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Sunday, May 21, 2017

A complete abandonment of common sense

The Scandicucks in Minnesota have always been as clueless as they are nice, but they're taking the former to new heights with their hijab-wearing Mayor of Minneapolis and their inability to bring themselves to ban the mutilation of young girls by Somalis:
In Minnesota, the state’s Democratic leaders are perplexed by whether to advance a bill banning the barbaric, Third-World practice of female genital mutilation. After first passing the bill unanimously in the state House last week, lawmakers are now having “second thoughts” about whether to continue pushing the bill through to the governor’s desk, according to a report in the Star-Tribune.

The bill’s GOP sponsor said her colleagues in the Senate have gone wishy-washy on the bill due to pushback from certain segments of the refugee-resettlement industry, which is very powerful in Minnesota, getting paid millions in federal dollars annually to distribute Somali refugees throughout the state.

The bill would crack down on parents who submit their daughters to the grisly procedure in which doctors remove all or part of a girl’s clitoris. If passed, the bill would revoke parental custody and set a prison term of five to 20 years for any parent found guilty of having their daughter mutilated.
Or, perhaps they could all just be sent back. Then they would be free to engage in whatever barbaric practices they wish. At this rate, in another 10 years, mutilation will be obligatory in Dinkytown.

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Blogger The Kurgan May 21, 2017 7:08 PM  

I can't abide that kind of thing.
Helicopter rides would be merciful.
I'd be all out impaling them.

Blogger Artisanal Toad May 21, 2017 7:17 PM  

Everyone knows that interfering with a woman's orgasm is a criminal act....

Blogger Joseph Gore Jr. May 21, 2017 7:18 PM  

The cultural-marxist left has invested so much in their pathological hatred of Christianity and the white race that they are ready and willing to embrace anything - anything - and anyone else as allies. In this case, the mindless left, ostensibly the defenders of "women's rights" embraces islam and every practice of that violent, barbaric religion...including mutliating women's bodies.

Anonymous Mark Auld May 21, 2017 7:21 PM  

Follow the money,all the way back to D.C.,it's downright evil.

Anonymous Just another commenter May 21, 2017 7:22 PM  

A moral dilemma indeed: support the lefty ideal of multiculturalism and let the barbarism continue in violation of women's rights, or admit that multiculturalism is f'n stupid because it has some really obvious limits (and admitting them gets them all brain 'splody).

Sending them back solves both problems at once, no dilemma remains.

Anonymous Ages May 21, 2017 7:24 PM  

LOL. Women's rights only matter when WHITE MALES are the threat.

Let them mutilate their genitals, see if I care.

Anonymous Ages May 21, 2017 7:25 PM  

Durkas gonna durk.

To quote the God-Emperor: DRIVE THEM OUT!

Anonymous MendoScot May 21, 2017 7:26 PM  

I offer the following as a compromise solution:

If the mother wants her daughter clipped, the father gets clipped as well.

Minnesotan wymyn will love this.

Anonymous Reenay May 21, 2017 7:37 PM  

First, they came for the feminists...
and then there was Reconquista.

Blogger Lazarus May 21, 2017 7:39 PM  

The feminists must be up in arms.

/SARCASM!!!

Anonymous Eric the Red May 21, 2017 7:45 PM  

Leftist ideology doesn't have limits. There's nothing inherent to its precepts that says, "Stop here". Which is why it ultimately always gets to gulags.

Anonymous David-093 May 21, 2017 7:46 PM  

They're "perplexed" because Muslims are barbaric savages that behave inconveniently but they also hate White men so they have common cause.

Anonymous glosoli May 21, 2017 7:47 PM  

Philly pastor goes a'cucking:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20161114_Hispanic_immigrant_father_fears_deportation__seeks_sanctuary_in_Philadelphia_church.html

Last year he was running seminars on how to protest *tyranny* lawfully.

There is no end to their madness.

Blogger Lovekraft May 21, 2017 7:48 PM  

The system can only be described as perverted if orgs can legally circumvent common markets and legislative review due to deep pockets.

When government has become so bloated and in debt, many things are possible from a scurrilous angle.

Call it something like capitalismcancer.

