modification of the SIX GORILLION?

Doesn't pass the BS test. We KNOW someone is lying about it. That's settled. The only question is, to precisely what extent?

Personally, I don't see that it matters on bit if 1 million or 6 million were killed. It's a monstrosity either way, and we know that Hitler committed monstrous deeds against the Jews, Gypsies, and European nations. And if it's only the numbers that matter, we shouldn't be crying for the Jews anyway, but the Chinese.

So, Holocaustianity is ridiculous no matter how you look at it.

Blogger VD April 24, 2017 3:05 PM  

our rejection of the Fetishes of the Enlightenment is perfectly in line with a revisionist reading of National Socialism.

It would have to be remarkably revisionist. The whole point of Alt-Right is that it is OF THE RIGHT. Not the Left. And certainly not socialist.

Not much point in trading in one utopian stupidity for another, after all. We'd do as well to embrace feminism.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 3:07 PM  

Also (calming down a bit): no offense to "our" jews here. None to the ones, such as Rabbi B, who acknowledge it is OUR country, after all.

A major reason jews have been kicked out of -- what's it now, 130, down through history? -- countries is that they (almost without fail) try to subvert and twist the host country to "protect" (and also enrich and empower) themselves above the host population. And eventually that host gets fed up (ask me how I know...)

All the cultural and political damage I see around me in my people and nation is caused by jewish subversion and their own desire to protect (and enrich/empower) their tribe by (mis-)USING my people. (Yes, of course, the flaw in MY people is the high-trust openness that works fantastically in an all-White nation; alas that we opened our doors and our flaw is used against us!)

I have whined to my dearest jewish friends of 25 years that I want MY PEOPLE to be as loyal, as connected, as tribal toward each other, as their people are to their tribe! (The wife always jokes that, unlike their liberal friends chanting about diversity; THEY actually have diversity in their friendships, cause they know and love me! And, of course, we agree that their lib friends would run screaming if they knew about me.)

Because I expect better of my people (and there's my own big flaw!), I expect them to be able to SEE the truth, once it's pointed out. And I despair of reaching enough in time (although the Alt Right and Millennials give me hope) to try to save my nation and my people.

Blogger DonReynolds April 24, 2017 3:18 PM  

Several "Final Solutions" were considered during the war. At first, the purpose was simply to get them out of Germany by moving them to Poland or Occupied Russia, where they would be agricultural labor. Another solution was to remove them all to the huge island of Madagascar, off the east coast of Afrika. That fell through when the British Navy made shipment impossible. Hitler offered to sell the Jews to the Allied powers for $250 each, but the Allies did not want them either. The worst of the Jewish extermination was during the last two years of the war, when the Germans were clearly losing the war.

There was no shortage of slave labor by that stage of the war, but there were acute shortages of many other things, particularly food. So Germany was faced with the choice of feeding the military (and their own civil population) or they could feed everyone else. They made the deliberate decision to supply the German nation and military and starve everyone else. (The Dutch seem to have been starved of food and fuel as much as anyone.)
I expect any rational people anywhere would do the same thing, including Americans, if faced with the same stark choice.

Anonymous Crew April 24, 2017 3:22 PM  

So far there have been 705,091,274 racisms since #BREXIT, and you know what. I. Don't. Give. A. Damn!

Anonymous bolg April 24, 2017 3:27 PM  

@75

thank you sir

Blogger Old Ez April 24, 2017 3:30 PM  

"Several "Final Solutions" were considered during the war...." "all of which were comparatively humane", you might have added.

But this actually militates against conspiracy theories of intentional mass murder. It shows that Germans went out of their way again and again to find a humane solution.

Anonymous bolg April 24, 2017 3:35 PM  

as for the bombing of Eastern Europe, Sofia was bombed into the ground.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Bombing_of_Sofia_in_World_War_II

Blogger DonReynolds April 24, 2017 3:39 PM  

@98 Panzerman
"It is used to turn Whites into groveling submissives and to raise (((Skypes))) to the status of Holy People Who Must Not Be Questioned or Resisted."

