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Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Darkstream: St. Breivik and Manchester

In tonight's Darkstream, I discussed how both Anders Breivik and Salman Abedi are obvious and predictable consequences of multiculturalism.

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Blogger Lazarus May 23, 2017 7:48 PM  

Just in case anyone has trouble with Periscope viewing, Vox's Darkstreams show up eventually here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqt0TkLwNyXy_Eiofb3r3A

clik on a recent one and youtube will supply the current one on the sidebar

Blogger Peter Jackson May 23, 2017 8:01 PM  

I don't know how to leave a comment concerning the previous Darkstream, so I'll leave it here:

I don't believe that you need to accept Christ as your personal savior to recognize that it's a bad idea to let 10s of thousands of backwards, third-world fucks into your country.

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 8:05 PM  

You certainly don't. But Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them.

Blogger modsquad May 23, 2017 8:16 PM  

@3
"Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them."

Outside of times of war, famine or plague, the last few decades is the first time Europe has shown negative population growth. Their degree or lack of Christianity right now has nothing to do with present circumstances. This is entirely driven by privately owned central banks.

The more money you create and lend, the greater your profits. A contracting population needs less money, not more. Bringing in fast breeding outsiders is just what the doctor ordered to maintain the constantly required "economic growth" that money makers need to remain in control.

Anonymous Faceless May 23, 2017 8:20 PM  

@modsquad

I am intrigued by your answer posted as a rebuttal to VD. When do you date Europe having stopped being Christian? I guess I would need to know how your number of decades differs from his.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable May 23, 2017 8:28 PM  

Outside of times of war, famine or plague, the last few decades is the first time Europe has shown negative population growth.

Abortion. Abortion. Abortion. End of story.

Blogger Ransom Smith May 23, 2017 8:30 PM  

Odd how the European​ Nations that are the most anti Christian are being invaded.

While the more pro Christian aren't.

Funny how that works.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 23, 2017 8:34 PM  

@modsquad

I am guessing you aren't familiar with root cause analysis. Why is the population in Europe contracting?

Blogger bw May 23, 2017 8:38 PM  

BBC Anchor Admits "Europe Has To Get Used To Bombings"
"Europe is getting used to attacks like this...we have to because we are never going to be able to totally wipe this out..."
UK Deploys Army As Terror Threat Raised To Critical, May Warns "More Attacks Imminent"


What in the name of Frankfurt School and Gramsci is wrong with fucking white people?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 23, 2017 8:47 PM  

BBC Anchor Admits "Europe Has To Get Used To Bombings"
"Europe is getting used to attacks like this...we have to because we are never going to be able to totally wipe this out..."
UK Deploys Army As Terror Threat Raised To Critical, May Warns "More Attacks Imminent"


Their masters running the British government tell them what to say. They want the British people to believe that this is a fact of life now and to accept it. Sadly, it appears they are convincing enough people for now.

I am hoping another Tommy Robinson, perhaps one that has wider appeal among the middle and working classes rises. I have tremendous respect for Tommy but his background makes it difficult for him to appeal to non-blue collar workers in Britain.

Blogger Peter Jackson May 23, 2017 9:04 PM  

You certainly don't. But Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them.


How many Muslim refugees has Japan admitted? Is Japan a Christian nation?

Blogger modsquad May 23, 2017 9:09 PM  

Faceless wrote:@modsquad

I am intrigued by your answer posted as a rebuttal to VD. When do you date Europe having stopped being Christian? I guess I would need to know how your number of decades differs from his.


I said Christianity wasn't the issue. I never said Europe stopped being Christian. Their degree, or lack, of Christianity isn't the problem.

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basementhomebrewer wrote:@modsquad

I am guessing you aren't familiar with root cause analysis. Why is the population in Europe contracting?


Legalized abortion, feminism, toaster ovens... who cares. The issue isn't religion or social engineering, the question is why are the elite so hell bent on importing what looks like a time bomb for their very own societies? This is an economic problem, not religious.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 23, 2017 9:17 PM  

modsquad wrote:


Legalized abortion, feminism, toaster ovens... who cares. The issue isn't religion or social engineering, the question is why are the elite so hell bent on importing what looks like a time bomb for their very own societies? This is an economic problem, not religious.


