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Thursday, May 11, 2017

The man who destroyed America

The reason white working-class Americans no longer recognize their country is because it is no longer their country. This isn't that hard. A society is made up of the people who inhabit it. It is not some sort of immutable structure that molds people into something else; the reason non-Romans in Rome behave like Romans is because they are heavily outnumbered and they don't wish to draw Roman attention to themselves. Once they are numerous enough that they feel they can influence, or worse, "improve" the society they have invaded, they will change it from what it was before.

This is neither difficult nor debatable. Pour milk in your coffee and you can see the same process at work. Pour enough milk into it and it ceases to be coffee and starts to become milk.
  • Nearly two-thirds (65%) of white working-class Americans believe American culture and way of life has deteriorated since the 1950s.
  • Nearly half (48%) of white working-class Americans say, “things have changed so much that I often feel like a stranger in my own country.”
  • Nearly seven in ten (68%) white working-class Americans believe the American way of life needs to be protected from foreign influence. In contrast, fewer than half (44%) of white college-educated Americans express this view.
  • Nearly seven in ten (68%) white working-class Americans—along with a majority (55%) of the public overall—believe the U.S. is in danger of losing its culture and identity.
  • More than six in ten (62%) white working-class Americans believe the growing number of newcomers from other countries threatens American culture, while three in ten (30%) say these newcomers strengthen society.

That isn't a graph of "the changing face of America". That is a graph of America being transformed into Not-America, all thanks to one man, Emanuel Celler.
Celler made his first important speech on the House floor during consideration of the Johnson Immigration Act of 1924. Three years earlier, Congress had imposed a quota that limited immigration for persons of any nationality to 3 percent of that nationality present in the United States in 1910, with an annual admission limit of 356,000 immigrants. This national origin system was structured to preserve the ethnic and religious identity of the United States by reducing immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe, thereby excluding many Jews, Catholics, Italians, and others. Celler was vehemently opposed to the Johnson act, which passed the isolationist Congress and was signed into law. Celler had found his cause and for the next four decades he vigorously spoke out in favor of eliminating the national origin quotas as a basis for immigration restriction.

As Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee from 1949 to 1973 (except for a break from when the Republicans controlled the House), Celler was involved in drafting and passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Civil Rights Act of 1968 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In January 1965, Celler proposed in the House of Representatives the Twenty-fifth Amendment, which clarifies an ambiguous provision of the Constitution regarding succession to the presidency. Also in 1965, he proposed and steered to passage the Hart-Celler Act, which eliminated national origins as a consideration for immigration. This was the culminating moment in Celler's 41-year fight to overcome restriction on immigration to the United States based on national origin.
Note that he was a third-generation immigrant. Celler is an excellent demonstration of why God considers immigrants to be a curse upon the land, and why they and their descendants should never be permitted to participate in the political process in any society that wishes to maintain its national identity. Consider:

Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there.
- Genesis 15:13

After 400 years, the immigrants to Egypt were still not Egyptians.

The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers.
- Leviticus 25:23

Immigrants reside in the land as foreigners and strangers. There is no Magic Dirt transforming them into natives.

May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
- Psalm 109:11

Debt and immigrant capitalists are literal curses.

Strangers will shepherd your flocks; foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
- Isaiah 61:5

No doubt doing the jobs that the natives won't do. Isn't it remarkable how what is happening today was described so accurately several thousand years ago, when scientists can't manage to make a simple temperature prediction ten years in advance.

Our inheritance has been turned over to strangers, our homes to foreigners.
- Lamentations 5:2

Immigration and the economic benefits they supposedly bring are a literal Biblical lamentation.

“It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
- Matthew 15:26

A nation exists for the benefit of its children. Not for the benefit of strangers, foreigners, and immigrants. No wonder Europe's childless leaders don't give a damn about their nations. And if there is one core lesson of history, it is this: work your own damn fields.

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Blogger JP May 11, 2017 5:44 AM  

The Spaniards were welcoming to the Jews until the Muslims arrived. Then they saw firsthand that diversity was not a strength.

A house divided cannot stand.

Blogger JACIII May 11, 2017 5:44 AM  

There is nothing new under the sun.

The mexicans are just doing the jobs Americans won't do.
The persians doing the jobs the Greeks wouldn't do.

The turks doing the jobs the Georgians wouldn't do.

The gauls doing the jobs the Romans wouldn't do.

(Thanks infopedia!)

Blogger ZhukovG May 11, 2017 5:51 AM  

So a person with a Jewish/Catholic background was instrumental in setting up the current situation. A situation which unfortunately has only one end.

As a Roman Catholic, I have to suggest that in whatever future the United States, or its successor states possess, Jews and Catholics(or rather traditional Catholic ethnic identities) should not be permitted to vote; ever.

Yes, some 'good' people might be hurt, but what is that compared to the damage these two groups have wrought.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore May 11, 2017 6:13 AM  

I promise to read the entire article but something stopped me in my tracks, the milk and coffee analogy. This was used by Malcolm X before he transitioned from "Minister Malcolm" to "El Hajj Malik"; from an anti-integrationist Black nationalist/ localist to an internationalist seduced by socialism. If you remember, Public Enemy sampled the "Too Black, Too Strong" quote from this speech for their debut single.

Blogger Lovekraft May 11, 2017 6:13 AM  

How much chocolate syrup do you add to milk before it no longer resembles milk?

fify

Blogger JACIII May 11, 2017 6:13 AM  

We paid for the Irish invasion with ~640,000 military dead in the 1860's. Didn't learn a thing.

Makes one appreciate the British perspective for starving them out.

Anonymous Rocklea May 11, 2017 6:13 AM  

VD wrote:
"And if there is one core lesson of history, it is this: work your own damn fields."

In Australia, we have backpackers to do that. And, turtles, caravaning gray nomads.

Blogger Lovekraft May 11, 2017 6:16 AM  

From post: "Debt and immigrant capitalists are literal curses."

Up here in Canuckistan, Ontario and various other provinces have these quasi-judicial taxpayer-funded 'Human Rights Tribunals.'

They're Orwellian in nature and anti-West/white/Christian.

I heard they're behind the latest soft-jihad campaign to make criticism of the Religion of Peace illegal.

Down the line, we will be hearing more stories similar to TR's 4am visit by the gestapo.

Blogger Antony May 11, 2017 6:23 AM  

Slightly ot - but for those who have never heard of him, here is Martin Willett's new vid Just A (((coincidence))) ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE7opZRg3Zs&feature=em-uploademail

Anonymous Anonymous May 11, 2017 6:29 AM  

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/the-jewish-origins-of-multiculturalism-in-sweden/

Sounds like David Schwarz in ����

Blogger Shimshon May 11, 2017 6:32 AM  

Can't wait for the sequel.

The Man Who Made America Great Again

And if it's a comedy:

The Man Who Made America Great, Again

Blogger Stilicho May 11, 2017 6:34 AM  

Pick your own damned cotton!

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 11, 2017 6:36 AM  

Stilicho wrote:Pick your own damned cotton!

US has certainly paid a heavy price for failing to do that.

But when it comes to advising men to plough their own field, for some reason the word "cuck" came to my mind ...

Blogger For 8 billion, sparky should have bought a hawter asian. May 11, 2017 6:50 AM  

No mention of loans from rootless cosmopolitans who funded the South (and also the North) as a means to weaken the US through civil war in order to get the private bank?

No mention of which international, family-based trading networks were to be most impacted by abolition of slavery?

Just: "Mick turns up so huge death toll". Paddy might have been an illiterate peasant spud farmer but the magic soil turned him into a civil war instigator, domnating those big brained, monied WASPs through Popish mind rays.

It's almost as if your predjuidice has blinded you a little.

Blogger American Spartan May 11, 2017 6:54 AM  

Vox, your posts on Immigration do nothing but prove everything I have thought on the issue was right to begin with.

How do you see the Supreme Court ruling on the issues of immigration and the activist court`s actions against Trump?

Time line and rulings predictions on it?

Also what is your take on Matt Barkken`s preview of upcoming book?

http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/12/bastille-day-in-the-caliphate/

Anonymous the management May 11, 2017 7:00 AM  

For 8 billion, sparky should have bought a hawter asian. wrote:No mention of loans from rootless cosmopolitans who funded the South (and also the North) as a means to weaken the US through civil war in order to get the private bank?

No mention of which international, family-based trading networks were to be most impacted by abolition of slavery?

Just: "Mick turns up so huge death toll". Paddy might have been an illiterate peasant spud farmer but the magic soil turned him into a civil war instigator, domnating those big brained, monied WASPs through Popish mind rays.

It's almost as if your predjuidice has blinded you a little.


You beat me to it... only a few comments into a thread on Jewish influence over immigration policy, and the Irish hijack comes into play.

It's like a (((pattern))) or something.

Blogger Vikki Wilson May 11, 2017 7:09 AM  

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Blogger Vikki Wilson May 11, 2017 7:11 AM  

Deracination

May 11, 2017 7:09 AM  
But Vox, is there any doubt that Celler's role would be proudly taken up by any number of natives similarly marinated in the ideals of that time.

Is there much difference between the Advanced Thinkers - native or immigrant ?

Blogger Sam May 11, 2017 7:12 AM  

@3
Well 15 and 16 covered the obvious (Irish responsible for municipal corruption, they don't rot out societies), but I should point out 'no Catholics' isn't exactly accurate. We either go 'Anglo-Saxon center' (so Protestantism doesn't work as a dividing line) or Hagnal so Northern Italians and Northern Spaniards are in.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler May 11, 2017 7:15 AM  

It was President John F. Kennedy that pushed for the overturning of the 1952 Nationalities Act. When he was assassinated, his brother Robert Kennedy continued the project. When Robert was assassinated, Ted Kennedy took up the project and furthered the wide expansion of the 1965 Immigration Act.

All Irish.

And we know the Irish hate the Anglo-Saxons. The Irish have no love for the English.

So Again, Race matters. What do Celts have to do with Anglo-Saxon culture?

Blogger Sam May 11, 2017 7:20 AM  

(note- is Jew)

@18
It is hard to tell which is the problem with antisemitism. Either the problem is Jews (so you need to focus on them), the problem is civilizational/ideological (and Jews are just really good at self-promotion and getting in charge of social trends so focusing on them is counter-productive) or the problem is any significant amount of diversity (which causes individuals to be alienated from the host society and more willing to engage in behaviors damaging to it).

That said there is differences between Advanced Thinkers depending on ethnicity- take a look at the difference between 1st wave feminism, 2nd wave feminism, 3rd wave feminism and Scandinavian feminism. 2nd wave feminism is a Jewish female enterprise.

Blogger Sam May 11, 2017 7:24 AM  

@20
Presumably they wanted to import more Irish voters. Irish politicians benefit from importing them because they will vote for Irish politicians. That does not translate into flooding the country with Mexicans and Africans; that is good for the Democrats as a whole, but bad for Irish Democrats (since they will make up a smaller portion of the party).

Anonymous Rocklea May 11, 2017 7:37 AM  

IIRC, in Australia, by 2030, 1/3 of all Australians will foreign born, or of foreign born descent. By 2050, again, IIRC, white European descent will be less than 50%. We were founded by the Britains, mostly English, Irish, Scottish. Since 1949 we have had 5 million immigrants and our current population is under 24 million. Lots of space, water is an issue, as is infrastructure. Were we to stop immigration, I doubt the numbers would change much, mostly due to Boomer expiration.

The current governments policy is to keep immigration going, as near as I can tell, to prop up real estate prices.

Actually I just got this from Infogalactic(a great site you should check it out;)):
At the 2011 census, 53.7% of people had both parents born in Australia and 34.3% of people had both parents born overseas.

It appears as though Australia is the proto Proposition nation, that is, in the sense that we are very far advanced down the multi culti path. The White Australia policy ended in 1973. It's hard to imagine the federation surviving with so many nations within nations. Identity politics are a given.

Anonymous Simplytimothy May 11, 2017 7:44 AM  

Superb post. Thank you

Blogger Johnny May 11, 2017 7:46 AM  

@20 >>So Again, Race matters. What do Celts have to do with Anglo-Saxon culture?

To ask a question in the chance event somebody may be able to answer it, to what extent is there a race divide in the British class system between the majority (biologically Celtic) people and the Anglo-Saxon (Germanic) invaders?

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 7:47 AM  

But Vox, is there any doubt that Celler's role would be proudly taken up by any number of natives similarly marinated in the ideals of that time.

Yes, certainly. It took the man 40 years. There is zero chance that his place could have been taken by a generic native. It was the man's life work. For good or ill, at least give him credit for it.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 7:59 AM  

It is hard to tell which is the problem with antisemitism.

There is no "problem" with antisemitism, except of course for the Jews. Antisemitism is a perfectly rational position for most societies. History clearly demonstrates that antisemitism is beneficial to a nation if it helps prevent Jews from invading that nation and subverting its government "for the good of the Jews". See: Spain, England, France, and Russia, all of which greatly benefited from expelling the Jews.

Furthermore, the rapid decline of the USA demonstrates that anti-antisemitism has been extremely detrimental to it.

That being said, the core problem is most certainly NOT the Jews. They are merely doing what all self-interested groups do, albeit with great short-term success and relatively poor long-term success. The core problem is diversity and heterogeneous societies. Both the Jews and the antisemites are fundamentally operating on a false premise; they both believe that a low-trust group repeatedly taking nepotistic advantage of various high-trust groups indicates intrinsic superior competitiveness. But that is a mere artifact of historical geography.

The ongoing clash between Chinese and Jewish interests is going to correct that mistake. And exchanging the Chinese for the Jews as most politically influential minority is not going to benefit the USA in the least.

Blogger Alexandros May 11, 2017 7:59 AM  

Just curious what the optimal solution is for natives dealing with people already here in a best-case scenario where we don't start a race war.

Unless I don't understand, if a 4th generation guy is still cancerous, what can be done save kick them all out? I'm thinking mostly of europeans who came in, but I suppose the bigger problem is the non-europeans.

Then again, this all presupposes that the sons and daughters of the american revolution even have the will to fight back.

Other people have mentioned revoking the right to vote to non-british progency (catholic, .etc), but is that even enough?

Dang, this is depressing. Even if the solution is in sight, people won't take it.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 8:02 AM  

less I don't understand, if a 4th generation guy is still cancerous, what can be done save kick them all out? I'm thinking mostly of europeans who came in, but I suppose the bigger problem is the non-europeans.