Blogger tz May 21, 2017 7:51 PM  

There will be blood. Either way.
Maybe after PP is defunded they can start doing the procedure or those who repackage coat-hangers can create a FGM kit.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky May 21, 2017 7:53 PM  

"The refugee resettlement industry", Holy Cow. Nobody's even pretending anymore that we don't have systemic corruption all over, reaching down into the states.

Can't even muster the will to ban FGM. But light up a cigarette anywhere in downtown Minneapolis. It's very odd how they throw these social pressures around. And messed up beyond belief.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2017 7:58 PM  

Yeah, f**kin nuts.

Now, about male circumcision, which became standard operating procedure in the US, like so many of our eternal values, after WW2... (Abraham Wolbarst, Hiram Yellen and other Trumericans made sure of that.)

Blogger Ezekiel May 21, 2017 7:58 PM  

Reenay wrote:First, they came for the feminists...

and then there was Reconquista.


Give the sand niggers their due, letting them share gulags with the feminists is going to be absolutely hilarious.

Blogger L' Aristokrato May 21, 2017 8:00 PM  

Scandinavians are human pandas.

Anonymous Daniel H May 21, 2017 8:04 PM  

>> refugee-resettlement industry, which is very powerful in Minnesota,

Revealed more than he wanted to with that statement, because it is an industry with many SJWs making their quite lucrative livelihoods over this fake-refugee scam.

Anonymous Daniel H May 21, 2017 8:06 PM  

OT: The homosexual, pedophile pervert Samuel Delaney feted over at The New Republic.

https://newrepublic.com/article/142767/samuel-r-delanys-life-contradictions

Not surprised, since the magazine is now owned by an aggressive homosexual activist.

Blogger Tallen May 21, 2017 8:06 PM  

Is it still FGM if they don't identify as female?

Anonymous Rfvujm May 21, 2017 8:23 PM  

Is the state motto in Minnesota "female genital mutilation and tuberculosis are our strength"?

Blogger Robert What? May 21, 2017 8:24 PM  

This is nothing less than a systematic effort by the (((elites))) to dilute the White population of the United States. Many of us thought Trump was going to do something to stem the tide, but up til now he has chosen not to.

Blogger weka May 21, 2017 8:25 PM  

They are clearly not English, for they would know the solution of Napier.

What was good enough for the Hindus and Suttee is good enough for the Durkas.

Blogger YIH May 21, 2017 8:31 PM  

the refugee-resettlement industry
At least they're upfront about it.

Blogger cheddarman May 21, 2017 8:40 PM  

genital mutilation...they have not been propositional Americans long enough

Blogger Happy LP9 May 21, 2017 8:42 PM  

Send the evil monsters back, deport them all, Minn. cannot endure the horror, the untenable to the unthinkable.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 21, 2017 8:43 PM  

Apparently we've reached "Peak Social Absurdity" where politicians lack the spine to pee off anyone over anything.

Is this the "direct democracy" Scott Adams apparently thinks the continuing anti-Trump idiocy leads to?

Anonymous VFM 6184 May 21, 2017 8:59 PM  

"Now, about male circumcision, which became standard operating procedure in the US, like so many of our eternal values, after WW2."

Actually not. Male circumcision became standard practice by the 1920's. Not due to the Eskimos, but because of Victorian ideas of cleanliness and one physician's idea that the procedure could reduce a form of infantile paralysis.

Anonymous JAG May 21, 2017 9:02 PM  

This article is yet another example that the true nature of the leftist is contrarian.

Muslims and Marxists deserve each other. Just wish the rest of us could be left the hell alone from both of those factions.

Blogger exfarmkid May 21, 2017 9:06 PM  

Here is the StarTribune source article

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-bill-against-female-mutilation-raises-opposition/423070383/

This comment from an opponent boggles the mind:

Hodan Hassan, a mental health clinician, also argues for a less punitive approach.

“When I read the bill, my heart sank,” Hassan said. “It criminalizes parents who don’t understand the legality of their actions and don’t have the ability to advocate for themselves.”