You are purposely being dense because you don't want to accept the truth. atheism was a tool used to weaken Western culture. If Christianity hadn't been so weakened with atheism all the consequences that have followed would not have occurred.

Your flippant answer of abortion, feminism etc. is correct on the first two and neither would have happened with a strong Christian Europe. Your philosophy inevitably leads to cultural nihilism which then makes you susceptible to being displaced by any group with an actual ethos.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable May 23, 2017 9:19 PM  

Legalized abortion, feminism, toaster ovens... who cares. The issue isn't religion or social engineering, the question is why are the elite so hell bent on importing what looks like a time bomb for their very own societies? This is an economic problem, not religious.

Duh. When you have aborted a couple of generations, you need somebody to step up to pay the taxes that will cover all those lovely pensions you've guaranteed to the current (and presently retiring) generation. That was the original idea. They haven't quite figured out that unemployables don't pay a lot of taxes yet, but it's coming ...

Blogger Lovekraft May 23, 2017 9:22 PM  

Since the focus on root cause shifted to economics:

my ideal society leans more on less government, absolute impartiality of judiciary, and a social cohesion.
To me, that would mean regulate media, not to push one view but more to prevent poisonous views from entering. Also, the education system is to be aimed primarily on economics, from the young ages on up - not to push one view of capitalism, but again to block entry by anti-capitalistic views (there's a debate topic in itself).
You get the picture: state action generally laissez-faire and bringing the population up in an ethical capitalist system.

Lots to fill in and I'm not an economist, but unless the world goes tits up, I think this is how to neutralize the socialists/globalists.

Of course, getting the nationalism/domestic needs front and center is what this battle is about, no?

Blogger Lovekraft May 23, 2017 9:29 PM  

You can sense it already.

The boomers retiring, sucking up the dwindling public pensions or eating up inheritance. The young looking at a bleak housing market/education costs etc.

Then again, people may just become more isolated and live in a shell if the costs become too high. That concerns me a lot.

We have to give people breathing room.

Blogger ZhukovG May 23, 2017 9:38 PM  

@Peter Jackson: Your reply about Japan, proves Vox's point. If you don't realize how; you may be out of your depth.

Blogger Elder Son May 23, 2017 9:44 PM  

Multicultural House Arrest

https://youtu.be/mzAQwATXZ4o - Stefan Molyneux

http://bit.ly/2qeifDU

Blogger D. May 23, 2017 9:56 PM  

Volume Darkstream:

I solved this problem by buying a 1980's Marantz sr225 and a 3.5 mm to rca jacks connected to my computer. VD you be loud and clear.

Blogger modsquad May 23, 2017 10:09 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:
You are purposely being dense because you don't want to accept the truth. atheism was a tool used to weaken Western culture. If Christianity hadn't been so weakened with atheism all the consequences that have followed would not have occurred.

Your flippant answer of abortion, feminism etc. is correct on the first two and neither would have happened with a strong Christian Europe. Your philosophy inevitably leads to cultural nihilism which then makes you susceptible to being displaced by any group with an actual ethos.



Ah, we don't agree therefore I'm purposely being dense. Nice talking to you.

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5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:Duh. When you have aborted a couple of generations, you need somebody to step up to pay the taxes that will cover all those lovely pensions you've guaranteed to the current (and presently retiring) generation. That was the original idea. They haven't quite figured out that unemployables don't pay a lot of taxes yet, but it's coming ...

Around 1950 the U.S. population was 150 million. There were no worries then about population totals, but now that it's over 300 million it's cause for concern regarding tax revenue?

Pre 1913 and the Federal Reserve Act, there were no income taxes, no corporate taxes, and no sales taxes. Yet the U.S. had roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, police, firemen, an army and a navy. All done with no taxes. On top of that, almost no inflation on commonly available items. A five cent cigar in 1840 cost five cents in 1890.

Before 1913, U.S. Congress would issue currency and bonds themselves and use these to pay for civil services. If they needed money to build a bridge, they created the money and paid the engineers and laborers to build a bridge. There was no taxation necessary to pay themselves back. After 1913, the responsibility for creating currency was turned over to the Federal Reserve Bank, a privately owned central bank. The consortium owners could now create U.S. money and lend it to the Federal Government. The government then introduced income and corporate taxation to collect this money back and pay off their loans with the Federal Reserve.