Submissive is certainly a good way to describe it. In 2012, I was in Berlin with American girlfriend and she wanted to visit the Holocaust (Museum) Memorial. We paid to get in, like everyone else but the rules were very strict....no talking and no photos. I did not take any pictures but I was whispering to girlfriend as we went through the exhibits (in English) and we were promptly ordered to LEAVE. Absolutely no talking is permitted in the memorial. I did not bother to ask if this rule also applied to Jewish prayers.

Anonymous Mike April 24, 2017 3:43 PM  

"national socialism" was defined as against communism and also against usury and international finance capitalism....

The alt-right is also international finance capitalism (globalism).

If you define "Right" as National Review cuckservativism, then technically the alt-right is really Left.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2017 3:54 PM  

@111 Funny, you'd think they'd want people to take as many photos as possible.

Blogger DonReynolds April 24, 2017 3:59 PM  

@109 Old Ez
"But this actually militates against conspiracy theories of intentional mass murder. It shows that Germans went out of their way again and again to find a humane solution."

There were inhumane acts on a limited scale with regard to medical experimentation and the like, but I personally consider ZyklonB to be a humane death, much more so than many combat deaths or being blown to bits by high explosives or burned alive by incendiaries. Starvation was certainly more cruel than poison gas, which was relatively quick and painless. They were tricked into thinking they were going into showers, so there was little reason to be anxious or panic.

Deliberate cruelty would include mental pain and physical pain, and that seems to be the exception rather than the purpose. To the extent that prisoners were useful as slave labor they were used as such. At the Fall of France, there were 2 million French soldiers who became slave labor for the Nazi machine....which no one ever mentions. When prisoners were no longer useful, then they were exterminated. What I blame more than Nazi ideology is the German mania for efficiency and order....which seems to be a cultural trait.

Blogger Old Ez April 24, 2017 4:11 PM  

@114, speaking of Zyklon B, did you know the official line taken by the Holocaust industry is that it takes more zyklon B to kill a louse than it does a human being? They had to adopt this line because it was apparent from the evidence that the rooms purported to be for mass-gassing of human beings had never been exposed to levels of hydrogen cyanide necessary to execute humans. There's lots about this on the CODOH forums.

As to the shower claim, it is simply false. The only evidence for the existence of dummy showers used to gas people comes from "survivor" eyewitness accounts. What happened was that someone showed you a picture of some pipes when you were a kid and told you "those pipes carried gas into showers where they killed Jews". As a kid, what are you going to do? Ask for proof?

And that's how most people come to believe in Holocaustianity: you show a six year old child piles of emaciated and moldering dead bodies and their critical faculties shut off. They will believe whatever you tell them to believe. And what you tell them will stick.

Anonymous Sixth largest island April 24, 2017 4:23 PM  

I get it. So if the entire world is browbeaten into believing the goalseeked number, God himself will be swindled into manifesting the prophesy on the early side. The utter shamelessness of it, believing that running industrial scale frauds against men could up their power to the point of seizing even a destiny by fraud.

Blogger Matamoros April 24, 2017 4:44 PM  

106 DonReynolds Several "Final Solutions" were considered during the war.

Don't forget the Jewish Final Solution for Germany as outlined in Kaufman's "Germany Must Perish".

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 24, 2017 4:56 PM  

Don't even think bout it wrote:All this pretty much points to Hitler not wanting a world war, he just engaged in a provactive land grab in 1939 and the German Government did everything within reason to de-escalate the situation (they weren't going to cede what they gained) but the allies just wouldn't have it thus the war got worse.
I don't think any rational person with any knowledge of history thinks Hitler wanted a world war. He obviously wanted a regional war, which he could (and did) win easily. It is not perfidy on the part of other regional powers to try to stop his "land grab", merely because he didn't want them to. It should have been anticipated, and the escalation could have been prevented.