Blogger bosscauser May 21, 2017 9:20 PM  

Trump lost Minnesota by 44 thousand votes...
McMuffin got 55 thousand and fake Libertarian got 113 thousand..

Landslide a coming!!!

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger Vikki Wilson May 21, 2017 9:30 PM  

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Blogger Vikki Wilson May 21, 2017 9:37 PM  

It is a Western value to destroy this evil wherever it is found - it is an assault on human dignity akin to slavery.

No husband, father of female victims should be allowed to immigrate to western democratic countries. Those criminals here should be vigorously prosecuted and deported.

The West should advance the proposition in the UN that genital mutilation become a ground in itself for refugee status (with no right of family reunion)

It would certainly clarify matters for the world to see the World Islamic Conference bloc and all the nations in the UN to make their position on this question explicit.

Blogger Stilicho May 21, 2017 9:39 PM  

The "refugee resettlement industry"?? I thought those folks were still going by the monikers "Catholic Charities" and "Evangelical Lutheran Church in America". Did they have to change the names to accommodate United Methodists and charismatics?

Anonymous David the Minion May 21, 2017 9:40 PM  

I have been told that this [FGM] is not a thing mandated by Islam, but is a cultural practice centered in northeast Africa.
Very well.
Islam has NO problem with enforcing prohibitions on pork and wine, but no apparent problem with this particular horror. This should be thrown in their faces at every opportunity.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 21, 2017 9:43 PM  

The Somalis need to be deported while there's still time. Otherwise, Somalian black culture will become a dominating "feature" of the Great Lakes region for centuries to come.

Blogger praetorian May 21, 2017 9:46 PM  

Is it still FGM if they don't identify as female?

Exactly. We need to wait until they are old enough to decide which gender they are and then, if they are boys, there is no problem: it's just circumcision, we do it all the time because (((reasons))) and nobody complains about it, so what's the big deal?

If they turn out to be girls, of course, it's monstrous and how dare they and we should immediately arrest all parties involved.

We'll just have to wait and see.

Blogger Stilicho May 21, 2017 9:50 PM  

Scandicucks? Wtf happened to the Vikings? Did all of them with any balls settle in Britain and Normandy? Or did simple prosperity geld them a la r/K theory? The batch we got are no better on average than the Swedes.

I clearly need to reread the parable of the good Samaritan again, since I missed the part where he resettled the victim in Samaria, put him on the dole, imported his extended family, and paid for doctors to mutilate his daughters.

Blogger David Power May 21, 2017 9:57 PM  

If keeping wages low means a few girls have to be mutilated, so be it.

Anonymous Anonymous May 21, 2017 10:30 PM  

So Rousseau beats Wollstonecraft. Liberals are destroying the Enlightenment by exposing its self contradictory nature; an opponent would hard pressed to do better job.

Blogger Mountain Man May 21, 2017 10:30 PM  

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Anonymous Gen. Kong May 21, 2017 10:33 PM  

Thus the Judeo-Christ smiles upon his churchian chillren. Spending for this completely genocidal program not even been slowed down by the Gay Old Pedos, much less stopped in its tracks. I'm holding my fire on Trump for now but I do note he's in the Magic Kingdom - one of ISIS's chief backers along with Israel and Fake Banana Empire - channeling Imam al-Duhbya's (Mahdi from West Texas) "War on Terrrrrr-r-r-r-r" fatwa from a his great misunderestimed Mesopotamian misadventure a decade ago. Hopefully it's just noise to pacify the inbred Musloids. Some of us remember at the time how the moron contingent would reply to the Mahdi's latest cuckery with the equivalent of a 9-D underwater chess claim.

Blogger Mountain Man May 21, 2017 10:35 PM  

@38

The fear is overblown.
These brown locusts have no ability to synthesize Vitamin D ( while living in an area that hovers near the 45th parallel), have an average IQ of 70 and lack any practical skills - period; let alone any for living in an environmentally harsh part of the world.
In Maine, the squatters living in LA were given free land , outside the city, for gardening and they were incapable of making anything of it. Claimed they needed water buffalo or something to make it work. These people are utterly retarded.
The coming financial Apocalypse will “darwinize” these invaders.

