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Sunday, May 14, 2017

Why boys don't read books

It's a deep mystery the publishing industry has simply been unable to unravel. The tweet was: A look at how YA fans are connecting with and inspiring today's authors.


As a general rule, boys don't read books written by women. Girls prefer books written by women, but they are more willing to read books written by men. It's not really that hard to figure out why. Girls like both story and romance. Boys like story. Women like writing romance. Men like writing story.

On a tangential note, there was an unexpectedly strong response to the excerpt I posted from NO GODS, ONLY DEMONS the other day. Now, perhaps that was because people are less familiar with Cheah's writing than mine or John Wright's but I also realized that I seldom post excerpts from Castalia House books here. So, I'm wondering if that is the sort of end-of-day post you'd like to see here more often or if that would be an annoyance.

Excerpt posts are very easy, so I wouldn't need to do it in lieu of other posting. Anyhow, let me know if you'd rather see a) more excerpts or b) no excerpts, and, if a), how often you'd like to see them. Our catalog is now at the point that even if we posted a daily excerpt, it would take us more than two months to get back to the first book, so anything from once a week to once a day is possible.

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 14, 2017 1:06 PM  

So, I'm wondering if that is the sort of end-of-day post you'd like to see here more often or if that would be an annoyance.
I'm fully capable of ignoring posts I'm not interested in, although evidently that's not true of alt-White. At least judging by the response to the footballer/cancer post yesterday.

So post away and maybe you'll annoy them enough to go elsewhere.

Blogger Matt May 14, 2017 1:07 PM  

I rememeber, 9 times out of 10, if it had nothing to do with killing, an adventure, sex, or baseball, I had zero interest in it.

Blogger 1337kestrel May 14, 2017 1:07 PM  

Hmmmm it seems like a good idea. I don't dislike it. Personally I buy all of your books that I'm interested in. I purchased No Gods, Only Demons because you posted about it, but I actually didn't like the excerpts. Out of context, the action isn't super compelling. Needs conflict.

Blogger Harry Spitz May 14, 2017 1:12 PM  

Boys don't like reading those books because the boys aren't heroes anymore. The heroes are usualy 'kick-ass' girls who are stronger and smarter than boys in every way.
Even when they are the heroes, there have to be "strong female characters" to help them along, who are, again, smarter and/or stronger than the boys.
Since they already get this sort of punishment every day in 'real life,' naturally, they skip the books for games were THEY are the hero.

Blogger Cubby8126 May 14, 2017 1:13 PM  

As long as they are castalia books excerpt away.

Blogger Cubby8126 May 14, 2017 1:13 PM  

As long as they are castalia books excerpt away.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 14, 2017 1:14 PM  

I'd be fine with more excerpts.

Anonymous Steve May 14, 2017 1:15 PM  

I'd like to see more CH book excerpts.

Anonymous Passinthough May 14, 2017 1:16 PM  

I like excerpts.

Blogger Jack Ward May 14, 2017 1:18 PM  

I keep an eye on Castalia site. You generally put up new stuff on the blog anyway. And I come here daily. Put the excerpts out if you wish. No loss if not. I will, of course, buy anything by Nick Cole, Peter Grant, Larson, Kratman, Nelson, Wright, VanDyke [usuallyl, etc.

Blogger tublecane May 14, 2017 1:23 PM  

"Girls like both story and romance. Boys like story. Women like writing romance. Men like writing story."

I always have it in my head that women like people, men like things. A woman's people-obsession, on the highest level, can make great art. But usually it's just gossip. Menfolk are at their most (intellectually) manly when they do math, probably. But they can do literature full of people better than women if they so choose.

That's because stories are much, much more than people. They have plots (very thing-y), themes (things), narration (thingy, if done correctly), description (things), dialogue (surprisingly thingy in practice), and so forth. You need such things to hold interest and carry meaning, so as to habe books be more than, "You hear what Johnny said to Susie yesterday?"

Every time I listen to a woman gossip, recount an anecdote, etc., I end up screaming in my head, "Get to the point!" Or, "What's your point?!" They don't hold my interest.

Plot, which is the motive force of literature, does. But it is a maddening thing, plot, and quite beyond most females' grasp.

