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Monday, June 12, 2017

Boomercide

The Zman has a few ideas concerning why their grandchildren hate the Boomers:
I’ve never cared for generational politics so maybe that’s why I have no trouble with the younger generation. In my youth, I was forced to sit through endless lectures by Baby Boomer teachers about how Generation X was a bunch of slackers. By the time I reached high school, I could, from memory, draw maps of the Ho Chi Min Trail and recite the playlist at Woodstock, despite having no interest in either. I’ve always thought that my generation’s disinterest was due to having to sit through so many Boomer sermons.

If you are a Boomer reading this, you are no doubt outraged, scandalized and offended at my comments. Just to be clear, I’m not talking about you. You are an exception. In fact, you are unique, like a snowflake, a special creation that stands in stark contrast to the conformity of your coevals. You’re special! That’s always been the amusing part about Boomer culture. They love talking about themselves, but hate it when others talk about them....

Anyway, hanging around the bad kids on-line, I’ve noted their extreme hostility to Baby Boomers and Boomer politics. It’s not the normal youthful rejection of their parent’s stuff as their parents are not Boomers. In the case of the 20-somethings, their parents are my generation. Their grandparents are the Boomers. This means the so-called Gen-Z and Millennials literally want to push granny off a cliff. I’ve read screeds by youngsters to that effect. They really hate the Boomers and not in an abstract way.

The coming Boomercide, if it happens, is going to be triggered by some portly old guys in comfort waist slacks, showing up at an alt-right rally wearing tricorne hats, preaching “heritage not hate.” It is the Boomer impulse to accept the morality of the Left while pretending to reject the consequence of it, that enrages the youth. Whatever you want to say about the alt-right kids, they have this one thing right. Boomer politics is all about the so-called conservatives swearing that the liberals are the real racists, as if it matters.
We know why Generation X hates the Boomers. We've had to listen to variations of their "70 is the new 50" narcissism all our lives and endure their babbling about how their inferior, mush-sounding, crudely recorded analog music played by inept musicians with rudimentary technique is the greatest music created in human history. (I'm not arguing for A Flock of Seagulls here, I'm merely pointing out that neither the Beatles nor Led Zeppelin have anything on Mozart and Vivaldi.)

But that's not why the younger generations hate them. First, I've noticed that the Baby Boomers, on average, absolutely suck as grandparents. Most kids I knew growing up knew their grandparents well and spent loads of time with them. As for me, I was closer to my maternal grandparents than anyone else in my extended family; I still miss them greatly today. But I am amazed to observe how little time many grandparents now want to spend with their grandkids.

Second, I think that the younger generations, growing up in harder times and facing a much more challenging future, are angry at the Baby Boomers for squandering what should have been their inheritance of Western civilization and white America. Even though it's not necessarily their fault - Baby Boomers were not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965 or the Civil Rights movement or the Great Society - the Baby Boomers supported, and in most cases, still support those terrible, dyscivilizational catastrophes. As one commenter there noted, Boomers are the r-Selected offspring of WWII rabbits, “You’ll never want for anything like I did!”

Third, the Baby Boomers grew up in an idyllic white Norman Rockwell picture. That alone is sufficient for the growing and statistically significant non-white minority among the younger generations to hate them.

But a GenXer should not speak for the succeeding generations. Those are merely my suspicions. If you are younger than Generation X, then speak for yourself. Do you admire or loathe the Baby Boomers? Do you wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals or reject them and all their works? Do you share GenX's cynicism or do you consider us to be overly pessimistic? Speak for yourself.

And if you are a Baby Boomer, do your best to restrain your urge to inform everyone how they really feel about your generation. I'm not asking you how you feel about it, and remember, the Zman has already acknowledged that you are a special snowflake, rare if not unique among your g-g-generation. I'm not asking the Gen Xers either, as we already know their opinions on the matter. And let me say as well that I am perfectly aware that macro is not micro and I personally admire those Baby Boomers who somehow managed to cast off the disastrous spirit of their g-g-generation. For example, I think this Boomer has a perceptive take on the situation.
Our poor decisions as Boomers and those of our parents (Silents voted for the folks who put the 1965 immigration act into effect) obliterated them. So it’s no longer worth kvetching about “the youth,” in the same way that these young whites can complain about “the boomers.” The boomers are 90%+ white Americans with several generations of history and tradition, just like their parents. “The youth,” in the America of today are nearing a Mestizo plurality and the shrinking white youth cohort is now politically eclipsed by every other stripe in the liberal rainbow.

Isolating the white youth, I’d say they’re about as good of stock as we ever had. Trouble is, we left them to institutions that were obviously out to destroy them, fill their heads with madness, and let their non-white peers batter them into submission. And somehow by no fault of our own a whole bunch of them have founded the alt-right and got a serious reactionary movement going.

It’s no small feat what the young white men of today have accomplished. Personally, I think it’s time to lend a hand rather than punch down. We earned the licks we’re getting. So far as I’m concerned, the right-wing youth can pillory us all day.
That, I think, is the important point. Even now, it's still not too late for Baby Boomers to throw what is left of the weight of their generational cohort to help their grandchildren and great-grandchildren rather than hinder them.

UPDATE: Boomer narcissism in action.
Real phone call with my Boomer Mom:

ME: Had a friend commit suicide & another die of cancer

BM: Oh that's too bad... we just bought an RV!

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Blogger mike June 12, 2017 4:45 AM  

I'm a Millennial, and I absolutely despise the Boomers for all the reasons described here. On top of that, my Boomer parents and my Silent Gen grandparents are all hard-core Churchians, with all the gay shit that goes along with that.

So, yeah, I got the worst of both worlds: bullshit politics and cucked, effeminate religion. I actually haven't spoken to my parents or grandparents in years.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Anonymous Eric the Red June 12, 2017 4:51 AM  

The attempt at categorization of generations, along with the absurd appelations, is a complete and utter waste of time. It seems to fulfill some kind of intellectual penchant for tidy little boxes about generational outlooks, but in reality it advances no viable agenda and gets in the way of solving real god damn problems.

The whole nonsense should be dropped immediately by anyone with at least a room-temperature IQ.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 4:51 AM  

I don't hate them--I love my family, certainly--but the common theme amongst the boomers I know is they all seem to have their heads in the sand, as if the reality they knew growing up persists today and the only reason any problems exist is because young people are lazy and stupid. I'm sick to fuck of hearing about how those assholes worked part time and graduated college with no debt, then fell into a plentiful job market and worked 30 years at the same place before retiring at 55 with a paid off house and brand new cars in the driveway. Piece of cake!

Seriously, they just need to fuck right off with that smug superiority routine.

It's also cute how so many boomers are really cheerful about saying how they're going to spend all their money before they die, and their kids can fuck off if they think they're getting an inheritance. I wasn't counting on an inheritance myself, but it still seems pretty douchey to say, in essence, that they don't want to try to help secure the future of their families by preserving some wealth to pass down.

FWIW I'm an older millennial, old enough that I often feel like I'm between the two generations. I came of age just before smartphones were a thing, and smartphones changed everything about personal communication, so people even 4 years younger than me often seem socially retarded and can't relate at all to my experiences as a young man.

Anonymous Jameson June 12, 2017 4:56 AM  

Boomers are trash. It would be better if they sat back while the world burned. They remind me of the political elite; only their gated communities is their own mortality. We have to live in the world they created; for decades to come.

Blogger VD June 12, 2017 4:57 AM  

The attempt at categorization of generations, along with the absurd appelations, is a complete and utter waste of time.

Do we... do we have our first Butthurt Boomer spotting?

It's like calling quail or ducks.

Anonymous Eathenware June 12, 2017 5:04 AM  

I'm not sure whether being born in 1963 makes me a boomer nor not, but I've spent my life railing against the appalling decisions made since WWII.

Leaving aside who was responsible for pushing immigration and globalism, I have concluded that the reasons the boomers continually voted for pro-immigration and pro-globalism policies were:

1/ Faith in experts. There was a consensus that the way had been won by scientists. Pre-war, they had been viewed as harmless eccentrics. Post-war, they enjoyed a level of respect completely disproportionate to their abilities.

2/ Respect for authority. For people raised pre-Watergate, the government is inherently honest, albeit flawed. Its actions were believed to be well-intentioned. This also applied to the wider establishment, media etc.

3/Refusal to believe that communist infiltration was happening. "It can't happen here, this is the UK/US/Wherever". This allowed feminism and cultural marxism to take hold.

The boomers inherited a stable society and didn't understand that it was under attack. I think most of them still don't.


Anonymous Eric the Red June 12, 2017 5:10 AM  

@5...
Other than having people waste my time, I couldn't care less. Of course, you're free to waste yours any way you see fit.

Anonymous Magus June 12, 2017 5:10 AM  

"If you are younger than Generation X, then speak for yourself. Do you admire or loathe the Baby Boomers? Do you wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals or reject them and all their works? Do you share GenX's cynicism or do you consider us to be overly pessimistic? Speak for yourself."

So, I'm 28. My dad was born 1958. My older brother is just on the cusp between X and Millenial. My brother and I have very interesting phone calls. We were talking about pensions, and I was saying I was worried about spending decades saving up money, only to have a ton of it wiped out by tax changes, like what happened to our dad with Gordon Brown's meddling.

This really set him off. I was just talking about fearing for my own pension, but he saw it as me feeling bad for my dad, and he goes: "Don't you be too worried about Dad's pension. He's been living on decades of largess. We're never gonna see interest rates like that again, a 30-40 year trend in the stock market like that, etc etc." I have a step-brother who makes the same comments as well, only he's much less polite about it and will say it frankly to my dad's face.

My dad doesn't get it though. He doesn't understand how he's responsible. He doesn't feel like he voted for this stuff. He has nothing to do with the political structures. He's mostly voted Labour or Lib Dem all his life. He just wants nice things and everyone to be happy and looked after. He wants people to be treated equally. He sees himself as progressive, but not a radical, and also something of a sceptic of anything utopian.

(I will say, he doesn't fit the "hates grand-kids" model you describe above - both my parents enjoy spending time with their grand-kids, my dad especially)

And I think that's how many of these boomers feel. They don't see the connection. As you say, they have left wing moralities, but don't believe themselves responsible for the consequences. In cases like my dad, they're smartish people, but they also just don't actually understand, or care to understand, the reality of things. They'll just vote for the guy who makes the job numbers go up, the stock market to rise, etc etc - they don't care what manipulations are enacted.

It's a very dopey attitude, insulated from reality, a reality which my generation are now being hit with. It's the same anger I feel when I read something about millenials not buying cars or houses or whatever, as if it's some bizarre fad among the new spawn, and not a product of our environments. I sense, at least among men in my generation, a resentment about how good the previous generation had it, and how we've been shut off from that.

Anonymous Magus June 12, 2017 5:10 AM  

(had to cut my comment into two)

So, do I reject boomers?

In my case, it's an ambivalent feeling. After all, I went to school, was clothed and fed, and have received financial help from my parents because of that boom period. So I do owe them something. But at the same time, it's like they're that girl in the Marshmallow experiment: they took the marshmallow, hollowed it out and ate the inside, got a second one as a reward, which they promptly ate, and "gifted" us the hollow marshmallow.

I mean, I'm staunchly different from most my family. I can tell you that, although my maternal grandad (I guess he'd be "Greatest generation"?) is now dead, I'd feel more politically close to him than my dad (paternal grandad died before I was born, but from what I hear the same is true). He was a real bootstrapper and a scoundrel. Always getting himself into trouble, jumping from one business venture to another. He lived in South Africa for a long time, and he was the kind of guy to openly call Mandela a terrorist. He was a very blunt Tory, more of the Enoch Powell side of the party, and supported Thatcher in her campaign.

I love my father and am grateful for everything he's done for me, everything he's taught me, and every talent and virtue I've gotten from him -- but, politically speaking, it's my grandad I really admire, whereas my dad is a bit... soft.


Do I share Gen X cynicism?

No. I think of the characters in Clerks. Or Dazed and Confused, or Slackers. or the pony-tail guy in PVP Comics. They're archtypical Gen Xers, right? I don't feel an affinity with them.

I'd say what I feel is one step beyond that, and into fatalism. I'm not just disabused of the promises of my society, but I'm resigned to accepting that it can't be fixed. The system will crash. But with that I do feel a great sense of optimism, and want the crash sooner or later. We're in a time of chaos, swirling around, and I want us to hit the centre already. That's the core feeling at the centre of my being. A shifting uncertainty about the future, and I just want the cataclysm to come already, so that we can move past it and rebuild.

So, it's a fatalism, but... a very optimistic feeling. It *is* going to all crash down, but we're strong enough to get through it and find a new path, because we're disabused of falsehoods, and prepared to face reality. I still feel like my generation is too soft to really do the rebuilding, but we're good enough to raise the generation who're gonna grow up and be the heroes of tomorrow.

Blogger Chris McCullough June 12, 2017 5:13 AM  

Three things have infuriated me with boomers.

The obsession with exotic vacations.

This strange notion that getting a job hasn't changed since 1970.

Their bizarre ineptitude with technology.

