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Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Media Con #2

Philadelphia Magazine is running Media Con #2 on Jack Posobiec: I just want to give you the chance to tell your side of the story.

Here is hoping Jack has the sense to simply tell them no. Or, I expect, we'll soon have a fourth illustration in why you Don't Talk To The Media.

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Anonymous Ballsy June 20, 2017 6:25 PM  

Ah yes, Philly rag, where that great journalist Sabrina Rubin got her start. Pass, Jack. Pass.

Blogger IrishFarmer June 20, 2017 6:27 PM  

Did they drop ethics from journalism schools and replace it with memorizing scripts on how to con targets? It's uncanny how they sound almost exactly the same, every time.

Blogger VD June 20, 2017 6:29 PM  

That's because they use the same lines almost every day with different people.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 20, 2017 6:30 PM  

Those letters I get from Nigerian billionaires are more believable than this.

Blogger J A Baker June 20, 2017 6:32 PM  

Jack gets my spider sense tingling just saying.

Blogger praetorian June 20, 2017 6:33 PM  

Do they know we know?

It seems like they don't know that we know.

Do they know what happens next?

It seems like they don't know what happens next.

Anonymous Eduardo June 20, 2017 6:34 PM  

Damn they will let him write in 4K :-O!

Will it accept triple-headed screen?

For triple the lulz, when Philly Magazine back stab from the front! From the sides! And from the back!

But I find funny, that someone accepts a job which is totally predicated on tricking people. Imagne the type of person who could accept these rules, these orders; and be OK with it. Guess lawyers and jornos have a especial place in Dante's Inferno XD.

Btw... Anyone has any idea how to train pronunciation of TH? O_o it is all ya'lls fault I have discoveres my pronunciation blunder, so after 15 years it is pretty damn hard to blow my tongue in a fast natural manner.... Bloody TH's...

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 20, 2017 6:37 PM  

When, in the history of the media, has it ever been in the media's best interests to tell someone's side of the story?

Who would ever believe this? I used to do PR and the only media we ever did was proactive: i.e. we provided them a palatable Narrative so they didn't have to do any work. If we did something that got them interested based on their own craven volition, well, the earth was flat and it rested on the backs of "no comments" all the way down.

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 20, 2017 6:38 PM  

Cernovich has done a good job of this: even when the Narrative isn't something the Leftists think is good ("sick Hillary"), he bundles up the Narrative in a nice little package for them and they can't resist.

Anonymous Eduardo June 20, 2017 6:39 PM  

@6360

When they are in your side obviously.

Blogger Turd Burglestein June 20, 2017 6:39 PM  

Buzzfeed is a red flag in itself.

Anonymous DaveInjustice June 20, 2017 6:46 PM  

"Those letters I get from Nigerian billionaires are more believable than this."

And the media is deserving of even less respect than the response I give to those. Which is typically "go suck start a shot gun"

Blogger Lazarus June 20, 2017 6:47 PM  

Is somebody going to warn him?

Anonymous Sharpened Knife June 20, 2017 6:48 PM  

Prosbiec...The guy who put a "Rape Melania" sign at a protest. Is it fair to ask about that....? Of course it is. But he and Vox wlll cry when it's written about. Cause by bringing up reality, the media doesn't play fair.

If the Alt Righters don't want to be ridiculed for the ugly stuff they do, then they shouldn't do it.

But here's the funny thing. Guys like Prosbiec are largely doing weird stuff because they want publicity. Then, when they get the publicity, they yell "Awful media!!"

For those of us who understand the Alt Right is largely made up of pseudo intellectuals, degenerates and publicity seekers, I say let Jack speak!!

Blogger DBSFF June 20, 2017 6:49 PM  

Lol, was the Buzzfeed reference supposed to convince Jack?

Blogger Sentient Spud June 20, 2017 6:53 PM  

@2 "This is about YOU, Jack." "Who are YOU? Where do YOU come from?" "YOUR unique and prominent perch..." "Check out what I did for..."

Reads like sales copy.

Anonymous Steve Alexander June 20, 2017 6:57 PM  

@SharpenedKnife So you believe BakedAlaska when it's convenient and suits your narrative, but not at any other time.

He's a reliable source or he isn't. Which is it, Secret King?

