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Sunday, April 02, 2017

The growing problem of immigration

Once more proving that the USA is not, and has never been, "a nation of immigrants":
Proponents of immigration to the United States often contend that the country is a “nation of immigrants,” and certainly immigration has played an important role in American history. Nevertheless, immigrants currently represent 13.5 percent of the total U.S. population, the highest percentage in over 100 years. The Census Bureau projects that by 2025, the immigrant share of the population will reach 15 percent, surpassing the United States’ all-time high of 14.8 percent, reached in 1890. Without a change in policy, that share will continue to increase throughout the twenty-first century. Counting immigrants plus their descendants, the Pew Research Center estimates that since 1965, when the United States liberalized its laws, immigration has added 72 million people to the country—a number larger than the current population of France.


Given these numbers, it is striking that public officials in the United States have focused almost exclusively on the country’s 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants, who account for only one quarter of the total immigrant population. Legal immigration has a much larger impact on the United States, yet the country’s leaders have seldom asked the big questions. What, for example, is the absorption capacity of the nation's schools and infrastructure? How will the least-skilled Americans fare in labor market competition with immigrants? Or, perhaps most importantly, how many immigrants can the United States assimilate into its culture? Trump has not always approached these questions carefully, or with much sensitivity, but to his credit he has at least raised them.
Notice that the intrinsic dishonesty of the civic nationalists rears its head again when they claim second-generation Mexican immigrants are NOT immigrants, because paperwork, but fifth-, sixth-, and seventh-generation American colonists somehow are. How could the USA ever have been "a nation of immigrants" when, dating back to the American Revolution, the majority of white Americans of English descent were citizens born in the United States?

Where was George Washington born? Where was Thomas Jefferson born? Where was John Adams born? From where did they emigrate?

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73 Comments:

Anonymous Godfrey April 02, 2017 9:26 AM  

Israel has a wall.

Blogger Dave April 02, 2017 9:37 AM  

People need to stop using the phrase "illegal immigrants". It's "illegal alien"; an immigrant is someone who comes here legally, period.

Anonymous Eric the Red April 02, 2017 9:40 AM  

How many times does it have to be corrected?
That 11-12 million illegals figure is a Fake Statistic. The reality is something more like 30-35 million invaders.

When you start with a false supposition, you end with a false conclusion.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass (formerly Hair) April 02, 2017 9:42 AM  

The last time the government took this seriously was when I was 9 or 10 years old with the Jordan Commission. Unsurprisingly, they recommended less immigration. Yeah it went nowhere.

Blogger Achilles April 02, 2017 10:05 AM  

The government supports this. The globalist elite support this. The Left support this. Many on the Right support this. The masses are oblivious. Can we end fix this peacefully or do we become the villain America needs?

Blogger Thucydides April 02, 2017 10:12 AM  

Agree with @3; the 11 million number has been suspiciously static for years and is much more likely to be in the 30-35 million mark. We are talking about enough people to populate Canada (although we are already being screwed by our own Liberal Government's insane policy of allowing up to 300,000 immigrants per year, plus 30,000 "refugees" from Syria [because having Syrians assault girls in an Edmonton shopping mall is no big deal, right?]).

I'm maybe far more of an optimist than Vox, or at least more on the Alt-West side of the equation, but getting rid of all 70+ million legal immigrants is perhaps overkill. Getting rid of illegals and those who refuse to assimilate is job one, but American history shows that there was a very determined effort by all parties (government, business, churches and other social institutions) to work hard to assimilate people between the late 1880's and up until immigration was shut down in the early 1920's. Many songs, festivals and other aspects of "Americana" were deliberately created then for the specific purpose of acculturalizing people into becoming American. Samuel Huntington's book "Who Are We" discusses this in great detail.

How successful this was may be open to debate (I recognize there is a strong opinion that no amount of time or assimilation will turn people into "Americans"), but we should also recognize that there has been a very concerted effort since the rise of the "New Left" in the 1960's to deliberately reverse and undo assimilation, and indeed prevent the aculturalization of native born American children to American values.