All that said, I agree they need to be deported immediately. That includes women and children !

Blogger Lazarus May 21, 2017 11:26 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:Some of us remember at the time how the moron contingent would reply to the Mahdi's latest cuckery with the equivalent of a 9-D underwater chess claim.

Hey Gen. Kong. Do you remember that guy that used to write for Gates of Vienna back in the day? He had unique descriptives like you have. He did his own series for awhile then I lost track of him.

Anonymous johnc May 21, 2017 11:41 PM  

@44 Thus the Judeo-Christ smiles upon his churchian chillren. Spending for this completely genocidal program not even been slowed down by the Gay Old Pedos

Hello fellow white person,

Us white peoples will need to further restrict our births to make room at the table for our brothers from the impoverished third world who have suffered so tremendously at the hands of white-induced inequity and barbarism. With limited resources available to our great nation, we will have to make sacrifices to achieve our goals of equality and justice for all the non-white races, as well as our most important and noble goal of supporting The Only Democracy in the Middle East(TM). Let me recommend that our white women take completely safe daily exogenous hormones to properly eliminate--err, regulate fertility and feminine instincts. And as for us white men, let our egotistical seed be destined for the humble Kleenex.

Us white people have had our run of the world. It is time to open our boundaries, move aside and let the other races take us to the stars.


(PS: Shekels can be sent to my PayPal address.)

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club May 22, 2017 12:31 AM  

@32 - Some quick questions for Hodan Hassan (even more American than his straight-from-the-Mayflower name):

Who "advocates" for the little girls here?

When did ignorance of the law become a substantive defense?

When are you going back?

Anonymous come on May 22, 2017 12:36 AM  

The fuck, dude?
There is actual news going on. Arms sales of $100 Billion. Why are you still picking up local news like a bitch blogger?

Blogger Benjamin Kraft May 22, 2017 12:41 AM  

"Refugee" "Resettlement" Industry. You'll note only one of those words didn't deserve quotation marks, and the other two translate more accurately to "Invader" and "Land Consolidation".

Blogger Robert Pinkerton May 22, 2017 1:39 AM  

PROPOSALS:
1. Enact a law providing that any person complicit in an act of "female 'circumcision'"so-called, shall be shot, his or her total estate confiscated for the benefit of the victim.
2. If investigation of the homicide of an adolescent or young-adult female of immigrant ethnicity, should reveal that this was an "'honor' killing" so-called, every person complicit in that act should be indicted for capital murder and conspiracy to commit capital murder, with a hate-crime enhancement heavy enough to require a mandatory no-recourse death sentence.
3. These laws should be made known to every African or Near-Eastern immigrant of all ages and both sexes. If they should lead some of them to self-deport on th grounds that one cannot lead a proper Muslim life in this country, so much the better.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 22, 2017 2:55 AM  

As much as I abhor this vile practice, we're not going to get back to eliminating it from our conquered territories unless we first re-conquer our own

Vox is absolutely right; Re-Conquista 2.0 is the first priority.

This kind of quisling insanity merely emphasizes that reality.

Anonymous Bz May 22, 2017 4:19 AM  

To be honest, once I realized Minnesota was previously run by Jews, what followed seemed kind of inevitable.

The actions of the Judeo-Christian hegira helpers are very disappointing too, but we should realize their relation to religious organizations is again merely historical. The newcomers live in their houses and spend their patrimony. A Sign O' The Times, if you will.

Anonymous name here May 22, 2017 4:22 AM  

"Actually not. Male circumcision became standard practice by the 1920's. Not due to the Eskimos, but because of Victorian ideas of cleanliness"

Specifically, circumcision was introduced (for both sexes) as a punishment and deterrent to masturbation. it only caught on for males (probably thanks to Eskimos)

sorry to post Eskimopedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_male_circumcision#Masturbation_concerns


I don't really care if Somali women (it's always the women pushing it) want to cut their daughter's clitorises off. That kind of sickness can't be cured; no use trying. They wouldn't even bear thinking about if we didn't have leftist AIDS undermining our cultural immune system.


