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Saturday, June 10, 2017

Must I disavow the Southern Baptists?

I was once a member of a Southern Baptist church. If this resolution passes, I will no longer consider myself a Southern Baptist, as the Southern Baptist Convention has been thoroughly cucked and is now officially an anti-nationalist and anti-American globalist institution.


Which "Christ" is that? Judeo-Christ or Anti-Christ? They're cloaking it with the scare quotes and the modifier "that violates the biblical teachings with respect to race, justice, and ordered liberty", but it is obvious that they are now globalists in service to the Prince of this world like so many of the other formerly Christian denominations.

The Alt-Right is not deceived. To the contrary, the Southern Baptists have embraced the wide and easy way in pursuit of the world's approval. It won't be long before they'll be featuring female pastors performing same-sex marriages before empty pews. Convergence always ends the same way.

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184 Comments:

Anonymous DaveInjustice June 10, 2017 1:57 AM  

SOUTHERN Baptists meeting in the Southwest? Interesting choice.. perhaps some of the worldly churchian elders have a think of Mexican crank and Mexican Boys.. would certainly explain their current non judgmental streak

Blogger wreckage June 10, 2017 1:59 AM  

So, they reject Palestinian, Israeli; American Indian and any other form of native title, rights, identity or nationality; Tibetan, Hong Kong, or Taiwanese independence; or desire for national recognition.

Well then, I think you are morally obliged to reject such narrow-minded people.

I am sure, as an American Indian, that you feel deeply their rejection of the rights and aspirations of your people.

I will pray for them. This hatred is only hurting themselves.

Blogger CymantheTrueMan June 10, 2017 1:59 AM  

This blog is pretty legit. I haven't read (from the author) something even remotely racist here.

Blogger Unknown June 10, 2017 1:59 AM  

Indeed. These people are frauds and cowards. Jehovah is casting them out for He has rejected them for many are called but few are chosen.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 10, 2017 2:05 AM  

It appears to have been proposed by a black racial grievance monger whose previous work included getting the ban lifted on missionaries who speak in tongues. I assume they will cave but will reserve judgment until I see whether the resolution passes or if these are just the rantings of a fringe SJW.

Blogger Eric Slate June 10, 2017 2:12 AM  

More people buying leftist lies hook, line, and sinker. Maybe they could see what damage they are doing to their communities if they stopped sucking up to their new God, Derrida.

Blogger The Kurgan June 10, 2017 2:19 AM  

The only churches that I know that actively speak clearly on the subject of immigration, nationalism and Islam belong to the same denomination I got baptised in: Sede Privationist Catholics. Aka Catholics that actually follow Catholic canon law.

I do believe we are really in the end times. Whether these last months or millennia I have no idea (nor does anyone else) but there sure are a lot of indicators to it. The fact only a tiny remnant of the church remains is probably the clearest indication of it.
Oh, and the probable herald of the antichrist, Bergoglio. On whom, by the way, they also clearly state he is an impostor. The Sede is not vacant is in fact their thesis. It is materially filled with an impostor.

Blogger Freddy June 10, 2017 2:24 AM  

Most mainline denominations converged. Make smaller accountable in line with a Prebyterian gov't. By what gov't should the Church be ruled?

Anonymous Looking Glass June 10, 2017 2:24 AM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/Dwight_McKissic

Guy that proposed it. Or at least put it up on that website.

The meeting is the middle of next week, btw.

Anonymous DissidentRight June 10, 2017 2:34 AM  

One of my missions in life is to spread the good news that you can be a Christian WITHOUT being either a traitor or a wife-worshiper.

Shockingly, Christianity is actually improved without either of those heretical adulterants.

Anonymous Job June 10, 2017 2:40 AM  

From the comments:

"Richard Spencer and his ilk are God-haters whose deepest desire is to see the United States do to non-whites what Hitler did to the Jewish people. I ran into one of Spencer’s lieutenants once in an airport and watched him verbally beret and almost get physical with a very old and quiet Arabic man who was doing nothing other than reading a newspaper in the same vicinity as this guy. Before I had a chance to step in and do something an African-American woman stepped in-between them and said “If you touch this man I will make it so that your own mother doesn’t even recognize you”. While I do not condone the threat I was happy to see someone near by stand up for a fellow American, no matter the color of the skin of the person."

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 10, 2017 2:42 AM  

The races of nen are tge work of God at Babel. The effort to te verse that work is inspired by the same spirit that was behind the rebellion at Babel.

What the Bible teaches is that men OF every nation kindred tongue and people (ie race) will be saved.

No mention anywhere of globalists being saved.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 10, 2017 2:42 AM  

The effort to reverse etc ...

Anonymous DissidentRight June 10, 2017 2:43 AM  

By the way I do not get the doom-and-gloom vibe that some of you older guys seem to give off (though what do I know).

I anticipate the 22nd century will be a golden age of Christendom, forged by the sons of the crusaders who drive the Saracens from the West, crush the traitors and xenos, and rebuild all our institutions (from church to state to university) from ground up.

When Fake Academia crumbles under its own weight, as it inevitably will, it will take out neo-Darwinism with it. I don't think any one of us can understand what it will be like to grow up in a world where there is no widely-credited non-theistic explanation for the OOL. But our grandsons or great-grandsons will.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 10, 2017 2:53 AM  

@11 - Even for something that never happened, that's a one damn pathetic story. Cucked by a black woman in his own made-up "anti-racist" fantasy!

Dwight McKissic writes like a semi-literate prison preacher.

Blogger Sam Lively June 10, 2017 2:53 AM  

McKissic is the lefty who is propping up Russell Moore.

Blogger Tyr June 10, 2017 3:05 AM  

In other news, Richard Spencer now has "lieutenants" who verbally "beret" quiet, well-behaved Mussulmen for no apparent reason.

Blogger Tyr June 10, 2017 3:08 AM  

That is really weird. Did he think that a threat of violence would reflect poorly on him? Dude, it's just make believe- live a little!

Anonymous Paul2017 June 10, 2017 3:09 AM  

Now the last resolution. Kingdom of God drawn from every nation but nations/nationalism is bad? God created the nations

Blogger Wanderer June 10, 2017 3:48 AM  

If Christianity was against nationalism then why did no Christian country embrace multiculturalism for the last 2000 years? Why did the embrace of multicultism not occur until after Christianity was largely abandoned?

If Christianity is against nationalism, then why did God Himself create the nations? Why is one of the goals of the anti-christ an establishment of a borderless, cultureless, one-world government with a one-world religion and a one-world currency?

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2017 3:51 AM  

I used to think the Alt-Right was just an assortment of right-minded bloggers and commenters who were unhappy with mainline conservatism, who might have some good insights and ideas, but who were hardly numerous or influential enough to be a direct threat to anyone's power or programs. Sort of a disorganized, organic, right-wing think tank, and who ever feared a think tank?

The the Left, starting with Hillary Clinton during the campaign and continuing with attacks like this, convinced me otherwise, that we could actually matter.

Blogger SteelPalm June 10, 2017 4:03 AM  

@11 Job

That commentator should write fantasy fiction for a living. He is no worse and his stories no less nauseatingly full of Social Justice than those of John Scalzi.

And they're certainly much funnier.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 4:05 AM  

I was once a member of a Southern Baptist church. If this resolution passed, I will no longer consider myself a Southern Baptist, as the Southern Baptist Convention has been thoroughly cucked and is now officially an anti-nationalist and anti-American globalist institution.

Ditto. (I've been a lot of denominations, but that was up there with Catholic for me.)

Cail Corishev wrote:Sort of a disorganized, organic, right-wing think tank, and who ever feared a think tank?

The the Left, starting with Hillary Clinton during the campaign and continuing with attacks like this, convinced me otherwise, that we could actually matter.


You should read Heidegger and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Michael Agger. If we are a think tank, then we are the motorcycle shop of think tanks.

Blogger SirGroggy June 10, 2017 4:05 AM  

The left is dominant and we continue to be pariahs.

I'm tired of losing. The mainstream carries on as if the alt right does not exist.

It seems that things are going to have to get a LOT worse before we really start winning.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2017 4:07 AM  

Just need to point out that one-world and Tower of Babel stuff is Babylonian. Not Sumerian or Akkadian.

I see people interchanging and conflating them all the time.

Blogger Alexandros June 10, 2017 4:17 AM  

I guess this is just further proof that earthly institutions are just as open to corruption as the rest of us, if not more so.