Once you get rid of the illegals and the ones who refuse to assimilate, then rebuilding the structures and institutions that socialize people to *become* Americans should be the next job (and eliminating the cultural Marxists who dominate academia, the Media and the political and bureaucratic class is the only way to ensure that happens). People have to be socialized to become citizens and embrace the values of their culture and nation. Luckily, vast swaths of America are still "American" in culture and values, so when the "Blue" model collapses into fiscal, moral and cultural bankruptcy, there will still be a foundation for the survivors to build upon.

Blogger seeingsights April 02, 2017 10:21 AM  

Somewhat related to the topic: One can point to a country to show the success or failure of a social policy. For example, for the failure of socialism, one can point to Venezuela. For the example of a successful market economy, one can point to Hong Kong. According to some figures (see Infogalactic) the per capita income in Hong Kong is slightly higher that the US.
For examples of the nationalist ideal, one can point to Hungary and Poland. Each country is ethnically homogeneous and Christian in nature. Each country has no desire to import migrants. Each country have market economies yet a goal of each government is to have tight labor markets, which increases wages and grows a middle class.
Poland and Hungary are members of the Visegrad Group, the others being the Czech Republic and Slovakia. 'If counted as a single nation state, the Visegrád Group is the fifth largest economy in Europe and 12th largest in the world' (Infogalactic)

Blogger Matthew April 02, 2017 10:32 AM  

I am the direct descendant of a colonist who sailed here on the Carolina 11 generations ago. We have never been immigrants.

Blogger Salt April 02, 2017 10:36 AM  

The English who first got here were not immigrants. They were conquerors.

Anonymous Canada is Cucked April 02, 2017 10:39 AM  

Define "refuse to assimilate." You can't even get white Liberals to act like Americans.

Anonymous Mark Auld April 02, 2017 10:42 AM  

The takeover of our school system is at the core of our problem, the Marxists have turned the left into a rival army instead of political opposition. If the economy does collapse as predicted, I see no way to avoid armed struggle.

Blogger Michael Maier April 02, 2017 11:04 AM  

Dave wrote:People need to stop using the phrase "illegal immigrants". It's "illegal alien"; an immigrant is someone who comes here legally, period.

Dammit! I didn't even realize they'd got me with that one!

Illegal Alien... I bet the lynch mobs come for you on Twitter for using that one. I cannot even remember the last time I saw it.

Blogger Pteronarcyd April 02, 2017 11:09 AM  

"We are a nation of immigrants" is effective rhetoric, because it is rooted in truth. When my daughter was in second grade her class studied pioneers. The teacher asked if any of the students had pioneer relatives. I told her that her great-grandfather was a pioneer, because he was born in a sod house on the Kansas prairie. I wrote up a blurb about his life to share with her class, and she reported back that she was the only kid in the class with pioneer blood.

I assume she had fellow students who were ignorant of their pioneering ancestry. I could have told my daughter that three out of four of my grandparents were born to pioneering families of European descent on the prairies of North America, but I limited my story to the grandparent with the best pioneering tale.

Most parents seem not to pass on their family history to their children these days. Thus, many descendants of settlers may not be aware of the fact that their ancestors came from Europe to homestead and settle a wide-open continent where rural life was the norm and state welfare was virtually nonexistent. Those rugged individualists were a far cry from today's urban parasites.

Blogger Pteronarcyd April 02, 2017 11:19 AM  

Michael Maier wrote @12:
"Illegal Alien... I bet the lynch mobs come for you on Twitter for using that one. I cannot even remember the last time I saw it."

Words mean things. Never adopt the terminology of the PC police. If you do, they win.

Illegal alien is the proper legal terminology; eg:

- 8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

- 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

- 8 U.S. Code § 1365 - Reimbursement of States for costs of incarcerating illegal aliens and certain Cuban nationals

"Illegal Alien - The Proper Terminology" --
http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-alien-the-proper-terminology

Blogger tz April 02, 2017 11:20 AM  

half-OT, but a nice summary on Europe:
article on no-go zones in Europe, NYT fake news says they don't exist
We are getting that here and need to stop.

Blogger Michael Maier April 02, 2017 11:37 AM  

RE: "Illegal Alien"

I sure ain't objecting. I am just shocked I had stopped using it and didn't realize.

