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Tuesday, May 23, 2017

The only way

There's only one way Britain should respond to attacks such as Manchester. That is by carrying on exactly as before.
- The Independent

Doing nothing is not a solution. Carrying on exactly as before is submission and surrender. But it is true, there is only one way Britain should respond to attacks such as Manchester, and that is Reconquista 2.0.

Reconquista is the relatively peaceful, civilized, and historically-proven-effective way. But if the multiculturalists, globalists, quislings, and cuckservatives absolutely insist on standing in the way, there is an obvious alternative. However, they'll probably like that even less, considering that it involves them too.

Nationalism intensifies. And history's great tide is going to wash over the world whether we will or no. The coming season became absolutely inevitable, and totally unavoidable, once these waves of immigration into the West were permitted to take place. I warned you. Many others warned you. Even before I was born, Enoch Powell warned the British people of "rivers of blood" that would flow throughout Great Britain.

Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history.

We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen.

Perhaps the fathers and brothers of all the murdered children of Manchester will content themselves with candlelight vigils and platitudes, as so many others have for the last 16 years. But sooner or later, one of them will not, and that man will make Anders Breivik look like a moderate.

There is going to be a lot of talk about thoughts and prayers, as always. But, as it is written, do not neglect to leave room for God's wrath.

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150 Comments:

Blogger Esmar Tuek May 23, 2017 4:39 AM  

isn't it a bit odd that the day some info on Seth rich was gonna come out, we have another religion of peace attack?

Even if it's just a coincidence, it shows how they don't really need to cover stuff up 100%, the news cycle will move the vast majority of ppl on.

Anonymous I wrote the Magna Carta May 23, 2017 4:41 AM  

Repealing Britain's gun ban would be one response.

Blogger Shane Sullivan May 23, 2017 4:42 AM  

I wonder what shape the next Reconquista will take, since Europeans, at least from an outsiders perspective, seem very indifferent or outright hostile towards Christianity; this attitude is most notable amongst the English, who were being criticized for a lack of true faith all the way back in Wilberforce's day.

Blogger David Power May 23, 2017 4:57 AM  

If the cost of keeping wages low is a few dead teenagers, so be it.

Blogger APL May 23, 2017 4:59 AM  

"I wonder what shape the next Reconquista will take .. "

We have an precident.

Anonymous Rocklea May 23, 2017 5:04 AM  

As the reprisals start and increase in ferocity, as they will, I expect the MSM to double down. I look forward to the day when some know-it-all BBC bint is moralizing at some event, and she gets punched full force in the face live for all to see, as the mob beys for blood.
Saint Breivik, pray for us.

Blogger Shane Sullivan May 23, 2017 5:17 AM  

@6 Just imagining that brought an smile to my face. I'm only saddened that White Americans will probably be the last to publicly act in such a way, even though we're the best equipped to handle such an uprising - at least weapon wise.

Blogger SteelPalm May 23, 2017 5:19 AM  

Excellent, heartfelt Darkstream earlier today, Vox.

I am far more uncertain about the future than you are; of course there will eventually be a more serious response to the invasion of the West. But who will win, and what will come of it is anyone's guess. I'm reasonably optimistic, but don't pretend to see the future.

The Independent's pathetic appeal also struck me as the best defining reaction to the latest jihadi attack. The elite's desire for people to carry on and continue ignoring the degradation of their societies contrasted with the citizens desperate for a change to the trend. Any change, in some cases.

Anonymous Millenium May 23, 2017 5:19 AM  

Repealing Britain's gun ban would be one response.

As long as the invaders are outbreeding the natives that is, at best, a delaying tactic. At worst you are merely arming the jihadis in England.

Anonymous oneself May 23, 2017 5:22 AM  

We don't even know the background of attack nor attacker's identity yet. By the looks of it, he's British citizen, and chances are that attack isn't religiously/ideologically inspired.

Anonymous Pug May 23, 2017 5:27 AM  

Framed picture of St. Breivik should be placed at the obligatory improvised shrine for the victims.

Anonymous Bz May 23, 2017 5:27 AM  

If we kill our enemies, they win.

St Breivik, lead us.

Anonymous MawBTS May 23, 2017 5:30 AM  

Breivik's not looking too healthy.

Imagine being in solitary confinement 23 hours a day. Dude's probably wanking like a chimp.

Blogger Shane Sullivan May 23, 2017 5:30 AM  

@10 Could you imagine that being true? Dedicating the end of your life to a suicide bombing out of some hatred for Ariana Grande.

Blogger AdognamedOp May 23, 2017 5:33 AM  

Europe is like a weak fighter that's up against the ropes catching upper-cuts and body shots. Converged institutions + proximity has allowed the fascists proxy army to walk on in and piecemeal the pop. A Brevik 2.0 would only help them tighten their grip.

Blogger Jonathan Wales May 23, 2017 5:40 AM  

"Repealing Britain's gun ban would be one response."

Not sure that would make much difference. UK Jihadis generally don't use guns. they use cars, suicide bombs, etc.

And it would be more treating the symptom rather than the problem.

Blogger SteelPalm May 23, 2017 5:41 AM  

@14

Dude, it's an obvious shill/troll. Just ignore it.

@13

Eh. In generations past, prisoners would suffer horrific conditions or outright torture for 10+ years and still get out and lead productive lives picking up from where they left off.

If Breivik is staying strong and tough, less than 6 years in jail under the relatively comfortable modern Norwegian conditions shouldn't be too big of a strain, especially given he is still only 38.

Then again, this made me laugh;

"Breivik testified that after two years in isolation he has started to love Paradise Hotel, which he says is evidence that he has become seriously brain damaged."

Anonymous Steve May 23, 2017 5:44 AM  

"Muslims are like the common cold and leftists are like Aids. It's easy to fight off a cold... unless you have Aids." - Milo

Blogger APL May 23, 2017 5:44 AM  

Millenium: "At worst you are merely arming the jihadis in England."

Judging by yesterdays event, I think they can manage that themselves already.

Blogger Lovekraft May 23, 2017 5:54 AM  

Watch them they will try to rob you blind.
Best to read those telltale signs.
Never take their word.
Deep down they know they're here to serve.

Blogger Lovekraft May 23, 2017 5:57 AM  

SJW Archpriestess Laurie Penny put out a tweet saying "Atheists are praying for the victims."

Wrap your head around that one. Praying to what exactly?