Blogger SmockMan May 14, 2017 1:25 PM  

Once per day is good with me. There are a ton of books from Castalia House I have not read yet. I bought all the new stuff released since Dec 2016.

Anonymous hoots May 14, 2017 1:25 PM  

I don't think this is the best place for book excerpts. No more than once a week, please. Keep the blog focused on current events.

Anonymous Rfvujm May 14, 2017 1:31 PM  

I'm more interested in non-fiction excerpts than fiction.

I think 2-4 excerpts a week feels like a good cadence, but I really don't have any argument against daily or near-daily excerpts. I don't imagine daily excerpts could affect VP or CH negatively.

Anonymous kfg May 14, 2017 1:33 PM  

The publishing industry isn't asking why boys don't rea books. They're asking why boys don't buy new releases.

That's an entirely different question.

Defoe, Stevenson, Kipling, E.R. Burroughs, Appleton, Conrad, London; dangerous authors of dangerous books, all available quickly, cheaply, and completely under the radar of the publishing industry.

Blogger Trooper York May 14, 2017 1:37 PM  

More excerpts please. It can only lead to more interest and more sales.

Anonymous Crew May 14, 2017 1:42 PM  

This guy seems to have a particularly strong showing on Amazon and is at #93 overall, it seems:

https://www.amazon.com/Dennis-Taylor/e/B010ETTBJC/ref=kar_mr_-1_93

Anonymous Steve May 14, 2017 1:42 PM  

Tublecane - I have a pet theory that mothers make better authoresses than childless women. Because, emotional and spiritual growth.

Also, the picture above looks like a Weight Watchers meeting.

Anonymous Crew May 14, 2017 1:42 PM  

I certainly purchased after seeing the excerpt.

Blogger Elkanah Haon May 14, 2017 1:49 PM  

"So, I'm wondering if that is the sort of end-of-day post you'd like to see here more often..."

Do it.

Anonymous Mr. Rational May 14, 2017 1:49 PM  

No harm in book excerpts.  If it bores me there's always the "Newer Posts" link, and 90% of the time I enjoy getting a bit of the flavor of a book even if I'd never pick it up to read it.

Yes, even a certain Tor author's book.  Laughter is the best medicine.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 14, 2017 1:49 PM  

Also, the picture above looks like a Weight Watchers meeting.

I was struck by how alike most of them look. You wouldn't be surprised to hear it was a picture from a family reunion, and they're all sisters or first cousins.

Anonymous Avalanche May 14, 2017 2:02 PM  

@11 "Every time I listen to a woman gossip, recount an anecdote, etc., I end up screaming in my head, "Get to the point!" Or, "What's your point?!" They don't hold my interest."

Thus the advice of Dr Pat Allen, Alison Armstrong, Michele Weiner-Davis, (and me!) to women to recognize that men ALWAYS listen: "what's the problem" or "what's the point?" -- and if you have anything ELSE you wish to discuss (gossip, feelings, people), go find a girlfriend.

If it's something you actually NEED to discuss with a man: ask when he was time, then be direct about "what's the problem?" or "what's the point?" -- and let him ask for more info of he needs it.

And, if you just want to EMOTE about the world to your man (please, God, NOT about him!!), tell him that is what you need, ask him WHEN he would be available for you to do so, and then remind him before you begin that you don't have a problem or a point; you merely need him to "hold the trashcan" while you pour it all out. (Alison Armstrong's useful metaphor: men, you needn't fix or solve, merely listen (with half an ear)(hold the trashcan) while she unloads into it -- NOT on you!).

Blogger James Dixon May 14, 2017 2:07 PM  

> Excerpt posts are very easy, so I wouldn't need to do it in lieu of other posting. Anyhow, let me know if you'd rather see a) more excerpts or b) no excerpts, and, if a), how often you'd like to see them.

You're going to keep trying till you make me spend money, aren't you? :)

Anonymous Avalanche May 14, 2017 2:09 PM  

I was surprised to see folks wanting excerpts once a day... I was thinking once every other week!