I don't know if its just the guys I know, or a sample of an overall trend, but in the circles I walk in these seem the most common.

Blogger Doom June 12, 2017 5:16 AM  

Definitely a butthurt award going out. Not room temp though. Will be soon enough. :)

Blogger wreckage June 12, 2017 5:18 AM  

I'm slightly younger than GenX, older than whoever the next bunch are. My dad, a boomer, considers most boomers to be honourless scum. His experience bears this out.

@8 Boomers don't even watch the numbers go up or down, they don't give a single damn. But then, most of my generation don't either. They've all bought into the idea that the economy, money, it's not resources, it doesn't get used up, it's MAGICAL (but also a shell game; so being as it's fake, it's OK to believe it's also MAGICAL.)

The last couple of elections here shamelessly put Boomer (and later) lifestyle spending on my kid's credit card, and none of them, Boomer, GenX, NONE of them, know why I hate them for it.

So, it's not just the Boomers. Millenials, if they get woke, will hate our generation too.

Anonymous Gurpgork June 12, 2017 5:29 AM  

The boomers I know have no problem pointing out that young people will have to work 10-15 years longer to pay for pensions. They say this without remorse or guilt. When I explain to them the mess they made they shrug it off or deny it.

Most of the boomer parents I see are busy spending everything they have before they die, leaving nothing for their children. They justify this because they "worked hard" for this. My own mother will have no money left by the time she has to go into a old people home. I am by law required to pay for this. There is no talking sense into her. At the same time they still manage to look down on us.

I tell them their time is coming, that they can work until they drop dead to alleviate the debt hole they dug. If they are unable to work they get euthanized. They squandered everything the people before them fought for, possibly ending our civilisation in the process.
Deep down they know it is true because you can see the panic in their eyes.

Blogger Twisted Root June 12, 2017 5:40 AM  

The Boomers should weigh in, if only to avoid 'The Palm Springs Massacre' and live to see the statues to St. Breivik go up.

Blogger Wolfman at Large June 12, 2017 5:42 AM  

Your generation inherited a Golden Age and then spent forty years pissing it away!

Yes I definitely understand the millennial rage.

Blogger Lovekraft June 12, 2017 5:42 AM  

Simply put, Boomers encouraged the dilution of our history, heritage and foundations and discouraged inquiry, skepticism and real justice.

Worse than self-absorbed.

Anonymous TheBoom June 12, 2017 5:55 AM  

The right is doomed to fail unless it starts valuing winning over virtue signaling and infighting. While the left is getting more cohesive in their crazed quest to battle Trump, Putin, nationalism, whatever, the right is carrying on the tradition of Conservative Inc and primarily fighting with other non-leftists. The right would rather splinter into factions and virtue signal about how their group is the purest than find a way to for alliances. Over time, whites should continue to move farther and farther to the right but the right doesn't want this. They would rather, like Conservative Inc, lose. I have been reading regularly about how the alt-lights hates the alt-right and the feeling is mutual. Conservative Inc hates both.

Now, the enemy du jour is the boomers. Never mind that the older you are the more likely you are to vote populist and nationalist (with the exception of France) and that the boomers were the main voting block for Trump and Brexit. What is important is to find the new villain du jour. I guess in the freak chance the right manages to really come to power such Boomer villains as Steve Sailer, Mark Steyn, John Derbyshire and Ann Coulter will need to go the guillotine.

Blogger Unknown June 12, 2017 6:04 AM  

Their parents fought, killed and died thinking it was to preserve certain liberties and values, but their own sons and daughters, the Baby Boomers, decided to burn that gift to the ground when they came of age in the 60's and 70's. They were bequeathed a mansion of freedom and liberty, and they burned it down with smiles on their faces. They burned marriage and the family down. The women screamed that to slaughter their unborn was a """right""". They demanded the destruction of the family and said they need men like fish need bikes, as they also demanded welfare paid for by taxes paid overwhelmingly by men, and used infrastructure and technology created and built and maintained by men.
If you work, fight, kill and die to achieve something and protect it, you'll cherish it. If you're just given it, you probably won't give near as much of a fuck about it.

This is why, if there's another World War, I won't fight in it. Don't make the mistake the men of WW2 did.
If I did fight, it would be for Islam just to spite them.

Blogger VD June 12, 2017 6:07 AM  

Now, the enemy du jour is the boomers.

The Boomers have been an enemy since we were born. But nice try at evading the inescapable.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera June 12, 2017 6:08 AM  

Xers haven't already gassed the Boomers. What else do you need to know about either group?

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 6:11 AM  

I quote King David:

"Bring his hoar head down to the grave in blood."

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 6:18 AM  

"Their bizarre ineptitude with technology."

Operating a smart phone isn't technology. Inventing, designing and building it is.

Operating a smart phone is magic.

Anonymous Carlos Danger June 12, 2017 6:21 AM  

I think the serious Boomers were fooled by the fact they never in a millions years expected their leaders to betray them. We had a high trust society then and such things were simply inconceivable for most people.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 6:23 AM  

"Xers haven't already gassed the Boomers."

Xers, coming between the Baby Boom and the Little Baby Boom will always be a minority. One of the things they have to deal with is that they will never have power by numbers.

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 6:27 AM  

Perhaps execution is the wrong punishment for those who have shed no blood, but only betrayed their race, nation and God.

Instead, let them be banished to the South America they intended to create. Preferably penniless.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 12, 2017 6:32 AM  

@18 The Boomers' parents got duped into an unnecessary war, voted the socialist totalitarian FDR into office four times, accepted linking arms with the Soviets, which resulted in the enslavement of Eastern Europe, voted a foreigner and a Catholic into the Presidency and accepted the dismantling of the US borders and enactment of the Great Society. They probably deserve more blame than the Boomers, to the extent it makes sense to blame any generation rather than just a nefarious class.

Personally, I would say the blame rests with a relatively small group of leftist activists. The WWII folks were simple and easily manipulated by the new mass media. The Boomers were coddled in a strong white America, easily indoctrinated through the expanded reach of public education, and didn't appreciate the threat to what they had.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 12, 2017 6:34 AM  

@25 They are going voluntarily. Do you know the lifestyle you can afford in Belize, Costa Rica, Ecuador, etc. on a subsistence US level retirement?

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Give us this day our daily bait, that we may crush our enemies, see their weaksauce driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women, thank you Baby Jesus, Amen ) June 12, 2017 6:35 AM  

2. Eric the Red June 12, 2017 4:51 AM
The attempt at categorization of generations, along with the absurd appelations, is a complete and utter waste of time.



uh, okay.

so why don't you go tell the Boomers to shut up about their generation?


like Vox doesn't want me to repeat:
Boomers are going to get a lot more solipsistic ... before they all die.

Blogger Dire Badger June 12, 2017 6:36 AM  

Boomers were the 'me' generation, Xers were (and still are) the "We did everything they told us to do, how the feck did THIS happen?" Generation.

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 6:39 AM  

@27 Let those thieves and wastrels make restitution ere they depart.

I suspect Millenials will take great satisfaction in shutting down Social Security.

Perhaps we should discontinue the USD and pay them in worthless 1 billion dollar Boomer self-esteem notes.

Blogger ZhukovG June 12, 2017 6:40 AM  

I tend to follow Strauss and Howe's(The Fourth Turning) dates for generations. Primarily because they focus on social trends rather than birthrates for defining where a generations birthdates are located:

G.I. Generation (1901–1924)
Silent Generation (1925–1942)
Baby Boom Generation (1943–1960)
Generation X (1961–1981)
Millennial Generation(1982–2004)

I would be lying if I didn't admit that part of my partiality for these dates is that it makes me an older member of Generation X rather than a really young Boomer.

I don't know that I totally buy into Strauss and Howe's complete generational philosophy. But we are definitely in a period of existential crisis, and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

I think there is great value in honestly looking at generational virtues and vices. We want to try and find ways to, in future generations, promote the virtues while suppressing the vices.


Anonymous trogs June 12, 2017 6:44 AM  

@23 "I think the serious Boomers were fooled by the fact they never in a millions years expected their leaders to betray them. We had a high trust society then and such things were simply inconceivable for most people."

I think this is right. They just don't understand, because they haven't spent time on the internet, reading and debating their enemies, nor have they been exposed to diverse schools, and entire systems designed for ethnic warfare against them. They simply watch TV that reinforces their ideas, and will continue to do so until they die, with the exception of the very smart ones who make a habit of using the internet.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 6:46 AM  

"We want to try and find ways to, in future generations, promote the virtues while suppressing the vices."

Oddly enough, that's how we got here:

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

Blogger Alexandros June 12, 2017 6:54 AM  

Boomers, huh. Anecdotal, but I'm a millennial and, outside of my family, I hate their guts. The narcissism isn't the problem, it's the self-righteous lectures on politics that get under our skin. I wouldn't be surprised if the "Hitler did nothing wrong," meme originated out of our contempt for their special snowflake feelings.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 12, 2017 6:54 AM  

kfg wrote:"Xers haven't already gassed the Boomers."

Xers, coming between the Baby Boom and the Little Baby Boom will always be a minority. One of the things they have to deal with is that they will never have power by numbers.


See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Blogger ZhukovG June 12, 2017 6:58 AM  

@kfg: Could that not be 'suppressing virtue, while promoting vice'? Which may be the chief sin of the Boomers.

Not that the Boomer generation is a completely bad thing, they have given us our beloved God Emperor. While he does exhibit some Boomer vices, he has also recognized the need for change. More specifically he has helped facilitate the rise of the Alt-Right.

Blogger Conor Foran June 12, 2017 6:58 AM  

Everyone knows Star Wars. And everyone knows the Gospel of Lucas - "Anger! Hatred! Agression! The dark side are they! Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny!"

This is both indicative and symptomatic of the real problem with the boomers, even the best of the boomers - the real NABALTs. None of them understand that, for some things, for some actions, the proper and even holy response is anger and hatred. They cannot conceive of why it would ever be necessary to hate with a holy hatred because all of their lives they have been sheltered.

They have been sheltered from Truth, from Reality, and from the consequences of their own actions. For the Boomers, life is a childrens' story, and the world a brightly-painted children's garden where everything will be ok if we could just all be NICE to each other. And they believe, in the depths of their hearts, that Good and Nice are the same thing.

But they aren't. Nice people aren't Good people and Good people aren't Nice people.

Nice - late 13c., "foolish, stupid, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (from PIE root *ne- "not") + stem of scire "to know" (see science). "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (late 14c.); to "dainty, delicate" (c. 1400); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeable, delightful" (1769); to "kind, thoughtful" (1830).

And that is the Boomers to a T. Foolish, Senseless, Stupid, Ignorant, Agreeable. They never grew up and they never will, and they hate, hate, hate the very idea of suffering the consequences of their actions.

Blogger Wyndie June 12, 2017 7:00 AM  

I'm a late Boomer (1957) and I agree that my generation deserves this hate and scorn. As a southern white man, I was red pulled on integration at 13 (1970) as we white kids were bussed to black areas " to achieve racial balance". I've experienced women being granted preferential status in the work place, with 3 female bosses and many female employees. I watched the H-1B scam damage the possibility for American kids to get good paying jobs in I.T. My 3 kids have thanked me for paying their way through college while most of their friends have huge debts. Silent and Boomers have ruined their societies and most are oblivious to what they have done. I worry about the world my grandchildren will inherit.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 12, 2017 7:04 AM  

To be perfectly clear, the reason I loathe Boomers is that they are filthy, shameless liars. You can't blame that shit on genetics or even the schools.

Show a Boomer FBI crime stats, what happens? They get indignant at reality and "correct the record". This is why we can't have a nice country anymore.

((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Give us this day our daily bait, that we may crush our enemies, see their weaksauce driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women, thank you Baby Jesus, Amen ) wrote:like Vox doesn't want me to repeat:

Boomers are going to get a lot more solipsistic ... before they all die.


Not to mention desperate. I expect the gas meme will cease because the actual need to exterminate them will become too serious to joke about.

Bobby Farr wrote:@18 The Boomers' parents got duped into an unnecessary war, voted the socialist totalitarian FDR into office four times, accepted linking arms with the Soviets, which resulted in the enslavement of Eastern Europe, voted a foreigner and a Catholic into the Presidency and accepted the dismantling of the US borders and enactment of the Great Society. They probably deserve more blame than the Boomers, to the extent it makes sense to blame any generation rather than just a nefarious class.

Then you'll be happy to know most of the survivors are being abused in nursing homes by immigrants who don't know what "OW" means or what a fire alarm is.

Anonymous Basket of Deplorables June 12, 2017 7:07 AM  

I would encourage the millennials to familiarize themselves with Sulla and Proscription as a way of stabilizing the funding of the nation.

Many Boomers intend to have nothing when they die, but they may be surprised at how quickly it happens and why they have nothing. Less about generations than treason, but there is no reason George Soros's children should be influential billionaires rather than farm labor. Take their stuff. Zuckerberg wants UBI? Fine, antitrust, monopoly, exploitation suit against FB, with a penalty of issuing every American citizen one share of facebook every month for a year. Take their stuff. Rockefeller foundation? Take their stuff. Harvard endowment? Take their stuff.