Blogger bobby May 23, 2017 6:04 AM  

"SJW Archpriestess Laurie Penny put out a tweet saying "Atheists are praying for the victims.""

Later, as they become more serious about it, they will begin crafting devastating hashtags. Islam, beware!

Blogger ZhukovG May 23, 2017 6:08 AM  

The Muslims must be deported and the 'elite', brought to justice. If the Windsors lack the stones to speak up for their people, then perhaps it is time for a change of dynasty.

Anonymous glosoli May 23, 2017 6:30 AM  

Can I ask which MP was quoted in the post please? Must be a UKIP guy I imagine.

I will note that this attack comes as Labour were gaining ground in the polls on the Tories, and now both parties have agreed to suspend their election campaigns. So much for not letting terrorists affect our lives eh? I smell a rat, as I don't think the UK controllers want a Tory government with a huge majority.

I just posted Vox's 'never accept immigrants' piece all over Facebook, so many comments online from my idiot countrymen saying 'we're all human, it's just a few evil people'. Idiots, suicidal idiots.

Please, bring on the financial collapse ASAP, so the r selected types get what's coming, and we who are ready can sort things out.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer May 23, 2017 6:31 AM  

The joke that civic nationalists buy into is on full display. If, what the civic nationalists believe were true, then we would be seeing Imams lining up to be on TV denouncing these actions in the harshest terms. They would be doing everything they could to make sure people would SEE there is difference between them and those who committed the attack. Instead, they line up to go on TV and whine about non-existent reprisals and how supposedly harsh the West is to them. These are not the actions of a people that are trying to become part of your nation/culture.

These are the actions of a people that are trying to supplant your culture. They are like weeds complaining that the hostas is taking up all the water and blocking the sunlight.

Blogger Stilicho May 23, 2017 6:31 AM  

@zhukov @rince Harry might do, but the Queen is old, his father is an SJW, and William looks to be his father's son. I doubt the Stuarts have anyone suitable around these days and there doesn't appear to be a William of Orange to lead a Glorious Revolution. Maybe Arthur Will need to return after all.

Anonymous Pug May 23, 2017 6:41 AM  

@Lovekraft

Atheists and feminists pray to Allah of course. Those that do not, they will, soon.

Blogger SouthRon May 23, 2017 6:49 AM  

That Edict of Expulsion IG article seems to rabbit trail into ((())) worship in the middle. Unfortunately I know to little of English history to properly edit it.

Blogger manfred arcane May 23, 2017 7:02 AM  

"The rigid structures and dogmas enveloping Christianity and Judaism prohibited these religions from adapting to the cultural, philosophical, and especially scientific/technological changes transhumanity underwent. Today, they are mere shadows of their former glory, with many practitioners seen as pitiful individuals unable to let go of their earthbound delusions. Islam, while still holding some controversial views and values, managed to fully adapt by accepting a more liberal and even secular view."
^Actual lore-dump from a currently popular SF RPG.

This is what these people actually believe.

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 7:16 AM  

Go away, Jay Will. I've had it with your Gamma bullshit and constant defeatist shilling. Don't come back.

Anonymous Avalanche May 23, 2017 7:18 AM  

@14 "Could you imagine that being true? Dedicating the end of your life to a suicide bombing out of some hatred for Ariana Grande."

Nah, she's just the salt lick to call in the deer for harvesting!

Blogger APL May 23, 2017 7:20 AM  

SouthRon: "That Edict of Expulsion IG article seems to rabbit trail into ((())) worship in the middle. "

Probably the original wiki article. But the point isn't the article, it's the principle: people who don't identify with the nation state should be removed from the nation state.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 7:25 AM  

Going to be harder to pull a Breivik in the UK, actually. Useful arms are much less common.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 23, 2017 7:28 AM  

The part of me that used to feel sad doesn't even function anymore. No more prayers for victims, no victim ever solved a problem.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 7:29 AM  

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Blogger Aeoli Pera May 23, 2017 7:30 AM  

Tom Kratman wrote:Going to be harder to pull a Breivik in the UK, actually. Useful arms are much less common.

When will we pass commonsense gasoline laws?

Blogger SteelPalm May 23, 2017 7:36 AM  

@34

The part of me that used to feel sad doesn't even function anymore. No more prayers for victims, no victim ever solved a problem.

Same. And this, despite what a huge Anglophile I am.

It's largely to do with how common such terrorist attacks are, even in the West. The first time was sad and tragic. The 100th time? Painfully predictable.

At this point, it's merely down to the second part of any successful ideology; what do we do about it?

Blogger SouthRon May 23, 2017 7:39 AM  

@APL of course it's the original Wikipedia article. I posted in case there's a British History buff here that could do it justice.

Anonymous Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66 May 23, 2017 7:39 AM  

Best to read those telltale signs.
Never take their word.

Imagine being in solitary confinement 23 hours a day. Dude's probably wanking like a chimp.

Anonymous Rocklea May 23, 2017 7:40 AM  

If only there were a place where these people gather regularly.

Blogger Goes211 May 23, 2017 7:42 AM  

Calling him Saint Breivick only hurts the cause. If it is done for trolling, most people won't get it. If it is an actual call of support, I'm speachless.

I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer. It's disgusting.

Anonymous Opus May 23, 2017 7:43 AM  

This morning before I had heard of this and as I looked out of my window down on to the street I thought - given what I could see - that the place looked like Mogadishu, and I live in what by reputation is considered an up-market white town.

I wonder what effect this incident will have on the outcome of the General Election. Both main parties have their hands bloodied and up to their elbows in the genocide of the people of my country. There is no Nationalist Party indeed it is illegal to be Nationalist (hence the success of UKIP and Brexit).

Anonymous Avalanche May 23, 2017 7:52 AM  

@41 "I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer. It's disgusting."

Ah, you meant those muzzies, right? The ones maiming and KILLING kids with nail bombs because they don't agree with their host countries?!?

Riiiiiight.

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 7:53 AM  

Calling him Saint Breivick only hurts the cause. If it is done for trolling, most people won't get it. If it is an actual call of support, I'm speachless.

What is your cause, cucky? Because I don't share it and I don't care about whatever it might be.

I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer. It's disgusting.

You're not sorry, you're stupid. Do you truly not understand that war intrinsically involves large quantities of killing? This is 4GW, not 1GW. No one is lining up people in red coats on battlefields while the women and children are kept safely out of harms way anymore.