I am going to use it fervently now.

Blogger Gapeseed April 02, 2017 11:52 AM  

The thought leaders among the civic nationalists typically attended elite schools and developed or used the nation of immigrants line in conscious and unconscious dialogue with their more liberal (and often foreign) classmates. Not everyone has what it takes to be a firebrand, after all, and a social diet of locusts and wild honey won't get you many dates. Meanwhile, rich foreign nationals pay full retail for tuition, with many offering lavish sweeteners for the luxury sheepskins to jump in line ahead of more capable applicants. So the schools themselves, already chock full of professors and starving teaching assistants who believe the leftist open borders cant, have every incentive to keep the radicalism going full bore, with dissenters punished with bad grades and unpleasantness of many stripes. Merely attending the schools gives the sense that the United States demographics are far more global in nature than reality. After graduation, the old thought patterns and habits of the graduates die slowly if not hard, and more slowly and harder still for graduates migrating to coastal elite conclaves. And although the Eurocrats are diligent in narrowing the gap, the line has the additional benefit of being true relative to other countries.

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 11:53 AM  

I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts on the spectrum of anti-Western Civilization vs pro-Western Civilization. My quick thoughts:

Far left - outright enemies of Western civilization and actively seek to destroy it.

Globalists - leftist globalists are overt enemies as well while corporate globalists are not as overt but just want to make money and so allowing unfettered movement of capital (e.g. move factory to Vietnam to take advantage of cheap labor and presumably less regulations) and labor (bring cheap labor to developed countries) and goods/services for sale diminishes Western Civilization by allowing in people incompatible with it.

Civic nationalists - True civic nationalists (as opposed to fake ones) strongly promote assimilation and some sort of relatively cohesive state-wide culture. This could be somewhat like the US in the early 20th Century where adopting the American culture was strongly encouraged. Racial, religious or other differences are allowed as long as a certain level of assimilation to the country's culture is achieved. In principle, could preserve Western Civilization if they actually limited immigrants to those who were compatible and enforced assimilation. However, the US started abandoning civic nationalism in the 60s and it's the globalists and left that have guided it for the last 50 years. Civic nationalism may be too much like balancing a pencil on end, possible in theory but too difficult to maintain vigilance due to leftists and globalists that will try to impose their agendas.

Nationalists - a much more homogeneous grouping by race, religion, and other cultural factors. Much more naturally stable than civic nationalism. Western Civilization nationalists will be much more likely maintain the racial and cultural inputs that allowed Western Civilization to flourish in the first place.

Ultra-nationalists - now swinging over to an area of supremacism that often seeks to dominate others and in some ways has gone full circle over to share the totalitarian impulse of the far left. E.g. Nazi Germany. This is destructive for Western nations since it leads to wars and ruin.

In much of Western Civilization, it's globalism and leftism that have been the dominant forces over the last 50 or more years.

Civic nationalism (of the Trumpian version of what's best for the country, including people of all races that are already here) would be a vast improvement to the current situation. Removing the criminal illegal aliens is an important first step. Further removing the rest of the illegal aliens will help shift things back to a somewhat manageable culture. Also, there's a strong need to fight leftist culture since they have been key in fighting against the pillars of Western Civilization. Reducing immigration to only those that will actually lead to a better and more cohesive country would be helpful.

Going even further, nationalism, that restores a much higher racial and cultural homogeneity, similar to what things were like 50+ years ago in Western countries, would lead to a stronger and more stable Western Civilization.

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 12:00 PM  

The corporate globalists tend to not be overtly Western Civilization and may idealistically even think that they can take Western Civilization to the rest of the world. However, their opening of borders brings about a dilution of the Western nations and leads to the decline of Western Civilization.

Anonymous JAG April 02, 2017 12:01 PM  

Eric the Red wrote:How many times does it have to be corrected?

That 11-12 million illegals figure is a Fake Statistic. The reality is something more like 30-35 million invaders.

When you start with a false supposition, you end with a false conclusion.


Yep, the 11-12 million is total bullshit. There are more than that in California alone.