Hitler was an amateur at the Great Game, and petty tyro at war, and that is what doomed his effort. He couldn't keep the English, the Russians, or even the Americans, who are genetically prone to it, on the sideline, and was unwilling to pull back from Stalingrad, dooming his campaign, and the German people.
Hitler was a fool.

Anonymous Bobby Farr April 24, 2017 4:56 PM  

Trump thoughtfully signed a proclamation asking us to spend the whole week remembering the Holocaust.

Anonymous Bobby Farr April 24, 2017 5:00 PM  

DAYS OF REMEMBRANCE OF VICTIMS OF THE HOLOCAUST, 2017

-----------------------------------

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

On Yom HaShoah the day of Holocaust Remembrance and during this Week of Remembrance, we honor the victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution.

​The Holocaust was the state-sponsored, systematic persecution and attempted annihilation of European Jewry by the Nazi regime and its collaborators. By the end of World War II, six million Jews had been brutally slaughtered. The Nazis also targeted other groups for persecution and murder, including Roma (Gypsies), persons with mental and physical disabilities, Soviet prisoners of war, Jehovah's Witnesses, Slavs and other peoples of Europe, gays, and political opponents.

​The United States stands shoulder to shoulder with the survivors of the Holocaust, their families, and the descendants of those who were murdered. We support the Jewish diaspora and the State of Israel as we fulfill our duty to remember the victims, honor their memory and their lives, and celebrate humanity's victory over tyranny and evil. Holocaust survivors, despite scars from history's darkest days, continue to inspire us to remember the past and learn from its lessons. By sharing their experiences and wisdom, they continue to fuel our resolve to advance human rights and to combat antisemitism and other forms of hatred.

​During this week in 1945, American and Allied forces liberated the concentration camp at Dachau and other Nazi death camps, laying bare to the world the unconscionable horror of the Holocaust. We must remain vigilant against hateful ideologies and indifference. Every generation must learn and apply the lessons of the Holocaust so that such horror, atrocity, and genocide never again occur. It is our solemn obligation to reaffirm our commitment to respecting the fundamental freedoms and inherent dignity of every human being.

​Let us join together to remember and honor the victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution. We express our eternal gratitude to the liberators who selflessly risked their lives to save those of others, and we pledge to never be bystanders to evil.

​We must never forget.​

​NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, do hereby ask the people of the United States to observe the Days of Remembrance of Victims of the Holocaust, April 23 through April 30, 2017, and the solemn anniversary of the liberation of Nazi death camps, with appropriate study, prayers and commemoration, and to honor the memory of the victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution by internalizing the lessons of this atrocity so that it is never repeated.

​IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-fourth day of April, in the year two thousand seventeen, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-first.

​​​​​​DONALD J. TRUMP

Anonymous Sam the Man April 24, 2017 5:10 PM  

117,

Ahh, wrong on that. the issue is to produce more you need to build the infrastructure first. There is a really good industrial history of Germany that came out 4 to 5 years ago that shows there were building that infrastructure from 1940 on in aircraft, from early 1942 on for ground systems.

For example you need more tanks: Just make steel, right. where do you get that added steel? from ore. how do you get that : from mining. how do you increase that: labor and equipment. How do you get that?; you need to produce more mining equipment, which requires steel diverted from existing arms production.

This is occurring at the same time as you are having to draft ever increasing numbers of fit men out of the work force. yes the Germans substituted foreign labor, but you need food for that, which means increasing farming fields, which means using fertilizer, which means diverting chemical production which could make ammo to basic food production.

The US and England, by careful use of money supply could use neutral states in south America to supply lost of material (like oil), in the axis if they did not have it in central Europe they had to make the factories to make the stuff and all the allocations of material that required.