Anonymous krymneth May 23, 2017 7:54 AM  

Pushing Seth Rick temporarily out of the news with a huge Muslim terrorist attack is hardly a win for the globalist media.

In fact if they did have a false flag planned for Seth Rick they may have to cancel it because of this, because a crisis overload doesn't work out for them. They need a certain steady drumbeat of crisis, but not so much all at once that America starts yelling for Trump to"just do something!" about them.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 23, 2017 7:59 AM  

I''m not weeping nor wailing in good old conservative fashion, two useless gestures that feed my enemies.

All I can think of thru the night, is this the first morality policing by muslims or just a target of opportunity for chaos?

Anonymous Mark Auld May 23, 2017 8:02 AM  

Stand up Britain, call Arthur home and reclaim your kingdom.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 23, 2017 8:04 AM  

Brevik's only mistake, typing out a 1000 page manifesto, that is trucon bufoonery to a T.

Nothing is remarkable or memorable from it just another conservative intellectual that no one will remember.

Anonymous Blacksmith May 23, 2017 8:09 AM  

Good. The more they tighten their grip, the more folks wake up. Every move they have available is a mistake.

Blogger James Dixon May 23, 2017 8:10 AM  

> At worst you are merely arming the jihadis in England.

Arms are easy to smuggle and almost as easy to make. If they want them, they already have them.

> When will we pass commonsense gasoline laws?

Bingo. Many of the immigrants are in the equivalent of public housing. Housing burns. As do mosques.

> I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer.

Correct. It's only part of the answer.

Anonymous Millenium May 23, 2017 8:19 AM  

@zhukov @rince Harry might do, but the Queen is old, his father is an SJW, and William looks to be his father's son. I doubt the Stuarts have anyone suitable around these days and there doesn't appear to be a William of Orange to lead a Glorious Revolution. Maybe Arthur Will need to return after all.

King Nigel the First is ready to take the throne.

Blogger Volksgemeinschaft May 23, 2017 8:24 AM  

"Perhaps the fathers and brothers of all the murdered children of Manchester will content themselves with candlelight vigils and platitudes, as so many others have for the last 16 years. But sooner or later, one of them will not, and that man will make Anders Breivik look like a moderate."
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You are 100% correct. A wild dog is going to jump out of the Poodle Cage of Politically Correct Cucks.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 23, 2017 8:29 AM  

Goes211 wrote:I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer. It's disgusting.

Those we disagree with are killing our kids. How is killing their kids inappropriate?

Bz wrote:If we kill our enemies, they win.

Then let's win them, good and hard.

Blogger Michael Neal May 23, 2017 8:30 AM  

More dead white people, the left must be secretly celebrating

Blogger Mad Dok Rob May 23, 2017 8:51 AM  

manfred arcane wrote:
^Actual lore-dump from a currently popular SF RPG.

This is what these people actually believe.


What RPG is this?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 23, 2017 8:54 AM  

Michael Neal wrote:More dead white people, the left must be secretly celebrating

Secretly? Usually they're fairly open about their preferences. See, for example, https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32688/

Blogger Cail Corishev May 23, 2017 9:09 AM  

I wonder what shape the next Reconquista will take, since Europeans, at least from an outsiders perspective, seem very indifferent or outright hostile towards Christianity

Exactly. Contrary to popular belief, Christianity had a moderating effect on events like the Reconquista and the Inquisition. Secular leaders, by and large, would have taken a "kill them all and let God sort them out" approach. It was the Church that insisted on things like trials, and deporting foreigners rather than just killing them.

If Europeans (or Americans) are a non-Christian people when they decide they've had enough, there won't be any attempt to sort the good from the bad, or to give people months to pack their things and leave peacefully. They (and (((they)))) had better hope there's a Christian renewal before that time comes.

Blogger Goes211 May 23, 2017 9:12 AM  

Killing terrorists.
YES
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Closing boarders to foreign invaders.
YES
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Intolerance of the intolerant.
SURE
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Making things uncomfortable for those that are already here in hopes that they will leave.
OK I guess
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Feeling no shame for western civilization or being white.
OF COURSE
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Intentionally killing children?

I can't go there. If that make me cucky, whatever... Seems like you follow a different version of the Bible than I have read.

Anonymous JAG May 23, 2017 9:13 AM  

Mad Dok Rob wrote:manfred arcane wrote:

^Actual lore-dump from a currently popular SF RPG.

This is what these people actually believe.


What RPG is this?


It is from Eclipse Phase.

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 9:23 AM  

Since we are all about tolerance why dont we burn 100 korans on the steps of the stadium, arranged in t he shape of a cross, for every life lost at the concert.....

Anonymous Looking Glass May 23, 2017 9:23 AM  

I think The Independent missed the fact the USA isn't shipping guns & munitions in mass to the UK. Because, frankly, if it was happening like WW2, this problem is very easy to solve.

Blogger Felix Bellator May 23, 2017 9:24 AM  

Who said anything about intentionally killing children? But what part of "collateral damage" don't you get? When it is your wife, your kids, your family, your neighbors, and their kids getting killed will you stand up then? Because by the time TPTB are removed or start closing the borders their will be a lot more dead Western children. Foreign children are not your concern. The fact they foreign adults are going to get foreign children killed is on them. The fact that Western children are being killed now is on *US*. And unless we stop their crap now you will see far less care given for the deaths of foreign children. Your weakness now will kill foreign children later once the Saxon begins to hate.

Blogger Goes211 May 23, 2017 9:40 AM  

"Who said anything about intentionally killing children? "

I was not reffering to collateral damage. Saint Breivik was what started this off. I don't see how a child murder can be called a Saint.

Blogger Johnny May 23, 2017 9:42 AM  

Back when war was tribal it was between populations and any kind of murder and mayhem was okay. The war between combatants only comes from the feudal era when it was feudal barons competing over territory, nothing else. The peasants went with the property and typically had no allegiance with the leadership.

When dealing with an enemy that will attack you any time and in any way and against any target; sooner or later you must respond in kind or you lose. And then of course the kill anybody people win and that is the new culture.

The Europeans still have the option of expulsion, but they have to do it, and in time it won't be a practical solution.

Blogger Johnny May 23, 2017 9:49 AM  

I always find it a little weird how quickly some people give in to extortion, which is what this Islamic violence is. Do what we want or we will hurt you is the message. It does push the problem into the future, but it only gets worse because the behavior is rewarded.