I have several unread Castalia House books sitting on my Galaxy Tab (still working through Innocence and ... whatever... it's in the other room; and I just bought another book two days ago. (Yes, from an excerpt. {BG}) (Plus, I'm desperately waiting for SJWADD.)

But, whatever -- I read pretty much everything you post! (Football (either side of the pond) blog posts... not so much.)



Anonymous Man of the Atom May 14, 2017 2:10 PM  

Bonus post with CH content? I'm no fool -- please proceed with this plan, SDL!

Blogger The Other Robot May 14, 2017 2:12 PM  

Meamwhile, on LinkedIn, a recruiter, Jason LaBarbera, virtue signals:


This really happened: While reviewing some calibration profiles for an Executive search with the founder and CEO of a company, he tells me that he doesn't think it's a good idea to go after women I've selected because they might want to have children. I was pretty much shell-shocked. Having three daughters, I had to check him on these biases. But it made me wonder how often this might actually happen when selecting talent. And how many opportunities have been lost for women as a result of this exclusion bias? I'm certain this isn't isolated. Has this happened to you? if so, how did you react and respond? Curious.

Blogger newanubis May 14, 2017 2:14 PM  

Tuesday Teasers would be most excellent imo. Since Castalia now has breadth of topics and writers, it would be great to have some exposure to these yhat might otherwise simply pass by.

Can always give it a trial run and make a determination afterward. That this is even being considered with reader input is part of what makes this blog so enticing.

Blogger Elizabeth May 14, 2017 2:14 PM  

Women read more books than men, in general. Men are more likely to read non-fiction. If men and boys read fiction, they like action-adventure and war stories. Science fiction is also far more popular with boys than girls. One notable exception is The Hunger Games trilogy, but it focuses on a heroine. From perusing book shelves at Barnes & Noble, fantasy is more popular than science fiction, and fantasy is preferred by girls.

This is nothing new. It's been said that one of the reasons for the popularity of stories involving King Arthur is that there's something for both men (action) and women (romance). For some reason, the new movie featuring King Arthur bombed at the box office.

Anonymous Qadgop the Mercotan May 14, 2017 2:17 PM  

Even when I last had any contact with YA fiction, the vast bulk of it was dull "social realist" stuff (usually involving broken homes in dreary council estates in some Northern city), anyway. I can only imagine how far down the SJW plug-hole it has spiralled in the decades since, in pursuit of "relevance".

Looking back, it only served to provide an incentive to get out of that niche and out into the rest of the "grown-ups" library.

Blogger frigger611 May 14, 2017 2:22 PM  

Looks like your average local witches' coven led by your average local Women's Studies professor meeting again at Applebee's on Margarita Night, with half off the sampler platter, of course.

Blogger VD May 14, 2017 2:22 PM  

Meamwhile, on LinkedIn, a recruiter, Jason LaBarbera, virtue signals:

I look forward to hearing recruiters complain that CEOs and other executives won't talk to them anymore. What sort of service offers checking on one's biases anyway?

SJW convergence in action.

Blogger frigger611 May 14, 2017 2:27 PM  

"For some reason, the new movie featuring King Arthur bombed at the box office."

In the movie version were there magic negro knights who nobly sacrificed all in order to help whitey ultimately survive?

I shunned the new Ben-Hur when I saw that they shoehorned yet another wise-old-sage part for Morgan Freeman.

Anonymous Iacobus May 14, 2017 2:36 PM  

VD wrote:Meamwhile, on LinkedIn, a recruiter, Jason LaBarbera, virtue signals:

I look forward to hearing recruiters complain that CEOs and other executives won't talk to them anymore. What sort of service offers checking on one's biases anyway?

SJW convergence in action.


"Shell-shocked." For once, I would just love for them to hang up their SJW-ways and do their foxtrotting job. But nope, it's social justice, all the time. There's practically a boogeyman everywhere with them; in every closet, under every bed, just waiting to be corrected. (This is the part where the inner fascist they project comes out.)

Anonymous Nathan May 14, 2017 2:47 PM  

@17,

The Bobs are decent characters, but the second book was a string of vignettes that lacked a central plot. Enjoyable, even if it is a little too caught up in compsci atheism and transhumanism nerd rapture. Taylor needs an editor and a writing mentor.

