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Tuesday, May 02, 2017

Like monkeys studying the space shuttle

I will say this for New York Magazine. They certainly expended no shortage of man-hours and digital ink on a long and detailed piece about the Alt-Right by Simon Van Zuylen-Wood, Noreen Malone, Max Read, Andrew Sullivan, Park Macdougald, Jason Willick, Mark Jacobson, Maureen O’Connor, Gabriel Sherman, Ben Crair, Nick Richardson, and Mark O’connell with Claire Landsbaum, Jordan Larson, Amelia Schonbek, Matt Stieb, Nick Tabor, James D. Walsh:
To understand this new right, it helps to see it not as a fringe movement, but a powerful counterculture.

When did the right wing get so bizarre? Consider: For a brief and confusing moment earlier this year, milk somehow became a charged symbol of both white supremacy and support for Donald Trump. The details are postmodern, absurdist, and ominous — not unlike the forces that brought them about. In January, the actor Shia LaBeouf mounted an art installation designed to protest the president. The next month, neo-Nazis who organized on the message board 4chan crashed the show, where they started chugging from milk jugs — because northern Europeans digest milk well, or because milk is … white. In other words, an innocent dairy beverage as old as time had been conscripted as a Donald Trump surrogate on the internet. It was yet another message-board in-joke — freighted with political meaning — suddenly in the news.

But weirdness, perhaps, is what happens when a movement grows very quickly and without any strong ideological direction — from a disciplined party, from traditional institutions like churches and chambers of Congress, from anything more organized than the insurrectionist internet.

Here in America, in trying to describe our brand of the reactionary wave currently tsunami-ing the entire developed world, we’ve leaned on the term alt-right, which had been coined by white supremacists. Richard Spencer, the most press-hungry of that group, takes credit for it. For much of last year, the term was often used as shorthand for “racists, but … young?” Which is helpful, as far as it goes, but the full reality is much more complicated. The alt-right — or the new right, if you prefer to sound more like Tom Wolfe than Kurt Cobain, or the radical right, to properly acknowledge its break from mainstream conservatism — is a coalition comprised of movements like neo-reaction, certain strands of libertarianism, tech triumphalism, and even the extreme-populist wing of the Republican Party. All share with Spencer’s white-ethno-nativism the ideals of isolationism, protectionism, and nationalism: a closed nation-state. Along the way, the coalition swept up “men’s rights” advocates and anti-Semites and cruel angry teenagers and conspiracy theorists and a few fiendishly clever far-right websites and harassing hashtags and even a U.S. congressman or two. Not to mention the White House.

But to approach the big messy tent of the new retrograde right — the international brigade of nativist-nationalists, tech-savvy anti-globalists, the porn-loving gender traditionalists — as primarily a political movement is to wildly underestimate its scope. Reactionary energy helped deliver all three branches of government to a Republican Party in the grips of an alt-right-curious anti-PC bomb-thrower the faithful called their “god-emperor” (or at least helped him along with last year’s affirmative action for white people, a.k.a. the Electoral College). But at no point during the campaign, even, could you have mistaken the unruly energy on the right for anything so organized as a party or as purposeful as a protest movement. It was — and is — a counterculture. One formed in the spirit of opposition to everything the existing Establishment stood for: globalist, technocratic liberal elitism. The amazing thing is, in November, for the first time in American electoral history, the counterculture won everything.
It's the usual discredit-diminish-and-disqualify hit piece, of course. And while people have noticed some curious omissions - Guess whose name does not appear in a huge 20-part article on the Alt Right?  Hint: he's the author of 16 Points of the Alt Right. - the much more serious flaw is the near-complete unwillingness of the 20 or so authors to actually quote anyone who is Alt-Right, or even in the Alt-Right's orbit, about what it is and what it stands for.

Instead, they all ran out to get quotes from academics and others openly hostile to the Alt-Right, in order to better pontificate to their readers about what it is they think we believe and why we pose such a dire threat to the established political order. It's rather like the sort of college course that is designed to provide the course taker with the sense that he knows the subject matter without actually teaching him anything about it. The one thing the small army of co-authors did get right, however, is to observe the fact that the Alt-Right is both a broad-based cultural phenomenon and a nationalist political philosophy, not a "branded movement" or a specific ideology.

It's a pity that no one thought to send any of these indefatigable ideological spelunkers the version of the 16 Points best suited to their ability to understand the Alt-Right. And considering on their bizarre musings about the term cuckservative, you'd think it would have occurred to one of them to at least check Amazon. But the most egregious failure is without question their inexplicable inability to grasp the source of the God-Emperor meme.

Speaking of the 16 Points of the Alt-Right, I should mention that I finally got the Ukrainian translation posted earlier today, as well as the Esperanto and Irish translations. You can find them on the right sidebar as UK, EO, and GA.

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118 Comments:

Blogger roundeye May 02, 2017 6:48 AM  

And totally blew the origin of God-Emperor.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable May 02, 2017 6:50 AM  

Our existing Establishment stands for transnational elitist cronyism, and against the American Nation.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 02, 2017 6:51 AM  

Reporter: "All of our hit pieces haven't been working, what do we do?"

Editor: "Write a really long one involving all the reporters we have on staff. Also make sure you don't quote any of the subjects. Maybe interview some expert types and we can make a claim about expert consensus, that trick always works. Pretty sure this will finally destroy them."

Anonymous Walter Oleg May 02, 2017 6:54 AM  

It contain the usual hit piece antics. It kept using the "white supremacist" label and the "they're motivated by 'hate' and 'fear'" accusations and of course, the "they can't get a good job and women don't like them" smear.



Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 6:55 AM  

Vox said:
"And while people have noticed some curious omissions - Guess whose name does not appear in a huge 20-part article on the Alt Right? Hint: he's the author of 16 Points of the Alt Right. - the much more serious flaw is the near-complete unwillingness of the 20 or so authors to actually quote anyone who is Alt-Right or even in the Alt-Right's orbit about what it is and what it stands for."

To be fair to NYMag, while they did not mention you in the article, they put you in their story board(is that what you call it?) photo at the top of the article. You're in the 'Troll Hub' section along with Discord, Gab, 4 chan, 8 chan and Reddit. I quite like the story board, at least they've done a good job on that.

Blogger Breadbasket May 02, 2017 6:56 AM  

"last year’s affirmative action for white people, a.k.a. the Electoral College"

Wow, that's a new one. I didn't know that affirmative action actually started in 1787.

Blogger Wanderer May 02, 2017 6:58 AM  

The less accurately they know about the Alt-Right the better. Never interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake.

Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 6:58 AM  

Scratch that, my mistake, it was Voat with a line through it. Low res, I thought it said Vox.

Anonymous Mister M May 02, 2017 7:01 AM  

New York Magazine is still out there? It had as much gravitas as MAD back in the 1980's. Hey, I have to give them credit for trying.