The issue would seem to be how high do the dead bodies pile up before the Europeans respond. Or if not that, do they notice when one of the countries has a Islamic takeover. That would appear to be about a generation away in some of these countries.

Blogger Kathy May 23, 2017 9:51 AM  

Kick them out! Britain needs to be British. Not Muslim. Not Indian. Not German. B-R-I-T-I-S-H

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 9:56 AM  

@62
When dealing with invaders who play by no rules, except win at all costs the age or sex of the invader becomes irrelevant!
The enemy sets the rules of engagement and the terms of victory. Removing all of the adult invaders yet leaving all of their children would solve exactly NOTHING!
If the invaders care about their children they will take their children and leave POST HASTE, otherwise the outcome is on their head.

Blogger ZhukovG May 23, 2017 9:58 AM  

Goes211: What was the age of Breivik's youngest victim?

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 10:00 AM  

If you have an infestation of rats, killing and removing the adults only is pointless if the "children" are not removed with equal prejudice. they will simply regenerate a new invader population that is even more determined than the first. That does not mean "slaughter the children". It means they must all go! one way or another, the method is up to the invaders.

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 10:02 AM  

Until Dues Vult and the image of the cross strike fear into any potential invader this will not end.

Blogger praetorian May 23, 2017 10:02 AM  

As Judeo-Christ said: virtue is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

There are many, *many* muslims in the UK that have not yet nail bombed a kids concert. In fact, this is the majority of them.

Checkmate, racists.

Blogger Felix Bellator May 23, 2017 10:05 AM  

A 14 year old is not a child. How many 14 year olds have the Muslims pushed to blow themselves up for Allah? Far more than Breivik killed. You think once this kicks off after years of inaction that anyone will give a tinker's dam about Muslim children? Once any group's blood gets up its monkey brain thinking until all the enemy is dead. How many of our own will you see slaughtered first? How little do you really care about the Muslim children that will fall if this goes too far that you won't do the hard work now to stop it? It is this Western half-assing war and weak responses for the last 70 years that has created this mess. We have convinced them that the West is weak, and it is, until it isn't. Kratman said something along the lines of "you are going to wage war against the one race on this planet with a demonstrated capability for mass violence on a global scale? Good luck with that." Perhaps when this is all over you might come to think that sacrificing 1,000 Muslim children back then would have been better than slaughtering 1,000,000 now. I do not want any of that to happen, but it likely will unless we get our act together now and do what is needed instead of what is comfortable.

Blogger praetorian May 23, 2017 10:07 AM  

Intentionally killing children?

Your choices are:

1) Submission
2) Working as hard as you can to deport as many foreigners as quickly as possible
3) Looking the other way while St. Breivik prays for us
4) Being the St. Breivik you want to see in the world

This:

Making things uncomfortable for those that are already here in hopes that they will leave.
OK I guess


Is why 3 and 4 are more likely than you think.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:10 AM  

@36

Actually, you can make a very nice dust initiator (in effect and FAE) with gasoline.

As for various moral limp wrists commenting here, do you ever bother to ask yourself if the measured, reasoned, rational, minimally violent solutions you prefer would _work_? Do you have compelling evidence that they will?

Didn't think so. So what you are really bleating is "let any evil be done so long as it isn't to me or mine and as long as no reaction we might take to it will give me badfeelz." Have you any notion of how morally bankrupt that is?

Blogger mgh May 23, 2017 10:13 AM  

The "child murderer" thing is bugging people, but they don't understand who these children were. To most Americans, the idea of sending your teenage kids to political party summer camp to train them up to be future apparatchiks would be creepy as hell. If the situation was fully understood, many people's reaction would be something like "stupid fools made their kids into targets".

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:14 AM  

@50 "Correct. It's only part of the answer."

I have it on pretty good authority (Brit Intel) that, although Breivik didn't actually kill that many, and few of those were old enough to have entered politics yet, the Norwegian left is already feeling the pinch and the loss.

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 10:16 AM  

@36 @74

A 20lb propane take, 100 mesh aluminum dust..... household items and you have a shockingly effective "thermobaric" weapon.
Any first world nation can trivially produce weapons of shocking destruction with basically what is lying around and some technical knowledge.

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner May 23, 2017 10:17 AM  

isn't it a bit odd that the day some info on Seth rich was gonna come out, we have another religion of peace attack?

Anyone else note this was the anniversary of Lee Rigby's beheading? I see a market for t-shirts that say
"Wearer carries bacon bits to send moslems to hell, don't blow near me"

There's only one way Britain should respond to attacks such as Manchester. That is by carrying on exactly as before

Elevate moslems above us the Vlad Tepes way

Going to be harder to pull a Breivik in the UK, actually. Useful arms are much less common.

If firefighters are willing to avoid the no go zones Sir Thermite can cleanse them.

I'm sorry but killing kids of those you disagree with politically is not the answer. It's disgusting

Nits-lice. If the choice is between Moslems and Nazis call me HUGO BOSS. The Russians were not that mean to moslems until moslems raped/killed in Beslan school

I don't see how a child murder can be called a Saint. Please move to a DieVerse City

More dead white people, the left must be secretly celebrating

Children were killed at the concert, Planned Parenthood had a wine/cheese party as seen on hidden camera.

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 10:19 AM  

Throw in some knowledge of overlapping shock waves for magnifying the net effect and a coordinated ignition can be made to appear that it was a large military grade weapon.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning May 23, 2017 10:19 AM  

SteelPalm wrote:At this point, it's merely down to the second part of any successful ideology; what do we do about it?

Nominate Prime Minister St. Breivik for a Noble Peace Prize. https://infogalactic.com/info/Menachem_Begin
https://infogalactic.com/info/Nelson_Mandela

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 10:19 AM  

So what you are really bleating is "let any evil be done so long as it isn't to me or mine and as long as no reaction we might take to it will give me badfeelz." Have you any notion of how morally bankrupt that is?

Damn straight.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 23, 2017 10:21 AM  

Bomber was "known to the authorities."

How long until citizens demand that the INDIVIDUALS who signed off on letting such "known" threats remain among them be placed in a square and passersby given free rein to hurl bricks at their faces?

It's time to bring back stoning, and specifically direct it at the OFFICIALS who intentionally let these "known persons" remain present and free.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:23 AM  

But the really good question is, "Have the English grown polite yet?"