Blogger Chris McCullough June 10, 2017 4:18 AM  

How utterly pathetic that they are so concerned about us subverting government that's run by a bunch of satanists.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 10, 2017 4:18 AM  

@22 SteelPalm - That comment thread has some real comedy gold, like the one about how "racism against whites it will not affect your livelihood, or really anything other than your pride", because "There is way more incidents that the black community is still being wronged than white."

TBF, even on that absurd blog, there's some pushback against this absurdity.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 10, 2017 4:20 AM  

The Southern Baptists are embracing humanist universalism and rejecting Christianity.

[cucking intensifies]

Instead of praying for us, they should pray to learn the truth.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2017 4:22 AM  

If Christianity is against nationalism, then why did God Himself create the nations?

The kind of people who write things like this claim none of that history, nor any of the theology that goes with it. For them, Christianity became acceptable in the 1960s, when people redirected its focus to things like civil rights, religious liberty, and serving your fellow man. Before that, if they think about it at all, Christianity was inquisitions, exclusivity, and badness, and they want nothing to do with any of it.

So if you point out that Christendom used to be founded on nations, they would just point out that it used to preach lots of things they find unacceptable. So what if nations are spoken well of in Scripture; so are lots of things they reject.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2017 4:24 AM  

The left is dominant and we continue to be pariahs.

That's certainly what they want you to think, and the purpose of public statements like this one. But what if it's not true?

Blogger Lucas June 10, 2017 4:27 AM  

Their leaders must be all compromised and with dinosaur skeletons in their closets.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 10, 2017 4:28 AM  

@31 The left's greatest weapon has been in convincing us that we're all alone, and of course we're not.

If Southern Baptists are attacking the Alt Right, then it's because the Southern Baptists are already converged. It's also a confirmation that they see the Alt Right as a growing threat.

Blogger joek June 10, 2017 4:31 AM  

https://faithfullymagazine.com/southern-baptist-resolution-alt-right-white-supremacy/

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 4:42 AM  

SirGroggy wrote:I'm tired of losing. The mainstream carries on as if the alt right does not exist.

Dummy dhimmi, leftists and the mainstream media are BIRM (but I repeat myself). If they knew what you really thought, half of America's residents would destroy your livelihood for a political disagreement. Nurture your resentment into a flowering hatred.

And treasure every time that they freak out over Trump disobeying their will, which is basically every day.

Anonymous JAG June 10, 2017 4:43 AM  

Icicle wrote:Just need to point out that one-world and Tower of Babel stuff is Babylonian. Not Sumerian or Akkadian.

I see people interchanging and conflating them all the time.


There is strong evidence that the origins of the Tower of Babel do, in fact, reside in Sumeria. There was a large ziggurat in Eridu, as well as evidence that strongly suggests Berossus was refering to Eridu when he wrote of "Babylon".

You can do a simple google search for plenty of articles on this topic.

Blogger #7139 June 10, 2017 5:09 AM  

...and is now officially an anti-nationalist and anti-American globalist institution....

They are scared to death of the Alt-Right. This is good.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 10, 2017 5:13 AM  

The comments on the related Facebook page are all pats on the back from blacks (in a denomination that is 85% white). He seems to be trying to carve out his own niche.

Blogger Vikki Wilson June 10, 2017 5:21 AM  

It won't be long before they'll be featuring female pastors performing same-sex marriages before empty pews. Convergence always ends the same way.


Ended with a bang not a whimper in that post!

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable June 10, 2017 5:38 AM  

The left is dominant and we continue to be pariahs.

Sure, the Alt-Right is irrelevant. That's why Hillary Clinton couldn't stop talking about it during her election debacle and why the Southern Baptists are trying to get Alt-Righteousness declared a sin.

Anonymous Icicle June 10, 2017 5:40 AM  

There was a large ziggurat in Eridu

There were large ziggurats in most of the cities.

as well as evidence that strongly suggests Berossus was refering to Eridu when he wrote of "Babylon".

"...was a Hellenistic-era Babylonian writer, a priest of Bel Marduk and astronomer who wrote in the Koine Greek language, and who was active at the beginning of the 3rd century BC."
"What is left of Berossus' writings is useless for the reconstruction of Mesopotamian history."
https://infogalactic.com/info/Berossus

You can do a simple google search for plenty of articles on this topic.

Well stick a fork in that one.

Anonymous HenryB June 10, 2017 5:51 AM  

You thin all the blacks and the whites that happily sit in pews with blacks will be offended by an anti racism statement??? And leave?

You are misreading reality.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 6:17 AM  

HenryB wrote:You thin all the blacks and the whites that happily sit in pews with blacks will be offended by an anti racism statement??? And leave?

You misunderstand. It is a simple observation that when simple observations are deemed racism, then an organization has been "converged" -- taken over by members of the Social Justice cult -- and you cannot serve two masters. If the organization was a Christian church, then it will be increasingly anti-Christ and either wither and die or go full prosperity-gospel retard.

Blogger wreckage June 10, 2017 6:19 AM  

@43, it's not an anti-racism statement.

Anonymous Stochastic Persiflage June 10, 2017 6:28 AM  

Post from last year:

RESOLUTION 12: ON REFUGEE MINISTRY

WHEREAS, The world is facing the largest refugee crisis since World War II, with over sixty million people displaced throughout the world and considered refugees; and

WHEREAS, War, violence, genocide, religious persecution, and other forms of oppression have contributed to massive people movements across the globe, as millions flee for their lives; and
WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have a long record of caring for and ministering to refugees throughout our history; and

WHEREAS, This history of refugee ministry includes the sponsoring of almost 15,000 refugees from 1975–1985, resulting in the starting of 281 ethnic churches and a 1985 resolution commemorating this decade of ministry; and

WHEREAS, There are expected to be 85,000 refugees coming into the United States in 2016 from four continents and the Caribbean; and

WHEREAS, Scripture calls for and expects God’s people to minister to the sojourner (Exodus 22:21–24; Exodus 23:9–12; Leviticus 19:33–34; Deuteronomy 10:17–22; Deuteronomy 24:17–22; Deuteronomy 26:5–13; Psalm 146:8–9; Matthew 25:35–40); now, therefore, be it

RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in St. Louis, Missouri, June 14–15, 2016, encourage Southern Baptists to minister care, compassion, and the Gospel to refugees who come to the United States; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we call on the governing authorities to implement the strictest security measures possible in the refugee screening and selection process, guarding against anyone intent on doing harm; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we affirm that refugees are people loved by God, made in His image, and that Christian love should be extended to them as special objects of God’s mercy in a world that has displaced them from their homelands; and be it finally

RESOLVED, That we encourage Southern Baptist churches and families to welcome and adopt refugees into their churches and homes as a means to demonstrate to the nations that our God longs for every tribe, tongue, and nation to be welcomed at His Throne (Revelation 5:9; Revelation 7:9-12; Psalm 68:5; James 1:27; Leviticus 25:35; Leviticus 19:33-34).

http://sbcvoices.com/why-the-sbc-refugee-resolution-is-important-especially-now/

Blogger Werekoala1066 June 10, 2017 6:30 AM  

Because of Vox and other Redpilled authors I've recently decided it is time to get back into Christianity. They changed my heart. I grew up with my grandparents who were devout Baptists, so I assumed that they (Baptists) were immune to such things...

Now where can I go?

Anonymous Alice De Goon June 10, 2017 6:35 AM  

These slavering cucks want so desperately to be on the winning (ie: the losing) side that they're willing to transform their church into a milquetoast drum circle where half of the priesthood doesn't believe in God, but signed up so they can embroider rainbows on their robes and bask in the starry-eyed admiration of "spiritual, but not religious" leghairs.

As I seem to recall, there was a church awhile back that wanted to ditch all artificial distinctions between people and focus on Social Justice....oh yeah, it was called The People's Temple....

Blogger John rockwell June 10, 2017 6:40 AM  

Southern Baptists and cuckservatives like them are in many ways figureheadship complementarians or "biblical egalitarians" Where husband is chauffer and wife is actual head of family. So since they have cucked on Patriarchy its not long before they cucked on this issue too.

Blogger John rockwell June 10, 2017 6:41 AM  

@WereKoala

How about the PCA. Presbysterian church of America classic reformed? Or OPC?

Anonymous Stochastic Persiflage June 10, 2017 6:42 AM  

Another one! Starting to read like a parody account now.