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 12:03 PM  

However, corporate globalists are infected with the equality dogmas of the Left and are thus blind to reality. More leftist corporate globalists will relish in the thought of destroying or at least humbling Western Civilization, white people and the "patriarchy."

Anonymous VFM #6306 April 02, 2017 12:06 PM  

The "illegal alien" issue was Ted Cruz's constitutional beard. He hoped it would symbolize both a common ground that everyone would agree on but be misinterpreted by factions: the antimmigrationists would think "a good start!" while the "legal melting-potters" would think "no further than banning illegals."

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 02, 2017 12:06 PM  

Colonists. These are colonists. They are colonizing.

They have to go back.

Blogger Roger G2 April 02, 2017 12:08 PM  

"From where did THEY immigrate?" (Emphasis mine)

Very good.
I must repeat this the next time it comes up in debate with a "huh derrr muh nation of immigrants" puppet or refugee hugger as I name off widely recognized Revolutionary War era Americans.

This is an insight I haven't thought of or heard before. Thanks!

Blogger David Power April 02, 2017 12:09 PM  

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Anonymous HWNIU April 02, 2017 12:15 PM  

@Dave @Michael Some people still use the term illegal *alien* in their products.

https://www.redbubble.com/people/magashirts/collections/676722-illegal-aliens

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 12:15 PM  

@25 Good points, David. I would add that they also say, "having children is evil."

So many white people (and of particular import, women, since they have the ultimate power to decide if they have children or not in our society) think that having children is not worth it or that it will harm the world or that there's already too many people or that they have so many things to do before they get around to having kids. Unless this attitude changes all of the developed nations of the world will fade away.

Blogger David Power April 02, 2017 12:15 PM  

The Left is conducting a four pronged assault on White Western Culture.

- Multiculturalism
- Feminism.
- Mass Immigration.
- Abortion.


And each prong is tipped with a poisonous lie...

- Diversity is our strength.
- Women don't need men.
- Islam is a religion of peace.
- Unborn children are subhuman.

Blogger Ned April 02, 2017 12:21 PM  

For several years my wife taught an English Learner Language (ELL) program in public school. Many of the Mexican Illegal Aliens couldn't read or write Spanish - yet she was supposed to teach people illiterate in their own native language English skills in two semesters. Right.

Wanna understand why 18 YO illegal aliens were in a 9th grade class?

It's because the public school systems don't truly give a rodent's behind about teaching students - just having bodies occupying a class so they can collect federal funds. Too bad if they disrupt those who want to actually learn.

My wife no longer teaches at public school. And it's much worse now than when she taught this class 10 years ago.

Meanwhile, Carlos Slim is allegedly offering classes to Mexicans on how to invade and game the U.S. system.

These invaders are typically people you wouldn't want living in your neighborhood if you were Mexican and living in Mexico.

Anonymous Rocklea April 02, 2017 12:23 PM  

Muslims understand outgrouping, as do the media and the left, and the Japanese, and and and... The 16 points are better without points 15 and 16, they seem to be there for the feelz anyway and are particularly useless if one takes the view that nations are a people and not a border. Note that the absence of 15 and 16 does not mean advocating their opposite. But 7 conflicts with 15 and besides you have to feel superior to win culturally. 10 can adequately capture 16, outgrouping (winning) will inevitably be aggressive.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 02, 2017 12:27 PM  

The relevant question to me is, when wave after wave of in-grouping arrives, will whites do a better job coalescing than will Mestizos, blacks, Asians, MENAs, etc., etc.?

I'm optimistic that the answer is yes. The coalition of the fringes is not cohesive enough to forge the necessary alliances when Whitey's seemingly endless tolerance finally evaporates.

They'll be killing each other over the dwindling scraps. (munches popcorn.)

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 12:34 PM  

Once they kill the golden goose they'll be fighting each other over the carcass.

Blogger Sam April 02, 2017 12:40 PM  

@6
Won't work. It didn't work for blacks and it is not going to work for Mexicans.

Blogger VD April 02, 2017 12:57 PM  

But 7 conflicts with 15 and besides you have to feel superior to win culturally.

No, it does not. No, you don't.