Anonymous Bz May 22, 2017 4:27 AM  

The Delany article doesn't mention his enthusiasm for NAMBLA for some reason, but it is somewhat amusing to see that in between the anonymous restroom encounters he is much occupied with pondering his own self-described genius. He also, like so many of his brethren, suffers from the heartbreak of dyslexia (spelling while white).

Anonymous badhairday May 22, 2017 6:30 AM  

Could I take a few moments to suggest that this isn't really about cutting lady bits off.

Could it be that the refugee industry is trying to control the legislature is the main point? If Minnesota is being run for the benefit of Somalis, is it really American?

Blogger Chris Mallory May 22, 2017 8:22 AM  

VFM 6184 wrote:Actually not. Male circumcision became standard practice by the 1920's. Not due to the Eskimos, but because of Victorian ideas

But if you speak against Male Genital Mutilation, the usual suspects don't call you an "Anti Victorian".

Blogger Wanda Sherratt May 22, 2017 8:45 AM  

@44 - "Some of us remember at the time how the moron contingent would reply to the Mahdi's latest cuckery with the equivalent of a 9-D underwater chess claim."

They forever destroyed the term "rope-a-dope" because they were constantly using it to describe W's cuckian pratfalls. Also, "The man's a poker player," which was supposed to be so reassuring.

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner May 22, 2017 9:06 AM  

MN liberals new motto to get votes OFF WITH THEIR CLITS!!!

support the lefty ideal of multiculturalism and let the barbarism continue in violation of women's rights, or admit that multiculturalism is f'n stupid

There is no double down option.

Philly pastor goes a'cucking:

Fake news will never tell you if their poster boys have records, the best driving while black poster boy the ACLU could find was on probation for a gang shooting.

I have been told that this [FGM] is not a thing mandated by Islam,

I have been told that a man who beats his wife is not a moslem that's a fact. It's a religion of 90IQ imams explaining the world to sub 80IQ followers.

These brown locusts have no ability to synthesize Vitamin D ( while living in an area that hovers near the 45th parallel), have an average IQ of 70 and lack any practical skills

That just means the govt throws more healthcare $$ at them.

As much as I abhor this vile practice, we're not going to get back to eliminating it from our conquered territories unless we first re-conquer our own

I say it should be legal to hack off any body part of moslems. I would like to see them elevated over my people just like Vlad Tepes did.

Blogger Jerry27 May 22, 2017 10:01 AM  

This kind of quisling insanity

Am I thinking of the right Quisling?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDHEbMCyP2M

thanks,
Jerry

Blogger praetorian May 22, 2017 10:35 AM  

Actually not. Male circumcision became standard practice by the 1920's. Not due to the Eskimos, but because of Victorian ideas of cleanliness and one physician's idea that the procedure could reduce a form of infantile paralysis.

Yeah, nah.

Victorianism was dead as a doornail when circumcision got going in the US. As always, there were judaized and ingenuous goys to go along with the whole thing, but understating the jewish role in male circumcision in the US is ahistorical.

It's monstrous.

Anonymous The OASF May 22, 2017 11:01 AM  

"pushback from certain segments of the refugee-resettlement industry, which is very powerful in Minnesota, getting paid millions in federal dollars annually to distribute Somali refugees throughout the state."

This part of the message can not be understated. My friend, who is in real estate and geospatial services, was recently asked to take up a project searching for ideal sites for refugee relocation camps. I pointed out the various ways in which this violates the USC by enabling foreign enemies. He responded that the politicians don't care because those are dead letter laws and all their hands are out for the federal money.

I also pointed out that the dead letter laws will come back to life if someone needs blamed when the local schools and churches start blowing up... and the blame won't be falling on the politicians. Hint. Hint.

Blogger rcocean May 22, 2017 11:44 AM  

Its amazing that most Scandis have been in the USA for over 117 years, but they still think and vote like Swedes/danes/etc. They even move left on the same issues their cousins do in Europe. Americanization never took hold.

Blogger rcocean May 22, 2017 11:45 AM  

Of course, Minnesota is a clown state. What other state would have elected a 2nd rate SNL comic from New York - or a loudmouthed, moronic Wrestler?