Against the New England Patriots
February 4, 2017 by Adam Blosser

I have decided that it’s time to take a stand. Below you will find a resolution I will be submitting to the Resolutions Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention for their consideration for our 2017 Annual Meeting in Phoenix, Arizona. Aside from the Pastor’s Conference, voting on this resolution may be the most important thing we do in Phoenix.

WHEREAS, Southern Baptists are a people who hate what is evil and love what is good; and

WHEREAS, Southern Baptists are known for their bold stands against many of the cultural evils of our day such as Disney World, Target, and Starbucks; and

WHEREAS, Bill Belicheat, Tom Brady, and the New England Patriots are a microcosm of all that ails our great nation; and

WHEREAS, spying on other teams in an effort to gain a competitive advantage is rightly understood as cheating; and

WHEREAS, Attempting to gain an advantage by altering the PSI in the game footballs undermines the integrity of the game of football; and

WHEREAS, Cheating is a violation of the eighth and ninth commandments; and

WHEREAS, There are likely many other ways in which Belicheat, Brady, and the Patriots have cheated over the years; be it

RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, June 13-14, 2017, express our strongest possible repudiation of the New England Patriots; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we call on all fans of this God-forsaken team to repent of the unfathomable transgression of rooting for such a team; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we call on all former fans to bear fruit in keeping with repentance by bringing all Patriots merchandise to the altar of their churches this Sunday; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we call on all Southern Baptists churches to hold a special bonfire as soon as possible to properly dispose of all of the forsaken merchandise; and be it finally

RESOLVED, That we commit to help our lost friends, neighbors, and family members who have been blinded by some evil spell put on them by Robert Craft to see the light and begin cheering for another NFL franchise.

http://sbcvoices.com/against-the-new-england-patriots/

Anonymous HenryB June 10, 2017 6:57 AM  

@44

I didn't miss anything. The result will not be, as Vox says, empty pews. Whether converged or not. No one will leave over this. No one. It's just one more indication that the Alt Right in the U.S. Is only useful to anyone as an object of derision that might help others make redundant statements about their long held principles.

Anonymous Simplytimothy June 10, 2017 6:57 AM  

I wonder when their resolution on HBD will be forthcoming

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 10, 2017 7:00 AM  

What exactly are these biblical teachings regarding race that the alt-right violates? The Bible says relatively little regarding race that I've noticed.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 7:00 AM  

Werekoala1066 wrote:Now where can I go?

My solution: find a willing friend and create a Sunday afternoon Beer & Bible Study at a local brewpub. Matthew 18:

12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Anonymous HenryB June 10, 2017 7:01 AM  

@45
Right. It's actually an anti racial bigotry statement. I stand corrected, Mr Pedantic.

Anonymous Causal Lurker June 10, 2017 7:02 AM  

Sound like someone forgot his Baptismal questions: "Do you renounce Satan? And all his works? And all his empty show?"

Silly Baptist, you can't serve two masters. Your dark Master was cast out for rebellion. Why follow such a loser?

Blogger Jamie-R June 10, 2017 7:03 AM  

They always, always, go after the heads of institutions thinking the shepherds will lead the sheep where they want them to go. But we have free will, & the Lord works through the flawed world we inhabit, he's very aware of what they are going to do. It is such a simple but powerful message, forget the affections & respect this world will offer to you, just follow him.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 10, 2017 7:06 AM  

@43 Even on his own Facebook page, which is a limited and favorable audience, this guy has elderly, likely Churchians seeing through this as an attempt to command anti-Trump politics. You overestimate people's ability to be silenced through charges of racism post-2016.

Blogger wreckage June 10, 2017 7:07 AM  

@56, no, it is even less that. It's a bit of political posturing dressed up as a resolution, specifically so that the person proposing it can use it against his opponents.

It does not address racism or bigotry; it merely assigns them to the alt-right then denounces the alt-right.

Blogger wreckage June 10, 2017 7:08 AM  

I find I am often accused of pedantry when I point out lies.

Why do you defend lies?

Blogger Phillip George June 10, 2017 7:10 AM  

separation of church and state. Still killing you.
How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia?? How many will there be in Dearborn in 20 years?

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done.
If a man can rule a home he can run a nation/ the lesser rung on the hierarchy.

Render unto Caesar is about common law property rights. Caesar can and should be a Christian, promoting the eternal laws of God that protect and preserve life.

The Koran does not have "thou shall not lie". It isn't there. Religions are not equal. It doesn't have. "love thy neighbor as thyself" It isn't there.

Chose God and you might get human accolade. Chose man and you will lose both. Return or perish. Time is very very short.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 10, 2017 7:10 AM  

@11 Yup, I'm sure that's exactly what happened at that airport. That sounds exactly like the real world I know. That perfectly describes the behavior of white, Arabic, and black people I routinely interact with.

Anonymous Teapartydoc June 10, 2017 7:12 AM  

Dug through the website. The author of the "resolution" is black, and the rest of his writing is as incoherent. The remaining authors on the site are credentialed cucks from what I see. Good assessment on that church being converged, like so many others.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 7:21 AM  

HenryB wrote:@44

I didn't miss anything. The result will not be, as Vox says, empty pews. Whether converged or not. No one will leave over this. No one.


You continue to miss the part where it's a sure sign that a spiritual rot has set in. No one has said that anyone would directly leave over it, so your denial is weird.

Anonymous HenryB June 10, 2017 7:26 AM  

@SciVo:

"It won't be long before they'll be featuring female pastors performing same-sex marriages before empty pews."

People gonna have to leave to create empty pews.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 10, 2017 7:29 AM  

@43 I would say that depends on how much those whites interact with blacks on a daily basis. The more they actually interact with blacks, the less they will like this toxic virtue-signalling and the more likely they will be to leave.

On the other hand, if their primary knowledge of black people comes from the media, they will happily sign on with this.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 10, 2017 7:36 AM  

The SBC has no problem with "nation of Israel."

http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/2266/on-prayer-and-support-for-israel

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 10, 2017 7:39 AM  

So according to this preacher Judeo-Christ hates white people and wishes to bond them to the glorious people of color, so we are back to slavery.

Yay

Blogger Salt June 10, 2017 7:40 AM  

biblical teachings with respect to... ordered liberty

I don't think that means what they think it means.

Blogger Bellguard June 10, 2017 7:50 AM  

Reject the false Pope and his heresy.

Blogger dienw June 10, 2017 8:04 AM  

Someone above probably already made a similar comment; but reational people understand the Baptists are not refering to Jewry when they denounce nationalism; in fact, I greatly suspect that they only refer to White ntionalism.

That being said, I put forward this meme: "Baptists renounce Zionism!"

Blogger DeploraBard June 10, 2017 8:04 AM  

"No one will leave over this. No one."
Soothsaying is forbidden. Why do you practice sorcery and divination?
Vox is SB and he is leaving so now you are a false prophet as well. Promptly smash your own skull with a stone.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2017 8:13 AM  

Teapartydoc wrote:Good assessment on that church being converged, like so many others.

Depends on what you mean by "church". The SBC is not a church. It is an association of independent churches. The congregations do not report to the SBC. They hire and fire their own pastors. The SBC does not own the property of the local churches.

Blogger Johnny June 10, 2017 8:13 AM  

It is not cognitive dissonance because they are not bothered by it, but the level of internal logical disconnect that comes from the hard left is remarkable. Two quotes from this resolution: "denounces every form of 'nationalism'," and "we reject the retrograde ideologies, zenophobic biases and racial bigotries... that seek to subvert our government."

Think about it. Our gov is government of a nation state. How can they denounce nationalism even as they support US nationalism? Well, those with logical disconnect can do it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 10, 2017 8:18 AM  

So what do isms, ists and phobias have to do with logic and reason?

So the long running scam was this, a bunch of cranks and other evil types made up some psychobabble hurl it at well meaning stooges, stooges take it to heart, feelz bad and then to our utter amazement the evil cranks of psychobabble offer to help the poor stooge over come the bad feelz ists, isms and phobias.

Blogger Koanic June 10, 2017 8:20 AM  

Please assure the Concerned Southern Baptists that I, speaking as the leader of the Alt-Right, wholly reject both concentration camps and socialism as un-Biblical.

So there's no chance of accidentally-on-purpose starving the kikes in the camps like Hitler did, due to socialist food shortage.

There is also no chance of collecting their foreskins like David did, since I'm reliably informed that their boy-dick-sucking rabbis remove those.

Blogger Koanic June 10, 2017 8:21 AM  

*baby-dick-sucking

Blogger ZhukovG June 10, 2017 8:22 AM  

So are there any Southern Baptist leaders who will oppose this? Or is this once great Protestant denomination done for?