Slate Star Codex, surprisingly, gets the Sad Puppies and Gamergate wrong - which is odd because SSC usually sees reality from a leftist perspective:

"I’m desperately trying to avoid the Nerd Culture Wars, which have somehow managed to be even worse than the Regular Culture Wars, but even I’ve heard about GamerGate and the Sad Puppies. These were originally movements to fight a perceived liberal bias in regular gaming/sci-fi. They of course failed, and now they’re their own little separate conservative spaces practicing conservative video game commentary/sci-fi writing. I don’t want to deny that they’re often horrible. They’re horrible in exactly the same way FOX News is horrible, and for exactly the same reasons. I expect this pattern of conservatives seceding from theoretically-neutral-but-realistically-left-leading communities and forming terrible communities full of witches to repeat itself again and again, because it’s happening for systemic rather than community-specific reasons."

The usual dismissive, fact free analysis. Not the norm for SSC, which correctly analyzed Trump's win with a post called "You Are Still Crying Wolf", which blasted the Left.

Anonymous Insincere Steve May 02, 2017 7:03 AM  

More authors means more better!

Anonymous Ismaul May 02, 2017 7:11 AM  

Heh, Nick Land made it to their list but you didn't...

Anonymous Sensei May 02, 2017 7:13 AM  

a few fiendishly clever far-right websites

That may be as close as they can get to referencing the Voice Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered.

Anonymous GithYankee May 02, 2017 7:14 AM  

I love this quote from Shadi Hamid (name says it all): "we can allow some room for a legitimate expression of white identity". He will allow. How very noble of him, to allow us a white identity, as long as it's non-racist, non-discriminatory. Just like Islam. Very open minded and accepting of all.

Blogger Lazarus May 02, 2017 7:16 AM  

Sept. 19, 1995: WaPo and NYT publish the Unabomber manifesto in order to try to get someone identify the writer through the writing style and content.

If Vox just started a terrorist bombing campaign first, maybe they would have published the 16 points by now.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 7:16 AM  

Heh, Nick Land made it to their list but you didn't.

Which is amusing, considering that Nick is a techno-galaxian-monarchist or whatever and dismisses the Alt-Right as "democratic nationalist populism".

Blogger weka May 02, 2017 7:19 AM  

@1. You picked up the first of many clangers. The entire article reads as if it was put together by a bunch of eleven year old female prigs. The language is leaden.

Besides, Warhammer 20000 would trigger them all.

God-Emperor
Donald Trump.

The title bestowed by members of the devoted Reddit community r/the_donald. In the past, “god-emperor” has been used by historians and subjects to describe the Roman and Japanese emperors; Jesus Christ; and massive, immortal, psychic human-worm hybrid Leto II Atreides from Frank Herbert’s sci-fi novel God Emperor of Dune. It is unclear which god-emperor the president is meant to recall.


Other beauties: they missed that Peter Thiel is a NZ citizen: that Nick Land does not work by himself, and they have no clue about the Orthosphere, Wrath of Gnon, or MGTOW.

They are not monkeys studying a space shuttle. They are slugs trying to comprehend life with more than one neuron.

Blogger Shimshon May 02, 2017 7:24 AM  

That's a lot of breathless rhetoric signifying nothing. The sentences are so long and ponderous and grammatically curious, I wonder if each sentence was edited by each of the 20 contributors.

The SD0 translation is still my favorite.

Blogger CM May 02, 2017 7:26 AM  

So apparently someone had accused Rush Limbaugh of coining the term cuckservative. Considering the both of you tend to say close to the same things (he a little less Devil May Care), I've frequently wondered if you two are the same people =p

The media doesn't know how to do research. It is a combination of intense laziness, lack of intellect, and blatant disregard and misdirection.

OT: Found a Trail Life USA troop out by us! My son is now participating in it.

Blogger Duke Norfolk May 02, 2017 7:28 AM  

Yes, they are constitutionally incapable of putting aside their biases (and r-selected urges) long enough to objectively describe, much less truly understand, the Alt Right.

They are still clueless. Excellent news.

Blogger Stilicho May 02, 2017 7:34 AM  

They tried ridiculing the alt-right but it hasn't worked well for them (how could it when their efforts get destroyed with a single Pepe meme?), so now they are adding in more ominous accusations that reflect their own state of fear far more accurately than they reflect any truth about the alt-right. They are becoming desperate to create an alt-right "leader" they can destroy and thereby claim to have destroyed the movement. The global presence of the alt-right is starting to penetrate their soy latte infused brains and the urge to point and shriek "not rabbit" is becoming painful for them. Next up will be squee-and-flee. Part of their problem is that the left hasn't had to face a real fight since Kursk and their ranks are made up of Trotsky apologists and Che Guevara LARPers in black masks. At some point, I expect them to glom on to whatever Stalin substitutes they can find to lead them as their globalist bureaucracy proves increasing unable to win against an opposition that does more than bark and roll over to have its belly rubbed a la National Review.

Blogger Dirtnapninja May 02, 2017 7:41 AM  

Its very telling that the authors dont understand or know where the imagery of the God Emperor came from.

Our enemies dont understand us, or our symbolism. But we understand them.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 02, 2017 7:42 AM  

a few fiendishly clever far-right websites

They can't even insult well. Who doesn't want to be known as "fiendishly clever"?

Speaking of Fake News, remember a few weeks ago when all the defeatists were parroting the media narrative of "OMG Bannon is OUT Kushner taking over We are DOOMED!"? Well, the president just told Bloomberg that Bannon remains Chief Strategist, and in fact everyone's getting along better than ever, and he expects all his "polarizing" aides -- Bannon, Conway, Preibus, Spicer -- to remain on staff for the foreseeable future. (Note the president's counter-narrative: I, Donald Trump, am great at getting disparate people to work together.) He even claimed Bannon is "alt-left," just to screw with them.

Blogger ZhukovG May 02, 2017 7:46 AM  

"we can allow some room for a legitimate expression of white identity"

That is indeed FEAR I smell!

Time to push harder. They must realize that they cannot 'Tea Party' the Alt-Right and are now just desperately trying to prevent the Alt-Lite from turning to the Dark Side.

(Sith Voice) But, it is unavoidable. It is their destiny.

Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 7:46 AM  

"I think the real change especially occurred about Hillary gave her Reno speech in which she denounced the alt-right. Which, at that point, I think the growth of the movement really sped up. Which is not to say that she necessarily made a mistake, but the alt-right viewed it as a major victory to be brought into the national conversation that way.” —George Hawley, political scientist"

I remember watching this on Youtube at the time, and thinking to myself, "wow, are you really that stupid Hillary, you've just lost the election." Bad advisors, or good ones I guess.