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident June 12, 2017 7:08 AM  

"Dazed and Confused" was high school graduation, 1976. Boomers. Late Boomers, but Boomers still.

Some call this group "Jones-ers," i.e., the ones who were still in grade school when Woodstock happened. The ones who had to grow up hearing all the stories, knowing no matter what, nothing they did would ever be considered half as "cool." The ones who found all the tenure/management track positions already filled by the big bulge that immediately proceeded them.

The ones who remembered the idyll of a 90% white America before it was all smashed to pieces.

My junior high civics class voted for Nixon over McGovern by 29 - 1.

You think Millennials hate Boomers? You obviously haven't talked to the Boomers' younger siblings.


I must confess, though, that I didn't really get my hate on until I, rather unexpectedly, had a late in life son - blond hair, blue eyed son. I had already been immigration skeptic, but having, not just skin, but actual flesh and blood in the game was a hella red pill.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 7:15 AM  

Gurpgork wrote:My own mother will have no money left by the time she has to go into a old people home. I am by law required to pay for this. There is no talking sense into her.

Have you taken her to one to see what its like? Then after, start mentioning how humane Right-To-Die legislation is and bemoan the lack of Quality of Life of the old folks.

Anonymous David-093 June 12, 2017 7:16 AM  

Millennial. I despise Boomers, not for their generation's shitty culture or music, but for denying us the country they grew up in. Rather than leaving us a semi-united nation with a prosperous future, we've been through a pointless war, a second Great Depression (which they deny exists or that could be a result of anything other than typical youthful "laziness") and are now facing the prospect of a bloody civil war. Great future guys, thanks!

The Boomer complaint of "well it wasn't all roses you know!" rings hollow when you hear a drunk driving illegal kills a family in your hometown, some thug murders a guy at a gas station, a war vet friend dies of an overdose, or a leftist decides it's time to mandate the latest degeneracy. The 50s weren't perfect and everybody acknowledges that, but throwing them away for "drugs sex and rock n roll, man" and claiming today is better is infuriating beyond words.

OpenID aew51183 June 12, 2017 7:17 AM  

"If you are younger than Generation X, then speak for yourself. Do you admire or loathe the Baby Boomers? Do you wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals or reject them and all their works?"

I'm a milllennial (by year born), but i'm born late to a boomer parent, itself a reflection upon the inherent dysfunction of the Boomer generation, which is characterized by a generalized failure to recognize and deal with reality in whichever context it may assert itself.

This is not limited to the boomers alone, but traces back to the silent generation.

For example: My grandfather, while incredibly successful and responsible, failed to demand that of his daughter, resulting in her being utterly dependent upon him for everything, unable to manage her own money or even keep her own home clean. My grandmother similarly stepped in to provide grounding for me rather than teach my mother what she was doing wrong as a parent.

We have in the boomers a generation of wishful ostriches who were raised and supported all their lives by one of the most capable generation of "enablers" in history, and the result has been a supremely disconnected generation that pisses away the wealth they should be nurturing for future generations and enacts public policy and social pressures which threaten to utterly topple civilization as we know it.

It's time the boomers moved on.

Blogger YIH June 12, 2017 7:18 AM  

''We're spending our children's inheritance!''
That they did.

Blogger Stilicho June 12, 2017 7:20 AM  

@31, Zhukov, that's a better generational timeline than the media use. Typically, the media try to expand the boomers (perhaps narcissistic boomer types trying to enlarge importance of their generation by making it appear bigger) but they also try to minimize Gen X by shortening the applicable time frame while expanding the time frame of the Millenials to infinity. I suspect it is because boomers know X ers despise them, but think Millenials will be their lies against X. I think the boomers will be surprised when they find Millenials pulling the plug on them while Xers stand by saying "Meh, they should have seen it coming."

As for the generational divides, Strauss and Howes are pretty close with a few years on either side of the line being a no man's land where someone born in those years can go either way.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 12, 2017 7:26 AM  

I am on the old side of millenial. I think in some ways the older millenials were lucky and in some ways we had it the worst. We still got to see glimpses of the society that once was when we were young. We also saw the transition to what it is now.

I am slightly angry at the boomers and their persistent attitudes. It's clear that a generation never learns anything after they are 17-25. The boomers hold feminism and civil rights as sacred. They believe that since medicare and SS were around when they were kids that those programs will still be around for their kids. They think that because they worked their way through college then this generation should be able to as well. They don't understand that their generation put programs in place that allowed tuition to skyrocket while simultaneously importing people to take up all the jobs a college student would normally perform.

The silents in a lot of ways are just as bad. They think the government has a never ending supply of cash and do not care what happens to the younger generation. A good portion of them are millionaires that will get their butts to the polls to vote against anyone who thinks about touching their SS or medicare even though they could afford to live without either of them.

I wouldn't say my hate is all that viseral for the older generations. I think they are largely self centered and over inflate their accomplishments. At the same time I think if my generation were given the same resources and society the boomers had we probably would mess it up worse than they did. The reason part of us are better is because we were handed this mess. There is still a good portion of my generation that is in the boomer mindset except on steroids.

Blogger wreckage June 12, 2017 7:26 AM  

There's an oddity though. Previous generations learned duty by watching duty then emulating it. The boomers just learned they could take advantage of the dutiful.

I can't think of a neat, pat explanation for that. it seems a sudden and really frighteningly near-total cultural breakdown.

Blogger Werekoala1066 June 12, 2017 7:30 AM  

Dire Badger wrote:Boomers were the 'me' generation, Xers were (and still are) the "We did everything they told us to do, how the feck did THIS happen?" Generation.

Exactly.

Blogger Leandro Novaes June 12, 2017 7:34 AM  

I was born November 1981. My father was born February 1954.

I am not sure if I am a Millenial or a Gen X.

But I do know for sure that I share your hatred.

My father lived in a world where he studied in public schools his whole life, paid for college with a part-time job and landed a exceedingly good job before he even finished it. The kind of job that is not available to present and mine's generations unless we have a Masters, at least. He has been and is paid handsomely well to do it, while a person fresh out of college today is paid a tenth of what he earns to do the same thing. He was paid so well, right out of college that, back then, he managed to go into two house mortgages at the same time, paid them off, and still had money to support a family with four children by himself.

I echo the sentiment of everyone here when they say that such generation is completely out of touch with the reality of our times. My father speaks as if the times never changed, as if jobs are both plentiful and wages are ever increasing, and all we need to do is work 'harder' to get everything we could possibly want. Like, you know, he 'did'.

Never mind the country facing the worst economical crisis ever in history, with 14 million people unable to find a job, and 56% of those 'employed' to be so by taking part-time, temporary, or low-skilled jobs in order to just make ends meet.

Hmm... end of rant. I think I found the answer.

I speak primarily for myself, but I am pretty sure I echo the sentiment of everyone here:

"We hate the boomers because they are unnaffected by the consequences of their own bad decisions. We hate the boomers because we are going to have to pay with our blood and the blood of our children for their bad decisions while they live of the largesse of their previous generations. All that while they look down on us for not being as successful as they are."

Blogger Ransom Smith June 12, 2017 7:39 AM  

Middle Gen Y , born to parents in that weird gap where Boomers and Xers overlap.

Mixed feelings. As a rule I'm for gassing Boomers.

Boomer genocide when?

My parents are okay. They at least save their money. Though I keep telling my dad to use something besides the US dollar.

But at the same time, they pushed me into college Boomer style. And my elder sisters were allowed to be feminists. Eldest sister thinks a woman president would be good. Haha. Yeah sure sis.

Otherwise, I despise older boomers. They killed Christianity , invited the world, made college worthless, are okay with interracial marriage. Etc etc etc.

Blogger Tank June 12, 2017 7:39 AM  

It's hate a boomer day.

Bring it.

Bring your best.

You little pajama boys got nothin.

And your music sucks too.

And we're better armed.

Ya'll come on down South here and get us.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 7:42 AM  

@Zhukov: "Could that not be 'suppressing virtue, while promoting vice'? Which may be the chief sin of the Boomers."

The Boomers didn't "just happen." They weren't the generation that brought us here, they were the first generation subjected to the forces that brought us here.

The canaries in the coal mine. They shoe what happens when the "virtuous" teach children to suppress virtue.

There is a bit of selection bias in the attitudes of the alt-right. People in the alt-right are not typical of their generation. Most of the Millennials who hate Boomers hate the alt-right even more. They are Boomers turned up to 11.

Because they didn't "just happen." They were made. By people born in the Victorian and Edwardian eras. People who became movers and shakers in the 1920s Golden Era of Socialism.

Blogger Reuben June 12, 2017 7:45 AM  

Millennial here. I hate the way boomers and even GenXers look down on millennials and describe them as lazy. They hear about more people living at home at 25 than ever before, and willfully ignore the fact that wages have remained stagnant in the face of significant real inflation. Minimum wage, social security, and Medicare bloat translate into no good careers and a higher cost of entry than ever before, with lower payoff. Which do you choose: work at Starbucks for $10/hr, or go 100k in debt to start making 35-40k a year? But yeah, we should also buy houses and big SUVs while we are at it.

I love it that so many are moving towards self-employment, whether online, entrepreneur, even all those health product clubs so many smother social media with. Annoying as it is, it's wonderful to see people trying to build something themselves. This draws further ire from boomers...why can't we just be happy on a fair paycheck and pension? Why don't we find a good company and stay there for 25 years?

Even while largely bypassing most of this personally (STEM degree, kept college debt low, etc), it confounds me how I much debt is needed for most of my generation to sustain the standard of living our parents have set. But yeah, tell me again why preferring flexible hours, remote working, and to be paid based on skills/performance instead of time spent mindlessly indwelling a cubicle means I'm lazy.

The world the boomers created is why millennial a hate them. Why does Office Space resonate with us? Because it's the world we live in.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 7:47 AM  

@ 52

Oh, shut up, you wrinkly old puss. Like we have time to beat up geriatrics when we're trying to fix the problems you blinkered idiots made.

Now toddle on back to your shuffleboard game, and mind you don't break a hip on the way. We can't afford your medicare bills as it is.

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 7:48 AM  

"You little pajama boys got nothin."

We have that which conquereth all:

Time.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 12, 2017 7:48 AM  

they were the first generation subjected to the forces that brought us here.

All the more reason to hate them then. They saw what was coming and did nothing. Stewards of Gondor.

Blogger Leandro Novaes June 12, 2017 7:49 AM  

@52 We don't have to fight you. All we have to do is deny you access to your blood pressure meds, and the consequences of your stupid decisions while younger will catch up to you quickly.

Anonymous I wrote the Magna Carta June 12, 2017 7:51 AM  

People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

Blogger SouthRon June 12, 2017 7:52 AM  

"The attempt at categorization of generations, along with the absurd appelations, is a complete and utter waste of time."

Of course it is. That's why God slew that faithless generation that wandered in the wilderness for 40 years.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 12, 2017 7:52 AM  

There's also simply the purely economic question. I'm in my late 30s with 2 kids. I'm pretty sure most people my age or younger who are not committed leftists understand that Social Security is probably not going to be there for us, and is certainly not going to be there for our children. So essentially we're being forced by the government to subsidize boomer retirement and will never get any help ourselves. How can that not foster resentment?

Oh, and OT, but I put a new video up today. Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? https://youtu.be/KfI0kEE2RO0

Blogger S1AL June 12, 2017 7:57 AM  

I think the issue with Boomers can be summed up with one phrase:

"They treated their freedom as license."

The generation that inherited wealth, freedom, prosperity, and greatness behind any other generation in history squandered it on... Woodstock. Rather than bearing and raising the children they could easily provide for, they indulged in the murders of Roe v. Wade. The generation before them built the greatest road system the world has ever seen - they've allowed it to decay and collapse.

And now Gen X - largely ignored and dismissed - and Millennials, largely coddled and deceived, get to (maybe) fix the mess. Now, I've got hard words for both groups... but nothing near what's reserved for the Boomers.

Anonymous OK June 12, 2017 7:58 AM  

Born in 1946, I watched most of the things going on in society with horror. LBJ, foreign wars, more and more government, Woodstock, etc. It started in with Emperor Lincoln, then on to 1913 with the income tax, 17th Amendment, and the Federal Reserve. The banker cabal has been herding us into their vision since then.

The vision is to completely destroy the society we had and herd us into globalism controlled and owned by them. The movies, music, cultural leaders, academics, politicians, media, are all tools of this process. This inter-generational conflict is a harmful distraction. We all have allies and opponents of all ages. There are those who get pulled into the collective consciousness, and those who don't. Stop getting tattoos and nose rings.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.



Anonymous Harambe June 12, 2017 7:59 AM  

So basically Millennials/Generation Z are pissed because their grandparents haven't grown up yet and they won't share the XBox controller. And I don't mean this sarcastically. What I mean is Grampaw is still wanting to relive the glory days when he was sliding down the Woodstock poo slide (It wasn't just mud in that video. True story), high on LSD. And because he's still in Woodstock mode, he has nothing of value to offer a generation of kids who have absolutely no idea what the world is about.