From the FED's perspective, the more the government borrows, then the more it taxes to recover the debts owed back to the FED. And the richer the owners of the FED become. This is a straight up ponzi scheme, and what the FED does NOT DO is create the interest on the original loans. It's impossible for the government to ever get out from under their national debt, no matter how much they tax the citizenry.

This is why the FED and government need constant expansion for the system not to collapse. And if you're not having five or six kids per marriage like the good old days, then by god they'll bring in people who will. Europe has the same private central banking system, 95% of the planet does. If one part of the world doesn't live up to their part (expansion breeding), then populations will be shifted to prop up that part of the world. If the central bankers didn't do this, it will be like sawing off the legs of table until the table eventually collapsed. Religion is a distraction so you don't realize someone else is looting half your life's earnings enabling them to cruise the Mediterranean in a 300' yacht and fly up to the Vineyard for a weekend of 'spirit cooking.'

It's really hard to watch the world sharpen their swords (again) get all lathered up to go to war (again), and have no idea who their enemy really is (again). This shit has been going on for thousands of years. Speaking of Christianity, why do you think Christ took a bullwhip to the bankers in the temple? It wasn't because they were in the temple, it's because they were the bankers.

Anonymous Avalanche May 23, 2017 10:18 PM  

How smart was Brevik to REALIZE that these were the larval stage of future globalist leaders? Wow!

Great, great Dark Stream Vox. (As they all are!) I learn so much, both history (and a different perspective on history!) and a solid view to the present and probably future. Thanks!

Blogger Phillip George May 23, 2017 10:21 PM  

cut to the chase.
I don't want to live in a Caliphate nor next to one. Sharia and democracy don't mix.
Britain is still technically a constitutional monarchy upholding the protestant reformed religion.
Jesus Christ is YHVH God. Muhammad is wrong not right. Cultures are not relative; the truth is not relative.
Mark Steyn is, as usual, brilliant in commentary and altogether non prescriptive.
Separation of Church and State is a myth still killing you.
And as Mark points out you are being picked off like Eloi. Harvested like pigs.

Anonymous Marco May 23, 2017 10:23 PM  

Vox, you say that the US is heading for a 'Balkanization' of sorts in 2033.

What can someone do about being sure they don't lose their money in a bank? Also I was thinking about if people should move out of ethnically 'enriched' states to White European ones.

Blogger SirHamster May 23, 2017 10:48 PM  

Peter Jackson wrote:You certainly don't. But Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them.


How many Muslim refugees has Japan admitted? Is Japan a Christian nation?


That's not an explanation.

What does an island nation several oceans away from the center of Islam tell you about the relation of Christianity and resistance to Islam?

Right now, you have no alternative explanation, only blind skepticism.

Blogger Jamie-R May 23, 2017 10:55 PM  

When I get to sit down & not be bothered these are great. But I get annoyed sometimes when you change your train of thought due to a commenter that asked something. It's like "no Vox go back to what you were gonna say!"

Blogger Lazarus May 23, 2017 11:03 PM  

Jamie-R wrote:When I get to sit down & not be bothered these are great. But I get annoyed sometimes when you change your train of thought due to a commenter that asked something. It's like "no Vox go back to what you were gonna say!"

Forget it Jaimie-R, its Periscope.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 23, 2017 11:08 PM  

I did not know Japan was European.

I do know that they relied on a Divine Wind to keep invading fanatics out.

Anonymous Jason Hanson May 23, 2017 11:16 PM  

"How smart was Brevik to REALIZE that these were the larval stage of future globalist leaders? Wow!

Great, great Dark Stream Vox. (As they all are!) I learn so much, both history (and a different perspective on history!) and a solid view to the present and probably future. Thanks!"

Did you learn how to kill young boys and girls for crimes they'e not yet committed?

Good God this place is dirty.

Blogger Nick S May 23, 2017 11:17 PM  

They're gonna need more false flags and fake news.

Anonymous Sharrukin May 23, 2017 11:30 PM  

28. Jason Hanson

Did you learn how to kill young boys and girls for crimes they'e not yet committed?

We never forgot how to slaughter innocents.