Blogger J A Baker June 20, 2017 7:07 PM  

Jack is from Pennsylvania, and he went to school for journalism in Philadelphia, so there's a good chance Jack knows the person wanting to write about him and if he does what are the implications of that? I don't know, like I said Jack gets my spider sense tingling, could be nothing, we are living in some strange times.

Blogger Tom Kratman June 20, 2017 7:13 PM  

Or to tell them, "Sorry, but it's against my rules to consort with the enemy."

Blogger J A Baker June 20, 2017 7:18 PM  

The thing about Cernovich is that he is a very good strategist and he is very manipulative and very good at arguing and debate. I've seen him lay traps for journalists and they fall right into them. He really is someone that can play four dimensional chess. So, try as you might, you can't imitate something like that because what Cernovich does isn't a gimmick or a stunt.

Anonymous FP June 20, 2017 7:23 PM  

Dude, he like totally did a long-ass profile of Modest Mouse or something man. He sounds off the hook legit. Totes not a hit piece man.

"Hey fellow hip cool kids, whats hangin?"

Anonymous Precious June 20, 2017 7:25 PM  

Posobiec...The guy who put a "Rape Melania" sign at a protest.

Nice try dull spoon, that claim was debunked right after it was made.

Anonymous trev006 June 20, 2017 7:30 PM  

He should agree to meet them in his own place.

Then lock the door until they go away. "Whoops, forgot all about it." Meg's obsequious messages to Jones would have gone great if topped off with that.

Honestly, though, the advice of DTTTM is the better one. I just wish all Alt Right figures could do it, no matter how much incentive they have to start.

Blogger VD June 20, 2017 7:37 PM  

The thing about Cernovich is that he is a very good strategist and he is very manipulative and very good at arguing and debate.

He also picks his shots very carefully. He turns down 9 or more requests for every one he grants.

Anonymous Ugly Mind Babies June 20, 2017 7:40 PM  

First I would tell this clown to write a better introductory letter. The one he wrote seems so...skeevy.

Blogger Basil Makedon June 20, 2017 7:56 PM  

Philadelphia Magazine probably has approximately the same circulation of a note passed in a high school study hall.

Even if this person is totally legit, which they are obviously not, what on earth could be the payoff for Jack P.?

Blogger Happy LP9 June 20, 2017 8:00 PM  

It's why Jack, Laura Loomer, etc., need immense support and back up.

Lord help us.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 20, 2017 8:03 PM  


Even if this person is totally legit, which they are obviously not, what on earth could be the payoff for Jack P.?


There isn't an upside. Especially considering Jack's reputation. He's better off ignoring and acting like he didn't get the request.

Anonymous Reenay June 20, 2017 8:04 PM  

If I wanted to tell my story, I'd just post it online on my own website or blog and then nail flyers to telephone poles everywhere with the link. But then, I don't really care for people I don't know knowing things about me.

Why do we need the media, again?

Anonymous Ain June 20, 2017 8:14 PM  

There should be a bingo card of all the lies the media uses to con their targets. Most of them are in that message.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 20, 2017 8:20 PM  

The whole letter is a straightforward appeal to narcissism, and nothing else. Doesn't really even try to make an appeal to his politics, like "getting your message out" or "your side of the story" so much as "You, Jack, you. You, you, you." Seems like something that would work better for TV, but I suppose seeing your name in print has some appeal, too.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 20, 2017 8:22 PM  

Ransom Smith wrote:There isn't an upside. Especially considering Jack's reputation. He's better off ignoring and acting like he didn't get the request.
Since he posted it to Twitter, I think he's well past "ignoring" and well into "mocking"

Blogger Ransom Smith June 20, 2017 8:23 PM  

Since he posted it to Twitter, I think he's well past "ignoring" and well into "mocking"

Wouldn't know. Don't have Twitter. But mocking and not actually responding is acceptable.

Anonymous Rule of Wrist June 20, 2017 8:34 PM  

The Nigerian Scam analogy is a good one.

Similar to that scam, perhaps rather than just ignoring media requests, it would also be beneficial to waste as much as their time as possible.

"I'd like to interview you Mr. Day/Cerno/Narrative Denier for ".

"Sure, but I'm a bit busy these days, how about I contact you again in a week?"

1 week later: "Mr Narrative Denier, I never heard back from you."