Blogger Chris Lutz June 12, 2017 8:00 AM  

@35 I'm just on the past the classic (1966) dividing line of Boomer and GenX. Most X'ers grew up before the 1965 betrayal really took hold. Also this is before the Internet. We still had a mainly white society and everyone was telling us how great things were except for the evil Reagan and Republicans. By the 80's, there was some societal push back against the Boomer chaos but it was eventually swamped by simple Boomer numbers.

KPG is correct. Most X'ers were going "What happened?" by 2005.

Blogger YIH June 12, 2017 8:01 AM  

@31 ZhukovG:
Rather awkward definition isn't it?
My family:
Grandparents: G.I. Gen
Parents: Silent
Children: Boomer/Gen X (depends on how you define those, could be either, or both)
Their children: Gen X/Millennial (same thing, can be defined either way)
''Gen Z'': Never has known life without the internet. (i.e. <25 YO)
(I'm not arguing for A Flock of Seagulls here, I'm merely pointing out that neither the Beatles nor Led Zeppelin have anything on Mozart and Vivaldi.)
The Beatles and (I'd say The Eagles rather than Led Zeppelin) as well as Elvis share something with Mozart and Vivaldi, they're iconic. I'd say Prince and Nirvana also rise to that standard.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 12, 2017 8:08 AM  

Generational politics, etc. is a lot like race. There's a distribution, central tendencies, SDs, and what not that are helpful to understand society level dynamics. But it all gets very muddy when taken to the individual level, for sure.

I was born in '63 and therefore am a late boomer or early Gen Xer, depending on whose time frames you accept. And I do feel like a tweener, for sure.

One thing is for sure, I totally understand the younger gen's antipathy and anger. The world has gone to shit, and they have to deal with it as the prototypical Boomer talks about spending their last dollar and taking more on top of it thru Soc Sec. Pull their plugs, indeed.

Regarding SS, if I see it I plan to funnel it to my 2 sons and any grandchildren. We'll see how that goes. Not a great solution, but there aren't many these days, are there?

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 8:09 AM  

"They saw what was coming and did nothing."

And the Millennial OWS and Antifa have an even greater scope of hindsight.

But the operant conditioning techniques developed by the Soviets, Nazis and Maoists were injected into American culture, and there you are.

The good news is that the minority of school children who become "lost pigeons" appears to rising.

Blogger The Kurgan June 12, 2017 8:12 AM  

Eric the red boomer alert

Blogger Orville June 12, 2017 8:14 AM  

Don't worry, the great die-off is nigh. The leading edge of boomers is now hitting 70. Just be sure to pull the plug on Obiecare and Medicare though or gramps and granny will be getting extremely costly healthcare just to squeeze a few more months or years out of an otherwise pointless existence.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 12, 2017 8:14 AM  

And every time I read/hear something about how useless the Millennials are I just think, "but who raised them?" Who instituted the stupid participation trophy nonsense? Who sheltered them from the world and didn't instill a sense of responsibility and work ethic? You could go on and on in this vein. Boomers can be very obnoxious, for sure.

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 8:16 AM  

If you are younger than Generation X, then speak for yourself. Do you admire or loathe the Baby Boomers? Do you wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals or reject them and all their works? Do you share GenX's cynicism or do you consider us to be overly pessimistic? Speak for yourself.

Millennial with Gen X siblings. The generational trends that other people have mentioned bear true in my case as well.

At the moment I mostly loathe boomers only after Vox pointed them out, and I realized that what he was saying was completely true. And the Boomers coming out of the woodwork on cue only proved him more right. Anyway, that's a position I believe a lot of Millennials are on -- they're mostly ambivalent about Boomers only because they simply haven't connected the dots yet.

Boomers being as narcissistic as they are AND approaching the end of life, leads me to believe you're going to see a sharp uptick in Boomer hate, perhaps an exponential growth.

On GenX, I believe Millennials mostly share views except how they express that cynicism is/will be different. A lot more fists flying out than GenX would've done, I imagine.

Blogger Orville June 12, 2017 8:16 AM  

@63 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

No, as a fellow boomer, I disagree. Burn them (us) with the fire. You are looking at the individual, and some of the x'ers and millenials are too, but it's the boomer system that must die.

Blogger Salt June 12, 2017 8:17 AM  

You have to be careful with Boomers. They carry NUKES.

Oh, sorry. Wrong thread.

/s

Blogger Sam Spade June 12, 2017 8:19 AM  

My fathers are Boomers, they are great persons, and definitely no leftist degenerates. They always had decent jobs , and a relaxed life, with no problems.


And they buy some of the myths the media and politicians tell them about immigration, wellfare, despite them beign right winged. And form time to time use rethorical bullshit about my radicalism.

Fortunatelly they are disgusted with the worst shit I show them about SJWs in Spain.

But the thing is, deep inside they don't feel a real threat,they don't like some things, but they don't see them as vital issues, or more than anecdotes.

And they are not going to do anything to stop them.

Blogger Paul June 12, 2017 8:20 AM  

So the Alt-Right is now to be considered a generational movement of the Xers and Millennials? And self-loathing Boomers?

Anonymous polarbearballs June 12, 2017 8:27 AM  

I'm a Gen-Xer from the exact median of my generation (lowest birthrate, 1970). This hits so close to home. If I had a nickel for every sermon I grew up hearing from Boomers...and all those awful 1950s public service films about driving a car or smoking. haha.

I consider Gen-X 1965 to 1975 births, period. I'm sorry but if you grew up as a teen in the mid to late 90s (versus the 80s), you aren't a Gen-Xer, don't remember gas lines, Solid Gold, the nightly news about battles in Lebanon, Disco (as a kid), Grease sweeping the nation, actually watching Bruce Jenner throw a Javelin, the excitement of the Friday Nite Movie of the Week "(Tonite, ROGER MOORE in...), steel-wheeled roller skates, Atari the day it came out, staying home from school and catching some weird show in re-runs called "Love, American Style" that you knew you shouldn't be watching, questioning why the "father' was gone from Land of the Lost, but now the uncle suddenly appears?, keeping the thermostat down, hating the Russians (and Iranians), playing out doors for hours, a long way from home, with no one calling the CPS/cops on your parents, etc etc

Blogger Ken Prescott June 12, 2017 8:27 AM  

I am either a pre-post-boomer or a post-pre-boomer. Last of four kids, technically a Navy brat although my father had retired from the Navy by the time I started kindergarten.

I was a Marine for eight years, my service time was bookended by KAL 007 and the Moscow Coup. I loved, I mourned friends who got unlucky, I got out...and found out that everyone wanted to pretend that we hadn't actually spent nearly 50 years on the edge of species extinction over how the world would be run.

I hate Boomers because they either grabbed the wheel in panic or bitched at whoever was driving, but never did anything actually useful to steer us through the crisis..and then loudly took credit for everyone else's hard work.

I worry that we haven't raised the next generation to be resilient enough to handle the shot sandwich we made for them.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 8:29 AM  

"And every time I read/hear something about how useless the Millennials are I just think, "but who raised them?"

Exactly.

"Who instituted the stupid participation trophy nonsense?"

Bernays, Skinner and Mao.

Blogger Good Will June 12, 2017 8:31 AM  

I remember a conversation I had in college with my Boomer mother. Tuition was more expensive than I thought. I didn't have enough money to eat through the month. I was selling personal items just to get by. I asked my mom for $100 for food. She said, "No, honey, I just bought a new grand piano and a Beamer, I'm strapped. You'll have to ask your father."

(Okay, I admit, I'm a douche, begging my parents for money. After all, it was their money. They inherited it from their WWII parents who survived the Great Depression and built modern America.)

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 8:34 AM  

" . . . then loudly took credit for everyone else's hard work."

Yes, that is what I have been accusing them of. Things happened all around them and to them, they watched it, experienced it, and forever after have been proclaiming that they did it.

So it is to some extent their own fault that they get blamed for things that they really had little or nothing to do with.

Blogger James June 12, 2017 8:34 AM  

"I think the serious Boomers were fooled by the fact they never in a millions years expected their leaders to betray them."

This has been true of all generations. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition. No one expects to be betrayed by their leaders. I don't know why. The political process of signs, stupid hats, kissing babies, etc., is such a farce that no one should expect those that get elected to respect their constituency.

"they were the first generation subjected to the forces that brought us here."

Actually, no. This and the statement before it reflects the sad state of our historical understanding. The study of history, well, of all liberal arts and social sciences, has become an Orwellian attempt to mold the future. I can trace our current dilemma back to the formation of the Bank of England. Each subsequent generation has been deceived, used and abused by an overriding financial entity. One that uses such divisive tactics as turning each generation against the other.

I do find that younger generations than the boomers tend to envy Boomers. At least those on the left. The current Anti-Fa, anarchists, White BLM supporters, egalitarians, and such really do believe they missed out on something in the 60's. The Boomers have been presented as "changing the world". Every young person wants to change the world. The social behavior of contemporary libtards suggests that their protests, demonstrations, chants, and costuming is just an attempt to engage in what they see as social change. However, they, like their Boomer models, aren't concerned or even aware of the inevitable results of their actions. I think many Boomers are now aware of the forced social reorganization that occurred in the 60's and 70's. But, they weren't in charge when that happened. They were only the young useful idiots that protested the war in Vietnam, began the ubiquitous mindless sloganeering that we still see today, supported dissolving sexual mores, supported racial integration, and promoted the laughable proposition that someone that is 18 to 24 years old has the wisdom to pontificate about and judge the foundations of the social contract. Today, we see the results of that. This is what young leftists want to emulate. If they had an appreciation of history, they would not fall into that trap again. But, those that ignore the past are doomed to repeat.

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 8:34 AM  

"If you are younger than Generation X"

There is a stench of poser cynicism about Gen X, sort of like how the Boomer edginess of Woodstock fucking in the mud became every white girl is now a slut, so the Gen X edginess of angst and drugs became a junkie zombie suicide epidemic.

The Bible is a cheerfully bloody book. Genocide counts in large amounts. Deus vult!

Blogger Farnswords June 12, 2017 8:35 AM  

This is a difficult topic for me. I am an older millenial, and my parents were boomers. They died a few years ago in a car accident.

My love for them is unending, and what they gave me was invaluable: a loving home and a happy childhood. I miss them intensely every single day.

However, it's undeniable that they had many of the characteristic boomer flaws, and it's hard not to regret some things I feel were withheld from me as their child.

I think the central thing they missed was giving us any sense if an inheritance. There was nothing to pass on. No religion, no explicit value system, no over-arching identity, no sense of purpose.

I hate that I was raised in the public schools the way they were, that neither my Mom or Dad tried to teach me a valuable skillset, that no one sat me down and helped me find a direction for my life, until I became a Christian later on.

Regardless, I have no bitterness towards them, but only the overwhelming affection that they gave to me. I just can't deny that they represented a severely flawed generation, and that it shaped my life for the worse in some ways.

I have no respect the boomer generation as a whole. Let them die. They squandered an enormous inheritance, and taught others to do the same.

I hope we millenials and gen Z are able to rediscover what's been lost and forgotten, or to form something new that will be valuable to our children. As I've said before, I see it happening in my church and others, the disdain for our parents' ways leading to a new perspective, a new faith that is pruned and focused on the deeper things that the boomers neglected and wasted.

Blogger rumpole5 June 12, 2017 8:42 AM  

Thinking about Boomers is a waste of one's time. A very good argument could be made that our whole civilization has been in decline since the time of either the black plague/reformation that blew up medieval society, or the "enlightenment"/French revolution, that gave us socialism/communism. The decline has, paradoxically, been both aggravated and extended by our remarkable tecnical progress. Western Civ. screwed itself hugely in WW I and II, and nuclear disaster has been imminent for 70 years. Meanwhile, festering on the fringes, like a chicken pox virus waiting to bloom into a severe case of shingles, has been, (and is) Islam.

We Boomers are largely irrelevant now because we are steaming toward 70 and up. We have our faults as pointed out above, but I will point out that our votes gave us Reagan and now Trump. Trump is very much a Boomer by the way. These two men have done more to reverse our slide toward disaster than any Gen X or Millennial that I am aware of. Trump just might be even better than Reagan. God bless, guide and protect him.

As for the Alt Right, I am much encouraged by their attempt to clearly analyze the challenges that we Men of the West face. I point out that the Nations that appear to be best meeting these challeges are those that are focusing on National traditional themes. Viz: Poland, Russia, Hungary, Japan, and the like. If the Alt Right falls prey to utopian "isim" fantasies it will crash and burn just like socialism, communissim and conservatism have. Men were not designed to live in a theoretical mental construct.

Finally, in my personal case, it was my Greatest Gen parents who squandered their families' fortunes. They went from millions to a few thousands in one generation. In contrast, my personal estate has grown every year. I gave my son an excellent private Classical education, and I also plan to help him pay off his Med School debts, and to leave him a significant inheritance. I also have "dementia" insurance so that he won't be stuck with my nursing home bills.

I suspect that there are many Boomers like myself who have led "quiet and peaceable lives in all godlyness and honesty". The problem is that we are the ones you are least likely to hear from or about.