Hamburg, Dresden, Berlin, the firebombing of Tokyo, turning children into radioactive dust at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The only difference is that one is a state actor and the other is not.

Blogger Jack Ward May 23, 2017 11:44 PM  

@14
The Fair Tax. Consumption tax may be an answer, of sorts. I would prefer them all to be sent packing. If not possible, then make them pay SOMETHING. Without a lot off screaming yelling on our part, even a fair tax system would fall short if the libs successfully offer up exemptions to all the illegals and their offspring.

Blogger Frank Brady May 23, 2017 11:47 PM  

The disease of materialism took hold in the West because Christianity's core principles were abandoned by "progressive" Christian leaders. The bankers and "progressives" worked hand-in-hand to subvert Christian principles and foster that disease.

Blogger tz May 24, 2017 12:22 AM  

@6 Add Contraception, STDs that create sterility, and gay or other "never reproduce lifestyles". Especially contraception - put off having kids until the woman is all but sterile.

@10 Europe will get used to bombings and other terrorist acts, but only for now it is the Muslims attacking. Mosques will burn, more Breivik delete the elite, and no-go zones might end up unpeopled. It works both ways.

(general) What the kek? Even Lee Kwan Yu noted one of his big social engineering mistakes was to educate (degrees) women who don't want to marry, so Singapore has or had a similar problem. Culture needs to celebrate motherhood - put that on a pedestal, not college sluttyness then the sterile rat-race for women. Some women can break through the illusion from hell, but even then it isn't easy now.

Fix the women, and the virtuous and wise hands that rock the cradle will rule the world. Now it is minimum wage day care workers.

@28 Did you learn how to kill young boys and girls for crimes they'e not yet committed? Ask Kermit Gosnell, or earlier George Tiller, who was assassinated after murdering 20,000 babies, many in late term, partial birth abortions. Compare the death toll. If you are neutral on Tiller than Breivik is a saint by comparison.

As I posted earlier:

Vigil, vigil, vigil, vigilante, vendetta, valhalla.

Someone is going to throw gasoline on those candles.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 24, 2017 12:29 AM  

@22 Philip George

Separation of Church and State is a myth still killing you.


England has a state church called The Church Of England, and a monarch. Sweden has a monarch and a state church. How's that working out? Any problems in either country with alien religions or colonizers? Or is that mighty monarch plus state church doing what you say it will do?

You're like a cargo cultist.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 24, 2017 12:34 AM  

@29

Even the ACLU noticed Obama's massive domestic spying? Stopped clock is right for once. For the record, the unmasking and other spying on Trump, Paul, the Supremes etc. is far, far beyond anything Nixon did or even attempted. It's all about "who does what to whom", as always.

Oh, and one more thing for the trolls:

His name was Seth Rich

Blogger tz May 24, 2017 12:54 AM  

Milo should add or replace a persona - Ivana Wall is innovative, but I prefer Vigil Auntie. It would work into the "we shoot back".
Orlando - Gays
Manchester - Women

What next, blacks or latinos massacred?

This is like a scifi dystopia. Soylent green isn't made from people, but instead of crackers are merely long pork rinds.

Blogger Baldwin IV May 24, 2017 12:54 AM  

By St. Novislav Đajić, that was a good darkstream!

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 24, 2017 12:56 AM  

"His name was Seth Rich"

In death a Panda has a name.

His name was Seth Rich.

Blogger AdognamedOp May 24, 2017 1:15 AM  

OT: OMG...John McCain was just on Seth Myers late night show talking about pizzagate being fake news and claiming some guy "shot up the place" after hearing about the pizzeria.

Blogger Mark Robertson May 24, 2017 1:19 AM  

I was working today filling one of those toy machines with the metal claw where you grab the prize. A waitress wanted to buy one of the toys off me. I was going to give the toy to her anyway but something came to me. I asked her name then grabbed her shoulder. I said " we are all in this together, MAGA pass it on" We should get a meme going for white solidarity or Trumpmism were we let each other know we are sticking together & we have each other backs. Make it a point to do everyday your looking out for our kind

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 24, 2017 1:21 AM  

@41
McCain got his memo pretty late, he's supposed to be saying "old fake news" and "muh RUSHNS!" now, maybe he's just doing his part to push you-know-what off of the attention span.