Anonymous JAG April 02, 2017 1:02 PM  

David Power wrote:The Left is conducting a four pronged assault on White Western Culture.

- Multiculturalism

- Feminism.

- Mass Immigration.

- Abortion.


And each prong is tipped with a poisonous lie...

- Diversity is our strength.

- Women don't need men.

- Islam is a religion of peace.

- Unborn children are subhuman.


Environmentalism is the fifth plank. For decades the left have been brow beating whites into having less children because of "over population". Added with abortion and feminism we get a situation where after a few decades the same shitlibs come back with importing foreigners to replace us because "you aren't having enough children to sustain". It's evil on a level beyond what most people know as "evil".

Also note that each of those lsogans aligns nicely with Orwell's 1984.

War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery

This is why I believe that leftism as a whole is the Anti-Christ.

Blogger haus frau April 02, 2017 1:04 PM  

My older sister married into a Cuban immigrant family and we had a moderately uncomfortable conversation on what it means to be American and what assimilation involves just the other day. I really do like my sister and her family so I didn't tell her they had to go back but that sure did pop into my head a few times. I had a very rare opportunity to use what I've read in these articles for once, including assimilation is intermarriage and cannot be accomplished just by adopting magical ideas. They were enthusiastic Cruz supporters but also want closed borders and recognize that successful immigration must be a trickle not a torrent in order to force integration. She is entirely invested in the melting pot, "America is an idea" propaganda for obvious personal reasons. Actually, she outright told me America is an idea. I pointed out that Hillary Clinton is nothing but American so America cannot possibly be an idea. She dropped the point immediately and moved on to using her in-laws as an example of good, complete assimilation, that they are American as much as anyone. I did my best impersonation of diplomacy and asked
"So they, and by extension you and your husband, have no loyalties to any other country but America? They aren't at all concerned about US policy towards Cuba and Cuba's internal politics anymore than I am about Venezuela's"
"Hey, I care about Venezuela too."
"Really? You and your in-laws care about Venezuela just as much as you care about Cuba?"
"You know, I just don't want to go there."
See, this blank wall of feelings blocks the conversation from going any further where, on the other hand, she would have no problem with recognizing that a Cuban cannot become German just by moving to Germany and taking up a German lifestyle. German ethnicity is German blood but America is just an idea because the alternative is too uncomfortable. But I even then, the immigration mythology is at a breaking point even for cuckservatives which is why she changed the subject.

Anonymous 11B April 02, 2017 1:23 PM  

How could the USA ever have been "a nation of immigrants" when,

The other "tell" that these people make is when they state that Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant. If we were a nation of immigrants, why would Hamilton be labeled as such, but Washington and Jefferson not?

Additionally the Huff po was sending around a tweet that claimed 7 of the 39 signers of the Constitution were immigrants. Likewise, if we were a nation of immigrants then why weren't all the signers immigrants?

OpenID archerfisher21 April 02, 2017 1:34 PM  

Hey Vox, what was that about lower IQ's, Atlanta's feral population, and the 85 bridge collapsing?

Well, a dindu is charged with first degree arson... apparently something about smoking crack?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/atlanta-highway-fire-suspect-basil-eleby-charged-first-degree-arson-n741566

Blogger Mr. Naron April 02, 2017 1:46 PM  

My ancestors came over from Scotland in the 1730s. They settled in the wilderness west of the Carolinas and survived. The Naron's have been counted in every census in US history. Two things set them apart from 20th century immigrants, legal and illegal. 1. They had no support from government or mutual aid societies. Both are more than abundant today. 2. They were border types who brought very little attachment to the old country save an odd fixation on witch burning (it's in our family history). Settlers like my family, the Scots-Irish types, have known no other identity than American for three centuries. If people can't square their thinking on immigration with that reality, they don't care about truth.

Blogger praetorian April 02, 2017 1:56 PM  

Counting immigrants plus their descendants, the Pew Research Center estimates that since 1965, when the United States liberalized its laws, immigration has added 72 million people to the country—a number larger than the current population of France.

I should look more into that whole 1965 thing...

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 02, 2017 2:02 PM  

For several years my wife taught an English Learner Language (ELL) program in public school. Many of the Mexican Illegal Aliens couldn't read or write Spanish - yet she was supposed to teach people illiterate in their own native language English skills in two semesters.