Blogger SteelPalm May 02, 2017 7:55 AM  

@9

The usual dismissive, fact free analysis. Not the norm for SSC, which correctly analyzed Trump's win with a post called "You Are Still Crying Wolf", which blasted the Left.

Really? I've always thought of SlateStarCodex as a tedious, laughably wrong idiot with delusions of grandeur.

I used to consider it a black mark against anyone who shared his drivel on Facebook. Back before Facebook perma-locked me out.

And yeah, the NY Mag article is hilarious. So many man-hours, likely costing the publication tens of thousands of dollars. And still so wrong!

It's also telling how many "inconvenient" facts they omit about the biographies of Jared Taylor, Paul Gottfried, Sailer, Cernovich, etc. and their actual views.

For instance, they latch on to Cernovich's divorce as evidence of a bitterness towards women and inability to form stable relationships. But of course they don't mention he is presently happily married, with a daughter.

Blogger Shimshon May 02, 2017 7:56 AM  

@22 Cail, it's like just after Trump lobbed 59 missiles (so we are told) at Syria. The the same defeatists started parroting the media's narrative of McMaster's invasion plans (also with the "WE ARE DOOMED!" alarmism) and how a Syrian invasion was imminent. Meanwhile, Trump himself said an invasion was not going to happen (with no weasel words).

I think I stopped paying attention to the media and defeatists by 1/21 at the latest.

The alt-left jab was a nice touch.

Blogger Phillip George May 02, 2017 7:59 AM  

Vox you better not go outside today as the State Dept have just issued a travel warning for all Europe.
Maybe Assad is going to drop a barrel bomb filled with WMD gas on a kindergarten in your neighbourhood.
The Russians are saying MWaaaaaHaaaHa Haaaarrrr.

You are right. When a sane man couldn't give a rats arse if they get called bigotted rayciss and Xenofaggophobic the Alt win.

Ps. Jesus died and rose again. Muhammad by definition is just another anti Christ. Which means science wasn't on his or their side.

Blogger robins111 May 02, 2017 8:00 AM  

What I'm getting the most entertainment from, is watching 4chan turn these media fools into jabbering apoplectic screamers.

Blogger NO GOOGLES May 02, 2017 8:00 AM  

It used to anger me whenever the lying media would spout bullshit about the alt-right. Now it seems like the worst possible thing the media could do to the alt-right is honestly and forthrightly cover it and its ideas. The legacy media is so discredited and has so thoroughly beclowned itself that I'd rather have them angrily scream "NEO NAZI WHITE SUPREMACIST MILK DRINKING FROG HAND SIGNALERS" every time they mention the alt-right.

I run into people every day who are basically stealth alt-right, and most of them actually started looking up the alt-right after seeing one of the legacy media's spittle-flecked rage articles about how the alt-right are basically comic book villains. The media's reputation is so bad to most people who might be even partially receptive the to the alt-right that anything that the media hates and denounces as much as the alt-right automatically makes people curious.

Just a case in the importance of "having all the right enemies", I guess.

Anonymous Looking Glass May 02, 2017 8:05 AM  

I've been blogging through my reading of this piece on Gab. It's pretty bad. It's a great case study in the 3 Laws in Action: Lie, Project & Double Down.

Vox's title is quite accurate, though. Really, don't read the piece. It's not very good.

But, seriously, they clearly have an awareness of Vox's existence. And they clearly don't want to mention he exists. They're scared of the SDL.

Blogger NO GOOGLES May 02, 2017 8:10 AM  

Also, I really have no idea how they missed out on the origin of "God-Emperor". They could have typed it into google and would have had the answer literally spelled out for them in one of the top 3 entries.

Anonymous Critically Bent May 02, 2017 8:13 AM  

I thought 4chan got converged by mass mod manipulation...

Am I wrong on that?

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 8:15 AM  

But, seriously, they clearly have an awareness of Vox's existence. And they clearly don't want to mention he exists. They're scared of the SDL.

I know they do. They email me and request interviews with some degree of regularity. I got another email from a BBC reporter just last night. I don't know that they're necessarily scared of me, but it's quite clear that they don't know how to fit me into their narrative.

Given the way leftists think, I suspect the answer is straightforward and they simply don't want to have to mention that I am a Native American for fear it will harm the "white supremacist" theme.

Blogger Salt May 02, 2017 8:24 AM  

robins111 wrote:What I'm getting the most entertainment from, is watching 4chan turn these media fools into jabbering apoplectic screamers.
The meme wars have been amazingly successful.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 8:26 AM  

It might surprise a lot of you if you knew how well-aware the major media figures are of some of the lesser-known people. My parents ran into Tucker Carlson about 12 years ago and were pleased to discover that he knew and liked my WND column.

If you're sufficiently aware, you can tell that certain people read this blog and certain others read Steve Sailer's site with some degree of regularity. It wouldn't surprise me now that Steve has been formally "acknowledged" if they start to actually cite him now. There is an unwritten rule that you don't cite people until they have been deemed "significant" by a major New York publication. That's why the SJWs are constantly fawning all over each other, in an attempt to justify an "acknowledgment" article.

I figure that I'll probably be the subject of a major "evil genius behind it all" article similar to those written about Bannon before the next presidential election cycle. Once Infogalactic and Castalia House get a little bigger, and the nationalists win a few more elections, I'm pretty much tailor-made for "The Dark Lord of the Alt-Right"-style hit pieces.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly May 02, 2017 8:30 AM  

Yeah. The "extremist, reactionary right wing" that drinks milk and trolls with frog memes. I'm starting to see why liberals try to ignore and purge all history. It must truly be a terrifying place for them.

Like a few of the wiser commenters have said, let them keep spinning themselves into a frenzy while we visibly oppose the commies and build goodwill with the common man.

Anonymous Looking Glass May 02, 2017 8:31 AM  

@VD:

Well, it's still fear.

Which is really going to make those "Dark Lord of the Alt-Right" pieces hilarious. They're going to just nibble at the edges. You don't attack someone with an Army.


@22. Cail Corishev

I made a joke that they spent 20 minutes a day having a meeting about how to troll the media. It was a joke. Clearly, it's actually policy of the Trump Administration to think about trolling the media. I love it.

Anonymous Teapartydoc May 02, 2017 8:38 AM  

An admission that the counterculture they decry won is a big deal. We might not consider it as an outright win for us, but they did. I think that's a big deal, but then again, maybe they think we're a straw man that they think they can set up and knock down in lieu of Trump.

Blogger bosscauser May 02, 2017 9:02 AM  

Sigh.... Russians under every bed not working for them. Must be evil milk swilling Nazis...

Somebody cue Glen Beck!

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger F.D. Stephens May 02, 2017 9:03 AM  

That article is the updated version of something in the 1960s trying to explain surf culture by telling readers to watch Gidget movies.