His name was Seth Rich.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis May 24, 2017 1:52 AM  

Here's the thing. It is all about the Lowerarchy. Yeah Islam is a problem -- but Islam is a created religion by the Lowerarchy. It is not a serious problem until Christianity is rejected. Which is the current situation of Europe. It is like they rejected antibiotics and then wonder why people get sick and die.

The fundamental problem is people, including those on the alt-right, reject the concept that the Lowerarchy actually exists. Like doctors thinking washing hands is stupid and crazy, and patients die, and the doctors claim it is "miasmas".

"My Dear Wormwood,

I wonder you should ask me whether it is essential to keep the patient in ignorance of your own existence. That question, at least for the present phase of the struggle, has been answered for us by the High Command. Our policy, for the moment, is to conceal ourselves. Of course this has not always been so. We are really faced with a cruel dilemma. When the humans disbelieve in our existence we lose all the pleasing results of direct terrorism and we make no magicians. On the other hand, when they believe in us, we cannot make them materialists and sceptics...If any faint suspicion of your existence begins to arise in his mind, suggest to him a picture of something in red tights, and persuade him that since he cannot believe in that (it is an old textbook method of confusing them) he therefore cannot believe in you."

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Blogger yoghi.llama May 24, 2017 1:54 AM  

You certainly don't. But Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them.

Post-Christianity didn't begin decades ago with Gramsci, Lukács et al., it began much earlier with Voltaire, Hume, Schopenhauer, etc.

The Romans were Christians and they were dumb enough to let in the Goths. Cromwell was a Christian and he was dumb enough to resettle the Jews in England.

South African Whites are still strongly Christian and they were dumb enough to get suckered in to the lies of "The Rainbow Nation" and "with all our new technology and economics, race is a thing of the past".

Australia is not noticeably strongly Christian but they have done far more to resist the "refugee" onslaught than Canada, USA, Western Europe.

Loss of Christianity causes in some but not all cases a decrease in reasonableness, increase in nihilism, loss of national pride … yes it is a factor with a role to play but it is not a necessary or sufficient cause.

Blogger S. Thermite May 24, 2017 2:24 AM  

Say it with me- I support the abortion of elitist globalist refugee programs due to instances of rape and the necessity of saving the lives of the motherlands.

Also, any Fetal Holocaust Denier who argues for the national legality of pregnant women exiling their unborn family members despite a 0% chance their survival...has absolutely no authority to demand that any nation take-in or keep outsiders who were already living elsewhere. If those who claim to love Reason don't like that logic, then shove it down their throats and let them choke to death on it.

Blogger AdognamedOp May 24, 2017 2:24 AM  

The only positive to having Windows 10 and the god awful ms Edge, where Wapo and Rueters propaganda greets you at every daily start up, is going to the comments at Wapo and simply writing "Seth Rich", regardless of the context.

Blogger Scott Birch May 24, 2017 2:45 AM  

Class divisions in the UK aren't as strong as income divisions in the US. People from all walks of life are listening to Tommy. They're just not making it obvious yet.

Anonymous Opus May 24, 2017 2:56 AM  

I wonder whether it has slipped VD's mind but there is also Thomas Nair's assassination of Ms Cox.

Perhaps I can leave this here: yesterday on Fb my friend entirely predictably posted about Manchester. I was less than impressed and suggested he was both an appeaser and a dhimmi. His minions went into ad hominem mode. I removed the offending post and left a new one where I suggested his minions were in the grip of political correctness and that he was suffering from internalised Stockholm Syndrome. I now have one less Fb friend, yet he was driveling on about Tolerance towards Islam. Clearly he is both terrified and in denial.

Blogger Archella May 24, 2017 3:17 AM  

The Rebirth of a Nation. I'm starting to see massive solidarity, though I live in Red State America, I think it's happening even in blue states. On the county and even more so, on the precinct level, this country is blood red. I pray for Vox, and all of the VFM and all of the righteous, ever since he asked us to on a periscope. The world belongs to those, who fight for it.

Blogger John Williams May 24, 2017 4:19 AM  

you need somebody to step up to pay the taxes that will cover all those lovely pensions
The globalists obviously didn't think 80 IQ people's, illiterate in their native toungue, would be able to be productive wage earners (and tax payers) in a modern technical society. Please try again. Why were these incompatible people imported into western civilized societies when they were known to be incapable of functioning or fitting with in?