Blogger Dirtnapninja June 10, 2017 8:23 AM  

SirGroggy wrote:The left is dominant and we continue to be pariahs.

I'm tired of losing. The mainstream carries on as if the alt right does not exist.

It seems that things are going to have to get a LOT worse before we really start winning.


Begone troll.

We arent losing. If we were losing the Enemy wouldnt resort to measures such as this. If we were losing the Enemy wouldnt have started to escalate to physical attacks. The mainstream ignores us? It cant shut up about us. We are pariahs? Who cares. Once we have shifted the overton window enough, our ideals will be embedded into the cultural fabric.

The fact is, something has changed. Everyone knows it. And for the first time in three generations, the enemy feels fear.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2017 8:25 AM  

"It won't be long before they'll be featuring female pastors performing same-sex marriages before empty pews."

Since each local church hires it's own pastor, doubtful that many female pastors will be hired. Our church just changed it's bylaws to prevent SSM from taking place in the church.

Blogger dienw June 10, 2017 8:35 AM  

RESOLVED, That we encourage Southern Baptist churches and families to welcome and adopt refugees into their churches and homes as a means to demonstrate to the nations that our God longs for every tribe, tongue, and nation to be welcomed at His Throne

Well, after June 13 and 14, the Southern Baptists will not be including White nations, culture, tongue, or civilization as one that God will welcome at His Throne.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2017 8:37 AM  

The SBC position on resolutions:
"A resolution has traditionally been defined as an expression of opinion or concern, as compared to a motion, which calls for action. A resolution is not used to direct an entity of the Southern Baptist Convention to specific action other than to communicate the opinion or concern expressed. Resolutions are passed during the annual Convention meeting."

Any member of a SBC member church can submit a resolution to be considered if they follow these rules:
In order to facilitate thorough consideration and to expedite the Committee’s work, all proposed resolutions shall:
1) Be submitted to the Committee for review and consideration as early as April 15th, but no later than fifteen (15) days prior to the next SBC annual meeting,
2) Be addressed to the Committee on Resolutions in care of the Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention at its registered or e-mail address (electronic copies are preferred),
3) Be typewritten, titled, and dated,
4) Be accompanied by a letter from a church qualified to send a messenger to the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention certifying that the person submitting the resolution is a member in good standing, and
5) Include complete contact information for both the person submitting it, and his or her church.
No person may submit more than three resolutions per year. The Committee on Resolutions shall prepare and submit to each annual meeting of the Convention only such resolutions the Committee recommends for adoption. Such resolutions may be based upon proposals received by the Committee or may originate with the Committee. Only resolutions recommended by the Committee may be considered by the Convention, except the Convention may, by a 2/3 vote, consider any other resolution properly submitted to the Committee.

Anonymous Faceless June 10, 2017 8:39 AM  

@46

It won't be long for female pastors if Debbie Kaufman wants it. She's all over the place on these links you provided, speaking unreconstructed SJWism.

Dissembling on the refugee resolution:

"Rob, Rob, Rob: Alan, who is the author and promoter of this resolution, has said it was not political, period. End of story. No further discussion necessary. It was not political."

Finding extra-biblical things and then trying to have it both ways when the charge is they aren't in the Bible: "I can’t hardly read your comments without cringing they are so wrong. Of course we must stand against this and yes it is Biblical. It’s all over the Bible. From Genesis to Revelation. And even if it were not, it’s just the humane thing to do."

She works hard on the resolution thread to pretend it's not about Trump voters, but she's already judged you as guilty and a sinner if you voted for Trump for the wrong reasons: "The public knows we passed the morals resolution in 98. They write about it every time they opine that Southern Baptists voted for Trump. I however do agree that it should not tarnish those who voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils although it shows the problem of voting for the lesser of two evils. Compromise in areas of our beliefs and what the Bible teaches is the price." (http://sbcvoices.com/the-resolutions-committee-report-for-sbc17/)

"William. My personal opinion is so be it. We may well deserve the headline, but they cannot deny we stood for something we believe in." - She's OK with burning down the SBC.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2017 8:39 AM  

SBC Resolutions in context:

"A resolution is non-binding. It is a snapshot in time of what messengers approved at one Convention meeting.
A resolution is not a statement of Southern Baptist policy. It speaks only for the messengers who were gathered in a particular place at a particular time.
A resolution does not have any effect of allocating resources or directing the work of Southern Baptist or state convention entities, and a resolution certainly cannot govern the ministry or policies of any local church.
A resolution is often mis-portrayed — probably unintentionally — by some news media as a statement on behalf of all Southern Baptists.

Among Southern Baptists, each church is entirely autonomous and self-governing. All denominational ministries – whether on the level of the association, state convention or SBC – exist only to help local congregations fulfill the Great Commission."

https://christianindex.org/open-door-resolutions-sbc-annual-meeting/

Blogger dienw June 10, 2017 8:40 AM  

Now where can I go?

God has told His people to come out of her (Babylon)last we suffer from her plagues God will inflict upon her. You're worship has to become private: at some point home churches and prayer group will have to become the way fro the remnant to worship Jesus Christ.

Blogger Orville June 10, 2017 8:41 AM  

@53 I wonder when their resolution on HBD will be forthcoming

They covered that in the "curse of Ham" resolution in a previous year as noted in the blog article. These Judeo-Christians have twisted the scriptures to their own damnation. The very first reference they cite Acts 17:26 says God determines who is born were and sets borders, and those converged twits totally blow by that bit and want to erase borders and take in countless immigrants. If they and their children were in a lifeboat in the sea, they would gladly load save those from the waters and load up the boat until it sank killing them and their own children.

This really doesn't surprise me. The SBC was rotten in the 70's. At that time I was attending an SBC college whose main religious prof was openly teaching that there was no literal devil.

Blogger dienw June 10, 2017 8:49 AM  

Your not You're
for not fro.

Anonymous Teapartydoc June 10, 2017 8:53 AM  

#74: an association of churches that has a conference to decide on what they agree on is a unitary church regardless how informal the organization otherwise. Otherwise why have a conference?

Blogger StatesRights June 10, 2017 8:54 AM  

If this does not make one crap out that Saturday morning black pill, then what can. Cheers young man! Think this gave me a little motivation to go a little extra on the workout for the old man today. You know, so I can be of use in those coming Crusades. Anyway it's the hope of kids like you that got me behind this movement. Keep that spunk!

Anonymous BBGKB June 10, 2017 8:56 AM  

separation of church and state. Still killing you.

That only applies to churches not mosques http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/06/public-school-opens-up-rooms-for-muslim-prayer-during-ramadan-atheist-group-calls-it-reasonable/

People gonna have to leave to create empty pews. If they want to see gay marriages they can go to MCC

Blogger ZhukovG June 10, 2017 8:57 AM  

@Chris Mallory: The SJW infil(traitors), like Debbie Kaufman, will use these resolutions as a means to pervert their local churches.

It's great your local congregation is 'currently' opposed to SSM, but what about next year... or ten years from now. What mechanism exists to stop another change in the bylaws?

What stops those sweet Sunday School teaching Debbie Kaufman's from gradually teaching your kids to believe lies?

Blogger Flair1239 June 10, 2017 8:58 AM  

Does not sound like they are familiar with Nationalism. They just used a bunch of scare words.

Maybe they will invite the Unitiarian Universalists to their next convention.

Anonymous Teapartydoc June 10, 2017 8:59 AM  

One more thing regarding #74. Prior to the schism in 1054 all of the metropolitan divisions of the Church were independently operating. The Orthodox church still operates under those old rules. Are those independent churches, or are they a denomination? What is the difference between a synod and a conference?

Blogger Cail Corishev June 10, 2017 8:59 AM  

You thin all the blacks and the whites that happily sit in pews with blacks will be offended by an anti racism statement???

No, Tad, we don't thin they'll leave over this one statement you're falsely characterizing as "anti racist." In fact, we thin most of them will be quite righteously pleased, and will probably brag to their black friend about it.

But they will leave. Not specifically because of this, but for the same reason people have been leaving the mainline churches for 50 years: when you turn your focus away from God and toward social justice issues, your church turns into a community center, and then all you have left is nostalgia and inertia. The people who want to worship God (rather than hanging out with Boyfriend Jesus) and be challenged in their faith will drift away looking for something better and end up in one of the independent ghetto churches that the mainliners don't claim. Those who don't care about that will stick around until a different church or secular club looks like more fun or more socially relevant, and then they'll be gone too.