Break up the state. Give them land to call their own. That's the usual historical solution. And that is what will happen in the USA, because there is no stomach for ethnic cleansing, except for the Mexicans and the Chinese.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler May 11, 2017 8:05 AM  

@25

When the Angles and the Saxons invaded Britain, the Bretons, the indigenous people, fled their homeland and went to Brittany in France. In the 11th Century, the Normans, a Teutonic race, invaded England and suppressed the Anglo-Saxons, another Teutonic tribes, creating a class society.

It is the racial trait of Indo-Europeans to create caste societies. The Dorians did it. The Normans in England and the Anglo-Saxons in the American South did it. It is natural. The European mind centers around order and trifunctionality. I point to Georges Dumezil. The Bretons are Celts.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 8:09 AM  

An reply argument made by liberals and cucks would be that pre-1960 America was racist, sexist, anti-semitic and homophobic. The libs would add islamaphobia to the mix, too.

The issue is: what kind of society do you prefer? Alt-rightists prefer a coherent, homogenous and ethical society. Modern-day liberals deify equality, inclusion and non-discrimination against all (except white male heterosexual Christians) as the guiding principles of our society. Character doesn't count - remember back in the 1990s when people defended Bill Clinton's womanizing by saying that character didn't matter, only competence? Hillary rode the non-discrimination pony and even her supporters admitted that she was a horrible and corrupt woman. Donald Trump promoted women to high positions within his organization yet continues to be condemed for some vulgar remarks he made in private.

Anonymous Rocklea May 11, 2017 8:10 AM  

Genetic testing and segregation, DMZ's and a cessation of international free trade. It's more in line with natural law and does a lot to solve the issue of money and war.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 8:15 AM  

Despite a B.A. in microbiology and an M.S. in biology, I must be working class after all. No wonder I didn't get along with the GoodWhite SWPL's at Colloquy Society.

Audacious Epigone's insight into who claims to believe what makes me ask a question: Are "working class" people simply slightly more prone to say what they think, while their so-called "betters" (((and betters))) can recite the Equalist Dogma in their sleep?

Governing by what people SAY vs governing by what people DO. No wonder this Adventure promises to go Poseidon.

PS: The theme of "let those working class whites die off" is Pol Pot through-and-through. Those who espouse this view should be treated accordingly.

Anonymous Rocklea May 11, 2017 8:19 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:
"PS: The theme of "let those working class whites die off" is Pol Pot through-and-through. Those who espouse this view should be treated accordingly."

You mean given a country and a free hand?;)

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 8:20 AM  

W. Lindsay Wheeler wrote:@25

When the Angles and the Saxons invaded Britain, the Bretons, the indigenous people, fled their homeland and went to Brittany in France. In the 11th Century, the Normans, a Teutonic race, invaded England and suppressed the Anglo-Saxons, another Teutonic tribes, creating a class society.

It is the racial trait of Indo-Europeans to create caste societies. The Dorians did it. The Normans in England and the Anglo-Saxons in the American South did it. It is natural. The European mind centers around order and trifunctionality. I point to Georges Dumezil. The Bretons are Celts.


The Normans eventually also intermarried with the Saxons, lost their French possessions, spoke English amongst themselves instead of French, dropped the "de" prefixes before their surnames and assimilated into English society.

In a heterogenous society, a caste system works because it minimizes competition and friction between different groups. This group fills this economic niche, that group fills a different niche, etc. For example, at one time in Malaysia, the Chinese were business owners, the Indians were professionals and Malaysians were government, farmers and military.

Anonymous Bobby Farr May 11, 2017 8:22 AM  

Funnily enough, after decades in Congress, he was unseated by an even more extreme leftist, who combined Celler's hatred for America and love of open borders with feminist positions.

There is nothing profound or surprising about an outsider working to change and destroy his host society. The disconcerting fact is that a mere representative of a migrant slum was able to do so much to undermine a country with (relatively) sound demographics. Neither foreign voters nor liberal Boomers can be blamed for legislation passed in 1965.

Blogger Sam Spade May 11, 2017 8:27 AM  

I'm catholic but not practicant since I was a kid.Lately, between you and Jordan Peterson are making me get closer to be Christian and believe again.

Blogger kennymac May 11, 2017 8:28 AM  

Really? The Irish started the Civi War?

Blogger J.M. May 11, 2017 8:29 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:So a person with a Jewish/Catholic background was instrumental in setting up the current situation. A situation which unfortunately has only one end.

As a Roman Catholic, I have to suggest that in whatever future the United States, or its successor states possess, Jews and Catholics(or rather traditional Catholic ethnic identities) should not be permitted to vote; ever.

Yes, some 'good' people might be hurt, but what is that compared to the damage these two groups have wrought.


Besides the fact that you are not a real Roman Catholic if you think that, your post denotes ignorance. The last time I checked, Catholics were not the ones who destroyed the Union as it was envisioned by the Founding Fathers; I don't remember Lincoln was a devote "papist". It wasn't catholics who got the U.S. into WWI which led to WWII and the destruction of Christian civilization in Europe. Hell it wasn't Catholics who opened the doors to the first waves of emigration from Europe in the 1800s. Moreover despite its problems with immigration U.S. is still, for the time being, the freest of the Anglosphere societies despite the fact (or due to it?) that is the least English of them (until fairly recently neither the UK, AU, NZ or even CA had significant non-brittish populations, however in most if not all of them you can't bear weapons, all of them became PC feminist dictatorships in practice well before the mass migrations began, etc.).

But I guess rhetoric beats reasoning...

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 8:32 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Despite a B.A. in microbiology and an M.S. in biology, I must be working class after all. No wonder I didn't get along with the GoodWhite SWPL's at Colloquy Society.

Audacious Epigone's insight into who claims to believe what makes me ask a question: Are "working class" people simply slightly more prone to say what they think, while their so-called "betters" (((and betters))) can recite the Equalist Dogma in their sleep?

Governing by what people SAY vs governing by what people DO. No wonder this Adventure promises to go Poseidon.

PS: The theme of "let those working class whites die off" is Pol Pot through-and-through. Those who espouse this view should be treated accordingly.


The purpose of a college education, Joe Sobran opined, is to give you the correct view of minorities, and the means to live as far away from them as possible. I once remarked to a Jewish friend that one of reasons why Jews were liberal was because they tend to be affluent and so can escape the consequences of their purported idealism. She agreed with me.

Watch what people do, not what they say.

It's easy to blubber about the poor and oppressed when they live far away and you don't deal with them. Cucks do this, too. For example, they blame the schools and teachers' unions for widespread black failure, not the kids themselves. I have a girlfriend who used to teach in an all-black middle school in Akron, Ohio, and she certainly was redpilled about inner city blacks. It infuriates her when she, as a teacher, is blamed for student failure.

Blogger James Dixon May 11, 2017 8:32 AM  

> ...because there is no stomach for ethnic cleansing, except for the Mexicans and the Chinese.

Vox, are you so quickly forgetting the history of your people? We've done ethnic cleansing before. I wouldn't be so quick to write it off as a possibility.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 11, 2017 8:33 AM  

VD wrote:Furthermore, the rapid decline of the USA demonstrates that anti-antisemitism has been extremely detrimental to it.



I always love it when the "conservatives" talk about how God has blessed the US for being Israel's BFF.

Then when you point out that everything else they rant about being wrong with America came about after we started rolling over for Israel and the Jews during the regime of LBJ it throws them into fits. Or ask them if Clinton and Obama were God blessing us for Israel's sake.

Blogger J.M. May 11, 2017 8:36 AM  

I understand that your focus is on immigration (despite the fact that is a symptom of a larger problem) but here you are just twisting the interpretation Vox, and call me idiot if you like.

The fact remains that even God set guidelines for integration of immigrants in the old Israel, certain groups could be assimilated, others not even until the 10th generation and others were never to be accepted on account of their hostility to Israel besides those who were slated for extermination in Canaan.


Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 22:21)

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. (Leviticus 19:33)

Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow. (Deuteronomy 27:19)

Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge. (Deuteronomy 24:17)

“No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of them may enter the assembly of the Lord forever, 4 lbecause they did not meet you with bread and with water on the way, when you came out of Egypt, and because they mhired against you Balaam the son of Beor from Pethor of nMesopotamia, to curse you. 5 But the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam; instead the Lord your God turned othe curse into a blessing for you, because the Lord your God loved you. 6 You pshall not seek their peace or their prosperity all your days forever.

7 “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because ryou were a sojourner in his land. 8 Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the Lord. Deuteronomy 23


If I am not mistaken, what the Bible depicts as curses is not immigration itself but oppression by foreigners, always the result of disobedience to God's law. Moreover foreign oppression can happen also without immigration (military invasion).

Are you really going to argue that the former Christian nations followed the advise of the Bible or Saint Thomas regarding immigration? If anything our problems in this regard are due to ignoring their wise advice...

Blogger James Dixon May 11, 2017 8:36 AM  

> You mean given a country and a free hand?;)

I have no problem with that. Antarctica is available.

> But I guess rhetoric beats reasoning...

For most people? Yes, it does.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 8:40 AM  

@29 Vox Day,
Break up the state. Give them land to call their own. That's the usual historical solution.

Ironically, this is (sort of) in line with libertarian political philosophy (which is why it retains superficial attractiveness.)

Mises pointed out that the essence of his thought on a political level was secession (take to its extreme, to the level of the individual.)

In reality, to me it looks like as social mood waxes higher, people of increasing differences coalesce into ever-larger socio-political groupings (due to herding-driven rising trust and willingness to tolerate ever-larger differences.)

As social mood falls, the differences between people, previously tolerable, become intolerably abrasive. Molehills become mountains, then cause celebres.

We're near the peak (possibly slightly beyond it) of a multi-century rise in social mood, capped by the greatest social mood mania in recorded history. This is the only explanation extant (as I see it) for the UTTER INSANITY we see, from the literally suicidal Blank Slatism of David Ruenzel, Amy Biehl and many thousands of others to enshrining in law enabling of behavioral aberration (AKA mental illness) of insisting belief trumps biological reality (i.e., that "gender" and "biological sex" are two different things.)

Societies have attempted to pull off this kind of mass insanity before, but NEVER to this extent. The feedback loop of human ingenuity, amplified by science and technology that mimics magic (and is, for all practical purposes magic in the minds of essentially all humans) provided ROCKET FUEL for the rising folie a plusiers we've experienced.

The only conclusion is that for the foreseeable future, people will move from this massive, muddy middle (single circle in the Venn Diagram) to identification with ever smaller groups, whose borders form metaphorical and eventually literal war zones.

When we do see the end of this process (I doubt anyone alive today will see the final low in the series of down-up-down-up-down waves with it) the world will be less populous and full of much, much smaller political entities, each of them homogeneous on many scales we can't now imagine (race, ethnicity and religion will be but three of a far larger number of measures used to in-group.)

It's a paradox: People think nuclear weapons all but eliminate the prospects for world war, when in fact, world war this time around will be fought street by street.

Anonymous VFM #6306 May 11, 2017 8:40 AM  

J.M. Catholics are immigrants whose influence was opposed by nearly all of the Founders. Eventually things changed to JFK.

Blogger Azimus May 11, 2017 8:44 AM  

It would be interesting to see that chart cut one level finer and show immigrants as well as native-born...

Blogger Phat Repat May 11, 2017 8:54 AM  

@29 VD wrote:
Break up the state. Give them land to call their own. That's the usual historical solution. And that is what will happen in the USA, because there is no stomach for ethnic cleansing, except for the Mexicans and the Chinese.

Nope, break it up, they are still in close proximity. War will be the only solution for a lasting peace. It didn't have to be this way, but it did.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 8:56 AM  

@40 Elizabeth It infuriates her when she, as a teacher, is blamed for student failure.


"Village" thinking is universal. My wife's 4th grade classes are at least 80% white still, so her views have less to do with color than more general genetics. Literally a third of her 10-year-old students now will never be able to hold a job, so dysfunctional are they (and the parents who produced them. Idiocracy is not a comedy.)

The premise that blacks are the same as whites and the premise that intelligence (or, more appropriately Life Success) is NOT primarily genetic are really one in the same: People are all the same clay beneath the skin, and therefore the only reason all people are not above average (chuckle) is failure of "the rules" or failure of "implementation."

Holding teachers accountable for not turning sow's ears into silk purses follows directly from this stupidity. Every moronic fad has to have scapegoats, because otherwise the people espousing the fad would be forced to confront their error.

We can't have that.

PS: OT--- Idiocracy takes a giant step closer to being a documentary.

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 8:56 AM  

(note- dated my fair share of jews)

How much chocolate syrup do you add to milk before it no longer resembles milk?

How much rat poison can you cut cocaine with before Joe Biden's son won't snort it? Just a rhetorical question ;)

Pick your own damned cotton! US has certainly paid a heavy price for failing to do that.

incredibly heavy, blacks brought hookworm with them from Africa and are more resistant to the parasite than whites. Freezing weather breaks the life cycle so the north wasn't affected. All the symptoms are the same as southern stereotypes.
https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/body-horrors-blood-money-hookworm-economics-postbellum-south/

How do you see the Supreme Court ruling on the issues of immigration and the activist court`s actions against Trump?

I can tell what the wide latrina will say.

Jews are just really good at self-promotion and getting in charge of social trends so focusing on them is counter-productive)

They go after gatekeeper positions even before the Spanish inquisition. While doing a series of travel 13 week contract jobs I noticed a Soros paid jewish lesbian gatekeeper that maintained the narrative in each die verse city. It was like running into the clone base control brothers in Agents Of Shield.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 9:03 AM  

The last time I checked, Catholics were not the ones who destroyed the Union as it was envisioned by the Founding Fathers

You're wrong. The Irish Catholics, and to a lesser extent, the Italian Catholics, were important allies to the Jews in dismantling the historical English Protestant American nation.

People need to stop being butthurt and denying history due to their identity. You don't weaken my case when you do that. You underline it.

I understand that your focus is on immigration (despite the fact that is a symptom of a larger problem) but here you are just twisting the interpretation Vox, and call me idiot if you like.

I'm not twisting anything. You are trying to switch "hospitality" for "full citizenship rights". Stop cucking and being dishonest. What was the "rule" that prevented the Israelites from becoming Egyptians in 400 years?

If I am not mistaken, what the Bible depicts as curses is not immigration itself but oppression by foreigners, always the result of disobedience to God's law.

You are utterly mistaken. Mass immigration is always a curse for the native people; this is both solid history and solid theology. Moreover, you are implicitly assuming that the USA is not being cursed by disobedience to God's Law despite suffering the largest invasion of foreigners in human history.