It's laughable to see people who have promoted themselves as intellectual gatekeepers for decades struggle with something beyond their reach. Once you've got the NYT trying to earnestly explain something, you know very well that it's beyond their control. All it does is signal to teens that their parents' generation is hopelessly uncool, clueless, and downright dangerous.

The Left is beginning to feel out of their depth, and the first ripples of terror are starting to spread.

Give it another year, and there will be sociology professors specializing in the alt-right. An ethnographer will contact Vox and ask if she can live with him for a year. And we'll see the first alt-right branding attempt by a major corporation.

The narrative collapse is more beautiful than I ever imagined.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer May 02, 2017 9:18 AM  

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Anonymous Warmaster May 02, 2017 9:19 AM  

Guess whose name does not appear in a huge 20-part article on the Alt Right? Hint: he's the author of 16 Points of the Alt Right

Not only do they not mention you, they don't mention the sixteen points. Makes me wonder how relevant you actually are.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer May 02, 2017 9:20 AM  

They fear our accelleration. drink milking nazis deserves some kind of troll trophy.

Anonymous patrick kelly May 02, 2017 9:21 AM  

Are they laughing at us or fighting us its hard to tell?

Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 9:21 AM  

@40 F.D. Stephens:
"And we'll see the first alt-right branding attempt by a major corporation."

Maybe if we get in early, we can preorder alt-right merchandise at target. I hope it doesn't mean I have to wear my pants around my ankles though. Atleast the alt-white has Hugo.

Anonymous Lit Dog May 02, 2017 9:28 AM  

What a great title! These primates project the befuddled sense that the alt-right is bizarre when it is they who preach cuckoldry. And then they imply praise of the traditional institutions they've subverted to their cuckoldry.

I have a piece directed at the morons who swish and swallow this anti-White nonsense.

www.DukeDougherty.com/remarks

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 02, 2017 9:36 AM  

So the New York establishment says "White Identity" is allowable?

Maybe if this is true they can post the guidelines for the untermensch like me, I can read real good.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl May 02, 2017 9:36 AM  

To sum up their position: "There are 'people' who live outside Versailles, and they have what could be called 'feelings.'"

These guys are aghast that the peasantry doesn't want to be brutally crushed, oppressed, or annihilated. What's the word that describes these kinds of thinkers - evil?

Also, I like that they use "radical" to describe the Alt-Right's political philosophy, as if self-determination and a fondness for classical liberalism is somehow a radical position to take.

Well, I guess it is for non-Westerners. These eggheads are little more than mandarins, wishing to bring back the old Eastern Despotism. In that way, notions of citizenship and ownership of private property along with citizen voting rights *ARE pretty radical. It's also why these shills pony up to Communism and Islam.

Which is why I like the AltRight - they (we) recognize that Leftism and Islam are not philosophies that these guys actually believe, but that they are merely tools for gaining absolute power.

Blogger Quilp May 02, 2017 9:38 AM  

Coming from someone not considered tech savvy, cool, well versed in the language on the alt right, much less the ability to understand the younger members like 4chan /pol/....I can say it takes some effort just to be able to fathom what is being said half the time. The first time I actually bothered to find out what MPAI was, I was rather red faced I had to search for its meaning. I guess if you are already on your way to accepting some of the premises you find on Alt right sites, like I, and others, then you are anxious to figure out what is actually being said, not get quotes about what is being said from people who don't understand it any better than you do. I'm not claiming its difficult, but the fact that the NY Times put in all those man hours, using different personnel, without putting in at least the effort "regular" people do, in an effort to explain something to their readers, shows how little they think of their own readers, and why the Alt Right will prevail.

Anonymous Carlos Danger May 02, 2017 9:40 AM  

Vox:

any chance that Castalia House will one day print traditional Christian friendly children's books? There is a big need for them and almost no one is publishing them anymore. People buy used ones at garage sales mostly. I get the impression they serve to cover a lot of publishing's fixed costs as they are reliable sellers and don't cost as much to produce as full blown books.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl May 02, 2017 9:46 AM  

@40

"It's laughable to see people who have promoted themselves as intellectual gatekeepers for decades struggle with something beyond their reach. Once you've got the NYT trying to earnestly explain something, you know very well that it's beyond their control."

This is the same class of people who denied the Soviet Union could ever collapse, even up to the 1980s. Or that "Consensus!" is an argument.

"The Left is beginning to feel out of their depth, and the first ripples of terror are starting to spread."

Every day you can see this. In the US, how many "Days of Protest/Resistance" have there been? Every day on the fake news networks, it's some catastrophe by Trump! Tax cuts - will the world end tomorrow?

"The narrative collapse is more beautiful than I ever imagined."

It really is beautiful. Like "Minnesota Men"? Or just yesterday, the Narrative fought back against the GE's claim the American Civil War could have been prevented*. So so desperate.

*This is the intellectual calibre we're fighting here. They either believe or choose to argue that historical events could never have been prevented. This is how utterly ruthless and incompetent these people are. They understand nothing, hence their desire for absolute power. Big surprise these halfwits are professors - "Why do we need to do this assignment?" "Because it's on the syllabus?" "Why" "Because I put it there! Do as I say!!" "Why??" "I AM YOUR GOD!"

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar May 02, 2017 9:49 AM  

Ur still flying under their radar.
I'd call that a win.

Anonymous Harry P. May 02, 2017 9:51 AM  

Sorry Vox, but you strike me sometimes as rather narcissistic. Why they didn't mentioned you and "16 Points of the Alt Right"? Because you or "16 Points of the Alt Right" are simply not well known enough. Let's take "16 Points of the Alt Right" as an example. Google it (quotes included). Only 2200 hits. Best Alexa rank of those not counting twitter/reddit/youtube is your own blog, next has rank nearly twice as much, other are even worse.

How many alt-right/lite personalities have even publicly acknowledged those 16 points? Yeah sure, journalist often write you asking for interview, but frankly, how many of them ask because you are well known rather than simply fishing for any alt-right "figurehead" which they could make straw-man from? You are well known in sff and relatively small bubble around your blog, Infogalactic, etc. but that's about it. Even Stephan Molyneux who is much better known wasn't mentioned in the article.

4chan's /pol/ is great indicator of who is well known and who isn't. I have seen there countless threads about Pat Buchanan, Jared Taylor, Steve Sailer, Mencius Moldbug, P. J. Watson, Milo, Cernovich, Lauren Southern, Scott Adams, Alex Jones, Shapiro, Molyneux... Sometimes they are applauded, sometimes condemned, but I don't remember seeing your name even mentioned.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian May 02, 2017 9:54 AM  

@35
I'm pretty much tailor-made for "The Dark Lord of the Alt-Right"-style hit pieces.