Blogger Gary Eden June 10, 2017 9:08 AM  

Regardless the outcome of this, the SBC was converged by feminism long ago, as has 99% of American "Christianity".

A churches approach to patriarchy really is the great winnowing rod tell of where they are headed. Virtually none have resisted the call of culture to bend the knee to women.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 10, 2017 9:09 AM  

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Blogger M.S. June 10, 2017 9:14 AM  

Come to the Orthodox Church, Vox! You know you want toooo...

Blogger Rob June 10, 2017 9:15 AM  

Looking at the grotesque "Bill Nye the Science Guy" music video that came out a few weeks ago...

"My Sex Junk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m53lNTdyPg

The first Church to promise to actually DO SOMETHING about the Left's degeneracy, and actually follows through, will be awash in supporters, money and recruits, and they take over America.

Anonymous Bob M June 10, 2017 9:17 AM  

@11...
You describe him as a "quiet Arabic man", and then further along in your comment pontificate about standing up for a "fellow American.

So which was he? In your view? Arabian or American?

Can't have it both ways.

Blogger John rockwell June 10, 2017 9:26 AM  

Another good test for orthodoxy is if they buy into the feminist Duluth Model:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/07/21/all-roads-lead-to-duluth/

Where real headship and Lordship of Husband over wife is inherently abusive in its structure.

And if any church buys into complementarianism they buy into egalitarianism with a veneer of headship:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/03/22/complementarian-marriage-egalitarian-marriage-with-a-veneer-of-headship/

Blogger John rockwell June 10, 2017 9:28 AM  

More on complementarianism is cuckservatives buying the feminist narrative on abuse:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/supplicating-to-rebellion/

Cucks gonna cuck.

Anonymous johnc June 10, 2017 9:35 AM  

Things like this are why the Alt-Retard hates Christianity.

It's going to be up to us to reform the Church.

Blogger Unknown June 10, 2017 9:39 AM  

I'm surprised it took you this long. With their Judeo-Christian doctrinal core, their blind support for all things Israeli, and then their strong tendency to dogmatism, it seemed a strange fit for you.

Anonymous andon June 10, 2017 9:41 AM  

3. Blogger CymantheTrueMan June 10, 2017 1:59 AM
This blog is pretty legit. I haven't read (from the author) something even remotely racist here.


whatever you do, dont be a racist

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable June 10, 2017 9:45 AM  

This blog is pretty legit. I haven't read (from the author) something even remotely racist here.

Hard to tell the difference between concern trolling and newbies who've read elsewhere that Vox is racist and decided to check out VP for the lulz anyway.

Blogger JACIII June 10, 2017 9:47 AM  

I'll take "shit that never happened" for 100$, alex.

Blogger Whisker biscuit June 10, 2017 9:50 AM  

Almost, if not all, the mainstream popular Christian thinkers are cucks. William Craig, Douglas Wilson, DA Carson, etc.

Blogger The Kurgan June 10, 2017 9:53 AM  

We do. The ancient Catholic Church is now mostly a huge tent of Churchians and deceived lukewarms, and we know what happens to them.
The Sede Privationists are the remnant.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora June 10, 2017 9:54 AM  

The first half of Micah chapter 4 should suffice as an argument for nationalism from the bible. It describes how the world is divided into nations that live separately and possess self-determination. It even goes so far as to say that while the messiah dwells in Jerusalem the other nations still follow their own gods. The only catch is that war is brought to an end. People come from around the world to visit Christ for his wisdom but they do not dwell permanently in the land. It sounds like a fine set up even though it too apparently is doomed to collapse when the ingrate mongrels of the world attack the camp of the saints but I guess historical cycles are just that strong.

Anonymous instasetting June 10, 2017 10:04 AM  

"great Protestant denomination".....not even sure Baptist is Protestant. Protestants were the daughters of the Corruption of Constantine. Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, etc.. There always were a few who followed the Bible even in the ages of darkness. Baptists and their antecedents.

Now, if the SBC is despite its wars between orthodox and liberals, not hardcore enough for you, you can look up an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church. Joining one of the variants of the Corruption seems a bad idea. Oh, we're not like Rome, we're Greek or Russian, or....eh, whatever. Is Mary a godly woman who needed salvation, or do you worship a woman? Is the Bible the final authority in all matters of faith and practise, or do you elevate the teachings of men, like the Pharisees did, over the teachings of God?

#57 Those are not the Baptist baptismal questions.

#14 Quite right. Darwinism is dying. When it dies, the question of the day will be 1)Velvet Revolution and a mass preference cascade Or 2) Wiping out the IRA hard core terrorists like 'professors of biology'. Will it go quietly, or will it resemble an angry cat being kicked out into the rain?

Victory is at hand.

Anonymous crushlimbraw June 10, 2017 10:05 AM  

In the grand scheme of things, this SBC resolution - even if passed - will amount to a fart in a windstorm. Just as Gamaliel said: "Be cautious in your condemnation of these men, or you will find yourselves fighting God!"
The Alt Right will succeed - as long as we're on God's side - and not insist that He supports us no matter what. The signs of the times are not end time scenarios - just the normal pace of God's expansion of the Kingdom of God. That reminds me - what is the Kingdom of God?
Should start an argument, but I won't participate - been there/done that!
Anyone interested can read further at my archive or website.

Blogger Robert Coble June 10, 2017 10:08 AM  

I went to read the resolution and immediately stumbled over the very first "Whereas", followed by the last "Resolved."

"WHEREAS, Scripture teaches that from one man God made every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation (Acts 17:26)"

If that is not "nationalism" AND created and approved by God, then what the heck is?!?

If God separated mankind into nations and determined their boundaries, then how does this "Resolved" follow:

"RESOLVED, that we earnestly pray, both for those who lead and advocate this movement and those who are thereby deceived, that they may see their error through the light of the Gospel, repent of their perverse nationalism, and come to know the peace and love of Christ through redeemed fellowship in the Kingdom of God, which is established from every nation, tribe, people and tongue."

The incoherence is simply amazing! It sounds much more like "MUH FEELZ!"

I left the SBC church some time ago, never to return; a pox on them.

Anonymous Reenay June 10, 2017 10:10 AM  

For years, even as a Southern Baptist, I've long thought that the home church model is the best we've got. And that was before I was even red-pilled. I recognized that there was some sort of "wrongness" in mainline churches, I just couldn't articulate it.

So looks like I'm going to have to really look into home churches.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 10, 2017 10:12 AM  

The SBC is the enemy. Richard Land, Russell Moore, Albert Mohler...yeah cucks and enemies all.

Blogger Timmy3 June 10, 2017 10:13 AM  

This resolution is horrible and it is not Biblical since it is political. It doesn't belong with the Southern Baptists. They will try to do anything contrary to what the Alt Right might be, which is not possible since a political movement changes. In any case, Nationalism is American and we are American Christians.

Anonymous peter June 10, 2017 10:24 AM  

The catholic church has had its own form of social justice sinces its creation by Christ .. and it does not line up with the beleifs of the alt right. Now you have the Baptist joining in condemning the alt right ... the list grows.. how many billions of christians do you need to hear from before you listen...

Anonymous BadThink655321 June 10, 2017 10:25 AM  

Wanderer wrote:Why is one of the goals of the anti-christ an establishment of a borderless, cultureless, one-world government with a one-world religion and a one-world currency?Because it is the goal of Christ to create a one border world (heaven/hell) with one government (Him) and one religion (Christianity). The antichrist wants to copy Jesus, without Jesus.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 10, 2017 10:28 AM  

Just as in the Reformation, every believer is obliged to choose for themselves if they can, in good conscience, remain in and continue to support an errant church.

It's not like there are any perfect churches available. Every group of humans is prone to error.

I give similar advice to those seeking a church "home" as I give to young men seeking a wife: if you look for perfection you're going to be repeatedly disappointed.

Nonetheless, even though perfection is not on the menu so it is useless to try ordering it, you should have a very clear set of criteria, and these should be in at least TWO categories:

1. What your church home (or wife) simply MUST have.
2. What your church home (or wife) simply MUST NOT have.

You have to know your deal breakers. Which means you have to have thought about them in advance, given sufficient serious consideration to them, asked your closest friends and family for their advice about them, prayed about them, and then made up your mind based on sound biblical principles and any other good guidance you've been given.