(Extra points for those who get the joke/reference)

Anonymous rienzi May 23, 2017 10:24 AM  

Brevik did not rampage through a summer camp killing eight year old kids doing leathercraft. His victims were in their late teens and were being groomed as future leaders of the Norwegian Labor Party. All by himself, Breivik destroyed half a generation's worth of future Labor Party leaders. A veritable Stonewall Jackson of 4th gen. warfare.

For those worried about Brevik in "solitary" Norski prisons are most definitely NOT like ours. His "cell" probably looks like a room at Motel6, and if he is going crazy, its from watching cable TV in his room all day every day.

Blogger Johnny May 23, 2017 10:25 AM  

VD wrote:So what you are really bleating is "let any evil be done so long as it isn't to me or mine and as long as no reaction we might take to it will give me badfeelz." Have you any notion of how morally bankrupt that is?

Damn straight.


To put the word to it, it is moral posturing. Preening on a notion of personal virtue even as evil outcomes are promoted. Shades of the current Pope and his approach to this stuff.

Blogger Stephen May 23, 2017 10:25 AM  

Their children are next years jihadis and their women are their arms factories. An immigrant is an invader who has postponed arming himself. A refugee is a jihadi looking for a softer target. There is no such thing as civilians. A soldier's life is more valuable than a feeble coward's.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:26 AM  

@82 "It's time to bring back stoning, and specifically direct it at the OFFICIALS who intentionally let these "known persons" remain present and free."

That's part of the problem we have. Vox is "known to the authorities." I'd be rather disappointed if _I_ am not "known to the authorities." When the "authorities" are treasonous shitheels, it's a mark of distinction, a worthy honor, to be "known to the authorities." And, if we allow those "known to the authorities" to be taken into custody, when the authorities _are_ treasonous shitheels, well...no more books from Vox or myself, and someone else is going to have to pay to keep this blog up and running.

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner May 23, 2017 10:30 AM  

It's time to bring back stoning, and specifically direct it at the OFFICIALS who intentionally let these "known persons" remain present and free"

The problem with stoning is most leftists think it involves giving people drugs for sex. Getting stoned to death doesn't sound that bad to them.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 23, 2017 10:31 AM  

According to a link at r/The_Donald, ISIS claims responsibility and calls the dead girls "Crusaders."

That's what the people clinging to their vigils and inter-faith outreach don't get: we're already the Crusaders, whether we want to be or not. The war has already started and the other side already chose up the teams. We don't get to say little girls aren't combatants on our team -- unless we remove kebab so they can't get at our little girls.

Blogger Sam Lively May 23, 2017 10:32 AM  

@75

We have JSA here in the States and I counseled at a Christian spin-off summer camp in Sacramento.

I seriously doubt most Americans consider it creepy as hell. But we definitely know most Americans consider slaughtering teenagers at summer camp to be creepy as hell - hello Jason Voorhees.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 23, 2017 10:35 AM  

@87 Point taken. There are no top-down solutions to the problems of politics. The socio-political cancer now embedded will not be excised by pushing a button in a voting booth.

This is why I figure things will get a whole lot worse (in the wrong direction) before they begin to get better (which likely will see a vast INCREASE in aggregate violence.)

Kind of like violence is the excavator, and we're still digging the hole we're in deeper, but when the time comes to begin digging out, it's still with the excavator.

The "good" news is that most of the victims of violence these days are the "herdiest" of the herd animals who surround us. Idiocracy is now, and the culling of our population is salutary as long as it occurs at the extreme of hivemindedness.

Death to the Rabbits.

Blogger Chiva May 23, 2017 10:38 AM  

"It's time to bring back stoning, and specifically direct it at the OFFICIALS who intentionally let these "known persons" remain present and free."

The correct punishment for high treason was hanged, drawn and quartered. Stoning is too civilized for them.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 23, 2017 10:38 AM  

I don't understand parents who let their kids aggregate in places frequently targeted by both terrorists and common criminals (e.g., malls.) Sending your kid voluntarily to be part of a target-rich environment is herd behavior 101.

Natural selection in plain sight.

Blogger Felix Bellator May 23, 2017 10:40 AM  

I looked at the JSA website. They hide it under the usual verbage, but they are creepy as hell Commies.

Jason only killed those that had sinned in keeping with the Horror Movie Monster Code. Number one is "Have sex out of wedlock, you die."

Blogger Eric Slate May 23, 2017 10:41 AM  

Historical reconquista had one thing that reconquista 2.0 currently lacks...a solid core of the society's leadership leading the reconquista.

If you read the history books, though, you find that the visigoth kingdom leadership mostly cucked to the invading ummayads. Only a few nobles along the north coast of Asturias fought back...but that was enough to get things started.

Blogger Johnny May 23, 2017 10:45 AM  

@82 "It's time to bring back stoning, and specifically direct it at the OFFICIALS who intentionally let these "known persons" remain present and free."

By my lights the people who do it deliberately and are in some manner bought off deserve punishment. The useful idiots not so much. Stupidity can't be cured with punishment.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:48 AM  

@92.

Too labor intensive and too quick. Nails. Christianization. For the children.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:49 AM  

"Stupidity can't be cured with punishment."

It may not be curable but its power can be mitigated.

Anonymous BBGKB May 23, 2017 10:50 AM  

are in some manner bought off deserve punishment. The useful idiots not so much. Stupidity can't be cured with punishment

Tell that to the dog breeders that created German shepherds vs pit bulls

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:50 AM  

Speaking of Ariana Grande, has the wretched little tart licked any doughnuts while preaching her hatred of America lately?

Blogger Sam Lively May 23, 2017 10:53 AM  

@94

I think JSA is pretty lefty. But who really considers JSA kids creepy? More of a band geek/student government vibe.

I appreciate that there always seems to be a method to VD's madness and the lack of mindless PC virtue signaling around here is refreshing. Still think the Breivik trolling is retarded.

Blogger Shimshon May 23, 2017 10:57 AM  

Can Brevik do a Reddit AMA?

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 10:59 AM  

"Still think the Breivik trolling is retarded."

It's a little tasteless, maybe, but not retarded. (And taste is the prime value only of a society without any real values.) For one thing, Breivik's attack seemed to have advanced his cause, and not just a little. For another, we can, eventually, expect more of them. For a third: "Lefty, it isn't just our kids at risk anymore." For a fourth, if we get to that point, exterminating the entire lefty meme and gene pool, root and branch, will be a routine aspect of the coming war.

And, lastly, perhaps one or two lefties will suffer EHS (exploding head syndrome) from reading it. One can hope, anyway.