Spanish is not their native language, because they are not Spaniards. They are illiterate mestizo peasants who can be relied upon to vote the Party line. Just the thing to replace white Americans with.

Blogger Kathy April 02, 2017 2:13 PM  

My great grandparents on my Mom's paternal side came from Belarus. They left an extremely poor community to come here to America. They came legally.
They never spoke English, they didn't naturalize (as far as I know, I haven't located papers yet)..their children were bilingual. My great grandfather spent time in both the Russian military and American, then fought in WWII despite his then advanced age.
You know what they didn't do? They didn't commit crimes or live off the government. They saved money from working hard and bought a home.

Anonymous VFM 3061 "Chief Who Notice Things Make Chief Go 'Hmm'" April 02, 2017 2:25 PM  

"You have to go back" is a good meme. It implies that them staying here isn't an option.

But maybe a clarification is in order, though: "You to go back where you came from, or you can stay here but on a lower floor. About 6' lower. Alien's choice."

Anonymous 11B April 02, 2017 2:39 PM  

OT - A while ago Vox suggested that we form an all female infantry battalion and allow it to go into combat. He said the Taliban would probably capture and rape the lot of them.

Check out this video from Sweden. Three female cops can't seem to cope with one migrant who pretty much humiliates them, their uniform and their country.

Blogger MadMax 1861 April 02, 2017 2:54 PM  

Deport all the illegals.Flat rate welfare(no increase for more kids). Start a white baby boom with new massive favored tax status for filing married with one spouse working and huge exemptions for their dependents.

Anonymous BBGKB April 02, 2017 3:00 PM  

The globalist elite support this. The Left support this. Many on the Right support this

The left wants more stupid 3rdworlders to vote for more free stuff, the Cuckservatives want more corrupt 3rdworlders to vote for more corruption, less Jacksonian/Hamilton restrictions. All 3rdworlders are more medically needy than whites & east Asians. There is no way in hell that enough blacks donate enough blood to cover the blood products used by sickle cell patients. We keep discovering genes that whammy peoples general health but let them survive in shitty situations without whiteys meds.

For the example of a successful market economy, one can point to Hong Kong.

People need to stop pointing to Hong Kong without acknowledging that when the jewish bolsiviks helped Moa kill off 100 million of his own countrymen they were targeting the type of Chinese that exist in Hong Kong & in other nations more than what is left in mainland china. It's like if President Clinton said he was going to kill off all redheads except those living in TX, then wondering why redheads exist more there than anywhere else. Just replace the phenotype redhead with ______ .

Define "refuse to assimilate." You can't even get white Liberals to act like Americans.

Shitlibs even had to threaten a gay pride parade in NYC because it wasn't leftist enough. Don't be the first to stop clapping.
http://gaycitynews.nyc/hop-accedes-resistance-demand/

Blogger praetorian April 02, 2017 3:28 PM  

OT: lol grlpower in sweden

3 female cops beaten by 1 male refugee after trying to arrest for arson attacks.

Blogger tz April 02, 2017 4:00 PM  

The crony corporate globalists do not believe in equality - they want a compliant mass of delta-minus-minus workers they can exploit.

Aside: Can you name any Ayn Rand character that was a minority (beyond Francisco d'Anconia, copper mine magnate) - she had empowered women characters, but didn't worry about race.

Blogger tz April 02, 2017 4:01 PM  

The crony corporate globalists do not believe in equality - they want a compliant mass of delta-minus-minus workers they can exploit.

Aside: Can you name any Ayn Rand character that was a minority (beyond Francisco d'Anconia, copper mine magnate) - she had empowered women characters, but didn't worry about race.

Blogger tz April 02, 2017 4:02 PM  

@47 - Why Thor-ina is absurd. She at least should have a distaff instead of a hammer.

Blogger Sheila4g April 02, 2017 4:41 PM  

Some friends over for dinner last night shared a video I had not seen, here or anywhere else on Alt-Right or even TruCon sites. How did I miss this? Was anyone else here aware of this? It is, of course, titled "Racist Reaction" but should properly be called "You're not My Mate." Watch this magnificent Englishman:

racist reaction

Blogger Duke Norfolk April 02, 2017 5:04 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:How did I miss this?