If you have no idea what it is you're looking for, you are far more likely to settle for a compromised option because it feels good at the beginning. (DO NOT DO THIS!)

But in either case, keep in mind that you're unlikely to find a single individual who agrees with you in every respect*, and you probably don't want to, so you're even less likely to find a whole group of people who do so.

Know what imperfections you are prepared to tolerate, and know what imperfections you will not suffer under any circumstances. Be prepared in advance, and stick to them.

(*My father used to say, when two men think exactly alike, one of them has stopped thinking.)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 10, 2017 10:29 AM  

Anti-racism is nothing but a code word for anti-white, you intellectuals put too much into it.

Anonymous BadThink655321 June 10, 2017 10:32 AM  

Bobby Farr wrote:He seems to be trying to carve out his own niche.
The hypocrisy of such an approach, of course, is just stunning. Can't we all just get along?

Blogger Chris Mallory June 10, 2017 10:32 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:@Chris Mallory: The SJW infil(traitors), like Debbie Kaufman, will use these resolutions as a means to pervert their local churches.

It's great your local congregation is 'currently' opposed to SSM, but what about next year... or ten years from now. What mechanism exists to stop another change in the bylaws?

What stops those sweet Sunday School teaching Debbie Kaufman's from gradually teaching your kids to believe lies?


They will have to infiltrate quite a few churches. The Yellow Page website lists 378 SB churches in my area. Each one of those is independently governed.

The deacons, pastor and trustees can and will keep tabs on Sunday School teachers.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 10, 2017 10:37 AM  

Wanderer wrote:...

If Christianity is against nationalism, then why did God Himself create the nations? Why is one of the goals of the anti-christ an establishment of a borderless, cultureless, one-world government with a one-world religion and a one-world currency?


I think you answered your question before you asked it.

The Nations are a creation of God. They're explicitly His judgement against a singular global monoculture that rebelled against Him at Babel.

The devil wants to undo this work so he can achieve the same end as at Babel: to "deceive the whole world". He thinks that, if there's only one political system governing the world, and allied to a single religion, it will belong to him by definition, and thus he will ensnare us all.

His premise is correct, his conclusion false.

Just as Nebuchadnezzar's golden idol is the pattern, or type, of the choice he will place before all people (bow down or die), so too the example of the three young believers is a prophecy that God will always have some who have not bowed the knee, as He reminded Elijah.

Blogger Wolfman at Large June 10, 2017 10:40 AM  

Remove the Traitor, Bleed the Cuck, Free the Nations. Vengeance is the Lord's we are but his instruments.
Motto of the Holy Order of St. Brevik.

Anonymous wEz June 10, 2017 10:46 AM  

I've always appreciated the opinions of Rev Albert Mohler, whom I believe is apart of the Southern Baptists. Certainly don't agree with everything he believes, but I found "the briefing" to be a good worldview opinion without all the other bs that usual comes with news op podcasts.

Blogger Robert Coble June 10, 2017 10:56 AM  

@116. peter:

"how many billions of christians do you need to hear from before you listen..."

None, if they are wrong Scripturally (and demonstrably so).

Perhaps you should reconsider using the Argumentum ad populum fallacy to make a point.

Do you also believe in "global warbling" [siic] because of the supposed "scientific consensus"?

Blogger Lovekraft June 10, 2017 11:03 AM  

Dr Charles Stanley is Baptist and his sermons are demanding and consistent.

At first he came across as abrasive and condescending. Until the cobwebs clear away and you are ready to receive solemn counsel.

Blogger Farnswords June 10, 2017 11:19 AM  

@ Cail Corishev

"The left is dominant and we continue to be pariahs.

That's certainly what they want you to think, and the purpose of public statements like this one. But what if it's not true?"

I always scan the comments for yours, Cail. You're on fire on this one. These churches deserve to die and will inevitably do so, but only the shortsighted will confuse this with some kind over-arching failure. The church that comes up from these ashes will be pruned, dedicated, serious, and effective. God is not afraid or unwilling to let an entire generation die off in order to produce the fruit he wants. At the end of the day, nothing is dominant but his will.

Blogger exfarmkid June 10, 2017 11:35 AM  

Hey, you changed the title. Where's this "disavow" crap coming from? The proper word is CONDEMN.

Anonymous johnc June 10, 2017 11:44 AM  

@116 The catholic church has had its own form of social justice sinces its creation by Christ .. and it does not line up with the beleifs of the alt right.

I thought that (real) social justice was a key tenet of many in the alt-right? Isn't that why there are so many NatSocs / anti-capitalists in the movement?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2017 11:59 AM  

johnc wrote:I thought that (real) social justice was a key tenet of many in the alt-right? Isn't that why there are so many NatSocs / anti-capitalists in the movement?
No, justice is the goal. Hyphenated justice is injustice.. There are so many alt-Retards and anti-Capitalists on the alt.Right because 1) we don't care about that stuff until after we have secured our nation and 2) many can be relied upon to shoot Left.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable June 10, 2017 12:18 PM  

Almost, if not all, the mainstream popular Christian thinkers are cucks. William Craig, Douglas Wilson, DA Carson, etc.

Wilson at least seems on his way to coming around. He's much happier with Trump than he thought he'd be.

Blogger spacehabitats June 10, 2017 12:35 PM  

Amen!
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I find it more than a little ironic that the virulently anti-Mormon Southern Baptists have been so thoroughly cucked just as the LDS are withdrawing from the Boy Scouts of America because they have been taken over by SJWs.
Just for fun, read the resolution above and then read the Mormon Apostle's proclamation to the world about the family.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 10, 2017 12:45 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:
So are there any Southern Baptist leaders who will oppose this? Or is this once great Protestant denomination done for?

They're already done for. The fact that they're in on the rapefugee racket is an indicator of this. They have now placed themselves on the target list. They worship Judeo-Christ, who is merely another stand-in for Satan. The die is cast.

Anonymous glosoli June 10, 2017 12:56 PM  

Amusing to read a Catholic's attempt to convert us back to satan's captured version of Christianity. The Romans got in there very quickly to produce cucked Mary Worshippers, all hail the Queen of Heaven. Such nonsense.

Meanwhile, in Scotland, announced yesterday, the Anglicans have caved in on same-sex BS, and now permit #fakemarriage to take place, whilst allowing individual vicars to refuse out of *conscience*.

Any vicar with a conscience would (of course) desert this den of vipers, ideally burning the building to the ground on the way out.

Bide your time brothers, the economic collapse lies ahead, be prepared for victory.

Blogger Elder Son June 10, 2017 1:06 PM  

@14 DissidentRight June 10, 2017 2:43 AM

By the way I do not get the doom-and-gloom vibe that some of you older guys seem to give off (though what do I know).

I anticipate the 22nd century will be a golden age of Christendom, forged by the sons of the crusaders who drive the Saracens from the West, crush the traitors and xenos, and rebuild all our institutions (from church to state to university) from ground up.


So Yahweh's omniscience and revelations given to us through His prophets and apostles have been thwarted by your new and improved revelation.

The Convergence:

https://youtu.be/hNgOIUD2LQk

https://youtu.be/xv0-VSFzxLs

https://youtu.be/t8dBcYBR0pQ

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) June 10, 2017 1:07 PM  

So are there any Southern Baptist leaders who will oppose this? Or is this once great Protestant denomination done for?

Presumably Robert Jeffress

Anonymous Battlefrog June 10, 2017 1:31 PM  

If it only mentioned the alt right and denounced a boogie man like Spencer, I'd chalk it up to ignorance and a knee jerk reaction. But the way it's written makes me suspect actual full blown "I know exactly what I'm doing" SJW infiltration.

Anonymous johnc June 10, 2017 1:35 PM  

@134 The Romans got in there very quickly to produce cucked Mary Worshippers, all hail the Queen of Heaven. Such nonsense.

A contrarian might argue that Mary provides a valuable role model for women and motherhood: docility, humility and obedience.

Anonymous DissidentRight June 10, 2017 1:51 PM  

Elder Son wrote:@14 DissidentRight June 10, 2017 2:43 AM

By the way I do not get the doom-and-gloom vibe that some of you older guys seem to give off (though what do I know).

I anticipate the 22nd century will be a golden age of Christendom, forged by the sons of the crusaders who drive the Saracens from the West, crush the traitors and xenos, and rebuild all our institutions (from church to state to university) from ground up.


So Yahweh's omniscience and revelations given to us through His prophets and apostles have been thwarted by your new and improved revelation.


I have never received any revelations. Anticipation ≠ revelation.