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 11:00 AM  

Still think the Breivik trolling is retarded.

That's because you are considerably less intelligent than I am. It's not trolling. It is a probabilistic prediction. IF the West wins and survives, Breivik will be a massive hero.

If he does not become a hero, then the West did not survive.

I suggest you look at the men to whom the statues are raised in most capital cities. More than a few are confirmed killers.

Blogger WATYF May 23, 2017 11:06 AM  

This is 4GW, not 1GW. No one is lining up people in red coats on battlefields while the women and children are kept safely out of harms way anymore.

And? This doesn't change objective morality.

Murdering an unarmed non-combatant is immoral no matter what you think it will accomplish. It was immoral when the Manchester bomber did it just as it was immoral when Breivik did it. "The ends justify the means" is not a coherent moral argument.

Argue that we should depose the politicians who support this. Argue that we should throw them in jail. Argue that they should be sentenced to death for treason. But the idea that we can go up to someone with whom we have a political disagreement and kill them and their family because we firmly believe (even with good reason) that their political views will lead to a worse future has no moral support in the Christian framework.

How many people are going to die when the economic collapse happens? Well in that case, we should find the nearest Keynesian and slaughter his family. Herp derp.

WATYF

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 11:08 AM  

History is not written by the democratic heard, it is written by the few driven individuals who are willing to WIN, that includes the body count that goes with it.

Anonymous BBGKB May 23, 2017 11:09 AM  

Still think the Breivik trolling is retarded.

Its hard to fathom these cucks talking about Breivik killing kids when most of what he killed was 17yo+ & anti-white. Moslems consider 6yo girls old enough to have sex with just like Mohamad did, and the teen girl concert goers were targeted because moslems believe all the infidels they kill will be their slaves in the afterlife & many sins can only be absolved by killing infidels.

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative May 23, 2017 11:11 AM  

Go out and shop! Yes, shop till you drop, if you don't then the terrists win! Pres. Bush told me so!

Blogger John Williams May 23, 2017 11:16 AM  

At worst you are merely arming the jihadis in England.
You're naive if you don't think they're already armed. Ask yourself this, are the Jihadi shootings in Europe becoming more or less common? Where do the explosives come from?

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 11:17 AM  

Murdering an unarmed non-combatant is immoral no matter what you think it will accomplish.

There are NO non-combatants in this affair, there is no sideline, there is no neutrality.
The invaders will treat western women and children no different then any other combatant! they will rape and behead women and children with equal enthusiasm. How many hundreds and THOUSANDS of examples do you need from all across Europe from Germany to Sweden to France!

Trying to play white knight against an enemy willing to engage in total war is exactly what the conservative US political party does and why it conserves nothing against the left.

You don't glibly slaughter children. Line up the container ships and offer a path back to north africa for all of them, if they dont get on the boat any further consequences are on them.

Anonymous Panzer Man May 23, 2017 11:17 AM  

Tom Kratman wrote:But the really good question is, "Have the English grown polite yet?"

(Extra points for those who get the joke/reference)


Cock the gun that is not loaded, cook the frozen dynamite...

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 11:20 AM  

@105

WATYF

Questions:

Is there a dispositive moral difference between doing and permitting? IOW, if you can reduce the frequency, intensity, and scope of Evil X (marca registrada), do you have an obligation to try to do so? Does your subjective goodfeels outweigh, do you think, the obligation to reduce Evil X overall?

Are you familiar with the doctrine of reprisal under the law of war? Probably not since, few, these days, are. A reprisal is a war crime that is legally undertaken to entice or force the enemy to adhere to the laws of war. If it isn't, on its own, a crime, it isn't a reprisal.

There have been a number of attempts to limit the scope of the reprisal, but, at core, they're all morally fraudulent posturing. Nothing can be off the table because there is nothing that is out of contemplation for the enemy to do. I

Individual innocence is not a defense. If the enemy is using a hospital as an ammunition dump, you can not only blow the hospital to bits, along with the otherwise innocent protected patients, you can blow up some other hospital, too, or in lieu of.

If you take something off the table (intellectually and legally preposterous though that is), then you encourage your enemy to violate the laws of war, to do Evil X.

One thing that really shocks me about reprisal is that the JAGs never quite keyed to the notion that a reprisal should be reasonably well calculated to work, that otherwise your war crime remains a war crime because, as a deliberate failure, it cannot be a reprisal.

Similarly, if we fail to reprise against this enemy, in a way he can understand and in a way that will deter him, we are responsible for his continued attacks. Moreover, if we could have stopped those attacks while they were still small scale, and failed to do so, when they have grown large and the necessary reprisal has also grown large, we will be responsible for the difference.

So your position is fundamentally thoughtless, but still deeply immoral.

Blogger James Dixon May 23, 2017 11:24 AM  

> Intentionally killing children? ... I can't go there.

So you'll simply die a principled death and leave you wife and kids (assuming you have any) as trophies for the victors.

> I don't see how a child murder can be called a Saint.

I'm sure you don't. Yet.

> There are many, *many* muslims in the UK that have not yet nail bombed a kids concert.

Give them time, they're working on it.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 11:24 AM  

@111. Very good. Et Dona Ferentes.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 23, 2017 11:28 AM  

Intentionally killing children? ... I can't go there.

The people Americans call the "Greatest Generation" killed cities full of them and cheered. Weird how that works, no?

Blogger James Dixon May 23, 2017 11:30 AM  

> But the idea that we can go up to someone with whom we have a political disagreement and kill them and their family because we firmly believe (even with good reason) that their political views will lead to a worse future has no moral support in the Christian framework.

If the disagreement were merely political views you might have a point. It isn't. They want people like us dead. The fact that they are bringing in others to do the deed for them is beside the point.

Anonymous Francis May 23, 2017 11:39 AM  

Go out and shop! Yes, shop till you drop, if you don't then the terrists win! Pres. Bush told me so!

If you don't go to the mall the terrorists win.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 23, 2017 11:45 AM  

Goes211 wrote:Intentionally killing children?

I can't go there. If that make me cucky, whatever... Seems like you follow a different version of the Bible than I have read.

If you dress them in a snappy Hugo Boss uniform, then it's okay to slaughter them by the thousand. Send them to a camp where they can be further indoctrinated and weaponized against your nation, then it's HANDS OFF PEOPLE!!!