Anonymous Bluey May 24, 2017 4:26 AM  

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-62909-post-1577283.html#pid1577283

#collaborator

Think it's a great idea to target all the SJW/bleeding heart types

Anonymous Magus May 24, 2017 4:46 AM  

Biggest takeaway for me was the facts about who his victims were. I had no idea. Back when it happened it was on my radar as "awful murdering of children by white nationalist" and that was it. I didn't give the news much attention, but those were the key takeaways.

Your elucidation of the facts and framing of the context changes things. I don't think he's heroic, personally, but I see your point about his historical significance in the future. People we think are too extreme and violent at the time can turn out to be the people who took the desperate steps necessary to help save our children in the future.

Blogger FrankNorman May 24, 2017 7:02 AM  

Sometimes the explanation is simple, but so stupid we would not see it.
The Secular Left know perfectly well that their new pets are incapable of becoming productive citizens.
They pretend not so know this, simply so that when you try to explain it to them, they can point at you and go "Racist! Racist! Racist!"

It's what they live for.

Blogger Nick S May 24, 2017 7:44 AM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Even the ACLU noticed Obama's massive domestic spying? Stopped clock is right for once. For the record, the unmasking and other spying on Trump, Paul, the Supremes etc. is far, far beyond anything Nixon did or even attempted. It's all about "who does what to whom", as always.

I know! Right? (I hate when people say that). By rights, this breaking news should blow up into one of the biggest stories of this century, but in this era of excessive weirdness all around, I doubt it will even make a splash. People's priorities are so screwed up today.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 24, 2017 8:10 AM  

But Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

I've consumed some of Jordan Peterson's youtubes dealing with philosophy & I find his insights valuable. He posits that the post-Christian West has no guiding ethos, and all the substitutes (Leftism writ large) are products of people cast loose from any well-moored, coherent meaning of life.

He often claims that numerous 19th century scholars saw all this coming.

Without the coherence of widely observed faith in a life-affirming meta-reality, the nihilism of things like abortion-on-demand, celebrating the prevention of a new life being born, became inevitable.

Inviting cultural & civilizational catastrophe is just another sacrament of the death cult.

Anonymous Avalanche May 24, 2017 8:49 AM  

@13 "neither would have happened with a strong Christian Europe. Your philosophy inevitably leads to cultural nihilism which then makes you susceptible to being displaced by any group with an actual ethos."

Yes, this is the painful realization I am coming to. Thank you, Vox(?) Painful because what I perceive as gains (on a personal metric) are also degeneration to the society in which I want to live. The idea of surrendering MY 'best freedoms' on behalf of my people grates. I suppose part of it is, I was raised in a pathological society, so I AM pathological in my outlook and desires.

(I am surprisingly "maternal" -- and yet, more than anything, have never wanted kids. Still don't - my fav type of kid is the kind I can give BACK to its parents! Is that 'bad genes' or pathology?)

I loved being married,I adored my husband. When he died (at 60; I was 56), after a few years very hard struggle, I am now successfully running an American manufacturing biz. Would I want to give that up? Hell no, the benefits and joys are worth the burden(s).

So many of the 'where we must go' discussions and descriptions, seem to leave me: just where exactly? The poor house? Living on the charity of some church? The spinster/widow relative of a family member, purposeless and stuck with the scut work, an inherited house servant?!

All-y'all men are (rightly?) planning for a future if we can get there -- but (and sorry Vox -- but it IS a concern to most women!): what about meeeeeeee? And all those like me? Your wives, your daughters and sisters and mothers? Look in your beloved daughter's eyes and tell her: "no sweetie, you CANNOT have a mission and purpose in life except to marry and make babies -- and if that doesn't work out, you're extraneous and of no concern to anyone." CAN you say that? (Would you?) Even IF it "helps" our nation to recover and survive?

(Wasn't it Madison's wife who asked him to "remember the ladies"? Who is planning, which of you is considering, "what to do" with the ladies? If your answer is always: "stay home make babies," you may be enlisting an army against you even when we WISH to help you.)