Perhaps it is the wages of abortion. I don't know, I merely observe.

Blogger Phat Repat May 11, 2017 9:07 AM  

Was interesting that Sicko De Mayo was so sedate this year. I wonder what happened? Used to be splashed all over the TV; miss those days, not-americans preening and prancing. No way we escape this without War, well deserved.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 9:12 AM  

Really? The Irish started the Civil War?

No, they merely helped the North to win it. Over 200,000 Irish-born men, about 10 percent of the Union Army, served in it. More than 20 percent of the Union Navy was Irish-born.

Blogger Johnny May 11, 2017 9:18 AM  

May 11, 2017 8:55 AM
@43 J.M.

Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 22:21)

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. (Leviticus 19:33)

Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow. (Deuteronomy 27:19)

Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge. (Deuteronomy 24:17


Note in the above quotes that there is no assumption of integration. Plus while Canaan (southern Israel or the Judah territory actually) was a polygut, the word foreigner was generally used to mean somebody who was not from the region, not the indigenous minorities who at this point had apparently been either driven off or adsorbed. Thus we are dealing with small numbers of people.

Or in to restate it with other words, sojourners should be treated fairly. A reasonable idea.

(Or to quote VD: [switching from] "hospitality" for "full citizenship rights")


Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 9:21 AM  

Speaking of belief in magic, can't we distill every single public policy SNAFU to this? The last 100 years witnessed a decline in Christian belief, but what replaced it?

Belief in magic, often simply labeled "science."

200 years ago Christians attributed differences between peoples as God's Will, God's Plan, or something similar. It was a rising belief in Man's Magic, extrapolated from the real growth of technological marvels and elucidation of libraries' worth of knowledge in physics, chemistry and biology, that let people embrace a NO LIMITS on WHAT WE CAN DO fad.

Once again, we see a return to the core problem. A record-setting social mood mania required a mania-sized rationalization, and that became "man-as-god."

None of us knows an individual man who is a god, but deep down inside we sort of believe that the people who win Nobel Prizes in the sciences (plus carnival barkers like Gates, Musk, Bezos, etc.) are somehow collective gods.

And when one of those in the Pantheon utters blasphemy, the mob acts as white-cell phagocytes to cluster and destroy such pathogenic thought.

It's turtles...all the way down.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 11, 2017 9:25 AM  

"As a Roman Catholic, I have to suggest that in whatever future the United States, or its successor states possess, Jews and Catholics(or rather traditional Catholic ethnic identities) should not be permitted to vote; ever."

Besides the fact that you are not a real Roman Catholic if you think that,


That's just dumb. There's nothing in Catholic doctrine that requires one to vote, or to support the concept of voting at all. If anything, Catholics should be more disposed to limited monarchy than to mass democracy.

I'd gladly live as a Catholic in a land where only land-owning, white, Protestant men are allowed to vote, because I can look at the polls and see what kind of country they would vote for -- an excellent one. Sure, there's the possibility they would also vote to ban Catholicism at some point. That seems unlikely at this point in history, but if that happened, we'd deal with it. That'd be better than letting everyone vote to burn everything down.

But as Vox says, the likeliest positive outcome would be a breakup into multiple states, at which point perhaps one or more would be Catholic. If the States had never combined into the USA in the first place, but had remained a loose confederation of states, perhaps Maryland and a couple others would still be Catholic, while most would be Protestant, some more "intense" about it than others. Think about how much harder it would have been for Celler and friends to do their damage in that scenario of multiple smaller, more internally homogeneous states.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 9:34 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:@40 Elizabeth It infuriates her when she, as a teacher, is blamed for student failure.



"Village" thinking is universal. My wife's 4th grade classes are at least 80% white still, so her views have less to do with color than more general genetics. Literally a third of her 10-year-old students now will never be able to hold a job, so dysfunctional are they (and the parents who produced them. Idiocracy is not a comedy.)

The premise that blacks are the same as whites and the premise that intelligence (or, more appropriately Life Success) is NOT primarily genetic are really one in the same: People are all the same clay beneath the skin, and therefore the only reason all people are not above average (chuckle) is failure of "the rules" or failure of "implementation."

Holding teachers accountable for not turning sow's ears into silk purses follows directly from this stupidity. Every moronic fad has to have scapegoats, because otherwise the people espousing the fad would be forced to confront their error.

We can't have that.

PS: OT--- Idiocracy takes a giant step closer to being a documentary.


One-third of your wife's students are unemployable? What is the problem - low iq, bad behavior, or both?

There have always been poorly behaved individuals: women with six kids by six different men, drunks, etc., but they self-destructed and their kids died off. Darwinism works for humans, not just animals in the wild.

Nowadays, our country is afflicted with dysgenics - reverse Darwinism, survival of the least fit. People who can't hold down a job pumping gas or dusting furniture are saved from the consequences of their bad behavior via transfer payments and medical technology. They breed like rabbits and get paid for it.

This is particularly noticeable with blacks. The underclass is producing the majority of black babies and it sets the tone for black culture. My teacher friend said that most of her students in the middle school had no ambition beyond living on welfare or joining gangs. Her husband remarked that they wouldn't work even if the jobs returned (Akron used to be the rubber capital of the world).

She now teaches in a mixed race high school. The students tend to be better behaved and more intelligent, but there was one 17-year-old white girl still in the 8th grade. The school promoted her despite her class failure and chronic truancy and my friend was angry about that, too.

The liberals and cucks believe that people are alike all over and want the same things and are capable of the same things. Cuckservatism is liberalism lite. This delusion is one reason they call for open borders (they just have to assimilate!), advocate No Child Left Behind (my friend said that thanks to No Child Left Behind, she had to teach algebra to kids who couldn't balance a checkbook) and cheered on the War in Iraq (Rush Limbaugh spouted about the supposedly universal desire to be free). The Kings and Queens of wishful thinking.





Blogger Azimus May 11, 2017 9:36 AM  

54. Johnny May 11, 2017 9:18 AM
May 11, 2017 8:55 AM
@43 J.M.
Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 22:21)

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. (Leviticus 19:33)

Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow. (Deuteronomy 27:19)

Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge. (Deuteronomy 24:17

Note in the above quotes that there is no assumption of integration. Plus while Canaan (southern Israel or the Judah territory actually) was a polygut, the word foreigner was generally used to mean somebody who was not from the region, not the indigenous minorities who at this point had apparently been either driven off or adsorbed. Thus we are dealing with small numbers of people.

Or in to restate it with other words, sojourners should be treated fairly. A reasonable idea.

(Or to quote VD: [switching from] "hospitality" for "full citizenship rights")


I'm sorry but you really can't do a half-assed study on foreigners like this. You actually have to open the Bible and a Strong's Concordance and do a full and involved study. Cherry picking a few verses out of the Bible is a sin for which those who teach should be terrified to commit...

1. Leviticus 17:8 – Strangers expected to offer sacrifices/participate/follow laws

2. 1 Chronicles 22:2, 2 Chronicles 2:17 – Strangers were to provide the workforce to build the temple

3. Leviticus 22:10 – Strangers do not eat the holy things, nor Jewish wives of strangers

4. Exodus 12:43 – Strangers don’t eat the Passover – if they want to eat it they get circumcised – they need to become Jews first

5. Numbers 1:51 – Strangers do not come near to Tabernacle/Holy Service or die mentioned 5 times in Pentateuch

6. Deuteronomy 17:15 – Strangers may not be king

7. Deuteronomy 23:20 – OK to charge strangers interest, not OK to charge brothers

8. Deuteronomy 15:3 – foreigners not eligible for 7yr release of debts

9. Nehemiah 13 – this chapter deals with the strong measures to preserve the national identity that Nehemiah took when his nation was facing extinction. A) In the temple – tossed out Tobiah, the Ammonites and Moabites B) In the market – shut down the market and barred the gates on Sabbath, C) In marriage – Nehemiah beat men up (13:25) so that they wouldn’t let their children marry strangers

You can't just read part of the Bible and draw your warm-fuzzy conclusions. You have to read the whole counsel of God and then understand.

Blogger Zelezny May 11, 2017 9:38 AM  

Yeah because the Jews let the Muslims in.

109 times for a reason..

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass May 11, 2017 9:38 AM  

"How much chocolate syrup do you add to milk before it no longer resembles milk?

fify"

@5 That is indeed a better analogy.

I've long been of the wish that Hart and Celler could live to see the end result of their worthless bill. Hart was a third generation immigrant of Irishmen. They destroyed what was a phenomenal country. Thanks!

"IIRC, in Australia, by 2030, 1/3 of all Australians will foreign born, or of foreign born descent. By 2050, again, IIRC, white European descent will be less than 50%. We were founded by the Britains, mostly English, Irish, Scottish. Since 1949 we have had 5 million immigrants and our current population is under 24 million. Lots of space, water is an issue, as is infrastructure. Were we to stop immigration, I doubt the numbers would change much, mostly due to Boomer expiration."

@23 As we're we in the U.S. The Japanese, due to declining demographics, have answered with increased automation. It's a lie that more immigrants are needed to supplant those dying. VanishingAmerican pointed out two days ago that this idea is not old (as far as the U.S. is concerned). It's been around since Woodrow Wilson, at least.

"PS: The theme of "let those working class whites die off" is Pol Pot through-and-through. Those who espouse this view should be treated accordingly."

@33 Paging Bill Kristol. Paging Bill Kristol!!!

"Really? The Irish started the Civi War?"

@38 Weally!

"PS: OT--- Idiocracy takes a giant step closer to being a documentary."

@50 Funny. I thought the same thing yesterday after reading that about how it is Idiocracyesque.

"People need to stop being butthurt and denying history due to their identity. You don't weaken my case when you do that. You underline it."

@52 Exactly.

Anonymous Philalethes May 11, 2017 9:38 AM  

So a person with a Jewish/Catholic background was instrumental in setting up the current situation.

his paternal grandparents and maternal grandmother were Jewish

By Jewish law, he was one of the Chosen, since the lineage is transmitted through the mother – who may be either born Jewish (as Celler's mother was), or converted (like Ivanka Kushner). Judaism is not really a religion (how many "American" Jews really practice the religion?), but a nationality. Thus Donald Trump's grandchildren are not Americans. How come we never hear anything about his sons, who bear his name? (Where does the name Celler come from? It appears to be a camouflage name – like my ex-wife's Gilbert, from Goldberg – so what was the original?)

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 9:40 AM  

VD wrote:Really? The Irish started the Civil War?

No, they merely helped the North to win it. Over 200,000 Irish-born men, about 10 percent of the Union Army, served in it. More than 20 percent of the Union Navy was Irish-born.


In 1866, the Fenian Brotherhood repeatedly raided Canada and tried to start a war with the UK, the greatest military and economic power in the world at the time.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Fenian_Brotherhood

Blogger JACIII May 11, 2017 9:43 AM  

Given the turmoil the Irish stay in it's almost: Irish =Jihadi-lite.

OK. That's a troll. Couldn't resist.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 11, 2017 9:44 AM  

Was interesting that Sicko De Mayo was so sedate this year. I wonder what happened?

The media realized it has become counter-productive to show Mexicans au naturale. Now they're only shown in controlled presentations like ads and movies.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 11, 2017 9:45 AM  

We be gettin EQUALITY good and hard, ain't we?

Of course the rhetoric of EQUALITY works both ways, but you cannot tell that to the spergservatives or even the normies who accept at face value the double standards while believing in the old fairy tale.

Blogger Johnny May 11, 2017 9:47 AM  

>>No, they merely helped the North to win it. Over 200,000 Irish-born men, about 10 percent of the Union Army, served in it. More than 20 percent of the Union Navy was Irish-born.

Because the Irish came in poor they often could not start a homestead and ended up piling up in New York. Just as a matter of detail. The draft in that state was wildly unfair because the more wealthy could buy out of it and the state even funded the buyout for some of them. The Irish resented deeply being drafted into the war and there were a couple of riots in the city, some of which had a body count.

Blogger frigger611 May 11, 2017 9:47 AM  

I remember working in Dubai for about a month back in 2000. All the westerners more or less live in hotel enclaves where we can enjoy our alcohol and culture. Seemed like an alright arrangement. At no point did I ever think to myself "Ya know what would make this Emirate so much better? If I got to vote! I got smarts, after all!"

I am sorta Catholic-lite, but I can see intellectually how my "people" might not have been so well-suited to political thought of 18th century America.

But these days we are far from the problem causers. I have lots of Brit friends and not one of them is religious in the least. Their religion is partying, pub life, and futbol. They have no philosophy and are far more likely than anyone of my kin to vote for big government, the welfare state, nannyism.

Things gotta fall apart pretty horrendously before the difference between Protestant-Catholic becomes even a blip on the radar screen.

The vote franchise ought to be retarded by 90%. People of real Christian faith (not churchian) are going to need to band together for a while until things get sorted.

Actually this is just the sort of trouble that can beget a new "national" church.

Blogger Phat Repat May 11, 2017 9:52 AM  

As an example of how the Irish are so dicked up, have you ever been to Boston? Anything they touch will turn to Scheiße. They don't call them Mass-holes for nothing.

Blogger bw May 11, 2017 9:53 AM  

Jews are just really good at self-promotion and getting in charge of social trends so focusing on them is counter-productive

And they've done it all with no money or power!
Amazing!

Perhaps it is the wages of abortion VD

Same (((people))) were the drivers of that as well. Perhaps any Judgement that might be upon the West stems from failing to keep the money-changing, Wandering Jew wandering.

Blogger Johnny May 11, 2017 9:54 AM  

There was the slavery issue, but the majority of northerners did not care enough that they wanted to go to war with the south over the issue. Lincon even got elected with his "preserve the union" talk. These were code words for: I don't like slavery but lets not break up the union to abolish it."

What drove the war was mercantilism, the general idea that an industrial society needed a market for its goods that went beyond the local population. This is the pre revolution role the North American colonies had for Britain. Manufacturing was repressed in the colonies and they were obliged to import British manfucatured goods. New England was heavily into manufacturing and wanted the South as the market for its goods, with cotton as the source of income that allowed the the Southern States to afford the imports. Thus slavery worked for both regions because it produced the income necessary for the south.

What broke the arrangement up was northern greed. Heavy export taxes were used to fund the central government, mainly at the expense of the south. That is what triggered the revolt. Lincoln, apparently, thought the war would be quick and easy, and in some ways encouraged it to happen. The apparent reason for switching to slavery as the reason for the war was moral cover, a way of claiming the war was a moral struggle while actully it was driven by northern greed. The south was to be not only a market for norther goods but was to pay heavily into the national government.