That would be frame worthy.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 9:56 AM  

@13 GithYankee
"I love this quote from Shadi Hamid (name says it all): "we can allow some room for a legitimate expression of white identity" "

That's mighty white of him. In return, I'm willing to allow Hamid some room for a legitimate expression of brown identity-- back in sandland, of course. Not here.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 10:02 AM  

@15 VD

"Heh, Nick Land made it to their list but you didn't.

Which is amusing, considering that Nick is a techno-galaxian-monarchist or whatever and dismisses the Alt-Right as "democratic nationalist populism" "

Neoreaction/ Moldbuggery is to the alt right as libertarianism is to right wing populism-- an intellectual circle jerk that will never get anywhere. There's a reason why antifa doesn't attack libertarians, and why the mainstream coverage of neoreaction is typically dispassionate or amused in tone, while their coverage of the alt right is often characterized by hysterical point 'n sputter tactics.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 02, 2017 10:05 AM  

#13 which part of that crap article is that Hamdi quote in?

Blogger praetorian May 02, 2017 10:07 AM  

I thought 4chan got converged by mass mod manipulation...

Am I wrong on that?


They tried, but anonymous sh*t-posting is too powerful for even dedicated moderators and it unconverged itself. Only time I've seen this happen. It's still a disaster, of course, but that's how it has always been.

Anonymous Just another commenter May 02, 2017 10:12 AM  

The New Yorker isn't about news, it's about indoctrination and virtue signaling.

Noted: when they need to assemble a committee of 19 people to write an article that doesn't include a single interview with anyone who is the actual subject of the article, you know they are only staying afloat financially by a sugar-daddy, not the strength of their publication.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 10:19 AM  

any chance that Castalia House will one day print traditional Christian friendly children's books?

There is a chance, but it is far from a priority.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 10:19 AM  

Not only do they not mention you, they don't mention the sixteen points. Makes me wonder how relevant you actually are.

Not at all, presumably. Why are you even here?

Anonymous BBGKB May 02, 2017 10:20 AM  

because northern Europeans digest milk well

R style evolution didn't evolve to drink milk or plan/build/store to survive months with no food growing.

Richard Spencer, the most press-hungry of that group, takes credit for it.

Lamestream sure resisted mentioning the face pushing tranny bathrooms in NC was convicted of a sex offense with a minor. Kinda like that convicted rapist leading the OH gun control group.

year’s affirmative action for white people, a.k.a. the Electoral College)

CA has at least 20 extra fake electoral votes from counting illegals on the census

"we can allow some room for a legitimate expression of white identity"That is indeed FEAR I smell!

No just urine, Shadi Hamid has not bathed in a while

Anonymous Warmaster May 02, 2017 10:26 AM  

Why are you even here?

Dumpster fires are just one of those things you have to look at on occasion.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 02, 2017 10:27 AM  

@32, Both 4chan and reddit have shown signs of convergence at the top and have had episodes of deleted posts, banned users, etc., but they still have active right-wing communities. The sites can't be trusted, but you can't trust any site these days, really, unless you control it yourself. People don't like to give up their communities, so they keep using them as long as they aren't shut down entirely. Those sites are used mainly for short-term discussion, so long-term retention isn't that important, and anything you want to survive should be archived to multiple places anyway.

Coming from someone not considered tech savvy, cool, well versed in the language on the alt right, much less the ability to understand the younger members like 4chan /pol/....I can say it takes some effort just to be able to fathom what is being said half the time.

Don't feel bad. I am tech-savvy and cool, but I can't follow them either. I figure that's probably a good thing, since the enemy will never be able to fathom them enough to do any real investigation into what makes them tick. I follow r/The_Donald instead, which relays the highlights of what /pol/ comes up with, but more-or-less in English.

Blogger maniacprovost May 02, 2017 10:28 AM  

This article is the funniest thing since #FyreFestival. OMG.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 10:29 AM  

For those unfamiliar with the back story, the "milk is racist" meme is a troll that originates in mockery of an article by some crazy Mexican leftist, writing for the Cal State Long Beach student newspaper, and espousing, completely seriously and unironically, that exact viewpoint. This was seized upon, both for its inherent comedy value, and because of the obvious incoherence of the that a clear, unambiguous biological difference between races symbolizes why we need to do more to promote the idea of race as a social construct.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/14492/college-student-explains-why-milk-racist-elliott-hamilton

I'm not sure whether the New York writers are actually unaware of this history, or (more likely) determined to pretend that they are. Progs HATE being mocked, and would much rather pretend they don't understand the joke than acknowledge that they look ridiculous to normal people.

Blogger Gaiseric May 02, 2017 10:31 AM  

Warmaster wrote:Dumpster fires are just one of those things you have to look at on occasion.
Exactly how relevant this blog is is certainly debatable, but nobody is going to be able to make a serious case that the book SJW's Always Lie hasn't had a significant impact on the alt-right.

Blogger Orville May 02, 2017 10:32 AM  

Hah! Here in America, in trying to describe our brand of the reactionary wave currently tsunami-ing the entire developed world...

They think this is a tsunami. Wait until the social mood gets into third or fourth gear.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 10:37 AM  

@58. praetorian
"I thought 4chan got converged by mass mod manipulation...

Am I wrong on that?

They tried, but anonymous sh*t-posting is too powerful for even dedicated moderators and it unconverged itself. Only time I've seen this happen. It's still a disaster, of course, but that's how it has always been"

Interesting. I don't really follow 4chan much. Was there any noticeable change with gook moot vs. cuck moot?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 10:38 AM  

@58 praetorian
4chan convergence
They tried, but anonymous sh*t-posting is too powerful for even dedicated moderators and it unconverged itself. Only time I've seen this happen. It's still a disaster, of course, but that's how it has always been.

So the new progtard mods couldn't take the pressure? Are they still there or did they quit modding, one way or another? This is an example of the "don't care, really don't care" grassroots overthrowing diktat wannabes, and it is glorious.
Yeah, it's a mess, but so what? A glorious mess of weaponized autists.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 10:43 AM  

Dumpster fires are just one of those things you have to look at on occasion.

Ah, an anklebiter. I see. Well, they certainly are sweet, aren't they.

Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 10:44 AM  

@68 Orville:
"They think this is a tsunami. Wait until the social mood gets into third or fourth gear."

Rope shortages are gunna suck. Spit roasting will make up for it though.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 02, 2017 10:44 AM  

Yockey the progs really hate that the AUTHORITY they source is mocked, conservatives never did that.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 10:50 AM  

About that milk chugging as a political act that confuses the smart set. If they'd watched LeBoef's video from the museum in Brooklyn, they would maybe understand it. Some of them might read here.

Attention smart set: when you, yes you people, you, and your friends set out to ban or prohibit or otherwise shut down any dissent to your project, you merely politicized other acts. It's not new. If you knew any history, which you don't, you'd realize this.