Blogger Sheila4g May 22, 2017 12:07 PM  

@35 Vikki Wilson: "The West should advance the proposition in the UN that genital mutilation become a ground in itself for refugee status (with no right of family reunion)."

@51 Robert Pinkerton: "1. Enact a law providing that any person complicit in an act of "female 'circumcision'"so-called, shall be shot, his or her total estate confiscated for the benefit of the victim."

While I'd be the last to defend FGM, some here seem to have allowed their distaste for the procedure to morph into White Knighting for those "poor" girls. Who, it must be specified, are almost always accompanied to the procedure by their mothers, who help hold them down, while the deed is done.

This is generally a north African tribal practice, adopted and adapted by Mohammedans {so far as I understand, only the most minimal of "cuts" is done in Indonesia, but I'm far from an expert and open to correction here}. Almost 90% of Egyptian women have this done - I remember reading something years ago by Anwar Sadat's wife about her own memories of having it done, and her {failed} efforts to limit its practice. The most extreme forms {including infibulation} are done by the Negroes.

And although it's supposed to make them less sexual, it doesn't seem to have hindered that "great" Western feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who managed to get herself pregnant by Niall Ferguson, have him abandon his White wife and three legitimate children, and then marry her. So her lack of a clitoris doesn't seem to have impeded her sexuality at all.

I don't feel particularly sorry for the female progeny of a barbaric and alien race. Send them back to their homelands to continue their cultural and/or religious practices to their hearts' desire. Not my people, not my problem. And no, the "girls" should NOT get to stay here and further pollute our genetic pool. They need to go home with their families, where they can continue the practice on their own daughters without the benefit of Western anesthesia and antibiotics.

As far as male circumcision, how much was due to early 20th century efforts to hinder masturbation, and how much due to post WWII Jewish doctors? Praetorian's graph starts in the 1930s and already shows almost 40% of boys having it done. I've already noted in past discussions of that issue that I really didn't have strong feelings one way or the other when my sons were born, but my Irish/Italian husband insisted the boys be done. He's still adamant about it, and I'm less on the fence and more opposed, but it's too early to say what any future grandsons may face.

Blogger praetorian May 22, 2017 12:37 PM  

As far as male circumcision, how much was due to early 20th century efforts to hinder masturbation, and how much due to post WWII Jewish doctors?

I'm inferring a lot since I don't believe an honest history of circumcision in the US is available. I know the "victorian masturbation" meme is out there, but it doesn't make sense: it picked up much later, after the roaring 20's and sullen 30's. More plausible is the medicalization of child birth which occurred during the wars, but the graph shows that hospital circumcision rates trailed the general rate...

Since, again, I don't think an honest history on this topic can exist (imagine trying to publish a history that looks into this that is in any way critical of jews) I end up inferring from the following facts:

-Male circumcision is a jewish practice
-Jewish doctors are common enough to be a trope (they were putting quotas on jews in the 40s it was so bad)
-Abraham Wolbarst was an early, vocal proponent of universal circumcision
-Hiram Yellen invented the gomco clamp in 1935 (don't google it if you are faint of heart)
-Today, criticizing the practice marks you as anti-semitic (i.e. someone that jews don't like)
-The goy typically given credit for introducing the practice in the US, Lewis Sayre, died in 1900, well before the practice took off

I know that puritans mimicked the practice, as they were judaized. I don't think the victorian morality thesis holds up, and I think it could be misdirection trying to put the blame for the practice back on the sexual hangups of traditional white culture.

I'm happy to look at any literature other people recommend on the topic. I'm cut and so are my boys (I assumed it was for valid medical reasons... Stupid goy.) but I'm hoping my grandsons are not.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 22, 2017 3:21 PM  

rcocean wrote:What other state would have elected a 2nd rate SNL comic from New York

The first time Franken was elected, it was a clear case of fraud. Coleman won on election day, but after numerous recounts they ended up giving the election to Franken. Every time they released a total with Coleman in the lead, the next morning another box of ballots was found that had to be counted. Final appeals weren't done until June of 2009. A study by a conservative group found 1300 suspected illegal votes.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 22, 2017 3:26 PM  

praetorian wrote:-Male circumcision is a jewish practice

Not just Jewish. It is a Middle Eastern/Muslim and African practice.