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler May 11, 2017 9:56 AM  

Well, current events prove that Medieval Catholicism and Christendom was right to suppress the Jews. It was Roman Catholicism, where the bishops were mostly derived from the aristocratic class, that drove the Muslim out of Europe and suppressed the Jews.

It was the Atheist "Enlightenment" and the preachings of tolerance that gave the Jews their liberty. It was Napoleon Bonaparte that gave the Jews their liberty...and Catholic leaders opposed that. Napoleon was, like Thomas Jefferson, a son of the Enlightenment. John Locke, America's sophist, preached tolerance.

That is where our present predicament lies.

Furthermore, we have to return to the ideology of "Blue Bloods". As the Spaniards kicked out the Muslims, they also recognized that only blue bloods, Spaniards that were not mixed with Moors or Jews, be their leaders. Our racial leadership must come from blue bloods; there is too much racial mixing going on. I don't think there is any pure anglo-saxon bloodlines in America anymore. One English guy I know, from an aristocratic house, married a heinz 57 girl who had Russian Jewish blood lines. That's here in the Midwest. You can not have European culture with semitic heritage in it. Culture is defined by the racial soul of a people. Semites are a very different people from Indo-Europeans. All forms of Miscegenation have got to stop.

Most of the English aristocracy are into British Israelitism! Almost all of the English are into Freemasonry which is partly Jewish and there was great intermarriage between Jews and the British Aristocracy. That's a huge problem.

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 9:59 AM  

The media realized it has become counter-productive to show Mexicans au naturale.

That would be coverage of rooster fights, & litter.

Blogger Vikki Wilson May 11, 2017 10:03 AM  

VD wrote:It is hard to tell which is the problem with antisemitism.
exchanging the Chinese for the Jews as most politically influential minority is not going to benefit the USA in the least.


So how would you see a new Chinese elite playing out culturally?
As a group they don't immediately strike me as more fervently deconstructive than secular Jews.

Anonymous TS May 11, 2017 10:04 AM  

"9. Nehemiah 13 – this chapter deals with the strong measures to preserve the national identity that Nehemiah took when his nation was facing extinction. A) In the temple – tossed out Tobiah, the Ammonites and Moabites B) In the market – shut down the market and barred the gates on Sabbath, C) In marriage – Nehemiah beat men up (13:25) so that they wouldn’t let their children marry strangers"

Seems the Jews have a long history in dealing with that curse and using it for their advantage.

Anonymous Stickwick May 11, 2017 10:04 AM  

My husband's family immigrated from Sweden to Finland about 500 years ago. As Markku likes to remind us, they are still not considered genuine Finns, but rather "Fennoswedes." Most Finns would probably consider Fennoswedes a curse upon the land.

What was weird to me as a Canucko-American is that after all these centuries, the different subgroups that make up Finland are still recognizable. My husband can distinguish between Karelians, Tavastians, Savonians, and Fennoswedes without difficulty. It took me a while to realize that this is the norm around the world, not the exception.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 10:10 AM  

So how would you see a new Chinese elite playing out culturally? As a group they don't immediately strike me as more fervently deconstructive than secular Jews.

Like Hong Kong or Vancouver. They're not deconstructive. Unlike Jews, they actually have a distinct culture and a civilization, they're not a small tribe reacting defensively to external norms. They will simply rule and change things to suit their traditions and societal norms.

Anonymous TS May 11, 2017 10:10 AM  

"As a group they don't immediately strike me as more fervently deconstructive than secular Jews."

You don't know Asians. If you aren't Asian you're screwed and will not have much if any opportunity to rise up in their society. What's happening in Europe with immivasion is not possible in Asia for example.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 10:13 AM  

@57 Elizabeth, One-third of your wife's students are unemployable? What is the problem - low iq, bad behavior, or both?

Half is mainstreaming SpEd (the "inclusion model"), half is metastatic "tolerance" (or excusing as a "diagnosis")----AKA enabling---- of anti-social behavior so it grows and spreads.

There are kids who have (literally, in one case) IQ's <60 and kids who are even above-average in ability but whose sociopathy is given license due to zero ability to discipline.

And a social worker who rewards the behavior-problem students even when they don't behave properly. (facepalm.)

You are 100% right. It is the dregs who produce the most kids. Good parents are too busy raising their kids and PAYING to feed, house, clothe and educate others' kids to object to this idiocy, so it will continue until social mood plunges, markets tank, the economy implodes and everything around us changes.

The school had a 1st grader "behavior" problem who was so bad he was institutionalized for a few weeks. He celebrated his return to the school this week by throwing something into the overhead lights, breaking them, then picking up a shard of glass and trying to stab a classmate.

But you see, children below middle-school age cannot be bad eggs, so short of stabbing someone in the eye, no behavior will get them pulled. And since punishment has been proven ineffective throughout history, no sticks are allowed, only carrots.

And since positive reinforcement is all, any child who simply promises to do better tomorrow gets his prize.

Truly, the same lunatics who think surgery changes a man into a woman are in charge of schools. Just another place where people will separate in coming decades, and eventually either the lunatics will govern only their own kind or else the sane, once separated, will be faced with slitting the throats of those lunatics who try to jump the fence and enforce their lunacy on the sane.

Blogger tz May 11, 2017 10:14 AM  

Many English Protestants converted to Mormonism (see the current racial demographics in Utah) and went west. Also Unitarianism was the churchianity of he day.
And the south had to bring in immigrants to do jobs whits just wouldn't do like pick cotton. The North was extracting wealth from the south like the coasts are doing from the heartland today. And even having immigrants fight wars.

If you look close, history is rhyming.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope May 11, 2017 10:15 AM  

VD wrote:So how would you see a new Chinese elite playing out culturally? As a group they don't immediately strike me as more fervently deconstructive than secular Jews.

Like Hong Kong or Vancouver. They're not deconstructive. Unlike Jews, they actually have a distinct culture and a civilization, they're not a small tribe reacting defensively to external norms. They will simply rule and change things to suit their traditions and societal norms.


Exactly. If you live in the San Francisco area or anywhere there are lots of FOB and ABC, you know that they are extremely different from American culture. Money-grubbing, conforming, clannish, willing to twist any law to their economic advantage, racist, elitist. The only ones who do not conform to this are ones raised in a dedicated Christian family, and by that I mean non-Churchian, self-sacrificing, missionary volunteering types.

Take a good look at the universities and youth orchestras and see what their fierce competitiveness leads to...

Anonymous 11B May 11, 2017 10:17 AM  

Thank you for not memory-holing Celler like Coulter and others.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 10:21 AM  

I find it quite fascinating to try to list (in my mind) all the ways in which people will separate. In the USA, economic necessity drives location and recitation of the Equalist Catechism was drilled to the bone marrow, so the coming urge to separate will induce an astonishing level of mental stress in lots of people.

I await the answer to the question, Will we see Blue-Pillers suddenly invert, will they simply separate (after futilely trying to stuff the Red-pilled back into their Matrix) or will they simply fade and shrink and kind of die out?

The answer on a population level might be different than on an individual level.

Blogger tz May 11, 2017 10:22 AM  

Not wanting integration or multiculturalism is not racist. No more than saying there should only be things like kung-pao shepherd's pie sauerkraut tacos. A buffet is not a trough.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2017 10:27 AM  

Wheeler
It was President John F. Kennedy that pushed for the overturning of the 1952 Nationalities Act. When he was assassinated, his brother Robert Kennedy continued the project. When Robert was assassinated, Ted Kennedy took up the project and furthered the wide expansion of the 1965 Immigration Act.

Robert Kennedy was murdered in 1968. , well after Hart-Celler was signed by Lyndon Johnson.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 10:29 AM  

BBGKB wrote:The media realized it has become counter-productive to show Mexicans au naturale.

That would be coverage of rooster fights, & litter.


How about men molesting their younger sisters, daughters and nieces?

Mexican family values.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2017 10:31 AM  

@82 dc.sunsets

It's really too early to even guess. As you know, preference cascades are called "cascades" for a reason. Like a avalanche that one minute "isn't there" then suddenly is rolling downhill while getting bigger and bigger. In view of how stupid the Boomers have been there may be fracturing by age as well.

Anonymous fop May 11, 2017 10:33 AM  

To be honest it was Celler, a few micks, and hundreds of cucky WASP legislators and a cucky WASP president that made this happen.

WASPs ran their country into the ground. They fed the raccoons, they befriended the raccoons, they left the door open at night, and now they are upset that their baby got eaten alive.

Cursed raccoons.

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 10:38 AM  

WASPs ran their country into the ground. They fed the raccoons, they befriended the raccoons, they left the door open at night, and now they are upset that their baby got eaten alive

More like the raccoons had video of the wasp snorting cocaine off 9yos private parts, then they supported the wasp's election campaign so they could eat some other wasp's baby.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2017 10:39 AM  

@76 VD to Elizabeth

Vancouver BC and before that, San Francisco contain enclaves where Chinese can spend their whole live never speaking English if they wish. As Vox pointed out they have their own culture, and are tribal. The Han are the biggest tribe on the planet. They are willing to work with Koreans and Japanese on common political goals as well. Chinese Christians are a growing force in both mainland China and overseas Chinese communities, too.

Anonymous Stickwick May 11, 2017 10:40 AM  

@80's description is accurate. I lived in the Vancouver area for 11 years, and observed the differences between non-Christian Chinese and the British-descent Canadians. One thing that was frustrating about using public transit in Vancouver was the Chinese women who refused to queue up properly and shoved and elbowed their way onto the train cars and buses. They didn't care that it's considered rude by Canadians; that's how it's done in China.

Far more pernicious than that for Canadians has been the way the massive influx of Asians has priced Vancouver way beyond the average Canadian. I moved out of there in 1997. My jaw hit the floor when my sis in-law showed me a real estate listing for some total POS little box of a house in East Vancouver -- the part of town once known for its picturesque drug addicts, prostitutes, and petty criminals -- going for over a million dollars.

Everyone else is being pushed out into areas that were considered "in the sticks" when I lived there. This includes a lot of the crime and homelessness formerly associated with places like East Vancouver. The criminals and homeless are now in once-nice places like Abbotsford, where last year a 13 year-old girl was viciously stabbed to death in the halls of her school by some transient scumbag. Asians are not only transforming Vancouver, but the entire Lower Mainland of the province.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 10:45 AM  

Far more pernicious than that for Canadians has been the way the massive influx of Asians has priced Vancouver way beyond the average Canadian. I moved out of there in 1997. My jaw hit the floor when my sis in-law showed me a real estate listing for some total POS little box of a house in East Vancouver -- the part of town once known for its picturesque drug addicts, prostitutes, and petty criminals -- going for over a million dollars.

Scale. Isn't this why Mexico has strict laws regarding property ownership, so that the rich gringos don't swoop in and buy up Mexico right out from under the Mexicans?

We don't seem to realize it yet, but North America is being treated by wealthy Asians (south and east) like a backwater populated by poor, stupid savages.

Blogger Phat Repat May 11, 2017 10:48 AM  

@76 wrote:
Like Hong Kong or Vancouver. They're not deconstructive. Unlike Jews, they actually have a distinct culture and a civilization, they're not a small tribe reacting defensively to external norms. They will simply rule and change things to suit their traditions and societal norms.

Though I have opined my affections for the Asians, females, they are not-americans and never will be. And consequently, they must go.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 10:53 AM  

@57 Elizabeth, One-third of your wife's students are unemployable? What is the problem - low iq, bad behavior, or both?

Half is mainstreaming SpEd (the "inclusion model"), half is metastatic "tolerance" (or excusing as a "diagnosis")----AKA enabling---- of anti-social behavior so it grows and spreads.

There are kids who have (literally, in one case) IQ's <60 and kids who are even above-average in ability but whose sociopathy is given license due to zero ability to discipline.

And a social worker who rewards the behavior-problem students even when they don't behave properly. (facepalm.)

You are 100% right. It is the dregs who produce the most kids. Good parents are too busy raising their kids and PAYING to feed, house, clothe and educate others' kids to object to this idiocy, so it will continue until social mood plunges, markets tank, the economy implodes and everything around us changes.

The school had a 1st grader "behavior" problem who was so bad he was institutionalized for a few weeks. He celebrated his return to the school this week by throwing something into the overhead lights, breaking them, then picking up a shard of glass and trying to stab a classmate.

But you see, children below middle-school age cannot be bad eggs, so short of stabbing someone in the eye, no behavior will get them pulled. And since punishment has been proven ineffective throughout history, no sticks are allowed, only carrots.

And since positive reinforcement is all, any child who simply promises to do better tomorrow gets his prize.

Truly, the same lunatics who think surgery changes a man into a woman are in charge of schools. Just another place where people will separate in coming decades, and eventually either the lunatics will govern only their own kind or else the sane, once separated, will be faced with slitting the throats of those lunatics who try to jump the fence and enforce their lunacy on the sane.

My friend told me that she was repeatedly cursed out in class, reported it to the administration, but nothing was done.

For one year, after transferring from the middle school, she worked with 1st and 2nd graders. She preferred them at that age because they were still sweet. One exception was a 2nd grader who threatened his fellow students with a razor. She said that he would probably be in jail before he reached high school. Typically, she could tell if a kid would turn out badly in the 4th grade - the grade your wife is teaching. How wonderful.

People don't have vices any more - they're sick not sinners. A big excuse is chemical imbalances in the brain, to be treated with medication.

The idea of responsibility for one's bad behavior and that it's wrong to force other people to both suffer and subsidize the consequences of one's bad behavior is out of fashion even among people who call themselves "conservative." Pro-life activists see welfare and acceptance of illegitimate child-bearing as a solution for abortion. That's taking responsibility?

When the money runs out, things will turn ugly. A lot of people will end up dead. But, the survivors will be better behaved because they won't be able to force other people to pay their bills and take care of them. Society will be much tougher, more judgmental, more masculine you might say.

Blogger Out of Nod May 11, 2017 11:02 AM  

I can here the neo-Reformists now:

How do these bible verses point somebody to Jesus? If the verse doesn't point us to Jesus then we can disregard it.

Christ is inclusive and he wants to bring all nations into his fold. We as the church are supposed to model that in our congregations. (I heard this one last Sunday in a group leadership discussion).

Blogger kennymac May 11, 2017 11:03 AM  

@53 do you mind VD, I'm trying to nitpick some random internet comments and you're ruining it with your facts and logic.