Blogger JohnofAustria June 12, 2017 8:42 AM  

Older end of the Millenia generation, can't stand the boomers. My Pop is one, and one of the few super conservatives of that age. So he inadvertently taught me to hate them when I saw the effects of their liberal idiocy.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 8:44 AM  

""they were the first generation subjected to the forces that brought us here."

Actually, no."

I am aware of the previous history.

"The study of history, well, of all liberal arts and social sciences, has become an Orwellian attempt to mold the future."

That is what I was referring to. The techniques that are actually effective in doing that hit the public school system in the 60s, although they had been on that track for some time before.

"I can trace our current dilemma back to the formation of the Bank of England."

The Knights Templar created the modern banking system to handle wealth transfer during the Crusades. The Medici family largely perfected it.

Then the Bank of England adopted the techniques (and the techniques of the limited liability company from the Dutch).

Blogger BunE22 June 12, 2017 8:46 AM  

Woodstock, seriously? There were about 75 million baby boomers and maybe a half million went to Woodstock. Woodstock was nothing, normies thought the attendees were druggie losers. Don't ever think Woodstock defines Boomers, it defines the left and their hedonistic lifestyles and their quest for Utopia.

Blogger Good Will June 12, 2017 8:46 AM  

@14

"The Boomers should weigh in, if only to avoid 'The Palm Springs Massacre' and live to see the statues to St. Breivik go up."

It's interesting that you say that. Every Thursday night in Palm Springs they have a street fair: a half-mile-long "runway" of kiosks set on the sides of the main road, Palm Canyon Drive, with hundreds of people walking in the middle of the street to buy "new age" crap, get messages or shop for fruit.

An enterprising St. Breivik-wannabe with a Humvee could have a field day ridding the world of many Boomers, vapid party-going Spring Breakers, unmarried harems in their 30's and 40's celebrating "girls' night out," and not a few faggots.

Blogger Good Will June 12, 2017 8:51 AM  

@23.

"I think the serious Boomers were fooled by the fact they never in a millions years expected their leaders to betray them. We had a high trust society then and such things were simply inconceivable for most people."

That's why electing people like Edward Kennedy -- men of low morals and character -- to office is a mistake. They sell the country down the river every time. Those in power today are just like Ted Kennedy.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 12, 2017 8:54 AM  

Boomer hatred of Generation X turned into self hatred for SJW GenXers.

So much so that they frequently deny being Gen Xers at all.

What I always found laughable about GenXer SJWs, was just how deeply they drank of the Boomer kool-aid. The older ones often tried to pretend they were Boomers. Going one and at length over how much they loved listening to Janice Joplin on the radio despite the fact that no radio station was spinning her caterwauling on the air in the late 1970s.

The ones that pretended they went to Woodstock were even funnier when. "Dude are telling me your parents took a one year old to Woodstock because that's how old you would have been.

I recently (within the past six months) read something that was even more hilarious, "...is also enjoyed by older Millennials, ages 30-44..."

What Millennial is 44 freaking years old?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 12, 2017 8:57 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:I tend to follow Strauss and Howe's(The Fourth Turning) dates for generations.
...
I would be lying if I didn't admit that part of my partiality for these dates is that it makes me an older member of Generation X rather than a really young Boomer.


Same here. I've been disgusted by the boomers all my life. All my life, they've been there just before me, taking the good jobs, bidding up the houses, taking it easy while I took the leftovers.

Boomers were pretty open about their intent to destroy the nation I remember growing up in, too. They didn't vote for Hart-Celler, but they kept men like them in office to this day.

For me, the great thing about the rise of the Alt-Right has been that finally, I'm not alone.

Blogger dienw June 12, 2017 8:59 AM  

Ah, you poor babies. Life is so terrible. Where did the nasty Boomer touch your Cabbage Patch doll?

For crying out loud, do you think that you were the first generation to have to put up with bad eggs from previous one: I had to put up - infact not just me but three generations - had to put with a screaming - literally screaming- liberal U.S. History teacher from the "Greatest! Generation;" if it wasn't part of the socialist/liberal Narrative, it was not true. Long before I had him as an indoctrinator the students who had to endure him called him "Willie the Rat."

The movie "The Helstrom Chronical" was an ironic pleasure when I saw it a few years later.

Then, after this creep, I had to endure a member of the Silent Generation teach U.S. History II. Another damn liberal/progressive who refused to answer questions outside the Narrative.

The Silent Generation nitwits also ran the universtiy (Rutgers) I attended: they ruined the arts, no, the humanities; the French "insructor" had us writing letters to his landlord; the Silent Generation art instructors ruined the classical art education there that would have gotten you into the Sorbonne.

The Silents also ruined music: just listen to Perry Como, Tony Bennett, and Frank Sinatra on an oldies station; then switch to a station playing rock 'n roll. Utter crap.

And they raised the idiot Boomers who gave my generation a bad reputation.

But no, 'tis the evil Boomers.

So who is reponsible for the latest generation of soy fattened and emasculated "(she)males" and the soy masculinized, fat "females." And did Boomers hold them down and tatoo them from head to toe and simultaneously pierce their bodies with pins and rings; and did boomers make you tie you hair up in a garbage bag knot? Put giant holes in your earlobes?

Every single person is responsible for their own behavior. Every single person has to deal with and is responsible for their own iniquity. Period.

Anonymous X June 12, 2017 9:03 AM  

A silent generation professor said he had never seen a generation of sheep like the boomer generation. As for boomer narcissism see above.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 12, 2017 9:08 AM  

Those who hit adulthood in 1982 got a foretaste of things to come. Tail end boomers, yes, but leaving the starting line in the pit of a deep recession leaves a lasting impression, not unlike that of a depression.

Most hitting adulthood in the 90's never experienced want. And those coming of age since then, while crushed by debt, still often "have it all."

When the bubble does finally pop for good, rage will have ample targets. There's nothing worse than feeling cheated of what you believed was promised, or of losing what you had.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 9:11 AM  

"There's nothing worse than feeling cheated of what you believed was promised, or of losing what you had."

Silver was taken out of the money in '65. It was a very busy year.

I wonder what might have happened in '64 to help set it up.

Anonymous Trump June 12, 2017 9:11 AM  

Millennial here and I gotta say I dislike Gen Xers almost as much as I do Boomers. I mean talk about a bunch of whiny bitches. We get it the Boomers ruined your life, you can stop bitching incessantly about it.

Anonymous Gurpgork June 12, 2017 9:11 AM  

Boomers just can't seem to grasp that not only did they shit on the rug, they then blame gen x/millennials for the dirty rug, actively get in the way of cleaning up the shit and expect gen x/millennials to pay for replacing the rug when it eventually rots.

We will clean up this mess. Get out of the way or become part of the mess that gets cleaned up.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 12, 2017 9:12 AM  

I remember reading an article a few years ago by a high school teacher who has horrified that the kids in his classes did not care for The Beatles. Just some old white dudes, why should they care about that stuff. His solution, teach The Beatles like the teach about Bach and Beethoven.

You cannot make this stuff up.

Anonymous polarbearballs June 12, 2017 9:14 AM  

@rumpole5,

thanks for being here and checking in with your thoughts. As a GEN-Xer (with parents who were just slightly older than Boomers, and culturally were "old school", being from the South), I grew up realizing MANY so-called "boomers" were basically like my parents, Elvis over the Beatles (by which time they were busy ironing and washing soiled diapers as my mother noted), horned-rimmed glasses, conservative dress well into the 70s, question authority, but don't go around shatting upon every institution simply because it's traditional. work hard, eat.

Someone on Z-man posted a little truth nugget. GenX (with our often pre-boomer parents) are the last generation (no including elderly boomers) who actually REMEMBER the original WASPish American Culture. I think that is why so much of what we see around us, as GenXers is perplexing, especially the celebrity worship and black sports fetish (from our own white peers).

The culture has gone OFF the rails, and things are acceptable now that NEVER were in the past...and of the big red pill realities, it used to be you could have a disagreement with some woman just like a man, because women were after all, "adults", but now men know you had BETTER NOT argue with princess because you will be labeled a bully, misogynist, all that. It's unbelievable how much unearned respect women get these days that you would NEVER have seen growing up in the 70s and 80s.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora June 12, 2017 9:16 AM  

I learned to hate Boomers by reading comment sections on news websites. Mostly 'right wing' ones since leftists have their own problems. Boomers loved insisting younger generations were entitled ingrates while never once even showing a dim awareness of how anomalously richly they lived in historical terms. I don't blame people for circumstances they're born into but when you mistake that for having earned it and trumpet your achievements every chance you get you're probably a Boomer. Also not sure how many apocalypse obsessed Boomers realize by their own time line they are the cause of the final generation count down. That's how bad they are by their own admission. Israel > 1948 > Boomers

Blogger Cail Corishev June 12, 2017 9:18 AM  

His solution, teach The Beatles like they teach about Bach and Beethoven.

Then the next step will be to teach the Beatles instead of Bach and Beethoven, the way they've already done with history, literature, religion....

Blogger VFM #7634 June 12, 2017 9:18 AM  

U.S. Deaths per Year:
2009: 2,437,163
2010: 2,465,936
2011: 2,515,458
2012: 2,543,279
2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630

Anonymous TLM June 12, 2017 9:19 AM  

That Update on this post was hilarious & spot on! Sounds just like my boomer mother-in-law. No matter what you tell her, she just ignores it and counters with something grand about herself.

I enjoy ridiculing the boomers I know by reminding them how they wouldn't stop caterwauling about how evil Atari & video games were in the early 80's, only to turn themselves into Facebook junkies in their twilight years spending 7 hours a day playing Farmville, Slots, etc and pretending they have a real social life outside of the internet.

Blogger ZhukovG June 12, 2017 9:23 AM  

What is humorous about these threads is way Boomers react. As a member of Generation X, I am well aware that vast swaths of my generation are idiots. I have myself at times in my life exhibited the vices of my generation. Likewise the Millennial generation also includes a lot of damaged goods.

But Boomers take things so personally. Why so serious?

Criticize my generation, I'll likely agree with you. I won't get butthurt over it. I accept responsibility for my part of my generation's failings and I don't get the vapors over those things I was not responsible for.

Boomers need to accept the fact that for the most part you got a sweet deal and squandered it. All the while only exacerbating the errors of previous generations. Does the criticism apply to all of you and equally, no. But it does apply.

So quit making excuses and help us fix it.

Blogger Dane Prywatne June 12, 2017 9:27 AM  

@13

"The boomers I know have no problem pointing out that young people will have to work 10-15 years longer to pay for pensions. They say this without remorse or guilt. When I explain to them the mess they made they shrug it off or deny it."

Well most probably you make a bad point that they as egoist do not care about. Say something "we will probably have to nationalize your pension to pay national debt and if some of you die of hunger - too bad"

Then you will get a reaction.

Anonymous Reenay June 12, 2017 9:31 AM  

Millennial with late-ish boomer parents here - reading all these posts by millennials with boomer parents really shows why the generational categorizations are valid; my parents behave EXACTLY as described in these other posts.

The ones about the boomer moms talking about what they just recently bought in a conversation about a beloved friend dying rang so true! My boomer mom also shares that despicable trait, she'll try to steer conversations toward stuff she bought or do. It's bad enough that she's a woman, so she has that natural female solipsism, but the boomer part really turns it up to eleven.

And of course, my father was that ruthlessly 8-to-5-working father who was somewhat distant, but still approachable. I see that pattern play out in the other posts above too. Boomers really are a thing.

Blogger James June 12, 2017 9:39 AM  

kfg wrote:"
"I can trace our current dilemma back to the formation of the Bank of England."

The Knights Templar created the modern banking system to handle wealth transfer during the Crusades. The Medici family largely perfected it.

Then the Bank of England adopted the techniques (and the techniques of the limited liability company from the Dutch).


I think "current dilemma" is the operative phrase. The actual banking scam goes back to Babylon. Loaning 10 drachma to pay back 11 is an impossible scam if there are only 10 in existent. The Bank of England led to the creation of the British Empire. It is this permanent centralization of authority that allowed the conquest of the West and, hence, our "current dilemma".

Blogger dienw June 12, 2017 9:40 AM  

"I'm not sure whether being born in 1963 makes me a boomer nor not...."

Yes it does. Now go make a Gen X, Y, Z, and a Millenial cry about how you ruined their life.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 12, 2017 9:41 AM  

The GI generation was the one largely responsible for covering up the deliberate, cowardly sneak attack on USS Liberty, by naval and air forces of the Empire of Israel, which occurred just over 50 years ago.
ussliberty.org

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 9:42 AM  

All the good Silents died in WW2, I guess.

Anonymous TLM June 12, 2017 9:44 AM  

And for anyone that doesn't believe all that is said about the Boomers, they even built their own little Boomer paradise down in Florida called The Villages. You can study it like an ant farm. It's constantly sunny & smug 365 days a year. Every so often good stories come out of it like skyrocketing herpes infection rates, gaming the tee-time system for the golf courses, restrictions on grandkids, etc etc.

Blogger kennymac June 12, 2017 9:53 AM  

Tank, could you please just go take a hike? You're almost as tedious as Tad.