Anonymous glosoli June 10, 2017 2:02 PM  

@138,

The Lord is very clear on this matter, even though Mary is hardly mentioned in the bible, the truth is clearly stated:

'As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” '

Mary, a typically solipsistic woman (me, me, me, me, me) however, shows her womanly nature,:

'And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.'

The bible is a never-ending lesson in life isn't it?

Contrarian cucks might attempt to argue otherwise, but they'd be denying the word of God of course, and clinging to the word of woman.

Blogger ZhukovG June 10, 2017 2:15 PM  

@glosoli: I believe we are discussing the Southern Baptist Convention and its imminent irrelevance. The train however, is fine.

Anonymous DissidentRight June 10, 2017 2:16 PM  

glosoli wrote:@138,
The Lord is very clear on this matter, even though Mary is hardly mentioned in the bible, the truth is clearly stated:

'As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” '

Mary, a typically solipsistic woman (me, me, me, me, me) however, shows her womanly nature,:

'And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.'

The bible is a never-ending lesson in life isn't it?

Contrarian cucks might attempt to argue otherwise, but they'd be denying the word of God of course, and clinging to the word of woman.


Can we maybe cut Mary a little slack:

And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”

[…]

Then Mary said, “Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word.”

Anonymous Causal Lurker June 10, 2017 2:19 PM  

138 johnc, I'd say supportive instead of docile. She was in no way docile when finding her son at the Tempe, or in reminding Him of his mission on earth at the wedding feast in Caanan - start now, young man!

glosoli misses the point. She answered the LORD with an eternal "yes," where Eve answered with an eternal "no." Set the stage for man's redemption. And for making the hard but proper choice, she was rewarded by seeing her only child executed like a criminal, with a sword of sorrow to pierce her heart. The LORD grants some very powerful and painful favors. Preternatural grace or not, don't know if I'd have the fortitude to stand by my choice.

She is venerated for her answer to the LORD, and for remaing true while all appeared lost before her. Pray for her intercession before the LORD, but be very careful of what you ask for.

OpenID nostreculsus June 10, 2017 2:29 PM  

It is interesting to compare the intellectual incoherence of this resolution with the papal encyclical "Mit Brennender Sorge", which recognizes race as a fundamental value of the human community, both necessary and honorable, but condemns the exaltation of racial values to an idolatrous level.

Blogger SJ June 10, 2017 2:35 PM  

Hey cuck have you had a look at churchian attendance rates? Go cuck somewhere else.

Anonymous glosoli June 10, 2017 2:43 PM  

'....or in reminding Him of his mission on earth at the wedding feast in Caanan - start now, young man!'

Only a Catholic could make that inference from the bible.

Anonymous I wrote the Magna Carta June 10, 2017 2:51 PM  

I read some comments at the SPC Voices forum. I could be wrong, but probably most of the comments were from white people. They don't realize that the use of words like "racism" and "white supremacy" is keeping that meme alive and whites always lose playing that game. One poster named, Eric C., tried to push back a little and it was fun reading.

Anonymous roadrage June 10, 2017 2:57 PM  

Me too.
Nuff said.

Blogger Thucydides June 10, 2017 2:59 PM  

"that violates the biblical teachings with respect to race, justice, and ordered liberty"

I've never even seen that written in the Book of Mormon, much less the KJV, so which bible, exactly, are they quoting from?

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 10, 2017 2:59 PM  

Well, that went as expected. It's happening exactly as before.

Well, not exactly.

Blogger Anthony June 10, 2017 3:09 PM  

It's hard enough keeping track of modern middle-easterners, much less ancient ones. Scholarly confusion and disagreement doesn't help. After all, one man's Mede is another man's Persian.

Blogger Elder Son June 10, 2017 3:11 PM  

@139

I have never received any revelations. Anticipation ≠ revelation.

So Yahweh's omniscience and revelations given to us through His prophets and apostles have been thwarted by your new and improved revelation... er, anticipation. Contrary to revelation.

Blogger Anthony June 10, 2017 3:19 PM  

You're right - almost nobody will leave over this one resolution. Or the next one. These are symptoms, not causes. But people will stop coming as regularly as they find their pastors talking more about Man and less about God. The fundraising will dry up, as more and more of the campaigns are for causes the membership sees as inimical. But other than obtaining women or allowing gay marriage in the church, No one resulting out statement will actually cause anyone to leave the church. But they'll leave anyway.

Blogger Elder Son June 10, 2017 3:27 PM  

All this talk about the Catholic Church, Peter, Mary is nonsense. Because no one understands the words spoken to Peter, by Christ, in relation to the biblical spiritual, historical and geographical area at which this occurred, of which later, Christ was transfigured on this very mount.

Reversing Hermon. Look it up.

Anonymous JAMES June 10, 2017 3:34 PM  

"and then everyone clapped"

Sure mate, sure.

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident June 10, 2017 4:05 PM  

FYI, The Anglican Church In America denomination still uses the 1928 Book of Common Prayer. No institutional affiliation with either the Episcopalians or the UK Anglicans.

Still offers "high" and "low" services too. C.S.Lewis would feel right at home.

https://anglicanchurchinamerica.org/index.shtml#diocese

Blogger Tom Kratman June 10, 2017 4:09 PM  

I'd invite you to swim the Tiber but, of late, this has become not much of an option...

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident June 10, 2017 4:15 PM  

Oh, and for disaffected Catholics, in my parish the minister still faces front while blessing the host, and we kneel at the rail to receive it (except for the infirm, who receive it in their seats, or at home, as the case may be.)

Just sayin' ...

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident June 10, 2017 4:19 PM  

If you're talking to me, Mr. K, I think I should rather extend the option to you ...

Wouldn't you like to kneel at an altar rail once (or once more) before you die?

Anonymous Unamused Flyover Resident June 10, 2017 4:21 PM  

And would you not like to hear a homily focused on spiritual, rather than SJW, concerns?

Anonymous DonReynolds June 10, 2017 5:12 PM  

My Dad's side of the family is Southern Baptist and my Mom's side is Presbyterian. I grew up attending both churches but never joined either one.
I almost did, back when I was teaching at a Southern Baptist college in Nashville. I had made up my mind, I was going to join the Southern Baptist Church on that particular Sunday. I was ready to accept the invitation.
On that particular day, the sermon was on the evil of separating church and state. That completely killed off all interest in joining the Southern Baptist Church and soon after that, I left my teaching position for another college.
I never came that close again to joining the Southern Baptist Church and the Southern Baptist Convention has given me dozens of good reasons over the years, never to reconsider it.
No, it is not your father's church any more....and to be fair, neither is the Presbyterian church. (Sorry, granddad/Presbyterian minister.)

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable June 10, 2017 5:28 PM  

Wouldn't you like to kneel at an altar rail once (or once more) before you die?

What is the frickin' appeal of such a thing? I'd love to know.

Blogger Seth Schueler June 10, 2017 6:34 PM  

A darkstream rebuttal seems to be in order.

Blogger Unknown June 10, 2017 6:42 PM  

Been lurking here since I first heard about Vox Day at Pandagon. Longtime SBC and have been reading SBC Voices blog for about as long as I've been reading here. Dwight McKissic out Sharpton's Al Sharpton. He's not really bright but it doesn't matter because he's the "black friend" of people whose only experience with minorities is "mission trips" to "inner cities" or "One time I knew this black guy yada yada" Every. Single. Year. Mckissic throws out some resoultion for the white SBCer's to prove that they are not racist. McKissic's definition of racist is pretty much all white people are racist and mostly to dumb to understand how racist they are. He does this annually and every year the white men at SBC voices grovel. People are slowly starting to realize that the real racist is McKissic and the SBC will never be able to apologize enough to appease him. He and some other cucks in the SBC have now started rhetoric aimed at getting approval for voting Democrat. Traditionally, SBC has been violently opposed to Democrats because of abortion so even in the last election it would be unheard of for anyone to vote D. But McKissic is now pushing the idea that abortion and "racism" are equally evil so it doesn't really matter if you vote D. If you're interested search SBC Voices for the other idiotic stuff Mckissic spouts and watch the sickening groveling by the white men there. People who would speak out against him or not allowed to post - to disagree with McKissick is to be racist and causes banishment. But the guy is filled with hate and doesn't deal well with facts and reality. My two cents for what it's worth to the discussion

Blogger Celia June 10, 2017 6:44 PM  

I didn't mean to post as unknown I thought I put the name Celia in a block. Sorry, I'm not the most techy person.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 10, 2017 7:34 PM  

I read something very interesting in Jeremiah yesterday.
Here it is.