Blogger Billy Ray May 11, 2017 11:04 AM  

immigrants are bad? tell that to the descendants of the Irish Brigade that was slaughtered at the wall in Fredricksburg but held the wall at the angle during the Battle of Gettysburg - MANY OF WHOM WERE FRESH OFF THE BOAT

I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

You worthless POS sleep soundly and safely because of the sacrifices made by those you despise because of their skin color

I DARE you to go to Walter Reed and tell those wounded and maimed who aren't white that they aren't real Americans. let me know when you plan to do it, so i can get some popcorn and cold ones to enjoy while you get your ass kicked

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler May 11, 2017 11:05 AM  

@70 Johnny said that Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union and the cause of the war was mercantilism.

I am in the process of reading a book by an American Leftist/Socialist, John Nichols, The 'S' Word; The Short History of an American Tradition....Socialism It is an excellent book, great research.

Abe Lincoln was a Painette! He read all the works of Tom Paine and Nichols and others consider Tom Paine, a proto-socialist. Paine was an abolitionist and a SJW.

Abe Lincoln was a great newspaper reader and he read heavily from the New York Tribune, edited by Horace Greeley who was another Paineitte, which ran over 400 articles by Karl Marx and Engels!

John Adams feared "The Age of Paine". (pg 40) The Agrarian Free Soil Movement were decried as "Red Republicanism" by Northern conservatives. (pg 52) The current Republican Party was a combination of the failed Whig Party and this Free Soil, Free Labor party.

Tom Paine identified himself with this statement (pg 32-33):
"The world is my country,
All mankind are my brethren,
And to do good is my religion."

The Foundation of the Republican Party was in Radicalism! It was a party of Social Justice Warriors. Abe Lincoln said on many occasions that Labor must control Capital. He was worked up about this. This was the foundation for the Civil War.

Do you know why you can't reason with a SJW. William Lloyd Garrison said this: "I am in earnest--I will not equivocate-I will not excuse-I will not retreat a single inch-I will be heard". Where have you heard that before? On all of our college campuses! From the Left! Socialism is an American tradition---one of many!

Well, guess what, Lincoln had those same sentiments! On page 85, John Nichols quotes from Lincoln's frustration with slavery--it slowly dawned on Lincoln that there, with the Nebraska/Kansas Act, there wasn't going to be a "peaceful extinction of slavery"; Lincoln said, "The day of compromise is past".

Lincoln compared himself with the "Spirit of 76" and the Declaration of Indep.'s "All men are created equal" to the Monied Powers of Capital in the Monarchical South.

Lincoln wanted War with the South and he was prepared to Kill for his Agenda of Egalitarianism!

This book proves the thesis of MacDonald King Aston, in his book Yankee Babylon, where he researches that Lincoln did all he could to provoke a war with the South. Mr. Aston is proven true. Lincoln wanted war. Lincoln was a SJW to the max---willing to kill to for the Egalitarian Agenda, The Spirit of 76. Lincoln wasn't going to "compromise"----no way, no how.

It was Fanny Wright, another Paineitte that created the first multiracial farming community in Tennessee in the 1820s.

The American Civil War was an SJW event.

Anonymous deplorable May 11, 2017 11:09 AM  

"You worthless POS sleep soundly and safely because of the sacrifices made by those you despise because of their skin color."

What are they sacrificing for? National defense or maybe invasion by a foreign power? Well yeah they're sacrifices alright but for globullism/Tower of Babel 2.0

Blogger Billy Ray May 11, 2017 11:11 AM  

“It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
- Matthew 15:26

and then we read in the VERY NEXT VERSE "Yes it is, Lord," she said. "Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table."

way to cherry pick verses out of context to prove your ignornace

Anonymous Marlboro May 11, 2017 11:13 AM  

Billy Ray, are you Vox Day trolling himself? In any event, you are correct, The U.S. Military is full of grease, buttsucks and timeservers. It is such a joke that the U.S. has difficulty finding countries small enough to push around.



Blogger Billy Ray May 11, 2017 11:15 AM  

What are they sacrificing for? National defense or maybe invasion by a foreign power? Well yeah they're sacrifices alright but for globullism/Tower of Babel 2.0

to try and make life better for ass wipes like you who take them for granted

Blogger Charles Martel May 11, 2017 11:15 AM  

"...if there is one core lesson of history,[sic] it is this: work your own damn fields."

But that was the opposite of what the landed gentry in the colonies wanted. The whole idea of America was this: an opportunity for the Old-World wannabe's (as well as those who had suffered financial ruin) to come to the new world, grab as much land as their social and political connections would permit, and then stock up on Negro slaves who would work the vast tracts of land (tracts that were too large for one family to effectively work) while the landowners lived the soft aristocratic life. The settling of this country was all about greed. It's true that most of the whites who settled here were not large land owners, but that's not germane to the issue. The issue is that the Negro population which is causing so much trouble in this nation is here because of patrician elites who were greedy. If the bulk of this country's land had been parceled in such a way that white settlers could, as individual families, work their lands then this would today be a totally different nation.

Blogger Unknown May 11, 2017 11:16 AM  

work your own damn fields.

Why? We have yours, and soon you'll work them for us. Even a righteous king can't save you.

Blogger Billy Ray May 11, 2017 11:16 AM  

you alt right clowns sound just like the bed sheet cross burning whackos of the 1920s - who the last time I checked WERE DEMOCRATS

Blogger Cail Corishev May 11, 2017 11:18 AM  

I find it quite fascinating to try to list (in my mind) all the ways in which people will separate.

Same here. I think living in a rural area makes separation seem more reasonable to me because we never mixed that much in the first place. I happened to glance at a local small-town newspaper yesterday, and there were a couple articles on the front about kids who won scholarships or something like that. I was struck by the fact that I recognized all the family names, and there would have been similiar articles about their parents and aunts and uncles a generation ago. When they run bits from their archive of the first newspapers in the area over a century ago, all the names are familiar then too.

Pick one of the nations that exist within the US, like Greater Appalachia, get at least an hour from any major city, and what you'll find will be pretty consistent across that nation -- families who have been there since it was settled. It's only in the cities that people have mixed enough to make separation seem harmful or impossible.

That doesn't make it any easier for me to guess what will happen, because the cities carry a lot of weight. But I think it's why separation doesn't worry me at all. To those of us in the hinterlands, it would just mean the government off in D.C. would stop taxing us and telling us what to do, and a nearer government made up of people more like us would probably take its place. What's the problem?

Anonymous deplorable May 11, 2017 11:20 AM  

"Billy Ray, are you Vox Day trolling himself?"

Lol. That's what I thought too. Vox couldn't sound that lame even if he tried really hard though he could have copied and pasted some cucks comments from somewhere.

Anonymous deplorable May 11, 2017 11:22 AM  

"to try and make life better for ass wipes like you who take them for granted"

Ok, this clown is parody. Some ilk are having fun again.

Blogger frigger611 May 11, 2017 11:22 AM  

@95 Billy Ray

Yes, that's right Billy, insult and threaten people who actually study history while you reduce the whole of their argument to this:

"immigrants are bad"

Yes, that's what we argue here, and we can't really sum it up any better than you have. That's sarcasm, by the way.

it would be better for service men to understand exactly who they are fighting for before so easily dismissing the same people who might keep you out of that trouble in the first place.

You are not fighting "for America" or "for the constitution." Though that is the idea they sold you.

You fight in defense of Goldman Sachs, global bankers, who would sell your entire village for scrap to China while you're away fighting for the American Way, and supply your neighbors, the unemployed with opiates and Kardashian TV to ease their pain.

your brethren come home torn up and the govt doesn't support them. How many Wounded Warriors charities need to be set up to do that job? How many lethal scandals and VA administrators have to have their wrists slapped before you see that those who send you off to war do not care about your fate?

Serious analysis (mostly) goes on here, if you are too much of an unthinking brute to exercise your better angel, then you are the very thing whose face you want to punch.

Blogger Phat Repat May 11, 2017 11:23 AM  

Oh, "Billy Ray, Billy Ray, Billy Ray, Billy Ray"

Shutup Francis.

Anonymous fop May 11, 2017 11:27 AM  

The spice must flow, Billy Ray.

Anonymous johnc May 11, 2017 11:30 AM  

@67 I am sorta Catholic-lite, but I can see intellectually how my "people" might not have been so well-suited to political thought of 18th century America.

That's because Enlightenment era ideas are dumb, and "democracy" is a pretty dumb idea also that only works under very, very strict and particular circumstances, and even then with its shortcomings. Boomer cucks and Gen-Xers even at this late hour can't see this obvious fact because they're attached to their brainwashed upbringing and still want to have faith in all that flag-waving crap they were taught.

It's not a matter of intellect in the 18th century, it's a matter of whether one was guided by God's revealed law or by freemasonry.

And the immigration problem is 100% a problem of birthrates. If white couples were popping out five or so kids (and btw, contraception is a violation of God's law), then the conditions in the country would be such that bringing in hordes of third-worlders would be practically impossible today. The economics, the housing, the food requirements -- none of it could bear a combination of high natural birthrates and large immigration. Not to mention that if you're going to believe in "democracy", then your race better have the numbers to back it up. Pretty basic stuff here.

Europe is undergoing the same changes.

Blogger frigger611 May 11, 2017 11:36 AM  

well said, johnc.

I've been slowly shedding my love for Enlightenment thinking over the past 10 years, this site has helped to accelerate the process

Anonymous DissidentRight May 11, 2017 11:36 AM  

Vox, are you so quickly forgetting the history of your people? We've done ethnic cleansing before. I wouldn't be so quick to write it off as a possibility.

Indians aren’t white.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 11:47 AM  

I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

They aren't. They aren't Martians or Eskimos or iguanas either. Not-X can never be X. And the history of imported legionaries has never been a terribly successful one.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 11:51 AM  

When the money runs out, things will turn ugly. A lot of people will end up dead. But, the survivors will be better behaved because they won't be able to force other people to pay their bills and take care of them. Society will be much tougher, more judgmental, more masculine you might say.

The funny thing is, the money already ran out. For 35 years it's all been put on the credit card because the cash was insufficient to pay the ongoing bills.

All consumption occurs in Real Time. Issuing debt in order to spend doesn't consume the future (which hasn't been produced yet.) It simply consumes MORE of the present (while making people THINK they still have their cake as they eat it too.)

Metaphor: A farmer cuts lumber to build barns and burn for fuel. For a while he plants new trees, but his wife & he decide they want more barns and more heat so he cuts faster than trees are replaced. When the trees were all cut, he begins to tear out lumber from the barns in order to heat his home and erect other barns, but issues himself IOU-WOOD, to be fulfilled in various future increments (13-week, 6 month, 1 year, 2 year, 5 year, 10 year, and 30 year increments dominate his promises.)

In the short term, when nearby promises are due, he simply rips out MORE planks to cover them. As long as the barns APPEAR to still be whole, this game can continue indefinitely. Eventually, however, a stiff breeze knocks down his barns like dominoes.

We're living during the largest occult destruction of capital in history. When the blinders finally fall, the US (and world) economy will suddenly appear as if it was bombed from Mars.

Industry was pushed out in favor of make-work in the "industries" of medical services, higher ed, welfare administration and pushing around accounting fictions (AKA the FIRE economy.)

It's all an illusion. It's always an illusion. Collectively, we see only that which the herd sees. Wait until "we" flip from pseudo-fears about "climate change" to very REAL SHTF fears about contaminated drinking water, nutrient-free food, pandemic, collapse of fisheries or cropland, etc.

Anyone who wants to be FAMOUS in 10 years should be working now to be the next Rachael Carson (well, there are hundreds of people working on that, and only one of them will be spontaneously selected for the "honor.")

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 11, 2017 11:52 AM  

@kennymac
"Really? The Irish started the Civi War?"

Yeah, that seems kind of a stretch. NYC draft riots, anyone? Though one could argue that they certainly played a significant role as cannon fodder, and, in a more nebulous sense, that large-scale immigration (almost entirely to the North), helped to transform the general view of the US from a voluntary, potentially reversible coalition of states to that of a unitary entity.

Another possible view is that, while in one sense, the War Between the States was not really about slavery, the hard core abolitionists in general, and William Lloyd Garrison in particular, did more than any other single factor to harden attitudes on both sides. By transforming slavery from a practical problem to be solved, to a religious crusade, with Southern slave holders as the Devil, this approach helped to transform it into a problem that could not be solved by compromise, or gradually, but only by force.

Nat Turner's insurrection took place about 7 months after the first issue of Garrison's "The Liberator" was published in 1831. These were not independent events to many, even most, Southerners. In 1826, of the 143 emancipation societies in the United States, 103 were in the South. By 1835, they were all gone.

Turns out that consistently portraying a group of people as demons is not typically effective in winning them over to your view of things. Thought experiment: given a choice between ending slavery via war, with 700,000 dead, and the South destroyed, and ending it by some kind of compromise involving compensation paid to slaveholders, and possibly colonization, which would Garrison and similar types have chosen?

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 11:56 AM  

@110 (and btw, contraception is a violation of God's law)

I watched all three of my kids' births. Some women pop 'em out like watermelon seeds, but I'd be cautious, were I you, in suggesting that birth control within the bonds of marriage is somehow wrong. Watching one kid get stuck on his broad shoulders on the way out, and the OB grabbing him by the head with both hands, putting one foot on the delivery table and then yanking like hell...no epidural will mask that.

Blogger JP May 11, 2017 12:00 PM  

@Rocklea I think he meant exiled to the jungle for the rest of their lives.

Blogger Sam May 11, 2017 12:12 PM  

@27
Apologies; I meant problem as in gauging correct levels, not the attitude itself with problematic. It isn't a problem for figuring out what to do now, but for figuring out how to stop this insanity from repeating in the future.

@62
The Irish also built one of the worlds first submarines in the United States in order to attack the British (Fenian Ram).

@69
Looking at Israel, Ashkenazi Jews have a per capita income of about 40,000
http://www.cbs.gov.il/www/publications13/1524/pdf/t25.pdf

(pre-1989 Europe/America immigrants, multiply per month by 12 used 3.5 as the conversion rate)

Higher Jewish income in the United States is a function of relentless nepotism and living in the United States; I don't know enough to sort out the two factors.

@70
The war was over power. Slave states voted for Southern interests, free for Northern. While they lost the house the Senate was balanced- California was +1 free state, but 1 of its senator was from the South and they wanted to split the state in half. However, Lincoln and the Republicans 'no future slave states' means the balance is gone and the North gets the power to screw them over.