"How do you keep them down on the farm, after they've seen Paree"?! (EVEN the "Paree" of today!)


Blogger dc.sunsets May 24, 2017 9:48 AM  

@56 it sounds like you're an atypical woman. IMO, that's no big deal. A homogeneous society will surely accommodate those whose personality traits are toward the tails of the Normal Distribution.

I believe most people travel on a Happiness Path characterized by traditional life metrics, but as Jordan Peterson points out, tendencies are not absolutes. Being able to embrace the truths of our own personalities is central to figuring out how to find our own personal Happiness Path. Not everyone's is the widest highway on the map.

Anonymous BBGKB May 24, 2017 9:54 AM  

it's a bad idea to let 10s of thousands of backwards, third-world fucks into your country

Its hard enough to explain to leftists why we should let people in from a nation with a higher murder rate than its average IQ

I have tremendous respect for Tommy but his background makes it difficult for him to appeal to non-blue collar workers in Britain.

Things will get bad enough that everyone not jewish will be glad to support a guy with a sand niggers nuts stapled to the back of his hat.

Your reply about Japan, proves Vox's point.

They did the kamikaze ritual for the firefighters going to their nuke plant disaster.

How smart was Brevik to REALIZE that these were the larval stage of future globalist leaders? Wow!

Not a single person was killed that leftists think was too young to have sex with.

Orlando - Gays Manchester - Women What next, blacks or latinos massacred?

Orlando was brown gays, the shooter let blacks go because moslems believe all the infidels they kill will be their slaves in the afterlife, so they will never attack a jewish feminist meeting.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 24, 2017 10:19 AM  

moslems believe all the infidels they kill will be their slaves in the afterlife, so they will never attack a jewish feminist meeting.

Always a belly-laugh to be had here. I have a vivid imagination.

Anonymous BN May 24, 2017 12:59 PM  

Regarding the point you made using John Brown as an historical example. A few examples of things named in honor of him or to commemorate him.

1. There's a popular microbrewery in Lawrence that makes a "John Brown Ale" - https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/642/6598/
2. There's a hip little speakeasy style bar bearing his name. http://www.freelawrence.com/
3. The painting at the capital. https://www.kshs.org/p/kansas-state-capitol-online-tour-tragic-prelude/16595

Blogger Gaiseric May 24, 2017 1:37 PM  

modsquad wrote:@3

"Christian Europe wasn't dumb enough to do it for centuries. Post-Christian Europe did within decades. Those are the facts.

Explain them."

Outside of times of war, famine or plague, the last few decades is the first time Europe has shown negative population growth. Their degree or lack of Christianity right now has nothing to do with present circumstances. This is entirely driven by privately owned central banks.

The more money you create and lend, the greater your profits. A contracting population needs less money, not more. Bringing in fast breeding outsiders is just what the doctor ordered to maintain the constantly required "economic growth" that money makers need to remain in control.

Curiously, the Christian families have more average children than the non-Christians. Only Christian families can compete with Muslim families on number of average children.

Oh, snap.

Blogger Gaiseric May 24, 2017 3:04 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:@56 it sounds like you're an atypical woman. IMO, that's no big deal. A homogeneous society will surely accommodate those whose personality traits are toward the tails of the Normal Distribution.

I believe most people travel on a Happiness Path characterized by traditional life metrics, but as Jordan Peterson points out, tendencies are not absolutes. Being able to embrace the truths of our own personalities is central to figuring out how to find our own personal Happiness Path. Not everyone's is the widest highway on the map.

Maybe. Extraordinary conditions caused by mass social mania tend to predictably be followed by Thermidor reactions. Like the pendulum on an old-fashioned grandfather clock, the farther it swings one direction, the farther it swings the other direction when it comes back.

After the insane mania of feminism, I wouldn't be surprised to find that in Future America, women are barred from voting, public office, jury duty, etc.—that they're relegated to making sandwiches and speaking when spoken to. The worst caricatures that feminists conjure in their fever dreams of how women were treated in Thee Current Year minus 1 are not off the table for future state America.

Blogger glad2meetyou May 24, 2017 3:21 PM  

@60

Aaaaander's body lies amouldrin' in a jail...