"
Jeremiah chapter 51
...
17 All mankind is stupid, devoid of knowledge;
Every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols,
For his molten images are deceitful,
And there is no breath in them.
18 They are worthless, a work of mockery;
In the time of their punishment they will perish.
19 The portion of Jacob is not like these;
For the Maker of all is He,
And of the tribe of His inheritance;
The Lord of hosts is His name.
20 He says, “You are My war-club, My weapon of war;
And with you I shatter nations,
And with you I destroy kingdoms.
21 “With you I shatter the horse and his rider,
And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider,
22 And with you I shatter man and woman,
And with you I shatter old man and youth,
And with you I shatter young man and virgin,
23 And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock,
And with you I shatter the farmer and his team,
And with you I shatter governors and prefects.
"

Anonymous Clay June 10, 2017 8:01 PM  

Sounds like a "schisim" time is due for the Southern Baptists.

They don't call themselves "Southern" for nothing.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 8:02 PM  

Elder Son wrote:@139

I have never received any revelations. Anticipation ≠ revelation.

So Yahweh's omniscience and revelations given to us through His prophets and apostles have been thwarted by your new and improved revelation... er, anticipation. Contrary to revelation.


He has a point: there is a profound difference between expectation and prophecy. That said:

Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.

Blogger weka June 10, 2017 8:12 PM  

Well, the elite have converged that church. Time to leave: Christians are despised at this time -- see what is happening in the UK as the DUP are causing all the beautiful people to melt down.

It is better to be uncool.

And the alt right are memeing the SBC right now.

https://files.gab.ai/image/593c89e2b5004.png

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable June 10, 2017 8:16 PM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:Wouldn't you like to kneel at an altar rail once (or once more) before you die?

What is the frickin' appeal of such a thing? I'd love to know.


To humble yourself before God, and feel the movement of the Holy Spirit as you accept the transubstantiated substitute of Jesus's physical sacrifice for your sins.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs June 10, 2017 8:20 PM  

What disappoints me about the source article is that it does not enumerate (or even provide specific examples of) the conflicts between Christianity and the Alt-Right. My experience has been that when someone prefers to summarize things over enumerating the issues, it's because they have nothing to enumerate.

Disappointed, but not surprised.

Anonymous Simplytimothy June 10, 2017 8:30 PM  

The Vatican has a wall; tear it down, snake

Anonymous Simplytimothy June 10, 2017 8:45 PM  

Good work. Your last bold quote reconciles Jesus command " “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” for Mary did just that!

Just surmising, we may be seeing the first instance, by Jesus, no less, of the 'venerate, not worship' principle da Catholics espouse, and, if it holds up to scrutiny, I think it is a powerful argument.ent for it.

Anonymous Simplytimothy June 10, 2017 8:54 PM  

Infogalactic

link

Read of the behavior of the Nazis and compare it to the behavior of the neo-cons and SJW's .

We fight the good fight.

Blogger Lazarus June 10, 2017 10:20 PM  

weka wrote:And the alt right are memeing the SBC right now.


Excellent. Let them taste the whole wrath of Kek. Maybe it may dissuade them forever from messing with forces beyond their control.

Blogger Lazarus June 10, 2017 10:25 PM  

The Plague of Frogs was only the second plague, by the way. 8 more to go.....

Blogger Lazarus June 10, 2017 10:47 PM  

Must I disavow the Southern Baptists?

That is as mellifluous as "cellar door", if not a bit moar.
Much better and more pleasant than the original headline.

"will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest" has a similar rhythm.

Most encouraging.

Anonymous Didas Kalos June 10, 2017 10:57 PM  

@112. I think this is also convoluted at best. The Muh Feelz is probably the WHY of it. Where most churches go wrong is that they say things and make judgments with NO scriptural references, and so many times based on experiences not Truth. We feel this, et al.

So it is a contradictory resolution. Most people reading it won't be able to connect these two statements.

Other than that, it's not the end of the world.

Blogger Lazarus June 10, 2017 11:11 PM  

Didas Kalos wrote:Other than that, it's not the end of the world.

You are an Anti-eschatologist, and therefore cannot be taken seriously in matters concerning the end-times.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 11, 2017 1:37 AM  

spacehabitats wrote:As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Historical funny:  I remember a scheme to establish a pseudo-religion to colonize space.

It was to be called "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Of The Holy Starship"

The female members were to be called "Nuns of the Above."

Too bad this never got off the ground.  (Literally.)

Blogger Tom Kratman June 11, 2017 3:23 PM  

@159

No, I wasn't talking to you.

Suggest you work on your research. You know, maybe check some background, look into customs and mores in, oh, say, the Catholic Church in Boston, circa, oh, say, 1956-1974. Oh, and lest I forget, work on your reading comprehension; when one invites someone not a Catholic to swim the Tiber? Yeah, that means that one is waiting on the other side to lend a hand up on the far bank.

Ahem.

I have, by the way, stopped going to Church since we were intoned, a year ago last April, not to be afraid of letting in refugees. There's a copy of the letter I sent to my priest on here somewhere, if you're curious enough to dig for it.

Do I miss it? Yes, but I do not believe God intends that I support a church which is inviting in the means of its own destruction. No, I haven't been able to find one that suits yet.

Blogger Tom Kratman June 11, 2017 3:26 PM  

Or, what the hell, I can post it here for you, again:

A letter to my church:

Dear Father Remi:

I've come close to walking out of mass before, when Deacon Mike was plugging for gun control. I didn't, then, but I resolved that I would walk out if the church again attempted to interfere, even if only by suggestion, with matters of internal politics of the United States or undermining of the Constitution of the United States or undermining of the security of the United States.

This morning, at the early mass, I did walk out after we were intoned to not be afraid of letting in "refugees." I'm not sure what universe the reader lives in. I am not sure what universe the writer of the request for prayers lives in. In the universe I live in, the real universe, those refugees are mostly - no, _overwhelmingly_ - military age males, from a hostile religion, heavily infiltrated by ISIS/DAESH, a slave trading, raping, fanatical, genocidal, and expanding group of that religion. No, the State Department and DHS cannot filter out the maniacs.

Yes, as a matter of fact I do have quite a bit of experience over there.

I will not welcome them. I will not encourage others to welcome them. And I will not support a church that says we should. They are the enemy. They are the enemy of both civilization and Christianity. They are not an enemy to be turned by turning the other cheek. (Indeed, given the sexual proclivities of the region, it is wise to keep all one's cheeks far, far from them.) And those who would let them in are working hand in hand with the enemies of civilization and the Church.

Whether I shall come back to Saint Mary's, find another Catholic Church less politically and suicidally liberal, or join a less effectively anti-Christian Protestant church I cannot say at this time. I am pretty sure that whichever way I decide, God will understand my preferring not to support the ruin of my country, my civilization, or my religion.

Sincerely,

Thomas P. Kratman

Blogger the bandit June 11, 2017 8:52 PM  

Werekoala1066 wrote:
Now where can I go?


Go as a messenger to future SBC Conventions and vote "nay" on these sort of retarded resolutions. Even better: Submit resolutions of your own.

SJWs converge organizations because they've got a better stomach for these sort of bureaucratic devices and wastes of time. But you can play the game by their rules and use it against them, even in the mainline denominations they're trying to fully converge.

To put it in perspective, some more faithful of the churches in the Baptist General Convention of Texas put forth not just a resolution but a motion that affirmation of any sexual relationship other than traditional marriage is grounds for dismissal from the convention. It barely passed, in a contested count. But what's the effect? Fake churches have already left the Convention on their own, and more are expected to do so in the future. Our pastor's takeaway was how important it was to attend these things. Each messenger gets one vote. Our church is granted 23 messengers, and we sent three: me, my pastor, and his wife.

Imagine how the institution would change overnight if every red-blooded Christ-following church in the nation filled their messenger slots and pushed forward a non-cucked agenda. Play the game by their rules, and play it better.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 11, 2017 10:03 PM  

@46 Werekoala1066
Because of Vox and other Redpilled authors I've recently decided it is time to get back into Christianity. They changed my heart. I grew up with my grandparents who were devout Baptists, so I assumed that they (Baptists) were immune to such things...

Now where can I go?
---

Sad but true. I saw the sign for the church I got baptised in and it literally uses the word "multi-cultural" on the sign. I keep driving by.

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