Anonymous Humpty Dumpty Parumpty May 11, 2017 12:12 PM  

"I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes"

Boomer Rage; back in 'Nam in '68, our Spaniard Sergeant, Lopez, was groovy. Better than you millenials and your silent typewriter "phones".

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 11, 2017 12:14 PM  

@W. Lindsay Wheeler

Heh. It's remarkable that people are still promoting that old "Da Kennedys are responsible for da Hart-(((Celler))) Act! Da Kennedys, I tell you!" canard in the current year. It's like a blood libel, or something.

Though Kennedy was the face of the 1965 Act,he was a freshman senator with little clout. The Act was the culmination of a 40-year effort by Jewish lobbies including the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, B’nai B’rith, the American Federation of Jews from Eastern Europe and Jewish members of Congress.

It was the American Jewish Congress that proposed the basic elements of the 1965 bill - nine years earlier in 1956.

As for the legislation, this was written by Norbert A. Schlei, a Jewish lawyer who also drafted the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Perhaps perusing the contents of this link would help to further correct your misconceptions?

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/05/ted-kennedy-did-not-pass-the-immigration-act-of-1965/

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 12:15 PM  

It isn't a problem for figuring out what to do now, but for figuring out how to stop this insanity from repeating in the future.

That would be desirable for everyone's sake, I would think.

Looking at Israel, Ashkenazi Jews have a per capita income of about 40,000

The comparison does tend to explode the "successful because so much smarter than everyone" theory. Martin van Creveld alone is sufficient to explode the idea that all the smart Jews live in the USA.

Blogger Sheila4g May 11, 2017 12:18 PM  

@56 Cail Corishev:"I'd gladly live as a Catholic in a land where only land-owning, white, Protestant men are allowed to vote, because I can look at the polls and see what kind of country they would vote for -- an excellent one. Sure, there's the possibility they would also vote to ban Catholicism at some point. That seems unlikely at this point in history, but if that happened, we'd deal with it. That'd be better than letting everyone vote to burn everything down."

Same. Besides the fact that the universal franchise was NOT a founding "American" value, it's an incredibly foolish idea based on equalitarianism. I haven't bothered voting even locally for years because only the cucks and colonizers do - in the recent mayoral election the two White male candidates combined got about 6% of the vote; the Chinese female about 40% and the magic Haitian won with 52%. All the bond issues {which I would have voted against} passed with the sole exception of the one I might have supported, regarding funds for historic preservation of a slice of the area's history.

When I was the human rights officer in Sofia, Bulgaria, I met with all the dissidents and self-proclaimed "intelligentsia." They really thought they were noble and suffering on behalf of their people - but the majority there, just like the majority in Russia when I lived there 7 years earlier, didn't particularly care about voting. They wanted freedom to travel, to be able to purchase consumer goods, and to be able to speak their mind without fearing criminal consequences {i.e. private debate or criticism of those in charge but not any groundswell of righteous "representation" rhetoric}.

I have never, ever wanted to run for an office or be "in charge" of others. I just want to be left alone by the busybodies. I genuinely don't understand what motivates even the Whites who feel they should control things {other than the obvious - power}. It's easy to see why all the Indians and Chinese start by running for the school board {generally they still lose because not enough of them are citizens yet, but give it a few years}. They want more policies to benefit their own, although they already got Latin dropped for Chinese language, and no one but Indians, Chinese, and Jews join the orchestra. Even looking back in history, it was Jews {and, I believe, also a few Catholics} who first challenged the individual states' requirements that public-office holders be Protestant Christians. What on earth would have given that Jew the idea he deserved to be in charge, in a nation in which he was a tiny minority? I've read Washington {and others} was loaned $ by the Rhode Island Jews, and thus they were rewarded with the law {still in effect, by the way} allowing uncles to marry nieces in accordance with Talmudic law.

People get all butt hurt about the magic franchise, but hundreds of thousands of "Americans" of all stripes don't bother using it, and either way one can legitimately wonder whether it matters. Propose limiting voting by foreigners for a generation or two and the listener is horrified. Yet that same individual may then negatively opine about all the New Yorkers or Californians invading his state and voting to change things. I would wholeheartedly support restricting the franchise to anyone changing state of residence for a set period of time {minimum ten years?} for the same reason immigrants and their progeny down to 3rd or 4th generation shouldn't vote. As a special snowflake, I just want to live peacefully and unobtrusively in the sort of land that White Protestant males would set up and run, excellently, for themselves. THAT is the gift, the true privilege of being an "American" of the 3.0 variety, not voting to run and/or change things.

Blogger lowercaseb May 11, 2017 12:19 PM  

TS wrote:"As a group they don't immediately strike me as more fervently deconstructive than secular Jews."

You don't know Asians. If you aren't Asian you're screwed and will not have much if any opportunity to rise up in their society.


Bingo! I can only speak to what I know, but you are seeing right now in the last 10 years or so the Chinese takeover of San Francisco. They have always had a large stake in the city, but since the stealth buyout of large number of residential properties to Hong Kong investors and the election of Rose Pak's tool Ed Lee to the Mayorship, they have managed to use the constant squabbling of the Hispanic immegration debate, BLM and the GLBT fights to consolidate themselves to positions of bureaucratic power.

Of course the one thing that keeps them from succeeding is that they are too smart as a people to be able to understand the stupidity that keeps this city running.

Blogger Sam May 11, 2017 12:22 PM  

@115
"which would Garrison and similar types have chosen?"

"“Though it cost the blood of millions of white men, let it come. Let justice be done.” "
John Quincy Adams 1843

Haiti previously had a slave revolt where in 1791 they threw out the plantation owners, then in 1804 they proceeded to murder almost all the white people on the island. So it wasn't an empty threat.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2017 12:25 PM  

@118
The Irish also built one of the worlds first submarines in the United States in order to attack the British (Fenian Ram).

John Holland's design, though. Plus David Bushnell's Turtle predates it by well over a century, not an Irish invention either.

/sperg

Anonymous Grayman May 11, 2017 12:30 PM  

Vox, are you so quickly forgetting the history of your people? We've done ethnic cleansing before. I wouldn't be so quick to write it off as a possibility

..This

Once things getting sporty and blood flows, resources will rapidly become limited. I suspect tolerance for anyone identified as "outsider" when everyone is being crushed by suddenly going from abundance to limited resources is going to be virtually non-existent.

Blogger JP May 11, 2017 12:32 PM  

@BBGKB You can't kill hookworms, they have a right to live! Just because they destroy the IQ and work ethic of their host doesn't mean they should be killed. Every country they've been to, people try to kill them or expel them; where's your compassion for their struggle?

I can only conclude that you're some kind of racist anti-hookwormite.

Blogger Culture War Draftee May 11, 2017 12:42 PM  

In Battle Cry of the Republic, McPherson (a middle-of-the-road historian of the '80s) noted that in the 1850s Democrat politicians sponsored rail projects in southern Indiana knowing that would flood the area with Irish laborers who could be counted on to vote Democrat.

So even the 1850s weaponized immigration was a recognized tactic. If anyone were to write a history of the pre-Civil War era today, I expect hatefacts like that would be carefully scrubbed out.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 11, 2017 12:42 PM  

@Elizabeth
"This is particularly noticeable with blacks. The underclass is producing the majority of black babies and it sets the tone for black culture."

Black culture is also affected by things like gangsta rap and movies, that tend to originate with a different group.

Also, it's not just higher fertility rates with lower class blacks-- it's also lower fertility rates with "talented tenth" blacks, especially black women.

OpenID doktorjeep May 11, 2017 12:44 PM  

"After 400 years, the immigrants to Egypt were still not Egyptians."

The appearance of a lot of green frogs coincided with them moving out.

Blogger J.M. May 11, 2017 12:53 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:"As a Roman Catholic, I have to suggest that in whatever future the United States, or its successor states possess, Jews and Catholics(or rather traditional Catholic ethnic identities) should not be permitted to vote; ever."

Besides the fact that you are not a real Roman Catholic if you think that,


That's just dumb. There's nothing in Catholic doctrine that requires one to vote, or to support the concept of voting at all. If anything, Catholics should be more disposed to limited monarchy than to mass democracy.



I should have been clearer I guess...I assume he is another Catholic who thinks Bergoglio is a pope as well as the rest of the post-conciliar men who occupied the chair...99% of all supposed catholics either traditional or conventional fall into this category.

But the most important point I was trying to make is this: Protestants destroyed their own utopia long before Catholics had any influence. They are the women-worshippers who begot feminism (Declaration of Sentiments, 1st and 2nd wave feminism), the Jew-worshipers who, to this day, still think that abetting Jewish evil will get more blessings for America, etc. Irish were brought by Lincoln (English-descended protestant)to be used as a cannon fodder. Wilson (another English-descended protestant) was the one who created the Federal Reserve and embarked the U.S. war machinery in a tour which ended up in the destruction of Continental Europe...

Regarding voting, Democracy is not the system for to each his own. However as I said before, more than a hundred years of WASP supremacy and they laid waste to their country. I don't deny that immigrants influence has been harmful as well as beneficial. But I am not arguing for mass migration of any kind.

Anonymous Grayman May 11, 2017 12:56 PM  

@129 ELizabeth

To be brutally honest, when America breaks up it makes no sense to allow large black populations to remain. They would end up looking like South Africa, unable to maintain a western infrastructure and promptly begin looking to grab resources from the nearest non-black community.
Allowing blacks to continue remaining as part of a permanent underclass is foolish at best. We should make the left and the blacks follow their own rhetoric. The whites are to racists and oppressive. We cant change our behavior so blacks have to be removed to Africa where they can be part of black culture and not oppressed by evil racists whites.

Blogger Alexandros May 11, 2017 12:59 PM  

I don't think it's fair to lump all protestants together into the same basket, but I otherwise understand the sentiment of them ruining the accomplishments of their forebears. That doesn't excuse the rape of their civilization by the barbarians though.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 11, 2017 1:07 PM  

@Elizabeth

"In 1866, the Fenian Brotherhood repeatedly raided Canada and tried to start a war with the UK, the greatest military and economic power in the world at the time."

That's an interesting one. Never heard of it before. Though it sounds like there was a significant amount of "F--k the Brits. They deserve it for not supporting our side in the war" attitude on the part of the US government that enabled the Fenian attacks:

"Large quantities of arms were purchased, and preparations were openly made by the Roberts faction for a co-ordinated series of raids into Canada, which the United States government took no major steps to prevent. Many in the US administration were not indisposed to the movement because of Britain's failure to support the Union during the civil war. Roberts' "Secretary for War" was General T. W. Sweeny, who was struck off the American army list from January 1866 to November 1866 to allow him to organise the raids."

Sweeny arrested, but quickly released, and was not only allowed back into the army, but promoted to Brigadier General after leading the raids. Sounds like the US government was on board with aggravating the British, but not with actually starting a full-scale war. Though if the Fenians had met with more success, who knows? Plausible deniability.

Blogger tz May 11, 2017 1:22 PM  

So Pharoah's ultimate retirement was similarly a pyramid scheme and they needed immigrants to keep it going a few years longer.
I wonder if they had a one-child policy (defacto or dejure), which would make the 10th plague even more serious.

Blogger tz May 11, 2017 1:29 PM  

@95 I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

You forgot the women, out of closet Gays and Trannies who you can now fight and bleed with.

In WW1, US Soldiers fought along side the British and French - did they become real Americans? Did TE Lawrence's Arabs become Englishmen? ANZAC?
WW2 - Alongside Stalin's Russians and others.
Koreans from the Korean war?
The South Vietnamese?
The Iraqis and Kurds?

But to ask perhaps the key question, what, or who were you and your multicultural brigade fighting, and fighting for? What "American" interest? The Antifa are now also fighting and bleeding. Neocon never-win wars that might benefit only Israel? Nation building - trying to turn Kabul or Mosul into Stockhol... oh... Zurich? To make some other part of the world safe for abortion and gay marriage?

I'm curious how America was aided by your fighting and bleeding.

Blogger William Meisheid May 11, 2017 1:29 PM  

@VD "Perhaps it is the wages of abortion. I don't know, I merely observe."

Accurate observation, but one thing among many, though it is the worst, this offering of children to Baal.

Blogger J.M. May 11, 2017 1:31 PM  

VD wrote:

You're wrong. The Irish Catholics, and to a lesser extent, the Italian Catholics, were important allies to the Jews in dismantling the historical English Protestant American nation.

People need to stop being butthurt and denying history due to their identity. You don't weaken my case when you do that. You underline it.

I understand that your focus is on immigration (despite the fact that is a symptom of a larger problem) but here you are just twisting the interpretation Vox, and call me idiot if you like.

I'm not twisting anything. You are trying to switch "hospitality" for "full citizenship rights". Stop cucking and being dishonest. What was the "rule" that prevented the Israelites from becoming Egyptians in 400 years?

If I am not mistaken, what the Bible depicts as curses is not immigration itself but oppression by foreigners, always the result of disobedience to God's law.

You are utterly mistaken. Mass immigration is always a curse for the native people; this is both solid history and solid theology. Moreover, you are implicitly assuming that the USA is not being cursed by disobedience to God's Law despite suffering the largest invasion of foreigners in human history.

Perhaps it is the wages of abortion. I don't know, I merely observe.



Irish were lured and brought into the U.S. by an English descended majority administration (Lincoln). There was no Irish/Italian/German/Dutch or Jewish descended president opening the gates to massive immigration from Ireland or Europe for that matter.

Before You go it's not cucking, it's called staying true to the historical record or in this case biblical record. I am not switching hospitality to full citizenship. Moreover under the biblical model only descendants of immigrants (minimum third generation) are to be considered citizens. If you have a problem with that argue with God/Moses or whoever you think wrote that verse. It's interesting that you didn't address that point that was very clear in my post. I don't need to resort to lies or distortions to defend something that is self-evident...mass immigration==national suicide.

By the way, you didn't say mass immigration was the curse, you said immigrants are the curse (if that's the case you are curse upon the land of Italy...applying your logic that is).

Note that he was a third-generation immigrant. Celler is an excellent demonstration of why God considers immigrants to be a curse upon the land, and why they and their descendants should never be permitted to participate in the political process in any society that wishes to maintain its national identity.

Regarding the Israelites, thanks You just confirmed that religion is a greater factor for assimilation or resistance to it, than even race when it comes to immigrants (Ancient Israelites and Egyptians of yore were close enough genetically)along with numbers.