I have never heard of Orientals or Vox's red savage kin doing it. Whites seem to have the practice forced upon them by the Juden.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 22, 2017 3:59 PM  


This is generally a north African tribal practice, adopted and adapted by Mohammedans {so far as I understand, only the most minimal of "cuts" is done in Indonesia, but I'm far from an expert and open to correction here}.


The Kurds in Mesopatamia and the Pakistanis also do it.


Almost 90% of Egyptian women have this done

The other 10% are Coptic Christians.

As far as male circumcision, how much was due to early 20th century efforts to hinder masturbation, and how much due to post WWII Jewish doctors?

It dates to the 19th century when there was an absolute terror of masturbation in the upper classes of America.

None of this matters. Somalis all have to go back.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 22, 2017 4:06 PM  

@pratorian

https://infogalactic.com/info/Circumcision

Look under "history" for "modern times".

Blogger bobby May 22, 2017 5:11 PM  

64. rcocean May 22, 2017 11:45 AM

"Of course, Minnesota is a clown state. What other state would have elected . . . a loudmouthed, moronic Wrestler?"

Not a Jesse fan, but just to be fair . . .

Before running for governor, Venture had been mayor of Brooklyn Park (a large inner suburb of Minneapolis) and had become known as a very good administrator in his own right, pursuing and attaining several conservative goals during his term.

He ran for gov as a centrist, really - the Dem opponent was a left-wing clown who happened to be Hubert Humphrey's kid, while his Rep opponent was the former mayor of St. Paul who, while quite a good conservative, had a strong Brooklyn accent and didn't come off as much of a homeboy. Venture ran on a "no politics-as-usual" position, which was what Minnesotans seemed to have wanted.

It was only after he had been in office for a bit that he self-destructed. He did so when the MN press refused to accept him as a proper governor and hounded him incessantly for the exact same type of things we see Trump hounded for today.

Ventura's demise was really a preview for the press's attempts at assassinating Trump today.

Blogger praetorian May 22, 2017 6:20 PM  

@70

Not much meat there, other than some very broad claims about the 1800's and the mention of Lewis Sayre (again, he died in 1900, circumcision didn't take off in the US until the 1930's). It says "By the turn of the century, in both America and Great Britain, infant circumcision was nearly universally recommended"

Well, OK. Then how come the circumcision rate in the graph I linked above in 1930 was 30%, and then skyrocketed to 85% by 1950? Was *that* when victorian panicking around masturbation finally came to dominate the medical profession? Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Anyway, I've derailed enough.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 22, 2017 6:56 PM  

Praetorian:
I don't know the source for your graph, I could look at it again, but frankly this isn't important enough for me to really do research. I suspect that after WWII more babies were born in hospitals than before, but don't really know for sure.

I do know that the late 19th century saw a huge moral panic over masturbation, and there were all manner of bizarre "cures" for it, including electrical devices intended to shock the genitals. Blaming all circumcision in the US on Jews seems over the top.

This search
https://www.bing.com/search?q=kellogg+circumcision+quote&pc=MOZI&form=MOZ
SPG

produced this site and others.
http://www.circumstitions.com/Kellogg.html

Kellogg was a kook, but influential kook and not a Jew.
https://infogalactic.com/info/John_Harvey_Kellogg

Kellogg worked on the rehabilitation of masturbators, often employing extreme measures, even mutilation, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying phenol to a young woman's clitoris.

He also recommended, to prevent children from this "solitary vice", bandaging or tying their hands, covering their genitals with patented cages and electrical shock.[8]

Years ago I found some little books on "becoming a man" in a family bookcase. They were from the 1920's, there was a different book for each age starting at about 8, and every single one of them had scary stuff about masturbation. The one for teenagers flatly claimed excessive masturbation would lead to insanity. The relative that those books had belonged to was born before 1914 and he was circumcised.

Cutting foreskins off of boys has been going on for well over 100 years, not just since 1950. It needs to stop.

Genital mutilation of girls and boys needs to be illegal.
Minnesota Somalis need to go back. All of them.

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