Blogger Jew613 May 14, 2017 2:48 PM  

I like the excerpts but once a week is plenty for me.

Blogger tublecane May 14, 2017 2:54 PM  

@18-My guess would be that childless women are more like men, and therefore more likely to be better authoresses, at least at higher levels. I don't generally read women's genres; maybe mothers are better at those. Most authoresses I've read and enjoyed were well-known ones from the previous century, and as such are more likely to be weirdo loners. Because that's the kind of person who gets to be famous in our declining civilization.

Anyway, this isn't scientific but here is a list I've compiled from the file in my head on authoresses I've read and enjoyed:

Jane Austen: childless.
Willa Cather: childless.
Taylor Caldwell: mother.
George Eliot: childless.
Nancy Hale: mother.
Patricia Highsmith: childless.
Rose Wilder Lane: childless.
Flannery O'Connor: childless.
Barbara Pym: childless.
Ayn Rand: childless.
Anya Seton: mother.
Mary Shelley: mother.
Muriel Spark: mother.
Eudora Welty: childless.
Edith Wharton: childless.

Anonymous BBGKB May 14, 2017 3:06 PM  

The worst is when women think they can write coming of age stories for boys as if they were tomboys that showered more often.

Also, the picture above looks like a Weight Watchers meeting.

All you can eat pizza night at planet fitness. Actually how is their pizza is it worth $10 a month?


Someone OT:Mormons leave boy scouts. Boy Scouts forced to take trannies in January after 1000s of jewish lawfare attacks

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/05/boy-scouts-mormon/

Blogger Artisanal Toad May 14, 2017 3:14 PM  

More excerpts, as often as you like. Might be interesting to carefully select the excerpt to enhance the impact of other blog posts...

Blogger Steve Moss May 14, 2017 3:20 PM  

I think that excerpts of new releases would be a good idea. But excerpts for the sake of excerpts (i.e. a regular schedule that must be met) is not.

As to women writers, it depends on the woman and the subject. I loved everything by Andre Norton as a kid. She, Heinlein and Zelazny were my go to authors growing up. Before her passing, her more recent works were far more miss than hit, so far as I am concerned.

Rosemary Sutcliffe was always good.

Gillian Bradshaw's Hawk of May was brilliant. Her other works were yawn fests.

Julian May's Pliocene Exile books were truly excellent. Her other works, not so much.

Elizabeth Moon has some good books out there and some not so good.

CJ Cherryh has some excellent books.

And I concede I loved JK Rowling's Harry Potter series. Sue me.

So as to women authors, I think Vox is right. Unless they are virtue signalling, males tend to avoid female authors. But this is a mere tendency, not a hard and fast rule. Some are very good but the subset that can (or, perhaps, want to) appeal to male readers is not vast.

My current favorites are Roger Zelazny (I read his books over and over again, the man was truly gifted), Jim Butcher, Steven Brust, and Miles Cameron (aka Christian Cameron).

Blogger Quadko May 14, 2017 3:21 PM  

Minimum, one post per book released, including teaching materials, preferable separate from the current announcement post. Definitely A/B test until you've got an optimal response. Go, Castalia!

Otoh, I only read the ones I haven't decided to/already bought. Don't want to spoil it. That shouldn't stop you from posting them. :)

Also consider including excerpts or teasers for the Castalia blog series, too.

Blogger Duke Norfolk May 14, 2017 3:22 PM  

kfg wrote:Defoe, Stevenson, Kipling, E.R. Burroughs, Appleton, Conrad, London; dangerous authors of dangerous books, all available quickly, cheaply, and completely under the radar of the publishing industry.

This. There's so much good literature out there for boys from yesteryear that there's no reason at all to subject them to the crap spewed forth in the current year. Starve the beast.

Blogger Wolfman at Large May 14, 2017 3:28 PM  

Gangsters of Camelot was an okay movie but considering the current social mood everybody wanted to see an actual King Arthur story. Another example of Hollywood choosing to lose money by hating their audience and forcing diversity and narrative at every chance. There was easy money on the table here and they were just too smug and arrogant to even pick it up. Converged institutions die by opportunity cost.