Sorry for the rant and If I made a mistake in the interpretation of your ideas, I stand corrected, but I think you were clear.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents May 11, 2017 1:33 PM  

@95 Billy Poop
I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

Most of the men in US combat arms are white. A solid plurality of them are Southron. The people you hate.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 11, 2017 1:38 PM  

J.M. Catholics are immigrants whose influence was opposed by nearly all of the Founders. Eventually things changed to JFK.

@46 VFM #6306
In many if not most cases, Catholics, especially those of Anglo-Saxon background, were being constantly hit with essentially "Muh Russia" accusations (or treason and death, under Queen Elizabeth), because they came to the conclusion that their national church was holding heretical dogmas and couldn't in good faith belong to it.

Meanwhile, the Papacy was ideally meant to be a sort of SCOTUS for theological and metaphysical disputes, but it never managed to rise above the taint of political influence.

You're wrong. The Irish Catholics, and to a lesser extent, the Italian Catholics, were important allies to the Jews in dismantling the historical English Protestant American nation.

People need to stop being butthurt and denying history due to their identity. You don't weaken my case when you do that. You underline it.


@51 VD
To be fair and consistent, we should throw in liberal Protestants as well, such as Scandinavian Lutherans or, more importantly, the New England Brahmin types.

For that matter, it didn't take Catholic influence to wreck the U.K. or Sweden. I suspect if the U.S. had never accumulated a significant Catholic population, it would still have ended up like them. At the most fundamental level, I think you're somewhat overdoing the Catholic role in the destruction of America. MPAI, and MCAI too, so I think it's mainly a matter of being malleable tools rather than malicious agents.

Especially considering that their participation in destroying America went against very basic Catholic doctrines. I'm a traditional Catholic myself (like J.M. here) and I find "Catholic" Democrats such as Pelosi or Biden to be completely inexplicable. And being of about half WASP background, I even find Catholics somewhat alien. But at least the white ones are tilting more and more Republican as "Catholic" Democrats finally fess up and admit they aren't actually Catholic any more.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 11, 2017 1:44 PM  

@W. Lindsay Wheeler

"I am in the process of reading a book by an American Leftist/Socialist, John Nichols, The 'S' Word; The Short History of an American Tradition....Socialism It is an excellent book, great research."

Interesting review, especially the Paine/ Marx/ Engels connection. Remarkable how a lot of these ideas go all the way back to the Enlightenment. Rousseau was the Dewey of the 18th century and so forth. The same philosophy that enabled the development of the modern world may well have contained the seeds of its destruction.

Blogger flyingtiger May 11, 2017 1:48 PM  

I am glad that someone has noted the role of Celler. Ted Kennedy took too much credit for this. I hope people remember the immigration bill George H>W> Bush signed. It was just as important.

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 1:49 PM  

I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought

I was a medic in the military and when I got jumped by 5 "people of color" , that just so happened to be all combat arms from a rival unit, after using the bases ATM they were crying to the MP's that I fought dirty. If attacked by a pack of black keep moving and they will get in each others way, black/brown does worse on the spatial orientation part of g weighted IQ tests.


slaughtered at the wall in Fredricksburg but held the wall at the angle during the Battle of Gettysburg - MANY OF WHOM WERE FRESH OFF THE BOAT

The north threw fresh off the boat Irish conscripts at the south until the south ran out of bullets. That's why Irish had riots.

I DARE you to go to Walter Reed and tell those wounded and maimed who aren't white that they aren't real Americans

I would probably be too busy reporting jacho violations to make it to the freshly wounded.

Looking at Israel, Ashkenazi Jews have a per capita income of about 40,000

A plumber in Israel is probably smarter than the average jew at Harvard.

You forgot the women, out of closet Gays and Trannies who you can now fight and bleed with

I would post the words to the song "Queen Berets" but Kratman criticized it before.

OT: This weekend I had on my "white" shirt and a tranny's mom made it apologize to me for being rude. They were about as tall standing up as I was sitting down. I said:

"no need for a fake apology it didn't bother me, in fact I would prefer that he/she/it was more outspoken. You see Ron Paul talked for decades about western values & sound money but converted less people than Colin Kirkpatrick did in 5 min."

I was flippant when I said it, but sadly realized it might be true later that Kirkpatrick and the convicted Megan's law offender that pushed the NC tranny bathroom bill did more for western civilization than Ron Paul did in his lifetime.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 1:49 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:When the money runs out, things will turn ugly. A lot of people will end up dead. But, the survivors will be better behaved because they won't be able to force other people to pay their bills and take care of them. Society will be much tougher, more judgmental, more masculine you might say.

The funny thing is, the money already ran out. For 35 years it's all been put on the credit card because the cash was insufficient to pay the ongoing bills.

All consumption occurs in Real Time. Issuing debt in order to spend doesn't consume the future (which hasn't been produced yet.) It simply consumes MORE of the present (while making people THINK they still have their cake as they eat it too.)

Metaphor: A farmer cuts lumber to build barns and burn for fuel. For a while he plants new trees, but his wife & he decide they want more barns and more heat so he cuts faster than trees are replaced. When the trees were all cut, he begins to tear out lumber from the barns in order to heat his home and erect other barns, but issues himself IOU-WOOD, to be fulfilled in various future increments (13-week, 6 month, 1 year, 2 year, 5 year, 10 year, and 30 year increments dominate his promises.)

In the short term, when nearby promises are due, he simply rips out MORE planks to cover them. As long as the barns APPEAR to still be whole, this game can continue indefinitely. Eventually, however, a stiff breeze knocks down his barns like dominoes.

We're living during the largest occult destruction of capital in history. When the blinders finally fall, the US (and world) economy will suddenly appear as if it was bombed from Mars.

Industry was pushed out in favor of make-work in the "industries" of medical services, higher ed, welfare administration and pushing around accounting fictions (AKA the FIRE economy.)

It's all an illusion. It's always an illusion. Collectively, we see only that which the herd sees. Wait until "we" flip from pseudo-fears about "climate change" to very REAL SHTF fears about contaminated drinking water, nutrient-free food, pandemic, collapse of fisheries or cropland, etc.

Anyone who wants to be FAMOUS in 10 years should be working now to be the next Rachael Carson (well, there are hundreds of people working on that, and only one of them will be spontaneously selected for the "honor.")


You are correct. Great analogy. There isn't enough money in this country to pay off the various levels of governments' debt.

A friend of mine, my now-retired financial adviser, met Warren Rudman at the Mayflower Hotel in DC back in the 1980s. He told her something to the effect that, "This is our last chance to get the budget under control. If we don't do it now, we never will." He was right. She and Vox both predict that the dirt will hit the fan around 2032. She also said that eventually must return to a hard money currency, backed with gold, silver, platinum, copper, even farm land. All the money in the world is fiat currency. We're lucky that, for now, the US is the world's reserve currency, so we're spreading our fecklessness all over the world.

Anonymous Stickwick May 11, 2017 1:50 PM  

Billy Ray: I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

You have no idea how many here have served. And you're too emotionally incontinent to understand the point being made.

I don't have any comment on whether non-whites in the American military are actually Americans, but I will say this. My husband joined a foreign army many years ago to help fight a brutal and devastating war, and despite literally shedding his own blood for them, that didn't make him a countryman to those men he fought with. They were deeply grateful for his service, but not in a million years would they have regarded him as one of their own.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 1:58 PM  

And yet an alien became great grandmother to King David. "Do not urge me to leave you or to return from following you. For where you go I will go, and where you lodge I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there will I be buried. May the LORD do so to me and more also if anything but death parts me from you."

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 1:59 PM  

"do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another."

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:00 PM  

“If your brother becomes impoverished and his means falter in your proximity, you shall strengthen him—stranger or resident—so that he can live with you” (Leviticus 25:35)

Blogger Shimshon May 11, 2017 2:01 PM  

@146 Ruth completely renounced her people to join the Jewish people. Who is renouncing their ancestry today?

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:01 PM  

"The community is to have the same rules for you and for the foreigner residing among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the foreigner shall be the same before the LORD:"

Blogger Shimshon May 11, 2017 2:01 PM  

Uh oh. Did I touch some poop?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 11, 2017 2:02 PM  

@98 Only the New International Version says that. According to every other major translation, the woman agreed with Jesus. She didn't argue with him.

She accepted her lesser status, acknowledged that she was a dog - but that she was HIS dog, and he her master. And it was only because of the unusual loyalty and faith she exhibited that Jesus granted her request.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:02 PM  

"You shall not oppress a stranger, since you yourselves know the feelings of a stranger, for you also were strangers in the land of Egypt."

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:03 PM  

"Leviticus 19:9-10
'Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. 'Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God."

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:03 PM  

Leviticus 23:22

'When you reap the harvest of your land, moreover, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field nor gather the gleaning of your harvest; you are to leave them for the needy and the alien. I am the LORD your God.'"

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 11, 2017 2:03 PM  

Black students at UC Santa Cruz make demands.
Administration concedes on all demands after three days.

After three days of occupation by students of Kerr Hall, Chancellor George Blumenthal agreed to give all black and Caribbean-identified students a 4-year housing guarantee to live in the Rosa Parks African American Themed House; bring back the building’s lounge; paint its exterior the “Pan-Afrikan colors” of red, green and black; and force all new incoming students to go through a mandatory diversity competency training.

Notice that it's not just about American black students any more, now it's got to include colonizers as well. Centimeter given? Kilometer taken.

Guess what happens next? More demands

The alliance’s three additional demands are that the university purchase a property “to serve as a low income housing cooperative for historically disadvantaged students,” that the university “allocate $100,000” for Santa Cruz’s “SOMeCA” student organization support department, and that the university create either a Black Studies department or a Black Studies Minor or Major.

Echoes of the 60's, should work out well.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:03 PM  

Leviticus 25:35-37
'Now in case a countryman of yours becomes poor and his means with regard to you falter, then you are to sustain him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. 'Do not take usurious interest from him, but revere your God, that your countryman may live with you. 'You shall not give him your silver at interest, nor your food for gain.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:04 PM  

Leviticus 19:34

'The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.

Blogger beerme May 11, 2017 2:04 PM  

@151 You touched the poop Shimshon, now go wash your hands.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:05 PM  

Deuteronomy 23:7-8
"You shall not detest an Edomite, for he is your brother; you shall not detest an Egyptian, because you were an alien in his land. "The sons of the third generation who are born to them may enter the assembly of the LORD.

Blogger VD May 11, 2017 2:05 PM  

Irish were lured and brought into the U.S. by an English descended majority administration (Lincoln). There was no Irish/Italian/German/Dutch or Jewish descended president opening the gates to massive immigration from Ireland or Europe for that matter.

Lured? They were devoid of agency and helpless to resist Lincoln's seductive ways?

By the way, you didn't say mass immigration was the curse, you said immigrants are the curse (if that's the case you are curse upon the land of Italy...applying your logic that is).

I'm not about to discuss anything with anyone who brings up micro in a macro discussion. Save your moronic rhetoric for someone susceptible to it.

Immigration, and immigrants, are, quite literally, a Biblical curse on the land. You can dance and cuck all you like. But that is an undeniable fact.

Blogger Almodavar May 11, 2017 2:05 PM  

Leviticus 19:33

'When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 11, 2017 2:08 PM  

@Almodavar

Fail. None of those command us to allow limitless numbers of strangers into our lands.

Blogger beerme May 11, 2017 2:12 PM  

I don't want to lessen the well deserved recognition of the damage the Irish have done to America, but similar numbers of Germans also served in the Union Army. The Irish Potato famine and the expulsion of the German '48ers was nothing short of a disaster for pre-imperial America, because the Yankees took them in and aimed them south.

Anonymous Sam the Man May 11, 2017 2:16 PM  

Billy Ray

By chance I spent some times in the reserves and spent some time at Fort Benning doing instruction/training when it was still the Infantry/airborne school. Also spent time in Fort Indiantown in PA

The combat and direct support arms are overwhelmingly, at least in the US Army, White as of a decade ago. Second most numerous identifiable group was Hispanic, though they were maybe 10~13%. Blacks a distant 3rd at well under 10% but over 5%, maybe 1 in 12. That was over 10~12 years ago but after the start of the global war of stupidity. The majority of the guys coming forward to fight for a sense of duty were whites, at least in the Army at that time when deployments were heavy (2005 to 2010).

Now a fair number of the Hispanics who were not Texans (many of those folks are Americans and are Hispanic in name only) did not speak English all that well and were here to get the citizenship track by serving. What would have been called mercenaries in the past. That was regular Army.

The National Guard is much more ethnic, at least in NY where I saw it, but most of those units would be what used to be called service support. but even there the wall of dead at Camp Smith was overwhelmingly white. Over 70 % is my guess of the dead in Iraq/Afghanistan were white, might have been higher I never really looked that, just their ages and units.

The one exception to that was Puerto Ricans, there seemed to be a lot of them and they were good soldiers, but they seemed to look at those in their unit as gang. Different way of life.

Not totally negating your comment, they have some merit in the sense that many minorities serve honorably, but from my observation a lot of them were looking to get something out of it, whereas the white guys were serving for a sense of honor and the chance to go kill something. Big difference in attitude. There are a lot of stories of stuff that would make the difference apparent, but would take too long to relate, so the gross generalization must stand. Of course I saw very little of the big picture as a part timer, so feel free to correct whatever impression I have that is wrong.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 2:17 PM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets May 11, 2017 2:20 PM  

This is the difference between Islam and Christianity. In the former, attempting to reinterpret scripture to prove your point will get you beheaded. In the latter, those bent on self-destruction do so in order to force you into their suicide pact.

Why I gave up on libertarianism? Anything that promises to be One Size Fits All, All The Time is unnatural and will eventually be swept away by God, Mother Nature, or whatever actually runs this universe.

I sincerely wish those fervently devoted to Equalist Dogma would follow the example of Amy Biehl and David Ruenzel and leave the rest of us the xxxx alone.

Blogger Shimshon May 11, 2017 2:22 PM  

"Immigration, and immigrants, are, quite literally, a Biblical curse on the land. You can dance and cuck all you like. But that is an undeniable fact."

Can confirm. In the litany of curses towards the end of Leviticus, the verse says:

And you will I scatter among the nations, and I will draw out the sword after you; and your land shall be a desolation, and your cities shall be a waste.

Rashi says this is actually a hidden blessing among the curses. When we are exiled, no foreign power will be able to dominate or colonize our land successfully.