LeBoef's fanbois and fangrrls made it very difficult for anyone normal to get too close to the camera at the museum in Brooklyn for more than a few seconds. What with all the drum banging and chanting and stuff. So the normals were supposed to be good little droogs and just shut up or chant the slogan a few times to fit in. That's what you Smart Set would do, right?

But instead normal people, ordinary young guys, creatively came up with other ways to protest and mock the pretense of He Will Not Dee Vide Us. Showing up without a shirt and drinking MILK, YEAH! FOR THE WIN! is a visual version of sh*tposting Pepe memes. The message slides right by the fanbois and fangrrls, gets right out there with a smirk and a wink.

Moving the HWNDU camera to Albuquerque didn't make any difference, because guess what? The normal young men out there reacted the same. They might have even communicated with each other!

Dear Smart Set, you have made almost everything in life political. Don't act so surprised when people push back in their own way, laughing at you the whole time, as you lose again.

Anyone for milk?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable May 02, 2017 10:53 AM  

Not only do they not mention you, they don't mention the sixteen points. Makes me wonder how relevant you actually are.

Duh. Because then people might wonder about them and actually read them, which would mean they'd see how totally reasonable they are. The sixteen points are toxic to the media narrative.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 10:53 AM  

@50 Carlos Danger
"Vox:

any chance that Castalia House will one day print traditional Christian friendly children's books? There is a big need for them and almost no one is publishing them anymore"

You probably know this already, but just in case: pre-1985 children's books were banned a few years back, and they've been steadily pulling them out of circulation.

http://proliberty.com/observer/20090218.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032301764.html

Those who might suspect that the reason behind this ban has more to do with fear of intellectual "contamination" than of chemical contamination (lead) are clearly just paranoid.

Anonymous Critically Bent May 02, 2017 11:01 AM  

If SciFi was more influential, "weaponized autists" would be called mentats.

Anonymous Rocklea May 02, 2017 11:05 AM  

@77 Critically Bent:
"If SciFi was more influential, "weaponized autists" would be called mentats."

They can only claim that title once all the thinking machines are destroyed.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III May 02, 2017 11:08 AM  

/pol/ knows almost nothing about the intellectual history of what became the alt-right. Someone who got interested in politics from Ron Paul 2012 is in the 99th percentile. Half them literally think that Hillary and the Dems invented the term "Alt-Right".

I've seen Vox mentioned a few times, but he, Sailer, Buchanan, etc. are almost unknown there.

Podcasters/youtubers/"e-celebs" are the ones they know. And, they usually hate them.

Stephan Molyneaux being the exception. He is almost universally beloved. Cernovich is probably the most hated, followed by Richard Spencer.

And, even though Daily Stormer is basically a NatSoc off-shoot of /pol/, Anglin gets almost know mention (and, it is almost always negative).

"Varg" gets 100 times more mention than VD and Sailer combined.

There are 100 jew threads a day, yet Kevin MacDonald is a "literally who?".

If they aren't memeable, they are not memorable over there.

Despite its ignorance, I still love the place.

Anonymous Grayman May 02, 2017 11:18 AM  

Speaking of tides turning on the left....

Its going to be hilarious to see them lose their minds when the whole segregation game gets turned back on them:

Students at Pomona College have published a letter demanding that administrators rescind their offer to hire Sociology Professor Alice Goffman because she’s white.
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9097

Blogger Were-Puppy May 02, 2017 11:28 AM  

@24 Rocklea
I remember watching this on Youtube at the time, and thinking to myself, "wow, are you really that stupid Hillary, you've just lost the election." Bad advisors, or good ones I guess.
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Hitlery damaged her side far more than that with that speech.

People tend to only focus on their own part being called out, which for most of us is alt-right.

But she also called out Alex Jones as a black heart, which exploded his own audience.

And she tried to lump in conspiracy theorists with this, which fired up everyone from political conspiracy theorist to UFO hunters and Pizza Gaters.

That was the dumbest speech she has ever shot herself in the foot with.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 02, 2017 11:33 AM  

@35 VD
I figure that I'll probably be the subject of a major "evil genius behind it all" article similar to those written about Bannon before the next presidential election cycle. Once Infogalactic and Castalia House get a little bigger, and the nationalists win a few more elections, I'm pretty much tailor-made for "The Dark Lord of the Alt-Right"-style hit pieces.
---

Aren't you also the Donald Trump of the Internet ?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 11:34 AM  

73. Mr.MantraMan
"Yockey the progs really hate that the AUTHORITY they source is mocked, conservatives never did that"

Good point. At some level, they likely understand that mockery is a powerful weapon against an entrenched, faith-based, deeply irrational ideology. At the same time, they have great difficulty in accurately perceiving the reality that they are both blind adherents of a quasi-religious cult, and the staid "establishment." In their minds, they are somehow both the quintessence of rationalism, and brave rebels, fighting against The Man. Cognitive dissonance.

Blogger VD May 02, 2017 11:35 AM  

Aren't you also the Donald Trump of the Internet?

Merely of science fiction, I am informed.

Blogger Sagramore May 02, 2017 11:41 AM  

What actually happened, in part, was that the censor-happiness of the SJW pissed off someone who was around at the birth of the consumer internet.

Way back in 1993 there was a serial murder trial in Canada that had a gag ordered imposed on it for political (and perhaps masonic) reasons. The internet was used to circumvent this, much to the embarassment of the lesbian socialist attorney general of Ontario at the time, and there was an IDENTICAL reaction from the converged press to Gamergate and later the Trump phenomenon.

Who knows, perhaps the same techniques were used to battle anti-drug propaganda and to get medical pot legal in some places.

You're welcome.

Blogger Matt Robison May 02, 2017 11:48 AM  

@50 Carlos Danger wrote:

"any chance that Castalia House will one day print traditional Christian friendly children's books? There is a big need for them and almost no one is publishing them anymore."


I've started writing them, but the only real way to do it is through Kickstarter right now. My first one was Princess Hiccup, which is inspired by more traditional fairy tales (the boy must go slay a dragon). It's "Christian" in the sense that reality itself is "Christian." Marketing stuff as "Christian" is a dead end though, as you get lost in all the Jesus-junk. I've had atheists read Princess Hiccup to their children and love it, partly because of the quality of the illustration work and story, but also, I think, because the archetypes resonate.

I'd love for you to check it out and let me know what you think. http://amzn.to/2psA3gn

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 12:03 PM  

@80 Grayman
"Speaking of tides turning on the left....

Its going to be hilarious to see them lose their minds when the whole segregation game gets turned back on them:

Students at Pomona College have published a letter demanding that administrators rescind their offer to hire Sociology Professor Alice Goffman because she’s white"

The stated reason for this opposition, of course, is that it is inappropriate for a white person to attempt to study/ analyze a black community.