And there's only so much Hero's Journey a man can take!!!

Boys want brave knights, strong Vikings and cool edgy Samurai. How hard is that to understand? If a videogame can get it right (probably by dumb luck) surely a studio with hundreds of millions riding on a movies success or failure has to at least try to pay attention to what the audience wants, right? No? Looks like they'd rather virtue signal to empty theaters.

[END RANT]

Anonymous Technical Recruiter May 14, 2017 3:30 PM  

That "recruiter" was definitely virtue signaling, and I highly doubt that he "checked the biases" of the CEO.

This happens to a lot of liberal men who only have daughters - they end up swallowing the propaganda and hope their story about having daughters becomes their shield.

Let's bring it back to the thread. Here's how you get around it. Tell the recruiter that you plan to ask what books the candidate last read and when they read them.

Granted - few people actually read and most people will lie, but even their lies are instructive.

Blogger The Other Robot May 14, 2017 3:34 PM  

@45: Well, I read a lot ... both books and code. However, I tend to like Kratman and a few others. These days, though, it is mostly code that I read ... and write ...

Anonymous Vfm May 14, 2017 3:45 PM  

I prefer excerpts when a book is released, or when an excerpt is quoted in support of a particular blog topic

Blogger tz May 14, 2017 3:45 PM  

No Excerpts, or create a blog on Castalia House to post them (Maybe a weekly or so update here with links).

Blogger Jose May 14, 2017 3:45 PM  

There was a joke going around sometime ago where a man and a women alternated writing paragraphs in a story; one wrote self-reflection about a one night-stand, the other wrote space combat. (I forget which is which... :-)

I'd like to be more familiar with John C Wright's writing, particularly with the writing on NOWHITHER.

Blogger Knight Of the Realm May 14, 2017 3:46 PM  

Obviously the recruiter has no idea the cost of maturity leave along with the disruption it causes

Blogger Knight Of the Realm May 14, 2017 3:51 PM  

Excerpts daily for me, if I'm not interested I can easily skip over, however so far I have read each excerpt completely along with the attending comments.

Anonymous BBGKB May 14, 2017 3:53 PM  

Obviously the recruiter has no idea the cost of maturity leave along with the disruption it causes

Perhaps its a healthcare traveler recruiter and he does

Anonymous Philipp May 14, 2017 3:56 PM  

Option a) more excerpts. I would say about two or three times a week.

One of the excerpts from ASOS made me pick up the Selenoth books. So by posting that you gained a reader.

Blogger StatesRights May 14, 2017 3:57 PM  

Being newer to the blog, I like the excerpt idea as one being less exposed to the works. That being said, maybe limit it to once or twice a week to be respectful of the long time lurchers.

Blogger Jose May 14, 2017 3:59 PM  

Found the story co-written by a man and a woman:

http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/tandem.html

(Probably fake, but captures the spirit of the OP)

Anonymous Brawny Pug May 14, 2017 4:04 PM  

As many excerpts as possible, please!

Anonymous Crew May 14, 2017 4:04 PM  

@49: Is maturity leave like when you retire on a pension?

Anonymous Phil O'Sophy May 14, 2017 4:11 PM  

@11 tublecane - There is some evidence to support this "males prefer objects & systems, females prefer people & relationship" hypothesis, and it seems closely related to levels of hormones like testosterone.

http://www.livescience.com/22677-girls-dolls-boys-toy-trucks.html

Anonymous DirkH May 14, 2017 4:28 PM  

The tandem story is real. Look how mercilessly each one kills off the hero of the other.
We used to tell such stories hanging out during free hours in school to bide time. It was exactly as jumpy as that tandem story.
You sit in a circle and one guy tells the story until the guy to the left says stop. THe guy to the right must pick up the tale.
You need beer to do it right.

Blogger BAR-1 Studios May 14, 2017 4:35 PM  

Curveball, Motherfucker.
Have Jon Mollinson or Jim Fear do a *reading* of an excerpt, release video onto youtube as a book trailer with potential cover illo & expected release date.

Anonymous kfg May 14, 2017 4:38 PM  

"There's so much good literature out there for boys from yesteryear that there's no reason at all to subject them to the crap spewed forth in the current year."