Yeah, I saw that some time ago. I'm pretty sure someone linked to it here, not that it really matters.

That guy was fantastic. A real cool customer for sure.

Anonymous Grayman April 02, 2017 5:19 PM  

Call them "illegal invaders" it drives then insane. Being called an invader seems to be particularly effective at triggering them.

Blogger HanSolo April 02, 2017 6:34 PM  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767301/Muslim-refugee-20-raped-10-year-old-boy-bedroom-claimed-culturally-acceptable-sexually-assault-children-homeland.html

Muslim refugee, 20, who raped a boy, 10, in his Sydney home says what he did 'is not a crime because it is acceptable in his homeland'

Blogger allyn71 April 02, 2017 7:20 PM  

How did I miss this?

This was out a while ago. This guy was saying "You gotta go back" before it was cool. Put on a clinic, even while about half sauced.

Blogger DonReynolds April 02, 2017 7:23 PM  

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Blogger DonReynolds April 02, 2017 7:28 PM  

Very good, Vox.
The USA is NOT a "nation of immigrants".

During the colonial period, before 1783, there were 17 British colonies on North America. Thirteen of these colonies rebelled against British rule and became an independent country. ALL British subjects who arrived in those 13 colonies (during 160 years) were NEVER considered immigrants! This was British America and the Crown guaranteed each subject, from the very beginning, that their citizenship status would be unchanged by going to the colonies in North America.

The Founding Stock of the USA were never immigrants of any sort. An immigrant is a person who goes to another country to live. The colonies were NOT "another country". Here we had the English church, money, law, courts, traditions, customs, taxes, language, flag and rule. They were also free to return to the British Isles or go to another British colony, without any change in their status as British subjects.

There WERE non-British citizens living in the colonies. New Amsterdam was the original name of New York and the first colonists were Dutch. The Swedes had a colony that later became Delaware. The French had a number of persons living in what became the Louisiana Purchased during Jefferson's administration. The first labor strike in North America was by Polish glass blowers in Virginia, because they were not allowed to vote. Balts were particularly valued for their experience in forestry. But none of that would justify saying that the USA is a "nation of immigrants". That is simply a lie.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable April 02, 2017 7:35 PM  

The Mexican/Muslim colonists have to go back.

And so do the illegal aliens.

And so do the illegal babies.

And so do the legal temps.

They ALL have to go back.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable April 02, 2017 7:38 PM  

My ancestors fought for a country of their own and democracy in America once. I can do it again.

Blogger DonReynolds April 02, 2017 7:40 PM  

@37 11B
Alexander Hamilton was never an immigrant. He was not born in one of the original 13 colonies. He grew up on a British colony in the Caribbean and through a benefactor, came to New York to attend college. He was admitted to Kings College (now called Columbia University) and got caught up with the spirit of 1776. He joined the revolutionary cause and became one of George Washington's favorites, even commanded a unit at Yorktown.
He was like nearly all revolutionaries a British subject but he was never an immigrant.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable April 02, 2017 7:45 PM  

To clarify, I have ancestors on different sides of Civil War I, and they each fought once for a country of their own and democracy in America. Mayflower and Rebel.

Both American. And the left expects me to just roll over for their dictatorial bureaucrats and black-robed tyrants? Their denial of HBD is literally insane.

Blogger DonReynolds April 02, 2017 7:56 PM  

@2 Dave
You are totally correct.
"Illegal immigrant" is a filthy Media term and ignores US immigration laws. The ONLY immigrants are those who came here legally and are part of the immigration system. Everyone else is an illegal alien, or a criminal alien, or an enemy alien.

Likewise, it still chaps my backside when I hear people referred to as "refugees". This is another totally bogus Media term. NONE of these people are refugees under International law. Those war refugees from Syria, fleeing the civil war, lost their refugee status the moment they set foot in Turkey. They ONLY retain the refugee status until they enter the First Country. They do not have the ability to search the globe in search of the best money deal. Only 1 out of 5 of the "migrants" ..... another Media term ..... would ever be considered Syrian war refugees. They are not even from Syria and were never considered to be refugees anywhere.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 02, 2017 8:24 PM  

Dave wrote:People need to stop using the phrase "illegal immigrants". It's "illegal alien"; an immigrant is someone who comes here legally, period.