The Germans were actually much better at this than folks understand, especially as they saw a similar problem in WWI and failed at the same thing. They kept their economy running at some kind of reasonable state until mid January of 1945 when the upper Silesian industrial belt was over run. and the Hungarian oil fields were lost. Had the allies stopped On Feb 1 Germany would have fallen around May 15th~June 1st 1945 without any other effort.

In the recent studies bombing is seen as having been more effective than is generally acknowledged post war. Yes production increased by there was actually slow down in the rate in mid 43 to early 1944, when one takes into account total industrial production (such as the infrastructure needed to produce more stuff long term. A lot of effort was spent rebuilding damage that did not go into expanding production.

Blogger Lovekraft April 24, 2017 5:16 PM  

He's trolling the alt-right. Neutralize/repel.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler April 24, 2017 5:21 PM  

The Holocaust is about Karma.

It was the Jews, Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels (not Jewish but a Marxist anyway) that wrote in 1848 that they will have to genocide reactionary peoples. Who called for genocide was the Jews. Before the Holocaust the Jews genocided the Russian Royal Family.

What Jews have taken responsibility for that?

What goes around, comes around. Karma's a bitch. I cry for No Jew. Their messianic ideology of world unity calls for the destruction of race and nation. Their Messianic cult requires genocide.

God used the Nazis as swords against the godless Jews. The Nazis were the sword of the Lord.

They deserved it. And they still do--the 1965 Immigration Act, a genocidal act, genocide by ethnic dilution, is their baby. The Jews are Master genociders.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 5:24 PM  

@106

"Hitler offered to sell the Jews to the Allied powers for $250 each, but the Allies did not want them either."

On might perhaps characterize the attitude that the goyim have a greater duty to save the Tribe, than the Jews do themselves, as "chutzpah."

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel [Eretz Israel], I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
David Ben Gurion
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion

And of course, let's not forget the bombing of the Patria by Haganah, which killed over 200 Jews (and 50 of the goyim, too-- but they don't count).

https://infogalactic.com/info/Patria_disaster

Anonymous Grayman April 24, 2017 5:27 PM  

As they say, he who controls the past, controls the future.
Own the historical narrative and you can write your place in the future.

Anonymous DirkH April 24, 2017 5:31 PM  

Many things to be said, but I'll just leave it at this:
-German cyanide technology was so good that all top Nazis had one pil hidden in a hollow tooth so that they could byte on it and drop dead in their prison cell at the Nuremberg trials with 100% efficiency.
Or in other words, all witnesses died in American captivity before they could spill the beans.
This technology has been lost forever.
Imagine how simple executions could be. /sarc
-Pre WW 2 German Reich had 500,000 Jews. 380,000 of those survived the Holocaust, many via the Nazi-Zionist Ha'avara agreement. The Jews killed were mostly from the Pale Of Settlement.
-Japan offered to Weitzman or some other top Zionist to take in all Jews from the Pale Of Settlement and strike an according deal with Hitler. Japan was thankful to world Jewry for help in the Russo-Japanese war (1909? or something) (some Jewish spies delivered crucial intel regarding position of Russian fleet IIRC).
The offer was declined by the Zionists so the prophecy in the Talmud could be fulfilled which is usually read "you will return to your country minus [some Hebrew Letters decoded as 6 million via numerology]". Also, Zionists wanted a modern industrial areligious state and had no use for millions of Rabbinical Jews and wanted them gone. Also, that gave'em a great club to browbeat Germany into submission after the end of the war.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 5:39 PM  

@117

"Now why the Allies would constantly flip flop between assaulting industry and attacking civilian populations is beyond me, though in general it was the USAAF that carried out the former and the RAF that carried out the latter."

The RAF tactics had more to do with (((Frederick Lindemann's))) genocidal hatred of the German people than with rational strategic considerations, of course:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Dehousing
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Claimed_mass_killings_of_Germans_by_the_WWII_Allies

Anonymous DirkH April 24, 2017 5:49 PM  

@Avalanche: "Communism, Bolshevism, feminism, liberalism, -- all the 'isms' were founded by and for jews. ALL the isms being used to destroy US were founded by and are being USED by jews"

Interestingly, Jews use their -isms against themselves as well: Look up wife-swapping in the communist Kibbuzim; look up current rape accusations in Israel. Go to youtube and search "feminism Israel". Some Jews don't dare dating Jewish women it's that bad.