Blogger Justin C May 11, 2017 2:29 PM  

OT but how do you regard people who are members of federally recognized Indian tribes with actually smidgen amounts of native American ancestry? Some tribes look mostly African American or mulatto. A lot of them have white people with similar amounts of Indiana blood. I'm just curious where people speculate the demarcation lines are

Blogger Gaiseric May 11, 2017 2:36 PM  

Billy Ray wrote:I HATE how all you alt right butt wipes who have NEVER even driven by a military base let a lone actually served, tell me how the brown, black and yellow skinned people I fought and bled with are not real Americans.

You worthless POS sleep soundly and safely because of the sacrifices made by those you despise because of their skin color

Billy Ray; protecting my freedoms from the tyrants of Fallujah who wanted to attack the 1st Amendment.

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 2:42 PM  

169 If only 2 Indians wrote a book and called it 'Cuckservative".

Billy Ray; protecting my freedoms from the tyrants of Fallujah who wanted to attack the 1st Amendment

Better yet protecting us from arabs who would toss a foreign travel nurse into jail for drinking water when it was over 100 deg out during Ramadan, oh wait that was Kuwaitis after our tax dollars put them back on the map.

Blogger frigger611 May 11, 2017 2:43 PM  

What Billy Ray does not realize is that many of us thought and sounded exactly like him 15 or 20 years ago. Lifting the veil, tearing off the band-aid...whatever. Takes time.

If he's as brave intellectually as he thinks he is physically, and hangs around here for more than a few months, his future self will have a lot of splainin to do to his former self.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club May 11, 2017 2:51 PM  

Rosa Parks African American Themed House

These SJW-themed Disney attractions are getting out of control!


Silly Ray - I usually sleep soundly mainly because of two things of color: the Atlantic and the Pacific. Unfortunately, all of our current existential threats are internal.

As for what was "fought and bled" for by US troops since 1945, it's best summed up in the following:

"When a nation re-awakens, its finest sons are prepared to give their lives for its liberation. When empires are threatened with collapse, they are prepared to sacrifice their non-commissioned officers." - Menachem Begin, The Revolt

Blogger Felix Bellator May 11, 2017 2:52 PM  

I miss the days when we just sent the problem kids to Boy's Town and never saw them again. I am not sure how those decisions were made. But none of the reasonable kids ever disappeared, so it seemed to work well. It was even a bit mysterious.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 3:17 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:@Elizabeth

"This is particularly noticeable with blacks. The underclass is producing the majority of black babies and it sets the tone for black culture."

Black culture is also affected by things like gangsta rap and movies, that tend to originate with a different group.

Also, it's not just higher fertility rates with lower class blacks-- it's also lower fertility rates with "talented tenth" blacks, especially black women.


Absolutely! One, maybe two at most.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 3:20 PM  

Grayman wrote:@129 ELizabeth

To be brutally honest, when America breaks up it makes no sense to allow large black populations to remain. They would end up looking like South Africa, unable to maintain a western infrastructure and promptly begin looking to grab resources from the nearest non-black community.

Allowing blacks to continue remaining as part of a permanent underclass is foolish at best. We should make the left and the blacks follow their own rhetoric. The whites are to racists and oppressive. We cant change our behavior so blacks have to be removed to Africa where they can be part of black culture and not oppressed by evil racists whites.



Unfortunately, I agree with you. I don't think that whites and blacks can live together in peace. Blacks have a huge grudge against whites for slavery, Jim Crow, and most of all, the fact that are dependent upon us to live a decent, first world life. I don't see any of these black lives matter types leaving the US.

Blogger Elizabeth May 11, 2017 3:24 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:@Elizabeth

"In 1866, the Fenian Brotherhood repeatedly raided Canada and tried to start a war with the UK, the greatest military and economic power in the world at the time."

That's an interesting one. Never heard of it before. Though it sounds like there was a significant amount of "F--k the Brits. They deserve it for not supporting our side in the war" attitude on the part of the US government that enabled the Fenian attacks:

"Large quantities of arms were purchased, and preparations were openly made by the Roberts faction for a co-ordinated series of raids into Canada, which the United States government took no major steps to prevent. Many in the US administration were not indisposed to the movement because of Britain's failure to support the Union during the civil war. Roberts' "Secretary for War" was General T. W. Sweeny, who was struck off the American army list from January 1866 to November 1866 to allow him to organise the raids."

Sweeny arrested, but quickly released, and was not only allowed back into the army, but promoted to Brigadier General after leading the raids. Sounds like the US government was on board with aggravating the British, but not with actually starting a full-scale war. Though if the Fenians had met with more success, who knows? Plausible deniability.


Spite towards the British? Plausible deniability, indeed. I can't see how getting into a war with the world's premier economic and military power would have been of any help to the US. 'Tis a puzzlement.

Blogger SirHamster May 11, 2017 3:29 PM  

William Meisheid wrote:@VD "Perhaps it is the wages of abortion. I don't know, I merely observe."

Accurate observation, but one thing among many, though it is the worst, this offering of children to Baal.


We deserved Obama, and we have earned the judgment that is stored up for future release.

Trump is a mercy, but America still needs repentance.

Anonymous kfg May 11, 2017 3:35 PM  

"'When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong."

When a horde of strangers invades your land and turns you from your native ways, you shall kill them all.

-- Many, many verses.

Blogger tz May 11, 2017 3:47 PM  

@176 The "grudge" can be gotten over, but the problem is if you insist they correct their character so live the prosperous nuclear family life of the 1950s (and there was no "Jim Crow" in the north), I doubt they would agree.

Someone needs to do an economic analysis of the federal largess going into the current black communities that rotates about and if it was cut off.

One thing that has changed from when I was a child to now is we made a clear distinction between what someone was capable of and what they were willing to do, and the latter was used to push virtue. Now both sides seem to ignore evidence that is a defect of virtue and the will and want to blame genetics or something else that is unalterable. But even there, they will say all humans have an r/K switch. If things go south, only the Ks will survive, but it may be separately.

And on Abortion - 60 million dead babies, 65 million immigrants, sounds about right.

Anonymous Billy Ray May 11, 2017 4:05 PM  

You ass wipes don't even know. I read the Tom Kratman novels. I have a black son. I'm am a proud Oathkeeper and if I ever met any of you Alt-right Nazi pussies in person I will punch your lights out.

Blogger beerme May 11, 2017 4:07 PM  

I have a black son.
Every. single. time.

Anonymous Jeff May 11, 2017 4:15 PM  

In their fight for minority status in America, the Jews have an advantage over the Chinese. They are "fellow white people" who can blend in, at least when it suits. The Chinese not so much.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 11, 2017 4:18 PM  

Billy Ray wrote:I have a black son.
I think you mean your wife has a Black son.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 11, 2017 4:19 PM  

@182 Dude, you should have proven your manhood by fathering your own children. Talking shit on the internet is a lousy and really kind of sad substitute.

Anonymous Mr. Rational May 11, 2017 4:20 PM  

VD wrote:Perhaps it is the wages of abortion.
Shelley vs. Kraemer, 1948.
Brown vs. Board of Education, 1954
Various Cibil Rites acts, 1964 & 1968.
Hart-Celler, 1965.

Roe v. Wade, 1973.  If you think the former are the wages of abortion, you're deluded.

Note that W. Germany managed to lose its war of the bedroom despite a very firm abortion ban.

Blogger frigger611 May 11, 2017 4:20 PM  

Billy Ray, but can you drop me at 500 yards?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/5tqobk/if_necessary_i_can_drop_them_at_500_yards/

Anonymous BBGKB May 11, 2017 4:25 PM  

I read the Tom Kratman novels

even faggots read Kratman novels ;)

pussies in person I will punch your lights out

There is one high up in the garage I have been meaning to change.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club May 11, 2017 4:30 PM  

I know we're not supposed to touch the poop, but what about at least kicking it off the sidewalk into the gutter?

"Punch your lights out"? It's an ITG (Internet's Toughest Grandpa) sighting.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 11, 2017 4:34 PM  

This one reminds me of the clown with the K-Bar and the son who was raped in the WalMart baffroom.

Anonymous Anonymous May 11, 2017 4:41 PM  

182 - Which is it? Are you an Oathkeeper who will keep his oath to preserve the constitution, including the first amendment, or do you plan to use your fists to take away the first amendment rights of the Alt-Right, just like the Antifa do?

Blogger DonReynolds May 11, 2017 4:42 PM  

The analogy is not helpful because adding milk to coffee does not frighten anyone. If we add too much milk, we end up drinking mostly milk. If we add very little milk, we still have coffee to drink.

My first boss at public health said it was like mixing dung and ice cream. Which is a far better analogy really. No matter how much ice cream is added to dung, we do not get good tasting dung.....we get bad tasting ice cream. This is the nature of pollution, which contaminates whatever it is added to. There simply is no acceptable mix of toxic and non-toxic substances. Any is simply too much. Poison remains poisonous, even when diluted substantially, but closer to its pure form, it retains all of the toxicity. Many people are starting to realize this.

Yes, we are becoming polluted at best and very likely poisoned by elements who claim to despise everything about us. The Liberals have assured us that they do not mean it or they will change their mind later, but history does not support that as a fact we can depend upon. Over a thousand years later, the Muslims still say they hate and despise us and the way we live. We need to start believing them and act accordingly.

Anonymous Sam thr Man May 11, 2017 4:42 PM  

Billy Ray, exactly what is your background? I ask as you coma across as pretty bold, wondering how well your résumé backs that up, other than having rad Kratmann Novels (which I understand puts hair on your chest, unless you do not want it, then it takes it off). Not a question to compare penis size or anything like that, just wondering how you came at this.

Second, why do you assume folks here are NAZIs.

They are not, at least as I can tell, they simply tell it like they "think" it is. Free speech and all that. Of course folks can disagree, but what exact posts here have lead you to believe folks here are NAZIs?

Now be honest, part of the rules of the Blog require folks to answer direct questions.

Stick around you may find folks are not as bad as you expect them to be.

Anonymous Pennywise May 11, 2017 4:42 PM  

"Can confirm. In the litany of curses towards the end of Leviticus, the verse says:
And you will I scatter among the nations, and I will draw out the sword after you; and your land shall be a desolation, and your cities shall be a waste."

Can deny.

The passage squarely deals with God who has set the blessing before His followers, new and old, when obedient and a curse to make them miserable when disobedient. They are brought to run by running afoul of God's commandments and by showing contempt of His corrections. He Himself would be opposed to them, and they would incur His wrath.

God will pass judgement on those who abuse those immigrants who have brought Him into their heart. He placed no "curse" on immigrants.

Blogger Sheila4g May 11, 2017 4:54 PM  

I think I recognize Billy Ray from comments at Occidental Observer. He's trolling here and his aggressive "color blind civic nationalist" persona is pitch perfect.

Anonymous deplorable May 11, 2017 5:00 PM  

"You ass wipes don't even know. I read the Tom Kratman novels."

Ok ilk cut it out. BTW you forgot to add "Bob" in the name of your caricature, like in "Billy Ray Bob" fighting for out freedumbs.

Blogger DonReynolds May 11, 2017 5:10 PM  

@165 Beerme
"The Irish Potato famine and the expulsion of the German '48ers was nothing short of a disaster for pre-imperial America, because the Yankees took them in and aimed them south."

I cannot say if it was a deliberate policy or a weird coincidence, but often times during the civil war battles, regiments of Tennessee Confederates were opposite the battle lines from Union troops from Wisconsin. Many of the Union troops were German immigrants, as you described, raising the complaint that the Union troops did not even speak English. They were Germans and they spoke German and their camp life and food reflected their ethnicity.

This was reinforced when I visited the Civil War Museum in Madison, Wisconsin, which displayed numerous Confederate flags captured in battle during the civil war....many of which were from Tennessee regiments of the Confederate Army.

(The odd fact to add to this story is the fact that Tennessee was the only Confederate state that provided more volunteers to the Union Army than to the Confederate. Lincoln picked a Tennessee Democrat as his running mate in 1864....Andrew Johnson....to create the National Unity ticket.)

Anonymous Anonymous May 11, 2017 5:33 PM  

104 - There were plenty of Republicans among the 1920s Klansmen.

96 - We could protect ourselves from Al-Qaeda without spending one dollar or shedding a single drop of blood, if we simply mustered the moral courage to end immigration from the Middle East. The wars we've fought recently did nothing to protect us from Al-Qaeda - we imported potential militants, and terrorist attacks occurred despite our wars. Our multi-trillion dollar defense budget couldn't defend us from 19 box cutters on 9/11, or some modified legal fireworks in a pressure cooker in Boston. I would go further, and say that our wars actually benefitted Al-Qaeda and its offshoots such as ISIS. We protected the Gulf states, the main funders of radical Sunni terrorism. We destroyed Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and Yemen, creating power vacuums which were filled by Al-Qaeda and similar groups, the very people who attacked us on 9/11. When you "served" your intentions were good, but you didn't serve the interests of the American people - you served the interests of Saudi Arabia and Israel. The people who really "served" were the immigration restriction activists. They won't be receiving a pension, and they are demonized, not praised, by the media, but they helped keep the American people safe by limiting the amount of immigration from the Middle East, thus limiting the amount of radical Sunni terrorism in our homeland.

That is why I didn't join the military after 9/11. I could see the neocons were ginning up a war against Iraq, and I knew that killing some poor fools who had been drafted into Saddam's army would do nothing to advance the interests of the America or strike back at the people who did 9/11. My friends in the military had just helped the Muslim Albanians ethnically cleanse the Christian Serbs from Kosovo, and Bush was showing no signs of doing the obvious and banning immigration from the Middle East - I had zero confidence in the establishment and no desire to kill on their orders.

If you look at American history, the wars that really mattered for our people, the wars that gave us our homeland, were the wars fought 1607-1890 against the Indians (including Mexicans)and their French, Spanish, and British allies. These wars were fought by the pioneers themselves, and by state militias, sometimes with help from the (very small) regular military. The massive modern military hasn't added a square inch to our homeland, or protected our civilians from any threats.

Without the moral courage to face the true fats of the world, physical courage can be useless or even harmful.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents May 11, 2017 5:40 PM  

@182 Billy Ray Troll
You ass wipes don't even know. I read the Tom Kratman novels. I have a black son. I'm am a proud Oathkeeper and if I ever met any of you Alt-right Nazi pussies in person I will punch your lights out.

Ok, that's one "ass wipe", one "Tom Kratman novels", one "black son", one "Oathkeeper" and one "Alt-right Nazi". "Punch lights out" is a free space.

BINGO! I has Troll Bingo! What do I win?

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