This whole episode is comical on several levels, not least of which being that Goffman is actually (((white))). At another level, this attack is occurring despite her magnum opus, "On the Run," glorifying black inner-city thugs in West Philadelphia, and attempting to advance the interesting thesis that, essentially, ghetto blacks turn into criminals because the police arrest them when they commit crimes.

On yet another level, even a casual perusal of Goffman's masterwork raises the distinct possibility that her fascination with bad boys has an other-than-scientific basis. I wonder how much of the opposition to her appointment originates with black females? It might not be a political/ ideological issue, but a more primal one.

Blogger Sheila4g May 02, 2017 12:06 PM  

I slogged through the entire thing last night after linking from Amren, and started a lengthy comment which I accidentally deleted, after which I said the hell with it and went to bed. Although they at least explored the literary and cultural history of "cuckold," after they noted what the cuckoo bird does they totally dropped that strain of thought and ignorantly/deliberately ignored the word's primary insult re someone who raises someone else's young/civilization at the expense of his own. The series of articles went downhill from there. Just a toxic stew of lies, half truths, misrepresentations, casual smears, belittling, deliberate and/or obtuse bewilderment at something I {the least tech savvy/cool person imaginable} have been able to figure out by extensive reading at multiple sites over time. All they had to do was ask a few questions of some genuine Alt-Righters - there are those who would give them the time of day and explain a bit, but that would disrupt the overall tone.

Along with the Mohammedan's generous allowance that there might be some way to have a legitimate White identity on terms permissible by those who want all Whites dead, I was also struck by the Negro and Jewish writers explaining the perceived roots of the Alt-Right's "racism" and "anti-semitism." Among the usual quotes by the $PLC and Dyson comes the novel statement that the famed Enlightenment itself was racist, as are any concepts such as truth or objectivity - merely further ways to "marginalize" brilliant scholars like Tyson or Nell Painter. And then the wonderfully mournful plaint of Leon Wieseltier:

"What’s crushing to me about them is not that they’re all racist or anti-Semitic, because I don’t think that they all are, it’s that for none of them was racism or anti-Semitism a deal breaker."

Of course, he then consoles himself that this will exhaust itself in due time; "Populism always passes" he concludes. Then there's the obligatory mention of the KKK and how Christianity itself is indelibly tainted with White supremacy. And Steve Schmidt dutifully parrots Condi Rice's smear of America having a birth defect or original sin via slavery, and the pronouncement of anathema on any who will not accept Lincoln's proclamation that America was founded upon the "creed" of Jefferson's equality rhetoric.

I could go on but will spare everyone any further verbiage.

Blogger Sheila4g May 02, 2017 12:09 PM  

@76 Francis Parker Yockey: Many thanks for those links. I was unaware of the old book ban. While I'm not an active collector, I have a number of volumes I've picked up here and there, and avoid buying any text book or children's book published after the 1970s if I can help it. I'll have to be more proactive and aggressively seek out, buy, and preserve whatever older volumes I can.

Anonymous Warmaster May 02, 2017 12:12 PM  

Because then people might wonder about them and actually read them

5343, maybe that's true, but as someone else pointed out above, the alt-right isn't reading them either.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable May 02, 2017 12:15 PM  

5343, maybe that's true, but as someone else pointed out above, the alt-right isn't reading them either.

Agreed, but almost nobody of any political stripe reads much. So-called conservatives have no clue what Buckley wrote, and most progressives clearly don't understand the talking points they're recycling. So I'm not all that bothered if only 5 or 10% of the genuine Alt-Right has read the 16 points. The fact is, they exist, and if the Alt-Right lasts, they will circulate.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 02, 2017 12:20 PM  

VD wrote:Dumpster fires are just one of those things you have to look at on occasion.

Ah, an anklebiter. I see. Well, they certainly are sweet, aren't they.

Only if you dip them in boiling caramel.

Blogger OGRE May 02, 2017 12:20 PM  

After skimming through that word salad, the impression I can't help but receive is that it is a subconscious--or at least a highly veiled--call for controlling the internet. And I don't mean such as twitter-banning or youtube demonetization, but outright iron fist/central planning/boot-on-throat/government takeover of the internet. Something like needing an 'internet license' in order to post anything, and post the wrong thing and its taken away. That would be the dream of all the mainstream news organizations, and not just for political reasons.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 02, 2017 12:23 PM  

Speaking of which, shut up Scoobius.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 02, 2017 12:33 PM  


Not only do they not mention you, they don't mention the sixteen points. Makes me wonder how relevant you actually are.


@42 Warmaster
Or maybe they're just afraid of mentioning Lord Voxdemort's name.

Anonymous patrick kelly May 02, 2017 12:45 PM  

VD wrote:Not only do they not mention you, they don't mention the sixteen points. Makes me wonder how relevant you actually are.

Not at all, presumably. Why are you even here?


That's some 4D cruelty right there. I luv this blog.

Anonymous patrick kelly May 02, 2017 12:47 PM  

I wasn't even aware of the milk thing until they mentioned it.

Blogger Mocheirge May 02, 2017 12:51 PM  

Will commies ever notice that the reason for their "success" these last several decades is due to collusion by conservatives and a complete lack of opposition? Or are they so faith-blinded that they actually believe that conservatives are fighting against them and that they win because "social justice"?

Anonymous Edjamacator May 02, 2017 12:55 PM  

VD: "Guess whose name does not appear in a huge 20-part article on the Alt Right? Hint: he's the author of 16 Points of the Alt Right."

Of course not. Why take the chance that your readers will look the guy up, see the 16 points, realize the alt-right isn't just based on feelings, and actually have something logical, rational, thought-out, and (gasp!) realistic? Nope, just make the group sound incoherent and reactionary.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 02, 2017 12:56 PM  

@72 Rocklea

Rope shortages are gunna suck. Spit roasting will make up for it though.
---

I checked into "the five" yesterday and found myself chanting "Rope, Rope, Rope, Rope, Rope" every time Beckel was one

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 12:57 PM  

@97
I wasn't even aware of the milk thing until they mentioned it.

That's what you get for not watching LeBoef's livestream. It was usually boring leftard chanting with moments of pure Kek.

Especially at night, that's when the best stuff went down.
Like "da ol' skool Canarsy bros" in NYC or the Albuquerque bar bouncers & the guys with quarts of MILK at 2 AM, laughing as they chugged. Or the MAGA hat hoisted up the flagpole.

The best ones are still up on YouTube, I think. No way LeBouf and his pals anticipated that they were actually giving a free platform to ordinary, peeved, outspoken guys.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 02, 2017 1:11 PM  

This was my favorite one of the trolling of Shia Le***** stupid museum cam
https://youtu.be/Hnxqcb0mRcU

Blogger Were-Puppy May 02, 2017 1:16 PM  

I don't even think most of us have an idea the extent of change that is happening.