The biggest tell that Jews are complete shit at inventing social orders is the tiny number of Jews in existence while the rest of the world had a gigantic population explosion. Only Talmudic Rabbinism seems to be able to procreate at all.

If no Goyim are available they use each other as guinea pigs for mad ideologies.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 5:52 PM  

@122

"Ahh, wrong on that. the issue is to produce more you need to build the infrastructure first. There is a really good industrial history of Germany that came out 4 to 5 years ago that shows there were building that infrastructure from 1940 on in aircraft, from early 1942 on for ground systems."

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Why did the Germans only start building that infrastructure in 1940 if, as the standard narrative claims, they planned to take over the world starting in 1939?

Perhaps comparing defense spending as a percentage of GDP among the UK, US, and Germany in the mid-to-late 1930s might be helpful here. Which was the lowest? And forget about the USSR-- not even close. Revealed preferences are often more helpful than stated intentions when interpreting actual intent, especially when the entire issue is still obscured by persistent wartime propaganda.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 24, 2017 6:08 PM  

There is no question that there were many Jews in the Bolshevik party, but according to the 1922 Bolshevik party census 5.21% of party members were Jewish.

@101 Jew613
Practicing Jews, maybe... I suspect a considerably larger fraction were atheists and agnostics of Jewish background, though. Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, Trotsky, etc.

Anonymous Jamie April 24, 2017 6:09 PM  

How dare he say that the powers knew and did not act. Did he ever hear of World War 2? The Allied Powers lost millions of people in defeating the Nazis. Will the Jewish people ever remember all the blood that the peoples of the West shed for them?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 24, 2017 6:33 PM  

Jamie wrote:Will the Jewish people ever remember all the blood that the peoples of the West shed for them?
Do you ever think of the blood shed by the cattle that feed this great nation?

Anonymous Apparently April 24, 2017 7:08 PM  

How does the death toll at Auschwitz fall so dramatically without a single modification of the SIX GORILLION?

Because the death toll arrived at by even most of the earliest historians didn't take that 4 million account seriously. They made independent calculations. Gerald Reitlinger pegged it at 1mil in 1952.

It was the Soviets and the museum people who got it wrong.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 7:38 PM  

@101 "There is no question that there were many Jews in the Bolshevik party, but according to the 1922 Bolshevik party census 5.21% of party members were Jewish."

@130 "Practicing Jews, maybe... I suspect a considerably larger fraction were atheists and agnostics of Jewish background, though. Genrikh Yagoda, Lazar Kaganovich, Trotsky, etc."


From: "The Rulers of Russia," American Edition 1940, by professor Denis Fahey, C.S.S.p, D.D., D.P.h, B.A.
Here are some excerpts. You decide.
_________
"These parties, in appearance opposed to the Bolsheviks, play the Bolsheviks' game on the sly, more or less, by preventing the Russians from pulling themselves together. Out of 61 individuals at the head of these parties, there are 6 Russians and 55 Jews. No matter what may be the name adopted, a revolutionary government will be Jewish.
The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following :—

Ministry or Commissariat Name Nationality

President Oulianof (Lenine) Russian
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djougachvili Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
Food-Controller Schlichter Jew
Army and Navy Bronstein (Trotski) Jew
State-Control Lander Jew
State Lands Kauffmann Jew
Works V. Schmidt Jew
Social Relief E. Lilina (Knigissen) Jewess
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Religions Spitzberg Jew
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Hygiene Anvelt Jew
Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
Press Volodarski Jew
Elections Ouritski Jew
Justice I. Steinberg Jew
Refugees Fenigstein Jew
Refugees (Assistant) Savitch Jew
Refugees Zaslovski Jew

Out of 22 members: 3 Russians, 1 Georgian, 1 Armenian, 17 Jews.
_________

It was NOT a "russian" revolution; it was a jewish take-over.