Blogger kennymac June 12, 2017 9:55 AM  

It's funny, since my kid 20s, I've been telling my Boomer mom (born in '46) that her generation ruined this country. It's nice to be vindicated after all these years.

Blogger kennymac June 12, 2017 9:55 AM  

Mid 20s that is.

Blogger Chris Lutz June 12, 2017 9:58 AM  

@111 Silent generation was born during the Depression and WW2. They didn't fight in WW2.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 12, 2017 9:58 AM  

dienw wrote:"I'm not sure whether being born in 1963 makes me a boomer nor not...."

Yes it does. Now go make a Gen X, Y, Z, and a Millenial cry about how you ruined their life.


I hope we meet at Ilkmoot someday.

Anonymous 7817 June 12, 2017 10:01 AM  

Born in 80'. I don't hate my boomer parents by any means, just don't listen to them any more about things not related to practical, hands on skills.

Oddly enough, when I was almost out of high school and wanting to know things about how the world works, or what I ought to do, they would never tell me anything. It was like they were afraid to give me direction, with the result that I learned to not ask them. Later on my father gave me some (unasked for) really good career advice which I followed.

In general,the church boomers that I know fit mpai to a T. They are blissfully unaware of the demographic storm that's brewing.

Here's what's strange though, it seems to take continual effort to stay woke about things; I wonder if it is because I am Gen X, or the guys my age are stuck right between the generations. Anecdotal.

Blogger Guitar Man June 12, 2017 10:02 AM  

Are the baby boomers similar to the generation that was destined to wander in the desert until every single on of them died off?

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 10:02 AM  

@116. Chris Lutz
Silent generation was born during the Depression and WW2. They didn't fight in WW2.

Well that's egg on my face. Mea culpa.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 10:06 AM  

"I think "current dilemma" is the operative phrase."

Right. '65 was a critical year across the board. Even with everything that had come before (the US Federal Reserve Bank, the New Deal, etc), there was still a line and some solid ground to fight from in '64.

And a lot of people fought very hard, but the line did not hold and by '66 it was gone.

Blogger Amos Bellomy June 12, 2017 10:06 AM  

Millennial here. My opinion of the boomers on a personal "who I know" basis is perfectly fine. My opinion of thhe generation as a whole is essentially "Look around, it wasn't my generation that caused this mess".

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 12, 2017 10:06 AM  

TLM wrote:they even built their own little Boomer paradise down in Florida called The Villages.

Yep, all the really rotten ones have gathered together, making them very easy to identify, and a nice fat target.

I'd rather go right now than live in one of those places. That's why I live in rural MO.

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 10:08 AM  

@118. 7817
Here's what's strange though, it seems to take continual effort to stay woke about things; I wonder if it is because I am Gen X, or the guys my age are stuck right between the generations. Anecdotal.

Personal running theory is that it's a combination of two things. One, it's generally pretty tempting to try and forget the more abstract painful things. Two, GenXers in particular grew up during more idyllic times, so it's more tempting to try and use the same conflict resolution that the idyllic times used. That is, 'agree to disagree'.

Blogger Durandel Almiras June 12, 2017 10:09 AM  

Do you admire or loathe the Baby Boomers? Do you wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals or reject them and all their works? Do you share GenX's cynicism or do you consider us to be overly pessimistic?

Gen Y here, came of age in the late 90's. I say yes to all three questions.

Blogger JWM in SD June 12, 2017 10:10 AM  

Okay, I'm a GenX'er a bit younger than Vox. I wonder if maybe the vitriol for Boomers as a whole is actually a bit misdirected. It's the leftists of that generation that made their way into political positions that have largely set the policies which have resulted in the current mess we are in right now. Now don't misunderstand, I do think that as group the Boomers failed to stop the subset of political left from gaining so much power but I don't know that they are directly responsible either.

Blogger Rabbi B June 12, 2017 10:10 AM  

Tank, could you please just go take a hike? You're almost as tedious as Tad.

Butthurt boomers are best boomers.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 12, 2017 10:10 AM  

Also, they hold them responsible for this sort of thing.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/06/06/report-evergreen-protesters-roaming-campus-with-baseball-bats/

Having been born in 1963 I am at the tail end of the boomers. Turned 18 in 1981. Was lucky enough to get an education before colleges went totally insane. Latched onto some of the last of the post WWII prosperity and have managed to hold on to jobs in IT while watching others lose jobs to outsourcing and H1B visa hires.

The thing younger people, who grew up after the advent of the Internet don't understand is just how different the media environment was before that happened. Imagine the MSM even more leftist than it is right now, with no other competing voice. Just about every person of importance believed that communism was the wave of the future. Ronald Reagan, who was basically a leftist who was mugged by reality while serving as the president of SAG, was caricutured as a buffoon for merely preferring his own country to others.

Vox talks about the 1965 immigration law, and I think that is important. I also think the deal Reagan made in 1986 to amnesty illegals in exchange for enforcement of the immigration laws, that was almost immediatly reneged on by the COC types is also very important in that it demonstrated that the political and business leaders did not care, at all, about the welfare of anyone other than themselves. They simply did not care about the nation as a nation at all.

Yet nothing changed. Because anyone who disputed the narrative was utterly unable to be heard by more than a handful of people. And those that were speaking out would be merclessly riducled. I think the left is panicing because they believed that the Internet was going to lead to their acension to power. Believe it or not, at the advent of the Internet, with Bill Clinton as the POTUS, the left thought they were the ones who lacked power. And the freedom of speech allowed by the Internet was going to enable them to usher in a borderless utopia. How could it be otherwise since they had sweet, sweet reason on their side and were standing on the correct side of history?

Turns out a free exchange of ideas isn't an ideal environment for them after all.

Blogger Joshua_D June 12, 2017 10:11 AM  

Does Tank think the South is comprised of just Boomers?

Blogger Quilp June 12, 2017 10:12 AM  

Generation Jones, so I'm often technically ,lumped in with the boomers. But oh how we despise them as well. You will find many of the older supporters of the Alt right, like Myself among GJ. We endured their virtue signaling before anyone had labeled it so, then endured their two step back to "free market principles" when it was clear they had emptied the various troughs before we had reached the age to feed. Industrial, academic, Business...coming of age in 1980 was quite a bit different than in 1960. By that time, The boomers had eaten the troughs as well as what was in them. So if you are going to push boomer gramps off a cliff, please, allow us to enjoy it as well. If for no other reason than making us sit through MASH episodes.

Blogger dienw June 12, 2017 10:13 AM  

All the good Silents died in WW2, I guess.

The Silents are those who came of age in the 50's: the Beats, Abbie Hoffman, Jane Fonda, the "Don't trust anyone over 30 crowd" who were over 30; this age goup was the leadership of the Hippie, Yuppie, and anti-war movements.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 10:13 AM  

"Look around, it wasn't my generation that caused this mess".

Exactly what people were saying in the 30s.

Anonymous johnc June 12, 2017 10:13 AM  

For people interested in generational differences they might like this talk (~40 mins) about how demonic spirits can affect entire generations. He goes through all the recent generations and makes the good point that things went off the rails with the "Greatest Generation".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dWrv_jM64

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 10:14 AM  

@125. Durandel Almiras
Gen Y here, came of age in the late 90's. I say yes to all three questions.

Those aren't yes/no questions, you big goof.

Otherwise what exactly are you saying 'yes' to? That you *do* admire the Baby Boomers, wish to emulate them and embrace their ideals?

Blogger Durandel Almiras June 12, 2017 10:14 AM  

So after the Reconquista 2.0 removes all the foreigners since 1965, what do we do about the Boomer problem? Welfare has to go and we know the Boomers will fight that cane and breathing tube.

Blogger Giraffe June 12, 2017 10:15 AM  

JWM in SD wrote:It's the leftists of that generation that made their way into political positions that have largely set the policies which have resulted in the current mess we are in right now. Now don't misunderstand, I do think that as group the Boomers failed to stop the subset of political left from gaining so much power but I don't know that they are directly responsible either.

It will be fun watching them moan when the government isn't able to take care of them in their old age.

Blogger Durandel Almiras June 12, 2017 10:16 AM  

@134 Student in Blue
Loathe, reject, share in cynicism.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 12, 2017 10:18 AM  

In general,the church boomers that I know fit mpai to a T. They are blissfully unaware of the demographic storm that's brewing.

I occasionally try to bring up uncomfortable facts with people my age or older such as that there is a professor at Princton who argues that it is ok to kill babies after they are born if they haven't developed "conciousness" yet. And that allowing any male that claims he "feelz" female to go into womens' restrooms is going to enable a lot of perverts. Usually I get a blank look, like they didn't hear what I said and change the subject.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 10:23 AM  

"Welfare has to go and we know the Boomers will fight that cane and breathing tube."

And the Millennials, who are now the largest generational demographic, will join them, entitlement and global consciousness.

The alt-right is a minority. Doesn't mean it can't win, and even become the majority, but we still have to get there from here.

Blogger Sevron June 12, 2017 10:25 AM  

Gen X. My parents are mostly good- Mom always told us to never live around blacks or "Mexis", Dad taught us to work with our hands. But my siblings and I are on the far right of the bell curve, and haven't really suffered like the rest of our cohort have, economically.

But the social toll has been terrible. I remember being in middle school. I used to read old fiction books voraciously, stuff from the 30s - 50s. And I remember when it clicked on me why I did so one day; I could see that something beautiful used to exist and was gone now. I remember confronting my parents and saying "You tore everything down but didn't replace it with anything!" It wasn't quite right, but it was the right feeling.

My brother is a great man. He is hard working, smart, decent, kind. He has never done drugs, does not drink to excess, does not smoke. Brings home a six-figure salary. But because he isn't exciting or has tats, because he's quiet and not flashy, no girls for him. He's 40 and hasn't been married, although it's his deepest wish to be married and have children. I have seen the light in his eyes die.

In any other age, a nice dependable delta like him would have no problem getting a good wife in his 20s. I will gladly burn this society down on his behalf.

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 10:27 AM  

And the Millennials, who are now the largest generational demographic, will join them, entitlement and global consciousness.

Hard to be entitled when there's no inheritance left.

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 10:28 AM  

At some point this thread may finish a review of 250 years of American history and realize that there has never been a good American generation.

But muh Constitooshun, the Boomers said.

Blogger Thucydides June 12, 2017 10:32 AM  

A lot depends on your life experience too. I am a Boomer, but spent my adult life in the military and was deployed to enough second and third world shitholes to realize how great I had it at home.

Now I am mostly Alt-West rather than Alt-Right, but still do whatever I can to advance the cause and cause confusion and consternation to Progressives wherever and whenever I can. (Since I live in Canada, it is like starting an uphill journey in the foothills of the Himalayas, but it has to be done). Most Canadian Millennials who hate the Boomers are generally pissed because they can't get their inheritance fast enough (or realize it is slipping away, but never equate the high taxes and fees which divest Boomers of their savings with the Socialistic politics of Canada in general).

Sad times we live in.

Blogger pnq8787 June 12, 2017 10:37 AM  

I blame the Boomer Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQowhuEcGSk

Anonymous Jim Scrummy June 12, 2017 10:38 AM  

"Even now, it's still not too late for Baby Boomers to throw what is left of the weight of their generational cohort to help their grandchildren and great-grandchildren rather than hinder them."

Unfortunately, for me, my in-laws have become cucked boomers. They voted for Shillary, whereas their son-in-law and daughter voted for Trump. They have become more cucked over the past 4 years. Kind of sad in a way, because I use to think they were two of the few boomers I actually liked. They don't care about their grandchildren, even though their words say they do.

My experience with boomers has been crappy most of my professional life. The boomers I have worked for and with have always complained about working so hard, when in actuality they were hardly working. The boomers, particularly my direct line supervisors use to invent stupid excuses for me no earning my just rewards for out working them. So, when I would leave that organization, they were always shocked that I was leaving...? Hey, you screwed me over, why should I stick around? For the most part now with my boomer "bosses" I ignore them and tell them in a nice polite way they are full of excrement, and they leave me alone to get actual work done. What I really despise are the little suckup millenials I have to interact with daily, sucking up to the worthless boomers. They are talentless suckups much like the boomers. Not all millenials are suckups, some are more based than me, and abhor the BS being shoveled by the boomers.

Blogger JC June 12, 2017 10:39 AM  

I was born in the 80s and a lot of my extended family are boomers and in education and other government work. A few like my parents (who may just scrape into the Gen X bracket), realise their error. But most are as you describe.

I loathe them.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros June 12, 2017 10:42 AM  

"To be perfectly clear, the reason I loathe Boomers is that they are filthy, shameless liars. You can't blame that shit on genetics or even the schools.

Show a Boomer FBI crime stats, what happens? They get indignant at reality and "correct the record". This is why we can't have a nice country anymore."

Well, it's not just the schools, but that's part of it. They were indoctrinated to believe they were special snowflakes who deserved to feel self-esteem AND ALSO that believing everything that's the opposite of what Nazis believed is an absolute moral necessity.

Their insufferable pride comes in no small part from believing what they were told, so their lies are a superstitious defense of their own moral superiority. Believing that those crime statistics actually had real-world implications would mean apostatizing from the religion of "We saved the world from the evil Nazis," and they actually think speaking against it is a reassertion of their own supreme goodness as the opposite of a Nazi.