A couple days ago I got tired of politics and went back digging into some conspiracy theory stuff. I was surprised to find that a universal consciousness aliens vid was going on quite a bit about pizza gate and the good aliens were helping Trump and the reptillians were helping Hitlery! It almost got a REEEEEE out of me!

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 02, 2017 1:19 PM  

@88 Sheila 4G

"And then the wonderfully mournful plaint of Leon Wieseltier:
"What’s crushing to me about them is not that they’re all racist or anti-Semitic, because I don’t think that they all are, it’s that for none of them was racism or anti-Semitism a deal breaker." "

Good find. This IS wonderful-- because it's very revealing as to what they really fear. Reminds me of the first time that I saw a leftist in some comment section wistfully moaning "I thought you guys were going to try to explain how you weren't really racists."

This is the power of I. Don't. Care. We do not accept the way that you choose to frame the debate. We do not respect your taboos. We do not worship your gods. We do not fear your demons.

@89 You're welcome. I came across this years after it happened, and thought "Wait a minute. What are they really doing here?" One of the great things about the internet is that it has effectively resurrected many older books that were long out of print, by allowing distribution of scanned copies at zero marginal cost. But a pdf of a children's book just isn't the same.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 2:23 PM  

@104
Do hang onto as many of those books as you can. While a PDF may not be the same, 3-D printing is improving fast. Combine hi res image printing with 3-D object printing, a recreation could be possible.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 02, 2017 2:29 PM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Do hang onto as many of those books as you can. While a PDF may not be the same, 3-D printing is improving fast. Combine hi res image printing with 3-D object printing, a recreation could be possible.
AYFKM???
It's a BOOK. regular old 2-D printing works just fine. Anybody with 20 minutes to watch some youtube videos and $20 for supplies can take up bookbinding. I've made several myself. It's dead easy.

3-D printing a book, what's wrong with you?

Blogger Iron Spartan May 02, 2017 2:53 PM  

What I got out of that article was all the writers got together in a meeting and someone said "We are speaking the words of power, but they are failing more and more often. What can we do? If we lose the words of power, than we have nothing."

And the consensus was "We need to use them more often. That will surely work!"

Blogger tublecane May 02, 2017 2:55 PM  

The "I don't even get it" ploy won't work very well. Not regarding things that are easily comprehensible. I should know; I used to use that ploy a lot. It's not any better than pretending you thoroughly understand something you only learned the existence of half a second before. What if someone who knows better passes by and makes you look like a boob? The MSM is constantly being made to look the boob lately.

Articles like this are intended to discourage people taking easy steps to comprehend the alt-right, of course. The MSM is hoping no one bothers, and every little bit of discouragement helps. But what happens when your readership knows more than you, in your willful ignorance, stupidity, laziness, etc.? There's a huge credibility gap between the MSM and regular people on a variety of topics, internet memes being a prime example. They aren't like reading High German Romantic Philosophy. Anyone can get them.

As regards the milk, I don't know where that came from. My guess is that it's a joke at the expense of PC. I've read innumerable variations on the Unbearable Whiteness of [Blank] theme recently including the unbearable whiteness of milk. SJWs are physically incapable of shying away from anything--anything!--that can be negatively associated with whiteness. Milk is an obvious candidate because it actually is white. Either milk is bad because it's white, or white people are bad for "colonizing" milk consumption, or it's unfortunate that nonwhites are discouraged from their rightful enjoyment of milk, or whatever.

That's how silly PC-ism has become. Like I said, I don't know the origin of the milk thing as described in this article, but I wouldn't be surprised if alt-rightists were playing off of the Milk So White themes floating around in our culture. They often mock the opposition by taking their ideas and running with them (agree and amplify) to absurd lengths. Criticizing such humor as absurd is missing the point: it's supposed to be absurd. It's absurdist humor.

This article is essentially saying "I don't get the alt-right's jokes. It's almost as if they're jokes, or something." The proper response would be to ignore such humor or fight it with humor of your own. But the left that writes articles like these isn't funny, and wouldn't know how to be.

The funny left is increasingly unfunny as well. I think mainstream humor is stuck in a rut. But at least it's in the game.

Anonymous Mortal Man May 02, 2017 2:56 PM  

That article was akin to asking a Muslim who had never met a Jew to explain what it means to be jewish or a member of the U.S. Cavalry circa 1870 who had never talked to an American Indian what its like to be an American Indian.

Blogger J Van Stry May 02, 2017 3:13 PM  

The biggest and most important statement to come out of the entire alt-right movement:

SHOOT LEFT.

Nothing is more important than that right now. Live it, breath it, be it.

Blogger Roger Hill May 02, 2017 5:14 PM  

How did I miss that version of the 16? I think I just spent my whole ration of laughs for the week!

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 6:42 PM  

@106 Snidely
It's a BOOK. regular old 2-D printing works just fine.

Perhaps you should try reading the comment I replied to?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 02, 2017 6:45 PM  

@108
The "I don't even get it" ploy won't work very well.

It's what old people say to those darn kids, right before hollering "Get off my lawn!".

Blogger Kentucky Packrat May 02, 2017 10:15 PM  

Carlos Danger wrote:Vox:

any chance that Castalia House will one day print traditional Christian friendly children's books? There is a big need for them and almost no one is publishing them anymore.


I know that Matt Robison posted his experience, but I'll reiterate our hosts' own thoughts: If you think you see a need, fill it yourself. I started a self-publishing business because there wasn't a scholarly Hebrew Bible under $100. Other than early typesetting work as a proof of concept, I went from 0 to printed copies in less than three months, and that was before it was realistic to print straight from Amazon. I never made much off it, but I did notice two years later there were new copies of the BHS on sale for $30 (now $19), less than mine were priced for. My fault? Don't care, my goal was met.

If you can't write, find a writer who will take a per-unit royalty. If you can't draw or paint, get an artist to do so as well. Put the book together and get it out there. There is no use waiting for someone else to do it these days, just do it yourself. Even if you fail, you might inspire someone else to succeed.

Anonymous Walter May 03, 2017 12:00 AM  

I always find that Trump picture so cool

Blogger John Wright May 03, 2017 3:06 AM  

"porn-loving gender traditionalists"

I think this is the oddest description of romantics, Christians and all normal people opposed to unnatural sexual acts I have ever heard. It is more Orwellian than Orwell.

Whatever devil in The Lowerarchy inspired that bit of convolution abuse of the divine gift of speech merited his paycheck from Uncle Screwtape this month, for sure.

Blogger wreckage May 03, 2017 4:46 AM  

@116 Everyone knows that if you believe gender is or can exist objectively, you're a porn fiend. For example, the statisticians that work out average height figures, which in turn show sexual dimorphism in humans, are notorious for their obsession with girl-on-girl. Every last one of them!

Blogger wreckage May 03, 2017 4:46 AM  

And it goes without saying that that disproves the existence of sexual dimorphism in humans.

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