Blogger Nationalist Flicka May 23, 2017 11:55 AM  

** don't understand parents who let their kids aggregate in places frequently targeted by both terrorists and common criminals (e.g., malls.) Sending your kid voluntarily to be part of a target-rich environment is herd behavior 101.

I don't understand letting your 8-12 year old daughter go to a concert where she's watching some barely dressed hootchie dry hump everything on the stage, up to an including the air. This chick has constantly got her ass in the air--for full viewing.

Who is saying, "Yeah, my 8 year old needs to see this and I need to pay $100 for her to see it"

It's upside down world.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 23, 2017 12:13 PM  

Goes211 wrote:Intentionally killing children?

Children are being killed regularly by the mohammedans. Let it be their children.

Anonymous Bukulu May 23, 2017 12:13 PM  

Oh, the JSA is plenty creepy. Anyone who wants to go directly into government/policy is creepy. (Hello, Bill Clinton, wanting to maintain your "future political viability".)

Instead: go do something productive, first. Gain some perspective and some experience. Then, and only then, should you begin to consider taking part in the difficult task of governing a free people.

Blogger Sam Lively May 23, 2017 12:20 PM  

@104

I've read my OT. I've seen the statues of John Brown and Andrew Jackson. I know that history is written by the victors. And I know that killing doesn't disqualify anyone from national honor - to the contrary.

But Breivik practiced a different kind of killing. Mowing down sitting ducks - and his own countrymen at that - at a summer camp and then trundling off to an absurdly light punishment is not the stuff Western heroic fables are made of.

I welcome any corrections, but the only people I've seen celebrate that type of killing are pre-civilized people, jihadis and Stalinists.

Blogger VD May 23, 2017 12:25 PM  

But Breivik practiced a different kind of killing.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. John Brown murdered innocent people in their own homes. I suggest you look up the Pottawatomie massacre.

Anonymous Grayman May 23, 2017 12:25 PM  

@122,

Read up on the US revolution... both sides, British and colonists were brutal to each other including "civilians".
Read up on WWII all sides committed absolute atrocities against "civilians" fleeing combat.
War is hell and in reality there is no such thing as a "non-combatant", those are just tertiary targets on an as necessary basis.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 23, 2017 12:26 PM  

It might help, Sam, if you realize that what we are now is pre-post-civilized people. The post-civilized, which is to say "_un_civilized" people are coming.

Blogger Deadmau5 Patton May 23, 2017 12:32 PM  

Some brown cab drivers gave a handful of free rides after the bombing. Everything is ok.

Blogger BunE22 May 23, 2017 12:48 PM  

I don't see them as children, they're the brood of animals therefore they're animals too. They either need to all go back and stay there, or be wiped out of Western Civ. Personally I'd like to see the whole ME nuked.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 23, 2017 12:53 PM  

@112, regarding wartime reprisals, I'm reminded that in Muslim-run countries I understand it's quite normal to hold the extended family responsible for the actions of their younger (and difficult to control) male relatives. It' the only lever available, and they use it. The West will eventually grasp why, or render the question moot.

The only hope for relative tranquility is wide separation, high fences and broad oceans. People who harbor genetic differences that matter should not attempt to coexist in the same society.

Individuals may choose, but DNA ultimately rules. The passive, go-along-get-along parents or grandparents still seed individual offspring whose recombination of ancestral traits can yield mass murder. Human behavior is far too complex to claim what amounts to a recessive trait for "Jihadi" is gone after two generations of docility.

By the time we get to the bottom of this all, if genetic science continues apace, people will segregate literally on the basis of a gene-sequencing study.

That's if any subpopulations of identifiably different people still exist. Who knows how deep is the rabbit hole?

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Blogger James Dixon May 23, 2017 12:58 PM  

> But Breivik practiced a different kind of killing. Mowing down sitting ducks - and his own countrymen at that

What you fail (or refuse) to realize is that we're already at war. Those Breivik killed were on the side trying to kill and replace his people. If you think the same isn't true here in the US simply re-read Kevin Williamson's article for the National Review titled "The Father-Führer".

These people want us dead. They're at war with us and imported savages are their chosen weapons. Their reaction to this election is their declaration of that war, but they've been fighting it for years now. There are no non-combatants in their eyes and their should be none in ours.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 23, 2017 12:59 PM  

Breivik, Breivik, Breivik.

Did everyone miss the recent remake of "Birth of a Nation?" You know, the one where the slaughterers of women and infants were celebrated as Visionaries and Martyrs to Utopian Diversity and Anti-Racism?

We really are surrounded by those who live in the Perpetual Now. Demons are remade into angels. Angels are cast as demons. POV matters, changes, and is subject to retconning as well as revisionism.

War is ugly, which is why we should avoid it. Paradoxically, it's the "We Can All Get Along" idiots who, in tearing down the fences and bridging the oceans, insure that war will come again. And again and again.

Anonymous BBGKB May 23, 2017 1:05 PM  

These people want us dead. They're at war with us and imported savages are their chosen weapons

Latrina & Ayisha's vaginas fire at full auto.

Blogger Sam Lively May 23, 2017 1:35 PM  

@123

I'm familiar with Pottawatomie. Most relevant to this discussion, if that were the extent of John Brown's notable acts, he wouldn't be celebrated today. Killing 5 unarmed guys in the dead of night was, for most, a blemish on his popular legacy. It's the long record of militant abolitionism, guerrilla generalship and hanging death that got Brown his fame. That along with the 2-sided violence of the time allowed his lionizers to minimize or justify Pottawatomie.

Breivik has none of that. A guy who showed up out of nowhere to kill 69 unarmed people most of them teenagers including a lot of teenage girls in a placid country, outdoing the annual national murder numbers single-handed. A guy who got a sentence of 10-21 years in a cushy prison.

Anonymous Sixth largest island May 23, 2017 1:41 PM  

Nice try globoshill demoralizer. We're all wearing Hasbara hazmat suits and are proof to your slung feces.

Blogger Esmar Tuek May 23, 2017 2:14 PM  

I'm surprised there haven't been more breiviks. He has a cushy life, can read as much as he likes. Most of you are American, you haven't seen a Scandinavian jail, it's nicer than a motel. Inmates get to work on a farm on an island, not real work, just feed animals and pet them.

I'd be interested to see a study on what effect he has had on the left in Norway. Is he the reason they are less cucked than Sweden ?

Blogger horsewithnonick May 23, 2017 2:43 PM  

Had these teenagers been in a boot camp, training to be soldiers, would you understand the reason for prematurely terminating their training?