"Oh sorry, the interview right, how about we meet at X at 7pm? I'll buy."

Totally blow off the meeting.

"WTF Mr Narrative Denier! I was waiting for you for an hour!"

"Oh, ya, sorry I had something come up. How about lunch at X 1pm?"

Blow that off too.

Rinse and repeat until they give up, heh. Be as wasteful and dismissive of them and their time as possible.
Just an idea on possible tactics :)

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 20, 2017 8:48 PM  

I can't really blame them for lying.

I mean think about it.

"Hi, I'd like to do a hit-piece on you and I would really like your cooperation in making this happen.

Rather than do the whole lull you into a false sense of security thing for four hours and quietly insert my booby traps. Here are my kill-shot questions.

Please answer them succinctly.

Oh and you might want to pull your kids out school now and send them off to Grandmas for a few months.

Looking forward to talking to you.

Thanks! ;)

Anonymous Just another commenter June 20, 2017 9:07 PM  

How about this, Mr. writer: You show up to take a ride with one of the VFM to an undisclosed location. You phone interview Jack. You write your story. You submit it. Said VFM then takes you in the trunk of his car to some other undisclosed location and awaits its publication. If said VFM and the ilk of VP thinks it's honest, fair, and balance, you are returned unharmed to your starting locaiton. If it's a hack-jopb hit piece, then you become a hacked-up hit-job in the more traditional sense of the term.

Deal? Or are you lying? Do you trust your editors?

Blogger LordSomber June 20, 2017 9:14 PM  

Reporters like to come across as well-meaning and earnest -- and maybe some of them are.
But it's the editors who have final say, as well as how it's spun.

Come to think of it, reporters should already know this, which, ergo, further throws their earnestness into doubt.

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Blogger Cail Corishev June 20, 2017 10:27 PM  

But it's so hip and casual and friendly, with words like "long-ass" and that jokey introduction. Surely this one is different.

But seriously, note the implied threat beneath the between-us-pals jocularity: "The piece has already been ordered and I will be writing a long profile of you, so you'd better play along and try to befriend me so I'll make you look better than otherwise."

Blogger Matthew June 20, 2017 10:29 PM  

That is the best spam I have ever seen.

Anonymous Just another commenter June 20, 2017 10:40 PM  

@40 - true.

Maybe reply with an "automated" looking reply that says "all emails from this domain are placed in the SPAM folder. If you are a real person who knows me, call me at the number I already gave you and say I give you permission to record and broadcast my call into the message machine, then leave your message."

Blogger tublecane June 20, 2017 10:58 PM  

@2-"It's uncanny how they sound almost exactly the same, every time"

It's uncanny so many people give in to their requests when they use lines like "I have not come to hurry you." If my own mother told me she didn't come to bury me I'd get the distinct feeling that she wants to bury me.

"Hello, friend. Care for a glass of lemonade? I didn't poison it or anything, I swear."

Anonymous Battlefrog June 20, 2017 10:59 PM  

Nothing says credibility like linking to an apolitical Buzzfeed article about a minor rock star.

Blogger tublecane June 20, 2017 10:59 PM  

@42-Dangit, I meant "bury," not "hurry."

Blogger J Van Stry June 20, 2017 11:16 PM  

Even if the writer does give him a 'fair' shake, his editor will NOT.
And it's the editor who writes the final version, NOT the reporter.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 21, 2017 4:02 AM  

How can one doubt the professionalism of someone who uses words like "long-ass"?

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 21, 2017 6:54 AM  

He should accept and setup time. But at the last moment, something comes up and needs to reschedule and he will get back with them next week. Next wrek teschedule. Then, something comes up and needs rescheduling. Rinse and repeat.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 21, 2017 6:56 AM  

Until Jack no longer amused or PM gives up.

Blogger Mocheirge June 21, 2017 10:00 AM  

Maybe he can offer to do the interview in a helicopter? With good pal Augusto piloting?

Anonymous MaskettaMan June 21, 2017 11:57 AM  

"Since that's you, I figured you'd be a good place to start." "long-ass profile"

Who would even want to be in the same room as this tool? I can smell his cappuccino breath from here.

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 22, 2017 11:40 AM  

Hey, I'm super great at covering evil right-wing villains very fairly, because four years ago, I wrote about Modest Mouse.

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