And if you start them right off on it, they'll even learn the English language.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 14, 2017 4:43 PM  

Why not post excerpts daily if you've got that many to post? It's easy enough to skip over anything one finds uninteresting.

Blogger Chris Lutz May 14, 2017 4:52 PM  

@29 It's bombing because the movie looks horrible. They threw in a black guy (of course) and it looks like at least one Chinese guy (of course). The editing appears to be spastic and then we have giant monster roaming about.

The Hunger Game movies actually solve a lot of the problems with the books. Plus Katniss isn't some girl-power girl.

Even back in Heinlein's day, his female editor was giving him grief over his juveniles.

Blogger Jew613 May 14, 2017 4:54 PM  

Jose, Whether that story is fake or not I want to read more by Gary. It was just getting good.

Anonymous Takin' a Look May 14, 2017 4:58 PM  

-OT

Star Citizen is delayed indefinitely.

http://www.techspot.com/news/69288-crowdfunded-star-citizen-raises-over-148-million-but.html

Blogger Jim May 14, 2017 5:01 PM  

I'd prefer no excerpts.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab May 14, 2017 5:12 PM  

Excerpts please one a day or a weekly round up would be very cool.

Anonymous Hammerman May 14, 2017 5:13 PM  

I like the excerpts. Go for it.

Anonymous Avalanche May 14, 2017 5:15 PM  

@27 "...founder and CEO of a company, he tells me ... women I've selected because they might want to have children. I was pretty much shell-shocked. Having three daughters, I had to check him on these biases."

Wanna bet his WIFE stays/stayed home with them?! Wanna bet it NEVER EVER occurred to to stay home with them?! None so blind as an SJW!

Anonymous Avalanche May 14, 2017 5:18 PM  

@39 "Might be interesting to carefully select the excerpt to enhance the impact of other blog posts..."

You mean, make the hymn support the sermon?

Anonymous Brick Hardslab May 14, 2017 5:25 PM  

Andre Norton and Leigh Brackett could write stories boys would read.

You don't see enough Harold Lamb, Kipling, Burroughs, or London in schools. I keep print copies of the greats for the kids to read and an electronic version on my readers so I can read along with the littler ones. I can't read print anymore unless it's giant font.

My grandson has these books the school gives him because he's in kindergarten but actually reads. They're all 'adventures' but like others have said the girls are the heroes boys get themselves and everyone in trouble and not once ever I mean never does a boy respond with any kind of force.

The modern books teach boys to be passive.

Anonymous kfg May 14, 2017 5:55 PM  

@Brick Hardslab: "The modern books teach boys to be passive."

"I'm mad enough to believe in romance. And I'm sick and tired of this age -- tired of the miserable little mildewed things that people racked their brains about, and wrote books about, and called life. I wanted something more elementary and honest -- battle, murder, sudden death, with plenty of good beer and damsels in distress, and a complete callousness about blipping the ungodly over the beezer. It mayn't be life as we know it, but it ought to be."

--Leslie Charteris (author of The Saint), 1935.

Blogger Lovekraft May 14, 2017 6:05 PM  

They have to go back..

To writing cookbooks and maternity manuals.

Blogger Chris McCullough May 14, 2017 6:09 PM  

Shoehorning romance into an action story is pointless. The internet has shown women will project any number of fantasties onto anything no matter how plutonic.

Anonymous Wyrd May 14, 2017 6:20 PM  

...and maternity manuals.

Fudge no! That's how we arrived at the current crisis!

Blogger Thurston Pilgrim May 14, 2017 6:38 PM  

I taught English I to 9th graders for 8 years in a rural school in the Deep South. These were kids who were more likely to find their father's porn videos on a shelf than a book. The stories that the male students gravitated to were "The Sniper" by O'Flaherty, and "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell. Not only were they both male authors, but they both featured man vs. man in a battle to the death. These stories were few and far between in the State's prescribed lit anthology, and when I got to Romeo and Juliet, I found myself having to play up the more grim and gritty aspects of the story to hold their attention. It's almost as if (big shocker) the brain of a young man seeks struggle and victory.