The camp in which they were enrolled was effectively 4GW 'boot camp', At which they were learning the political art of war, the better to annihilate their own heritage.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco May 23, 2017 2:51 PM  

"I suggest you look at the men to whom the statues are raised in most capital cities. More than a few are confirmed killers."

There are statues of Lenin in American cities.

Blogger Daniel May 23, 2017 3:20 PM  

I'd like to see that

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 23, 2017 4:17 PM  

Needs more England Prevails and less candlelight vigils

Blogger SirHamster May 23, 2017 6:21 PM  

Sam Lively wrote:I've read my OT. I've seen the statues of John Brown and Andrew Jackson. I know that history is written by the victors. And I know that killing doesn't disqualify anyone from national honor - to the contrary.

But Breivik practiced a different kind of killing. Mowing down sitting ducks - and his own countrymen at that - at a summer camp and then trundling off to an absurdly light punishment is not the stuff Western heroic fables are made of.


Sitting ducks? So what? This isn't honorable single combat, it's war.

Own countrymen? How familiar are you with the OT?

Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.”

Blogger JP May 23, 2017 6:38 PM  

WATYF wrote:This is 4GW, not 1GW. No one is lining up people in red coats on battlefields while the women and children are kept safely out of harms way anymore.

And? This doesn't change objective morality.

Murdering an unarmed non-combatant is immoral no matter what you think it will accomplish. It was immoral when the Manchester bomber did it just as it was immoral when Breivik did it. "The ends justify the means" is not a coherent moral argument.


They're not noncombatants just because they're "unarmed". A guy holding a cellphone isn't usually a threat, but a guy about to trigger an IED with a cellphone is. Credible information that they're going to destroy your country through the force of law means that they ARE engaged in warfare, they're just doing it slowly.


Argue that we should depose the politicians who support this. Argue that we should throw them in jail. Argue that they should be sentenced to death for treason. But the idea that we can go up to someone with whom we have a political disagreement and kill them and their family because we firmly believe (even with good reason) that their political views will lead to a worse future has no moral support in the Christian framework.


Then let God sort them out. Do you really think Breivik's actions were less violent than overthrowing the government?

How many people are going to die when the economic collapse happens? Well in that case, we should find the nearest Keynesian and slaughter his family. Herp derp.


Stop! I can only get so erect!

Anonymous Marvin Boggs May 23, 2017 10:31 PM  

@71: Two points:
1. Islam is NOT a race, so dissing Muslims cannot be racist. Misusing, or overusing, a term strips it of its power.
2. While it is true that not all Muslims have, as yet, turned themselves into not-so-smart bombs, absent a reliable method for predicting which ones will do so, they all need to go away.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd May 23, 2017 10:51 PM  

Marvin Boggs wrote:2. While it is true that not all Muslims have, as yet, turned themselves into not-so-smart bombs, absent a reliable method for predicting which ones will do so, they all need

The bomb thing is why it's urgent, but it's not why they have to go back. They have to go back because they are not part of our nation.

Blogger JohnR219 May 23, 2017 11:05 PM  

Good Lord, Morrissey agrees with Vox...see breitbart...

Blogger James Dixon May 24, 2017 1:01 PM  

> Good Lord, Morrissey agrees with Vox

Well, this seems appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPhzgxe3L0

Anonymous DonReynolds May 25, 2017 10:49 AM  

@23 ZhukovG
"The Muslims must be deported and the 'elite', brought to justice. If the Windsors lack the stones to speak up for their people, then perhaps it is time for a change of dynasty."

@26 Stilicho
"@zhukov @rince Harry might do, but the Queen is old, his father is an SJW, and William looks to be his father's son. I doubt the Stuarts have anyone suitable around these days and there doesn't appear to be a William of Orange to lead a Glorious Revolution. Maybe Arthur Will need to return after all."

WHERE is Oliver CROMWELL, when you really, really need him....and his sword, and his New Model Army, and the "fire in his belly"???

Anonymous DonReynolds May 25, 2017 11:24 AM  

A number of commenters here have expressed moral outrage and shame over the deliberate killing of (women and) children. This is a topic that has been debated already in the past.

After the civil war, the US Army conducted numerous punitive expeditions and operations against the Plains Indians and in the Southwest. During wartime, all the able-bodied Indian men went on the warpath, leaving behind villages full of old men, women and children....essentially defenseless. Yes, the US military eradicated a number of these Indian settlements, by sword, carbine, and even cannon. When the Liberals of the day complained to General Sherman....he would say that "nits grow up to be lice". When they complained even more, he invoked the high card...."Did we stop bombarding Vicksburg because we knew there were many women and children in that city?"

The commenters who invoked the air bombing of ALL the major cities of Europe (except Paris) and Asia during WWII, by all warring powers are exactly correct. No day or night bombing operations were suspended or delayed because there were certainly women and children by the tens of thousands that would be killed or injured. NONE.

Americans are certainly the funniest people in the world. They believe that beheading a few civilians with an old sword to be barbaric. Setting off nail bombs in a disco to be an outrage and shooting unarmed civilians with rifles to be an atrocity. But somehow, dropping hundreds of 500 and 1,000 pound bombs full of high explosives on a city is "non-violent". Somehow, a drone strike or 59 cruise missiles is a "surgical operation". Somehow, a B-52 air strike is not a violent act, or cruel, or incredibly vicious. Anyone want to talk about napalm? white phosphorus? MOAB? I accuse you of straining at gnats while swallowing camels with a single gulp.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable May 25, 2017 11:53 PM  

Tom Kratman wrote:Going to be harder to pull a Breivik in the UK, actually. Useful arms are much less common.

Couldn't they just get a bunch of guys together and burglarize a mosque? AK-47s and grenades for everybody!

Anonymous Mr. Rational May 26, 2017 1:11 AM  

SciVo, that's what I've been suggesting for a while already.

With a few twists:  steal almost everything, and set the mosque on fire so that the remaining ammo or other weaponry is set off in a way that a forensic examination of the ashes is unavoidable.  You want the muzzies to take the heat in a very big way.

Blogger Unknown May 31, 2017 7:17 AM  

Vox is an uneducated atheist/scientific utilitarian statist pretending to be a Christian, so there's no point in him praying to anyone when he should be more concerned about his own inevitable damnation. His pseudo-philosophical views have more in common with Sam Harris than any legitimate Christian philosophy or theology.

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