I agree with you -- but I prefer the term "Invaders", as it has a connotation that more accurately reflects reality.

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Anonymous Mr. Rational April 02, 2017 11:24 PM  

JAG wrote:Environmentalism is the fifth plank. For decades the left have been brow beating whites into having less children because of "over population".
And that's how you tell that they're anti-White, not anti-overpopulation.  The actual overpopulation is among third-worlders, and the proper response is to promote contraception, abortion and sterilization among them wherever they are (especially here).  Westerners care for their environment and deserve not to have to pave it over to accomodate alien hordes.

BTW, that's also how you know that the Mexico City policy is wrong.

Anonymous friendo April 03, 2017 1:13 AM  

An old Polish saying goes: "The fatherland is earth and graves. Nations that lose their memory lose their life."

I would be OK with a voting system where you get one vote per each generation of your family that was born on American soil and buried in American soil. Under this system, my entire family, by blood or marriage, would get a grand total of 0 votes. It'd be a roughly even split between Republican and Democrat votes lost, but it doesn't matter. Especially the most recent election drove it home - we don't really have any business voting. Not yet.

Blogger JP April 03, 2017 4:10 AM  

Where did the New Left come from? Were they Americans, or (((americans)))?

Civic nationalism only (barely) works in a society that values honesty. There's precious few of those in the world.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 03, 2017 9:07 AM  

David Horowitz, in his book Radical Son says that the New Left, before he left it, was mostly composed of, and entirely organized by (((Americans))) who were the first generation of those who managed to evade or survive the concentration camps. Their gratitude towards us for providing safe harbor for their families has been to ransack our country, work tirelessly to hijack our government, and overthrow our society.

At a conference in Managua, Nicaragua, he noted that the attendees were all "self-hating Jews"

Blogger Pteronarcyd April 03, 2017 10:03 AM  

HanSolo wrote @18:
"True civic nationalists (as opposed to fake ones) strongly promote assimilation and some sort of relatively cohesive state-wide culture."

If immigrants assimilated there would be no problem. Our current dysfunctional society arose because many immigrants either choose not to assimilate or are unable to do so. Those who will not or cannot assimilate must be denied citizenship and sent back. Those in this group who were wrongly naturalized must be denaturalized and sent back. And, we need a zero tolerance policy regwrding providing social services, including education, to aliens. The Constitution was written for "We the people," not aliens.

Anonymous Yankee Imperialist April 03, 2017 12:32 PM  

The English who originally each founded a colony were settlers who conquered their surrounding area. People thereafter who came were immigrants who assisted in its colonization. The French, the Dutch, the Swedes, the Germans, the Jews...there were several non-English groups who also underwent this path. As the Thirteen Colonies forged their collective and individual identity and declared its independence, its citizens identified with as being American. Eventually, the Founding Fathers granted Congress the right to set up criteria for citizenship. These immigrants in the past had assimilated, as will future generations of immigrants.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 April 03, 2017 5:00 PM  

The focus on illegal aliens is understandable - it's a public position one used to be able to take without risking charges of racism. Why, even Bill and Hillary were once publicly opposed to illegal aliens.

Blogger DonReynolds April 03, 2017 10:54 PM  

@70 Yankee Imperialist
None of the British subjects that arrived in British America (which included the original 13 states) were EVER immigrants of any sort. This was not another country. This was British for over 160 years and no British subject was ever considered an immigrant, which was guaranteed by the Crown from the beginning of colonial America.
The first British immigrants to arrive in the USA would have been after 1783. The Founding Stock of this country were not immigrants. Those came later.

Blogger DonReynolds April 03, 2017 11:04 PM  

@54 HanSolo
That is the problem we face, with Muslims, Mexicans, Central Americans, Somalians, and Hindus.
When they come to the USA, they never leave their own country behind.....they bring it with them!

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