Anonymous Avalanche May 24, 2017 4:31 PM  

@28 "Good God this place is dirty. "

Dirt, like all of Nature, is reality. If you don't like reality.... well, too bad for you and your children! Reality is painful.

My late husband used to ask a pretty strong "reality-based" question to try to get bunnies thinking. (Except bunnies can't deal with reality.) It's binary; there is no third way: THIS is reality and must be dealt with!

Would you rather SUFFER an atrocity, or commit one?

Anonymous Avalanche May 24, 2017 5:02 PM  

@30 "We never forgot how to slaughter innocents.
Hamburg, Dresden, Berlin... The only difference is that one is a state actor and the other is not."

The "state" has deserted its people, so it is up to the PEOPLE to become the state an act! "Saint Brevik" was early, but only for OUR side! The war against us has been going on for years and years. The 'larval activists' he killed were part of the suppliers and directors of the war machinery used against us.

"Children children children"? How about the 1,400 young girls of Rotherham (and the thousands in OTHER British cities that don't make the news) who were beaten, burned, raped, sodomized, prostituted. Were THEY not innocents? How about the thousands and thousands of White girls and women raped and tortured, mutilated and murdered, by the negro and moslem weapons turned against us by the "activists" you laud and would protect? Sound like war?

Of the estimated 650,000 inter-race crimes of violence committed every year, blacks are the perpetrators 85 percent of the time." But you claim "there is no war going on"? How blind, those who will not see! (That 650,000 is only in America -- every year! EVERY year! That's some FIVE+ MILLION over ten years: NOT a war?!)

Have you read of Channon Christian, 21, and Hugh Newsom, Jr., 23? No? Have a glimpse:
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Newsom's body was discovered ... bound, blindfolded, gagged, and stripped naked from the waist down. He had been shot in the back of the head, neck, and back, and his body had been set on fire. According to the testimony of ... Medical Examiner ... , Newsom was sodomized with an object and raped by a person....

The medical examiner said that Christian died after hours of torture, suffering injuries to her vagina, anus, and mouth in repeated sexual assaults. Bleach was poured down her throat and used to scrub her body while she was alive in an attempt by her attackers to remove DNA evidence. She was bound..., her face covered with a trash bag, and her body stashed in five large trash bags... placed inside a residential waste disposal unit and covered with sheets. The medical examiner said there was evidence that Christian slowly suffocated to death.
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https://infogalactic.com/info/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Read this part again: "Bleach was poured down her throat ... while she was alive," NOW try to get the image of young Channon out of your mind for the rest of your life!

I could post many many links to many lists of the many many many horrific WAR-crimes being committed against Whites. And you balk, because an educated man committed an act of WAR against the enemy who has been stage-managing this war against us for decades?!


Hold those hundreds of thousands of Whites, tortured, raped,and murdered (and I left out the White men and boys raped in prisons by negros), up against the 69 people Saint Brevik shot. Then, TELL ME WHO IS LOSING THIS WAR!?!?

Blogger VD May 24, 2017 6:11 PM  

If your answer is always: "stay home make babies," you may be enlisting an army against you even when we WISH to help you.

We know. That's why you will probably have to be broken. There is a very good reason the Founding Fathers did not permit women, or men without property, to vote. They knew that they had an insufficient ability to think outside themselves and their own immediate benefit.

Most female thinking is fundamentally magical. They assume that everything simply exists as it is, and that their actions can't possibly affect anything to any material extent. This is why a matriarchal society will eventually find itself dwelling in mud huts and dirt.

The male equivalent of the average female mindset is the man who only lives to get drunk and laid. Why should he build? Why should he protect? Why should he obey the laws, rules, and social mores? Why should he not simply do whatever feels right at the moment?

As you say, women can't even produce a persuasive pro-civilizational argument for women. How would you expect men to do so, or expect them to bother? The violent repression model is easier and it works particularly well with women.

The truth is, women should side with men in this regard because it is the right thing to do if they value civilization. If that is not sufficient, well, there is obviously little point in resorting to persuasion.

Follow us if you want flush toilets, air conditioning, and heat in winter.

Anonymous Avalanche May 29, 2017 8:54 AM  

Vox: "Follow us if you want flush toilets, air conditioning, and heat in winter."

And I do. And I will. But, oh, it's dismaying for so many (even awakened) women.

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