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 7:45 PM  

@133 "Because the death toll arrived at by even most of the earliest historians didn't take that 4 million account seriously. They made independent calculations. Gerald Reitlinger pegged it at 1mil in 1952.
It was the Soviets and the museum people who got it wrong."

TOTAL propaganda -- and the damned jews STILL require 100% goy obeisance to that number! (Go read my comment @77 above and see where that "holy" number came from!)

Ask nearly ANY jew on the street how many of their tribe died: It's ALWAYS six gorillian and never any different. The whole WORLD is supposed to swoon in self-directed horror and grovel whenever their holy number is waved in front of us. It's LIES, all the way down!

And oh Snidely, Snidely: I LOVE you for this! @132 BINGO!
"Do you ever think of the blood shed by the cattle that feed this great nation?"

Anonymous Avalanche April 24, 2017 7:50 PM  

Oh, and @133 "Apparently"? -- *Apparently* you don't know how many historians have been PUT IN JAIL for trying to determine "the true number" -- in Europe sure -- but also IN AUSTRALIA (what?! what do they have to do with this?!) Even Earnest Zundel's LAWYER was put into jail for trying to defend him IN COURT!

WHY do the jews consider it mandatory to make ANY question or discussion of the holyhoax (and its numbers) a jailable offense? WHAT other event in all of history has EVER been such an offense?

(You might also ask: HOW are the jews able to get such horrific anti-speech, anti-history laws PASSED in so many countries?! And WHY is the U.S. involved in hunting down people who want to investigate this history?)

Anonymous Icicle April 24, 2017 7:57 PM  

Remember, what is important is not just the quantity of Jews in the Bolsheviks, but what positions they were holding. That does not even get into the hidden ones. Even Lenin was part Jewish (maternal grandmother).

Anonymous Apparently April 24, 2017 8:15 PM  

@135
Reitlinger's estimation at Aushwitz wasn't four million. It was less than a million. His total was 5.1 million. Poliakov's Auchwitz estimate was two million. Those were early. So, no.

That said, the six million figure touted in various pre-WW2 newspapers is definitely weird.

Anonymous Apparently April 24, 2017 8:19 PM  

@136
I don't believe people should be put in jail for Holocaust denial. Now, why don't actually address the point I made.

Anonymous Panzer Man April 24, 2017 8:40 PM  

Even if it was 6 gorillion, though, that does NOT constitute an argument for abolishing all white nations and carrying out a demographic genocide against them.

That's something along the lines of saying "You're brown-haired and I'm blond, 70 years ago a brown-haired guy murdered a blond, so that means I have the right to kick you out of your house and install this family of ghetto googles there instead!"

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey April 24, 2017 8:47 PM  

Israel has denied the US extradition request for Israeli-American dual citizen Michael Kaydar, the alleged perpetrator of hundreds of false flag bomb threat calls to US Jewish community centers:

http://www.jta.org/2017/04/23/news-opinion/united-states/israel-has-denied-u-s-request-to-extradite-teen-arrested-for-jcc-bomb-threats

This refusal does not seem to be a big story in the US media, for some reason. For those unfamiliar with the case, Kaydar is reportedly 18 years old, autistic, and has a brain tumor. In addition to making hundreds (possibly thousands) of bomb threats while avoiding multiple intelligence and law enforcement agencies for a couple of years, he was apparently running a multi-million dollar document forgery and drug trafficking business on the side.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/israeli-bomb-hoax-teen-bitcoin-on-dark-web/

I wonder if they'll give back any of the extra taxpayer shekels they got to beef up security?

Anonymous Icicle April 24, 2017 9:08 PM  

Our greatest ally.