Blogger DBSFF May 14, 2017 7:02 PM  

Post them 2 or 3 times a week.

Blogger John Cunningham May 14, 2017 7:03 PM  

VFM #424 here--I would post excerpts daily or at least 4 times per week. I am always looking for new authors. Those who don't like it, SKIP IT.

Blogger Ken Prescott May 14, 2017 7:39 PM  

Shoehorning romance into an action story is pointless. The internet has shown women will project any number of fantasties onto anything no matter how plutonic.

Women have fantasies about igneous rock?

Blogger DeploraBard May 14, 2017 7:41 PM  

Cross expose your endeavors to reach the largest audience. It may be the way new readers find out about Castalia.

Blogger Luke May 14, 2017 7:48 PM  

78. Ken Prescott May 14, 2017 7:39 PM
"Shoehorning romance into an action story is pointless. The internet has shown women will project any number of fantasties onto anything no matter how plutonic."

"Women have fantasies about igneous rock?"

Only if it's phaneritic.

Blogger tublecane May 14, 2017 8:07 PM  

@78-"Plutonic" as in relating to Pluto, god of yhe underworld. Because women make everything hellish.

Blogger Koanic May 14, 2017 8:21 PM  

I wouldn't mind if you posted an excerpt per day.

I use them to reject books more often than to read them, but find both outcomes stimulating. The excerpts are a welcome mental jaunt.

Blogger Koanic May 14, 2017 8:58 PM  

Also, I suspect a heavily underreported driver of the book sales slump is as follows:

People are broke, leading to a retail collapse.

Thus they prefer to either not spend, or spend it on known quantities. So free content is driving out paid content.

Books are still cheap entertainment, so if you can get someone hooked, they'll buy. But a heavy ebook speculative buying habits feels expensive, even if it's not, relatively speaking, because paying for a book you don't like hurts, regardless of the nominal amount.

Excerpts promote addiction and prove credibility.

Blogger Orville May 14, 2017 9:22 PM  

@83 No doubt the greater depression is entering the second stage, but some of the retail collapse is due to online shopping. My wife buys nearly everything that is not groceries on line. I buy everything except items I want to handle before buying on line. Amazon is the most frequent line item in my banking activity reports.

Blogger Jon D. May 14, 2017 9:48 PM  

As far as excerpts and the question: I like what you're doing lately. I think like a once a week fiction round up or so to remind us what all you're selling is handy. I buy most Castalia titles when they first come out but sometimes miss things or forget if I'm busy with a lot of books at that time. Mention 3-5 most recent releases and give an excerpt or something would be cool.

Blogger Jose May 14, 2017 10:00 PM  

Jew613 wrote:Jose, Whether that story is fake or not I want to read more by Gary. It was just getting good.

Then I can recommend the three books by David J Williams forming the trilogy "Autumn Rain," first is Mirrored Heavens, second is The Burning Skies, third is Machinery of Light.

I would, of course, like to recommend NOWHITHER, but John C Wright has yet to release it...

Blogger Jose May 14, 2017 10:02 PM  

Speaking of books announced but not released, what are Kratman & Cole doing about Riding The Red Horse II? At this rate California will actually have sunk into the Pacific Ocean (geology, not climate) before CH takes my money!

Anonymous MendoScot May 14, 2017 10:31 PM  

I enjoy the quotes but they don't sway my decisions, which are made on the basis of supporting CH. The new releases is enough for me to decide.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable May 14, 2017 10:33 PM  

3-4 days a week, like the ideal sex rate I just read about.

Blogger James Dixon May 14, 2017 10:36 PM  

> But a heavy ebook speculative buying habits feels expensive, even if it's not, relatively speaking, because paying for a book you don't like hurts, regardless of the nominal amount.

This is why people who like to read love Kindle Unlimited. A known fixed cost for however many books you want.

Blogger Koanic May 14, 2017 10:58 PM  

> some of the retail collapse is due to online shopping.

See LaFond's "The Ghetto Grocer" for the wonderful world you're missing.

Walmart: By welfare, for welfare.

Walmarts are zerg creep tumors extending the underclass ecosystem. Amazon deliveries are Terran airdrops to bunkers full of SCVs.