Which is not just the schools; they also learned it from the broader post-war self-worship in the culture at large. The media, family members of theirs who were in the war, etc.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 10:42 AM  

"Hard to be entitled when there's no inheritance left."

The old money trough went dry in '65. Isn't that exactly what the Boomers did?

How do you think the average Millennial* would really cope with the 50s?

*Not you. You're special.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 12, 2017 10:47 AM  

There's enough evidence in this comment thread alone to confirm some things.

Vox puts up a Boomer thread and within the first five comments there's a Boomer apologist spewing the same crap they always spew. There are Boomer exceptions but that is exactly what they are, exceptions. And we love them for it, no sarcasm.

Then a few commenters decide to throw GenX under the bus accusing them of terminal cynicism and general slackness. But oddly enough we never see any GenX apologists. If you read something from GenX themselves it is most times full of repentance.

Funny how that works.

Another observation, just in this comment thread, geography and culture matter. The worst moral turpitude is concentrated in the 'culturally enriched' urban coastal regions. The exceptions to that crooked rule usually grew up in 'culturally deprived' fly-over-country.

Blogger Aeoli Pera June 12, 2017 10:47 AM  

Just take a hint, those of you who still can. I don't care that NABALT. You have to go in the ground, period. So do most of my generation. So what? I well and truly don't give a shit anymore who deserves what.

I sound like a crazy person now, but wait ten years and I'll be the moderate who doesn't think torture is a necessary part of the process.

Blogger bosscauser June 12, 2017 10:48 AM  

Whine snivel snivel...
Get a grip...
We used to tell everyone never trust anyone over thirty..

Nothing new under the sun as every generation gazes at their navel insisting they're special!

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 10:48 AM  

"They were indoctrinated to believe . . ."

In some part by psychologists who were actual - Nazis. The rocket scientists weren't the only ones we scooped up.

The ironies continue to eat their own tails.

Blogger Vikki Wilson June 12, 2017 10:49 AM  

Eric the Red wrote:The attempt at categorization of generations, along with the absurd appelations, is a complete and utter waste of time. It seems to fulfill some kind of intellectual penchant for tidy little boxes about generational outlooks, but in reality it advances no viable agenda and gets in the way of solving real god damn problems.

The whole nonsense should be dropped immediately by anyone with at least a room-temperature IQ.


ERic, think about this: the little boxes are categories, (hopefully) descriptive generalisations, pattern recognition.

We can't THINK without them. Western civilisation would be impossible without them.

How about advancing a more accurate theory of contemporary generations and politics?

Anonymous Magus June 12, 2017 10:51 AM  

@128 - Ron: "The thing younger people, who grew up after the advent of the Internet don't understand is just how different the media environment was before that happened. Imagine the MSM even more leftist than it is right now, with no other competing voice. Just about every person of importance believed that communism was the wave of the future. Ronald Reagan, who was basically a leftist who was mugged by reality while serving as the president of SAG, was caricutured as a buffoon for merely preferring his own country to others."

This is where I have some sympathy. I grew up with the immense privilege of a computer in my bedroom. Got online at 11 and never logged off. I was already a Tory somewhere in my bones from a young age, and reading Ayn Rand woke me up, which then lead me to other free market / libertarian texts, and on and on from there.

But... had the internet not existed, would I be like I am now? Would the Alt Right even exist as a movement? I was taken in by a lot of the sweet lies of feminism and multiculturalism. I didn't believe it should be applied on a legal level but, culturally, I thought it was fine. And I was fine with open borders - I just didn't see what the issue was. I accepted a lot of the things boomers, Xers and my own generation accept as normal and moral things. It was exposure to Stefan, Vox, GamerGate, The_Donald and various stuff on twitter (as well as being able to chat to friends around the world on message boards and WhatsApp) that really dropped the Red Pill on me.

I simply can't quite imagine growing up in a pre-internet world. It sounds just like 1984 to be honest, where you'd feel insane and stupid if you didn't go along with the narrative being echoed around you since, after all, anyone with even a small media platform is parroting it.

That's why I have ambivalence towards my father. I get angry that he can't see why his precepts are so wrong, but at the same... he's just so brainwashed, and a product of everything fed to him in his education and from 60+ years of media exposure.

Blogger Phelps June 12, 2017 10:51 AM  

Reuben wrote:Which do you choose: work at Starbucks for $10/hr, or go 100k in debt to start making 35-40k a year?

Neither. Start working as a plumber's helper for $14/hr, make journeyman in 4-5 years, and have your own plumbing company in 10.

Or, spend a couple of years in welding school, and make good money in the oil patch.

There are lots of damned good jobs just waiting on millennials if you get out of this "College or Food Service" mentality.

Anonymous Hermione June 12, 2017 10:52 AM  

I may be in an odd position, but I am a millennial with boomer parents. My grandparents were born in the 30s.

I adored my grandparents.

But I can't stand boomers in general. They are arrogant and completely self-absorbed. Everyone likes to talk about how self-absorbed millennials are, and it's true - but we still don't hold a candle to how the boomers think the world completely revolves around them. They refuse to acknowledge that the world is different, and many of the policies they support are crushing their children and grandchildren. They don't care as long as they get their own.

My dad isn't too bad as far as boomers go, but it is still there. Divorced my mother, and when he received a large inheritance from my grandfather, what did he do? Go and by a huge McMansion to live in with his new wife and stepkids, both of which were almost grown...so he effectively bought a 400k+ house for two people.

My mother has turned into the quintessential medicated divorced boomer. A hoarder, on a cocktail of medications, and expects everyone else to provide for her because "she's a nice person". She's a huge Bernie fan. Everything in her life is about her. Even if she seems to do something for you, it's actually about her.

They are not as bad a some, but my children's grandparents are not as involved as mine were. It's pulling teeth to get them to allow the kids to stay overnight. We've finally got them to the point where they will show up to special events reliably, and see the kids regularly (both sets of grandparents live in town) but it's taken some work.

Anonymous Steve Canyon June 12, 2017 10:52 AM  

Don't hate or despise Boomers. Just find them disappointingly dull. And they're rather homogenous in their dullness.

Blogger Phelps June 12, 2017 10:52 AM  

The divider my wife and I use for generations is the Beatles:

BB: OMG THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!
GenX: Fuck the Beatles.
Millennials: Were they those guys who had that show where they went "hey hey we're the beatles"?

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 10:52 AM  

You're overthinking it, kfg.

Entitlement, recieving something from inheritance, is hard to do when the inheritance no longer exists.

Hence it makes less sense to call the proceeding generations entitled, as the overall inheritance is getting evaporated. There's still some inheritance getting passed down via trust fund, and hoo boy do those trust fund kids fit the definition of "entitled".

Blogger kurt9 June 12, 2017 10:52 AM  

Although I am not a Millennial, the ZMan post actually gives me hope for the future. I live in somewhat of a bubble, and have little interaction outside my social circle. I see all of the left-wing crap going on at the universities on the internet and often wonder about the Millennials. The Zman post makes clear that many (most??) Millennials do not identify with the left-wing politics on college campuses. This does give one a certain measure of hope.

Blogger DJ | AMDG June 12, 2017 10:59 AM  

That phone call with mom....I've had almost the exact call. Rips me up inside. My brothers are dying by suicide and the slower death of self destructive behaviors every year, and the community just shakes its collective head, shrugs, and goes back to their own self anesthetizing ignorance breeding. Nobody who really wants the answer asks why? Nobody wants to face the reality that the current zeitgeist actively seeks to kill us. Kill us.

I'm GenX and you're damn right I'm angry.

Anonymous DaveInjustice June 12, 2017 10:59 AM  

Another of my favorite Boomer Tendencies is their ability to selectively forget whatever fact is convenient, in true SJW fashion. Sure they bombarded the next generations with years of stories of their misspent youth, getting in trouble, making mistakes, having fun, wasting money and ultimately stumbling into financial security. But that doesn't stop them from attacking the next generation(s) for being "juvenile and immature". Sure whatever trend young people are into is the worst/dumbest thing ever, say the people who spent their youth eating random drugs an massive outdoor orgies they called concerts...

Blogger Dirk Manly June 12, 2017 11:00 AM  

Eric the Red
Read "The Fourth Turning" from over to cover before you start trying to argue that Flappers and Millenials have essentially the same outlook on society, economics and politics.

Anonymous Leonidas June 12, 2017 11:01 AM  

Now, the enemy du jour is the boomers.

The Boomers have been an enemy since we were born. But nice try at evading the inescapable.


Sorry to correct our esteemed host, but given that they aborted 1/3 of us, they've been our enemy since before we were born.

It takes two to tango, but it only takes one to war. As near as I can tell, the Boomers are the only generation in history to simultaneously wage intergenerational war against both their parents and their children. And for most of their lives, they've been winning it.

But on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. Their time is ending. Soon only the cleanup will remain.

The cleanup of one hell of a mess.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams June 12, 2017 11:01 AM  

"Boomers turn X0!" Was a headline periodically in the 80s and 90s. The writer was always shocked that time goes forward, but hey, don't worry boomers are still the coolest ever.

Finally the Xer headlines began to appear, "GenX Grows Up". When written by boomers,these articles snidely told Xers to grow up while spending more words insisting that boomers were way more youthful and the coolest, way more accomplished,way more everything.

The Xer written articles copted to the generation's faults, yet pointed out the real world vs. The bs Xers were fed as kids.

Have the Millennial articles appeared yet, and what do they say?

Blogger Guitar Man June 12, 2017 11:02 AM  

My brother is a great man. He is hard working, smart, decent, kind. He has never done drugs, does not drink to excess, does not smoke. Brings home a six-figure salary. But because he isn't exciting or has tats, because he's quiet and not flashy, no girls for him. He's 40 and hasn't been married, although it's his deepest wish to be married and have children. I have seen the light in his eyes die.

In any other age, a nice dependable delta like him would have no problem getting a good wife in his 20s. I will gladly burn this society down on his behalf.


Even today, I know of plenty of men who fit that description and are happily married. He's probably not delta.

Blogger haus frau June 12, 2017 11:04 AM  

I love my boomer parents. They are highly flawed but have always been supportive and loving to the best of their ability more so than the boomer parents of my friends. I suppose that makes them my snowflakes. That said, I found this very short exchange with my 70 something dad to be quite amusing. He is an observant Catholic and somehow we got on the topic of the Catholic church accepting young men into the priesthood who had known homosexual tendencies. I stated that this was a horrendous mistake and that men who had such extreme personal vices should never have been allowed in the priesthood and given authority over the Christian flock. My dad looked at me with an expression that made clear he thought I was spouting off some insanely ridiculous bigoted comment. Well, of course homosexual men who are celibate should be allowed in. They aren't sinning right? He figures it's just another flavor of sin like sleeping around in high school and as long as the priest pinky swears not to act on his urges he's no different than any other priest and we should support him in his struggle against sin. It's like the Catholic priest pedophilia scandal never happened. If this subject were ever to come up again I'd love to bring up the very clear New Testament instructions about what kind of man can become a church elder. It took me a long time as a young adult to shake off this toxic variety of churchian non-judgementalism. Non-judgementalism in a parent really translates into a lack of guidance.

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 11:04 AM  

@155. Phelps
Neither. Start working as a plumber's helper for $14/hr, make journeyman in 4-5 years, and have your own plumbing company in 10.

True story, I tried looking into HVAC. Found out that apparently you need to go to increasingly-expensive school for a couple of years for that too. Didn't use to be that way.

What type of career path did you go with, Phelps?

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 11:08 AM  

@165. Heian-kyo Dreams
Have the Millennial articles appeared yet, and what do they say?

They're angry. Either angry feminists trying to punch nazis, or angry citizens feeling like they've been frauded by promises growing up, or angry people wanting to punch the feminists trying to punch them first.

Blogger Tom Kratman June 12, 2017 11:08 AM  

Boomers are, by and large, animate turds, the "worst generation" sewerage of the supposed "greatest generation." Some of us are better than that. If you're glad you're not speaking Russian nor living in a complete socialist workers paradise, remember that the cold war was fought, where fought, and the line held by boomers who rejected the ethos of their generation.

Yes, I know; that's a toughie for largely historically illiterate post-boomers.

But what fascinates me in these younger generations (I pay little attention to the nomenclature), is their conceit that they, collectively, could possibly be anything better than turds, with a few, rare, and individual exceptions. Trust me, Bubbas, the boomers and the never-sufficiently-to-be-damned subset of them, the 68ers, contaminated you thoroughly. As a cohort or two you have been as comprehensively wrecked as the Palestinians.

One would like to think that redemption from the moral and intellectual sewer most post-boomers were brought up in is still possible. And perhaps it is, but I think it unlikely.

Blogger Tom Kratman June 12, 2017 11:09 AM  

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Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 11:10 AM  

"How about advancing a more accurate theory of contemporary generations and politics?"

I would suggest that that's a category error. I have only so many bullets, so I tend to identify targets with some care.

When my mission is to keep the damned rabbits out of the cabbage patch, I don't give a damn how old they are.