This refusal does not seem to be a big story in the US media, (((for some reason.)))

Blogger random Earth dweller April 24, 2017 9:39 PM  

People go to jail for questioning the official Holocaust narrative but nobody seems to agree on what the official narrative actually says. Weird.

Blogger tz April 24, 2017 10:06 PM  

Before there was the Nazis, there was the genocide of the Armenians, and the Holodomor, which I can all but accuse the Jews of being Holodomor deniers. But later, there was Mao and others, yet Jews supported communists.

And most recently, perhaps it isn't 60 Million, but it is 10x whatever happened two generations ago in Europe, but it is rare to find a Jew that does more than shrug over the Abortion Holocaust.

So I tend to say "Tragic, but that was YOUR holocaust, not mine, and not the one going on now and you really didn't care when it wasn't Jews being killed, even under the Nazis".

You wanted the allies to bomb a concentration camp back then? Why don't you bomb an abortion clinic today?

Anonymous Tanjil Bren April 24, 2017 10:13 PM  

Jamie wrote:How dare he say that the powers knew and did not act. Did he ever hear of World War 2? The Allied Powers lost millions of people in defeating the Nazis. Will the Jewish people ever remember all the blood that the peoples of the West shed for them?

I think it actually goes a *lot* further than that.

They're blaming *us* for the whole damned thing...

Blogger Beau April 25, 2017 12:17 AM  

... and let us not forget about reparations from Egypt. Bastards.

That bill was collected in full by the angel of death on the night of Passover. And if that wasn't enough, the Hebrews left Egypt with ample plunder. Exodus 12:36

Anonymous Stone Display Rack April 25, 2017 2:23 AM  

We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

Blogger Miguel Bárbaro April 25, 2017 5:12 AM  

Oy vey VD! This is another shoah. Delete this post!!!

Blogger Gaiseric April 25, 2017 7:23 AM  

Avalanche wrote:@133 "Because the death toll arrived at by even most of the earliest historians didn't take that 4 million account seriously. They made independent calculations. Gerald Reitlinger pegged it at 1mil in 1952.

It was the Soviets and the museum people who got it wrong."

TOTAL propaganda -- and the damned jews STILL require 100% goy obeisance to that number! (Go read my comment @77 above and see where that "holy" number came from!)

Almost certainly more Germans were killed in the immediate post-war occupation of Germany, especially on the Soviet side, than all of the Jews that were killed in the Holocaust. It's doubtful that there even WERE six million Jews in all of Europe on the very cusp of the Holocaust.

Blogger The Other Robot April 25, 2017 7:52 AM  

Is it appropriate to wish Jews Happy Holocaust during Holocaust Affirmation Week?

Blogger Tom Kratman April 25, 2017 10:19 AM  

Oh, c'mon, Vox, fun's fun but he didn't lower the claimed number. He only made a claim of the number who could have been saved (not a chance, really) _of_ the total alleged killed.

Blogger Lucas April 25, 2017 3:22 PM  

LOL

Anonymous Opus April 25, 2017 10:25 PM  

When I was young the story was that the Jews met their fate in ovens, then more recently it was said that they were gassed. It appears from the above that now its the ovens again. They don't seem to be able to get their story straight.

If however there never was a holocaust then the Jews would not be permanent victims. No matter how many zeros, they use they always start their catastrophes and everything else with a 6 - creation, days in ark, those killed in Jerusalem in A.D. 66 to name just a few. Strange.

Blogger budbrewer April 26, 2017 7:56 PM  

“We replaced the weakness with strength; from a helpless people we turned into a strong nation; from a nation without defense we turned into a state with a defense force, one of the strongest in the world.”

The lesson of the Holocaust, he said, “is that we must be able to defend ourselves, by ourselves, against any threat, against any enemy.”

He warned that “those who plan to annihilate us are placing themselves in danger of annihilation.”

Nice! Never again, indeed. May God continue to bless and protect Israel.

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