Welcome to Walmart. I love you(r impulsive high-margin food stamp dollar).

Anonymous Build That Fscking Wall May 14, 2017 11:55 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote: So, I'm wondering if that is the sort of end-of-day post you'd like to see here more often or if that would be an annoyance.

I'm fully capable of ignoring posts I'm not interested in, although evidently that's not true of alt-White. At least judging by the response to the footballer/cancer post yesterday.

So post away and maybe you'll annoy them enough to go elsewhere.


The Alt-Lite isn't any less retarded than the Alt-White, but Vox benefits from the former, so he doesn't talk shit about them. He publishes Milo and Cernovich, and he regularly is on Molyneux' show which gives him coverage. Not hard to understand.

Blogger Carl Burgeson May 15, 2017 12:08 AM  

More excerpts please.

Blogger Tex May 15, 2017 1:00 AM  

kfg wrote:@Brick Hardslab: "The modern books teach boys to be passive."

"I'm mad enough to believe in romance. And I'm sick and tired of this age -- tired of the miserable little mildewed things that people racked their brains about, and wrote books about, and called life. I wanted something more elementary and honest -- battle, murder, sudden death, with plenty of good beer and damsels in distress, and a complete callousness about blipping the ungodly over the beezer. It mayn't be life as we know it, but it ought to be."

--Leslie Charteris (author of The Saint), 1935.


THIS!

Tex
(learn more at https://infogalactic.com/info/Simon_Templar)

Blogger VD May 15, 2017 3:51 AM  

The Alt-Lite isn't any less retarded than the Alt-White, but Vox benefits from the former, so he doesn't talk shit about them.

The Alt-White is vastly more retarded than the Alt-Lite. There isn't a single Alt-White figure capable of surviving a debate with Cerno or Milo, let alone Stefan or me.

Blogger wreckage May 15, 2017 6:04 AM  

Excerpts definitely help trip my to buy. I am a moody reader; I want a style that suits my desires right now. Excerpts let me know.

Anonymous Thales May 15, 2017 8:59 AM  

Is YA fiction still stuck in the Teen Paranormal Romance ghetto? Looks like it from the attached photo.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable May 15, 2017 10:49 AM  

Frigger611, at this point, I assume that Morgan Freeman is well aware that his parts practically define the "magic negro" trope and he just doesn't care.

Anonymous EH May 15, 2017 11:07 AM  

I enjoy reading excerpts and would like to see some from all the Castalia books. While it would be hard to market them all as hard as the launch of The Android's Dream, many could benefit from more frequent mention. Reader reviews and posts about CH-published authors are also appreciated more than their thread reply counts indicate, people tend to post when they have prior opinions rather than about topics new to them.

Blogger sysadmn May 15, 2017 11:12 AM  

I buy most Castalia fiction as it's released, so I'm only interested in excerpts of new releases. I'm more than willing to skip excerpts from the back catalog, if it proves a valuable marketing tool.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 15, 2017 11:56 AM  

Once a week short excerpts linked to a cross-posted Castalia House blog entry with the full passage "under the fold" behind a cut tag.

Vive Castalia toujours.

@97 From your mouth to Markku's ears. We need Castalia doing hard copies of their YA to sell to the library market. I promise to read, copy-edit, and review 'em if he does (Not to mention give them to the nevvys for Christmas.)

Because it's always a challenge every summer to find the Brotherband, Shadow on the Mountain or Guts type book to promote.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella May 15, 2017 12:53 PM  

smart boys get traumatized away from books. Have you seen the recommended readings for ELEMENTARY school kids? Horrifying!!

Write! Publish! You have no IDEA (yes, I know I'm shouting!) how burned over these fields are.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella May 15, 2017 12:54 PM  

smart boys get traumatized away from books. Have you seen the recommended readings for ELEMENTARY school kids? Horrifying!!

Write! Publish! You have no IDEA (yes, I know I'm shouting!) how burned over these fields are.

Blogger Jaycephus May 16, 2017 7:13 PM  

Any excerpts that highlight a book like Kai Wai Cheah's are welcome. I bought it from CH and it's great so far! Thanks.

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