I do have some mind to interrupt the breeding cycle, so I want to know how that works, but the old ones aren't directly involved with that any more.

And a certain amount* of this discussion is simply observing traits of the young vs. traits of the old and ascribing them to the generations that happen to be there at the moment anyway.

*No, not all.

Blogger GracieLou June 12, 2017 11:10 AM  

I thought Boomer resentment was a Gen-X thing. It's not. This last week even a bunch of left-leaning mills were bitching on the Facebook about "obnoxious entitled Boomer old people" making their lives miserable.

I recently saw a Millenial friend of mine. She'd lost a lot of weight, maybe 50lbs. She confided, "Thank God I had the 50lbs to lose." Since her husband lost his job last year they'd been reduced to eating one or two meals a day so they could feed their child, even with both working full-time and food stamp assistance. They were stuck in a high cost of living area with over-inflated Boomer bubble housing. She'd developed even more burning rage towards Boomers after working in an office answering calls from rich ones demanding, "Muh Groupon! Muh senior discount!" and playing stupid with technology to make her do extra work. It's hard to laugh that off when you're hangry from eating bologna and Aldi bread.

She said those Boomer memes are so true. Ones that say, "Worked a summer job to pay for college. Paid for the whole year." "Saved up to buy his first car. It was a Corvette." "Told them to take this job and shove it. Walked across the street. Got another job."

I said yeah, they told us Gen-Xers that we were lucky because by the time we came around there'd be a worker shortage and housing would be cheap. But they even screwed us out of that, importing the 3rd world to work for nothing and move their 60 relatives into one McMansion to subsidize the Boomer housing bubble.

Anonymous patrick kelly June 12, 2017 11:15 AM  

Don't like this particular tune but the temptation to dance is strong.

Sometimes I wonder if Vox is working ona Phd. in Sociology and this blog is thesis material.

Anonymous Magus June 12, 2017 11:16 AM  

@160 Student

Is it really that hard? A quick google tells me it's not that much, it just depends on where you go, whether you're on-campus, etc:

http://www.hvwtech.com/blog/how-much-does-hvac-school-cost/

My brother went the University route, got some generic degree in Politics, got an office job, hated it. Was always good with his hands, so retrained as handyman a few years ago. He got his basic Health and Safety certs so he could apprentice with professionals, and learned some skills (he was already very good building stuff with his hands anyway, tho). Started off doing basic plumbing, carpentry and sparkie stuff. Is leaning towards doing sustainable/eco build stuff as his speciality, and taking training in it part-time while he works. Is making a tidy income off it.

If you really want to go into the trades, it really shouldn't be that hard for you, I don't think.

Blogger Azimus June 12, 2017 11:19 AM  

173. GracieLou June 12, 2017 11:10 AM
Since her husband lost his job last year they'd been reduced to eating one or two meals a day so they could feed their child, even with both working full-time and food stamp assistance. They were stuck in a high cost of living area with over-inflated Boomer bubble housing.


Why were they stuck if he lost his job? There are charities almost literally everywhere that hand out food, over and above gov support. They might want to talk to your friend about Jesus a little bit - but yeah it's probably better to starve with your dignity than be enslaved by the hateful Christians. Not knowing any details, but something doesn't smell quite right about this story.

Blogger Lance E June 12, 2017 11:22 AM  

Older millennial here. My parents are actually pre-Boomer and were as horrified at adult Boomer culture (exemplified by siblings) as I was.

I'll never forgive the Boomers for weaponizing the concept of self-esteem. That, in my opinion, was the catalyst for the metastasization of identity liberalism into full-blown SJW crybully narcissism. Millennials - especially younger millennials - are the product, not the supplier.

Blogger S1AL June 12, 2017 11:28 AM  


"There are lots of damned good jobs just waiting on millennials if you get out of this "College or Food Service" mentality."

Yup. The problem is that you're never going to be told about jobs that aren't in an office. If you do go to college, STEM is the only real option if you want reasonable rate of return, consistent employment opportunities, and a usable degree in under 7 years.

Trades are high dollar, and sales positions have a lot of opportunities that reward a work ethic and self-motivation. I had no idea that the job I'm in existed until a friend told me about it (I do sales and delivery for a food company), I don't have a college degree, and I'm looking at six figures with good benefits in a couple years. As it stands I'm in the top 1-5% of income earners in my age bracket.

What it comes down to is finding a job where you can be your own boss, or where you're making your employer money, rather than being a grunt.

Anonymous Moomber June 12, 2017 11:28 AM  

Meanwhile the sociopaths at the top of the power structure, who want you *all* dead, laugh at the little white people and their generational squabbles. Good job, folks. You might even make it too easy for them.

As for little Millennial twerps, I have the same reaction I do as an alt-righter to the ProgLeft. I don't care if the Left thinks I'm racist because nothing I do will change that. Nothing I do or say or the fact I do not fit your precious stereotype will stop your hate for me because you have the reasoning skills of a farm animal, so I don't care. If you don;t want me around fighting the good fight, fine. Lots of more profitable and less frustrating things I can do with my time. Good luck.

Yeah, yeah, I'll be dead soon. So will you, eventually, pipe dreams of the Singularity where you'll upload your mind to a superdeity god machine aside. 640K should be enough storage for that wonder.

Blogger cassius dio June 12, 2017 11:29 AM  

How many Gen X and millenials did not even get a chance, were aborted outright or through abortifacients, because the almighty orgasm must be honoured and is the only thing that matters for a "happy life".
Our ancestors, who were good and faithful servants of our Lord, are probably disgusted.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 11:33 AM  

"I'll never forgive the Boomers for weaponizing the concept of self-esteem."

That's one of the things that they didn't do. It can look like it if your first encounter was from a Boomer school teacher, but that school teacher got trained in that at a teacher's college that had already been weaponized.

Self-esteem conditioning started in the primary schools as early as 1960. It was a project of the Carnegie and Rockefeller Foundations, and thus the product of the movers and shakers in those foundations. Mostly people born before WWI.

Blogger Unknown June 12, 2017 11:33 AM  

I'm a millennial, born near the middle of the generation. I generally don't think the millenials are any better than the boomers, they are just born during the decline rather than the boom. It strikes me that most of the qualities so excoriated in boomers are amplified in my generation. The decisions made in the boomers lifetime are directly responsible for the decline, but I'm dubious that millenials would have behaved any better in their place. So yes I guess I blame the boomers, but I don't really take solace in the righteous indignation displayed by many millenials.

Blogger Brian Niemeier June 12, 2017 11:33 AM  

The youth-obsessed harbor a visceral, abiding hatred for those who have what they've lost.

Pay attention to actions; not words. Follow the money.

OpenID paworldandtimes June 12, 2017 11:35 AM  

The more predictably the Boomers snowflake, the more I despise them.

How difficult is it to say "Forgive me, I fucked up. I could have done better."

That's my own attitude toward my own GenX generation (I'm slightly younger than VD) as well as toward my own life.

Boomers are like the thief on the cross who doesn't repent.

PA

Anonymous BluePony June 12, 2017 11:36 AM  

"Sometimes I wonder if Vox is working ona Phd. in Sociology and this blog is thesis material."

I'm going with Russians hacked his blog to sow dissent.

Could be the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball organization in collusion with the Teletubbies, but I'd have to check with Senator McCain's people on that one.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 11:37 AM  

Addendum:

You'll find self-esteem training as a featured part of Brave New World, published in 1932. This shit was in the planning stage generations before they were able to actually roll it out.

Blogger cassius dio June 12, 2017 11:37 AM  

"I'll never forgive the Boomers for weaponizing the concept of self-esteem."

Very insightful, I had not heard that before. This will get so much worse before it gets better.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams June 12, 2017 11:37 AM  

@Student in Blue

Sounds like Millenials are even more screwed than Xers. Xers present a semi united front at least. The alt right Milles will get it on all sides.

Wish I had better advice for y'all other than "don't go to college unless someone else will pay for it (scholarships, grants)" and "survive."

Anonymous BBGKB June 12, 2017 11:37 AM  

I don't blame boomers I blame those who have been trying to profit from devaluing the dollar and importing the 3rd world nonstop since 1913

Your generation inherited a Golden Age and then spent forty years pissing it away!

Even worse they traded the infrastructure of civilization for fake gold star smartie badges.

The GI generation was the one largely responsible for covering up the deliberate, cowardly sneak attack on USS Liberty

John McCain's father is credited with largely responsible for the cover up.

Well, of course homosexual men who are celibate should be allowed in

Do you really want to have priests that ugly?

Blogger Koanic June 12, 2017 11:38 AM  

Boomer Cold Warriors wouldn't have needed to compromise with domestic Communists in order to maintain a global imperial military presence to stop the Mongol hordes of international Communism if their fathers hadn't allied with it and made it strong.

As a result, the Cold Warriors saved Europe for sodomy and atheism, and lost America without the Communists needing to launch an impossible transcontinental amphibious operation.

Better to have lost Europe and kept America. The Euro commies wanted to embrace death anyway; let them get a taste of it.

Then we might have three continents of white Christian nations instead of only one.

Blogger Phelps June 12, 2017 11:39 AM  

Student in Blue wrote:What type of career path did you go with, Phelps?

Litigation consulting. I knew what button to push in the 90s, now I'm the guy who knows why to push the button. If I wasn't married, I would start over in the trades -- and since my industry is slowly dying, I might end up doing it later rather than sooner.

Blogger cheddarman June 12, 2017 11:39 AM  

I was born in 1963 and i fucking hate boomers!!!!!

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 11:40 AM  

@175. Magus
Is it really that hard? A quick google tells me it's not that much, it just depends on where you go, whether you're on-campus, etc:

I wasn't trying to say that it was currently a bad career choice, rather that it appeared to me that it might start getting buried under "necessary" costly certification and degrees.

Also your brother managed to fit in more uni with his student loans? I'm a bit surprised, but good on him. I certainly didn't want to make that plunge - I'm trying to at least wipe out this student loan debt before trying to take on anything else.

Blogger cassius dio June 12, 2017 11:42 AM  

Look up the "sixth generation" a talk by Fr Ripperger.

He claims the last generation to willingly accept suffering with grace were the parents of the generation that fought in WW1.

But, the issue is that the sixth generation is so corrupted, there will be no seventh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dWrv_jM64

Anonymous Mort June 12, 2017 11:42 AM  

"How difficult is it to say "Forgive me, I fucked up. I could have done better."

Show me exactly where I fucked up, and maybe I would. I didn't vote for any of the nonsense, and I'm not going to take the blame for the action of other just because they were born around the same time as me. You can stuff that BS as far as it'll go. You're all complaining about being stereotypes as Millennials, but then you blast right into hypocrisy orbit.

What could I have done better? My vote was consistently nullified by the mass of 80% stupids that *every* generation has. Armed insurrection? What?

No one owes you boo. You want a better world, go build it.

Anonymous kfg June 12, 2017 11:48 AM  

" . . . if their fathers hadn't allied with it and made it strong."

The Soviet Union was funded and studied as a test lab. The basic theory of what the global collectivists wanted to do globally was understood, but they needed to do a practicum to work out the pragmatic details.

They had to be allowed to go on with it until they had produced enough experimental data.

Blogger maniacprovost June 12, 2017 11:49 AM  

Or, spend a couple of years in welding school, and make good money in the oil patch.

Hahaha, no. The last 3 years have not been good for the oil field.

There are lots of damned good jobs just waiting on millennials if you get out of this "College or Food Service" mentality.

Possibly true, but there are more illegals than jobs. Take welding. There are welding jobs out there. Maybe thousands of them. But there are millions who need work.


I have noticed that Gen Xers seem to be better at business than Boomers. I don't see this talked about. I don't have much evidence for it. But purely from a strategic standpoint, it seems like Boomers didn't understand that businesses are intended to make a profit by selling value. They just go through the motions.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 12, 2017 11:50 AM  

If you read something from GenX themselves it is most times full of repentance.

By and large I feel like Millennials/GenY are more self aware than Boomers.

Yeah, we're often lazy. Raging at the world. And have a tenancy to expect things out of life.

But at least we get it.

Blogger S1AL June 12, 2017 11:52 AM  

"No one owes you boo. You want a better world, go build it."

And this crap, right here, is how civilization dies. You do, in fact, owe both your parents and your children, and by extension your ancestors and descendants of every generation.

Blogger Student in Blue June 12, 2017 11:54 AM  

@188. Heian-kyo Dreams
Sounds like Millenials are even more screwed than Xers. Xers present a semi united front at least. The alt right Milles will get it on all sides.

I don't know how screwed they/we'll be. There's still the GenX allies and the rare unicorn Boomer, and there's something about having an active and visible enemy that's exceedingly energizing.

Things are very likely going to get worse before they get better, that's for sure. It's just probably going to happen sooner than later.

@191. Phelps

Hindsight is 20/20, after all. I'd blame public schooling and the general mien of disdain for the working trade for why more kids don't just go straight for trade school.

I know when I was in that process myself, I didn't even know trade school existed. It was either college or be one of those lower-class dropouts working at McDonald's for the rest of your life. I couldn't have been the only one to make that mistake either.

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